GOP Talking Points on Stimlus Package Decoded

[godzilla1979]

A decent example of the tactic (using the financial crisis to push their agenda) economist Naomi Klein refers to as as the "shock doctrine"

[exposetruthwolf]

Wonderful-Now we've got the FOX guarding the HENS again! The FEDERAL RESERVE-money printers are Policing our Banks?-the FED & Greenspan & Bernanke & Geithner&SOMMERS are the VERY CRIMINALS who perpetrated the Housing Derivatives-Wall St. SCAM in the FIRST place-YOU Stupid GOVERN. PUPPETS-YOU Federal FK UPS are such PUPPETS for WALL ST. CROOKS! Can Obama say BRIBED? THE US Government is the Greatest Organ Crime & Drug Smuggler Syndacate in world today!

[sloblee]

T-Paw is full of it. He has been terrible for Minnesota and would be a awful President.

[rk92559]

Kansas, Want to verify something instead of opening your pie hole about this economist says and that economist says...open up the want ads and see how many jobs there are. I am an industrial electrician and the last time in worked Bush was still president. And I don't draw unemployment, soooo quit with the phony numbers on how many people are unemployed and how wonderful the job stimulus is. IT IS BOGUS.

[hitheresunshine]

It's funny how the guy has to reiterate his questions a lot to get a somewhat relevant answer, at best. It's all, "they said this, they said that". It's never, "This is what I think, this is my personal opinion!!"

He has to pry to get a personal opinion. XD

[rk92559]

Your full of shit douchebag. The state I live in was supposed to get 35,000 jobs with the phony stimulus...we LOST 45,000 more. So get your facts straight. I don't care what unnamed economists you were referring to. Come to my town and look in the want ads retard. There are 3..ya..3.

[hitheresunshine]

@rk92559

Which state would that be, so we can verify your claims? I'm honestly quite curious.

[gamesmaster35]

@rk92559 you tried things other than want ads.Most companies don't bother with the want ads anymore.I realize it's tough I'm currently looking for work myself but with someone with your skill at Monster alone there are several jobs for technicians and electricians in Kansas.None of them Industrial but the skills would be similar.

[MarmaladeINFP]

It's silly that conservatives criticize govt as just being a waste of money. By GOP logic, capitalists, CEOs, bankers, stockbrokers don't make money but just waste it. The workers on the floor of the factory are the only ones who actually make anything. So, if they want to get rid of big govt, then by that logic we should also get rid of big business.

[dangerouslytalented]

Private industry = Halliburton, Blackwater, Bechtel, not the corner shop or fried chicken store or small factory making tshirts or farm.

[SkreetGil]

Yes, let's keep doing exactly what the bush administration did...it turned out so well.

[SupremePenguinTone]

JUST ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTIONS!!!

[jbwhite2007]

Cowardly, racist gutless .... my your supreme education seems to have served you well in your new job as the chief detective of the Polizia Facisti. No education?? I'll call your Texaco Tech ass. degree with advanced studies in lubes and brakes, and raise you an Oxonian. That's one of those them degrees from across the pond, Jimmy.

[SupremePenguinTone]

What do you know about my education? Squat.

But I based what I said off of some proof, the proof that you made yourself look like a jackass.

What I said proved nothing.

[stanjz]

So big business doesn't extract money from taxpayers? The government actually gives them something in return. With health insurance companies for example, you can pay for years and then get sick, and they can then find a technicality to deny you coverage.

[dangerouslytalented]

Big businesses are getting ALL KINDS of subsidies, for moving to a state, or not moving away from a state, and agricultural subsidies, and big fat juicy no bid contracts...

[jbwhite2007]

You're not a happy person carrying the whole weight of the economy on your shoulders, are you? lazy welfare blacks, hardworking whites, ape homeboys and ragheads. I see you' ve been using the nice new colouring book Roger Ailes sent you. Colouring isn't a typo, embcile. So, I guess the Mexicans getting $4 to cut your grass aren't hardworking enough? Fuck 'em, if they won't take $2, then back home they go. Huh?

[SupremePenguinTone]

Cowardly gutless Youtube racist with no education.

[jshooper]

just a few weeks ago cenk himself was claiming the stimulus failed....and i disagreed and was attacked for it...and called an obamabot.....now when a wide range of sources say that the stimulus is working / creating jobs.....cenk wants to jump on board the bandwagon and attack the clown ass republicans....sorry TYT....you can't have it both ways...at least not with me

[dangerouslytalented]

Parts of it are working, parts of it are not. The bits that are not, are those aimed at corporate America, like the money propping up banks.

[meccaturbo]

@jshooper That's okay. You're an idiot too so who gives a fuck what you think. Fucking moron.

[forgetititititit]

What does he mean whne he wants to cut 'payroll taxes'?

Are payroll taxes a tax on the fact a business has a payroll, or are they taxes that that the business deducts from the income of its employees?

I am pretty sure they are the latter, and they are therefore an income tax.

Ergo, cutting income taxes automatically cuts 'payroll taxes'.

Many people, however, seem to consider them separate taxes, when in fact they are one and the same thing.

[jshooper]

what's ironic is that in the beginning cenk and liberal bloggers were trying to claim that obama was full of shit for saying the stimulus would save or create 3 million jobs....now the numbers are coming in and OBAMA WAS RIGHT....now cenk is trying to bash the dumbass republicans for the same shit he was doing earlier

[quleughy]

More republican lobbying. No surprise here.

[GrownupPhan]

The other reason the Republicans are so hot for a payroll tax is that it will help when they want to take a chainsaw to Social Security in a few years. It will specifically make the time until there's a problem with cash flow come sooner. Meanwhile, the surplus that's been coming in has been diverted off for useless military spending for decades.

[13lackLight]

Am I missing something?

Why do Republicans bash the stimulus bill when they are the ones who created it? I mean I understand the political reasons, such as making it appear that Obama is responsible for more spending and increasing deficit and stuff, but are there any REAL reasons that I'm missing?

[GrownupPhan]

You're mixing up the TARP bank bailout with the stimulus. Republcans created the need for the stimulus by wrecking the economy with their deregulation & other disastrous policies, but most of them did vote against the stimulus.

[MRmattconnell]

cyoohoos is right, and i hope we run out of money because if we start a draft i am heading to canada ASAP!

[ipxzor]

Wow reduce capital gains tax....

So all the trust fund kids can sell their daddy's assets tax free and buy more hookers and cocaine.

Who do you think these proposals help? Sure as hell not you.

[fullyloaded2004]

does anyone now were ana is?

[refuckulate420]

who cares what that dumb slut is doing.

[driverain2]

They always have on the prettiest panties but you can always smell that rotton elephant ass............

[zacky89]

They Want Obama To Fail

Republicans have done a brilliant job

to let Obama fail,

because they obstruct and vote against everything, even their own proposals.

Thats how they play the politics game

Obama is weak still trying to get bipartisanship.

just look what happened to Scott Brown

no Republican dare to vote in favour of anything from Obama.

[arialatom]

@tehant1liberal

having your money sitting in a fault doesn't help the economy.

[jbwhite2007]

A fault? Did you mean vault? I hope so.

[arialatom]

lol, typo

[AnotherAgnostic]

You actually believe your own bullshit.

[1nomadic]

tehant1liberal-

Fiction can be fun...

[nrunde]

Every? or do you dismiss one's that don't agree with you.

[Richardgwm]

Every objective economic indicator performs better under Democratic presidents than under Republican presidents. EVERY ONE.

[nrunde]

Every? See Above.

[Richardgwm]

EVERY ONE:

GDP, stock returns, job growth, income growth, budget deficits, and on and on.

EVERY objective economic indicator performs better under Democratic presidents than under Republican presidents.

These are facts.

[meccaturbo]

@Richardgwm That is not true. The Carter administration comes to mind as a case where you're dead wrong. Get the facts right, you fucking moron.

[Richardgwm]

@meccaturbo You do understand the weaknesses of anecdotal evidence don't you?

By the way, Jimmy Carter is the King of job creation. The labor market grew faster during the Carter years than during any other US president. I DO have the facts.

[meccaturbo]

@Richardgwm You're a typical idiot libtard who invents history instead of sticking to the facts. If you have facts of Carter being the king of job creation, then hand over the facts. Until you do so, your opinion means NOTHING. You're a retarded moron, too stupid to see politics objectively.

[Richardgwm]

@meccaturbo Average annual job growth under Carter was 3.11% That compares to just 2.42% under Clinton and 2.04% under Reagan. You can find the job growth data at the US Bureau of Labor Statistics website. These are objective facts. Not opinion. Not spin. Facts.

By the way, average annual real GDP growth under Carter was 3.2%. That compares to 3.3% under Reagan and 3.6% under Clinton. Again, these are objective facts from the Bureau of Economic Analysis.

The economy performed well under Carter

[meccaturbo]

@Richardgwm You have provided NO facts other than to cite a bunch of numbers. Provide the exact web link, because until you do that, your arguments mean NOTHING.  Losers like you cite "hey it's from this website" but you're too narrow minded and stupid to send the exact link. Show us the dirt, you fucking douchebag.

[Richardgwm]

@meccaturbo Reality is indifferent to your unwillingness to accept it. I have provided you sources.

[meccaturbo]

@Richardgwm No you have not. Anyone can lie and say "this office put out a report that says this", and have it not be true. I searched for your data, and I'm coming up empty handed. As usual, you're wrong....you've supplied no actual information directing someone where to get the back-up info for your arguments. The truth is, you don't have an argument...Carter was not the master of job creation.  Do a better job on your research, retard.

[MrChunkylover53]

Trickle down economics.The rich get to piss on everyones leg and tell us its raining.

[AnotherCuppaCoffee]

How come the Bush tax cuts did not prevent the greatest economic crash in the Us since the Great Depression?

[eeedel]

PRECISELY. When I bring that up people either get quiet and dont say anything OR they start talking about socialism. Insanity.

[akfak0retlaw]

The CBS morning show did a great story about workers wages this week. Since the mid 70's worker productivity rose like 75% but wages only went up 4%. Completely shattered the myth that Republicans have been talking about for years with trickle down economics and how wealth for the uppers class translates to more and better jobs for middle and lower class.

[NewYorkCityUSA7]

Another phoney politician who won't answer a question directly.

[CmdrTobs]

"rag heads" "ape" ...I got your game. Your one of those stupid cunts, aren't you? I'm replying only because I find it the apex of hilarity that you expect anyone to read past the 2nd sentence, never mind taking any of your stupid points seriously.

Why would you write something so insane that nobody would read? Is something actually wrong with you? Mentally?

My eye just caught the word "embcile" at the end of your post. Stupidly and ironically misspelt ofc. It just underlines how dunce you are

[trajan74]

And, i may add, the 2 percent difference in unemployment is far closer to truth, than any of the Iraq predictions made by the Bush Criminal Cabal.

[trajan74]

Cheney said we'll be greeted as liberators, that lasted for 10 minutes. Then 88 percent of Iraqies said killig Americans was justified.

Rumsfeld said he doubted the operation in Iraq would last 6 months, 6 years later here we are.

Cheney said the insurgency was dying and soon after a quasi-civil war started.

Bush said oil will pay for the war.

If we applied the right's logic of retreat because of bad predictions on Iraq as the stimulus, we should've left Iraq 5 years ago.

[refuckulate420]

Yea well all that is meaningless now. We need to finish what we started there. I think Obama is doing it the right way.

[cyoohoos]

The only way these wars will be finished is when the US runs out of money or we start a draft. These wars were designed to shift US tax dollars to defense contractors and corrupt regional governments of corrupt nations. Nothing more. There will never be peace and there will never be progress. We'll leave when ExxonMobile and Blackwater no longer deem it profitable.

[refuckulate420]

Haha well you are a negative one aren't you.

[audadvnc]

Tim Pawlenty clearly doesn't care about Minnesota's economic situation - he's GOP talking head #8, with a new super-conservative facelift courtesy of CPAC. But his new false face has no connection with voters here.

[beatsbytheory]

@audadvnc--Your damn right, he's going to jump on the bash Obama bandwagon right into November. Notice how he danced around answering the questions knowing that stimulus package helped pay for the Crosstown construction and saved/created jobs. Kiss ass Pawlenty, your too busy running around campaigning instead of redistributing the funds to create these jobs you speak of. Business got over 50 billion in tax cuts on top of loan initiatives- STOP LYING PAWLENTY!

[audadvnc]

By the way, Governor - who paid for that beautiful new bridge at St Anthony Falls in Mpls - the one that replaced the collapsed 35W bridge? It cost $235 million - and seems to me a lot of that money came from the Federal gov't. Are you saying we shouldn't have a new bridge, that we should all take Hennepin Avenue, or go 20 miles out of our way and come up through St Paul?

Toss a 9-iron thru the Governors mansion window - for Freedom!

[Mplay1983]

Bush tax cuts lost MILLIONS of jobs, STUPID!!!!

[TheGiantRobot]

Oh, a Republican who wants to cut payroll tax?! Nail him on that one. How I wish.

[TheGiantRobot]

Oh, the corporate payroll tax, not ours. Figures.

[Roninlord25a]

funny Ramking says Goldman Sachs runs our country and gives money to the Dems....Sachs head and board members are Republican just like most of the Fortune 500 companies just about all those companies leaders are Republican. Yes they give money to Democrats through lobbiest just like they do For the Republicans.

[stoneybologni89]

Why do you have an ad for visa if you don't support the credit card companies?. I mean, yea its cool but its obviously for a credit card. I support you guys but c'mon WTF.

[spleenblender]

They don't control the ads.

[Obstbaum1337]

extend the bush tax??? wtf hes nuts

[dEdGrimley]

Does anyone ever wonder if becoming a Republican politician means that you have to enter into some sort of mind-meld program where everyone needs to be brought into the singular pool of thought?

[CmdrTobs]

Basically,

guardian(dot)co(dot)uk/world/2­003/aug/13/usa(dot)redbox

[TheUnion5]

Good job, Cenk.

[frictionRx5]

HAHA!

since Obamba's stimulus has successfully killed all the small businesses I guess after cheating their way thru college all the liberals can get a cool government job being my new mailman or working at my local DMV.

HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

[johnedwards1968]

@frictionRx5 Bush's tax cuts lead the US from 1st place in GDP/ capita in the world to 10th place! Where do you see the success in that?

[NDstephan]

Less than a mile from my home there is a bridge project being done by a local construction company. (125 jobs)

Within 15 miles; 17 construction jobs (2523 jobs) all local small-business companies.

Well, I guess if you can't debate the facts just lie, lie, lie. Fear, fear, fear.

FYI I work in a mail distribution center, I make good money and have great benefits. The education level of people where I work? High school grads working through college.

[RAMKING61]

For the ignorant(like Cenk):

1) 70% of the economy is small business

2) 10 of the 18 wealthiest congressmen are democrats(2008) John Kerry #1

3) Goldman Sachs runs our country. Read the new March Rolling Stone article by Matt Taibbi.

4) Goldman Sachs has given more money to democrats than republicans for 20 years! (opensecrets org orgs summary)

5) In a research study by Intuit Corp.;

98 percent of small businesses have NOT received any money as a result of the stimulus plan.

[johnedwards1968]

@RAMKING61 LINK?

You conservatives have a disturbing past of pulling numbers out of your ass!

[RAMKING61]

2)Rollcall dot youknow (50 richest)

3)Rolling Stone magazine March 2010

4)OpenSecrets

5)Intuit Corporation

All facts with sources listed.

They teach you about #1 in any business class....it's probably higher with all the layoffs last year.

[StinkyThePink]

RANKING61

1) Consumer spending drives 70% of the U.S. economy.

2) 10 of the "20" wealthiest congressmen are democrats. So it's split, why would you distort information?

3 & 4) I wouldn't waist my time looking into this with your history distorting information to prove your misguided points.

5) Intuit Corp "research study" was a "survey" that took place in June 2009. Again why do you distort information?

[johnedwards1968]

@StinkyThePink

Thanks! I knew his "facts" were questionable! lol

[RAMKING61]

5) You HAVE to go back in time to evaluate any stimulus package.

Your other points are pointless.

[StinkyThePink]

RANKIN61

I believe the word you wanted to use was validate. (not evaluate)

My original response to you never involved a validation of the stimulus package, nor did I use a different point of time you presented. I merely pointed out your use of misinformation. Now, I ask you again, why do you feel the need to distort information? If you must use inaccuracies to prove your point, is your point worth fighting for?

[CmdrTobs]

lol, Cenk has explicitly said all of that. You can't "give" money to small business they simply can't complete large infrastructure projects..... but building a new bridge or bypass can bring more custom and tourism to a community. Also the tax breaks for anyone under 250K is implicitly for small business as well.

BTW whats wrong with being rich per se? That's Republicans strawman about what democrats are angry about. Nobody is angry at people who are rich, just angry at those who exploit.

[RAMKING61]

"Let's make the rich richer...because that's what the republican party really stands for." - Cenk

[newdarnaccount]

Do you need a doorstop? I'm good at that.

[johnqpublic81]

I completely agree. The consolidation of wealth in this country is scary.

[crazycarnypoptart]

ok he said that not doing card check would help the economy. I don't get that

[CmdrTobs]

The way he mentions capital gains.... lol how does that help small business. There base must simply not know what that is. They just hear "tax" and assume they are paying it.

[needparalegal]

Cenk, your analysis is better than anyone on TV.

[korrdxl]

And the Democrats aren't for making the rich even richer? Seen where Obama's campaign contributions have come from? Seen the lobbyists on the White House guest list? Democrats and Republicans will continue to rob from the poor and unborn and give to the rich.

[zetanato]

Less than a year until that little asshat shuts up and gets out of the governor's office...

[orientrat]

Pawlenty is stupid. Stimulus spending doesn not all count as transfer payments. A lot of it factors into GDP, especially infrastructure spending, but the Republicans blocked that didn't they? Even the parts that do not count directly into GDP will most likely count indirectly. All those new govenrment workers have to spend their salaries don't they?

Anyone who's taken Econ 101 knows this stuff.

[BloatedSensations]

You're failing to understand what every Republican knows to be true: When poor people get extra money, they stuff it in coffee cans and shoe-boxes and bury it in their back-yards - where it's promptly forgotten about forever. However, when rich people get extra money, they habitually fly luxury business jets over poor and middle-class neighborhoods, dropping giant bags of cash precious gems out of the windows.

Anyone who's taken Neo-Econ 101 knows this stuff.

[orientrat]

Haha yea

Too bad republicans don't know that poor people spend their money while rich people just invest it which doesn't count towards GDP

[CmdrTobs]

Lol yeah, I heard some guy say on here say "they should give tax breaks to the rich to create more business & jobs" I tried to explain the absurdity of that Republican talking point and you could tell he saw that his own point was BS. But he heard his view first now he can't go back as he has no doubt repeated this to a load of people family/friends he cannot be seen to go back as he would appear foolish.

That's the problem with people. The undue respect to what came first. The folly of Ego.

[yourmomdidsayyourean]

@CmdrTobs That needs to be printed on the fronts of all school books and put on T shirts so people see that Ethos over and over again.

Well said Commander.

[marsCubed]

@BloatedSensations

If USA had the same 'high' taxes as Europe, every working and middle class American would be $8,000 a year better off.

$12,000 during the oil boom years of Bush.

Imagine all the small businesses it could have started, the education, housing and healthcare it could have bought.

Conservatism is greed by the few who bought mega yachts in Saudi.

It's most striking feature is neglect and trashing the economy.

USA became unemployable broom pushers.

EU is robot engineers & designers.

[CmdrTobs]

Sounds interesting do you have a link for that? Or is it self calculation?

[marsCubed]

@CmdrTobs I am looking for the source for you ATM RE USA vs. EU incomes. It was Paul Krugman BTW I read it on two separate occasions so will turn up again, will PM when found. meantime you may like these which are on similar point. watch?v=akVL7QY0S8A watch?v=-KgoPIbvhg8 The argument for educated, democratic and cooperative society is overwhelming. Republicans don't serve USA, they are a cult of scams for power.. nobody else wants to kill anymore..not even bosses. it is stupid. V_lSEDa2BfQ

[BloatedSensations]

I agree with you completely. (In case you hadn't guessed, I was being facetious in my last comment) :)

[Guernicaman]

I can't believe he said extend the Bush tax cuts. Really? Wasn't that a part of the problem in the first place? And you want to EXTEND them? These Republicans must live in their own alternate universe.

[CmdrTobs]

I said that to some Repub along with the fact that Bushes tax cuts heralded the lowest increase in employment on Record. His best response was. "laffer curve"(expecting me to be blown away). I then chuckled and explained to him that is a function, not a proof. Furthermore that applying the functions implications to current economic data suggests an increase in certain taxes.

He then called me "stupid" and left it at that.

Just sums up the Repub mentality, as you said it; alternate universe.

[FightTheCorporations]

The stimulus worked for my mother. She got money to help for her COBRA insurance payments! Thanks Obama!

[LeroyJacksonJones]

The blacks and the other minorities want a big government so they can go on grape soda and crack binges at the expense of hard working white Christians and neo Pagans.

Sally Jesse Raphael has denounced Cenk Uygur as a "supporter of genocide, a spy, and a kinky homosexual".

[Ballsooker0lol]

@LeroyJacksonJones Cenk Uygur is a supporter of genocide, a spy and a kinky homosexual. you just might be one of the dumbest people ever. Have you ever heard of projection. Its when an insecure person (like yourself) projects their true feels onto others to cover how they feel. By calling Cenk Uygur (a married man) gay, you are really just letting everyone know YOUR GAY. So why don't you go suck Jesus' cock.

[LeroyJacksonJones]

Yeah, every single 18 year old who's taken Psych 101 starts babbling endlessly about projection every time someone says something bad about other people. It's boring, and you're just one of another 184309434353453 kids to go on about projection.

Homosexuals use it almost exclusively whenever someone calls one of them a fag. But really, I was just quoting Sally, pal.

[Ballsooker0lol]

Dude i don't give a shit who you quote, or where you think i learned about projection. Everyone reading this still thinks your a homo and soon enough you'll realize it to. And don't worry i am sure a few of your christian buddys are also in the same boat so you'll do just fine.

[codewarrior05]

What you forget about is long term capital is important to business. No investment in the United States, no economic growth. People won't make investments in America if they think a majority of the profits will be taxed. Bottom line is we need a smaller and much leaner government. Dems and Reps both want bigger government.

[Dradeeus]

Hm. If he gave, say, the supermarket I work at, a ton of money, as he's suggesting. They're going to buy more automatic kiosks, computer automated ordering, new technology that will, ironically, make large CUTS to their workforce.

As a corporation, it's their prerogative to look for ways to cut full-time employees out of the equation and save money in the long run. I see it every day.

[LeroyJacksonJones]

I hate to see so many young Americans tempted by this Satan. This show host is a committed Muslim who is under investigation by the FBI. He pretends to be agnostic but has ties to CAIR and to Hamas. He is a Turkish Muslim, and a dangerous fool. Not surprisingly, he supports the Democrats.

In the name of Jesus, repent, lest ye spend eternity in a lake of fire. Turn away from this Muslim nigger, and embrace the Holy Ghost. Holy, holy, Jesus, bless these foul youth. Cast out Satan!

[D1Ramrod]

You make me want to convert, no matter if TYT is a Muslim group or not... it doesn't matter.. They give the news how they want, and people watch it.. just take it and shut up

[LeroyJacksonJones]

Just take it and shut up? Is that what your father says, young sinner? Ye, who were born out of thy mother's asshole, repent lest you sizzle on the griddle of Beelzebub for eternity. Filthy, cast out his demons!

[fazetti]

@LeroyJacksonJones

Get a room.

[Mercutioswrath]

@LeroyJacksonJones

Satan is irrelevant.

[LeroyJacksonJones]

Satan is lying to you on this very video. Look at the black, dirty eyes, the lies about economics, the brown skin, the grease in its hair. Look above, and watch a video of Satan lying to you.

[Ballsooker0lol]

@LeroyJacksonJones Man it really sounds like Cenk is turning you on.  Are you sure your not really projecting your gayness, cause it looks like that to everyone else.

[oXGenesisXo]

@LeroyJacksonJones

lolol what the fuck? Do you have any evidence at all to back this up??

No, didn't think so. Youll just spout out and believe whatever your want without any evidence. no wonder your a christian.

[LeroyJacksonJones]

If you want to hear belief spouted out without any evidence, all ye need do is look above, into the eyes of the black-skinned Satan Turk above. His evidence is MSNBC. Mine is the way, the power, the light, and the sword of Jesus and Horatius. I pray to Hercules too.

[Athiest2009]

@LeroyJacksonJones Hes a Turk? That is your reasoning. I fear for those who have to deal with you on a daily basis. Take your Jesus to an Evangelical orgy and get the fuck out of a smart mans form,

[LeroyJacksonJones]

You've given me two contrary directions. You've told me to leave a "smart mans form" which I assume is this room, and you've told me to go to a Christian orgy. I have no smart man's forUm to leave, so I can't leave.

[Athiest2009]

Oooooo found a typo, feel proud do you. Suck Pat Robertsons dick, fucktard.

[LeroyJacksonJones]

You should have put a question mark after, "do you". You're a real fool. You're so smart that you understand that there's no such thing as a supernatural god (wow, that takes some brains to figure out, duh huh!), but you are illiterate. Amazing.

You can suck both Pat Robertson's dick, and Obama's smelly nightstick too. Piece of shit.

[Pegases0]

yo dawg, learn to speak 21th century.

also dont you think you're a little old for imaginary friends

[soundping]

Obama has already given a tax cut to 95% of Americans.

[xxxDirge]

@Zander73

This is correct. The GOP are blocking our country from progress to regain power in the white house by any means regardless of the poeople . Any leftist and any centrist can see this. Left + center = majority, and we as a people need to use this.

[myentourage]

you are both right but that biggest problem is the dems are allowing it to happen. The dems need to man up, use their majority & just pass laws they want. No matter what the dems want to do the repubs are against it. So instead of trying to be nice, fuck them & just do what you need to, to get laws passed. When Bush was president he passed so many laws b/c the dems backed down. Now we have the power & we are still backing down. Enuf already bull doze through what you want. Worry about 2012 later

[xxxDirge]

I agree here also. The democrats lack balls. Between republican greed and a demacratic lack of balls the people are caught in the middle, thus we are the ones who have to figure this out and vote for our best inerests. At the current rate the best we MIGHT have to hope for is voting in Ron Paul (Libertarian, too close to rebub for comfort, but at leat we get common sense drug reform).

[Pyr01]

TYT is hiring !? i will sweep ur floors and wash ur cars

[onlywinter]

Great analysis, Cenk!

[whoo689]

If you're gonna talk "tax cuts for the rich" focus on shit that REALLY helps the rich, not just slightly or a mere percentage more than the middle class gets.

[whoo689]

Why do you guys keep ranting on about the bush "tax cuts for the rich"? If you're referring to the income tax cuts, you're full of shit. EVERY tax bracket got a cut! Not just the rich. And yes, the rich got more of a tax cut, but it was a mere 1 or 2%! 1-2% is not that much. And even if it is a "tax cut for the rich", compared to what? Certainly not compared to REAGAN'S tax cuts. Now THOSE were more accurately 'tax cuts for the rich.' Yet you guys bitch about a mere 1-2% extra with bush.

[Sportspaz2009]

"And even if it is a "tax cut for the rich", compared to what? Certainly not compared to REAGAN'S tax cuts. Now THOSE were more accurately 'tax cuts for the rich.' Yet you guys bitch about a mere 1-2% extra with bush."

I think it's mostly because the majority of people have already been brainwashed to worship reagen, so it would be much harder to use him as a focus point.. and it's farther in the past.. kinda like " oh, well too late"

[DAK4Blizzard]

This video supports my belief that all Americans going through public education should be required to take at least one economics course in high school.

Many people who have little knowledge of government and economics will listen to and agree with the message this Republican is giving, even if they wouldn't agree with it after they hear Cenk's explanation of what the Republican is actually saying.

[USB06]

there was tax cut included in stimlus bill and still republicans oppose it. I'm not talking about 1% or 2% tax cut, it was around 37%

[xxxDirge]

"Lets make the rich richer,cuz thats what the republican party really stands for"

That sums up alot.

[P1ranh4]

I don't know. Surely Cenk is right with his analysis, but reducing taxes on businesses in general is not a bad idea, considering that they'll create more jobs and can finance innovation. Now I don't trust the free market to do this and I strongly believe that free market ends up exploiting workers and producing dangerous, bad-quality and cheap products, which only regulations and taxes can prevent.

So it all comes down to trust in the free market or the government.

[xxxDirge]

@P1ranh4

I agree.

A business only exists to do one thing: make profit. The cornerstone of economics. Can we trust our businesses to make the right decisions for our people? Fuck no. Everything from medical insurance to wal mart has shown us that. Our government can be controlled by its people, a corporation cannot.

[P1ranh4]

Exactly, capitalism sets the right incentives, by rewarding better services and products, thus furthering efficiency and innovation. That's where government influence can fuck up the system badly.

On the other hand, pure profit-making is also bad. Businesses are optimized for the quick fix in profits. We can see this in the banks in the US. TYT had some interesting guests recently to fix those problems in the companies so the decisions are better in sustaining the overall business and economy.

[armonocracy]

What people have to come to realize is that "Free Market Capitalism" isn't free. Look at the price our economy has paid at the hands of the corporations who have manipulated the system w/ their money & influence over the last 30+ years.

China (a communist nation) has become one of our greatest creditors over the last few decades through our free trade policies and they've skilfully gamed the system by devaluing their currency to keep their exports viable on the open market while we suffer.

[P1ranh4]

I don't know enough about the Chinese economic decisions, but they are in a much better shape. They'll surpass Japan this year in GDP.

Knowing more about the American economy, I'm not sure that people know that the economic downturn was much less hurtful in other countries. It's not like the whole world lies in ruins at the moment.

The way the banks came out even stronger out of this collapse and everybody else is suffering, shows that the manipulation just increased inequality in the market.

[CmdrTobs]

Thing is Obama pretty much has. As a lot of small business is a contractor that earns under 250K a year. If you pay capital gains tax you can't be a small business....

Yeah I agree hole heartedly with the rest of what you say.

[Scroozin]

It doesn't matter what Obama does...they will just oppose and obstruct. Same old story with the Republicans.

[satchboogyfan]

Pawlenty wants to turn MN into TX

lots of poverty and Millionaires that profit from it.

[pbmdh]

I live in minnesota, I have no fucking clue why this dipshit is in office.

[xxxDirge]

@pbmdh

When the time comes, your vote against him will be a service to our country.

[yes4me]

ROFL... this republican can't answer the question... so let me get this right. The stimulus by the Obama is bad because all we do is transfer money around. The correct way to do it is to keep doing what Bush did? Tax cut... Whaaa? 8 years is not enough? BTW, everything, including tax cut, is about moving money around. Fire this guy. Don't elect him ever please. He is just a tool for the lobbyists.

[USB06]

job is a job