i have followed sugar shane for a long time and all i can say is what he did is out of order and i know for sure my man mayweather jr would play with him like hi did with marquez an its the truth
I'm just saying I wouldn't be to sure of Manny beating a more round skill fighter with a 3inch height advantage and a 5inch reach advantage that's all I'm saying, if your rooting for someone to beat Mayweather I would put a bet up on Mosley to give Mayweather the upset of his life.
manny doesn't have good footwork he just bounces like a bunny and he's a type of fighter that comes forward and all he has is offense and no D. May is 3 inches taller than Pacman and has a 5inch reach advantage over him and Mayweather also has quicker hand speed and much better head movement and defense than Pacman and can fight going backwards and plus Mayweather is fighting around 160 in the ring, I would put Cotto or Mosley up against Mayweather before I would Pacman.
Plenty of Opponents maybe not recently because of his decline but in his prime he KO'd alot of opponents and in my opinion Judah had much quicker hand speed than Pacman.... Say what you want.
Truth is Marquez is slow and lack power at Welterweight. He never went up north of 135 lbs. Nothing is great with Mayweather except he outboxed him. Not much power also. I am afraid Mayweather will have trouble with Pacquiao as pac carried his speed and power as he moved up ion weight. If Pac wins convingly agaist Cotto, no doubt he can win over Mayweather
you are right my friend.. Floyd does have the advantage in his favour at the same time best asset Pac to counter that is his speed.. To me it all comes down to whos style
Manny can not beat Mayweather. Because PBF was off for almost 2 years he needed togo the full 12 rounds for his own sake. Cotto or Manny will get beat. So will Mosely. Money May all Day
the fight last night was not credible enough to make a judgement of how good mayweather is.. Marquez is no longer in his comfortable weight class. If everyone says that hattons style is tailored for pac, this fight last night is tailored specially for PBF, he has the reach, weight, size advantage all over mayweathers favor written all over it. You have to be a dammn fool to miss that
But that was obvious from the second Marquez called out PBF, you'd have to be a bigger fool to have missed that.
I mean, it wasn't the expectation of anyone that it would be so one sided. Mayweather simply out smarted a very intelligent fighter, can't have missed that. I'm sorry but did you miss the defense? Please, look past the "entertainment" facade of Mayweather and look to the fucking skill man, don't be blinded.
isnt that the same thing when Pac beat DLH? It was more one-sided victory for Pac than Mayweather over JMM. Im sorry but the whole time the reach advantage was way too much for marquez to come in. If you cant see that, you are a dammn fool.
No, you see if you go back and read quotes from TRUE boxing journalists and pioneers within the sport from commentators to trainers. You will see a difinitive pattern of most being aware that DLH would come in weight drained and have an exceedingly rough time with Pacquiao.
DLH gave up, Marquez didn't, Marquez got a much worse beating, he went down and coul've been taken out at any point Floyd so chose. Marquez landed 12% of his punched! 12!!! COME ON MAN! WAKE UP!!!
What do you mean marquez got the worst beating? Look at DLH's face, it aint a face anymore... That 12% is due to their style of fighting, counter punching, analyst predicted that it will be marquez that will push the fighting instead of PBF. That number will be different if you are to put in a different type of fighter and different style... wake up man..... Styles make fight...
Pac just constantly bruised one chin, ouuuuu wooop-dee-doo! Anyone can swell up anyone's cheek with that kind of speed against someone that isn't even TRYING to fight back.
Pac's "power" scored him zero knockdowns, zero... Against a weight drained DLH, kinda surprising to be honest. Even without DLH doing much he managed to do better than 12%. I mean, again this is the dude that beat Pacquiao twice after 24 rounds, if you want to quote others, read their quotes about Marquez wins over Pacquiao.
Pac stuck to the game plan, in and out... In order for Pac to knock DLH is get hit him at a much closer range.. He had DLH few times at close range, theres one point that saved DLH from KD when he cornered around 7-8 rd, The post saved his ass.. He would have been down. Dont get me wrong JMM was pacs kryptonite in the lightweight division, but lets see now if they are to fight at 140 and above.. He will eventually get caught like Hatton with that power. marquez dont carry power.
Marquez truly beat Pacman with skill and not by power nor speed, Pacman has problems with technical sound fighters like Marquez or even a Floyd Mayweather.
I sorta agree, it could go either way it depends on how you judge it. I dont doubt pac will def get problem from pbf. At the same time Floyd has weakness with southpaw.fast and aggresive fighter eg. Judah was winning in the first half til he ran out of fuel, Hatton was winning rounds due to his aggression.. All those qualities combined could spell Mayweather trouble.
There is no way Pacman could knock down De La Hoya. You could see that in the fight. Even at close range. I have watched Marquez's whole career and he does pack power.
Look at the fight my friend, round 7 or 8, the clothesline and post saved him from going down. I agree with you in a way that JMM has KO power but not when he is going up in weight... he doesnt carry the same power as when hes a lightweight.
How can you say that when he barely landed any punches. What are you looking for? A one punch knockout. We shouldn't judge power anyway because Floyd is bigger, therefore he could take more of Marquez punches maybe.....Who knows. I actually just look at styles to judge a fight plus every punch has it's own personallity if you know what I mean.
That is just an excuse for lack of skills. Roy put on 20lbs and still won because had enough skill. JMM moved up in weight twice pryor to this fight and he still was good. He is older now, the extra weight could only benefit him. He doesn't have to worry as much about making lbs in the gym killing himself. Floyd moved up from 130lbs over the years......There is just no excuse.....Plus JMM implied himself that he is not going back to lightweight. No excuses.
it aint lack of skills, everything is in mayweathers favor and advantages that is weight class, speed, style of fight, size,reach and additional weight that he didnt agree to achieve during the weigh in.. what do you mean hes not fighting lightweight,.. theres been talks about him fighting Katsidis. There wont be anymore excuse for fighting for PBF cuz it will either be Cotto Pac or Mosley, anyone else is cherry picked again!
Ok another example my friend. Holyfield was a cruiserweight. He won the first fight against Bowe. Why??? you tell me. Weight doesn't matter plus I bet you that Marquez next fight will be at 140lbs. You put to much enphasis on wieght. If you have ever been in a fight before you would know that weight doesn't matter as much when you have skills. For your information all fighter look to be in the position to choose opponents. There are alot of lightwieghts that Manny never fought. No Excuses...
weight doesnt matter it does afighter can move up but slowly over time marquez went upfrom 126 130 135 overtime just like mayweather moved up overtime but not overnite if its just skill why doesnt floyd move up 2 weight class overnight if it dont matter
Yeah it might be easier, but Hopkins moved up 15lbs in one fight to beat Tarver.
And to answer your question Floyd won't move up two wieght classes because he doesn't have to. Look here, Marquez didn't make any excuses why should anybody else. Marquez didn't even throw any punches because he didn't know what to do. Floyd is a great fighter man. Face it.......He had the same effect on DLH, Baldomir, Gatti....... I can go on and on.
marquez didnt throw a lot of punches not because he couldnt but because he was against heavier boxer that was waiting counter punching so he knew what to do but had to be cautious against biger oponent if they were fighting at 135 marquez weight marquez would land more being less cautious but at that weight he had to be careful and same effect on delahoya mayweather did not do nothing against a past his prime delohoya
Floyd controlled the fight against DLH. Prime or no Prime who knows. What you say is all excuses and none of which are facts. DLH wasn't punching because he was frozen by Mayweather's speed and movement. It goes back to my point that they didn't have the skill to deal with Mayweather. Mayweather has been the smaller man in most of his fights just like Pernell. There is just no excuse. Marquez had a chance to be great and he fell short.
you say marquez had a chance to be great but fell short so now a fighter must beat a fighter that is 20 pounds heavier to be great if thet is the case I guess floyd will have to move up two weight clases to be great is that what you saying who beat marquez in his weight class and left no doubt in his 20 years boxingthats not great in his last two fights he knocked out fighters that had not been knocked out he did get hit clean shoots but thats because hes 36skill deminish
Enough excuses.........from 135lbs to 147 isn't 20lbs. You do the math........ If you want to make excuses for marquez and hate on floyd's accomplishments then fine. The sport will continue to be what it is and the truth will remain.......excuses doesn't get you work, money, or pussy.....Peace......
excuses if you understood boxing you would know it was at least 20 pounds yes 135 to 147 doesnt make 20 but if you see marquez manny weight in at 130 fight night they were about 145 thats 15 pounds more for a 130 why because they had time in 130 so if they gain 15 pounds at 147 a fighter easily willgain 20 pounds because thats his natural weight been there for a while thats the reason floyd did not want to weight him selt fight night and excuses why didnt floyd make the weight thats a excuse
The only thing I stated was fact I guess you cant argue facts can you the only excuses is you coming with excusesI stated facts and you cant argue facts simple as that I can argue your point you cant argue mine facts are factsso you cant defent your view point and I can
back your words my friend... to me your just riding mayweathers nuts.. all im saying is that last nights fight was all in mayweather favor.. win is a win but just like any other fights he does, its straight cherry picked.. i wanna see him fight mosley
Don't talk to me about riding nuts I didn't disrespect you. People talk really funny behind keyboards. I'm in Oakland CA. by the way. In case you want to get to know me. I like boxing not Mayweather. I just think nobody can fuck with him. Boy.
No need to act tough, I just tell the truth that your boy pbf is a straight cherry picker..Marquez fight aint a credible win, even a blind man can see that... Lets see what your boy pbf next cherry picked fight will be or will he man-up and fight mosley a real ww. By the way that was lousy boring fight AS always...
I ain't talkin tuff I'm just being real BOY! I don't hide like most people do. You see my videos my face my place and where I live. PBF is a good fighter I'm not picking him because I like him I told you that. I'm a boxing fan. I been watching boxing for many years now. Longer than you probably and I experience the ring so don't come at with this PBF shit. I don't give a fuck if someone beats him. Him losing and coming back will establish his greatness.
All im sayin is that fight was not credible win.. i dont doubt hes a good fighter. as i been saying so many times, hes been cherry pickin his fight.. i give him the win no doubt, i already knew that he was gonna win.. again he aint great to me.. SSM and Cotto are the sharks in the tank.. I wanna see PBF jump in the danger zone..
i agree, but i wont say cotto is an easy fight against pbf in ww division, with that being said, cotto vs pac is more legit fight than pbf vs jmm... but as much i wanna see pac vs pbf, i think pbf vs ssm is the legit fight that should happen. if pbf wins this fight which i have him 50/50 chance, i will def bowdown. Right now i dont think PBF has anymore cherry picking choice but to fight SSM Cotto or Pac.. Were in the era of history in a making.
Mayweather jr really is a small guy. Actully too small for welter. He's a natural 140 lb fighter. But he has the talent to beat almost everyone in the welter division but he has let ODL brainwash him with this money bullshit. Money is all he cares for not the game. guys like Mosely, Cotto, Pac Roy JOnes love the game.
i wont say hes a small ww, he walks in the ring atleast 152-4 that night. He was small at one point just like Pac but right now WW is his natural class. Theres a reason why he couldnt make the 144 limit and had to settle for 146. PBF did not want to disclose his actual weight cuz we all know it be shameful how much he blows up after weigh in, its an embarassment that all advantages to him.. Right now money is not to appealing to the fans anymore, especially with this economy.
He really is a small dude thats why he tries to fight guys smaller than him, only when he moved up to 147. At 140 and below he fought people equal his size. All I can say is money fucked up the sport.
You proved me right my friend and i do agree with u, at 140 PBF fights legit fighter in that class that was long time ago, but him being at the ww 147 lbs he fights smaller fighter which makes everyone believe that hes cherry picking his fights. Again he hasnt fought a real challenge. unlike Pac he is fighting Cotto in the ww division. To me thats a real risk for pac.
With regards to money, it will always be there, I just dont like the fact that mayweather labelled himself as the face of boxing with dollar signs all over it. Me personally i want the mayweather that just fights tough opponents not the money laundering mayweather, feel me?!
Pacquiao refused to fight Marquez again at any weight. Watch the interview where Marquez calls out Pacquiao for their third fight to his face. Never before have I seen a scared Pacman, until that interview.
Pac SHOULD be able to beat Cotto easily. Anyone with good boxing skill and speed should be able to, Cotto is WAR-TORN and doesn't clinch, so against a southpaw, he is truly fucked.
Pac hasn't brought much power up, I'm at least not convinced...
...I mean I was almost sold into the Pacman hype myself. "oh my god at his power! wow he's so powerful!". Well i've seen him fight 2 fights, both against really poor opposition (guys no longer at their peak, fucked up mentally and physically by the real #1 P$P king) - no point even mentioning DLH fight, that was simply not DLH.
He managed to knock out Hatton really fast, ok cool... Great- but he used the check-hook to do it, blueprint laid out by Mayweather's discovery in their fight....
...Hatton walked onto that final hook, he looked as if he was getting his feet grounded in the second round, even landed a nice body shot which hurt Pacquiao, but then yes... Stupidly walked into a punch, thus creating momentum against force, producing an overwhelming mirage of power.
Everyone THINKS he has crazy power now after those wins, me I'm not blind, he has speed and power, but not to the level some people imagine him to have. Cotto fight will show early his lack of this "super power".
marquez weight didnt carry at all...im sorry i dont think marquez would beat marquez at this weight he was too slow...i think mosley will walk right through mayweathers punches
oops i meant i dont think marquez would beat manny at this weight ...he was way too slow...mayweather looked real big ..bigger than he use to look...he looked he was ateast 156 or over ...what do you think
if pacquiao beats mayweather, how could u still guarantee marquez can beat pacquiao? and besides, marquez is past his prime. he didn't look good against casamayor and diaz, u think he'd look better at 140? only an idiot such as yourself wud guarantee marquez will beat pacman in a third fight.
ye 4 get da weight, all i saw was a speed and skill advantage no size or power, mayweather didnt KO him or anything so the power issue thrown out the window, floyd just outboxed him
why the fuck you wanna see pacquiao vs. marquez 3 than pacquiao vs. mayweather?? what's the point? marquez is done after this fight. he's damaged goods! if pacquiao loses to cotto we might not see him fight mayweather! DUMBFUCK!
Juan Manuel Marquez is a legend and he lost to a better fighter even if they was at a equal weight JMM would've had too many problems against Floyd, but I know for a fact JMM will beat Pacman again lol like he truly did in the last two fights in a third fight!!!
This farce was unfair to JMM if you really want to be completely honest. This is not his best weight and he's unproven at welterweight! He looks slow as molasses above 140! Manny proved he could carry the weight, retaining both his speed and power as he proved against bigger guys and there's no doubt he would've destroyed Marquez above 135. Floyd looked like a friggin middleweight in there against an old bloated lighteweight... which is the TRUTH!
Floyd way too big for Marquez....yet end up
in 12 rounds decision...i would say Floyd
should knoutout Marquez.....is that impressive?...
MRtoso36 2 years ago
Good video Bro, but I really dont want to see mayweather mosley, they are my favorite two fighters
boxingfan4 2 years ago
You are the first person I heard say that. I feel the same way.
mustaff4530 2 years ago
i have followed sugar shane for a long time and all i can say is what he did is out of order and i know for sure my man mayweather jr would play with him like hi did with marquez an its the truth
mohammed01mobeen 2 years ago
I hope Cotto beats Manny,so that we can see the Marquez rubbermatch.
I lke Marquez and It was also hard for me to see him take shots from Floyd.
Eve though I'm a Floyd fan,I have a soft spot for Marquez.I was just relieved he lasted the full fight and did not suffer too much damage.
I'm sure after this rest,he can win another Title at 140.
lemigod 2 years ago
I'm just saying I wouldn't be to sure of Manny beating a more round skill fighter with a 3inch height advantage and a 5inch reach advantage that's all I'm saying, if your rooting for someone to beat Mayweather I would put a bet up on Mosley to give Mayweather the upset of his life.
dehgrah 2 years ago
Mosley would get outboxed brother. He is not the same fighter he used to be.
Rasclot222 2 years ago
i think so too but mosley would give floyd the hardest fight
dehgrah 2 years ago
Yeah Mosely would give Floyd the best match. I think Cotto would be the easiest.
Rasclot222 2 years ago
Mayweather just made him look like that.
dehgrah 2 years ago
Me too man. I hope Marquez gets one more shot with Manny!
Good vid fam. Good to see you back
buddhaphy 2 years ago
Yes he fought a taller weight drained Oscar and and average Solis but not a Floyd Mayweather!!!
dehgrah 2 years ago
Manny does have good head movement if that's what you mean instead of foot work?
dehgrah 2 years ago
manny doesn't have good footwork he just bounces like a bunny and he's a type of fighter that comes forward and all he has is offense and no D. May is 3 inches taller than Pacman and has a 5inch reach advantage over him and Mayweather also has quicker hand speed and much better head movement and defense than Pacman and can fight going backwards and plus Mayweather is fighting around 160 in the ring, I would put Cotto or Mosley up against Mayweather before I would Pacman.
dehgrah 2 years ago
Plenty of Opponents maybe not recently because of his decline but in his prime he KO'd alot of opponents and in my opinion Judah had much quicker hand speed than Pacman.... Say what you want.
dehgrah 2 years ago
Judah has KO power lol!!!
dehgrah 2 years ago
Mosley is too BIG For floyd n pac-man he was like six feet tall in the right with floyd!
1988616 2 years ago
What the fuck are you guys talkin about!
you retards should stop this bullshit
mayweather this, mayweather that
that fag dont want to fight pacman
hes scared thats all there is to it.
hes a fuckin fag.
bayages 2 years ago
boring fight as predicted. floyd has to fight guys his own size. unimpressive
gerryboy101 2 years ago
dehgrah Right on !!!
holmes1978 2 years ago
I think Marquez was being lazy usually he's a fast muthafucker he fought like a best against pacquiao and he din't even try last night
narsisomendosa 2 years ago
He did try last night he just fought a fighter that is a better skilled boxer than Manny
Rasclot222 2 years ago
1 inch?? Try 5inch!
mannys arn't straigh-arm punches either...although powerfull, he'l still need to get in close to swing em
all floyd has to do is wot he did yest and against hatton
1REACH1 2 years ago
Truth is Marquez is slow and lack power at Welterweight. He never went up north of 135 lbs. Nothing is great with Mayweather except he outboxed him. Not much power also. I am afraid Mayweather will have trouble with Pacquiao as pac carried his speed and power as he moved up ion weight. If Pac wins convingly agaist Cotto, no doubt he can win over Mayweather
cabcaben 2 years ago
Let's see how Pacman do against Cotto first!!!
dehgrah 2 years ago
manny has a better chance of beating floyd but floyd still has a huge reach advantage....and he wont let manny close like hatton/oscar did.
floyd edges it for me...
1REACH1 2 years ago
he has a 1 inch arm length advantage. Pacquiao has beter fluidity and hand speed and probably better punching power.
1Grosvenor3 2 years ago
you are right my friend.. Floyd does have the advantage in his favour at the same time best asset Pac to counter that is his speed.. To me it all comes down to whos style
Statykbboy 2 years ago
Manny can not beat Mayweather. Because PBF was off for almost 2 years he needed togo the full 12 rounds for his own sake. Cotto or Manny will get beat. So will Mosely. Money May all Day
Rasclot222 2 years ago
the fight last night was not credible enough to make a judgement of how good mayweather is.. Marquez is no longer in his comfortable weight class. If everyone says that hattons style is tailored for pac, this fight last night is tailored specially for PBF, he has the reach, weight, size advantage all over mayweathers favor written all over it. You have to be a dammn fool to miss that
Statykbboy 2 years ago
But that was obvious from the second Marquez called out PBF, you'd have to be a bigger fool to have missed that.
I mean, it wasn't the expectation of anyone that it would be so one sided. Mayweather simply out smarted a very intelligent fighter, can't have missed that. I'm sorry but did you miss the defense? Please, look past the "entertainment" facade of Mayweather and look to the fucking skill man, don't be blinded.
southstaronline 2 years ago
isnt that the same thing when Pac beat DLH? It was more one-sided victory for Pac than Mayweather over JMM. Im sorry but the whole time the reach advantage was way too much for marquez to come in. If you cant see that, you are a dammn fool.
Statykbboy 2 years ago
No, you see if you go back and read quotes from TRUE boxing journalists and pioneers within the sport from commentators to trainers. You will see a difinitive pattern of most being aware that DLH would come in weight drained and have an exceedingly rough time with Pacquiao.
DLH gave up, Marquez didn't, Marquez got a much worse beating, he went down and coul've been taken out at any point Floyd so chose. Marquez landed 12% of his punched! 12!!! COME ON MAN! WAKE UP!!!
I sour what you're saying.
southstaronline 2 years ago
What do you mean marquez got the worst beating? Look at DLH's face, it aint a face anymore... That 12% is due to their style of fighting, counter punching, analyst predicted that it will be marquez that will push the fighting instead of PBF. That number will be different if you are to put in a different type of fighter and different style... wake up man..... Styles make fight...
Statykbboy 2 years ago
You must live in the Islands somewhere so your talking shit like your tuff.
Rasclot222 2 years ago
Pac just constantly bruised one chin, ouuuuu wooop-dee-doo! Anyone can swell up anyone's cheek with that kind of speed against someone that isn't even TRYING to fight back.
Pac's "power" scored him zero knockdowns, zero... Against a weight drained DLH, kinda surprising to be honest. Even without DLH doing much he managed to do better than 12%. I mean, again this is the dude that beat Pacquiao twice after 24 rounds, if you want to quote others, read their quotes about Marquez wins over Pacquiao.
southstaronline 2 years ago
Pac stuck to the game plan, in and out... In order for Pac to knock DLH is get hit him at a much closer range.. He had DLH few times at close range, theres one point that saved DLH from KD when he cornered around 7-8 rd, The post saved his ass.. He would have been down. Dont get me wrong JMM was pacs kryptonite in the lightweight division, but lets see now if they are to fight at 140 and above.. He will eventually get caught like Hatton with that power. marquez dont carry power.
Statykbboy 2 years ago
Marquez truly beat Pacman with skill and not by power nor speed, Pacman has problems with technical sound fighters like Marquez or even a Floyd Mayweather.
dehgrah 2 years ago
I sorta agree, it could go either way it depends on how you judge it. I dont doubt pac will def get problem from pbf. At the same time Floyd has weakness with southpaw.fast and aggresive fighter eg. Judah was winning in the first half til he ran out of fuel, Hatton was winning rounds due to his aggression.. All those qualities combined could spell Mayweather trouble.
Statykbboy 2 years ago
There is no way Pacman could knock down De La Hoya. You could see that in the fight. Even at close range. I have watched Marquez's whole career and he does pack power.
mustaff4530 2 years ago
Look at the fight my friend, round 7 or 8, the clothesline and post saved him from going down. I agree with you in a way that JMM has KO power but not when he is going up in weight... he doesnt carry the same power as when hes a lightweight.
Statykbboy 2 years ago
How can you say that when he barely landed any punches. What are you looking for? A one punch knockout. We shouldn't judge power anyway because Floyd is bigger, therefore he could take more of Marquez punches maybe.....Who knows. I actually just look at styles to judge a fight plus every punch has it's own personallity if you know what I mean.
mustaff4530 2 years ago
Im saying it because JMM said it himself already. "Weight is too much" He's the reverse of what you called weight drain..
Statykbboy 2 years ago
That is just an excuse for lack of skills. Roy put on 20lbs and still won because had enough skill. JMM moved up in weight twice pryor to this fight and he still was good. He is older now, the extra weight could only benefit him. He doesn't have to worry as much about making lbs in the gym killing himself. Floyd moved up from 130lbs over the years......There is just no excuse.....Plus JMM implied himself that he is not going back to lightweight. No excuses.
mustaff4530 2 years ago
it aint lack of skills, everything is in mayweathers favor and advantages that is weight class, speed, style of fight, size,reach and additional weight that he didnt agree to achieve during the weigh in.. what do you mean hes not fighting lightweight,.. theres been talks about him fighting Katsidis. There wont be anymore excuse for fighting for PBF cuz it will either be Cotto Pac or Mosley, anyone else is cherry picked again!
Statykbboy 2 years ago
Ok another example my friend. Holyfield was a cruiserweight. He won the first fight against Bowe. Why??? you tell me. Weight doesn't matter plus I bet you that Marquez next fight will be at 140lbs. You put to much enphasis on wieght. If you have ever been in a fight before you would know that weight doesn't matter as much when you have skills. For your information all fighter look to be in the position to choose opponents. There are alot of lightwieghts that Manny never fought. No Excuses...
mustaff4530 2 years ago
weight doesnt matter it does afighter can move up but slowly over time marquez went upfrom 126 130 135 overtime just like mayweather moved up overtime but not overnite if its just skill why doesnt floyd move up 2 weight class overnight if it dont matter
diego5696 2 years ago
Yeah it might be easier, but Hopkins moved up 15lbs in one fight to beat Tarver.
And to answer your question Floyd won't move up two wieght classes because he doesn't have to. Look here, Marquez didn't make any excuses why should anybody else. Marquez didn't even throw any punches because he didn't know what to do. Floyd is a great fighter man. Face it.......He had the same effect on DLH, Baldomir, Gatti....... I can go on and on.
mustaff4530 2 years ago
marquez didnt throw a lot of punches not because he couldnt but because he was against heavier boxer that was waiting counter punching so he knew what to do but had to be cautious against biger oponent if they were fighting at 135 marquez weight marquez would land more being less cautious but at that weight he had to be careful and same effect on delahoya mayweather did not do nothing against a past his prime delohoya
diego5696 2 years ago
Floyd controlled the fight against DLH. Prime or no Prime who knows. What you say is all excuses and none of which are facts. DLH wasn't punching because he was frozen by Mayweather's speed and movement. It goes back to my point that they didn't have the skill to deal with Mayweather. Mayweather has been the smaller man in most of his fights just like Pernell. There is just no excuse. Marquez had a chance to be great and he fell short.
mustaff4530 2 years ago
you say marquez had a chance to be great but fell short so now a fighter must beat a fighter that is 20 pounds heavier to be great if thet is the case I guess floyd will have to move up two weight clases to be great is that what you saying who beat marquez in his weight class and left no doubt in his 20 years boxingthats not great in his last two fights he knocked out fighters that had not been knocked out he did get hit clean shoots but thats because hes 36skill deminish
diego5696 2 years ago
Enough excuses.........from 135lbs to 147 isn't 20lbs. You do the math........ If you want to make excuses for marquez and hate on floyd's accomplishments then fine. The sport will continue to be what it is and the truth will remain.......excuses doesn't get you work, money, or pussy.....Peace......
mustaff4530 2 years ago
excuses if you understood boxing you would know it was at least 20 pounds yes 135 to 147 doesnt make 20 but if you see marquez manny weight in at 130 fight night they were about 145 thats 15 pounds more for a 130 why because they had time in 130 so if they gain 15 pounds at 147 a fighter easily willgain 20 pounds because thats his natural weight been there for a while thats the reason floyd did not want to weight him selt fight night and excuses why didnt floyd make the weight thats a excuse
diego5696 2 years ago
Wow! More excuses. Please!!! No more excuses. I didn't even read what you wrote because I no that it is just another excuse. Get over it.
mustaff4530 2 years ago
The only thing I stated was fact I guess you cant argue facts can you the only excuses is you coming with excusesI stated facts and you cant argue facts simple as that I can argue your point you cant argue mine facts are factsso you cant defent your view point and I can
diego5696 2 years ago
I saw everything you said but your a damn fool to think anyone can beat Floyd.
Boy.
Rasclot222 2 years ago
back your words my friend... to me your just riding mayweathers nuts.. all im saying is that last nights fight was all in mayweather favor.. win is a win but just like any other fights he does, its straight cherry picked.. i wanna see him fight mosley
TotoFromTDW 2 years ago 2
Don't talk to me about riding nuts I didn't disrespect you. People talk really funny behind keyboards. I'm in Oakland CA. by the way. In case you want to get to know me. I like boxing not Mayweather. I just think nobody can fuck with him. Boy.
Rasclot222 2 years ago
Honestly who cares where you from.
Statykbboy 2 years ago
Because you talking shit so I'm telling where I'm at littleboy.
Rasclot222 2 years ago
No need to act tough, I just tell the truth that your boy pbf is a straight cherry picker..Marquez fight aint a credible win, even a blind man can see that... Lets see what your boy pbf next cherry picked fight will be or will he man-up and fight mosley a real ww. By the way that was lousy boring fight AS always...
Statykbboy 2 years ago
I ain't talkin tuff I'm just being real BOY! I don't hide like most people do. You see my videos my face my place and where I live. PBF is a good fighter I'm not picking him because I like him I told you that. I'm a boxing fan. I been watching boxing for many years now. Longer than you probably and I experience the ring so don't come at with this PBF shit. I don't give a fuck if someone beats him. Him losing and coming back will establish his greatness.
Rasclot222 2 years ago
All im sayin is that fight was not credible win.. i dont doubt hes a good fighter. as i been saying so many times, hes been cherry pickin his fight.. i give him the win no doubt, i already knew that he was gonna win.. again he aint great to me.. SSM and Cotto are the sharks in the tank.. I wanna see PBF jump in the danger zone..
Statykbboy 2 years ago
Cotto would be the easiest out of all of them. Manny I think has a hard fight coming his way and it won't be easy. Mosely still has to wait :(
Rasclot222 2 years ago
mayweather vs p.williams or mosley or cadzagie
jessebrito11 2 years ago
i agree, but i wont say cotto is an easy fight against pbf in ww division, with that being said, cotto vs pac is more legit fight than pbf vs jmm... but as much i wanna see pac vs pbf, i think pbf vs ssm is the legit fight that should happen. if pbf wins this fight which i have him 50/50 chance, i will def bowdown. Right now i dont think PBF has anymore cherry picking choice but to fight SSM Cotto or Pac.. Were in the era of history in a making.
Statykbboy 2 years ago
Mayweather jr really is a small guy. Actully too small for welter. He's a natural 140 lb fighter. But he has the talent to beat almost everyone in the welter division but he has let ODL brainwash him with this money bullshit. Money is all he cares for not the game. guys like Mosely, Cotto, Pac Roy JOnes love the game.
Rasclot222 2 years ago
i wont say hes a small ww, he walks in the ring atleast 152-4 that night. He was small at one point just like Pac but right now WW is his natural class. Theres a reason why he couldnt make the 144 limit and had to settle for 146. PBF did not want to disclose his actual weight cuz we all know it be shameful how much he blows up after weigh in, its an embarassment that all advantages to him.. Right now money is not to appealing to the fans anymore, especially with this economy.
Statykbboy 2 years ago
He really is a small dude thats why he tries to fight guys smaller than him, only when he moved up to 147. At 140 and below he fought people equal his size. All I can say is money fucked up the sport.
Rasclot222 2 years ago
You proved me right my friend and i do agree with u, at 140 PBF fights legit fighter in that class that was long time ago, but him being at the ww 147 lbs he fights smaller fighter which makes everyone believe that hes cherry picking his fights. Again he hasnt fought a real challenge. unlike Pac he is fighting Cotto in the ww division. To me thats a real risk for pac.
Statykbboy 2 years ago
With regards to money, it will always be there, I just dont like the fact that mayweather labelled himself as the face of boxing with dollar signs all over it. Me personally i want the mayweather that just fights tough opponents not the money laundering mayweather, feel me?!
Statykbboy 2 years ago
Same here I honestly think if Mayweather doesn't fight any of the 3 Cotto, Mosely, or Manny to me with all his talent it's wasted talent.
Rasclot222 2 years ago
Whatever you're smoking, I want some of.
Pacquiao refused to fight Marquez again at any weight. Watch the interview where Marquez calls out Pacquiao for their third fight to his face. Never before have I seen a scared Pacman, until that interview.
Pac SHOULD be able to beat Cotto easily. Anyone with good boxing skill and speed should be able to, Cotto is WAR-TORN and doesn't clinch, so against a southpaw, he is truly fucked.
Pac hasn't brought much power up, I'm at least not convinced...
southstaronline 2 years ago
...I mean I was almost sold into the Pacman hype myself. "oh my god at his power! wow he's so powerful!". Well i've seen him fight 2 fights, both against really poor opposition (guys no longer at their peak, fucked up mentally and physically by the real #1 P$P king) - no point even mentioning DLH fight, that was simply not DLH.
He managed to knock out Hatton really fast, ok cool... Great- but he used the check-hook to do it, blueprint laid out by Mayweather's discovery in their fight....
southstaronline 2 years ago
...Hatton walked onto that final hook, he looked as if he was getting his feet grounded in the second round, even landed a nice body shot which hurt Pacquiao, but then yes... Stupidly walked into a punch, thus creating momentum against force, producing an overwhelming mirage of power.
Everyone THINKS he has crazy power now after those wins, me I'm not blind, he has speed and power, but not to the level some people imagine him to have. Cotto fight will show early his lack of this "super power".
southstaronline 2 years ago 2
I agree with you!!!
dehgrah 2 years ago
dehgrah is a moron, he believes marquez will beat pacman at 140. any competent boxing analyst will disagree with you. LOL!!!
madkidjin 2 years ago
Well it's the professional analysts who are saying it lol
dehgrah 2 years ago
marquez weight didnt carry at all...im sorry i dont think marquez would beat marquez at this weight he was too slow...i think mosley will walk right through mayweathers punches
emersoneee2008 2 years ago
Emersoneee2008 Yon don't think Marquez would beat Marquez? WTF does that mean.?
Rasclot222 2 years ago
oops i meant i dont think marquez would beat manny at this weight ...he was way too slow...mayweather looked real big ..bigger than he use to look...he looked he was ateast 156 or over ...what do you think
emersoneee2008 2 years ago
if pacquiao beats mayweather, how could u still guarantee marquez can beat pacquiao? and besides, marquez is past his prime. he didn't look good against casamayor and diaz, u think he'd look better at 140? only an idiot such as yourself wud guarantee marquez will beat pacman in a third fight.
madkidjin 2 years ago
marquez should learn from Pac
if you dont want your opponent to came 15-20lbs heavier than you
then fine them millions for every pound overweight LOL
katulz 2 years ago
ye 4 get da weight, all i saw was a speed and skill advantage no size or power, mayweather didnt KO him or anything so the power issue thrown out the window, floyd just outboxed him
1PrettyB0y1 2 years ago
did you see the thing at the end with mosley haha
inventedtoastyaiknow 2 years ago 2
ye that was funny
1PrettyB0y1 2 years ago
YES LOL
dehgrah 2 years ago
what did this fight gross and how much does pbf owe his creditors?
i really want floyd to sort this situation out.
hume12345 2 years ago
why the fuck you wanna see pacquiao vs. marquez 3 than pacquiao vs. mayweather?? what's the point? marquez is done after this fight. he's damaged goods! if pacquiao loses to cotto we might not see him fight mayweather! DUMBFUCK!
madkidjin 2 years ago
Nothing is damaged about Marquez even at 36 he still got his legs under him and I guarantee he will beat Pacman in a 3rd fight!!!
dehgrah 2 years ago
typical boring ass Floyd fight
odin422 2 years ago
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no respect for mayweather. He paid 600,000 cuz he didn't make the 144 weight limit.
matrix2cool 2 years ago
no respect for mayweather. He paid 600,00 cuz he didnt make weight.
matrix2cool 2 years ago
That's a lot of money to be dishing out over 2 lbs especially when the IRS is on your back right?
dehgrah 2 years ago
Great... Floyd beat an old lightweight champ who never weighed-in officially past 135 pounds. Fuckin farse of a fight.
undefeated29 2 years ago
Juan Manuel Marquez is a legend and he lost to a better fighter even if they was at a equal weight JMM would've had too many problems against Floyd, but I know for a fact JMM will beat Pacman again lol like he truly did in the last two fights in a third fight!!!
dehgrah 2 years ago
hatton and dela hoya destroyed KO by Pacman. Marquez didn't KO by mayweather.
guiltygear100 2 years ago
This farce was unfair to JMM if you really want to be completely honest. This is not his best weight and he's unproven at welterweight! He looks slow as molasses above 140! Manny proved he could carry the weight, retaining both his speed and power as he proved against bigger guys and there's no doubt he would've destroyed Marquez above 135. Floyd looked like a friggin middleweight in there against an old bloated lighteweight... which is the TRUTH!
undefeated29 2 years ago
good analysis ayo peep ma vid. propz
EA2153 2 years ago
great prediction!
OTKP 2 years ago
thanks!!!
dehgrah 2 years ago