The 1.618 golden ratio. Allah is great and islam is the one only religion which Allah wants. Now see the golden ratio and do addition in calculator you will get the supremacy, let me do it for you all 1+6=7, 7+1=8, 8+8=16,
Guess what other city is located at the same golden mean between the poles?.....Honolulu. Mecca's not the only city. And like TheFarhad1990 points out, the other points on the map used, unlike tho poles, are highly arbitrary points not corresponding to any natural features of the Earth. The Golden Ratio is a fascinating mathematical concept, but trying to use it to prove the validity of articles of religious faith is delusional, unscientific numerology.
I am a Muslim, but Im not blindly follow what others muslim says. I've tried to do a research on this claim. but my problem is, there are too many theories on the exact location of mecca. Google earth =21.42556,39.83778. First-order Administrative Division=Long 41.33333Lat 20.66667. Wikipedia=21.416667°N 39.816667 n so many others. Some r close to Kaaba when referring to Golden point, and some a bit far. Is there any chances that the exact coordinate of Mecca is the exact point of Golden ratio?
@kurdishleader Adam,Enoch, Noah, Eber, Shelah, Abraham, Lot, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Job, Jethro, Moses, Aaron, Ezekiel, David, Solomon, Elijah, Elisha, Jonah, Zechariah, John, Jesus, Muhmmad (May peace be upon them) were all prophets of ISLAM. secondlu Abraham PBUH did not built Makkah but Ka'bah. And please respect your selves and others and dont you offensive words !!!! peace!
.......and bytheway...islam is the fastest spreading religion in the world ..........especially ...in.......AMERICA,,,,,,,,ooooopss i hope that didnt hurt ya all !!!!! go and reserch then speak out !!!!!!
To all the stupid americans and anti-muslims out there.........if u think u created maths,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,u are the dumbest ass ever,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well if u created plane....do me a favour .......create a moon,,,or kindly create a day or nite for me.......................open ur minds...things just dont happen by them self.............if u think this is stupid.........or fake...........then my sweet stupid jealousd anti muslim brothers....ur own reserchers and professors prove qurran !
this movie proved nothing. The golden ration could be used to proves any surface of the earth is the 'center'. But in reality the surface of a spherical object has not real center only a 'relative' center. Anyone who believe this is not an intelligent person. Even Muslims should be questioning the validity of this video, but clearly they want to believe it, without even understanding a word from it. Muslims are not intelligent. They never will be either if they keep blindly believing the koran.
Actually the distance assumed in the video is the SHORTEST possible distance you can get. Imagine a plane flying above Mecca, the distances given are those of the plane's flight distance to the north and south pole. And it is true that the pole does move slightly, but both poles move every year so the ratio should remain close.
As for this "Muslims are not intelligent. They never will be either if they keep blindly believing the koran." God challenges you to prove it wrong. Go ahead!
Masses of people are now, coming out in the open and accepting Islam. All Mankind and Jinn are invited to embrace Islam. You are also invited too.
“Let there be no compulsion in religion. True guidance has been made clearly distinct from error. Therefore, whoever renounces false deities and believes in Allah (God) has grasped the unfailing hand-hold. Allah (God) is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.”
@kaitoukidsama95 you are a dofus. you cannot decide that a point can be the golden ratio on a sphere, so this video is another piece of religious propaganda and lies. IF you want to find the golden ratio between the two poles the result would be a line of longitude that wraps the earth. maps aren't flat, so the second "proof" doesn't hold, and the golden ratio was discovered long before christianity, let alone islam.
@WillGo7 haha....i dont care...and its not me decide the point....becoz theres many more thing in quran about golden ratio...and even map arent flat,,,its consider flat based on the north pole and south pole..but its ok i know u guys will do anything to make islam look bad instead of looking more proof of ur religion or ur family
Well, I've done some maths as well. I plot Mecca as being roughly 7612.75km from the North Pole, and 12367.25km from the South Pole. The ratio is 1.6245. This is not the Golden Section. Distance from S. to N. poles/Distance from South Pole: 20000/12367.25 = 1.6172.
The Polar circumference is 40,008km, not 39,960, which explains the errors in this video.
Also would like to tell that mecca on earth is the most powerfulist stargate, it can be clearly seen that laylines inersect each other creating a massive spiral vortex, no wonder you feel that you have been reborn.
Sorry cant be seen by those who have not mastered the merkeba, opening of chakras.
Also would like to tell that mecca on earth is the most powerfulist stargate, it can be clearly seen that laylines inersect each other creating a massive spiral vortex, no wonder you feel that you have been reborn.
Sorry cant be seen by those who have not mastered the merkeba, opening of chakras.
Also would like to tell that mecca on earth is the most powerfulist stargate, it can be clearly seen that laylines inersect each other creating a massive spiral vortex, no wonder you feel that you have been reborn.
Sorry cant be seen by those who have not mastered the merkeba, opening of chakras.
the every thing which God has created is clearly visibile.but as the god said in Quran the non muslims no the Truth but they never come to Islam not because They think that what they are doing is right . only They are fooling theirselves
But if you do not - and you will never be able to - then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers...........continues
I dont think you read the bible just like the quran, that one statement is like you took out of the paragraph of a story book. Read the whole book to understand quran. One Surah or verse will lead you to incorrect conclusions. Take my word, seperate the hadith from the quran, until you have read the whole book.
Also this book is more like a research book, like Allah mentioned the jin being made of smokeless fire, the smokeless fire is electricity.
@nabeelmerchant There are a couple of differences between genies and electricity. Electricity is caused by the potential difference between two sources of charge. Genies are not. Oh and genIes don't exist, electricity does.
@teenspirit1 you cant tell what is real, your whole world is a mere illusion of our senses, everthing is energy in its simplist form. what you touch is not solid, please revisit physics and there are things such as jin you cant see them just likr energy. Jinn is really a semantic for demon.
@teenspirit1 Ok ok jinnies dont exist, that will make you happy :) , as long as you think they dont exist they donot exist.
Do you undersand quantum sciences ? Like quantum mechanics and metaphysics, you can learn alot, we can understand things now which mysticism use to baffle us so much. Literally most people are in a zombie level of consciousness.
@nabeelmerchant Some QEM experiments provide some of the most accurate results of all other branches of sciences. The input and the output of these experiments are predicted via feynmann diagrams and experimental results. There are equations for virtual particles and produced outcomes.
Unfortunately for you and your religion, Nowhere in these equations does it say "genies here".
@47saeed I made mistake in my calculations, this one i think is correct. Adding his distance of Mecca from North Pole and South Pole you get 19980km this seems to be out by approximately 21 km from the actual distance between north and South Pole along this longitude.
@47saeed Latitude of Mecca is 21 29 N using this and the formula (difference in latitude x 60nm x 1.852), I found the distance from the equator and hence worked out the distance from north and South Pole. My distances are 12387.43km and 7613.572km. Using these you get 1.627002838, the golden mean is (1+ √5) / 2 = 1.618033989...... My calculation puts the point 18km further north.
@47saeed do you really think that scientist would use a in accurate source such as google earth, they just used it as an example. I am pretty sure they have used accurate tools and sources to calculate.
@falsafah88 Which scientist, I could not find the same numbers as used in this video. Therefore being a sceptic I tried to work it out for myself, this does not mean I am correct and this video is wrong. I do not believe in Islam and even if everything in this video was correct, I still would still not believe in Islam. I did not use google earth.
very funny, u guys are taking the advantage of the spherical shape of the earth, according to this logic besides mecca, there are three other points that satisfy this claim, so shouldnt they also be considered equivalent?
Anyway, any division results in a rational number which cant be equal to the golden ratio which is an irrational number. On the other hand, I believe, one could call it more miraculous if either ends of the verse corresponded to the Poles, but here the number of letters up to world Mecca is divided by the whole number of the letters in the verse not the number of the letters after the word Mecca.
Third, the verses that include the word Mecca are indeed two verses not only the one mentioned (and its uniqueness emphasized) in the video. Another reference to this word exists in Fath-24. Moreover, it is not clear how the producers have come to these letter counts (Have they included repeated letters or not?).
The video then proceeds to differentiate Mecca from other similar locations by claiming the existence of a horizontal golden ratio property exclusively for Mecca. This time though the calculation reference is the conventional 2D map of the world, not a naturally important reference point such as the Earth Poles, which is quite misleading
Second, any city on the same latitude as Mecca (about 21 degrees) has the same property. I dont exactly know which cities have the same latitude, but after a simple web search I found that Rio de Janeiro and Hong Kong have almost similar latitude
hahaha dont worry next commet will hit jerusalem 1st need to distroy that place ..u watch out mr muxbox forcefully u guys can live inthe place of palestanian but u cant stop commet falling and distroying ur only holly place ..lolz
Finally, the closeness to golden ratio is not unique to Mecca. All places that have the same latitude (21 degree 25 minutes) have this property. What is the miracle here?
then Y/(X + Y) must be equal to 1.618, that is the definition of golden ratio.
The video tries to say that there are TWO geographical/mathematical "miracles" in the location of Mecca. Either the script-writer doesn't know about golden ratio, or he is dishonestly trying to "increase" the "miracle".
There are people whose bodies do not conform to the ideal shape dictated by the golden ratio. Should not these ungodly creatures be destroyed along with infidels and other abominable beings?
do you really think that scientist would use a in accurate source such as google earth, they just used it as an example. I am pretty sure they have used accurate tools and sources to calculate.
I used the ruler on google earth to calculate the distance to the north and south poles. The Ka'ba is 12,357.97 kms from the South Pole and 7623.59 from the North Pole giving a ratio of 1.621017132348 The position of the Ka'ba does not correspond to the golden ratio. This video is just inventing a supposed miracle to justify the irrational.
You're right I did the measurement and Google earth is at least 30km off. The video suggests using google earth but you're right the answer will have to take into account a margin for error of 30km. However the kaaba is more than 30km off but the point could be closer to Mecca than I first realised. Thank you for pointing out the error.
I used google earth and could easily reproduce this. Its true! And imo by far the best evidence for the quran beeing a true religion. Anyone who sees this and doesnt realize what HUGE miricale this is.. is not a man of knowledge
@lichtblicka Then your belief is based on a lie. I've done it several times and the Golden mean is in the vicinity but outside Mecca. How ironic that you need to lie to convince yourself that Islam is true.
SubhanAllah. Allah knows best if this is true. Just as Allah says, we ask for a sign, and the signs are all around us. The way our bodies work is mind-blowing! I don't understand how all doctors and nurses aren't blown away by the perfection in which our bodies work. SubhanAllah, SubhanAllah, SubhanAllah. I just remind you, brothers and sisters, do not get too caught up in numbers and figures, because Allah says "Be" and it is. We should not question why or how.
Allah written on things, and recently about 100 years ago we come to know all the scientific facts in quran are 100% true and now this Mecca golden ration of the world. is it coincidence? I dont think so cuz in Sura 41:53 Allah tells us this signs will come
No brother, I am muslim but it has several mathematical problems. Islam don't need such a stupid funny supports. I can easily prove mathematically that it is for fooling people
Please, this is like the fine tuning arguments retarted cousin. Just the same creation arguments over and over again. Even if this is true, how does it prove god at all? How do you know it wasnt the desighn of the almighty flying speggetti monster?
God told Abraham to build the house for his wife there. The fact that the house is located on the Golden median is just a coincidence okay, everything is a coincidence.
If God told Abraham and his son Ishmail to build this place, then why are there no poems, songs, or stories about *anybody* named Ibrahim or Ishmail until *after* Muhammad?
Ibrahim is Abraham in Arabic,in the OT in the OT Prophet Abe leads out his slave wife Hagar and their son Ishmael (Ismail) into the desert away from Sera who wanted Ishmael killed for she thought he wanted to kill Jacob Yacub. fyi names in the Bible are Romanized.
If no stories are recorded of this prior to Mohammad that just adds credence to the Divine revelations of the Prophet Mohammad (saw) add to that the House of Mecca on the Golden mean.
الايه المذكوره تحوي ٤٢ حرفا و ليس ٤٧ ارجوكم انتبهوا الله خالق كل شي ولا نحتاج لهذه الاكاذيب، ارجوكم يا اخواني انتبهوا. الله اكبر.
Dear Muslim brothers, please be very Careful; the Aya mentioned contains only 42 letters not 47; this is a FAKE video; please DONT forward it. Allah is the creator of all things and we dont need these lies. Allah Akbr.
U r right,ameer said that there r 42 letters + 5 shaddat = 47 which what the guy in the video claim , but i found 42 letters +6 shaddat = 48 so his calculation is faulty.Shaddah is a modifier that emphasises a letter if u put shaddah on top of b it will be spelled as bb , anyway that doesn't make it a letter,and i don't need something like that to proof to me that islam is the right religion,any fair person who approaches islam from an unbiased point of view and no presumptions will know that
Shaddah is not a letter, nor is sukkoon, hamza, or vowel signs.
In fact the older Qur'ans didn't even have long-vowels (look for photos of the Uthman Qur'an) - long vowels were added later along with diacritic dots to make the Qur'an's text more clear.
This means that those "number 19" theories are all flawed because they are based on Qur'an which is written differently to when it was "revealed".
318 views and only 2 comments?...how peculiar.I suspect some "Evolutionists" stumbled across this video and could not handle its manifest truth and ran away screaming.
Come on oh scientists! Speak up....we cant hear you!
I'm not a scientist but common logic should tell you this is false.
a) If you knew your history you'd know the golden ratio was a Greek or Roman discovery long before Islam was even started.
b) Because the world/univers has an almost infinite array of 'points' (Mecca in this case) there are an almost infinite number of correlations that can be made between those points. (Look at the billion and one explanations about the Egyptian pyramids placing etc. etc.) As for science, you should know co
.....correlations can show ANYTHING. If you believe correlational evidence as fact :
blacks are more likely to be criminals than other ethnicities.
muslims are more likely than other ethnicities to become terrorists.
I've even seen a study that showed number of stalks correlated to birth rate IS linked (for completely different reasons than the study was looking for but still backs the argument 'stalks bring babies!)
All of the above is clearly bullshit, other factors led to a correlation...
yes
benitoabdul 2 months ago
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FashionStyleEsp 8 months ago
All praises to Almighty God! news for a believer, spark for a seeker and evidence against a rejector!!!
light4good 8 months ago
Asalamwalekum,
Subhanallah, what a great video!
The 1.618 golden ratio. Allah is great and islam is the one only religion which Allah wants. Now see the golden ratio and do addition in calculator you will get the supremacy, let me do it for you all 1+6=7, 7+1=8, 8+8=16,
Subhanallah Subhanallah,
ALLAH has shown "786" mentioned in ISLAM.
Allah Haffez
haidernaqviit 8 months ago
Guess what other city is located at the same golden mean between the poles?.....Honolulu. Mecca's not the only city. And like TheFarhad1990 points out, the other points on the map used, unlike tho poles, are highly arbitrary points not corresponding to any natural features of the Earth. The Golden Ratio is a fascinating mathematical concept, but trying to use it to prove the validity of articles of religious faith is delusional, unscientific numerology.
picofarad2 8 months ago
@picofarad2 science is nothing without religion and religion is nothing without science
metruemuslim 5 months ago 6
@metruemuslim Science can stand on it's own. Religion can't. Science has all the proof there is, religion has NONE whatsoever.
Pinoylegend707 3 months ago
@metruemuslim " ... " Albert Einstein!
libcheet 2 months ago
@libcheet Al be rt Ein(K = 19. a m En).
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@picofarad2 stupid man is stupid lol this is not the only "coincidence" scientists has proven. Go back and study kid.
wsssixteen 3 months ago
This feels a bit contrived...
ultancrossan 11 months ago 3
@ultancrossan
check it man....Allah is the greatest
nihadbosnia 2 months ago
I am a Muslim, but Im not blindly follow what others muslim says. I've tried to do a research on this claim. but my problem is, there are too many theories on the exact location of mecca. Google earth =21.42556,39.83778. First-order Administrative Division=Long 41.33333Lat 20.66667. Wikipedia=21.416667°N 39.816667 n so many others. Some r close to Kaaba when referring to Golden point, and some a bit far. Is there any chances that the exact coordinate of Mecca is the exact point of Golden ratio?
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danielleonhoen 1 year ago
@Teenspirit monkey Islam begain at the time of Adam and Eve.
kurdishleader 1 year ago
@WillGo7 stupid Mecca was built by Abraham, not Muhammad! Go educate urself
kurdishleader 1 year ago
@kurdishleader
Muhammad had nothing to do with the building of Mecca, but you're right about Abraham.
TheJoopman 1 year ago
@kurdishleader yes he build it for muslims i think .. but its for islam
lUnitedstatesl 1 year ago
@kurdishleader Adam,Enoch, Noah, Eber, Shelah, Abraham, Lot, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Job, Jethro, Moses, Aaron, Ezekiel, David, Solomon, Elijah, Elisha, Jonah, Zechariah, John, Jesus, Muhmmad (May peace be upon them) were all prophets of ISLAM. secondlu Abraham PBUH did not built Makkah but Ka'bah. And please respect your selves and others and dont you offensive words !!!! peace!
myasinusman 8 months ago 2
.......and bytheway...islam is the fastest spreading religion in the world ..........especially ...in.......AMERICA,,,,,,,,ooooopss i hope that didnt hurt ya all !!!!! go and reserch then speak out !!!!!!
omerfarooq0321 1 year ago
To all the stupid americans and anti-muslims out there.........if u think u created maths,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,u are the dumbest ass ever,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well if u created plane....do me a favour .......create a moon,,,or kindly create a day or nite for me.......................open ur minds...things just dont happen by them self.............if u think this is stupid.........or fake...........then my sweet stupid jealousd anti muslim brothers....ur own reserchers and professors prove qurran !
omerfarooq0321 1 year ago
mashallah. there is no way anyone can mock this!
JnNGaming 1 year ago
the words is Makkah
itsraheel 1 year ago
this movie proved nothing. The golden ration could be used to proves any surface of the earth is the 'center'. But in reality the surface of a spherical object has not real center only a 'relative' center. Anyone who believe this is not an intelligent person. Even Muslims should be questioning the validity of this video, but clearly they want to believe it, without even understanding a word from it. Muslims are not intelligent. They never will be either if they keep blindly believing the koran.
Takaja316 1 year ago
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TheJoopman 1 year ago
@Takaja316
Actually the distance assumed in the video is the SHORTEST possible distance you can get. Imagine a plane flying above Mecca, the distances given are those of the plane's flight distance to the north and south pole. And it is true that the pole does move slightly, but both poles move every year so the ratio should remain close.
As for this "Muslims are not intelligent. They never will be either if they keep blindly believing the koran." God challenges you to prove it wrong. Go ahead!
TheJoopman 1 year ago 2
@TheJoopman i already have. Just go the faith freedom forums...
Takaja316 1 year ago
Masses of people are now, coming out in the open and accepting Islam. All Mankind and Jinn are invited to embrace Islam. You are also invited too.
“Let there be no compulsion in religion. True guidance has been made clearly distinct from error. Therefore, whoever renounces false deities and believes in Allah (God) has grasped the unfailing hand-hold. Allah (God) is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.”
-(English translation of Quran 2:256)
IQ233 1 year ago
@IQ233 Genies don't exist.
teenspirit1 1 year ago
That Mecca is the golden ratio point of planet earth.
That Kaba is the golden ratio point of the city of Mecca.
That the word 'Mecca' is at the golden ratio point of verse 3.96 of Quran.
just saying
so amazing that the Quran was created before the golden ratio was founded
kaitoukidsama95 1 year ago
@kaitoukidsama95 Euclid existed before quran.
teenspirit1 1 year ago
@teenspirit1 and what is euclid is?
kaitoukidsama95 1 year ago
@kaitoukidsama95 Euclid of Alexandria. Greek mathematician. Lived 2300 years ago.
teenspirit1 1 year ago
@teenspirit1 owh..thanx for the info...but it still amazing to see the order anyway
kaitoukidsama95 1 year ago
@kaitoukidsama95 you are a dofus. you cannot decide that a point can be the golden ratio on a sphere, so this video is another piece of religious propaganda and lies. IF you want to find the golden ratio between the two poles the result would be a line of longitude that wraps the earth. maps aren't flat, so the second "proof" doesn't hold, and the golden ratio was discovered long before christianity, let alone islam.
WillGo7 1 year ago
@WillGo7 haha....i dont care...and its not me decide the point....becoz theres many more thing in quran about golden ratio...and even map arent flat,,,its consider flat based on the north pole and south pole..but its ok i know u guys will do anything to make islam look bad instead of looking more proof of ur religion or ur family
kaitoukidsama95 1 year ago
Well, I've done some maths as well. I plot Mecca as being roughly 7612.75km from the North Pole, and 12367.25km from the South Pole. The ratio is 1.6245. This is not the Golden Section. Distance from S. to N. poles/Distance from South Pole: 20000/12367.25 = 1.6172.
The Polar circumference is 40,008km, not 39,960, which explains the errors in this video.
MAJ061785 1 year ago
Also would like to tell that mecca on earth is the most powerfulist stargate, it can be clearly seen that laylines inersect each other creating a massive spiral vortex, no wonder you feel that you have been reborn.
Sorry cant be seen by those who have not mastered the merkeba, opening of chakras.
nabeelmerchant 1 year ago
Also would like to tell that mecca on earth is the most powerfulist stargate, it can be clearly seen that laylines inersect each other creating a massive spiral vortex, no wonder you feel that you have been reborn.
Sorry cant be seen by those who have not mastered the merkeba, opening of chakras.
nabeelmerchant 1 year ago
Also would like to tell that mecca on earth is the most powerfulist stargate, it can be clearly seen that laylines inersect each other creating a massive spiral vortex, no wonder you feel that you have been reborn.
Sorry cant be seen by those who have not mastered the merkeba, opening of chakras.
nabeelmerchant 1 year ago
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nabeelmerchant 1 year ago
the every thing which God has created is clearly visibile.but as the god said in Quran the non muslims no the Truth but they never come to Islam not because They think that what they are doing is right . only They are fooling theirselves
MrJony101 1 year ago
@MrJony101 Sahih International(2:6)
Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe...... continues
47saeed 1 year ago
@MrJony101 Sahih International(2:7)
Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment.........continues
47saeed 1 year ago
@MrJony101 Sahih International(2:24)
But if you do not - and you will never be able to - then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers...........continues
47saeed 1 year ago
@MrJony101 So basically Quran says god has made me a disbeliever and then he is going to burn me forever in hell for being a disbeliever.
47saeed 1 year ago
@47saeed If you believe it to be so. Lol !
I dont think you read the bible just like the quran, that one statement is like you took out of the paragraph of a story book. Read the whole book to understand quran. One Surah or verse will lead you to incorrect conclusions. Take my word, seperate the hadith from the quran, until you have read the whole book.
Also this book is more like a research book, like Allah mentioned the jin being made of smokeless fire, the smokeless fire is electricity.
nabeelmerchant 1 year ago
@nabeelmerchant Faith makes you believe in things that do not exist. There is no Allah and there is no wisdom in Quran.
47saeed 1 year ago
@nabeelmerchant There are a couple of differences between genies and electricity. Electricity is caused by the potential difference between two sources of charge. Genies are not. Oh and genIes don't exist, electricity does.
teenspirit1 1 year ago
@teenspirit1 you cant tell what is real, your whole world is a mere illusion of our senses, everthing is energy in its simplist form. what you touch is not solid, please revisit physics and there are things such as jin you cant see them just likr energy. Jinn is really a semantic for demon.
nabeelmerchant 1 year ago
@nabeelmerchant There is a difference between energy and genies. You can detect energy, you can't detect genies. Oh, and energy exists, genies don't.
teenspirit1 1 year ago
@teenspirit1 Ok ok jinnies dont exist, that will make you happy :) , as long as you think they dont exist they donot exist.
Do you undersand quantum sciences ? Like quantum mechanics and metaphysics, you can learn alot, we can understand things now which mysticism use to baffle us so much. Literally most people are in a zombie level of consciousness.
nabeelmerchant 1 year ago
@nabeelmerchant Some QEM experiments provide some of the most accurate results of all other branches of sciences. The input and the output of these experiments are predicted via feynmann diagrams and experimental results. There are equations for virtual particles and produced outcomes.
Unfortunately for you and your religion, Nowhere in these equations does it say "genies here".
teenspirit1 1 year ago
@teenspirit1 You may be nearly correct.
nabeelmerchant 1 year ago
@MrJony101 God doesn't know about converts?
teenspirit1 1 year ago
stomme video !
Duifje131083 1 year ago
I got my own measurements and I got 1.64585. I am not saying this is correct, but I cannot confirm what this guy is saying
47saeed 1 year ago
@47saeed I made mistake in my calculations, this one i think is correct. Adding his distance of Mecca from North Pole and South Pole you get 19980km this seems to be out by approximately 21 km from the actual distance between north and South Pole along this longitude.
47saeed 1 year ago
@47saeed Latitude of Mecca is 21 29 N using this and the formula (difference in latitude x 60nm x 1.852), I found the distance from the equator and hence worked out the distance from north and South Pole. My distances are 12387.43km and 7613.572km. Using these you get 1.627002838, the golden mean is (1+ √5) / 2 = 1.618033989...... My calculation puts the point 18km further north.
47saeed 1 year ago
@47saeed do you really think that scientist would use a in accurate source such as google earth, they just used it as an example. I am pretty sure they have used accurate tools and sources to calculate.
falsafah88 1 year ago
@falsafah88 Which scientist, I could not find the same numbers as used in this video. Therefore being a sceptic I tried to work it out for myself, this does not mean I am correct and this video is wrong. I do not believe in Islam and even if everything in this video was correct, I still would still not believe in Islam. I did not use google earth.
47saeed 1 year ago
very funny, u guys are taking the advantage of the spherical shape of the earth, according to this logic besides mecca, there are three other points that satisfy this claim, so shouldnt they also be considered equivalent?
vixter1980 1 year ago
@vixter1980 logically, with a sphere, there are infinite points along a line of latitude, learn to math.
WillGo7 1 year ago
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TheFarhad1990 1 year ago
@TheFarhad1990 ok son of bitch we eared you
cacapisse 1 year ago
Anyway, any division results in a rational number which cant be equal to the golden ratio which is an irrational number. On the other hand, I believe, one could call it more miraculous if either ends of the verse corresponded to the Poles, but here the number of letters up to world Mecca is divided by the whole number of the letters in the verse not the number of the letters after the word Mecca.
TheFarhad1990 1 year ago
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TheFarhad1990 1 year ago
Third, the verses that include the word Mecca are indeed two verses not only the one mentioned (and its uniqueness emphasized) in the video. Another reference to this word exists in Fath-24. Moreover, it is not clear how the producers have come to these letter counts (Have they included repeated letters or not?).
TheFarhad1990 1 year ago 3
The video then proceeds to differentiate Mecca from other similar locations by claiming the existence of a horizontal golden ratio property exclusively for Mecca. This time though the calculation reference is the conventional 2D map of the world, not a naturally important reference point such as the Earth Poles, which is quite misleading
TheFarhad1990 1 year ago 3
Second, any city on the same latitude as Mecca (about 21 degrees) has the same property. I dont exactly know which cities have the same latitude, but after a simple web search I found that Rio de Janeiro and Hong Kong have almost similar latitude
TheFarhad1990 1 year ago 3
@TheFarhad1990 you haven't saw all the video , in 5:00 is an answer
hworang25 1 year ago
hahaha dont worry next commet will hit jerusalem 1st need to distroy that place ..u watch out mr muxbox forcefully u guys can live inthe place of palestanian but u cant stop commet falling and distroying ur only holly place ..lolz
banagalipagla 1 year ago
Perhaps when the next comet hits earth. It may hit your mapped golden mean in the region of ........ wait for it............ Mecca ! :)
MuXBoX 1 year ago
Considering the meridional circumference of earth (40,007.86 km)
and the latitude of Mecca is (21 degree 25 minutes)
Y = 7,621.275 km
X = 12,382.655 km
X/Y = 1.62475, which is close but not equal to the golden ratio.
The values mentioned in the video are
X= 7,631.68 km
Y= 12,348.32 km
The values mentioned in the video are intentionally modified to suit the purpose. Very dishonest indeed.
rahulsatyr 1 year ago
actually it's the real distance. they use more tools to calculate dis.
u claim 21 degree 25 minutes = specific values??
it's same like speed of light 299,792,458 and 3.0x10^8.
if u calculate more accurately. u'll found 1.618.
falsafah88 1 year ago
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rahulsatyr 1 year ago
Finally, the closeness to golden ratio is not unique to Mecca. All places that have the same latitude (21 degree 25 minutes) have this property. What is the miracle here?
rahulsatyr 1 year ago
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rahulsatyr 1 year ago
south pole to Mecca = X
north pole to Mecca = Y
distance between two poles = X + Y
If X/Y = 1.618
then Y/(X + Y) must be equal to 1.618, that is the definition of golden ratio.
The video tries to say that there are TWO geographical/mathematical "miracles" in the location of Mecca. Either the script-writer doesn't know about golden ratio, or he is dishonestly trying to "increase" the "miracle".
rahulsatyr 1 year ago
Google Earth comes up with exactly 1.6210 (north pole - kaaba - south pole).
Jukonja 1 year ago
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masyed3478a 1 year ago
There are people whose bodies do not conform to the ideal shape dictated by the golden ratio. Should not these ungodly creatures be destroyed along with infidels and other abominable beings?
kerozero 1 year ago
@kerozero Only if you think things that are not perfect should be destroyed.
Being human inherently means being not perfect.
sohaibx 1 year ago
do you really think that scientist would use a in accurate source such as google earth, they just used it as an example. I am pretty sure they have used accurate tools and sources to calculate.
halodudeguy117 1 year ago
I'm not sure why do we have to give some sort of scientific evdience for every other thing in Islam. It gets ridiculous at times.
funkychap 1 year ago
You should try again....
padraigomairtin 2 years ago
Now try looking it up on Google Earth!
watch?v=UL95TnxD5Ak
It's in the middle of nowhere.
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
I used the ruler on google earth to calculate the distance to the north and south poles. The Ka'ba is 12,357.97 kms from the South Pole and 7623.59 from the North Pole giving a ratio of 1.621017132348 The position of the Ka'ba does not correspond to the golden ratio. This video is just inventing a supposed miracle to justify the irrational.
padraigomairtin 2 years ago
watch?v=UL95TnxD5Ak
You are right...
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
but google eart is not a real earth , earth is not a perfect sphere
and error is around 0.1% ! is not nothing but it is great
pi 3.14 why you takent just 1.62 for phi ?
pliw 2 years ago
Sounds like you desperate to make it all fit. Google earth takes account of the fact that the Earth is not a perfect sphere.
padraigomairtin 2 years ago
sorry for my english and hi
ok look ,yes i'am muslim but i'am not muslim cause kaaba was a golden ratio in earth... if it is amazing ,if not is human error not religious error .
like muslims we should see if is right or not but 1.6 is right
1.62 is phi and is right
and the probleme is here 1.618
that make error about 0.1% from pole to pole
pliw 2 years ago
know calculate in google earth distance from pole to pole and see how is diffirent from reality 20 004 km meridional/2
you will find error about 25km
some one can prouve me if i have an error ?
pliw 2 years ago
I've checked and I can't find your 25km error. Could you explain how you found this error?
padraigomairtin 2 years ago
with google eath , distance from pole to pole
how much is ?
and look in many source what is the real distance .
pliw 2 years ago
You're right I did the measurement and Google earth is at least 30km off. The video suggests using google earth but you're right the answer will have to take into account a margin for error of 30km. However the kaaba is more than 30km off but the point could be closer to Mecca than I first realised. Thank you for pointing out the error.
padraigomairtin 2 years ago
I used google earth and could easily reproduce this. Its true! And imo by far the best evidence for the quran beeing a true religion. Anyone who sees this and doesnt realize what HUGE miricale this is.. is not a man of knowledge
lichtblicka 1 year ago
@lichtblicka Then your belief is based on a lie. I've done it several times and the Golden mean is in the vicinity but outside Mecca. How ironic that you need to lie to convince yourself that Islam is true.
padraigomairtin 1 year ago
@lichtblicka Just to be clear; I am not questioning Islam just those who make false claims.
padraigomairtin 1 year ago
The kaaba is 12358km from the south pole and 7636.79km from the north pole. 12358/7636.79 = 1.618!!
umar07888 1 year ago
SubhanAllah. Allah knows best if this is true. Just as Allah says, we ask for a sign, and the signs are all around us. The way our bodies work is mind-blowing! I don't understand how all doctors and nurses aren't blown away by the perfection in which our bodies work. SubhanAllah, SubhanAllah, SubhanAllah. I just remind you, brothers and sisters, do not get too caught up in numbers and figures, because Allah says "Be" and it is. We should not question why or how.
Maryammmm 2 years ago 3
Allah written on things, and recently about 100 years ago we come to know all the scientific facts in quran are 100% true and now this Mecca golden ration of the world. is it coincidence? I dont think so cuz in Sura 41:53 Allah tells us this signs will come
DrXoz 2 years ago
@DrXoz such as water not carrying disease and mohammed having an intinerant date (fruit) service?
Samuelthemule 2 years ago
Masha'Allâh! It's a big Sign!
Namaan63 2 years ago
No brother, I am muslim but it has several mathematical problems. Islam don't need such a stupid funny supports. I can easily prove mathematically that it is for fooling people
elmi047 2 years ago 2
It is so shameful. It is lie. It is all made, there are many fake data in this video.
elmi047 2 years ago
loser
hamaidmk 2 years ago 2
Mashallah
alldin 2 years ago
The "facts" in this video are not accurate.
For an unbiased evaluation of the Golden Ratio point on Earth watch this video...
watch?v=UL95TnxD5Ak
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
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AlRasuwl 2 years ago
Deniel will get you no where.
rahim4411 2 years ago
:S i searched for a song by southern rulerz called unbelivable and I got this....urmmmm nice one youtube haha
nos4speed 2 years ago
Please, this is like the fine tuning arguments retarted cousin. Just the same creation arguments over and over again. Even if this is true, how does it prove god at all? How do you know it wasnt the desighn of the almighty flying speggetti monster?
theathiestguy 2 years ago
God told Abraham to build the house for his wife there. The fact that the house is located on the Golden median is just a coincidence okay, everything is a coincidence.
Revert2Truth 2 years ago
If God told Abraham and his son Ishmail to build this place, then why are there no poems, songs, or stories about *anybody* named Ibrahim or Ishmail until *after* Muhammad?
I suspect it is because it is not true.
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
Ibrahim is Abraham in Arabic,in the OT in the OT Prophet Abe leads out his slave wife Hagar and their son Ishmael (Ismail) into the desert away from Sera who wanted Ishmael killed for she thought he wanted to kill Jacob Yacub. fyi names in the Bible are Romanized.
If no stories are recorded of this prior to Mohammad that just adds credence to the Divine revelations of the Prophet Mohammad (saw) add to that the House of Mecca on the Golden mean.
Research it further if you're interested.
Revert2Truth 2 years ago
so nature likes 1.618 as a ratio, so what? it likes lots of number; if it didn't, there wouldn't be a universe. reality is just maths
Huckxxx 2 years ago
even Discovery Channel says That Golden Ration of the World is Pointing at Mekka/kaba! How can U say its fake?
DrXoz 2 years ago
DrXoz, because they are being "general".
It's "generally" in Mecca (the legal Jurisdiction, not the CITY).
The original video is apparently accurate to 1%. 1% of the area of the Earth is LARGER than the country England!
Watch my video and see where the point REALLY is (to 30 decimal place precision).
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
This video is fake. PLEASE VERIFY the source. Who created this video?? What is the proof the information in it is true??
momin8888 2 years ago
momin8888
I have checked the "facts" and they are inaccurate. Look at my own video.
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
الايه المذكوره تحوي ٤٢ حرفا و ليس ٤٧ ارجوكم انتبهوا الله خالق كل شي ولا نحتاج لهذه الاكاذيب، ارجوكم يا اخواني انتبهوا. الله اكبر.
Dear Muslim brothers, please be very Careful; the Aya mentioned contains only 42 letters not 47; this is a FAKE video; please DONT forward it. Allah is the creator of all things and we dont need these lies. Allah Akbr.
mohacoco 2 years ago 4
Please clarify this for me .... we don't want flaws in the interpretation of the Qur'an ... everybody please tell me more
Anomiman 2 years ago
there is no flaws in the interpertion of the quran .... languaestic (arab language scientest) count this( aya) as 47 letter
ameeralialiali 2 years ago
"there is no flaws"
Can you tell me how many there are if you remove the long-vowels?
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
Are you an atheist from Saudi Arabia?
Revert2Truth 2 years ago
يوجد 5 شدات في هذه الاية و علماء اللغة يحسبن الشدة كحرف .....42 حرف + 5 شدات = 47
ameeralialiali 2 years ago
there are 6 shaddat in this aya so your claim is false
almafak 2 years ago
"6 shaddat" - can you explain? On 2 Arabic courses I was told that Shaddah was a letter modifier and NOT a letter, the same for Hamza.
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
U r right,ameer said that there r 42 letters + 5 shaddat = 47 which what the guy in the video claim , but i found 42 letters +6 shaddat = 48 so his calculation is faulty.Shaddah is a modifier that emphasises a letter if u put shaddah on top of b it will be spelled as bb , anyway that doesn't make it a letter,and i don't need something like that to proof to me that islam is the right religion,any fair person who approaches islam from an unbiased point of view and no presumptions will know that
almafak 2 years ago
Shaddah is not a letter, nor is sukkoon, hamza, or vowel signs.
In fact the older Qur'ans didn't even have long-vowels (look for photos of the Uthman Qur'an) - long vowels were added later along with diacritic dots to make the Qur'an's text more clear.
This means that those "number 19" theories are all flawed because they are based on Qur'an which is written differently to when it was "revealed".
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
couldn't be more agreeing :)
almafak 2 years ago
but it is not a lie. i have made my own calculation and came up with 1.621 ratio.
IceFireSoul 2 years ago
318 views and only 2 comments?...how peculiar.I suspect some "Evolutionists" stumbled across this video and could not handle its manifest truth and ran away screaming.
Come on oh scientists! Speak up....we cant hear you!
jayjay1179 2 years ago
I'm not a scientist but common logic should tell you this is false.
a) If you knew your history you'd know the golden ratio was a Greek or Roman discovery long before Islam was even started.
b) Because the world/univers has an almost infinite array of 'points' (Mecca in this case) there are an almost infinite number of correlations that can be made between those points. (Look at the billion and one explanations about the Egyptian pyramids placing etc. etc.) As for science, you should know co
BudHeadEd 2 years ago
.....correlations can show ANYTHING. If you believe correlational evidence as fact :
blacks are more likely to be criminals than other ethnicities.
muslims are more likely than other ethnicities to become terrorists.
I've even seen a study that showed number of stalks correlated to birth rate IS linked (for completely different reasons than the study was looking for but still backs the argument 'stalks bring babies!)
All of the above is clearly bullshit, other factors led to a correlation...
BudHeadEd 2 years ago
"muslims are more likely than other ethnicities to become terrorists."
fyi Muslims aren't an ethnicity lol
Revert2Truth 2 years ago
fyi, yes they are :-)
Look up the definition of "Ethnic" in the dictionary. People of a religion are an ethnicity; you are probably thinking about Race.
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
I always thought Ethnicity referred to cultures and race. I'll have to buy a new dictionary.
Revert2Truth 2 years ago
Yeah, me too. I made a bit of an ass of myself on a video too :-)
I always use dictionary[dot]com to corroborate things first these days :-)
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
Subhaan Allah
sharopolo 2 years ago
great
Ariji86 2 years ago 2