ospreygooonu, go to SPINE, JMPT, PubMed, etc. They all back up chiropractics claims. I was going to suggest you go to chiropractic school...Nahh. Chiropractic!!
@chiropractic47 Tell the whole truth... JMPT, SPINE, and, PubMed support chiroquactic claims to treat local musculoskeletal pains with manipulations for PERIPHERAL NERVES, MUSCLES, and BONES. Not all the other bullshit you quacks are taught about manipulations curing autism, diabetes, colon cancer, etc.
@AthleticsJunkie Who are you? Judge athleticsJunkie? Your dried up dog shit..just blowing away in the wind. Study chiropractic or get out of the way. Chiropractic Now!
I suggest that anyone interested, Google the Guardian UK for the story entitled, Furious backlash from Simon Singh libel case puts chiropractors on ropes; One in four chiropractors in Britain are under investigation as a result of campaign by Singh supporters, by Martin Robbins.
Guardian, online: Further criticism has been focused on the BCA's presentation of supporting data, in particular its claim that a "plethora" of evidence backs the effectiveness of chiropractic in treating various childhood illnesses. Last year, facing demands that the BCA engage in scientific debate over its position, the association released its "plethora" to the public. Cont on #2.
@ospreylookout medical quackery has no evidence of effectiveness nor scientific basis for many of it's most common treatment procedures you hypocritical jackass. go flush yourself.
#2 Guardian, online: The statement, supported by just 29 citations, was ripped apart by bloggers within 24 hours of publication, before being subjected to a further shredding in the British Medical Journal. It emerged that 10 of the papers cited had nothing to do with chiropractic treatment, and several weren't even studies. The remainder consisted of a small collection of poor-quality trials.
caba...baba, I had three MD's, one DPM, two RN's in my chiropractic class. We asked them the same question and they chose chiropractic for its "truth". The former allopaths were tired of administering drugs to suppress and manage disease till the person eventual death by management and toxicicity. They wanted to get to the root cause and allow the body miraculous healing powers to rise. Get adjusted...chiropractic!!!
Unfortunately not all MD's are that smart. Some foolish doctors get into "chiroquack schools or colleges" looking "the truth" (whatever that means). Thanks to the "evil drugs" and modern medicine, millions of people have been cured of thousands of diseases. A simple touching of the back and neck does not solve anything at all.
caba-babbling, enrollment of MD's in chiro. schools is ever increasing. I say; let these "...foolish doctors..." join our ranks. Drugs are very useful and necessary in acute emrgency situations. I want the best ER MD's to help me in the event of a health crisis. The over utilization of drugs outside the ER is what is killing or maiming so many. How would things change if people were encouraged to care for themselves properly rather run themselves down till crisis? Do you agree with this?
Ad hominem arguments is the best you have? Come on, chiropractic47 you can do better than that. I know that because you have studied this "alternative medicine" approach you are very hostile to modern medicine and real doctors. But think about it...Why do chiroquacks do not study in well-recognized medical schools (Harvard, UCLA, MIT, Yale, Oxford, Michigan, etc)?. Why if I go to a good hospital I will never find a "chiropractic department"?
caba-baba, LOL! "Why medical journals don't take into account chiropractic as a real dicipline" The answer is very simple: Chiropractic is not medicine, In other words chiropractic is not medical. Chiropractic is a seperate holistic health care dicipline unto its self. caba-baba, you asked an important question with a very simple answer and indictment of Organized Medicine and Big Pharma. If medicine and pharma can't bag or bottle something and sell it as a medication...then get rid of it,
uuuyyy Big Pharma, the evil monsters! . LOL. Is the best you have? We live in a capitalist world you dumb, what can you expect from them? Give drugs for free?. And now, as you said in your last post, Chiroquackery is NOT part of modern medicine, but a "holistic" (yeaah holistic like reflexology and acupuncture) alternative for ignorant people. And please, don't call you a doctor. That title is reserved to real Doctors.
caba-baba, your post is barely legible and when we put it into our animation computer...you sound the same when a "real doctor" gave you too many "Woozy Woozy" meds.
My dear chiroquack, you don't need a chiropractic...you need a psychologist. Please stop spreading lies in youtube videos about the infamous "subluxation theory" and your silly "holistic magic therapies". We are not in medieval times!
cabba-babba, your warped beyond a subluxation. You are to report to the nearest disassembly station for your eventuall dismantaling and scrap heap destination.
caba-babba, judging from your posts...you had no arguments, except those you have with yourself. Recieve your adjustments but stay on your psych. meds....
...And sorry, I will never go to a chiro, and give my money to a quack. I'd rather prefer a massage or something less expensive (because you know, at the end, chiro is just a relaxing massage in the neck and back). Some told me that reflexology is as "good" as chiropractic. LOL
cabba-babble, Excellent!! then you'll come to my office for "a relaxing massage"? And if "reflexology is a good as chiropractic" then with the publics already overwhelming fondness of chiropractic...you should have no problem recieving a comfortable and relaxing reflexology session! I'm so happy for you cabba-babble! Enjoy sweety....
Reflexology is the same bullshit as chiropractic. The difference between both is that reflexologists do not use the title "doctor" as chiroquacks. They at least know that they can't cure anything. Is just rubbing some parts of the body with the hands!
chiro: I asked you repeatedly for the evidence to support anything your profession claims in terms of efficacy, and all you could do was send a three page article that is not even searchable through my university library portal using Medline, etc., etc. You sent me one article that you claim was published in 1989. You are pathetic!
i have had chronic back pain for the past 2 yearr and i started seeing a chiropractor 2 months ago and the spinal adjustments have really helped...i would go this way over traditional "medicine" any day
Unlike some of the other comments I've seen on this video.. I thought I would post an actual clinical trial, and not base my comment on personal prejudice..
Research shows Chiropractic is the "Only" care providing "Broad-Based, long term benefit"
In a randomized clinical trial published in the "Spine" research journal, demonstrated that chiropractic manipulation is superior to needle acupuncture and medication. The results of a follow up study were released in the Journal of Manipulative and Physical Therapeutics (JMPT), generating data on patient improvement over one year after care was provided.
Really, when it comes down to it they play the game of "doctors and nurses" with their clients, suggesting meaningless ways to improve their back. It's ridiculous. People who pay for this "service" are seriously misguided as most chiropractors are people who have made career changes and see the "profession" as being one where they may obtain a similar status to say a Doctor, even though real doctors perform an operation without brainwashing their clients.
I was a skeptic of Chiropractic until I did a really crazy thing - I tried it. It is amazing what minor adjustments can do. I used to pop my back maybe fifty times a day. Three mins of office time, and I no longer had the impulse or ability to do this, and other probs were alleviated, too. We know so little about how our bodies work. Skeptics should be more respectful until they have an experiential basis for their comments. If I had it to do all over again, I'd be a chiro.
You are an idiot!! Its quite apparent you are not an educated individual. How can you or anyone not agree that the spine encases the spinal cord and CNS which controls your ENTIRE body! When someone has a subluxation in their spine that means nerves are pinched and therefore information flow from brain to body is impeded. Do some research on bio mechanics of the spine and Neurology before you speak again
Oh look at this, quackopractic47 shows his uneducated ass. Go back to committing fraud upon the helpless and gullible you quack con man. Being a fraud and a con man is about the extent of your pathetic abilities.
My chiropractor says I was getting nerve stress, caused by my wearing eleven-foot platform shoes. My back feels better without them, but now how am I going to look fabulous? You see not all chiropractic questions are so easy.
"I f any of you haters want to know what scientific literature says about chiropractors go to my channel DrJDavid. Before you try to comment be aware that you may need more than two neurons firing at the same time to comprehend the message.I challenge ANY to defy the truth. Bring it on Mr. P.T.M.D. whatever education you think you have. I 'll eat you guys for lunch. Anybody can have an opinion. Treating opinions as facts is ridiculous. Come check it out.....I DARE YOU"
A Chiropractor is a licensed board certified Doctor, just the same as an MD. Only difference is the preferred method for caring for people. The only reason anyone becomes a Doctor is to help people. Doesn't matter what you do as long as the end goal is attained. MD uses pills, and a Chiro corrects spinal missalignments to let the body operate at 100%
Wrong idiot. Quackopractors are not "certified Doctors just the same as an MD." MD's are board certified in science based medicine; quackopractors are not. The reason is because quackopractors believe in magical thinking and superstition; these form the basis of their "practice". It does absolutely matter what type of treatment is chosen; treatments based upon magical thinking and quackery do not work and can be harmful. You strange freaks are really amazing.
Blndrfist It is amazing how much you trust MD's who prescribe countless drugs whose safety are noted in their side effects. Spinal manipulation has been practiced for thousands of years, yet you trust medications and surgeries some of which havent even been around a decade. I truly wish you luck when you have back pain. Good luck with the Vicodin and Muscle relaxers. And when the drugs stop masking the problem, then best of luck on the surgery they will perform on your spine.
Another true believer moron. I see that you've swallowed the kool-aid; congratulations, you join a long line of other deluded creduloids, some of whose stupidity can be found below.
Keep on trusting the MD's and their "science based approach to medicine" Here is a headline I just read. FDA says Prilosec can block benefits of Plavix Heartburn medication cuts in half the effectiveness of blood thinning drug.
In 1995 Dr. Richard Besser of the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated the number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed annually for viral infections to be 20 million; in 2003 Approximately 7.5 million unnecessary medical and surgical procedures are performed annually in the US, while approximately 8.9 million Americans are hospitalized unnecessarily.
I think that the Palmer method better Logan school in the method of adjustment? What do you think of spinal decompression for the C4 area. What about True back ? I just got one . Any info appreciated dfletcher47
I think most chiro's agree with what you say here, there's just a few who are religiously connected to said ideas and those who are making money with such claims that cling on to the outdated notion of manipulating the spines of infants. It's obvious there is no way of measuring any changes radiologically or palpably; it's assumption therapy. There are chiro's I would work w;those who keep track of science
tyler I am not offended, but I practiced as a Chiropractic Physician for 25 years and Children respond the best of all my patients. Only one restriction, you MUST be referred to a Chiropractor with high integrity and trust, which is how my office was run. Yes there are quacks out there who may not know what they are doing, but get referred by a friend or family to a reputable Chiropractor, and Children as well as adults of all ages WILL respond if they have a problem a Chiropractir can help. Doc
Before you speak out about something you are clearly misinformed about please do some research. it is clearly supported by research that children benefit from chiropractic care performed right, not like the guy in the video...he is a joke to the profession.
As medic I am both offend by a layperson trying define a real doctor. Go back to college/high school get into chiropractic school/medical school then you can make a more intelligent statement about chiros.
chiropractic treatment is not good and does not help. this practice is a joke and should not be done.if you have a sore back or something like that, sure a visit may make you feel better for a bit(so do pain pills) but all your doing is masking the problem. do some research and you'll find that through proper stretching and a bit of exercise you can strengthen the muscle around the joint but most importantly you will be bringing blood (full of good) to the area likely stopping the ache and pain
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Y don't U join ChiroTalk discussion list? There R many chiro's perpetuating old mythologies; but many practice 'exactly' as I do. Why? Because they aren't afraid to throw out old ideas. I've done the same w/certain teachings via my colleagues. So much of what you indicate is pure assumption & never shown in 'valid' studies. Throw out the term subluxations adjustments, etc.. & just use your 'skills' to help joints function w/out always using end-range thrusts or activator tools & the sort.
Correction, there are PT's who choose to go off on alternative tangents w/out scientific basis as well, perhaps not as prominent as chiros; however, the PT prof. has been pushing,Evidenced Based Practice. People get all caught up in asymmetries, never taking consideration they make be natural & asymptomatic anomalies. When you see what mobilizations with movements can do SNAGS/NAGS, common sense, no belief system required, just see how fast it helps patients
what is SNAGS/NAGS? Not sure if you've studied much neuro, or know the importance of joint receptor firing, but it has a HUGE affect on the brain! Keep that in mind for your patients. Move the joint = fire the brain. Motion is LIFE!
Just wanted to comment on you saying, "People get all caught up in asymmetries...natural & asymptomatic anomalies.". That's why we do imaging...to confirm findings! If you look at the picture of a spinal cord, the only tract that transmits nociception is the anterolateral system, being anterior and lateral spinothalamic tracts in the anterior horn. Pain is perceived in the brain, not the body. We have mechanisms in our brain that dampen pain. That's why pain isn't an indicator of health.
Firstly, pain or musculoskeltal origin is influenced via movements;you get to the pain generator; you can argue what that pain generator is from, in the end, it doesn't matter, however, studies show that w/certain responses, you will out positive outcomes (i.e., centralization phenomenon).As far as studies go;as you must know, findings on imagining do not nec. correlate w/one's condition;if unfamiliar w/the studies, I can forward you some.Bottom line, make joint do what it's suppose to do.
Not trying to argue, but pain is not influenced by movement. Pain is your brains perception to nociceptive input. I'm sure you've had pts that have been px free after a single tx, but during your evaluation, you found there were still fixations, adhesions, assymetries, etc. So if these are present, then there cannot be proper biomechanical motion...so why is the pt without px? And if you "believe" in "centralization phen", then why are you doubting chiropractic. Thats their bread and butter!
I agree, pain is in your brain, however, movements influence this perception, so movements still mean everything in orthopedics.I've worked w/numerous chiro's, centralization was not there thing until they looked at McKenzie.Studies show poor intertester reliability, even radiologically; also, it's PURE assumption to believe focusing upon assym. will lead to any benefit; especially considering varying bone shapes & normal differences from seg to seg from person to person.
I would agree that helping joints function optimally via various mobs to improve ROM in functional ways may be beneficial to performance,in sports &/or ADL's; it's an assumption to believe association w/decreases incidence of spinal pain in the general population when providg manips on a reg. basis; see Diek & Weinstein Studies, others. Mobs, Not Manip's as end-range thrusts over time is impact-full & rep use has greater likelihood to emulate rep trauma then prevent future problems.
If you apply a procedure & improve pain-free range, great. I don't think u r doing a service, however, if you rely upon Type III inhibitor receptor stimulation via the infamous 'pop' (cavatation, etc..) as a 1st approach. B.Mulligan emphasizes mobsduring movements, so freedom of movement w/out pain perception occurs w/out creating temporary laxity in the jt capsule; manip's cause pain relief in by plac'g jt in non-physiologic state; normal mvmnts, nrml uninterrupted jt movement preferred 1st
you guys are hilarious, haha...blaming the an entire profession on one individual. Ridiculous... I'm a neurologist that recommends chiropractic to all of my patients, because I UNDERSTAND the benefits. It's ALL based on neurology. Not taking anything away from PTs, but they've very limited in they're knowledge. Find a good chiro, then stick with him/her.
This is a hilarious statement; especially considering physical therapists are scientifically based. You need to look up the works for Brian Mulligan and then you will laugh at yourself too. There is NOTHING better and more common sense! If you'd like I've got a 3 inch manual of studies and debates with chiropractors then tell me what you think. Look at the research on intertester reliability, etc.. Only the USA is chiro as known & it has to do w/politics & money
Not quite sure why you think that about chiros... If anything, medicine has got itself caught up in money and politics more than any other health care profession, ie: big pharma. I never said PT's weren't scientifically based, but that they're knowledge is limited. Many only go to school for 4 years. Most chiropractors have a bachelors degree then go on to take 4 years of post grad, with about 30 credit hours per semester. I have nothing against PTs. Can't all we just get along!!!
Well, perhaps I should forward U statement by Texas Chiro Assoc acknowledge the diff. in PT education vsChiro & U can argue w/them. PT's knowledgeonly as limited as the research that exists.they've had the luxury of University labs over the ions&Evidence based is the push; PT no problem w/throwing out outdated notions that as u know many chiro's still can't part w/. It's not a religion w/most of us. Nothing is better for musculosketal involvement than B. Mulligan & others like him
Well, perhaps I should forward you a statement by Texas Chiro Association acknowledge the diff. in PT education versus Chiro and then you can argue with them. PT's knowledge is only as limited as the research that exists. they've had the luxury of University labs for studies over the ions and have no problem with throwing out outdated notions that as you know many chiro's still can't part with.
Keep in mind there's always something we can learn from one another. Most chiropractors I know aren't "religious" about their techniques one bit. I've met bad MDs, bad DCs and bad PTs. All health care providers have the same goal, and that's to get their patients better. That's the bottom line...chiropractors have had great success and are only getting better. I guess it depends on where they're educated too. Some schools are very "straight", whereas others are much much more scientific.
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I did (UCSD School of Med 1993) and now I am a bone cracker so F&*^ You wanna be! Shame on you for even making stupid comment like that. That is why you pump gas into my M3 BMW while taking a second job washing dishes at the sushi restraunt just so you can pay for internet usage while living at your parents house. Get Life Loser.
you sound retarded so its pretty clear that you aren't in fact a chiropractor... so shut the fuck up and stop dreaming up shit that you aren't and don't have.
Come by my office and check out my diggs and super hot office manager and my pimp ride in front of beach front office. I will be glad to give you an address and web-site if your too far away from me. Then you can eat some crow and go back to school and a job like what I have earned through a doctor's/business owner.
I am seeing a PT now, thanks. The PT I'm seeing is a doctor too. He's very well-educated and his explanations of my neck and back was very simple. None of that cracking. I read a lot of articles on chiropractors and even some of the experienced DC believe it's bs. After all my troubles, the DC never told me I needed PT. That bastard told me to come to his practice again for another treatment. No thanks. I feels better not seeing that scam artist again. I get stressed out just thinking about it.
I've wasted so much money on chiropractors without any relief for my neck pain and headaches. Actually, I starting getting back pain after chiropractor treated me.
You will need to see a PT. Infact, it should probably be made compulsory for patients to see a PT after seeing a DC, to fix all the problems caused by them.
Hi I recently was told that i had tropism in the bottom of my back and that one of my vertebrae near my pelvis was twisted at a 90 degree angle out of place.According to my chiropractor i was born with it and it cant be fixed. I was wondering if this would cause any problems in regards to carrying a baby?
I think you are probably barking up the wrong tree... I'd ask an obstetrician/ gynecologist or possibly even an orthopaedic specialist/surgeon. That is, someone with both the appropriate and adequate medical knowledge needed.
Good question. The answer would be a no. Although it may alter certain biomechanics, and lead to possible early degeneration, there is no risk associated with pregnancy.
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ChiropracticOptions 2 months ago
ospreygooonu, go to SPINE, JMPT, PubMed, etc. They all back up chiropractics claims. I was going to suggest you go to chiropractic school...Nahh. Chiropractic!!
chiropractic47 1 year ago
@chiropractic47 Tell the whole truth... JMPT, SPINE, and, PubMed support chiroquactic claims to treat local musculoskeletal pains with manipulations for PERIPHERAL NERVES, MUSCLES, and BONES. Not all the other bullshit you quacks are taught about manipulations curing autism, diabetes, colon cancer, etc.
AthleticsJunkie 1 year ago
@AthleticsJunkie Who are you? Judge athleticsJunkie? Your dried up dog shit..just blowing away in the wind. Study chiropractic or get out of the way. Chiropractic Now!
chiropractic47 1 year ago
I suggest that anyone interested, Google the Guardian UK for the story entitled, Furious backlash from Simon Singh libel case puts chiropractors on ropes; One in four chiropractors in Britain are under investigation as a result of campaign by Singh supporters, by Martin Robbins.
ospreylookout 1 year ago
Guardian, online: Further criticism has been focused on the BCA's presentation of supporting data, in particular its claim that a "plethora" of evidence backs the effectiveness of chiropractic in treating various childhood illnesses. Last year, facing demands that the BCA engage in scientific debate over its position, the association released its "plethora" to the public. Cont on #2.
ospreylookout 1 year ago
@ospreylookout medical quackery has no evidence of effectiveness nor scientific basis for many of it's most common treatment procedures you hypocritical jackass. go flush yourself.
hiodr 1 year ago
#2 Guardian, online: The statement, supported by just 29 citations, was ripped apart by bloggers within 24 hours of publication, before being subjected to a further shredding in the British Medical Journal. It emerged that 10 of the papers cited had nothing to do with chiropractic treatment, and several weren't even studies. The remainder consisted of a small collection of poor-quality trials.
ospreylookout 1 year ago
This man is not a quack...is a SUPEr quack. Don't be fooled by this pseudodoctor. Chiroquack are not real doctor. Ask your MD!
caballeroinex 1 year ago
caba...baba, I had three MD's, one DPM, two RN's in my chiropractic class. We asked them the same question and they chose chiropractic for its "truth". The former allopaths were tired of administering drugs to suppress and manage disease till the person eventual death by management and toxicicity. They wanted to get to the root cause and allow the body miraculous healing powers to rise. Get adjusted...chiropractic!!!
chiropractic47 1 year ago
Unfortunately not all MD's are that smart. Some foolish doctors get into "chiroquack schools or colleges" looking "the truth" (whatever that means). Thanks to the "evil drugs" and modern medicine, millions of people have been cured of thousands of diseases. A simple touching of the back and neck does not solve anything at all.
caballeroinex 1 year ago
caba-babbling, enrollment of MD's in chiro. schools is ever increasing. I say; let these "...foolish doctors..." join our ranks. Drugs are very useful and necessary in acute emrgency situations. I want the best ER MD's to help me in the event of a health crisis. The over utilization of drugs outside the ER is what is killing or maiming so many. How would things change if people were encouraged to care for themselves properly rather run themselves down till crisis? Do you agree with this?
chiropractic47 1 year ago
Ad hominem arguments is the best you have? Come on, chiropractic47 you can do better than that. I know that because you have studied this "alternative medicine" approach you are very hostile to modern medicine and real doctors. But think about it...Why do chiroquacks do not study in well-recognized medical schools (Harvard, UCLA, MIT, Yale, Oxford, Michigan, etc)?. Why if I go to a good hospital I will never find a "chiropractic department"?
caballeroinex 1 year ago
Why medical journals does not take into account chiropractic as a real medical discipline?
caballeroinex 1 year ago
caba-baba, LOL! "Why medical journals don't take into account chiropractic as a real dicipline" The answer is very simple: Chiropractic is not medicine, In other words chiropractic is not medical. Chiropractic is a seperate holistic health care dicipline unto its self. caba-baba, you asked an important question with a very simple answer and indictment of Organized Medicine and Big Pharma. If medicine and pharma can't bag or bottle something and sell it as a medication...then get rid of it,
chiropractic47 1 year ago
uuuyyy Big Pharma, the evil monsters! . LOL. Is the best you have? We live in a capitalist world you dumb, what can you expect from them? Give drugs for free?. And now, as you said in your last post, Chiroquackery is NOT part of modern medicine, but a "holistic" (yeaah holistic like reflexology and acupuncture) alternative for ignorant people. And please, don't call you a doctor. That title is reserved to real Doctors.
caballeroinex 1 year ago
caba-baba, your post is barely legible and when we put it into our animation computer...you sound the same when a "real doctor" gave you too many "Woozy Woozy" meds.
chiropractic47 1 year ago
My dear chiroquack, you don't need a chiropractic...you need a psychologist. Please stop spreading lies in youtube videos about the infamous "subluxation theory" and your silly "holistic magic therapies". We are not in medieval times!
caballeroinex 1 year ago
cabba-babba, your warped beyond a subluxation. You are to report to the nearest disassembly station for your eventuall dismantaling and scrap heap destination.
chiropractic47 1 year ago
Seems like you ran out of arguments. Don't worry, that usually happens when you are trying to defend a quackery like chiropractic.
caballeroinex 1 year ago
caba-babba, judging from your posts...you had no arguments, except those you have with yourself. Recieve your adjustments but stay on your psych. meds....
chiropractic47 1 year ago
...And sorry, I will never go to a chiro, and give my money to a quack. I'd rather prefer a massage or something less expensive (because you know, at the end, chiro is just a relaxing massage in the neck and back). Some told me that reflexology is as "good" as chiropractic. LOL
caballeroinex 1 year ago
cabba-babble, Excellent!! then you'll come to my office for "a relaxing massage"? And if "reflexology is a good as chiropractic" then with the publics already overwhelming fondness of chiropractic...you should have no problem recieving a comfortable and relaxing reflexology session! I'm so happy for you cabba-babble! Enjoy sweety....
chiropractic47 1 year ago
Reflexology is the same bullshit as chiropractic. The difference between both is that reflexologists do not use the title "doctor" as chiroquacks. They at least know that they can't cure anything. Is just rubbing some parts of the body with the hands!
caballeroinex 1 year ago
caba-babble, hmmm, I wonder who allows DC's to use the title "doctor" and "physician" (think, think, think)? I got it! The state and federal govt.!
chiropractic47 1 year ago
chiro: I asked you repeatedly for the evidence to support anything your profession claims in terms of efficacy, and all you could do was send a three page article that is not even searchable through my university library portal using Medline, etc., etc. You sent me one article that you claim was published in 1989. You are pathetic!
ospreylookout 1 year ago
i have had chronic back pain for the past 2 yearr and i started seeing a chiropractor 2 months ago and the spinal adjustments have really helped...i would go this way over traditional "medicine" any day
Gubeana 2 years ago
what a wonderful quick guide to what can cause stress on our nerves! thank you for this!
thewholeruth 2 years ago
Unlike some of the other comments I've seen on this video.. I thought I would post an actual clinical trial, and not base my comment on personal prejudice..
chiroguy2k 2 years ago
Research shows Chiropractic is the "Only" care providing "Broad-Based, long term benefit"
In a randomized clinical trial published in the "Spine" research journal, demonstrated that chiropractic manipulation is superior to needle acupuncture and medication. The results of a follow up study were released in the Journal of Manipulative and Physical Therapeutics (JMPT), generating data on patient improvement over one year after care was provided.
chiroguy2k 2 years ago
Chiropractors work on the spinal chord.
Really, when it comes down to it they play the game of "doctors and nurses" with their clients, suggesting meaningless ways to improve their back. It's ridiculous. People who pay for this "service" are seriously misguided as most chiropractors are people who have made career changes and see the "profession" as being one where they may obtain a similar status to say a Doctor, even though real doctors perform an operation without brainwashing their clients.
phileustace 2 years ago
I was a skeptic of Chiropractic until I did a really crazy thing - I tried it. It is amazing what minor adjustments can do. I used to pop my back maybe fifty times a day. Three mins of office time, and I no longer had the impulse or ability to do this, and other probs were alleviated, too. We know so little about how our bodies work. Skeptics should be more respectful until they have an experiential basis for their comments. If I had it to do all over again, I'd be a chiro.
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InnateIntell 2 years ago
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Scientology and chiropractors .. What a double act.. moe curly and larry were only half the joke you quacks are .
peterm3964 2 years ago
You are an idiot!! Its quite apparent you are not an educated individual. How can you or anyone not agree that the spine encases the spinal cord and CNS which controls your ENTIRE body! When someone has a subluxation in their spine that means nerves are pinched and therefore information flow from brain to body is impeded. Do some research on bio mechanics of the spine and Neurology before you speak again
InnateIntell 2 years ago
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Quack Quack My duck is an expert Just like you .
peterm3964 2 years ago
Geat job doctor.
chiropractic47 2 years ago
"Blindrfist is a troll found at numerous chiropractic videos and discussions.
chiropractic47 2 years ago
Oh look at this, quackopractic47 shows his uneducated ass. Go back to committing fraud upon the helpless and gullible you quack con man. Being a fraud and a con man is about the extent of your pathetic abilities.
Blndrfist 2 years ago
Chiroquactor + expert villiage = comedy
peterm3964 2 years ago
How did dd palmer cure harvey lillard's deafness?
jvelos3 2 years ago
With a spinal adjustment.
9pt9 2 years ago
so win the lottery and u wont need a chiro?
oiyabastard 2 years ago
Exactly, dude!
Open your ears for once and try to be open-minded.
Scenario:
You win the lottery, then you have enough money to have yourself converted into a robot. And we all know that robots don't need chiropractic care.
Okay PAL! is that simple enough for you?
jorgekluney 2 years ago
MILF
P0PTarTNick 2 years ago 8
My chiropractor says I was getting nerve stress, caused by my wearing eleven-foot platform shoes. My back feels better without them, but now how am I going to look fabulous? You see not all chiropractic questions are so easy.
ConradZaar 2 years ago 8
i just pissed my pants
oiyabastard 2 years ago
"Chiropractic physician?" Doesn't that imply he went to medical school?
DCPete27 2 years ago
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"I f any of you haters want to know what scientific literature says about chiropractors go to my channel DrJDavid. Before you try to comment be aware that you may need more than two neurons firing at the same time to comprehend the message.I challenge ANY to defy the truth. Bring it on Mr. P.T.M.D. whatever education you think you have. I 'll eat you guys for lunch. Anybody can have an opinion. Treating opinions as facts is ridiculous. Come check it out.....I DARE YOU"
DrJDavid 2 years ago
A Chiropractor is a licensed board certified Doctor, just the same as an MD. Only difference is the preferred method for caring for people. The only reason anyone becomes a Doctor is to help people. Doesn't matter what you do as long as the end goal is attained. MD uses pills, and a Chiro corrects spinal missalignments to let the body operate at 100%
InnateIntell 2 years ago 2
Wrong idiot. Quackopractors are not "certified Doctors just the same as an MD." MD's are board certified in science based medicine; quackopractors are not. The reason is because quackopractors believe in magical thinking and superstition; these form the basis of their "practice". It does absolutely matter what type of treatment is chosen; treatments based upon magical thinking and quackery do not work and can be harmful. You strange freaks are really amazing.
Blndrfist 2 years ago
Your "Blind" and have your "fist" up your ass. Go a way medical troll.
chiropractic47 2 years ago
You are ignorant
thesymphoniclife 2 years ago
Blndrfist It is amazing how much you trust MD's who prescribe countless drugs whose safety are noted in their side effects. Spinal manipulation has been practiced for thousands of years, yet you trust medications and surgeries some of which havent even been around a decade. I truly wish you luck when you have back pain. Good luck with the Vicodin and Muscle relaxers. And when the drugs stop masking the problem, then best of luck on the surgery they will perform on your spine.
rigga54 2 years ago
Another true believer moron. I see that you've swallowed the kool-aid; congratulations, you join a long line of other deluded creduloids, some of whose stupidity can be found below.
Blndrfist 2 years ago
like I said, Good Luck
rigga54 2 years ago
Keep on trusting the MD's and their "science based approach to medicine" Here is a headline I just read. FDA says Prilosec can block benefits of Plavix Heartburn medication cuts in half the effectiveness of blood thinning drug.
rigga54 2 years ago
Blnd-fisting...the ultimate moron?
chiropractic47 2 years ago
In 1995 Dr. Richard Besser of the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated the number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed annually for viral infections to be 20 million; in 2003 Approximately 7.5 million unnecessary medical and surgical procedures are performed annually in the US, while approximately 8.9 million Americans are hospitalized unnecessarily.
rigga54 2 years ago
rigga54, you let Blndfist have it man!!! I doubt Blndfist's credentials. I heard from a reliable source he's a pharmaceutical rep. CHIROPRACTIC!!!
chiropractic47 2 years ago
I noticed your excellent retort to "Blind-fisting" (Blndrfist). Keep up the great spirit of chiropractic.
chiropractic47 2 years ago
I think that the Palmer method better Logan school in the method of adjustment? What do you think of spinal decompression for the C4 area. What about True back ? I just got one . Any info appreciated dfletcher47
Patriotman54 3 years ago
not meaning to offend anyone BUT children should absolutely not be going to a chiropractor
and them being "doctors" they should know that children who's bodies are still growing DON'T need their bones adjusted it is Ridiculous
DO RESEARCH TALK TO REAL DOCTOR NOT THIS GUY IN THE VIDEO
tylerscottharyett 3 years ago
I think most chiro's agree with what you say here, there's just a few who are religiously connected to said ideas and those who are making money with such claims that cling on to the outdated notion of manipulating the spines of infants. It's obvious there is no way of measuring any changes radiologically or palpably; it's assumption therapy. There are chiro's I would work w;those who keep track of science
ProPTRehab 3 years ago
tyler I am not offended, but I practiced as a Chiropractic Physician for 25 years and Children respond the best of all my patients. Only one restriction, you MUST be referred to a Chiropractor with high integrity and trust, which is how my office was run. Yes there are quacks out there who may not know what they are doing, but get referred by a friend or family to a reputable Chiropractor, and Children as well as adults of all ages WILL respond if they have a problem a Chiropractir can help. Doc
pompom11 3 years ago
Children don't suffer from musculoskeletal pain? You think MDs know the neuromusculoskeletal system well?
Bronstone 3 years ago
Before you speak out about something you are clearly misinformed about please do some research. it is clearly supported by research that children benefit from chiropractic care performed right, not like the guy in the video...he is a joke to the profession.
dwai22 2 years ago
As medic I am both offend by a layperson trying define a real doctor. Go back to college/high school get into chiropractic school/medical school then you can make a more intelligent statement about chiros.
Beetoff 2 years ago
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fuck off faggot
Hoboscouts 2 years ago
Thank you!
InnateIntell 2 years ago
chiropractic treatment is not good and does not help. this practice is a joke and should not be done.if you have a sore back or something like that, sure a visit may make you feel better for a bit(so do pain pills) but all your doing is masking the problem. do some research and you'll find that through proper stretching and a bit of exercise you can strengthen the muscle around the joint but most importantly you will be bringing blood (full of good) to the area likely stopping the ache and pain
tylerscottharyett 3 years ago
1974:AMA Committee on Cutaneous Health&Cosmetics noted:state of health of body may be entirely unrelated to physical&chemical condition of hair Although sev deficiency states of an essential element are often assoc w/low concent of element in hair, there are no data that indicate low concentrations of an element signify low tiss levels nor that high concentrations reflect high tiss stores. Therefore . hair metal levels would rarely help a physician select effective Rx."
ProPTRehab 3 years ago
Most commercial hair analysis laboratories have not validated their analytical techniques by checking them against standard reference materials. The techniques typically used to prepare samples for analysis can introduce errors for many of the elements being determined.
ProPTRehab 3 years ago
Y don't U join ChiroTalk discussion list? There R many chiro's perpetuating old mythologies; but many practice 'exactly' as I do. Why? Because they aren't afraid to throw out old ideas. I've done the same w/certain teachings via my colleagues. So much of what you indicate is pure assumption & never shown in 'valid' studies. Throw out the term subluxations adjustments, etc.. & just use your 'skills' to help joints function w/out always using end-range thrusts or activator tools & the sort.
ProPTRehab 3 years ago
Correction, there are PT's who choose to go off on alternative tangents w/out scientific basis as well, perhaps not as prominent as chiros; however, the PT prof. has been pushing,Evidenced Based Practice. People get all caught up in asymmetries, never taking consideration they make be natural & asymptomatic anomalies. When you see what mobilizations with movements can do SNAGS/NAGS, common sense, no belief system required, just see how fast it helps patients
ProPTRehab 3 years ago
what is SNAGS/NAGS? Not sure if you've studied much neuro, or know the importance of joint receptor firing, but it has a HUGE affect on the brain! Keep that in mind for your patients. Move the joint = fire the brain. Motion is LIFE!
wuzio 3 years ago
Just wanted to comment on you saying, "People get all caught up in asymmetries...natural & asymptomatic anomalies.". That's why we do imaging...to confirm findings! If you look at the picture of a spinal cord, the only tract that transmits nociception is the anterolateral system, being anterior and lateral spinothalamic tracts in the anterior horn. Pain is perceived in the brain, not the body. We have mechanisms in our brain that dampen pain. That's why pain isn't an indicator of health.
wuzio 3 years ago
Firstly, pain or musculoskeltal origin is influenced via movements;you get to the pain generator; you can argue what that pain generator is from, in the end, it doesn't matter, however, studies show that w/certain responses, you will out positive outcomes (i.e., centralization phenomenon).As far as studies go;as you must know, findings on imagining do not nec. correlate w/one's condition;if unfamiliar w/the studies, I can forward you some.Bottom line, make joint do what it's suppose to do.
ProPTRehab 3 years ago
Not trying to argue, but pain is not influenced by movement. Pain is your brains perception to nociceptive input. I'm sure you've had pts that have been px free after a single tx, but during your evaluation, you found there were still fixations, adhesions, assymetries, etc. So if these are present, then there cannot be proper biomechanical motion...so why is the pt without px? And if you "believe" in "centralization phen", then why are you doubting chiropractic. Thats their bread and butter!
wuzio 3 years ago
I agree, pain is in your brain, however, movements influence this perception, so movements still mean everything in orthopedics.I've worked w/numerous chiro's, centralization was not there thing until they looked at McKenzie.Studies show poor intertester reliability, even radiologically; also, it's PURE assumption to believe focusing upon assym. will lead to any benefit; especially considering varying bone shapes & normal differences from seg to seg from person to person.
ProPTRehab 3 years ago
I would agree that helping joints function optimally via various mobs to improve ROM in functional ways may be beneficial to performance,in sports &/or ADL's; it's an assumption to believe association w/decreases incidence of spinal pain in the general population when providg manips on a reg. basis; see Diek & Weinstein Studies, others. Mobs, Not Manip's as end-range thrusts over time is impact-full & rep use has greater likelihood to emulate rep trauma then prevent future problems.
ProPTRehab 3 years ago
If you apply a procedure & improve pain-free range, great. I don't think u r doing a service, however, if you rely upon Type III inhibitor receptor stimulation via the infamous 'pop' (cavatation, etc..) as a 1st approach. B.Mulligan emphasizes mobsduring movements, so freedom of movement w/out pain perception occurs w/out creating temporary laxity in the jt capsule; manip's cause pain relief in by plac'g jt in non-physiologic state; normal mvmnts, nrml uninterrupted jt movement preferred 1st
ProPTRehab 3 years ago
you guys are hilarious, haha...blaming the an entire profession on one individual. Ridiculous... I'm a neurologist that recommends chiropractic to all of my patients, because I UNDERSTAND the benefits. It's ALL based on neurology. Not taking anything away from PTs, but they've very limited in they're knowledge. Find a good chiro, then stick with him/her.
wuzio 3 years ago
This is a hilarious statement; especially considering physical therapists are scientifically based. You need to look up the works for Brian Mulligan and then you will laugh at yourself too. There is NOTHING better and more common sense! If you'd like I've got a 3 inch manual of studies and debates with chiropractors then tell me what you think. Look at the research on intertester reliability, etc.. Only the USA is chiro as known & it has to do w/politics & money
ProPTRehab 3 years ago
Not quite sure why you think that about chiros... If anything, medicine has got itself caught up in money and politics more than any other health care profession, ie: big pharma. I never said PT's weren't scientifically based, but that they're knowledge is limited. Many only go to school for 4 years. Most chiropractors have a bachelors degree then go on to take 4 years of post grad, with about 30 credit hours per semester. I have nothing against PTs. Can't all we just get along!!!
wuzio 3 years ago
Well, perhaps I should forward U statement by Texas Chiro Assoc acknowledge the diff. in PT education vsChiro & U can argue w/them. PT's knowledgeonly as limited as the research that exists.they've had the luxury of University labs over the ions&Evidence based is the push; PT no problem w/throwing out outdated notions that as u know many chiro's still can't part w/. It's not a religion w/most of us. Nothing is better for musculosketal involvement than B. Mulligan & others like him
ProPTRehab 3 years ago
Amen Doc!!!!
Beetoff 2 years ago
f"#ckin´ mall doctors. go to med school then talk.
fandaico 3 years ago
Well, perhaps I should forward you a statement by Texas Chiro Association acknowledge the diff. in PT education versus Chiro and then you can argue with them. PT's knowledge is only as limited as the research that exists. they've had the luxury of University labs for studies over the ions and have no problem with throwing out outdated notions that as you know many chiro's still can't part with.
ProPTRehab 3 years ago
Keep in mind there's always something we can learn from one another. Most chiropractors I know aren't "religious" about their techniques one bit. I've met bad MDs, bad DCs and bad PTs. All health care providers have the same goal, and that's to get their patients better. That's the bottom line...chiropractors have had great success and are only getting better. I guess it depends on where they're educated too. Some schools are very "straight", whereas others are much much more scientific.
wuzio 3 years ago
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I did (UCSD School of Med 1993) and now I am a bone cracker so F&*^ You wanna be! Shame on you for even making stupid comment like that. That is why you pump gas into my M3 BMW while taking a second job washing dishes at the sushi restraunt just so you can pay for internet usage while living at your parents house. Get Life Loser.
Dr. R
Beetoff 2 years ago
All those years of school, and you still have a pitiful command of English. What gives? Somehow I doubt whether you're UCSD material. Poser.
travelerchuk 2 years ago 3
"Thats is why you pump gas into my M3 BMW.....get a life loser.... - Dr. R"
irony, anyone?
dwt3 2 years ago
you sound retarded so its pretty clear that you aren't in fact a chiropractor... so shut the fuck up and stop dreaming up shit that you aren't and don't have.
todd350z 2 years ago
Come by my office and check out my diggs and super hot office manager and my pimp ride in front of beach front office. I will be glad to give you an address and web-site if your too far away from me. Then you can eat some crow and go back to school and a job like what I have earned through a doctor's/business owner.
Beetoff 2 years ago
somebody needs to have their way with that woman
Memphis35 3 years ago
I am seeing a PT now, thanks. The PT I'm seeing is a doctor too. He's very well-educated and his explanations of my neck and back was very simple. None of that cracking. I read a lot of articles on chiropractors and even some of the experienced DC believe it's bs. After all my troubles, the DC never told me I needed PT. That bastard told me to come to his practice again for another treatment. No thanks. I feels better not seeing that scam artist again. I get stressed out just thinking about it.
dealioo 3 years ago
I've wasted so much money on chiropractors without any relief for my neck pain and headaches. Actually, I starting getting back pain after chiropractor treated me.
dealioo 3 years ago
You will need to see a PT. Infact, it should probably be made compulsory for patients to see a PT after seeing a DC, to fix all the problems caused by them.
Medic88888 3 years ago
Damn, you're a Hottie!!!!
djbooda 3 years ago
Can you see a subluxation on an xray?
roszposa 3 years ago
No, you can't see them. Probably because they don't exist.
Medic88888 3 years ago
Hi I recently was told that i had tropism in the bottom of my back and that one of my vertebrae near my pelvis was twisted at a 90 degree angle out of place.According to my chiropractor i was born with it and it cant be fixed. I was wondering if this would cause any problems in regards to carrying a baby?
elle4jack 3 years ago
I think you are probably barking up the wrong tree... I'd ask an obstetrician/ gynecologist or possibly even an orthopaedic specialist/surgeon. That is, someone with both the appropriate and adequate medical knowledge needed.
Medic88888 3 years ago
come on doc, are you serious? Facet tropism? Did you take radiology 101?
wuzio 3 years ago
Good question. The answer would be a no. Although it may alter certain biomechanics, and lead to possible early degeneration, there is no risk associated with pregnancy.
wuzio 3 years ago
My dad has that same Cause and Effect poster in his office.
ThePranxster 3 years ago
that girl is gorgeous.
chillipeanuts 3 years ago
exactly what I thought. Beautiful eyes!:)
Xetenor 3 years ago
I like the fact you mentioned dietary health. Not many people mention that as a cause.
europamo 4 years ago