I'm so glad people have written nice comments because you seriously are talented and this song is beautiful. You're a great writer and you have a lot of courage. I know I'd never be able to show people my songs like this. So, seriously.. Well done and keep it up :)
I would give so much to sing with you together! singing is my passion. I have professional lessons so I have to love music. It is nice to listen to you. But I have to say that you are kinda crazy. I think you already know this :):)
My son in law is in Germany now and will be deployed to Afghanistan in August. God brought me here to your music 2 years ago when the economy was crashing. Your gift is such a comfort. It'll be all ok.is my mantra.
My grandfather died a couple weeks ago, and still I am trying to move on. When I listened to this song, I completely broke down into tears. He was in and out of the hospitol for 2 years, and even then, he did not give up. He stayed strong, and continued to live life. He never quit. But one Monday morning, life quit on him. He was an amazing person. He fought against Castro in Cuba and came here to America to save us all. And he is the reason I have money for college today. RIP Armando Campaneria
I love this song. Do you sell your music anywhere? I would love to play this for my brother's birthday. He passed away this Halloween, he would be turning 23 on December 5.
I subscribed because of this song! What a beautiful song, thank sfor sharing! I have a similar original song I wrote on my channel called "I Cry A Tear" which I srote for a dear friend that passed away. Please feel free to check it out!
Hey JC, Thank you so much for posting this video, one of my band mates from high school passed from an accidental overdose a few weeks back and this song really means a lot to me...lyrics can be heard different by different people, and it just made me think about the fight they must have had with themselves for so long, that none of us noticed enough to help, before it was to late...
Hey JC. I've been a huge fan of your music, and I just wanted to put a comment on this song because a week ago one of my high school teachers passed away in a car accident, the song doesn't exactly fit, but it still makes me remember him, he was a true inspiration to everyone who knew him. RIP Mr.McGowan
@littlejay6 so sad to hear about your loss. especially a teacher...RIP Mr. McGowan, you have taught many who will remember you. And i pray for comfort for his family..Thanks for sharing this with me..
Hey if someone could check out our video and give us some feedback we would really appreciate it. It is our first video and we know it isn't perfect but we would love to know what you think
Realmente increible, creeme tienes un fans ahora en Chile, sudAmerica. Tienes mucho talento no lo pierdas nunca, y no te olvides que ahora tienes un fan en chile, me gusta tu música, y aparte tienes una voz muy completa....
I listened to this for the first time today. A good friend of my family passed early this morning and I was moved by this. Perfect first youtube song-of-the-day.
That was so cool! U have done a lot in 2 years, a remarkable improvement. U join youtube on Jan 07, it took u a whole year to decide upload a video, what was your plan in that moment? ... Today u're #1 most subscribed musician in Germany, 3rd n 5th place in others, from 0 views n 0 subscribers to bunch of views and over 47,000 subscribers, I wonder... What's ur plan JC Van Luyn?, 4 now is nice to enjoy the music n have fun, but how do u want n how do u see yourself, lets say, on Jan 2012? X P
my plan? =) I really never had a specific plan at all..just write songs and see how they do on youtube, but everything seemed to have a plan in itself ever since...hopefully to have my music distributed somehow..maybe that can be my next plan=) I thank Him for all my blessings..none of this would be possible..
The reason I say you probably need a set up is because when you play with a capo it sounds so much better. That is a tell tale sign usually. With a good set up I can make a crappy Squire acoustic compare with ANY GUITAR that isn't set up properly. WORD OF CAUTION!!! DON'T TRY TO ADJUST THE TRUSS ROD (NECK) BY YOUR SELF!!! You could seriously fudge up your guitar. There is way more to a set up than that and special tools to do the job. Truss rod should be a tiny adjustment.
I agree. Speaking of which, how about laurenlikespie? She's one of the best damn female singers I ever saw on youtube, and she isn't even a professional.
that was great. it makes me think of my maw-maw, tomorrow she will have been gone for 10 months and sometimes i still feel like i don't know how to live without her.
I listened to more of your songs, and in my opinion, this is the best, Your voice is so beautiful when you sing this one!!! :) Good luck! And don't give up!!!
00lslamkiller00 that doesnt even make sense you dumb fuck! what has your nose got to do with high notes!?!? god you are soo retarded you probably think that a quarter pounder is a posistion at american football
he had posted this vid a long time ago but after michael jackson died he edited the title and the info or whatever. the song is for the loved ones who we've lost so he wanted to dedicate it to MJ so yeah
That's just crap. He bought off accusers with his money. Quit acting like he's some saint, he touched kids, dozens of different journalists who investigated came away with that conclusion.
Nice song!! RIP to the King of Pop. By the way, check the song I got featuring Michael Jackson called "They Don't Care". Click my username to hear it. Thanks
r.i.p hayley m. 16 and beautiful!
r.i.p maggie c. u were my one and only mom. <3
xCapassisitx 1 month ago
mto BOM
locokALEX 6 months ago
i almost cry ur good man lol
trina11121 9 months ago
That was amazing but I think ur guitar was slightly out of tune xP
Never69shout69always 10 months ago
AMAZING 78 people are jelous of ordinary people
omglovethisvideo 1 year ago
first time i've heard you sing. I almost cried. This reminds me of my brothers so much. Thank you. <3 :')
mrssassyjesse 1 year ago
I'm so glad people have written nice comments because you seriously are talented and this song is beautiful. You're a great writer and you have a lot of courage. I know I'd never be able to show people my songs like this. So, seriously.. Well done and keep it up :)
EmilyCroucher1 1 year ago
hey its just an awasome song i thought about my 3 years old niece she died last yeas in december :-(
singlemommy85 1 year ago
I think you are very talented!
I would give so much to sing with you together! singing is my passion. I have professional lessons so I have to love music. It is nice to listen to you. But I have to say that you are kinda crazy. I think you already know this :):)
justmarriedtomusic 1 year ago
My son in law is in Germany now and will be deployed to Afghanistan in August. God brought me here to your music 2 years ago when the economy was crashing. Your gift is such a comfort. It'll be all ok.is my mantra.
deppdelver 1 year ago
My grandfather died a couple weeks ago, and still I am trying to move on. When I listened to this song, I completely broke down into tears. He was in and out of the hospitol for 2 years, and even then, he did not give up. He stayed strong, and continued to live life. He never quit. But one Monday morning, life quit on him. He was an amazing person. He fought against Castro in Cuba and came here to America to save us all. And he is the reason I have money for college today. RIP Armando Campaneria
4crazychick4 1 year ago
great song buddy.
brightonboarder 1 year ago
I love this song. Do you sell your music anywhere? I would love to play this for my brother's birthday. He passed away this Halloween, he would be turning 23 on December 5.
unachinadoll 1 year ago
la chitarra è scordata
paguro6554 1 year ago
I subscribed because of this song! What a beautiful song, thank sfor sharing! I have a similar original song I wrote on my channel called "I Cry A Tear" which I srote for a dear friend that passed away. Please feel free to check it out!
TheMusicianmark 1 year ago
haha waving at the camera? love this song. :D
Serena97able 1 year ago
I think this is my fav by u!!! Ur music is great!!! I can't wait to hear more from u.. Take care and keep on singing..
Snappylil 1 year ago
Hey JC, Thank you so much for posting this video, one of my band mates from high school passed from an accidental overdose a few weeks back and this song really means a lot to me...lyrics can be heard different by different people, and it just made me think about the fight they must have had with themselves for so long, that none of us noticed enough to help, before it was to late...
VindrDrottningu 1 year ago
Good player but some vocal lessons would help you out also! ;)
CatherineMengue 1 year ago
GAY
aghaanantyab 1 year ago
Den Song den du geschrieben hast ist echt geil Respekt ;D
YamahaPianoCover 1 year ago
Very awesome, dude.
Artsy7890 1 year ago
Hey JC. I've been a huge fan of your music, and I just wanted to put a comment on this song because a week ago one of my high school teachers passed away in a car accident, the song doesn't exactly fit, but it still makes me remember him, he was a true inspiration to everyone who knew him. RIP Mr.McGowan
littlejay6 1 year ago
@littlejay6 so sad to hear about your loss. especially a teacher...RIP Mr. McGowan, you have taught many who will remember you. And i pray for comfort for his family..Thanks for sharing this with me..
jcvanluyn 1 year ago 7
hahaha gracias mucho :)
me encanta tu español lol
youre voice is jst so amazing i have no words for it...i wish yout he best of luck :D
6jazmin6 1 year ago
nice ^~^ hope that u get an album some day
PeterPianoXiong 1 year ago
i saw pretty good coments but i dont like, i think its so simple and repetitive... =/
keep working dude..
mexicorazon 1 year ago
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Fantastic song, check out my compisitions on my channel!
AranBrowning 1 year ago
this is my favorite song out of all your great songs keep making them :)
94zelda94 1 year ago
love this songg
Sleepless1218 1 year ago
wow thts very well written
islanlizz 1 year ago
Wow!! I really really like ur songs. theyre incredibly good! i hope youll be famous some day. Do u write everything by yourself?
Rinee093 1 year ago
dude... simply... amazing.
murdertoys666 1 year ago
hi what is your nationality ?? :D ..i fell inlove with ur voice! ilove it..
angelzoshin 1 year ago
Love it man!!! its very cool..very natural and catchy.
skunksnag 1 year ago
I really love this song....it helps when i'm feeling lonely for my dad :)
Crystal0Farrah 1 year ago
You are very talented and i like your songs! Keep up the good work. hope to hear some new ones soon.
damnshesbadlove 1 year ago
hey jc..remember me....??...wel i uploaded a couple of songs of miy own..please rate and comment
kangkanpunkmonk 1 year ago
its nod bad but it isnt really good neither hahah , i mean come on the lyrics. I'll check your other videos maybe it will change my mind hahah
xSnoweyexp 1 year ago
Hey if someone could check out our video and give us some feedback we would really appreciate it. It is our first video and we know it isn't perfect but we would love to know what you think
SphericalInfants 1 year ago
thanks for doing that.
it is so emotional and wonderful.
TheMissLaughing 1 year ago
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TheMissLaughing 1 year ago
Wow.. U cried.. :O
Well.. I would probably cried too.. This song is so emotional..
Fordloopie 1 year ago
would you mind if I shared this on my website?
AlongTheHorizonLine 1 year ago
I love this song...and continue the good work JC :-)
JOY1178 1 year ago
Good song good voice man! Catchy!
JohnnyGuitarParker 1 year ago
love this song
jhenlyn02 1 year ago
i love your music, your voice and your face :D
i'm fan on chile, nice voice...
good bye, and kisses ♥♥
Francisca A.
Franam18 1 year ago
a little pitchy but i don't care, i think you're cute! haha keep writing :-)
TheDiannefrancisco 1 year ago
the beginning was funny you looked very serious :)
0InspiredSoul0 1 year ago
hello youtubers,
I'd like to get some feedback on a song I just made called "untitled"
watch?v=exOZh1pzz5s
Please rate and comment! ;)
slashoasis156 1 year ago
i love it ots a great song did u really write it urself??
nikki098ndmusic 2 years ago
Realmente increible, creeme tienes un fans ahora en Chile, sudAmerica. Tienes mucho talento no lo pierdas nunca, y no te olvides que ahora tienes un fan en chile, me gusta tu música, y aparte tienes una voz muy completa....
congratulations!, y sigue asi.
Gonzalo Sepúlveda.
Productor General
Maximal Design Chile.
maximalchile 2 years ago
gracias mucho=) too kind of you =)
jcvanluyn 1 year ago
Nice (:
piamascha 2 years ago
Not too bad. Has a nice ring to it. Maybe try to avoid the cliches in your lyrics. A little rework could make this an even greater song.
oli4vd 2 years ago
RIP <3 EJH<3 I love this song.. I love ur music.. :)
shannonrenne 2 years ago
hes cute!!!
daonlyanessa 2 years ago
I listened to this for the first time today. A good friend of my family passed early this morning and I was moved by this. Perfect first youtube song-of-the-day.
Thank you :)
one2bucklemyhat 2 years ago
good job really good jjjoobb
voicemaker18 2 years ago
Incredible isn't good enough to say!
ikonwwhatadonis 2 years ago
aw this brings back memories...lovely to watch again...how time passes..
alexandraxxxxxx 2 years ago
i know..so many memories=) has it really been almost 2 years...hard to believe..so happy that most of us are still on the tube=)
jcvanluyn 2 years ago
am so happy your still here.....your one of the lovliest people here..and you are so talented too..;0)....big smiles ...;0)
alexandraxxxxxx 2 years ago
jcvanluyn- as you can see we don't get on youtube too often. I love your song. I use to write countless songs,
but I cant play well and I can't sing.
So i just stopped ... because I couldn't do anything with them.... keep it goin..
mseegbee 2 years ago
:/ its not tuned correctly :'(
Otherwise a pritty good song ;)
Warioren 2 years ago
i love it!! :)
wrongful07 2 years ago
That was so cool! U have done a lot in 2 years, a remarkable improvement. U join youtube on Jan 07, it took u a whole year to decide upload a video, what was your plan in that moment? ... Today u're #1 most subscribed musician in Germany, 3rd n 5th place in others, from 0 views n 0 subscribers to bunch of views and over 47,000 subscribers, I wonder... What's ur plan JC Van Luyn?, 4 now is nice to enjoy the music n have fun, but how do u want n how do u see yourself, lets say, on Jan 2012? X P
eoublue 2 years ago
... n yeas, I hear Kaise XD
KAISER!!!!!
eoublue 2 years ago
my plan? =) I really never had a specific plan at all..just write songs and see how they do on youtube, but everything seemed to have a plan in itself ever since...hopefully to have my music distributed somehow..maybe that can be my next plan=) I thank Him for all my blessings..none of this would be possible..
jcvanluyn 2 years ago
:] aweeeee..
jamiebabe24 2 years ago
your voice is perfect !!!!!!!!
yijoco 2 years ago
I love your voice.
chi0116 2 years ago
nice.
SoldierJuanDeLaCruz 2 years ago
You are such a precious young man.Lord bless you and keep your heart at peace.
Hugs,
Mary
mamy101 2 years ago
300,000 views on the other vid. but this is still great
onemanband129 2 years ago
dude you kill it! you got over 300,000 views. and you are a great guitar player and singer. keep it up
onemanband129 2 years ago
simply Beautiful
SunShadeBoulevard 2 years ago
The reason I say you probably need a set up is because when you play with a capo it sounds so much better. That is a tell tale sign usually. With a good set up I can make a crappy Squire acoustic compare with ANY GUITAR that isn't set up properly. WORD OF CAUTION!!! DON'T TRY TO ADJUST THE TRUSS ROD (NECK) BY YOUR SELF!!! You could seriously fudge up your guitar. There is way more to a set up than that and special tools to do the job. Truss rod should be a tiny adjustment.
mejmo06 2 years ago
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get ur strings in tune mate... and then learn how to sing in tune... and then come again with a new video...
mariaschi 2 years ago
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wow this sucks so much
C26B49 2 years ago
The voice is simply...Wow.
Amazing...Keep it up, dude....
Killuamaru 2 years ago
amazing :D
yvistarable 2 years ago
Yes we all see your waving xD btw
AWESOME VIDEO :)
aznindoboy 2 years ago
=)...
jcvanluyn 2 years ago
nice song, J is King!!! best regards
JacksonFreak81 2 years ago
omg!
I'm crying - wonderfull voice - wonderfull lyrics.
And a very beautyfull boy ;) ♥
MeersauX3 2 years ago
a great song!i love it♥
blumenkind0rina 2 years ago
great song :):)
sherbert236 2 years ago
great song man sorry to say this but your strings man out of tune a little but it was still good man keep up the good work
Musiclover10fg 2 years ago
ur an amazing singer...u made me cry
spartakicks 2 years ago 6
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u suck cock wipe
jolp132 2 years ago
another reverser sycologist...wow
spartakicks 2 years ago
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if you guys are interested in a bit of change musically and tired of hearing the same sort of songs, check out my channel. Hopefully u will like it.
Nice melody and voice
tikarina02 2 years ago
Love the song and your voice is amazing but it would be alot better if you and a female sang together just my little imput ^-^
CuteCough 2 years ago 2
I agree. Speaking of which, how about laurenlikespie? She's one of the best damn female singers I ever saw on youtube, and she isn't even a professional.
KyranKandosa 2 years ago
excellent.thank you
funkatram 2 years ago
that was great. it makes me think of my maw-maw, tomorrow she will have been gone for 10 months and sometimes i still feel like i don't know how to live without her.
ilene2878 2 years ago
lol every ones noticed his top strings out thats the only let down of this song
oh and he sometimes pulls on the A string making the e sound even more out
but the over all tune a singing is great
purpleblake 2 years ago
Genial
1isita 2 years ago
valeee
SCris90 2 years ago
yeah i agree, E string is out of tune, would be nice if you did it again with the guitar in tune. Very nice song though :)
nojule 2 years ago
i think its supposed to be like that like a bass string maybe?
Halo54345 2 years ago
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wannase myvaigna
RouletteGoddess 2 years ago
i like your voice :)
heyitsmiLi 2 years ago
E is sooooo out of tune lol, great job tho
Xlinoge87 2 years ago 2
amazing vocals :)
annoyingviolin123 2 years ago 2
love the song, but your guitar DOES sound out of tune, just fix that and its perfect!
Great job otherwise!
EnergyStar352 2 years ago
learn to tune. But I like the song, and your voice. But it's pretty sad that you couldn't hear out of tune your guitar was.
JonnyRosser20 2 years ago
r u a pinoy?so cute pinoy...n talented too
malaysiahantu 2 years ago
lol haha your top string is out of tune
purpleblake 2 years ago
If you have nothing nice to say... Don't say anything at all...This guy is really great... Dont be jealous because you don't have talent!
suwala3 2 years ago 6
you're the best!!!pe@ce out!
shanyaish 2 years ago
you're the best!!!peace out!
shanyaish 2 years ago
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FUCK YOU. ur a disgrace to asians everywhere!!!
imightnotloveyou 2 years ago
oO Nice.
ReinoHawate 2 years ago
wow your pretty good
im jelous
3 years having a guitar and im still not that good
well I dont practice much
eviluglyman 2 years ago
ur amazing but mj? lol w/e u can dedicate this to whoever u want
Moonstream360 2 years ago
Yeah...And he wants to dedicate it to Michael.
rockmidget182 2 years ago
awsum... <3
SelenaAutumn101 2 years ago 3
That's quite good, I mean considering you wrote it.
But I don't know why you dedicated it to Michael Jackson.
MrSilkable 2 years ago 3
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fuck michael jackson
pothead303 2 years ago
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fckk u
yesiamrookie 2 years ago
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its simple
he wanted to fuck michael jackson
buttboy99 2 years ago
Michael Jackson would have loved this,
this is really good,
:)
yesiamrookie 2 years ago 4
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fuck michael jackson
pothead303 2 years ago
nice but i dont care about you you are not michael lol ^^
simoa47 2 years ago
this is so sweet thank you
roxleyrocks07 2 years ago
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fuck you
shahzeb40 2 years ago
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WHAT THE FUCK
rolandruulib 2 years ago
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yeayupperz 2 years ago
wohoooo.!!
nawzgirl 2 years ago
amazing
KamranWho 2 years ago
he would be proud...........i love you michael
washupearlgirl88 2 years ago
AYA HIRANO
SuzumiyaHaruhi0 2 years ago
Klar, noch ein Trittbrett-Fahrer ! Vor ein paar Wochen kanntest du noch nicht mal seinen Namen. Shame on you!
LillifeePrinzessin 2 years ago
u didn even knw mj!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
necesweetcheeks 2 years ago
Who gives a shit? Grow up, anyone who does this for someone is relaly nice and he was alot of peoples idol.
XRedxDanniX 2 years ago
supiiiii
irli1204 2 years ago
Yes, I do believe you are talented. Great song, nice emotional voice. Well done! Keep up the good work.
RIP MJ
lactitsa 2 years ago
great song and voice man.very good job.R.I.P MJ
antwniou21 2 years ago
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cool song i like it alot, check out my new original if you get a chance
DSharpGuitar 2 years ago
Ma quanto è bravo questo ragazzo?!?!?
E per il fatto che è un fan di Mj mi piace ancora di più
krista88able 2 years ago
I listened to more of your songs, and in my opinion, this is the best, Your voice is so beautiful when you sing this one!!! :) Good luck! And don't give up!!!
Oralia33 2 years ago
Guitar little bit outta tune, but nice anyway.
5/5 =)
krtek4life 2 years ago
5 stars (= its a nice song
r.i.p
OfficialSkySuporter 2 years ago
Cool song
TheNotoriousKRP 2 years ago
i honestly couldnt listen to the whole song its too sad. but from what i heard you did a great job. The passion you have can be heard with every word
<3
browneyezhoney 2 years ago
cool tune!! check out "the king is gone" on youtube, it's a tribute song for Michael and his fans, i hope you like it.
TheFrenchers 2 years ago
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jar409 2 years ago
Y, Why dont you stick the guitar in ur ass and maybe u can sing higher notes (michael should have tried that one out instead of operating his nose).
00IslamKiller00 2 years ago
00lslamkiller00 that doesnt even make sense you dumb fuck! what has your nose got to do with high notes!?!? god you are soo retarded you probably think that a quarter pounder is a posistion at american football
markisginger 2 years ago
you stupid dumb ass retarded asshole. MICHAEL JACKSON CHANGED HIS NOSE TO PITCH HIGHER NOSE DUMB ASS. GOOGLE IS UR FRIEND MORON.
WHO IS THE DUMB ASS FUCK NOW? LMAO!
00IslamKiller00 2 years ago
man you re really good but god tune your guitar before you record!!
levraipatou 2 years ago
1st vid...ever..=)
jcvanluyn 2 years ago
you. are. amazing. =)
pinkxsharpiexoxo 2 years ago 2
so nice R.I.P M.J
xJorine 2 years ago 2
Why does it say you posted on feb 2009?!?!
Nice video, R.I.P MJ =(
banangult 2 years ago
Voice is great however the guitar is not tuned, can't you hear it ?
matthew016 2 years ago 3
you are mint you need to get a CD made:)
gymnastmeme 2 years ago 2
Dude you got talent but you should tune your bottom E and learn to play a bit better
MYchem3926 2 years ago 2
nice song but why does it say you posted on febuary 21 2008, and michael jackson died in 2009? lol
pradip1995hero 2 years ago 4
he had posted this vid a long time ago but after michael jackson died he edited the title and the info or whatever. the song is for the loved ones who we've lost so he wanted to dedicate it to MJ so yeah
vanessarubio21 2 years ago 2
Thanks for this song. I like it very much. I think it's important for all MJ's fans.
IzoldaUletova 2 years ago 2
R.I.P.
brina9393 2 years ago
Pedophile supporter.
goldstarforrobotboy 2 years ago
only God can judge him.....and by the way the kid that accused MJ of abusing him just came out and said it was all a lie, so stop judging others.
singer4rlife 2 years ago
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That's just crap. He bought off accusers with his money. Quit acting like he's some saint, he touched kids, dozens of different journalists who investigated came away with that conclusion.
laceethefileclerk 2 years ago
Wow.. you really need to grow up... shut the hell up.. Only God can judge him..not you.. damn have sum sympathy for him and his family..
Freedom071992 2 years ago
No, I have sympathy for the little kids he diddled.
laceethefileclerk 2 years ago
you really need to grow up..Only GOD can judge him.. not you.. so shut the hell up
Freedom071992 2 years ago 2
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Nice song!! RIP to the King of Pop. By the way, check the song I got featuring Michael Jackson called "They Don't Care". Click my username to hear it. Thanks
Legendz Never Die
1958-Forever
LPthegreatMC 2 years ago
Yeah. Always!
LoveMusicBad 2 years ago
Beautiful!!
dor192 2 years ago
u have a lovely voice :D amazin job! -<3Hellbaby
94spirits 2 years ago
man you're awesome!!!
kmirock777 2 years ago
This is really good job!
fatlindi18 2 years ago
you're ahmazing!!!!
r.i.p michael (L)
lilkalsters3 2 years ago
Good job :)
fallen639 2 years ago
you sent this vid in 2008
and mj died in 2009
goku9955 2 years ago
BEAUTIFUL
4elizabeth4 2 years ago 3
Love this and all your other work, but it really does seem as if you've edited the title of this just to garner potential viewers and subscribers.
Toadsanime 2 years ago