I don't think it's Korean food anymore once you have put forks on the table instead of chopsticks. Whatever the food is, if it is a Korean food they must eat it like the Koreans do, which eating with chopsticks. Of course there are some exceptions such as Don Ka Su, fried pork meat, they can eat it with forks and knife
@TastingKorea I'm talking about Korean foods such as Bulgogi and Bu de zi ge dude. If you serve Bulgogi with fork and knife, it's fuking westernized Korean food, because you have just broken the traditional way of serving food in Korea. People from video are serving "Korean food" with forks and knife because it makes food more elegant and Korean people believe the western way of eating food is much cooler than the Korean way.
@Mrgreatestfreakout Eating sushi with a fork does not make it "Westernized" food. The forks are for Westerners who can't use chopsticks. Koreans do not believe forks are cooler.
i dont know about this. i mean its great for food to evolve. but to evolve a food just because the westerners just cant understand it is a bit wrong. its people that have to to broaden their palate and just taste everything with an open mind.
Korean food is simply too spicy for westerners, at least initially. Once they get over that initial aversion and grow accustomed to more Korean food, they will want the extremely spicy and more of it. The reason why the world will never catch on to Korean food is because of the initial reaction to the basics. We laugh at westerners struggling with mild nappa kimchee with bulgogi and rice, while we dip the green pepper into daengjang for another bite.
According to South Koreans' report, 35,400 becquerels per kilogram of radioactive Cesium was found on the road of residential area in South Korea. Many people live by this radioactive roads. Elementry school is so close by this road. It's waaaayyyy Over than Japan's Fukushima radiation level. But Korean Gov is hiding the serious fact.
About Hypocrisy that's everywhere.. Basically it's a sigature of the haves. Hypocrisy is most prevailing in the rich area in the world, while it's relatively not in the poor area. Sometimes, when someone asks for something bigger and impossible, it could be for something smaller and possible. When Quebec asks for independence from Canada, it means they ask for more feredal aids. That's politics.
About underworld business like pachinko... Japan is not an easy country just to look on any illegal business is booming. Pachinko isn't illegal in Japan, just as semi-prostitute or pornography isn't illegal. I guess there must be some connection between pachiko/private banking business(kind of Yakuza business) and Japanese political parties, a sort of symbotics.
Inter-ethnic marriage in Japan dates back to the 7th century, when Chinese and Korean immigrants began intermarrying with the local population. By the early 9th century, over one-third of all noble families in Japan had ancestors of foreign origin, said Leupp, Gary P. in Interracial Intimacy in Japan(2003). Japanese themselves are copied genes from Chinese and Korean.
KOREAN HISTORY 101. Korea was poor in 1800s. Literacy 1%. Population declining. In 1894 peasant rebellion. Korea asked China and Japan for help. Japan defeated China, and took control. Korean framers supported Japanese expansion.
Japan built railways, roads, harbors, communications networks, hospitals, and introduced smallpox vaccine. Colonial period population growth? 1.4%. Primary school enrollment: 1% in 1910; 47% in 1943. Japan has continued to pour billions of dollars into Korea as aid.
@CloeBuckingham You really are an ugly cunt. You go around spreading hate and make disparaging remarks against Korean. Remember me? People like you make me happy with the fact that we nuked your nip asses twice and that Tsunami was a fucking doozy. ;) Another thing you ugly nip, you want so badly to look like people like me. I am half Italian and Korean. Japanese women love me and they yearn to be with me. Deep down, they all wish they were half. True?
@CloeBuckingham I love how your glorious government covered up the radiation hazard to all the innocent people after the wonderful Tsunami. I loved how the water mowed down entire villages like they were tiny little toys. It's called population control! haha!
@CloeBuckingham Why Dirty JAPANESE TROLLS are on EVERY Korea-related videos??? Because Japan's memorial service to Korean who taught them how to write and gave them culture are the reasons why Japanese are always afraid of Koreans. The fear towards the domination of the nation is running inside their DNA.
@CloeBuckingham People in the world will find out sooner or later the cunningness of you Japs. You Japanese have made every effort to distort all the past histories surrounding your country in order to hide your own humble pasts. You tried to degrade your neighbouring country which has been the continuous benefactor to your country from the establishment of Japan in the 5th century untill the 18th century. That is Korea and most of your culture are originally transferred from ancient Korea.
@CloeBuckingham You cunning Japanese distorter! What is the basis of this? It's groundless at all. Moreover, it completely distorts the truth. I know you pitiful Japs learn in the school like that. But that is completely wrong. You are the only people who learn not only your own history but also that of your neighboring country just to justify your country's unconscious invasion of other countries. Korea has been the continuous benefactor of Japan during the past 15 hundred years.
@CloeBuckingham Most of Japanese culture were originated or transferred/educated from the advanced Korea in the past. Even the Japanese royal family which has been established more that 15 hundred years ago is originated from the royal family of an ancient Korean kingdom Baekjae (Japanese call that kingdom as Kudara, which is the Japanese pronunciation of a Korean word 큰나라, meaning 'big country' or 'father land'). Majority of japanese leading classes were Koreans. Japs don't accept these FACTs.
@CloeBuckingham The Chinese letters are hard to learn when compared to other alphabets, that's why the illiteracy rate in China's still high. There's no proof that the literacy rate in Korea once was 1%. I know Japan spreads a lie like Japanese literacy rate excelled Europe in Edo era with no proof. Get away from your complex toward Korea who civilized your ancient culture together with China.
@chibasportshito Believe it or not, Western historians actually traveled to Korea during the 1870s and took notes. These books have now been scanned by Google. So there are mountains of evidence about what Korea was like before Japan's civilizing influence.
Korea copied many things from China, but corrupted them at the same time. That is why only children of the yangbang passed the examination system. If you were not in the top 1%, you were nothing. Even slavery persisted.
@CloeBuckingham I've read some of them, some travelogoues written by Westerners who travelled to Asia, not only Korea, that note Japan remained a uncivilized kingdom even though Japan was westernized by the West, unlike its neighbors. Korea copied China, it's true, however Japan copied both Korea and China. What difference lies between Japan and its neighbors is that Japan was the first barbarian Asians who adopted the Western culture. It's just a matter of time and geopraphical circumstance.
@chibasportshito That is what Koreans like to tell themselves, that they are Japan's elder brother. But if Korea truly were more advanced than Japan economically and educationally, history would have happened in reverse, and Korea would be the conquering nation.
@CloeBuckingham The simplest fact that shows how profoundly Japan was influenced by Koreans and Chinese is the list of ancient priests(陰陽師). In all ancient, even modern, societies, the class who occupied the native religeous circle were its ruling class. Most of ancient priests in Japan were either Korean or Chinese, which means Japan was found by the both. What about Nara, the ancient Japanese capital that was copied after Chinese capital of Chouan(長安)? Japan copied China a lot.
@CloeBuckingham When it comes to literacy rate, it's sometimes hard to compare, as literacy rates of people who use Kanji or any alphabets should be greatly different. Kanji takes enormous time and efforts to learn it, while the simplest alphabet like Kana, it takes just few hours. I know some Japanese with inferiority complex eagerly spread lies like Japanese lieracy rate already excelled Europe in Edo period. There's no a single proof of that.
@CloeBuckingham Literacy of 1%? Maybe almost the same in Japan, if it's measured by Kanji, not easy Kana. Most of all, there's no proof that it was 1% in Korea but some Japanese lies. Could you tell me which reference notes that it was 1%?
You'd better know this too. Before the Meiji restoration, in other word, the through process of copying West civilization, the school enrollment of Japan was 0%, as there was no school of its modern concept.
During the Edo period (before the Meiji restoration), the literacy rate was 54% for men and 19% for women nationally, and 80% for men and 25% for women in Edo (Tokyo). 15,000 temple schools (寺子屋, terakoya) for children age 6 to 13 produced this fantastic result. Samurai children studied at one of 260 daimyo colleges. There were 2,000 other private schools.
@CloeBuckingham The data about Japanese literacy rate has no proof, unfortunately. And there was no school in Japan during Edo period. If there were a school there, such a primitive school were everywhere. Japan first got the real school when the West gave it to them.
@CloeBuckingham I'm not interested in politics of both insane countries. What I pointed out is just a historical fact that Japan is just a copy of China and Korea from its beginning. Well Japan began to copy the West later on.
@CloeBuckingham My point is simple. You called Korea a copycat. I said Japan is another copycat. In the ancient time, Korea copied China and Japan copied both China and Korea. In the modern time, Japan copied West and Korea copied West and Japan. It's an irony that a hardcore copycat blames on other copycat.
@chibasportshito I agree with what you wrote. But even though Korea or Japan copied, they also have aspects of their culture that are distinctive and unique.
There is no culture that is a great culture and copied nothing. The invention on the back of the 10,000 won is said to be a copy of a Chinese invention, but its origin may be traced to West Asia.
@CloeBuckingham I do not know what's on the back of 10 grand note. However, right, more or less, a specific culture is dependent on others. My point here was that Korea and Japan are great copiers, while India and Greece are minimal copiers. About Chinese things? They also owe to India, and significant portions of Chinese culture weren't originally Chinese as well. I guess India is the great creator of Asian culture.
@chibasportshito True, but it is all to some degree. China got Buddhism from India, but Confucianism is home grown. They got Marxism from Germany, but neo-Confucianism and Taoism are home grown.
@CloeBuckingham You're right. However Neo-Marxism has nothing to do with China. Also Confucianism and Taoism are the worst set of shits that only deteriorate human intellectual capability. They're not comparable to Buddhism at all. Any country with good sense of reality, e.g., Japan, has never accepted such poor things. I guess the reason of low Chinese cultural level thesedays owes to the both shits.
@chibasportshito The fundamental difference between China and Japan is that Confucianism in China caused people to look backwards, much like scholasticism in the West. The idea of being learned was to study the great works of the past. However, what room did that leave for the development of science?
There is nothing in Japanese society or religion, in Shinto, Buddhism, or that strange mix of neo-Confucianism, that resisted change, that resisted scientific progress, that resisted technology.
@CloeBuckingham Most of all, in Japan, Confucianism wasn't accepted at all. Japan just studied it as a part of philosophy, not a prevaling social ethics as in China and Korea. Confucianism is a mental "cancer" or a fake philosophy that designated for the rulers to keep their thrones secured.
@chibasportshito You also find elements of that in Taoism. "Therefore the sage, in the exercise of his government, empties their minds, fills their bellies, weakens their wills, and strengthens their bones. He constantly (tries to) keep them without knowledge..."
You cannot have democracy without an educated people. You cannot even have accountability in any form of government.
I don't understand why Western "hippies" love Taoism so much. Just because of some mysterious mumbo jumbo?
@CloeBuckingham Yes, some hippies did, not because of its mysticism. I think hippie culture has something to do with Taoism in that both of them are "dreamy escape" from "hard reality", and that's why. Taoism reflects its historical background of ancient China: endless wars, titled. Chinese back then must have been stressed out with worry over wars, just as hippies.
@CloeBuckingham The way it affects Chinese still badly lies in its mysterious mumbo jumbos. Look at Chinese who are willing to pay big bucks to buy a root of natural ginseng as they believe since it's rare, it must have lot more medical effects. Taoism has led some Asians stupid.
@CloeBuckingham Nothing surprise as such a thing has been happening in China from early in time. Lu Xun once criticized such a Chinese mentality in his book, The True Story of Ah Q. Diverse perspectives are possible on this matter. My idea is about their history. Chinese look so homogeneous unlike Americans or French, however China is a greatly multi-ethnic society from the very beginning, even though most of Chinese claim that they're Han Chinese. (They're not in their genes)
@chibasportshito I took Chinese history in secondary school. (The course went on forever, and we had to memorize so many dynasties.) I recall that historically, about 40% of the people living in China, which was generally smaller than today, were considered Han. So I was surprised in speaking to Chinese that they consider more than 90% to be Han. Hokkien, Hakka, all kinds of ethnicities were redefined as Han in the name of nationalism.
@CloeBuckingham For minorities(no matter if they belonged to ruling class just as Xianbei, Mongol, Cathay or Manchu), they claimed to call themselves as Han Chinese to rule them more efficiently as Han Chinese were majority.
@CloeBuckingham Still such a foreign rulers exploited Han Chinese. The latest Qing, the Manchu rulers, while most of them finally claimed they're Han Chinese, at the same time, they forced and exploited Han Chinese. And this kind of process has been repeated throughout the Chinese history. I think this might be the reason why Chinese put so much weight on their own families and money, while they often ignore something public.
@chibasportshito Mandarin means "language spoken by officials." It has an Altaic influence because it is from the Manchu invaders. It only has four tones, rather than up to eight like Cantonese. However, the language of the invaders became the language of the Han. Cantonese lost by one vote to Mandarin. Ironically, now people generally just call Mandarin "Chinese." It is very bad for reading ancient Chinese poetry, and sounds stilted with exaggerated tones and pauses between characters.
@CloeBuckingham Nope, the language of Manchu invaders has mostly disappeared(that's more like the Mongolian language). Mandarin is just a compromise between Manchu rulers and Han Chinese.
@CloeBuckingham Such a cultural mixture and alteration's inevitable when one side meets other sides. Most of people in the world see Qipao as Chinese, while it's Manchu clothes. Majority Chinese acquired foreign culture as their's while minority Manchu lost their own culture.
@CloeBuckingham Returning to the accident in China, it's because, I guess, Chinese put too much priority on their own things(family and money) than on public interests. It's highly contrasting when you see Japanese who often put their priority on public interests(country) than to their own(family). And this is why there are so many poisonous foods made in China(making money for own's family at the expense of public health), while this sort of case is extremely hard to find in Japan.
@chibasportshito But recently Japanese people are angry that the government hid facts about strontium levels in Japanese rice from Fukushima prefecture near the damaged nuclear power plant. Radioactive food and contaminated imports from China are making their way into the food supply, even with Japan's relatively strict food regulations.
@CloeBuckingham Unlike Korea and Japan(more severe), where considerable strength of isolation was made, thus Yakuza like high level of social collectivism was created, China has been constantly mixed with something foreign: being conquered by others or conquering others, individuals in China needed to defend themselves by their own. I guess that's why communist Chinese behave lot more like capitalists than Japanese or Korean.
@chibasportshito During the Great Hanshin Earthquake, the yakuza were helping people. In general, they do not go after the common people, but the rich. Nevertheless, I don't like the yakuza, and recently, there is a growing Korean influence in the yakuza. Koreans in Japan also run pachinko parlors, although gambling is illegal. Koreans in Japan choose not to apply for Japanese citizenship because they would have to pay the same tax as Japanese citizens, but they want voting rights. Hypocrisy.
@CloeBuckingham Korean yakuza in Japan look just like two major US mafia groups, Italian and Irish. As the late comer groups in the US, Italian and Irish had not enough chance to pay off under other European immigrants. Japanese discriminate Koreans, and it looks natural for Korean to lean to Yakuza.
Who gives a shiznit I like pizza but I'm Korean
Koreanbarbiidoll 2 weeks ago
I don't think it's Korean food anymore once you have put forks on the table instead of chopsticks. Whatever the food is, if it is a Korean food they must eat it like the Koreans do, which eating with chopsticks. Of course there are some exceptions such as Don Ka Su, fried pork meat, they can eat it with forks and knife
Mrgreatestfreakout 3 weeks ago
@Mrgreatestfreakout Chopsticks do not make a hamburger Korean. If a food is prepared traditionally, it is Korean. Donkotsu is Japanese fusion.
TastingKorea 3 weeks ago
@TastingKorea I'm talking about Korean foods such as Bulgogi and Bu de zi ge dude. If you serve Bulgogi with fork and knife, it's fuking westernized Korean food, because you have just broken the traditional way of serving food in Korea. People from video are serving "Korean food" with forks and knife because it makes food more elegant and Korean people believe the western way of eating food is much cooler than the Korean way.
Mrgreatestfreakout 3 weeks ago
@Mrgreatestfreakout Eating sushi with a fork does not make it "Westernized" food. The forks are for Westerners who can't use chopsticks. Koreans do not believe forks are cooler.
TastingKorea 2 weeks ago
kkk
uitest789 3 weeks ago
i dont know about this. i mean its great for food to evolve. but to evolve a food just because the westerners just cant understand it is a bit wrong. its people that have to to broaden their palate and just taste everything with an open mind.
yinvi 1 month ago
Korean food is simply too spicy for westerners, at least initially. Once they get over that initial aversion and grow accustomed to more Korean food, they will want the extremely spicy and more of it. The reason why the world will never catch on to Korean food is because of the initial reaction to the basics. We laugh at westerners struggling with mild nappa kimchee with bulgogi and rice, while we dip the green pepper into daengjang for another bite.
RK831 1 month ago
@RK831 i find korean food one of the best in the world, and i am a westerner,
I was in korea in early 2011, it was the best time of my life and the korean cousine was a big part of that.
There is nothing like it and i would eat korean food over any other foods in the world any day.
Spicy or non-spicy, does not matter. It is all delicious.
I remember eating spicy chicken in a resturant. It was soooo spicy, it made me breathe fire. But it was so delicious i could not stop eating.
Love it!
stormvind 1 month ago
Hmm tasty! I'm up for some gimbap or bulgogi.
DutchinKorea 1 month ago
Oh no is this the start of another panda express?!?! Don't do it Korea! Don't do it!!
yld629 1 month ago
@eleaon023 why is that
yazeed2411 1 month ago
I want to go to korea and eat korean food
yazeed2411 2 months ago
@yazeed2411 you'd better forget it ~
eleaon023 2 months ago
Eat dog
v9c9v 2 months ago
@v9c9v Typical of a ignorant fool - yes I mean you.
kizuo39571 2 months ago
@v9c9v not every asian eat dogs, im hate those people who eaten dog !! so stop saying that ignorant fool
watru1234 1 month ago
BEE BEE BAK!, WTF~
Vorgasung 2 months ago
I'm really hungry now.
killerpanda91 3 months ago
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Traditional "K-FOOD"
Tonsil (똥 술), Korean medicinal liquor marinated people, dogs, chicken droppings.
Hongeohoe（홍어회）, Skate sashimi marinated in human droppings.
Sangbun (嘗糞) , Health check licking shit, later changed to entertainment.
mm04061 3 months ago
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According to South Koreans' report, 35,400 becquerels per kilogram of radioactive Cesium was found on the road of residential area in South Korea. Many people live by this radioactive roads. Elementry school is so close by this road. It's waaaayyyy Over than Japan's Fukushima radiation level. But Korean Gov is hiding the serious fact.
Don't visit South Korea.
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AzureInc1 3 months ago
chefs hot =]
LittoBUbbo 3 months ago 12
fucking Japanese trolls on EVERY Korea - related videos on Youtube...so pathetic
12987343 4 months ago 21
About Hypocrisy that's everywhere.. Basically it's a sigature of the haves. Hypocrisy is most prevailing in the rich area in the world, while it's relatively not in the poor area. Sometimes, when someone asks for something bigger and impossible, it could be for something smaller and possible. When Quebec asks for independence from Canada, it means they ask for more feredal aids. That's politics.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
About underworld business like pachinko... Japan is not an easy country just to look on any illegal business is booming. Pachinko isn't illegal in Japan, just as semi-prostitute or pornography isn't illegal. I guess there must be some connection between pachiko/private banking business(kind of Yakuza business) and Japanese political parties, a sort of symbotics.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
kimchi is good but the food on the video didnt look veyr original.
zinakan 4 months ago
Inter-ethnic marriage in Japan dates back to the 7th century, when Chinese and Korean immigrants began intermarrying with the local population. By the early 9th century, over one-third of all noble families in Japan had ancestors of foreign origin, said Leupp, Gary P. in Interracial Intimacy in Japan(2003). Japanese themselves are copied genes from Chinese and Korean.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
This video is about food. If you want to debate Korean politics, please educate yourself by viewing my videos.
CloeBuckingham 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham I know much about Korea and Japan than you. Get away from brainwash education you've got from your school.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
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chibasportshito 4 months ago
KOREAN HISTORY 101. Korea was poor in 1800s. Literacy 1%. Population declining. In 1894 peasant rebellion. Korea asked China and Japan for help. Japan defeated China, and took control. Korean framers supported Japanese expansion.
Japan built railways, roads, harbors, communications networks, hospitals, and introduced smallpox vaccine. Colonial period population growth? 1.4%. Primary school enrollment: 1% in 1910; 47% in 1943. Japan has continued to pour billions of dollars into Korea as aid.
CloeBuckingham 5 months ago
@CloeBuckingham You really are an ugly cunt. You go around spreading hate and make disparaging remarks against Korean. Remember me? People like you make me happy with the fact that we nuked your nip asses twice and that Tsunami was a fucking doozy. ;) Another thing you ugly nip, you want so badly to look like people like me. I am half Italian and Korean. Japanese women love me and they yearn to be with me. Deep down, they all wish they were half. True?
pakih0m0 5 months ago
@CloeBuckingham I love how your glorious government covered up the radiation hazard to all the innocent people after the wonderful Tsunami. I loved how the water mowed down entire villages like they were tiny little toys. It's called population control! haha!
pakih0m0 5 months ago
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@CloeBuckingham Why Dirty JAPANESE TROLLS are on EVERY Korea-related videos??? Because Japan's memorial service to Korean who taught them how to write and gave them culture are the reasons why Japanese are always afraid of Koreans. The fear towards the domination of the nation is running inside their DNA.
truesky00 5 months ago
@CloeBuckingham People in the world will find out sooner or later the cunningness of you Japs. You Japanese have made every effort to distort all the past histories surrounding your country in order to hide your own humble pasts. You tried to degrade your neighbouring country which has been the continuous benefactor to your country from the establishment of Japan in the 5th century untill the 18th century. That is Korea and most of your culture are originally transferred from ancient Korea.
estaska 5 months ago
@CloeBuckingham You cunning Japanese distorter! What is the basis of this? It's groundless at all. Moreover, it completely distorts the truth. I know you pitiful Japs learn in the school like that. But that is completely wrong. You are the only people who learn not only your own history but also that of your neighboring country just to justify your country's unconscious invasion of other countries. Korea has been the continuous benefactor of Japan during the past 15 hundred years.
estaska 5 months ago
@CloeBuckingham Most of Japanese culture were originated or transferred/educated from the advanced Korea in the past. Even the Japanese royal family which has been established more that 15 hundred years ago is originated from the royal family of an ancient Korean kingdom Baekjae (Japanese call that kingdom as Kudara, which is the Japanese pronunciation of a Korean word 큰나라, meaning 'big country' or 'father land'). Majority of japanese leading classes were Koreans. Japs don't accept these FACTs.
estaska 5 months ago
@CloeBuckingham China and Korea civilized Japan. Period
ilovemao1004 5 months ago
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@CloeBuckingham China and Korea civilized Japan. Period
ilovemao1004 5 months ago
@CloeBuckingham whats wrong with you? why are you in every korean video talking shit? this isnt even relevant to the 1800s.
Kleeeenex1 5 months ago
@Kleeeenex1 That's a lot of videos I'm in! LOL
CloeBuckingham 5 months ago
@CloeBuckingham The Chinese letters are hard to learn when compared to other alphabets, that's why the illiteracy rate in China's still high. There's no proof that the literacy rate in Korea once was 1%. I know Japan spreads a lie like Japanese literacy rate excelled Europe in Edo era with no proof. Get away from your complex toward Korea who civilized your ancient culture together with China.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@chibasportshito Believe it or not, Western historians actually traveled to Korea during the 1870s and took notes. These books have now been scanned by Google. So there are mountains of evidence about what Korea was like before Japan's civilizing influence.
Korea copied many things from China, but corrupted them at the same time. That is why only children of the yangbang passed the examination system. If you were not in the top 1%, you were nothing. Even slavery persisted.
CloeBuckingham 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham I've read some of them, some travelogoues written by Westerners who travelled to Asia, not only Korea, that note Japan remained a uncivilized kingdom even though Japan was westernized by the West, unlike its neighbors. Korea copied China, it's true, however Japan copied both Korea and China. What difference lies between Japan and its neighbors is that Japan was the first barbarian Asians who adopted the Western culture. It's just a matter of time and geopraphical circumstance.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@chibasportshito That is what Koreans like to tell themselves, that they are Japan's elder brother. But if Korea truly were more advanced than Japan economically and educationally, history would have happened in reverse, and Korea would be the conquering nation.
CloeBuckingham 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham The simplest fact that shows how profoundly Japan was influenced by Koreans and Chinese is the list of ancient priests(陰陽師). In all ancient, even modern, societies, the class who occupied the native religeous circle were its ruling class. Most of ancient priests in Japan were either Korean or Chinese, which means Japan was found by the both. What about Nara, the ancient Japanese capital that was copied after Chinese capital of Chouan(長安)? Japan copied China a lot.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham When it comes to literacy rate, it's sometimes hard to compare, as literacy rates of people who use Kanji or any alphabets should be greatly different. Kanji takes enormous time and efforts to learn it, while the simplest alphabet like Kana, it takes just few hours. I know some Japanese with inferiority complex eagerly spread lies like Japanese lieracy rate already excelled Europe in Edo period. There's no a single proof of that.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham Literacy of 1%? Maybe almost the same in Japan, if it's measured by Kanji, not easy Kana. Most of all, there's no proof that it was 1% in Korea but some Japanese lies. Could you tell me which reference notes that it was 1%?
You'd better know this too. Before the Meiji restoration, in other word, the through process of copying West civilization, the school enrollment of Japan was 0%, as there was no school of its modern concept.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
During the Edo period (before the Meiji restoration), the literacy rate was 54% for men and 19% for women nationally, and 80% for men and 25% for women in Edo (Tokyo). 15,000 temple schools (寺子屋, terakoya) for children age 6 to 13 produced this fantastic result. Samurai children studied at one of 260 daimyo colleges. There were 2,000 other private schools.
CloeBuckingham 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham The data about Japanese literacy rate has no proof, unfortunately. And there was no school in Japan during Edo period. If there were a school there, such a primitive school were everywhere. Japan first got the real school when the West gave it to them.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham I'm not interested in politics of both insane countries. What I pointed out is just a historical fact that Japan is just a copy of China and Korea from its beginning. Well Japan began to copy the West later on.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@chibasportshito No-one who has visited Japan, China, Korea, and the West has ever felt that Japan is just a copy.
CloeBuckingham 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham It's just a fact that Japan started as a copy cat of China and later became a copy cat of the West.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham And Japanese themselves are Chinese-Korean immigrants who conquered local Jomons.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@chibasportshito True. So what's your point?
CloeBuckingham 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham My point is simple. You called Korea a copycat. I said Japan is another copycat. In the ancient time, Korea copied China and Japan copied both China and Korea. In the modern time, Japan copied West and Korea copied West and Japan. It's an irony that a hardcore copycat blames on other copycat.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@chibasportshito I agree with what you wrote. But even though Korea or Japan copied, they also have aspects of their culture that are distinctive and unique.
There is no culture that is a great culture and copied nothing. The invention on the back of the 10,000 won is said to be a copy of a Chinese invention, but its origin may be traced to West Asia.
CloeBuckingham 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham I do not know what's on the back of 10 grand note. However, right, more or less, a specific culture is dependent on others. My point here was that Korea and Japan are great copiers, while India and Greece are minimal copiers. About Chinese things? They also owe to India, and significant portions of Chinese culture weren't originally Chinese as well. I guess India is the great creator of Asian culture.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@chibasportshito True, but it is all to some degree. China got Buddhism from India, but Confucianism is home grown. They got Marxism from Germany, but neo-Confucianism and Taoism are home grown.
CloeBuckingham 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham You're right. However Neo-Marxism has nothing to do with China. Also Confucianism and Taoism are the worst set of shits that only deteriorate human intellectual capability. They're not comparable to Buddhism at all. Any country with good sense of reality, e.g., Japan, has never accepted such poor things. I guess the reason of low Chinese cultural level thesedays owes to the both shits.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@chibasportshito The fundamental difference between China and Japan is that Confucianism in China caused people to look backwards, much like scholasticism in the West. The idea of being learned was to study the great works of the past. However, what room did that leave for the development of science?
There is nothing in Japanese society or religion, in Shinto, Buddhism, or that strange mix of neo-Confucianism, that resisted change, that resisted scientific progress, that resisted technology.
CloeBuckingham 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham Most of all, in Japan, Confucianism wasn't accepted at all. Japan just studied it as a part of philosophy, not a prevaling social ethics as in China and Korea. Confucianism is a mental "cancer" or a fake philosophy that designated for the rulers to keep their thrones secured.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@chibasportshito You also find elements of that in Taoism. "Therefore the sage, in the exercise of his government, empties their minds, fills their bellies, weakens their wills, and strengthens their bones. He constantly (tries to) keep them without knowledge..."
You cannot have democracy without an educated people. You cannot even have accountability in any form of government.
I don't understand why Western "hippies" love Taoism so much. Just because of some mysterious mumbo jumbo?
CloeBuckingham 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham Yes, some hippies did, not because of its mysticism. I think hippie culture has something to do with Taoism in that both of them are "dreamy escape" from "hard reality", and that's why. Taoism reflects its historical background of ancient China: endless wars, titled. Chinese back then must have been stressed out with worry over wars, just as hippies.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham The way it affects Chinese still badly lies in its mysterious mumbo jumbos. Look at Chinese who are willing to pay big bucks to buy a root of natural ginseng as they believe since it's rare, it must have lot more medical effects. Taoism has led some Asians stupid.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@chibasportshito Did you see this? watch?v=ObPeLuFaGyw
CloeBuckingham 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham Nothing surprise as such a thing has been happening in China from early in time. Lu Xun once criticized such a Chinese mentality in his book, The True Story of Ah Q. Diverse perspectives are possible on this matter. My idea is about their history. Chinese look so homogeneous unlike Americans or French, however China is a greatly multi-ethnic society from the very beginning, even though most of Chinese claim that they're Han Chinese. (They're not in their genes)
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@chibasportshito I took Chinese history in secondary school. (The course went on forever, and we had to memorize so many dynasties.) I recall that historically, about 40% of the people living in China, which was generally smaller than today, were considered Han. So I was surprised in speaking to Chinese that they consider more than 90% to be Han. Hokkien, Hakka, all kinds of ethnicities were redefined as Han in the name of nationalism.
CloeBuckingham 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham For minorities(no matter if they belonged to ruling class just as Xianbei, Mongol, Cathay or Manchu), they claimed to call themselves as Han Chinese to rule them more efficiently as Han Chinese were majority.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham Still such a foreign rulers exploited Han Chinese. The latest Qing, the Manchu rulers, while most of them finally claimed they're Han Chinese, at the same time, they forced and exploited Han Chinese. And this kind of process has been repeated throughout the Chinese history. I think this might be the reason why Chinese put so much weight on their own families and money, while they often ignore something public.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@chibasportshito Mandarin means "language spoken by officials." It has an Altaic influence because it is from the Manchu invaders. It only has four tones, rather than up to eight like Cantonese. However, the language of the invaders became the language of the Han. Cantonese lost by one vote to Mandarin. Ironically, now people generally just call Mandarin "Chinese." It is very bad for reading ancient Chinese poetry, and sounds stilted with exaggerated tones and pauses between characters.
CloeBuckingham 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham Nope, the language of Manchu invaders has mostly disappeared(that's more like the Mongolian language). Mandarin is just a compromise between Manchu rulers and Han Chinese.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham Such a cultural mixture and alteration's inevitable when one side meets other sides. Most of people in the world see Qipao as Chinese, while it's Manchu clothes. Majority Chinese acquired foreign culture as their's while minority Manchu lost their own culture.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham Returning to the accident in China, it's because, I guess, Chinese put too much priority on their own things(family and money) than on public interests. It's highly contrasting when you see Japanese who often put their priority on public interests(country) than to their own(family). And this is why there are so many poisonous foods made in China(making money for own's family at the expense of public health), while this sort of case is extremely hard to find in Japan.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@chibasportshito But recently Japanese people are angry that the government hid facts about strontium levels in Japanese rice from Fukushima prefecture near the damaged nuclear power plant. Radioactive food and contaminated imports from China are making their way into the food supply, even with Japan's relatively strict food regulations.
CloeBuckingham 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham I bet radioactive Japanese foods are still safer than Chinese foods.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@chibasportshito No argument there. :)
CloeBuckingham 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham Unlike Korea and Japan(more severe), where considerable strength of isolation was made, thus Yakuza like high level of social collectivism was created, China has been constantly mixed with something foreign: being conquered by others or conquering others, individuals in China needed to defend themselves by their own. I guess that's why communist Chinese behave lot more like capitalists than Japanese or Korean.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
@chibasportshito During the Great Hanshin Earthquake, the yakuza were helping people. In general, they do not go after the common people, but the rich. Nevertheless, I don't like the yakuza, and recently, there is a growing Korean influence in the yakuza. Koreans in Japan also run pachinko parlors, although gambling is illegal. Koreans in Japan choose not to apply for Japanese citizenship because they would have to pay the same tax as Japanese citizens, but they want voting rights. Hypocrisy.
CloeBuckingham 4 months ago
@CloeBuckingham Korean yakuza in Japan look just like two major US mafia groups, Italian and Irish. As the late comer groups in the US, Italian and Irish had not enough chance to pay off under other European immigrants. Japanese discriminate Koreans, and it looks natural for Korean to lean to Yakuza.
chibasportshito 4 months ago
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