I listened to a lot different anthems now and the best once are the european, the scottish (scotland the brave) and the soviet anthem. Dont know what they singing but it sounds very epic.
Hopefullly Russia is able to reach the pinnalcle of what the Soviet once was, for help us God these Americans and British are out of controll at the momement.
@tehatemachine But it is, why are Britain and its by-products so close and hate free towards each other. They are basically side by side in the Middleast. Why does Russia risk a possible confrontation with NATO by entering Kosovo ahead of NATO to take post around a Serbian town in order to protect them from KLA in the absence of a retreating Serbian Army. Its all about Race and protecting your own based on History, Cultural ties and common interests.
@Whyunounderstand No it has nothing to do with race. Prosperity is in diversity. Everyone benefits from different cultural viewpoints. Shame on you, Thought you'd know better.
@tehatemachine So i talk fact and you talk ideology. Your ideology is a failed idea, the EU is based on diversity but look at their prosperity there is none.
@Whyunounderstand "So i talk fact and you talk ideologySo i talk fact and you talk ideology" Oh really well lets see what you just wrote. "our ideology is a failed idea, the EU is based on diversity but look at their prosperity there is none." Europe isn't a country dipshit. I'm talking about nationwide. NOT continent wide. And no duh that piece of land is diverse, ITS EUROPE.
@Whyunounderstand you said one big truth , americans believe they are so powerfull , but they forget that they're not the biggest country , trust me , Russia will return from it's ashes like a red phoenix and with the hammer and the scithe , the glorious Svocialism will triumph over the capitalism , GOD BLESS THE HOLY MOTHER RUSSIA
@Whyunounderstand beside of that during the cold war russia developed the better spy plane of all times , the SR-71 it is the best spy plane ever created , the americans will pay a lot for they stupidity.
@oldoptimus = 19 year fagot who loves lots of penises in his mouth , sucks Fidel castros cock , not the best dick sucker in the universe , and definetly not the best in your sight , but quite an amusing mad-ass peter puffer.
@tehatemachine = ASSHOLE WHO SUCKS NIXON'S DICK , go fuck Nixon , go fuck yourself and since you're at it , GO FUCK YOUR MOTHER AND YOUR FATHER FOR BRINGING YOU TO LIFE , ASSHOLE.
@tehatemachine religion is the drug for the poeples , you and the religion can take a train to go fuck yourself and remain there for the rest of your pathetic days , american asshole.
@tehatemachine and as an extra , your democracy is pure bullshit , if you truly were a country who practices democracy you wouldn't have raged a war against the middle east for oil , against Cuba and against many others , the true thing is that United States of America is only a mask to cover the fact that you people , make war a business , you're nothing but cannon fodder , go kill yourself under a train , is the only thing you're worth of.
@oldoptimus Russia is a fortress, the Americans spend all their money on bombing Arabs while Russia is modernizing its military and growing its economy. No country on this planet can ever successfully invade Russia its military its where its supposed to be at home on not in some desert
Soviet Union never 'collapsed', it was instead dismantled by those who wished it to be destroyed. However, unfortunately CCCP was never true socialism, but only thugs who now claim themselves to be democrats...that's why me and millions of comrades still dream of a truly socialist society. I believe that the next fifty years will be very 'interesting' as the financial system reveals itself to be purely tyrannical...
misplaced sarcasm based on ignorance..cant be good
lots and lots of people actually DO want yugoslavia back, the war you speak of does not reflect the wishes of the people of yugoslavia at all, just those of war mongering NATO who took their chance when yugoslavia was weakened by Tito's death
Imagine the USSR came back and The Arab States United together like the old times of the Caliph and both of them became an Ally...No one can withstand them....EVEN AMERICA.....I know that it did lots of crimes against humanity but on the other hand they made a great nation
I am very proud that since this year we Slovaks consider propagation of the communism and denying crimes of the communism to be a crime. The last stand of the communists a Communist party of the Slovakia is now under investigation by the Slovak police and perhaps will be banned.
Not to sound rude but every country ha murdered someone when rising to power, It's a simple part of history. just most countries were already set up but the USSR was a newly born country. Lenin never wanted to take over the world, just get rid of the Tsar.
I admit yes there murdered people but that was the Stalinist not communist
@PKBChaz Lenin certainly did not want to take over the World, but he was not willing to settle for the removal of the Tsar, who had already been removed from power by the Provisional government of Russia prior to the October Revolution. Lenin was a cruel, vile man, who dreamed of dominion in his heart, and had no interest in the plight of the workers. He broke with Marxist orthodoxy in his utter disdain for the democratic process, and wasn't even really a Communist. He was just a dick.
Lenin was loved and an ideal man. Bt most of his history has changed much like most leaders who were enemies of the west. I've talked with Russian historians who say Lenin did no such thing. I've even talked with a everyday girl around my age who is learning the samething who doesn't even like communism. The west has told us lies, but then again this is coming from someone who is against communist so even what I say wont change you. sad...
Against Communism? Are you listening to me? I just explained that Lenin broke with orthodox Marxism. As a Socialist, I despise Lenin because he was a traitor to the workers, and to Marxist theory. Lenin's presentation of the Party as a vanguard of the Revolution is entirely contrary the democratic nature of Marxism, in that its purpose is to drag the people by the nose to paradise. As far as tyranny goes, I'd sooner have an honest King than a fucking snake masquerading as a proletarian.
yes I did read what you wrote, but me personaly I bekieve Lenin was a good person. I'm not a Leninist, nor am I a Marxist. but like I said before I have been told different. From what I heared Lenin was one of those kinda of people who did everything for the people. His best intetions was for the people, but then again history changes over time. o please excuse my last comment, and I am sorry if I made you feel annoyed.
Aye, and I've heard people say the Holocaust didn't really happen. This clearly isn't true, though. History can't change, merely our perception of it. Revisionist historians can take a different spin on what happened, but cannot actually change history. There are facts regarding Lenin's activities prior to, during, and after the Revolution that seem to indicate an utter disregard for not only the Marxism he claimed to endorse, but also for human life. And there's no need to apologize.
It's a cheesy line but History is writian by the victor, but I will admit Lenin wsn't all for the people, but still I give him my respects for atleast giving the people a voice. But if you dont mind me saying, every leader becomes corrupt at some point. I usally look at the person before he is corrupt. I mean Marxism isn't the best either, Marxist killed a few during the revolution. but like I said before it was a revolution.
i recomend you to read the book by Robert Gellately, Lenin Stalin and hitler, the age od social catastrophe. that book reveals what was the REAL lenin...
and by the way, AWESOME hymn, that i think we can agree lol
i recommend you to never ever read the book by Robert gellately, Lenin Stalin and hitler, because it doesnt reveal anything about lenin at all and just discredits the Revolutionary Founding Father of russia even more than american anti revolutionary ''historians'' already have. Im sure your intentions are good PellgaBR but your sources clearly aren't.
well then, could you please recommend me anything to read about? i recently finished the book and actually liked it. i would be glad to hear the other side too.
and yes, i dont have a lot of sources about that topic
ah well, im a marxist-leninist myself (with titoist sympathies) and the book you read..well it compares lenin, stalin and hitler
Lenin being a revolutionary founding father of russia, misunderstood by many and, like stalin, constantly getting demonised by americans (including Mr. Robert Gellately, actually canadian but still), creating soviet russia
Stalin being perhaps the most demonised person in history, with many russians still holding stalin protests etc
doing whatever he could to protect lenin's soviet union
there were repressions. they were terrible, but the numbers in the book you mentioned are absolutely ridiculous and an insult to all professional historians
They come from US speculation and not the Soviet Archives
they picture the Gulags as if they were concentration camps
while being labour camps
sure, you were treated terribly and inhumane, and you lost a LOT of weight, but many survived these camps
under the circumstances, they were great leaders, and ''all the poor russians stalin repressed'' love him to this day.. im not trying to just defend Stalin here, but giving you a more nuanced look at things. This book presents a complex situation in simple terms, abusing estimated numbers etc.
what impresed me wasn´t the demoniziation of stalin, but the lenin one...
acording to some historians and Gelately himself, stalins just "folowed the footsteps of lenin" and wasn´t even close as bad as lenin was. Well i´l try to look some other books now that i know the statistics are insane.. thanks for your advices.
but one thing i dont agree, at least here in Latin America,everyone that study at a University knows that Soviet Union won WWII and the credit IS given to the leadership of Stalin, despite bein demonized by his actions as you sad.
ah..well i can assure you Stalin is seen as a dictator as bad as hitler (influenced by litarature like the book we talked about) and admitting he did anything beneficial is frowned upon to say the least..
haha, well i guess it is a very controversial subject, and im surprised by your reaction
i expected an aggressive comment war over stalin like all the others..
yes, he is seen as one of ther worse dicators ever, but here at least the credit is given to him for wining the war, stopped Operation Barbarossa, Stalingrad etc...
i totaly agree with you, is a HUGE controversial topic, and i dont have a lot of knowledge about the Soviet Union period.
in my opinion, i´ll never consider a dicator a hero... just my point of view.
i´ll read more about him and lenin, and try to have a solid opinion,but for now i just cant..
you see, even hitler did beneficial acts to the people, i mean... he took a country ruind by inflation and war and in 6 years turned into a superpower... im not trying to defend him or stalin.. i´m sure he WAS a demon, crazy and a shitty racist lider..
i consider myself neither a communist or a right-wing. i just dont belive that communist works in a large scale.... and here in Brazil the left-wing party did EXACTLY the same as the center right did when took the power....
@PellgaBR if i may give an opinion , according to many former soldiers from my family who fought in the WW2 in the russian side , they said that only Stalin could defeat the germans in the russian front.
@0elmir0 No. Trotsky considered himself a Leninist, at least after he joined with the Bolsheviks, and given the flawed interpretation of Marxism that Lenin had come up with, I really can't call myself a Trotskyite. I'm really more of a Luxemburgian.
The Soviet Union and China were ''Communist'' and ''Socialist'' in name only. Just like North Korea is a ''People's Republic'' in name only. Both these tyrannical systems hiding under the name ''Socialism'', unfortunately, managed to discredit 'real' socialism in the eyes of many.
I recommend you all read 'The Revolution Betrayed' by Leon Trotsky.
@Incognitoification1 Exactly. Sadly they've forever tainted those of us who choose to label ourselves with either of those terms, in their true meanings.
Another reason why the USSR failed and was not socialist. In order for socialism to exist. high-level capitalism and heavy industry have to exist. Russia was a backwater dump and was primarily a feudalistic country, with a feudal mode of production. It wasn't ready to establish socialism by itself. Lenin and the other marxists, hoped that highly capitalised countrys e.g france, would have a communist revolution. However, all other communist uprisings in Europe were crushed.
In order for Socialism to exist, it has to be international. The soviet union attempted socialism in one country, a socialist state surrounded by Capitalist markets will not survive long. Marx, Lenin and Trotsky knew that states attempting to form ''Socialism in one country'' would degenerate or revert back into capitalism.
@maximumsatann Even in the Soviet union they had capitalism, But the capital. Was all controlled by the state. Equality does not work without freedom. It is understandable what the Russians wanted, But they where mislead by assholes on top.
Musically this has got to be the most epic national anthem, political discussion is irrelevant. Also, socialism is great, communism is a different matter.
@romantikify Why? So you could play with a Soviet Army action figure while our country is being even more fucked up by nationalist/skinhead counter-revolutionists?
@dangar45 I have tottaly NO IDEA WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ? I said that I want a new mighty CCCP and yes I want that with all my heart (and I am sure that Russian people need any kind of new CCCP as soon as possible). And I said that: SOCIALISM ROCKSSS - ALSO a TRUE (I am from Serbia and I lived in 80-es in Serbia and in that time we had Socilasm and it was a GREAT TIME if you compare with all we have had and still have with Capitalism and so-called Democracy!!!!!). SO, WHERE IS THE PROBLEM ?
@dangar45 Well, if you put story on that way, let me just tell you that 90% of people in Socialist Yugoslavia (and, in the same time in Socialist Serbia as a part of Socialist Yugoslavia) HAVE HAD THAT PROFIT, as you named that, which means that our Socialist revolution 1941-1945 was something really good.
@romantikify On which facts is this statement based on? None knows, maybe if there haven't been any revolution at all, Serbia would be even better today without Yugoslavia at all. Revolution is never morally against any government, because you are uprising against the government you OWE to because they are your protectors. Also, if in Serbia there was a worker class which consisted of 10%, and a revolt which gave profit only to the higher classes, would you support it if you were worker class?
@romantikify Socialism is works good in a small comunity (like your neighbor hood). But it does NOT work on a large scale. There is simply to much to keep track of,. But Capitalism does, Since the government doesn't have to worry about keeping track of all the goods and rationing. The individuals who run their businesses do.
@tehatemachine From a logical point of view, anything that can work on a small scale can work on a larger scale as well (this is also proved in maths). In order for Socialism to work on a larger scale, let's say in a large country, you have to "stretch" it: the govermnent, the people and the capitalists (yes, they can exist in socialism, too) have to create rules for each other, consider the economy, education, produce, etc. Oh, and capitalism never works.
@EVILW0LFgirl I don't want socialism though. I want a land that protects it's people by LAW, Not by majority rule. I want a system which allows others to freely trade and gives them the choice with what they want to do with their lives. I want FREEDOM not fairness, Because fairness means that someone decides who gets what by taking it away from someone else. I'll keep social things on a small scale with friends and family.
@EVILW0LFgirl Capitalism isn't a specific term. There are different forms. The best and MOST proven by far is competitive capitalism with limited government intervention. it's what made the U.S economy boom in the 50's and 60's. It's what made japan so successful during that time to. Only one person had to work in the family and could provide for everyone else while being able to have such things as a car, and a nice comfortable home to live in.
@EVILW0LFgirl The only time i've seen socialism work, But not full socialism. Was during WWII. Why? Because everyone was trying to achieve the same objective. To win the war.
Another example fictionally would be if aliens tried to invade or fight with us. That would likely cause the nations of the world to work together for a common cause. But with no threat it just falls apart and we go back to killing each other. That's what caused the cold war. We are all bored.
@romantikify But i also have to correct my first statement a bit by saying that capitalism isn't a specific category, Along with socialism there are many different forms.
"I lived in 80-es in Serbia and in that time we had Socilasm and it was a GREAT TIME" Oh come on! get those rose covered glasses off. I thought the 90's where good to but in reality we only remember the good parts, But easily skip the bad parts.
@romantikify I agree with you romantikify. Just ignore dangar45, he's a troll who pretends to talk in wise sayings when in reality he's full of hot air. Believe your eyes, your heart and your gut - that's the motto I live by and it's helped me to ignore lies from anti-socialist oddballs ^ - ^
@EVILW0LFgirl Thank you very very much NICEandBRAVEWOLFgirl !!! PS: Sure, I am ignoring, what else I can do with such people, they really live in "their lives" and truly do not have any conection with real world.
God the situation between the US imperialism and Russian anti-imperialism even in the post cold war era makes me wish the USSR won the cold war. They outpaced the US but caved in to them and collapsed under it's own depression.
@marcuspotter4564 Russian anti-imperialism? Are you high? By god. Presumably you are actually an American and have no clue as to Russia's actions in, say, Chechnya or Georgia, or its cybernetic attacks on, say, Latvia, or its refusal to return land, to, say, Japan or Finland, or its constant negative involvement in the affairs of eastern European countries, or its threats to cut gas supplies, or its supplying of, say, Syria, with arms, which are now being used to kill children.
@lionellondon What about Franco vs the Basques in Spain? That conflict continued till very recently. And I'm a Brit BTW. And thanks for pointing those out. :) Putin was actually misleading when he claimed the Libya conflict was a "medieval crusade" because he was an imperialistic anyway. Though the USSR wasn't that bad however I know about the satellite states.
@marcuspotter4564 All that proves is something I agree with: Franco was bad too. By the way, the Basque fighters are not socialists per se, and fight against Spain, not against the Right. Well, it's the same thing: a westerner with no concept of the evils and harshness of the regime.
@marcuspotter4564 yes, that evil, evil Franco who saved Spain from communism (which would take much more lives than him, as usual) and from participating in WWII.
@lionellondon Coming from the person whose country spearheaded the colonial age of Europe. Chechnya was its independence . They wanted more so they ate the dick. Why should we return the lands which we rightfully conquered? Heck all former Soviet Union lands should be ours by right.
@VaragianPrince Yes, we spearheaded the colonial age. That's a separate talking point. We bought many good things to many countries, and some bad things as well. Point is, we gave up most of the empire. You seem to think you are living in the 1800s. The countries are not 'yours by right' and I suspect you wouldn't be able to conquer them even if you wanted to. Russia is not what it was.
To me, people who still call themselves communist after the Soviet Union and Pol Pot are more or less equivalent to those who call themselves Fascist after the Nazis and Franco's Spain.
@EVILW0LFgirl What I said was entirely articulate. Please learn English to an understandable degree. You were never like me. You were never as intelligent or successful as I am, else you wouldn't be a communist. But I was like you, when I was about 12. Then I realised the futility and evilness of communism and the USSR.
@de1337ing Not at all...China has 1.3 billion people, ergo it has a bit more money than the UK. Not 20 times more, like it should do, but a bit. It's GDP is about 1/6th the size and it represses its people. Overall, I'd rather live in the UK than in a third world country like the violent empire of China, which occupies Tibet and parts of India, gives no freedom to its citizens, is exploiting Africa just like you think capitalists did/do, and is poor in regards to individual wealth. Ignoramus.
i just watched a Doc about aged women n men who lived during the soviet union state n i see how Intellectuals they are despite they are just retired workers n farms comapred to what capitalist in ameirca n what did give us a lot of ignorant n armed bastard who doesn't know they were robbed by rich bankers n big comapnies yeah the soviet propaganda was telling the truth but we didn't know that back in the days
@iippo06 and I think this is wrong. Firs of all the workers in URSS didn't own the products they made. Moreover I ask why, if I'm intelligent and I own a factory, I have to earn like a common worker? Where is the meritocracy?
By the way I suppose avery nation should include in its policies a bit of socialsm. And I think some fundamental industries should be owned by the government.
@ItlianPudding Your mixing Socialism with Communism Russia was Socialist. In Communism there are no wages anymore there is no money anymore and basic things such as housing food and clotches would be free along with what ever you may need. You would work in a job you want to because there would not be the need to work horrible jobs anymore since there would be no wages anymore. And no the idea isnt to work all day and night just few hours a day to contribute to the Commune.
@iippo06 Well, this kind of society have many "bugs" in my opinion. For example, who do the shitting jobs? Of course, without wage, anyone can choose his dream job, but WHO clean the streets? WHO help old men? Come on, no one want to do this jobs. And, moreover, why a garbage collector should be considered like a professor, or an officer, or a great administrator? That's unfair.
Finally how can you hope that a society where you haven't incentives to work could be productive?!
@ItlianPudding People can learn to be motivated by working for the common good. If we help each other, we both gain. But seeing as the world economy will soon collapse because of greed were pretty far away from that dream for now. Why would things change when it comes to different jobs professor would be more respected then a garbage collector because not everyone has the mind to be a professor. But all workers would be respected as equal human beings and not discriminated based on there job.
@ItlianPudding People can learn to be motivated by working for the common good. If we help each other, we both gain. But seeing as the world economy will soon collapse because of greed were pretty far away from that dream for now. Why would things change when it comes to different jobs professor would be more respected then a garbage collector because not everyone has the mind to be a professor. But all workers would be respected as equal human beings and not discriminated based on there job.
@iippo06 that's a good thing... to be not discriminated basing on our job. But I think this is, at least, a kind of utopia. How can the garbage collector think that his job is good as the job of the professor? The first have to collect garbage, the second have to talk in front of his students. I still see a "little" difference between these two jobs.
@ItlianPudding There is a difference of course but there wouldnt be this idea of supremecy over someone since there wouldnt be wages to begin with. They would both contribute to the Commune and in this way they would unite as one under the Red banner and they wouldnt feel so much different at the end. Yes this definently seems like a utopia since no country has reached Communism only Socialism but the future looks bright for this idea as were heading to a great depression.
@iippo06 Whether socialism has existed is highly debatable. Socialism certainly didn't exist within the USSR or China. Those systems are best described as State capitalist totalitarian states, as a bunch of bureaucrats owned the means of production, denied democracy, used secret police, etc.
Socialism requires democratic workers control over all industries + the state. The closest thing to workers state, was the spanish civil war, workers ran a city and all industry by themselves(no goverment)
@ItlianPudding Not saying that you should love communism or embrace it or anything, but it's obvious that you don't really understand what the elimination of private property means (as far as socio-political economy is concerned).
One of the reasons North America rose to the top following the colonial era, rather than the resource-rich lands of South America, was the wide distribution of private property to British settlers (most of whom were debt slaves risking it all to find a better life). Wide spread ownership of private property translates to a large middle class, rather than the polarization of wealth we see today. All that said, the Hymn of the Soviet Union remains my second favorite anthem!
@EVILW0LFgirl don't say that you should hate communism, but if you love it, you definitely don't know what the abolition of the private proprerty means. As romans usually said: "In medium stat virtus"... I think it's right. The best way is not extreme capitalism, but not even communism. A middle way, something that mix socialism and capitalism, something like fascism. But this is just another kind of utopia. So it's usless to talk about it.
@ItlianPudding A middle way doesn't exist. FOR GOD'S SAKE, philosophers and economists in the freaking 19th century have already proved that there's either capitalism or an advanced form thereof, or socialism or an advanced form thereof! Please, go read SOMETHING from SOME economist or sociologist and then return to this conversation.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm russian women
shazzaman1 21 hours ago
Love from Norway, russia is awesome!
Didierfan1 1 day ago
@Didierfan1 in soviet union there is not only Russia..
niniko1994 14 hours ago
I listened to a lot different anthems now and the best once are the european, the scottish (scotland the brave) and the soviet anthem. Dont know what they singing but it sounds very epic.
jonesjeremiah 1 week ago 2
Why do the worst countries have the best anthems?
CptQuestionMark 1 week ago
proud to be an ex comunist citizen :)
tomytza123 1 week ago
GOD BLESS THE HOLY MOTHER RUSSIA.
oldoptimus 1 week ago
Pshh, the official national anthem of the dovahkiin is BETTER!!!
tehatemachine 1 week ago
Hopefullly Russia is able to reach the pinnalcle of what the Soviet once was, for help us God these Americans and British are out of controll at the momement.
Whyunounderstand 1 week ago
@Whyunounderstand The enemy is not nationality. The enemy is large government.
tehatemachine 1 week ago
@tehatemachine But it is, why are Britain and its by-products so close and hate free towards each other. They are basically side by side in the Middleast. Why does Russia risk a possible confrontation with NATO by entering Kosovo ahead of NATO to take post around a Serbian town in order to protect them from KLA in the absence of a retreating Serbian Army. Its all about Race and protecting your own based on History, Cultural ties and common interests.
Whyunounderstand 1 week ago
@Whyunounderstand No it has nothing to do with race. Prosperity is in diversity. Everyone benefits from different cultural viewpoints. Shame on you, Thought you'd know better.
tehatemachine 1 week ago
@tehatemachine So i talk fact and you talk ideology. Your ideology is a failed idea, the EU is based on diversity but look at their prosperity there is none.
Whyunounderstand 1 week ago
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@Whyunounderstand "So i talk fact and you talk ideologySo i talk fact and you talk ideology" Oh really well lets see what you just wrote. "our ideology is a failed idea, the EU is based on diversity but look at their prosperity there is none." Europe isn't a country dipshit. I'm talking about nationwide. NOT continent wide. And no duh that piece of land is diverse, ITS EUROPE.
tehatemachine 1 week ago
@Whyunounderstand you said one big truth , americans believe they are so powerfull , but they forget that they're not the biggest country , trust me , Russia will return from it's ashes like a red phoenix and with the hammer and the scithe , the glorious Svocialism will triumph over the capitalism , GOD BLESS THE HOLY MOTHER RUSSIA
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Whyunounderstand 1 week ago
@Whyunounderstand beside of that during the cold war russia developed the better spy plane of all times , the SR-71 it is the best spy plane ever created , the americans will pay a lot for they stupidity.
oldoptimus 1 week ago
@oldoptimus = 19 year fagot who loves lots of penises in his mouth , sucks Fidel castros cock , not the best dick sucker in the universe , and definetly not the best in your sight , but quite an amusing mad-ass peter puffer.
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@tehatemachine = ASSHOLE WHO SUCKS NIXON'S DICK , go fuck Nixon , go fuck yourself and since you're at it , GO FUCK YOUR MOTHER AND YOUR FATHER FOR BRINGING YOU TO LIFE , ASSHOLE.
oldoptimus 1 week ago
@oldoptimus HAHAHHA i made you so mad that you instantly started making assertions!!!
Typical communist fucking heathen. YOU MAKE ME WANT TO VOMIT! how couldn't you believe in the Virgin Mary you communist sick fuck.
tehatemachine 1 week ago
@tehatemachine religion is the drug for the poeples , you and the religion can take a train to go fuck yourself and remain there for the rest of your pathetic days , american asshole.
oldoptimus 6 days ago
@tehatemachine and as an extra , your democracy is pure bullshit , if you truly were a country who practices democracy you wouldn't have raged a war against the middle east for oil , against Cuba and against many others , the true thing is that United States of America is only a mask to cover the fact that you people , make war a business , you're nothing but cannon fodder , go kill yourself under a train , is the only thing you're worth of.
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@oldoptimus Russia is a fortress, the Americans spend all their money on bombing Arabs while Russia is modernizing its military and growing its economy. No country on this planet can ever successfully invade Russia its military its where its supposed to be at home on not in some desert
Whyunounderstand 1 week ago
Hello Russians, I am Mexican, but I live in US, I admire your culture and your people.
ablancarte71 1 week ago
Nieder mit dem Kapitalismus! Lang leben die ARBEITER!
SuperSharp20 2 weeks ago
Proletarier aller Länder vereinigt Euch!
TsarofWumpica 2 weeks ago
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Killing communists is NOT a crime - it's an environmental disease control!
Ractorful 3 weeks ago 2
Such a beautiful anthem regardless of what it used to represent.
Bol1v1an0 3 weeks ago
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Soviet Union never 'collapsed', it was instead dismantled by those who wished it to be destroyed. However, unfortunately CCCP was never true socialism, but only thugs who now claim themselves to be democrats...that's why me and millions of comrades still dream of a truly socialist society. I believe that the next fifty years will be very 'interesting' as the financial system reveals itself to be purely tyrannical...
ciccogol69 3 weeks ago
Well, the USA certainly lost the Cold War on the musical front...
Evenst3vn 3 weeks ago 32
@Evenst3vn In the sports too
Krasnostav 3 weeks ago
@Evenst3vn GOD DAMIT! WE NEED MORE REINFORCEMENTS IN OUR BAND! GO GO GO!
tehatemachine 1 week ago
EPIC ANTHEM! I'm USA all day but awesome anthem!
BeatlesAnthology 3 weeks ago
buuhh!!
giuseppedisantomonte 3 weeks ago
we want YUGOSLAVIA back
yugoslaviaist 1 month ago 7
@yugoslaviaist not really, otherwise there wasn't a war
lifethelifetoday 1 month ago
@lifethelifetoday
misplaced sarcasm based on ignorance..cant be good
lots and lots of people actually DO want yugoslavia back, the war you speak of does not reflect the wishes of the people of yugoslavia at all, just those of war mongering NATO who took their chance when yugoslavia was weakened by Tito's death
0elmir0 2 weeks ago
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The country closest to achieving real ''socialism'' is Venezuela.
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Incognitoification1 1 month ago
Imagine the USSR came back and The Arab States United together like the old times of the Caliph and both of them became an Ally...No one can withstand them....EVEN AMERICA.....I know that it did lots of crimes against humanity but on the other hand they made a great nation
MrJoseph1966 1 month ago
I am very proud that since this year we Slovaks consider propagation of the communism and denying crimes of the communism to be a crime. The last stand of the communists a Communist party of the Slovakia is now under investigation by the Slovak police and perhaps will be banned.
onelittlesmile1 1 month ago
@onelittlesmile1
and i consider it a crime to discriminate people based on their political views
0elmir0 2 weeks ago
After Stalin era, Soviet is finaly free!!!!
MegaAble1234 1 month ago
Very rousing theme song for a murderous regime. Two thumbs up.
ProletarianRage 1 month ago
@ProletarianRage
Not to sound rude but every country ha murdered someone when rising to power, It's a simple part of history. just most countries were already set up but the USSR was a newly born country. Lenin never wanted to take over the world, just get rid of the Tsar.
I admit yes there murdered people but that was the Stalinist not communist
PKBChaz 1 month ago
@PKBChaz Lenin certainly did not want to take over the World, but he was not willing to settle for the removal of the Tsar, who had already been removed from power by the Provisional government of Russia prior to the October Revolution. Lenin was a cruel, vile man, who dreamed of dominion in his heart, and had no interest in the plight of the workers. He broke with Marxist orthodoxy in his utter disdain for the democratic process, and wasn't even really a Communist. He was just a dick.
ProletarianRage 1 month ago
@ProletarianRage
Lenin was loved and an ideal man. Bt most of his history has changed much like most leaders who were enemies of the west. I've talked with Russian historians who say Lenin did no such thing. I've even talked with a everyday girl around my age who is learning the samething who doesn't even like communism. The west has told us lies, but then again this is coming from someone who is against communist so even what I say wont change you. sad...
PKBChaz 1 month ago
Against Communism? Are you listening to me? I just explained that Lenin broke with orthodox Marxism. As a Socialist, I despise Lenin because he was a traitor to the workers, and to Marxist theory. Lenin's presentation of the Party as a vanguard of the Revolution is entirely contrary the democratic nature of Marxism, in that its purpose is to drag the people by the nose to paradise. As far as tyranny goes, I'd sooner have an honest King than a fucking snake masquerading as a proletarian.
ProletarianRage 1 month ago
@ProletarianRage
yes I did read what you wrote, but me personaly I bekieve Lenin was a good person. I'm not a Leninist, nor am I a Marxist. but like I said before I have been told different. From what I heared Lenin was one of those kinda of people who did everything for the people. His best intetions was for the people, but then again history changes over time. o please excuse my last comment, and I am sorry if I made you feel annoyed.
PKBChaz 1 month ago
Aye, and I've heard people say the Holocaust didn't really happen. This clearly isn't true, though. History can't change, merely our perception of it. Revisionist historians can take a different spin on what happened, but cannot actually change history. There are facts regarding Lenin's activities prior to, during, and after the Revolution that seem to indicate an utter disregard for not only the Marxism he claimed to endorse, but also for human life. And there's no need to apologize.
ProletarianRage 1 month ago
@ProletarianRage
It's a cheesy line but History is writian by the victor, but I will admit Lenin wsn't all for the people, but still I give him my respects for atleast giving the people a voice. But if you dont mind me saying, every leader becomes corrupt at some point. I usally look at the person before he is corrupt. I mean Marxism isn't the best either, Marxist killed a few during the revolution. but like I said before it was a revolution.
PKBChaz 1 month ago
@PKBChaz
well actually lenin wasnt a good person at all.
i recomend you to read the book by Robert Gellately, Lenin Stalin and hitler, the age od social catastrophe. that book reveals what was the REAL lenin...
and by the way, AWESOME hymn, that i think we can agree lol
PellgaBR 2 weeks ago
@PellgaBR
well, actually lenin WAS a good person.
i recommend you to never ever read the book by Robert gellately, Lenin Stalin and hitler, because it doesnt reveal anything about lenin at all and just discredits the Revolutionary Founding Father of russia even more than american anti revolutionary ''historians'' already have. Im sure your intentions are good PellgaBR but your sources clearly aren't.
0elmir0 2 weeks ago
@0elmir0
well then, could you please recommend me anything to read about? i recently finished the book and actually liked it. i would be glad to hear the other side too.
and yes, i dont have a lot of sources about that topic
cheers
PellgaBR 2 weeks ago
@PellgaBR
ah well, im a marxist-leninist myself (with titoist sympathies) and the book you read..well it compares lenin, stalin and hitler
Lenin being a revolutionary founding father of russia, misunderstood by many and, like stalin, constantly getting demonised by americans (including Mr. Robert Gellately, actually canadian but still), creating soviet russia
Stalin being perhaps the most demonised person in history, with many russians still holding stalin protests etc
0elmir0 2 weeks ago
@PellgaBR
doing whatever he could to protect lenin's soviet union
there were repressions. they were terrible, but the numbers in the book you mentioned are absolutely ridiculous and an insult to all professional historians
They come from US speculation and not the Soviet Archives
they picture the Gulags as if they were concentration camps
while being labour camps
sure, you were treated terribly and inhumane, and you lost a LOT of weight, but many survived these camps
0elmir0 2 weeks ago
@0elmir0
also, he had a terrible war on his hands losing millions of citizens and soldiers to the Nazi's this book compares him with..its just not right
but under Stalin they did win the war, sacrificing the most troops, fighting the most battles, and getting NO appreciation for it in the west today
0elmir0 2 weeks ago
@0elmir0
under the circumstances, they were great leaders, and ''all the poor russians stalin repressed'' love him to this day.. im not trying to just defend Stalin here, but giving you a more nuanced look at things. This book presents a complex situation in simple terms, abusing estimated numbers etc.
0elmir0 2 weeks ago
@0elmir0
what impresed me wasn´t the demoniziation of stalin, but the lenin one...
acording to some historians and Gelately himself, stalins just "folowed the footsteps of lenin" and wasn´t even close as bad as lenin was. Well i´l try to look some other books now that i know the statistics are insane.. thanks for your advices.
PellgaBR 2 weeks ago
@PellgaBR
but one thing i dont agree, at least here in Latin America,everyone that study at a University knows that Soviet Union won WWII and the credit IS given to the leadership of Stalin, despite bein demonized by his actions as you sad.
PellgaBR 2 weeks ago
@PellgaBR
ah..well i can assure you Stalin is seen as a dictator as bad as hitler (influenced by litarature like the book we talked about) and admitting he did anything beneficial is frowned upon to say the least..
haha, well i guess it is a very controversial subject, and im surprised by your reaction
i expected an aggressive comment war over stalin like all the others..
personally i see him as an antifascist hero
0elmir0 2 weeks ago
@0elmir0
yes, he is seen as one of ther worse dicators ever, but here at least the credit is given to him for wining the war, stopped Operation Barbarossa, Stalingrad etc...
i totaly agree with you, is a HUGE controversial topic, and i dont have a lot of knowledge about the Soviet Union period.
in my opinion, i´ll never consider a dicator a hero... just my point of view.
i´ll read more about him and lenin, and try to have a solid opinion,but for now i just cant..
PellgaBR 2 weeks ago
@PellgaBR
you see, even hitler did beneficial acts to the people, i mean... he took a country ruind by inflation and war and in 6 years turned into a superpower... im not trying to defend him or stalin.. i´m sure he WAS a demon, crazy and a shitty racist lider..
i consider myself neither a communist or a right-wing. i just dont belive that communist works in a large scale.... and here in Brazil the left-wing party did EXACTLY the same as the center right did when took the power....
PellgaBR 2 weeks ago
@PellgaBR if i may give an opinion , according to many former soldiers from my family who fought in the WW2 in the russian side , they said that only Stalin could defeat the germans in the russian front.
oldoptimus 1 week ago
@PellgaBR
I am aware Lenin wasn't the best
but I mean he did do some good things but the bad out way the good XD
Anyway, yes this Hymn kicks ass :3
PKBChaz 2 weeks ago
@ProletarianRage
are you a trotskyist perhaps?
0elmir0 2 weeks ago
@0elmir0 No. Trotsky considered himself a Leninist, at least after he joined with the Bolsheviks, and given the flawed interpretation of Marxism that Lenin had come up with, I really can't call myself a Trotskyite. I'm really more of a Luxemburgian.
ProletarianRage 2 weeks ago
cod mwf
VullDog42 1 month ago
The Soviet Union and China were ''Communist'' and ''Socialist'' in name only. Just like North Korea is a ''People's Republic'' in name only. Both these tyrannical systems hiding under the name ''Socialism'', unfortunately, managed to discredit 'real' socialism in the eyes of many.
I recommend you all read 'The Revolution Betrayed' by Leon Trotsky.
Incognitoification1 1 month ago 15
@Incognitoification1 Exactly. Sadly they've forever tainted those of us who choose to label ourselves with either of those terms, in their true meanings.
craigdavid00 1 month ago
@Incognitoification1
you're completely right...
same as the USA or EU are democratic XD
im ashamed to live in this capitalist, Fascist western society! fuck it ^^
btw love that hymn <3 best/most epic/heroic anthem in the world!!!
greetings from austria
oliverpocherfan 1 month ago
@oliverpocherfan Thanks, these are my words too! USA and EU just democratic in their names!
SchwarzeSonneXII 1 month ago
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Another reason why the USSR failed and was not socialist. In order for socialism to exist. high-level capitalism and heavy industry have to exist. Russia was a backwater dump and was primarily a feudalistic country, with a feudal mode of production. It wasn't ready to establish socialism by itself. Lenin and the other marxists, hoped that highly capitalised countrys e.g france, would have a communist revolution. However, all other communist uprisings in Europe were crushed.
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Incognitoification1 1 month ago
In order for Socialism to exist, it has to be international. The soviet union attempted socialism in one country, a socialist state surrounded by Capitalist markets will not survive long. Marx, Lenin and Trotsky knew that states attempting to form ''Socialism in one country'' would degenerate or revert back into capitalism.
Incognitoification1 1 month ago
SOVIET UNION ISN'T DIED FUCK THE USA!!!
MartinMetalCore777 1 month ago
@MartinMetalCore777 dickhead
82ksniper 1 week ago
Shut up. I don't want to see politcis in evrry soviet union related video!
Megatravian 1 month ago
the NEW soviet union is coming.
TORONTOisallmine 1 month ago 22
@TORONTOisallmine indeed it is :)
EVILW0LFgirl 1 month ago in playlist SONGS SONGS SONGS
The National Anthem if OBAMA is re elected : )
paratrooper629 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
I love this love from a serbian brother ;) FUCK USA
UltraGamer457 1 month ago
@UltraGamer457 in soviet russia. USA fucks YOU!!!
tehatemachine 1 month ago
@tehatemachine USA fucks burgers nothing more u fat jewish cocksucking prick
UltraGamer457 1 month ago
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@UltraGamer457 "USA fucks burgers nothing more u fat jewish cocksucking prick" <--- Example of socialism being FORCE.
tehatemachine 1 month ago
ivan drago
ZedBazinga 1 month ago
Gospodi pomilui to all Sowjets
What a country
(Smyslow - Tal - Spassky - Karpov - Seneev - Borsov - Ljachov - Rjumin - Turisheva - Korbut - Jaschin - Kulagin - Tretjak - Charlamov - and so many others)
Heizkosten 1 month ago
Socialism is hell on earth but this is one hell of a song
maximumsatann 1 month ago
@maximumsatann Even in the Soviet union they had capitalism, But the capital. Was all controlled by the state. Equality does not work without freedom. It is understandable what the Russians wanted, But they where mislead by assholes on top.
tehatemachine 1 month ago
Musically this has got to be the most epic national anthem, political discussion is irrelevant. Also, socialism is great, communism is a different matter.
BleaK1211 2 months ago
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LightM555 2 months ago
SOCIALISM ROCKSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!
romantikify 2 months ago
@romantikify Why? So you could play with a Soviet Army action figure while our country is being even more fucked up by nationalist/skinhead counter-revolutionists?
dangar45 2 months ago
@dangar45 I have tottaly NO IDEA WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ? I said that I want a new mighty CCCP and yes I want that with all my heart (and I am sure that Russian people need any kind of new CCCP as soon as possible). And I said that: SOCIALISM ROCKSSS - ALSO a TRUE (I am from Serbia and I lived in 80-es in Serbia and in that time we had Socilasm and it was a GREAT TIME if you compare with all we have had and still have with Capitalism and so-called Democracy!!!!!). SO, WHERE IS THE PROBLEM ?
romantikify 2 months ago
@romantikify In revolution there is only 2 kind of people - people who profit on them and people who lose. Your just lucky that you got a profit
dangar45 2 months ago
@dangar45 Well, if you put story on that way, let me just tell you that 90% of people in Socialist Yugoslavia (and, in the same time in Socialist Serbia as a part of Socialist Yugoslavia) HAVE HAD THAT PROFIT, as you named that, which means that our Socialist revolution 1941-1945 was something really good.
romantikify 2 months ago
@romantikify On which facts is this statement based on? None knows, maybe if there haven't been any revolution at all, Serbia would be even better today without Yugoslavia at all. Revolution is never morally against any government, because you are uprising against the government you OWE to because they are your protectors. Also, if in Serbia there was a worker class which consisted of 10%, and a revolt which gave profit only to the higher classes, would you support it if you were worker class?
dangar45 2 months ago
@romantikify Socialism is works good in a small comunity (like your neighbor hood). But it does NOT work on a large scale. There is simply to much to keep track of,. But Capitalism does, Since the government doesn't have to worry about keeping track of all the goods and rationing. The individuals who run their businesses do.
tehatemachine 1 month ago
@tehatemachine From a logical point of view, anything that can work on a small scale can work on a larger scale as well (this is also proved in maths). In order for Socialism to work on a larger scale, let's say in a large country, you have to "stretch" it: the govermnent, the people and the capitalists (yes, they can exist in socialism, too) have to create rules for each other, consider the economy, education, produce, etc. Oh, and capitalism never works.
EVILW0LFgirl 1 month ago in playlist SONGS SONGS SONGS
@EVILW0LFgirl I don't want socialism though. I want a land that protects it's people by LAW, Not by majority rule. I want a system which allows others to freely trade and gives them the choice with what they want to do with their lives. I want FREEDOM not fairness, Because fairness means that someone decides who gets what by taking it away from someone else. I'll keep social things on a small scale with friends and family.
tehatemachine 1 month ago
@EVILW0LFgirl Capitalism isn't a specific term. There are different forms. The best and MOST proven by far is competitive capitalism with limited government intervention. it's what made the U.S economy boom in the 50's and 60's. It's what made japan so successful during that time to. Only one person had to work in the family and could provide for everyone else while being able to have such things as a car, and a nice comfortable home to live in.
tehatemachine 1 month ago
@EVILW0LFgirl The only time i've seen socialism work, But not full socialism. Was during WWII. Why? Because everyone was trying to achieve the same objective. To win the war.
Another example fictionally would be if aliens tried to invade or fight with us. That would likely cause the nations of the world to work together for a common cause. But with no threat it just falls apart and we go back to killing each other. That's what caused the cold war. We are all bored.
tehatemachine 1 month ago
@romantikify But i also have to correct my first statement a bit by saying that capitalism isn't a specific category, Along with socialism there are many different forms.
"I lived in 80-es in Serbia and in that time we had Socilasm and it was a GREAT TIME" Oh come on! get those rose covered glasses off. I thought the 90's where good to but in reality we only remember the good parts, But easily skip the bad parts.
tehatemachine 1 month ago
@romantikify I agree with you romantikify. Just ignore dangar45, he's a troll who pretends to talk in wise sayings when in reality he's full of hot air. Believe your eyes, your heart and your gut - that's the motto I live by and it's helped me to ignore lies from anti-socialist oddballs ^ - ^
EVILW0LFgirl 1 month ago
@EVILW0LFgirl Thank you very very much NICEandBRAVEWOLFgirl !!! PS: Sure, I am ignoring, what else I can do with such people, they really live in "their lives" and truly do not have any conection with real world.
romantikify 1 month ago
I WANT NEW CCCP !!!!!!
romantikify 2 months ago
I wish the star spangled banner had this glory-inspiring overtone to it
ellipsis003 2 months ago
I have to hand it to the communists, this is so much more inspiring then the Star Spangled Banner.
Ronin8509 2 months ago
Soviet Union not a pretty place for sure . . .not much better yetz.
Aruji09 2 months ago
Переходы между слайдами оставляют желать лучшего. :(
RichardRussian 2 months ago
This tune makes me want to smash capitialism and kill nazis!
densaner77 2 months ago 23
@densaner77 sieg heil. and stalin made 30million teamkills so GG
PeikkoKuningas95 1 month ago
@PeikkoKuningas95. ☭Take this right devationist to the Lubyanka!☭
densaner77 1 month ago
@densaner77 take your poor commy shit and put it in your ass where it belongs :DD
PeikkoKuningas95 1 month ago
@PeikkoKuningas95. Quite the wit, aren't you?! XD
densaner77 1 month ago
@densaner77 the fuck is wit? :DD
PeikkoKuningas95 1 month ago
@PeikkoKuningas95. Fuckwit? Yes. That's you that is.
densaner77 1 month ago
@densaner77 atleast im not a drunken soviet :DD ouch!?!?!
PeikkoKuningas95 1 month ago
@PeikkoKuningas95. ☭Koskenkorva!☭
densaner77 1 month ago
@densaner77 seems propaganda has worked..
keineuterkuh 1 month ago
@keineuterkuh. Пролетарии всех стран, соединяйтесь!
densaner77 1 month ago
@densaner77 i prefer kill nazis
whelljack 1 month ago
such a beautiful anthem!
bmacAK47 2 months ago
Arhg, why this guy had to try all of these shitty transition effects
polvoazul 2 months ago
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red0gay0pride 2 months ago
@red0gay0pride Wow you're an idiot.
lionellondon 2 months ago
In capitalist America, banks rob you
kokofisher 2 months ago 13
@kokofisher xD ahahahahaaaa true!! TRUE!! xD
duvel60 2 months ago
@kokofisher in soviet russia banks don't exist
PeikkoKuningas95 1 month ago
God the situation between the US imperialism and Russian anti-imperialism even in the post cold war era makes me wish the USSR won the cold war. They outpaced the US but caved in to them and collapsed under it's own depression.
marcuspotter4564 3 months ago
@marcuspotter4564 Russian anti-imperialism? Are you high? By god. Presumably you are actually an American and have no clue as to Russia's actions in, say, Chechnya or Georgia, or its cybernetic attacks on, say, Latvia, or its refusal to return land, to, say, Japan or Finland, or its constant negative involvement in the affairs of eastern European countries, or its threats to cut gas supplies, or its supplying of, say, Syria, with arms, which are now being used to kill children.
lionellondon 2 months ago
@lionellondon What about Franco vs the Basques in Spain? That conflict continued till very recently. And I'm a Brit BTW. And thanks for pointing those out. :) Putin was actually misleading when he claimed the Libya conflict was a "medieval crusade" because he was an imperialistic anyway. Though the USSR wasn't that bad however I know about the satellite states.
marcuspotter4564 2 months ago
@marcuspotter4564 All that proves is something I agree with: Franco was bad too. By the way, the Basque fighters are not socialists per se, and fight against Spain, not against the Right. Well, it's the same thing: a westerner with no concept of the evils and harshness of the regime.
lionellondon 2 months ago
@marcuspotter4564 yes, that evil, evil Franco who saved Spain from communism (which would take much more lives than him, as usual) and from participating in WWII.
AndreDarkAngel 2 months ago in playlist Ulubione użytkownika AndreDarkAngel
@lionellondon Coming from the person whose country spearheaded the colonial age of Europe. Chechnya was its independence . They wanted more so they ate the dick. Why should we return the lands which we rightfully conquered? Heck all former Soviet Union lands should be ours by right.
VaragianPrince 2 months ago
@VaragianPrince Yes, we spearheaded the colonial age. That's a separate talking point. We bought many good things to many countries, and some bad things as well. Point is, we gave up most of the empire. You seem to think you are living in the 1800s. The countries are not 'yours by right' and I suspect you wouldn't be able to conquer them even if you wanted to. Russia is not what it was.
lionellondon 2 months ago
@lionellondon Whatever keeps you warm and night dude....
VaragianPrince 2 months ago
KATYN........
sarmar67 3 months ago 2
@sarmar67 Charków, Miednoje, Smoleńsk ........
manik19996 2 months ago
I love Russia and the Russian people.
caguy562 3 months ago
To me, people who still call themselves communist after the Soviet Union and Pol Pot are more or less equivalent to those who call themselves Fascist after the Nazis and Franco's Spain.
lionellondon 3 months ago
@lionellondon Yeah, well who cares about you, anonymous internet person-guy-dude-fella.
EVILW0LFgirl 3 months ago in playlist SONGS SONGS SONGS
@EVILW0LFgirl That's the communist spirit. Crush all dissent.
You've clearly not been brought up in a soviet country or China, or Cambodia.
lionellondon 3 months ago
@lionellondon Wow, you sure are easily crushable. And inarticulate.
I used to be like you once, but then I got an arrow in the knee.
EVILW0LFgirl 1 month ago
@EVILW0LFgirl What I said was entirely articulate. Please learn English to an understandable degree. You were never like me. You were never as intelligent or successful as I am, else you wouldn't be a communist. But I was like you, when I was about 12. Then I realised the futility and evilness of communism and the USSR.
lionellondon 1 month ago
@lionellondon What about China? Doing a little better than a second rate european country like england.
de1337ing 1 month ago
@de1337ing Not at all...China has 1.3 billion people, ergo it has a bit more money than the UK. Not 20 times more, like it should do, but a bit. It's GDP is about 1/6th the size and it represses its people. Overall, I'd rather live in the UK than in a third world country like the violent empire of China, which occupies Tibet and parts of India, gives no freedom to its citizens, is exploiting Africa just like you think capitalists did/do, and is poor in regards to individual wealth. Ignoramus.
lionellondon 1 month ago
i just watched a Doc about aged women n men who lived during the soviet union state n i see how Intellectuals they are despite they are just retired workers n farms comapred to what capitalist in ameirca n what did give us a lot of ignorant n armed bastard who doesn't know they were robbed by rich bankers n big comapnies yeah the soviet propaganda was telling the truth but we didn't know that back in the days
yaarky 3 months ago
good song, shit country
britflik 3 months ago
siembra y difunde socialismo.
nintforce 3 months ago
We still call you BROTHERS here in Bulgaria!
DeStRoYeR7575 3 months ago
Like the song, hate the idea! Sieg Heil! \o
ItlianPudding 3 months ago
@ItlianPudding Why do you hate the working class?
iippo06 3 months ago
@iippo06 I don't hate the working class, I hate just the idea of communism. No private property is a nonsense!
ItlianPudding 3 months ago
@ItlianPudding Communism isnt against private property only private means of production which would be owned by the workers.
iippo06 3 months ago
@iippo06 and I think this is wrong. Firs of all the workers in URSS didn't own the products they made. Moreover I ask why, if I'm intelligent and I own a factory, I have to earn like a common worker? Where is the meritocracy?
By the way I suppose avery nation should include in its policies a bit of socialsm. And I think some fundamental industries should be owned by the government.
ItlianPudding 3 months ago
@ItlianPudding Your mixing Socialism with Communism Russia was Socialist. In Communism there are no wages anymore there is no money anymore and basic things such as housing food and clotches would be free along with what ever you may need. You would work in a job you want to because there would not be the need to work horrible jobs anymore since there would be no wages anymore. And no the idea isnt to work all day and night just few hours a day to contribute to the Commune.
iippo06 3 months ago
@iippo06 Well, this kind of society have many "bugs" in my opinion. For example, who do the shitting jobs? Of course, without wage, anyone can choose his dream job, but WHO clean the streets? WHO help old men? Come on, no one want to do this jobs. And, moreover, why a garbage collector should be considered like a professor, or an officer, or a great administrator? That's unfair.
Finally how can you hope that a society where you haven't incentives to work could be productive?!
ItlianPudding 3 months ago
@ItlianPudding People can learn to be motivated by working for the common good. If we help each other, we both gain. But seeing as the world economy will soon collapse because of greed were pretty far away from that dream for now. Why would things change when it comes to different jobs professor would be more respected then a garbage collector because not everyone has the mind to be a professor. But all workers would be respected as equal human beings and not discriminated based on there job.
iippo06 3 months ago
@ItlianPudding People can learn to be motivated by working for the common good. If we help each other, we both gain. But seeing as the world economy will soon collapse because of greed were pretty far away from that dream for now. Why would things change when it comes to different jobs professor would be more respected then a garbage collector because not everyone has the mind to be a professor. But all workers would be respected as equal human beings and not discriminated based on there job.
iippo06 3 months ago
@iippo06 that's a good thing... to be not discriminated basing on our job. But I think this is, at least, a kind of utopia. How can the garbage collector think that his job is good as the job of the professor? The first have to collect garbage, the second have to talk in front of his students. I still see a "little" difference between these two jobs.
ItlianPudding 3 months ago
@ItlianPudding There is a difference of course but there wouldnt be this idea of supremecy over someone since there wouldnt be wages to begin with. They would both contribute to the Commune and in this way they would unite as one under the Red banner and they wouldnt feel so much different at the end. Yes this definently seems like a utopia since no country has reached Communism only Socialism but the future looks bright for this idea as were heading to a great depression.
iippo06 3 months ago 14
@iippo06 the world saw many depressions, even the last one will pass.. I just hope for an evolution of capitalism.. a more stable one.
ItlianPudding 3 months ago
@iippo06 Whether socialism has existed is highly debatable. Socialism certainly didn't exist within the USSR or China. Those systems are best described as State capitalist totalitarian states, as a bunch of bureaucrats owned the means of production, denied democracy, used secret police, etc.
Socialism requires democratic workers control over all industries + the state. The closest thing to workers state, was the spanish civil war, workers ran a city and all industry by themselves(no goverment)
Incognitoification1 1 month ago
@iippo06 I absolutely agree with this point and the many other points you bring up.
I'm glad to see somebody knows the difference between Socialism and Communism :) You make economy students everywhere very happy :D
EVILW0LFgirl 3 months ago in playlist SONGS SONGS SONGS
@EVILW0LFgirl I didnt even go to high school and i still know the differences but this is pretty much my passion in life politics and economics :)
iippo06 3 months ago
@ItlianPudding Not saying that you should love communism or embrace it or anything, but it's obvious that you don't really understand what the elimination of private property means (as far as socio-political economy is concerned).
EVILW0LFgirl 3 months ago in playlist SONGS SONGS SONGS
@EVILW0LFgirl
One of the reasons North America rose to the top following the colonial era, rather than the resource-rich lands of South America, was the wide distribution of private property to British settlers (most of whom were debt slaves risking it all to find a better life). Wide spread ownership of private property translates to a large middle class, rather than the polarization of wealth we see today. All that said, the Hymn of the Soviet Union remains my second favorite anthem!
yoakamae 3 months ago 2
@EVILW0LFgirl don't say that you should hate communism, but if you love it, you definitely don't know what the abolition of the private proprerty means. As romans usually said: "In medium stat virtus"... I think it's right. The best way is not extreme capitalism, but not even communism. A middle way, something that mix socialism and capitalism, something like fascism. But this is just another kind of utopia. So it's usless to talk about it.
ItlianPudding 3 months ago
@ItlianPudding A middle way doesn't exist. FOR GOD'S SAKE, philosophers and economists in the freaking 19th century have already proved that there's either capitalism or an advanced form thereof, or socialism or an advanced form thereof! Please, go read SOMETHING from SOME economist or sociologist and then return to this conversation.
EVILW0LFgirl 1 month ago