There have been more than 47,000 views about the Genesis Hoax.
The biggest Hoax is Jesus Christ.
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I challenge anyone to produce one piece of evidence documenting the existence of Jesus that was recorded during the supposed lifespan of Jesus (1Ce - 33 CE).
If you can explain why the earthquake/Zombie story in Matthew 27: 50-54 is not in any other Gospel or recorded by anyone else, that would make challenge number 2.
Please try to find a good Hebrew/English Interlinear Bible which gives you the Hebrew TEXT which includes syntax (prefixes and suffixes). Avoid people like this who contradict their own hypothis.
Man (adam) is plural, "the" has been added. However The Text itself reads "ha'adam" = "the man"; also "adam" is first singular masculine. Yes it conveys Humanity-plural but only in that humanity is found IN adam (singular) ie Israel (people-plural) is of one Man Abraham, or Jacob(singular) represents Israel (the people-plural). What makes singular plural is syntax construct of the Text, Not the word itself in isolation to the text. What CB is doing is very bad scholarship.
He is quoting from a Concordance (which is exellently useful to find the root or meaning of a biblical Word). However, He is "NOT" quoting from THE biblical text itself. Example- Elohiym is A Plural Noun But is used as first person singular (ie- Exod.7:1 Moses Becomes "The Elohiym" to Pharoah; Both Moses and Elohiym are singular. Another example- CB uses to introduce his idiology is Hoaxes 7. He states that the "the" in Gen 1:26 ("the" Man) is a later addition and the word
@TheNationalarmy the messengers are not part of the earthly creation - which is the subject of genesis 1 & 2. "created the heavens and the earth" should more properly be translated as "fattened (or filled out) the sky and the land".
This comment was to augment my previous discussions with churchbandit for this video. Just pointing out that the latest understanding of bereshit is that It means A beginning NOT THE beginning. Therefore implying that other things may have been created before this time including Malak & this may well be the US referred to.
I believe that the Rigveda may hold the earliest description of the actual beginning.
(cont.) 1 In the beginning, there was neither existence nor non-existence. There was neither air nor space. There was no water, deep and fathomless. There was nothing to envelope or protect.
2 There was neither death nor immortality. There was neither night nor day. Only God breathed windless by his own power. Apart from God, there was nothing whatsoever.
(cont.) 3 Darkness prevailed everywhere before the creation of the universe. Yet there subsisted one glorious Being, all intelligence, who created the universe by contemplation of what he wanted to do.
4 Thereafter rose Desire in the beginning, Desire, the primal seed and germ of Spirit. - END
So you're whole video is based off of what the writer might have said. You said yourself that the translation is "closer" to what he said. You do not say this is what he said. So you present no proof he used Eloyhim in his writing.
The ancient Hebrews worshipped just as many deities as their Sumerian, Babylonian & Egyptian predecessors! Do you honestly think these cultures were complete morons for 1000s of years until the Hebrews showed up?
Hollywood gives the impression, while the ancient Hebrews were in Egypt they were devoted to Yahweh all their lives & obeyed Hebrew Laws, Customs & Religious Practices that did not come along until AFTER they entered the Promised Land.
It was actually at least 40 years BEFORE entering the Promised land that there agreement with YHWH came in to effect - Exodus 24:3-8. & not just for the Hebrews (descendants of Abraham) but for the many Egyptians who had come with them. They had seen all there false gods brought low by the 10 Plagues. If you research these you will find each plague demonstrates the impotents of at least one of the major Egyptian Deity's.
@ChurchBandit I have been doing some research in to earlier Sumerian language and texts. Firstly see : - en .wikipedia. org/wiki/EN_%28cuneiform%29
In some of the earliest know texts a word combination is used to denote the most might or almighty deity : - En.En.En.(En.) - most commonly used with the 3 iterations - 3 used culturally for EMPHASIS. In a more compact alphabetic language, such a Hebrew this would have to be translated as a PLURAL - but its meaning is certainly not plural.
@ChurchBandit The Sumerian En is a direct equivalent to the Hebrew El. In the pictographic sense this word is the bulls head and the staff indicating power & authority - a mighty one. But in the plural sense (three times for emphasis) as in El.ohim - indicating very mighty. Brown-Driver-Briggs defines this as 2) (plural intensive - singular meaning). So I think that this issue has been brought to a satisfactory conclusion.
According to Genesis/Exodus, the nomadic Jacob/Israel, his family & servants relocated to Egypt b/c famine was everywhere. Gee - How did Egypt avoid a global famine w/o Devine Intervention? And how did a people (Hebrews) with NO culture of their own NOT be influenced by the greatest empire of the time (Egypt) after spending their lives their? What was one of the 1st things they did after the Exodus? Return to Egyptian religion (i.e. worship the Golden Calf).
Geography - Egypt had the Nile & if you have been there then you will know what I am talking about. BTW the Apis bull was not Egyptian, but was adopted by them just a few centuries prior to the exodus. It is also why the yearly atonement sacrifice was to be a young bull to remind Isreal of there error.
In Jer 7:18; 44:17-19, 25, Hebrews WORSHIPPED the Queen of Heaven. In early earth history different cultures worshipped the same deities under different names. Like you said: the Sumerians worshipped Ianna and the Akkadians, Ishtar - the same deity. Unbeknownst to most, the Egyptians worshipped Yaweh under the guise of Ra - the deity who helped them avoid global famine.
Just two more things - (1)If you really knew the ancient Hebrew language as you claim then you would know that there is no word equivalent to the modern word WORSHIP in it. YHWH did not ask for worship but instead that they SERVE. Exodus 3:12 & 7:16. (2) Most Egyptian Gods were in fact deified Pharaohs & as with the surrounding nations there pantheons grew over time. The Development over time of 'The Book of the Dead' demonstrates this nicely.
The ancient Hebrews believed in multiple deities but they came to only worship one - Yahweh. According to Exd.3:6, Yahweh introduced himself to Moses as the God of thy Fathers. But according to Exd.3:13, Moses, nor the Children of Israel, knew who that was, exactly.
Unlike the Hollywood version, the ancient Hebrews did not beg Yahweh for deliverance. They arbitrarily moaned & groaned b/c of their bondage & Yahweh heard them (Exd 2:23).
When Abram was in Ur there were many gods but then Abram became Abraham (which means to cross over) he then served only YHWH along with his offspring. Even Teraphim if you reaserch them were culturally a deed of ownership and birthright & not actually an idol of worship.
If you cannot answer the fundamental flaw in you video as pointed out by ancienthebreworg (If you answer his question you will prove that your video is flawed & that is why you have not done so).
@ChurchBandit If I can make a suggestion to you. The book "Slave Species of god" by Michael Tellinger is an excellent work into the research of Zechariah Sitchin. I've read 5 of his books but if I did'nt read Tellingers' book I would never have delved into Sitchins' amazing research. Also,a very quick 110pg. read called "Past Shock" by Jack Barranger would be a great start. For me,this subject matter connected all the dots of so many mysteries that have been kept from us.
@ChurchBandit Incorrect: The term worship is a western abstract term, and not a possibility in Hebrew.
Isaiah 45:5-7 Regardless whether or not Yhwh has messengers, or adversaries involved in keeping you on the path, or whether or not the Yisraelites became lost from the path, and the fact that this isn't obscured from the text, in the Hebrew writings.
Doesn't negate Yhwh as being anything other than one.
Of course you would know that the Hebrew word 'shêm' is referring to his character (reputation / power etc.) and not literally his NAME (as in the sense of a label). Exodus 3:14 onwards YHWH is saying that they would SEE his character in action (miracles & power) & that's how they would know him as the true mighty one.
You claim that the plurality of Elohim in Gen 1:1 means many gods but any Jew who reads ancient Hebrew would tell you that the use of a plural word in a sentence where the SENTENCE STRUCTURE IS SINGULAR changes is from meaning plural to meaning superlative. Which is consistent with Gen 17:1 El Shaddai′ .BTW the trinity did not become established as a doctrine until about 500AD based on the Ahuric triad. Nicea set up Jesus as part of a duality. Nothing mentioned about holy spirit.
@ChurchBandit My most sincere compliments go out to you ChurchBandit. You have presented the phony,cruel world of 'Judeo-Christianity' exposed to the light of critical thinking in this video and I give it TWO THUMBS UP! !
How do you know what is phony? You haven't presented any type of alternative argument to this video. You just start whining about it being phony without anything to back it up!
The goddess is to be identified with the Sumerian fertility goddess Inanna, Babylonian Ishtar. The name Inanna literally means ''Queen of Heaven.'' The corresponding Babylonian goddess Ishtar was qualified in the Akkadian texts by the epithets ''queen of the heavens'' and ''queen of the heavens and of the stars.'' So it was not a Hebrew Deity. Jer 44 was prophecy that came true against people worshipping falsely. The reasoning in this video is somewhat flawed along with the Hebrew breakdown.
The Catholic Church historicall spoon fed information to the rest of the European world - beginning with the King James Bible. One they, themselves, refuse to use. They dictated what is doctrine & what is not.
I often wondered why the Catholic Church uses so many sculptures of females. There is even a Catholic Church nearby with the words, The Queen of Heaven, plastered across the top front of the cathedral. It probably goes unnoticed by most. But I, personally, always wondered about that.
There are feminime Prefixes/Suffixes used throughout the Hebrew text. But after over 45k Views, I was hesitant to make revisions. How could I've left that out!?
I was up late ... half cockeyed & asleep! Maybe I'll make a Part II or something ... when I get the time.
I wouldn't have a problem with your videos if they were honest, after all, each person is intitled to their own opinions on how the Bible should be interpreted. But in your case, you pass yourself off as someone who knows Hebrew and is speaking with authority, but the truth is, and both you and I know it, is that you can't read one word of Hebrew. In my book that makes you a dishonest and deceitful person.
If you can prove to me and others that you do know Hebrew, then I will apologize to you right here and admit that I was wrong. All you have to do is tell me what ויאמר means.
@ancienthebreworg I think you are wasting your time with this one; I believe that your efforts are best served sticking to the attributes of becoming a true Hebrew scholar, and avoiding theological opinions and thought, as this has been the error of western, and Roman culture.
I believe your research will take you down the path you seek, if you stick to the Hebrew.
@1daewoo888 Yes, you are correct, it is a waste of time to convince ChurchBandit. My original intention was to show others the problems with his "translation," so that others don't fall into the trap, but to have these kind of discussions with ChurchBandit is kind of pointless LOL, thanks for the comment, time to get back to work on more productive videos :-)
There existed at least to a certain extent Jews who were waiting for the coming messiah they believed to be God the son. Now not all Jews may have bought into this but clearly it was by no means a revolutionary new idea from the 1st century AD Church. Now why this is so important? Because it is a central tenet of not only Christian orthodoxy, but of the Nature of God. To deny such a principle is to deny a portion of God
Further evidence from Old Testament Jewish beliefs of the trinity. The Targum Neofiti- 200BC. (A targum is an accepted interpretation of the Scriptures from a Rabbi-- similar to a modernday commentary.) This specific Targum states that "In the beginning by the firstborn, God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and void and the spirit of God was hovering over the face of the Deep." - This was 200 years prior to the birth of Christ!
"In the Beginning God created the heavens and the earth...and the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the deep."Genesis 1:1-2 (In the first 2 lines of the scripture we see distinct doctrine of parts of the trinity, i.e. the word for God here is Elohim and plural word for the Hebrew God "El". We also see the presents of the Holy spirit working his part in creation).
I still can not believe. how you still have these video on youtube when they clearly violate almost every basic Hebraic bible translation rule and grammar known. You are omitting, forcing, and basically remaking the scripture to fit your mistaken view, rather than fitting your view to match the scripture.
Please understand the Biblical Hebrew with all of it grammar, culture and mindset, before you post more.
Remember we who teach r held to a higher standard.
Church Bandit I expected an intelligent adult reply, instead you replied with a childish attempt to insult me. It would have been nice if you would have tried to refute my statement with biblical proof and perhaps say that I may have been mistaken in the view that I have taken.
I still invite you to prove my statement false and your to be true.
Again I invite you to use sound Biblical methods with a full understanding of the Hebraic text, grammar, culture, and mindset (logic) to prove ur point
For someone who can make such a profound statement ... you ask adolescent questions. Please explain what "zealous God" means - and where do you get your information.
A primitive root; to be (causatively make) zealous, that is, (in a bad sense) jealous or envious: - (be) envy -ious, be (move to, provoke to) jealous, X very, (be) zealous.
It's not adolescent, I'm trying just like you to find out what the writer was trying to convey. I suppose it could mean jealous in some passages because it doesn't have to mean envious in a covetous way like we do, but more jealous for their love and well being. I think zealous is pretty self explanatory.
Ok...let's translate 'jealous god' into 'zealous god'. Now what do you want to translate 'wrathful,vengeful god' into ??? Let's face it man......'Jehovah' of the Old Testament is one psychotic entity.
Yahweh was an evil entity. He didn't just kill disobedient followers, but he liked killing the innocent of enemy & opposing nations.
The Midianites, Canaanites, etc., he ordered the deaths of their women & children, even their cattle. He seemed to have no problem killing babies!! I'd like Xians to explain that one.
It's possible this yahweh, even enjoyed the killing, he ordered so much of it.
This being was insane & inherently evil! It's curious how Xians overlook these traits
at 1.45 That Council would have been in C.E. or A.D. if you prefer... I am not sure of the spelling of the name of the town, but I think it is different from what you have.
You probably have some really good stuff here. I hope it is not marred by a lot of silly minor errors and typos.
The only point I make is that the ancient Hebrews never believed in any sort of TRINITY. So, when they wrote about the plural "Elohiym (translated 'God')" they did not have the number THREE in mind.
Have you ever thought that the words of the Bible are exact words from the Lord, that he used through his people to convey his message to the world and told the author of Genesis to say it this way, telling him that you don't understand now, but you will later when your in heaven.
Hello, I watched your video series 1 - 9. I have been teaching Biblical Hebrew for 20+ yrs and I must say that I like your video presentations, but the content and conclusions are very wrong as a whole and this comes from your lack of Biblical Hebrew. The lack of understanding of Hebrew grammar, tenses, roots etc. the videos have many mistakes, wrong conclusions and mistranslations. Plus you seem to be working with a western logic not the period Hebrew logic and understanding of those days.
I Thank you for your response, I will be glad to give you the truth not an alt. I do believe if you put a vidio out on you tube it should be put up here with the best information possible. I did watch a GREAT Factual and Sound Biblical ALT to your video and that is by Jeff Benner. I would be happy to email you PDFs of books etc concerning biblical Hebrew and not just the STRONGS word STUDY which although good (NOT THE BEST HEBREW UNDERSTANDING) Word are commanded to STUDY Meaning DISECT THE WORD
They don't say THREE in the NT either, but my point was maybe that was what was meant without completely disclosing it when it was said "let US make....".
The CONCEPT of the trinity came well before Christ. There are several "trinity" like gods called "triune gods" or "triple deities". The Wikipedia article for "triple_deities" has a list of some of them.
That are grouped into threes, in one form or another, just like the Christian trinity.
The actual nature is different among each one, but this three-god grouping is not new.
For instance, Vishnu is one god with three forms : Maha Vishnu, Garbhodakasayi Vishnu and Kshirodakasayi Vishnu.
In fact, Maha Vishnu is analogous to the father (creator of all energy), Garb. to the son (enters into the physical universe), and Kshirodakasayi to the holy spirit (all-pervading "Supersoul").
No, I mean a notation in the video itself, however I guess I should have looked at the description. It would be nice, however, if there were a notation in the video itself.
things mentioned in genesis are a disgrace to a believer,who firmly believes that God is pure and no weakness or mistakes can happen by him,God almighty will never tell people to do bad things,i,e adultry fornication,God forbid,jesus came to purify the message of God to jews but was rejected, so the jews at that time got together and created this version of bible as they liked, full of corrupted ideas,that go against the true message of purity and guidance,limits of relationships in family
this is the truth, there is two creation storys in the bible, GOD and the LORD GOD are two different people, the first creation was talking about the first creation of habitation on venus!!! and the second on earth!!!
I already knew that! Cain built a city when there was only two othe people? Why was he afraisd that other would kill him, when he had the wjole world to Himself and could evade easily? The Word "Serpent" altered from a word that described a humaniod looking luminous being that performed wonders and the Serpent implied to Eve that he was an elohim.
The word "day" in the first chapters was altered from a word that means a vast amount of time. Adam was created on the Eighth Day not the sixth.
Expert? Where. All I see are perceptions including my own. My post was to a comment made on page 8 or so and ended up on top of AlchemicalAscendancy making it appear as if my comment was to that person. It was not. Everything seems based on perception. Is a bee's vision true vision or is a humans? Is Jesus, Venus, and Lucifer one and the same? It's all in how one perceives it. "We're all mad here."~ Cheshire Cat
THE SIMPLE TRUTH IS THAT ENGLISH IS HEBREW, IN IT'S ALPHANUMERICAL REVERSE! HEBREW reads, Right to Left, &
English reads Left to Right. This has serious implications on our brain cognition, especially our Intuitive & Spiritual portions of the Brain. Hebrew is the ONE True G_D'S, or rather Y_DS Holy Language. What or who's does that make the AssBackwards English language? Pardon my French, hehe:)
A very interesting position. But, Hebrew is the ONE True (God's) Language or that they are God's Chosen People is HEBREW PROPAGANDA. No one else shared the view. Especially, all the races the Hebrew murdered TO CLEANSE the land that they (Hebrews) claimed, God (or better yet - THEIR God) promised to them.
According to History, it all began with the Sumerians. Then, later the Akkadians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Phoenicians , Egyptians = from which finally emerged, the Hebrew. And each one added their own TWIST (& Characters) to the stories.
The Greek/Roman Empires were no different. They produced the LATIN BIBLE - a compilation of Hebrew OT & Greek NT books translated in LATIN.
HISTORIEANS believe JESUS was INVENTED by the GREEKS! He appears in NO OTHER WRITINGS!
Nice vid, I have contemplated much of the same. I also find it interesting that during Sumerian times they seemed to have a similar story of creation. I personally feel that religion is a campfire story that got out of hand and every one put their own twist on it.
Once the Gospel hit Europe (back in 1AD), the Religious Powers-that-Be'd took complete advantage of the idea!
Once they got their hands on every ancient Eastern religious scroll imaginable, they chose the EASIEST ONES to EDIT & TWEAK to CONFORM to THEIR OWN IDEAS & DEMONIZED ALL OTHERS! They called their idea - CHRISTIANITY.
Which, btw, was designed to INTIMIDATE, OPRESS & TERRORIZE the unsuspecting COMMON PEOPLE into OBEYING CHURCH AUTHORITY, w/o question!
This is a great video! (purely content) It is nice to see others on the same wavelength. I came to these conlusions with out your input. Keep up the good work towards our true salvation and freedom.
The oldest culture known to man, the Sumerians, invented "writing." "Genesis" is the English version of the much older Hebrew "Bershîth (or something like that)" ... which is their version of the Sumerian texts (probably adapted from the Egyptian version, too).
The Sumerians had 7-Tables that described Creation. The English version is 7-days that describe Creation.
The most EVIL PEOPLE on this planet are of the RELIGIOUS PERSUASION! They believe that their own SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS is a LICENSE to MISTREAT OTHER PEOPLE!
Thanks for your response. But I am not sure what it is in response to. This Video is about "God" .. not "Satan." But I am familiar with Elaine Pagel. ♣
There is the Hebrew "Satan (sah-TAHN)" & the Latin "Satan (SAY-tahn)." These r 2 entirely different concepts. But ppl do not know of them nor how 2 distinguish between them.
The Latin (i.e. a fallen Angel; God's Nemesis; Leader of a host of Evil Spirits) is often presumed. But the Hebrew scriptures never speak of such a concept. Christianity has a tendency to FORCE this idea in the Old Testament. ♣
According to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by his blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance.1Peter.1,2
Once again, r u muttering what someone told u 2 think? THE TRINITY was dreamt-up by t/1st Century Church of Rome. Who, btw, produced t/Epistles. The Epistles were written at least 50-years PRIOR 2 THE GOSPELS! But I bet u think they were written n/t sequence they appear in THE BIBLE. Ergo, X-AMOUNT OF YEARS AFTER the Gospels!
Prior 2/t TRINITY CONCEPT, "God the Father," referred 2: FATHER OF THE GODS! Or, LEADER! Or, RULER! Greeks historically believed n/a RACE OF GODS! As did ancient cultures that preceeded them. Especially, the Hebrews! In Jeremiah 44:17-19,25, they even worship THE QUEEN OF HEAVEN! But SHE did not fit n/t Roman Church's agenda!
Ridiculous! you answer your own question!(oh dear,yes,the trinity)At Nicea,what Christians already believed was ratified.You contradict yourself when you say that the Jews were monotheistic,regardless,the Inspired Word still says there is a plurality!Because you deny the AUTHORITY of Scripture you congratulate yourself too soon!
Have you ever done ANY RESEARCH on JEWISH HISTORY (or the HOLY TRINITY) of your own? Or, are you merely voicing what you have been TOLD TO THINK? ♣
Moob, the whole damned thing is a crock of shit. I fell for it too, until I was about 10 or 11 years old. Boy, I'll tell you...I had Jesus tucked up tight and I now can't believe how naive I was. Once the blinders come off, everything starts to make sense. Best of luck. Just keep on THINKING, is all I can say. Knowledge is the enemy of Christianity.
There's the difference,I came to faith at 26 after 10yrs-or-so looking at every kind of belief/unbelief...Christianity was the last place I was going to look!(I thought)No indoctrination,and my "investigations"continue,I LOVE knowledge/search for truth,hate liars/deceivers.(oops)Nothing else "worked"for me.
TRUTH is only WHAT U THINK (or decide) IT IS! Ergo, what ever form of Christianity u were taught 2 believe .. is true. But SANTA CLAUS is just as real to children. Be that as it may, this research is based on DOCUMENTED FACTS that ANYONE can look up! THAT is the ULTIMATE TRUTH!
In Job, a character named SATAN (sahw-TAHN [Hebr] ... not SAY-tan [Latin]), THE ADVERSARY (who roamed t/earth observing, questioning, challenging) along w/t sons of God came b4 THE LORD 2 pay their respects.
This is a PEACEFUL ENCOUNTER. This Satan IS NOT t/"evil enemy of God" that t/Latin Church made up 1000s of yrs after Job was written. Job gives no indication that "Satan" or the "Sons of God" r evil beings. YOU ONLY ASSUME THAT YOURSELF & FORCE THAT IDEA n2t story.
You're almost right. Satan in the Hebrew was a generic term for angelic beings with the sole purpose of challenging humans. The first mention of one of these "satans" is actually found in the book of Numbers where Balem's donkey starts talking. The oposing angel is actually refered to as a satan only because he is standing in the path of Balem. Look it up in a Strong's concordinance if you don't believe me.
DO any of u relise that the first creation of man was oon the sixth day,the second creation of ADAM and eve were on or after God had rested on the sabath or seventh day.
You can draw all kinds of conclusions based on the literal English text. But the original Hebrew text says something completely different. So, it is up 2/t individual ... ACKNOWLEDGE t/orig text or IGNORE it. But ignoring it DOES NOT make the English version, true. Its called VERSION 4/a reason.
If this so-called God created heaven and earth then why do scientist keep trying to figure out why we here? The search reinforces that no God exist. God is unbelievable
There is a very good chance that GOD is merely a PERSONIFICATION 4 explaining various concepts of ANCIENT SCIENCE 2 primitive minds. No different than how children learn on shows like Sesame Street, Barney, etc.
That is one hypothesis,however,once an individual has a personal experience of the alleged Personification,it is always better than mere human speculation.These are not mere matters of argument,but of actual truth and reality.We have only ONE LIFE in which to "get it right!"
Are u absolutely sure beyond all reasonable doubt that "YOU GOT IT RIGHT?" We r all free to interpret our experiences any way we choose. But THAT is ALL it is!
As children, we had PERSONAL EXPERIENCES while believing in SANTA CLAUS. At least, those who did (believe in Santa). People in EVERY RELIGION has PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. Which is why they SWEAR UP & DOWN that GOD is part of their religion.
If the bible is fake why has all the prophecies from the O/T come true & 2nd why are alot of the prophecies from the N/T coming to past! Because your blind & ignorant! The last time I posted a comment it didn't show, makes me wonder if you know your working for SATAN or not, you obviously didn't want anybody to see my comments. Your manipulative and you'll pay some day, or u gonna shove my comment under the rug again. I pray for your ignorance 2b lifted from yr blind eye's amen.
Please elaborate ... Exactly which OT prophecies have come true? What NT prophecies hv come 2 past?
FYI: SATAN is ficticious. There is no SATAN n/t orig.Hebr scripts. This LATIN concept was ADDED by t/1st Century Church of Rome (now, t/Roman Catholic Church). Hebrews knew nothing about LATIN concepts ... which came n2 existence abt 5000 yrs later.
I am well aware f/t original Sumerian texts. If anything, one purpose of these Vids s/2 show how similar the Hebrew & Sumerian texts actually are. But feel free to share any info
compelling arguements, altough i must let you know the holy trinity doesnt exist...it was Jesus that was with God in the beginning. God was a jealous God yeah, but it wasnt because there were more "gods" there were just really dumb people who believed if they made a statue out of clay it would help them so he got kinda pissed off at that idea.
because i have been in 3 bible studies, all of different religious backgrounds. i am basing what i say from what i HEARD... :-)..care to responf if you want....butif you offend me you are just waisting your time...
I'm not trying 2 offend u. I just want 2 know where u get your info. Bible Studies (@ least traditional 1s) teach "their own perspective" of these scriptures. This Video Project explores THE ORIGINAL HEBREW VERSIONS of these Scriptures.
Sponsored by a big church in London, they began to search all the city's from the old testament around the 1880's. They found all of them except 3. In those city's they found libraries. In those libraries they found the original story of genesis. This original Sumerian version is 3000 years older then the first Jewish version. I have the translations on my profile. Are you ready to be confronted with the original version?
About Einstein's belief in God, many Christians claim that "Even Albert Einstein believes in God" . In fact, he wrote:
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God ... If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world ..."
Albert Einstein, in a letter March 24, 1954; from Albert Einstein the Human Side, Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, eds., Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton University Press, 1981, p. 43.
There have been more than 47,000 views about the Genesis Hoax.
The biggest Hoax is Jesus Christ.
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I challenge anyone to produce one piece of evidence documenting the existence of Jesus that was recorded during the supposed lifespan of Jesus (1Ce - 33 CE).
If you can explain why the earthquake/Zombie story in Matthew 27: 50-54 is not in any other Gospel or recorded by anyone else, that would make challenge number 2.
Boyntonstu 2 months ago
Hell, the entire supernatural believe system know as Christianity is a hoax!
This ignorant believe system is the greatest hoax in human history.
BrownMaterial 4 months ago
Please try to find a good Hebrew/English Interlinear Bible which gives you the Hebrew TEXT which includes syntax (prefixes and suffixes). Avoid people like this who contradict their own hypothis.
Shalom
DXmidgets 4 months ago
Man (adam) is plural, "the" has been added. However The Text itself reads "ha'adam" = "the man"; also "adam" is first singular masculine. Yes it conveys Humanity-plural but only in that humanity is found IN adam (singular) ie Israel (people-plural) is of one Man Abraham, or Jacob(singular) represents Israel (the people-plural). What makes singular plural is syntax construct of the Text, Not the word itself in isolation to the text. What CB is doing is very bad scholarship.
DXmidgets 4 months ago
Poor ChurchBandit,
He is quoting from a Concordance (which is exellently useful to find the root or meaning of a biblical Word). However, He is "NOT" quoting from THE biblical text itself. Example- Elohiym is A Plural Noun But is used as first person singular (ie- Exod.7:1 Moses Becomes "The Elohiym" to Pharoah; Both Moses and Elohiym are singular. Another example- CB uses to introduce his idiology is Hoaxes 7. He states that the "the" in Gen 1:26 ("the" Man) is a later addition and the word
DXmidgets 4 months ago
we will never be free from bondage - your born into it and you die and get judged. sounds like fair call to me. whos up for a frappe?
awakenlilrabbit 5 months ago
@AloofPeregrine yes
awakenlilrabbit 5 months ago
@TheNationalarmy the messengers are not part of the earthly creation - which is the subject of genesis 1 & 2. "created the heavens and the earth" should more properly be translated as "fattened (or filled out) the sky and the land".
dunklaw 1 year ago
@1daewoo888 @ancienthebreworg
You two are MORONS! Elohiym and Yahweh ARE NOT one in the same - as much as you'd like to MIS-translate, yourselves.
OutrLiimitz 1 year ago
@OutrLiimitz גויים שוטה
1daewoo888 1 year ago
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OutrLiimitz 1 year ago
Genesis 1:1 - 'When God began to create heaven and earth'
This is the language used in the latest JPS Tanakh Hebrew-English study Edition (2002).
dunklaw 2 years ago
dunklaw
I'm curious to what you point is, exactly.
HelpMeObiiWAN 2 years ago
This comment was to augment my previous discussions with churchbandit for this video. Just pointing out that the latest understanding of bereshit is that It means A beginning NOT THE beginning. Therefore implying that other things may have been created before this time including Malak & this may well be the US referred to.
I believe that the Rigveda may hold the earliest description of the actual beginning.
Mantra 129 Creation says:- (cont.)
dunklaw 2 years ago
(cont.) 1 In the beginning, there was neither existence nor non-existence. There was neither air nor space. There was no water, deep and fathomless. There was nothing to envelope or protect.
2 There was neither death nor immortality. There was neither night nor day. Only God breathed windless by his own power. Apart from God, there was nothing whatsoever.
(cont.)
dunklaw 2 years ago
(cont.) 3 Darkness prevailed everywhere before the creation of the universe. Yet there subsisted one glorious Being, all intelligence, who created the universe by contemplation of what he wanted to do.
4 Thereafter rose Desire in the beginning, Desire, the primal seed and germ of Spirit. - END
dunklaw 2 years ago
So you're whole video is based off of what the writer might have said. You said yourself that the translation is "closer" to what he said. You do not say this is what he said. So you present no proof he used Eloyhim in his writing.
MrNyelok 2 years ago
MrNyelok
All you have to do is read the original text. Even I know that! Some of the English still uses a variation of Elohiym. Don't you do any research?
HAPeMILL 2 years ago
MrNyelok
Any student of Biblical Hebrew knows "Elohiym" is used throughout the Hebrew Old Testament.
HelpMeObiiWAN 2 years ago
dunklaw
The ancient Hebrews worshipped just as many deities as their Sumerian, Babylonian & Egyptian predecessors! Do you honestly think these cultures were complete morons for 1000s of years until the Hebrews showed up?
Hollywood gives the impression, while the ancient Hebrews were in Egypt they were devoted to Yahweh all their lives & obeyed Hebrew Laws, Customs & Religious Practices that did not come along until AFTER they entered the Promised Land.
ChurchBandit 2 years ago 2
It was actually at least 40 years BEFORE entering the Promised land that there agreement with YHWH came in to effect - Exodus 24:3-8. & not just for the Hebrews (descendants of Abraham) but for the many Egyptians who had come with them. They had seen all there false gods brought low by the 10 Plagues. If you research these you will find each plague demonstrates the impotents of at least one of the major Egyptian Deity's.
dunklaw 2 years ago
@ChurchBandit I have been doing some research in to earlier Sumerian language and texts. Firstly see : - en .wikipedia. org/wiki/EN_%28cuneiform%29
In some of the earliest know texts a word combination is used to denote the most might or almighty deity : - En.En.En.(En.) - most commonly used with the 3 iterations - 3 used culturally for EMPHASIS. In a more compact alphabetic language, such a Hebrew this would have to be translated as a PLURAL - but its meaning is certainly not plural.
dunklaw 1 year ago
@ChurchBandit The Sumerian En is a direct equivalent to the Hebrew El. In the pictographic sense this word is the bulls head and the staff indicating power & authority - a mighty one. But in the plural sense (three times for emphasis) as in El.ohim - indicating very mighty. Brown-Driver-Briggs defines this as 2) (plural intensive - singular meaning). So I think that this issue has been brought to a satisfactory conclusion.
dunklaw 1 year ago
According to Genesis/Exodus, the nomadic Jacob/Israel, his family & servants relocated to Egypt b/c famine was everywhere. Gee - How did Egypt avoid a global famine w/o Devine Intervention? And how did a people (Hebrews) with NO culture of their own NOT be influenced by the greatest empire of the time (Egypt) after spending their lives their? What was one of the 1st things they did after the Exodus? Return to Egyptian religion (i.e. worship the Golden Calf).
ChurchBandit 2 years ago 2
Geography - Egypt had the Nile & if you have been there then you will know what I am talking about. BTW the Apis bull was not Egyptian, but was adopted by them just a few centuries prior to the exodus. It is also why the yearly atonement sacrifice was to be a young bull to remind Isreal of there error.
dunklaw 2 years ago
In Jer 7:18; 44:17-19, 25, Hebrews WORSHIPPED the Queen of Heaven. In early earth history different cultures worshipped the same deities under different names. Like you said: the Sumerians worshipped Ianna and the Akkadians, Ishtar - the same deity. Unbeknownst to most, the Egyptians worshipped Yaweh under the guise of Ra - the deity who helped them avoid global famine.
ChurchBandit 2 years ago
Oh is this the theory where Moses is suppose to be Akhenaten?
dunklaw 2 years ago
Just two more things - (1)If you really knew the ancient Hebrew language as you claim then you would know that there is no word equivalent to the modern word WORSHIP in it. YHWH did not ask for worship but instead that they SERVE. Exodus 3:12 & 7:16. (2) Most Egyptian Gods were in fact deified Pharaohs & as with the surrounding nations there pantheons grew over time. The Development over time of 'The Book of the Dead' demonstrates this nicely.
dunklaw 2 years ago
The ancient Hebrews believed in multiple deities but they came to only worship one - Yahweh. According to Exd.3:6, Yahweh introduced himself to Moses as the God of thy Fathers. But according to Exd.3:13, Moses, nor the Children of Israel, knew who that was, exactly.
Unlike the Hollywood version, the ancient Hebrews did not beg Yahweh for deliverance. They arbitrarily moaned & groaned b/c of their bondage & Yahweh heard them (Exd 2:23).
YOUR LOGIC is flawed not the video!
ChurchBandit 2 years ago
When Abram was in Ur there were many gods but then Abram became Abraham (which means to cross over) he then served only YHWH along with his offspring. Even Teraphim if you reaserch them were culturally a deed of ownership and birthright & not actually an idol of worship.
If you cannot answer the fundamental flaw in you video as pointed out by ancienthebreworg (If you answer his question you will prove that your video is flawed & that is why you have not done so).
dunklaw 2 years ago
dunklaw
So we agree - the ancient Hebrews worshipped a variety of deities. What other point are you trying to make?
And please do not confuse - not willing to play childish games - with - cannot answer a simple question.
ChurchBandit 2 years ago
@ChurchBandit If I can make a suggestion to you. The book "Slave Species of god" by Michael Tellinger is an excellent work into the research of Zechariah Sitchin. I've read 5 of his books but if I did'nt read Tellingers' book I would never have delved into Sitchins' amazing research. Also,a very quick 110pg. read called "Past Shock" by Jack Barranger would be a great start. For me,this subject matter connected all the dots of so many mysteries that have been kept from us.
tjrxk7 2 years ago
@ChurchBandit Incorrect: The term worship is a western abstract term, and not a possibility in Hebrew.
Isaiah 45:5-7 Regardless whether or not Yhwh has messengers, or adversaries involved in keeping you on the path, or whether or not the Yisraelites became lost from the path, and the fact that this isn't obscured from the text, in the Hebrew writings.
Doesn't negate Yhwh as being anything other than one.
The only confusion is in your mind.
1daewoo888 1 year ago
Of course you would know that the Hebrew word 'shêm' is referring to his character (reputation / power etc.) and not literally his NAME (as in the sense of a label). Exodus 3:14 onwards YHWH is saying that they would SEE his character in action (miracles & power) & that's how they would know him as the true mighty one.
dunklaw 2 years ago
dunklaw
None of this has anything to do with the video in question.
ChurchBandit 2 years ago
None of it?
You claim that the plurality of Elohim in Gen 1:1 means many gods but any Jew who reads ancient Hebrew would tell you that the use of a plural word in a sentence where the SENTENCE STRUCTURE IS SINGULAR changes is from meaning plural to meaning superlative. Which is consistent with Gen 17:1 El Shaddai′ .BTW the trinity did not become established as a doctrine until about 500AD based on the Ahuric triad. Nicea set up Jesus as part of a duality. Nothing mentioned about holy spirit.
dunklaw 2 years ago
@ChurchBandit My most sincere compliments go out to you ChurchBandit. You have presented the phony,cruel world of 'Judeo-Christianity' exposed to the light of critical thinking in this video and I give it TWO THUMBS UP! !
tjrxk7 2 years ago
tjrxk7
How do you know what is phony? You haven't presented any type of alternative argument to this video. You just start whining about it being phony without anything to back it up!
Either put up or shut up!
HAPeMILL 2 years ago
Compare the word ‛âlâh in Exodus 2:23 with the same word in Genesis 8:20 where the KJV says 'OFFERED' - NOT SO ARBITRARY.
dunklaw 2 years ago
The goddess is to be identified with the Sumerian fertility goddess Inanna, Babylonian Ishtar. The name Inanna literally means ''Queen of Heaven.'' The corresponding Babylonian goddess Ishtar was qualified in the Akkadian texts by the epithets ''queen of the heavens'' and ''queen of the heavens and of the stars.'' So it was not a Hebrew Deity. Jer 44 was prophecy that came true against people worshipping falsely. The reasoning in this video is somewhat flawed along with the Hebrew breakdown.
dunklaw 2 years ago
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ChurchBandit 2 years ago
The Catholic Church historicall spoon fed information to the rest of the European world - beginning with the King James Bible. One they, themselves, refuse to use. They dictated what is doctrine & what is not.
Ever wonder about that?
BaadSiide 2 years ago 2
Queen of Heaven. Priceless!
I often wondered why the Catholic Church uses so many sculptures of females. There is even a Catholic Church nearby with the words, The Queen of Heaven, plastered across the top front of the cathedral. It probably goes unnoticed by most. But I, personally, always wondered about that.
tubulaar 2 years ago 2
wonderful work!
windmeal 2 years ago
That aside, this is a very interesting perspective. Especially, the part about Elohiym (I'll use your spelling) consisting of male & female deities.
GoStealthOnEm 2 years ago
There are feminime Prefixes/Suffixes used throughout the Hebrew text. But after over 45k Views, I was hesitant to make revisions. How could I've left that out!?
I was up late ... half cockeyed & asleep! Maybe I'll make a Part II or something ... when I get the time.
ChurchBandit 2 years ago
Actually, what the author wrote was what you have in the title @ 0:45, B'Reshiyt.
GoStealthOnEm 2 years ago
Yeah. I know. This vid has several minor glitches. But since they have nothing to do with THE CRUX ... I just let them be.
I might put that Annotate feature to good use ... when I get the time.
ChurchBandit 2 years ago
Hey ChurchBandit, can you tell me what the word ויאמר means? Thanks.
ancienthebreworg 2 years ago
Why are you asking me such an elementary question when you already know the answer?
Oooh! You're the guy who thinks I don't know any Hebrew beyond a Bible Concordance.
funny
ChurchBandit 2 years ago
I see you didn't answer the question, I guess that confirms things, thanks..
ancienthebreworg 2 years ago
I don't play silly games.
Try to be a little more mature.
ChurchBandit 2 years ago
I wouldn't have a problem with your videos if they were honest, after all, each person is intitled to their own opinions on how the Bible should be interpreted. But in your case, you pass yourself off as someone who knows Hebrew and is speaking with authority, but the truth is, and both you and I know it, is that you can't read one word of Hebrew. In my book that makes you a dishonest and deceitful person.
ancienthebreworg 2 years ago
If you can prove to me and others that you do know Hebrew, then I will apologize to you right here and admit that I was wrong. All you have to do is tell me what ויאמר means.
ancienthebreworg 2 years ago
@ancienthebreworg I think you are wasting your time with this one; I believe that your efforts are best served sticking to the attributes of becoming a true Hebrew scholar, and avoiding theological opinions and thought, as this has been the error of western, and Roman culture.
I believe your research will take you down the path you seek, if you stick to the Hebrew.
1daewoo888 1 year ago
@1daewoo888 Yes, you are correct, it is a waste of time to convince ChurchBandit. My original intention was to show others the problems with his "translation," so that others don't fall into the trap, but to have these kind of discussions with ChurchBandit is kind of pointless LOL, thanks for the comment, time to get back to work on more productive videos :-)
ancienthebreworg 1 year ago
We all talk to ourselves. Unfortunately, some folks think the voice talking back is GOD.
HAPeMILL 2 years ago 2
Hey sometimes i talk to myself WTF??? theres nothing wrong with that
soteloco 2 years ago
sote..
Fine, but you don't refer to yourself in the pleural, do you?
Cootabux 2 years ago
There existed at least to a certain extent Jews who were waiting for the coming messiah they believed to be God the son. Now not all Jews may have bought into this but clearly it was by no means a revolutionary new idea from the 1st century AD Church. Now why this is so important? Because it is a central tenet of not only Christian orthodoxy, but of the Nature of God. To deny such a principle is to deny a portion of God
RRAA117 2 years ago
Further evidence from Old Testament Jewish beliefs of the trinity. The Targum Neofiti- 200BC. (A targum is an accepted interpretation of the Scriptures from a Rabbi-- similar to a modernday commentary.) This specific Targum states that "In the beginning by the firstborn, God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and void and the spirit of God was hovering over the face of the Deep." - This was 200 years prior to the birth of Christ!
RRAA117 2 years ago
Church Bandit
The Trinity is found in the Targum Neofiti
Old Testament evidence for the Trinity.
"In the Beginning God created the heavens and the earth...and the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the deep."Genesis 1:1-2 (In the first 2 lines of the scripture we see distinct doctrine of parts of the trinity, i.e. the word for God here is Elohim and plural word for the Hebrew God "El". We also see the presents of the Holy spirit working his part in creation).
RRAA117 2 years ago
Church Bandit
I still can not believe. how you still have these video on youtube when they clearly violate almost every basic Hebraic bible translation rule and grammar known. You are omitting, forcing, and basically remaking the scripture to fit your mistaken view, rather than fitting your view to match the scripture.
Please understand the Biblical Hebrew with all of it grammar, culture and mindset, before you post more.
Remember we who teach r held to a higher standard.
RRAA117 2 years ago
RRAA117
Speak English!
ChurchBandit 2 years ago
Church Bandit I expected an intelligent adult reply, instead you replied with a childish attempt to insult me. It would have been nice if you would have tried to refute my statement with biblical proof and perhaps say that I may have been mistaken in the view that I have taken.
I still invite you to prove my statement false and your to be true.
Again I invite you to use sound Biblical methods with a full understanding of the Hebraic text, grammar, culture, and mindset (logic) to prove ur point
RRAA117 2 years ago
the word "jealous" God should be translated "zealous" hebrew man.
stevehauk 2 years ago
For someone who can make such a profound statement ... you ask adolescent questions. Please explain what "zealous God" means - and where do you get your information.
ChurchBandit 2 years ago
qânâ'
kaw-naw'
A primitive root; to be (causatively make) zealous, that is, (in a bad sense) jealous or envious: - (be) envy -ious, be (move to, provoke to) jealous, X very, (be) zealous.
It's not adolescent, I'm trying just like you to find out what the writer was trying to convey. I suppose it could mean jealous in some passages because it doesn't have to mean envious in a covetous way like we do, but more jealous for their love and well being. I think zealous is pretty self explanatory.
stevehauk 2 years ago
Ok...let's translate 'jealous god' into 'zealous god'. Now what do you want to translate 'wrathful,vengeful god' into ??? Let's face it man......'Jehovah' of the Old Testament is one psychotic entity.
tjrxk7 2 years ago 2
Don't talk so ignorant, He's always angry when He's angry, towards evil and He's always more thn fair.
stevehauk 2 years ago
hahahha.... can I get an "Amen"? ??
YourDarkAccomplice 2 years ago
tjr..
So correct!
Yahweh was an evil entity. He didn't just kill disobedient followers, but he liked killing the innocent of enemy & opposing nations.
The Midianites, Canaanites, etc., he ordered the deaths of their women & children, even their cattle. He seemed to have no problem killing babies!! I'd like Xians to explain that one.
It's possible this yahweh, even enjoyed the killing, he ordered so much of it.
This being was insane & inherently evil! It's curious how Xians overlook these traits
Cootabux 2 years ago
Why do some folks make STUPID COMMENTS without explaining themselves?
SONofMADman 2 years ago
That video, is simply stupid period
petebure 2 years ago
nice vids...... thanks for your hard work decifering languages for us
mixumup1 2 years ago
at 1.45 That Council would have been in C.E. or A.D. if you prefer... I am not sure of the spelling of the name of the town, but I think it is different from what you have.
You probably have some really good stuff here. I hope it is not marred by a lot of silly minor errors and typos.
NuyBard 2 years ago
That error is noted in the Description Area.
read
ChurchBandit 2 years ago
The only point I make is that the ancient Hebrews never believed in any sort of TRINITY. So, when they wrote about the plural "Elohiym (translated 'God')" they did not have the number THREE in mind.
ChurchBandit 3 years ago
Have you ever thought that the words of the Bible are exact words from the Lord, that he used through his people to convey his message to the world and told the author of Genesis to say it this way, telling him that you don't understand now, but you will later when your in heaven.
thecamster08 3 years ago
Yes. I use to think the words of the Bible were exact words from God. Frankly bcz someone TOLD ME to think that.
Have YOU ever thought the words of the Bible are exactly what they tell you they are on the side? A VERSION!
I only deal with ... THE FACTS! ♣
ChurchBandit 3 years ago
Hello, I watched your video series 1 - 9. I have been teaching Biblical Hebrew for 20+ yrs and I must say that I like your video presentations, but the content and conclusions are very wrong as a whole and this comes from your lack of Biblical Hebrew. The lack of understanding of Hebrew grammar, tenses, roots etc. the videos have many mistakes, wrong conclusions and mistranslations. Plus you seem to be working with a western logic not the period Hebrew logic and understanding of those days.
RRAA117 2 years ago
RRAA
I just love it when people think they can diagnos some one else's lack of biblical Hebrew - especially without presenting any ALTERNATIVES.
FYI - this Presentation is for NOVICES to encourage them to DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH beyond what the Video presents.
ChurchBandit 2 years ago
I Thank you for your response, I will be glad to give you the truth not an alt. I do believe if you put a vidio out on you tube it should be put up here with the best information possible. I did watch a GREAT Factual and Sound Biblical ALT to your video and that is by Jeff Benner. I would be happy to email you PDFs of books etc concerning biblical Hebrew and not just the STRONGS word STUDY which although good (NOT THE BEST HEBREW UNDERSTANDING) Word are commanded to STUDY Meaning DISECT THE WORD
RRAA117 2 years ago
I'm not a trinitarian, but could not they have meant trinity (in their understanding) but just not come up with the word "trinity" yet?
stevehauk 2 years ago
Hi steve
Gee. If the idea had anything to do with THREE ... how hard would it have been to come up with the word ... THREE?
ChurchBandit 2 years ago
They don't say THREE in the NT either, but my point was maybe that was what was meant without completely disclosing it when it was said "let US make....".
stevehauk 2 years ago
The concept of the trinity came well before Nicea... Jesus being the god-man was taught in the early church, well before 325 A.D.
CooFrank 3 years ago
CooFrank
Can you back that up?
SONofMADman 3 years ago
I did back it up but for some reason my comment isnt posting. Hold on.
CooFrank 3 years ago
It's older than that.
The CONCEPT of the trinity came well before Christ. There are several "trinity" like gods called "triune gods" or "triple deities". The Wikipedia article for "triple_deities" has a list of some of them.
somecomputergeek 3 years ago
Those aren't the same as the trinity, the trinity is they are all the same god. Those are just 3 different gods.
CooFrank 3 years ago
That are grouped into threes, in one form or another, just like the Christian trinity.
The actual nature is different among each one, but this three-god grouping is not new.
For instance, Vishnu is one god with three forms : Maha Vishnu, Garbhodakasayi Vishnu and Kshirodakasayi Vishnu.
In fact, Maha Vishnu is analogous to the father (creator of all energy), Garb. to the son (enters into the physical universe), and Kshirodakasayi to the holy spirit (all-pervading "Supersoul").
somecomputergeek 3 years ago
You mis understand the concept of vishnus
CooFrank 3 years ago
How so?
somecomputergeek 3 years ago
They are still 3 different people, you don't look at them and say "1 god" the other 2 came from maha
CooFrank 3 years ago
Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN SON of God, right? Doesn't that mean he "came from" God? I mean, that IS what the scripture LITERALLY says.
somecomputergeek 3 years ago
Jesus has eternally been, so have the father and the holy ghost, they are eternally one. not 3.
CooFrank 3 years ago
Wasn't the first council of Nicaea in 325 AD (or CE if you prefer)?
Why don't you add a notation?
somecomputergeek 3 years ago
somecomp
I just happened to notice, there's a notation in the Description Area.
SONofMADman 3 years ago
No, I mean a notation in the video itself, however I guess I should have looked at the description. It would be nice, however, if there were a notation in the video itself.
somecomputergeek 3 years ago
things mentioned in genesis are a disgrace to a believer,who firmly believes that God is pure and no weakness or mistakes can happen by him,God almighty will never tell people to do bad things,i,e adultry fornication,God forbid,jesus came to purify the message of God to jews but was rejected, so the jews at that time got together and created this version of bible as they liked, full of corrupted ideas,that go against the true message of purity and guidance,limits of relationships in family
peacegrip 3 years ago
this is the truth, there is two creation storys in the bible, GOD and the LORD GOD are two different people, the first creation was talking about the first creation of habitation on venus!!! and the second on earth!!!
PM ME FOR MORE INFO!!
benzkii 3 years ago
I already knew that! Cain built a city when there was only two othe people? Why was he afraisd that other would kill him, when he had the wjole world to Himself and could evade easily? The Word "Serpent" altered from a word that described a humaniod looking luminous being that performed wonders and the Serpent implied to Eve that he was an elohim.
The word "day" in the first chapters was altered from a word that means a vast amount of time. Adam was created on the Eighth Day not the sixth.
Davidweiser 3 years ago
I've been meaning to ask someone ...
Was "God" a "Serpent" too?
GoStealthOnEm 3 years ago
MAGNIFICENT!
SONofMADman 3 years ago
Very well done!
OutrLiimitz 3 years ago
good videos, confusing but something to pass the time i suppose
capodastaro 3 years ago
ok.
BurnTheBlue 3 years ago
Wow, it seems everyones an expert on the subject. im so impressed :O yawn
BurnTheBlue 3 years ago
Expert? Where. All I see are perceptions including my own. My post was to a comment made on page 8 or so and ended up on top of AlchemicalAscendancy making it appear as if my comment was to that person. It was not. Everything seems based on perception. Is a bee's vision true vision or is a humans? Is Jesus, Venus, and Lucifer one and the same? It's all in how one perceives it. "We're all mad here."~ Cheshire Cat
joderijoderi 3 years ago
joderi
Puff, Puff, Pass ... Puff, Puff, Pass ...
daWiiZarD 3 years ago
THE SIMPLE TRUTH IS THAT ENGLISH IS HEBREW, IN IT'S ALPHANUMERICAL REVERSE! HEBREW reads, Right to Left, &
English reads Left to Right. This has serious implications on our brain cognition, especially our Intuitive & Spiritual portions of the Brain. Hebrew is the ONE True G_D'S, or rather Y_DS Holy Language. What or who's does that make the AssBackwards English language? Pardon my French, hehe:)
AlchemicalAscendancy 3 years ago
A very interesting position. But, Hebrew is the ONE True (God's) Language or that they are God's Chosen People is HEBREW PROPAGANDA. No one else shared the view. Especially, all the races the Hebrew murdered TO CLEANSE the land that they (Hebrews) claimed, God (or better yet - THEIR God) promised to them.
OutrLiimitz 3 years ago
Who's Con-ing who?
underwuld 3 years ago
Don't Americans worship the one & only true God?
joke
daWiiZarD 3 years ago
Very nice - Great humor!
UncleFesterFrump 3 years ago
Also, those older versions provide more details ... like, "the name of the Serpent" that spoke to the woman.
tomahawkone 3 years ago
According to History, it all began with the Sumerians. Then, later the Akkadians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Phoenicians , Egyptians = from which finally emerged, the Hebrew. And each one added their own TWIST (& Characters) to the stories.
The Greek/Roman Empires were no different. They produced the LATIN BIBLE - a compilation of Hebrew OT & Greek NT books translated in LATIN.
HISTORIEANS believe JESUS was INVENTED by the GREEKS! He appears in NO OTHER WRITINGS!
CambricFinish 3 years ago
Nice vid, I have contemplated much of the same. I also find it interesting that during Sumerian times they seemed to have a similar story of creation. I personally feel that religion is a campfire story that got out of hand and every one put their own twist on it.
shizzle5150 3 years ago
Once the Gospel hit Europe (back in 1AD), the Religious Powers-that-Be'd took complete advantage of the idea!
Once they got their hands on every ancient Eastern religious scroll imaginable, they chose the EASIEST ONES to EDIT & TWEAK to CONFORM to THEIR OWN IDEAS & DEMONIZED ALL OTHERS! They called their idea - CHRISTIANITY.
Which, btw, was designed to INTIMIDATE, OPRESS & TERRORIZE the unsuspecting COMMON PEOPLE into OBEYING CHURCH AUTHORITY, w/o question!
UncleFesterFrump 3 years ago
Your level of understanding is AMAZING!!!
bubbledumm 3 years ago
Great work. You sound like a fellow Nuwaubian.
I like what you're doing. keep up the good work. heard anything lately about Pops?
Jay
JerryGreen26 3 years ago
nice video churchbandit ;) hope u keep making them :D
AxelDerRaven 3 years ago
This is a great video! (purely content) It is nice to see others on the same wavelength. I came to these conlusions with out your input. Keep up the good work towards our true salvation and freedom.
ocramnodroc 3 years ago
Glad to see this Series is still busy!!!
SpyderMahn 3 years ago
The oldest culture known to man, the Sumerians, invented "writing." "Genesis" is the English version of the much older Hebrew "Bershîth (or something like that)" ... which is their version of the Sumerian texts (probably adapted from the Egyptian version, too).
The Sumerians had 7-Tables that described Creation. The English version is 7-days that describe Creation.
KanadaDry 4 years ago
The most EVIL PEOPLE on this planet are of the RELIGIOUS PERSUASION! They believe that their own SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS is a LICENSE to MISTREAT OTHER PEOPLE!
KanadaDry 4 years ago
So ... do you mean to say that the BIGGEST CON OF THEM ALL IS ... RELIGION?
Daaammm!
BaadSiide 4 years ago
Hi Baad
There is a Latin Cliche' that says:
SO DARK THE CON OF MAN. ♣
ChurchBandit 3 years ago
There was actually an explanation that a rabbi I kind of know gave about that jealous god thing but I forgot it and it's probably bs.
jdooz121 4 years ago
who is god talking to. i like that. is the lord paranoid.
a whole lot of 'em. or a whole lot of us.
nice work. make them think.
peace
johnnierah 4 years ago 3
intresting stuff. makes u think :P
D413373R 4 years ago
Thanks D. That is the only goal of this Video Series! ♣
ChurchBandit 4 years ago
uhmmm all of what you got so far is good points, but the first council of nicaea as far as i researched was 325 CE(AD) not BCE(BC)
tyrhermod 4 years ago
Thanks tyrhermod
The error is duly noted in the About This Video section.
ChurchBandit 4 years ago
Hi neil
Thanks for your response. But I am not sure what it is in response to. This Video is about "God" .. not "Satan." But I am familiar with Elaine Pagel. ♣
ChurchBandit 4 years ago
I was refering to a much older comment. Mine would have made more sense if it would have showed up where I thought it was going to. Sorry about that.
neil134 4 years ago
Oh yeah. I may have made Comments re: Satan.
There is the Hebrew "Satan (sah-TAHN)" & the Latin "Satan (SAY-tahn)." These r 2 entirely different concepts. But ppl do not know of them nor how 2 distinguish between them.
The Latin (i.e. a fallen Angel; God's Nemesis; Leader of a host of Evil Spirits) is often presumed. But the Hebrew scriptures never speak of such a concept. Christianity has a tendency to FORCE this idea in the Old Testament. ♣
ChurchBandit 4 years ago
According to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by his blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance.1Peter.1,2
=3-in-One(again)interesting?
moob744 4 years ago
Hi moob
Once again, r u muttering what someone told u 2 think? THE TRINITY was dreamt-up by t/1st Century Church of Rome. Who, btw, produced t/Epistles. The Epistles were written at least 50-years PRIOR 2 THE GOSPELS! But I bet u think they were written n/t sequence they appear in THE BIBLE. Ergo, X-AMOUNT OF YEARS AFTER the Gospels!
ChurchBandit 4 years ago
Prior 2/t TRINITY CONCEPT, "God the Father," referred 2: FATHER OF THE GODS! Or, LEADER! Or, RULER! Greeks historically believed n/a RACE OF GODS! As did ancient cultures that preceeded them. Especially, the Hebrews! In Jeremiah 44:17-19,25, they even worship THE QUEEN OF HEAVEN! But SHE did not fit n/t Roman Church's agenda!
U R PROGRAMMED 2 THINK "TRINITY!"
ChurchBandit 4 years ago
Wasn't the Queen of Heaven a term Semiramis was dubbed?
benjeicher 4 years ago
Ridiculous! you answer your own question!(oh dear,yes,the trinity)At Nicea,what Christians already believed was ratified.You contradict yourself when you say that the Jews were monotheistic,regardless,the Inspired Word still says there is a plurality!Because you deny the AUTHORITY of Scripture you congratulate yourself too soon!
moob744 4 years ago
Hi moob744
Have you ever done ANY RESEARCH on JEWISH HISTORY (or the HOLY TRINITY) of your own? Or, are you merely voicing what you have been TOLD TO THINK? ♣
ChurchBandit 4 years ago
Moob, the whole damned thing is a crock of shit. I fell for it too, until I was about 10 or 11 years old. Boy, I'll tell you...I had Jesus tucked up tight and I now can't believe how naive I was. Once the blinders come off, everything starts to make sense. Best of luck. Just keep on THINKING, is all I can say. Knowledge is the enemy of Christianity.
zideffil 4 years ago
There's the difference,I came to faith at 26 after 10yrs-or-so looking at every kind of belief/unbelief...Christianity was the last place I was going to look!(I thought)No indoctrination,and my "investigations"continue,I LOVE knowledge/search for truth,hate liars/deceivers.(oops)Nothing else "worked"for me.
moob744 4 years ago
Hey moob
TRUTH is only WHAT U THINK (or decide) IT IS! Ergo, what ever form of Christianity u were taught 2 believe .. is true. But SANTA CLAUS is just as real to children. Be that as it may, this research is based on DOCUMENTED FACTS that ANYONE can look up! THAT is the ULTIMATE TRUTH!
ChurchBandit 4 years ago
Hi AnaL
In Job, a character named SATAN (sahw-TAHN [Hebr] ... not SAY-tan [Latin]), THE ADVERSARY (who roamed t/earth observing, questioning, challenging) along w/t sons of God came b4 THE LORD 2 pay their respects.
This is a PEACEFUL ENCOUNTER. This Satan IS NOT t/"evil enemy of God" that t/Latin Church made up 1000s of yrs after Job was written. Job gives no indication that "Satan" or the "Sons of God" r evil beings. YOU ONLY ASSUME THAT YOURSELF & FORCE THAT IDEA n2t story.
ChurchBandit 4 years ago
You're almost right. Satan in the Hebrew was a generic term for angelic beings with the sole purpose of challenging humans. The first mention of one of these "satans" is actually found in the book of Numbers where Balem's donkey starts talking. The oposing angel is actually refered to as a satan only because he is standing in the path of Balem. Look it up in a Strong's concordinance if you don't believe me.
ref. The Origin of Satan by Elane Pagels
neil134 4 years ago
DO any of u relise that the first creation of man was oon the sixth day,the second creation of ADAM and eve were on or after God had rested on the sabath or seventh day.
juglord 4 years ago
You can draw all kinds of conclusions based on the literal English text. But the original Hebrew text says something completely different. So, it is up 2/t individual ... ACKNOWLEDGE t/orig text or IGNORE it. But ignoring it DOES NOT make the English version, true. Its called VERSION 4/a reason.
ChurchBandit 4 years ago
If this so-called God created heaven and earth then why do scientist keep trying to figure out why we here? The search reinforces that no God exist. God is unbelievable
Kdeyaktn 4 years ago
There is a very good chance that GOD is merely a PERSONIFICATION 4 explaining various concepts of ANCIENT SCIENCE 2 primitive minds. No different than how children learn on shows like Sesame Street, Barney, etc.
ChurchBandit 4 years ago
That is one hypothesis,however,once an individual has a personal experience of the alleged Personification,it is always better than mere human speculation.These are not mere matters of argument,but of actual truth and reality.We have only ONE LIFE in which to "get it right!"
moob744 4 years ago
Are u absolutely sure beyond all reasonable doubt that "YOU GOT IT RIGHT?" We r all free to interpret our experiences any way we choose. But THAT is ALL it is!
As children, we had PERSONAL EXPERIENCES while believing in SANTA CLAUS. At least, those who did (believe in Santa). People in EVERY RELIGION has PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. Which is why they SWEAR UP & DOWN that GOD is part of their religion.
ChurchBandit 4 years ago
If the bible is fake why has all the prophecies from the O/T come true & 2nd why are alot of the prophecies from the N/T coming to past! Because your blind & ignorant! The last time I posted a comment it didn't show, makes me wonder if you know your working for SATAN or not, you obviously didn't want anybody to see my comments. Your manipulative and you'll pay some day, or u gonna shove my comment under the rug again. I pray for your ignorance 2b lifted from yr blind eye's amen.
sesastian 4 years ago
Hi sesastian
Please elaborate ... Exactly which OT prophecies have come true? What NT prophecies hv come 2 past?
FYI: SATAN is ficticious. There is no SATAN n/t orig.Hebr scripts. This LATIN concept was ADDED by t/1st Century Church of Rome (now, t/Roman Catholic Church). Hebrews knew nothing about LATIN concepts ... which came n2 existence abt 5000 yrs later.
ChurchBandit 4 years ago
I am well aware f/t original Sumerian texts. If anything, one purpose of these Vids s/2 show how similar the Hebrew & Sumerian texts actually are. But feel free to share any info
ChurchBandit 4 years ago
compelling arguements, altough i must let you know the holy trinity doesnt exist...it was Jesus that was with God in the beginning. God was a jealous God yeah, but it wasnt because there were more "gods" there were just really dumb people who believed if they made a statue out of clay it would help them so he got kinda pissed off at that idea.
AnaLetixoxo 4 years ago
Hi AnaL
How do u know any of what u say is "factual" VS "speculation?"
ChurchBandit 4 years ago
because i have been in 3 bible studies, all of different religious backgrounds. i am basing what i say from what i HEARD... :-)..care to responf if you want....butif you offend me you are just waisting your time...
AnaLetixoxo 4 years ago
Hi AnaL
I'm not trying 2 offend u. I just want 2 know where u get your info. Bible Studies (@ least traditional 1s) teach "their own perspective" of these scriptures. This Video Project explores THE ORIGINAL HEBREW VERSIONS of these Scriptures.
ChurchBandit 4 years ago
yes i know thats y i watched them lol they good they say some stuff i learned...nd some not..
boxingcbr600 4 years ago
Sponsored by a big church in London, they began to search all the city's from the old testament around the 1880's. They found all of them except 3. In those city's they found libraries. In those libraries they found the original story of genesis. This original Sumerian version is 3000 years older then the first Jewish version. I have the translations on my profile. Are you ready to be confronted with the original version?
2012andBeyonD 4 years ago
Isn't the First Council of Nicaea was hold in 325 AD , not BC / BCE ?
Anyway, I thank for your information about the plural god. That actually goes along with Einstein idea's of God.
goodbuykiss 4 years ago
Yes. The error is noted in the "About This Video" section (upper-right).
Einstein had ideas about "God?"
ChurchBandit 4 years ago
Thx for letting me know.
About Einstein's belief in God, many Christians claim that "Even Albert Einstein believes in God" . In fact, he wrote:
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God ... If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world ..."
goodbuykiss 4 years ago
Albert Einstein, in a letter March 24, 1954; from Albert Einstein the Human Side, Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, eds., Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton University Press, 1981, p. 43.
goodbuykiss 4 years ago