Reminds me of my Grandpa, died while being read his favorite verse, surrounded by family and love. This bring tears to my eyes, God is in charge and forever will be, and will not let you go. Nothing, not even cancer, could separate my Grandpa from God.
This song reminds me that Jesus died for me, and for that I must be what he wants me to be. And it also reminds me that I must follow God's commandmets if i love him.
Jesus is so amazing, so wonderful, so awesome. There is so much love out ahead, so much goodness. Abundant love, lavish goodness, deep peace and quietness and assurance. The greatness of the King abounding in grace, His limitless kindness increasing forever.
@getzun Daniel 8, "The vision refers to the time of the end". Using the bible's explanation of the vision, as dictated by Gabriel it describes events that have happened, exactly as told in the bible, yet no end.the man who first recognised these events as happening thought it would be the end of the world had a following of millions, some of his closest followers split off to form other religions, Jehova's whitnesses. The described events all took place, word for word in about 1844. yet no end.
@wallyofjericho Yeah... shame is they claim it was secret, but Jesus said everyone would see it - it would be like lightening, and you wouldn't miss it!
Seek the Lord while he may be found; call upon while he is near; let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; let him return to the Lord, that he may have compassion oh him, and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. Isaiah 55:6&7
What sorrow awaits those who argue with their Creator. Does a clay pot argue with its maker? Does the clay dispute with the one who shapes it, saying Stop, youre doing it wrong! Does the pot exclaim How clumsy can you be? How terrible it would be if a newborn baby said to its father, Why was I born?...This is what the Lord says-the Holy One of Israel and your Creator:Do you question what I do for my children? Do you give me orders about the work of my hands? Isaiah 45:9-12
Lizazoon: "to bolster your ego". You're really reaching now. I just want you to know, there's no convincing you just like there's no convincing me. I have been praying for you that God Himself will reveal Himself to you. That's the only way you'll ever believe. Satan has already hardened your heart. Only God can break the chains and turn your stone heart to soft clay. ok, go ahead and make fun of the stuff I wrote this time too. It doesn't bother me because I am in the truth.
@lizazoon - So according to you we're supposed to be able to do whatever we want and God's supposed to just come in and fix all of our screw ups? Why? Why does anyone deserve anything better? If the world was perfect, what purpose would there be for a Savior? And who are you to say what God SHOULD do, and if you don't believe in God, try and prove there isn't. I think you just blame God. You expect if he's real; to be your personal genie granting your every wish, but HE's God. Not you thankfully
lizazoon: 1 Corinthians 1:27-29 "God deliberately chose things the world considers foolish in order to shame those who think they are wise. God chose things despised by the world, things counted as nothing at all, and used them to bring to nothing what the world considers important, so that no one can ever boast in the presence of God."
lizazoon: The bible actually talks about people like you! In 1 Corinthians 1:19 "I will destroy human wisdom and discard their most brilliant ideas. So where does this leave scholars, and the worlds brilliant philosophers and debaters? God has made them all look foolish and shown their wisdom to be useless nonsense. Since God saw to it that the world would never find Him through human wisdom, he has used our foolish preaching to save all who believe."
Yeah, I get your sarcasm, but you know good and well that the bible means, "supposed" foolishness that the world, or un-believers think the gospel is. The fact that you're so hostile proves that you're just a miserable person with no meaning to life. It only proves my point. There's no point arguing back and forth. Sadly, one day when you die and stand before Jesus, you'll hear, "depart from me, you cursed, I never knew you." I hope you find Jesus before that day. I'll pray for you
lizazoon: Wow. Here's my response to your hostility toward Christians and to YOUR creator. (Whether you believe it or not does not make it any less true.) The age old question that people like you have about "why would a good God cause suffering, etc". What do you think sending His only beloved Son to suffer and die a horrible death for YOU, only for you to scoff and reject Him says about His character. There's so much about God you haven't even tried to learn or seek.
In Proverbs it says, "Do not throw your pearls to swine." Just remember that. Don't get in pointless arguments with those whose opinions are not going to change. Present the gospel, and leave God to the rest. Humans can not persuade nor dissuade anything within the heart, only God calls those to him whom he chooses. God bless.
absolutely. he woke them up to his sin and gave hundreds of believers an opportunity to serve. Hopefully, looking at their destruction will bless us as a reminder of our fragality. and right now, he's drowning you in his unbearably powerful love.
you know what, he has woken me up to his love. and i've absolutely fallen in love with my savior and creator. I'm not going to comment any more on this beautiful movie, but I want you to know that God has an intense love for you, and that I'm not trying to prove you wrong. I'm trying to show a little of that love to you.
christfollower4x4: I know what you are talking about, sir. And when you have my age, you probably will have experienced, that what you are going through now is just an illusion.
@lizazoon I'm not one to get involved in conversations like this, I think they're pointless, but you clearly only want to make people mad and start arguments. You're the one who needs to be awakened. Whenever anything bad like this happens, you blame God. How come you/we never blame humans? We've destroyed the earth, and yet you blame God for something that could have been caused by us and our ravaging the land, searching for oil, etc. But that doesn't work for you cuz it doesn't blame God
The words to this song are so beautiful.That my name is graven on his hands... I can easily visualize it....My name and others..The great High priest whose name is 'Love' has my name embedded in His hands!!...more than just a tattoo! I am forever indebted to this King who died for me! Thank you my sweet King!
GREAT SONG. could you please send it to me? I want to make I video like this to post on both of my pages. I've been wanting to make one for a long time but I don't know where to get a Christian song. I would really appreciate it. : ) GOD BLESS!
@lizazoon i think the bible actually says pure gold and it has the sea of glass flowing form it, it has 24 thrones surrouding it with 24 elders sitting on them look up Revelation when Heaven is opened to John
Few songs can be considered perfect depictions of the relationship we share with our blessed Lord.... Songs like I can only Imagine, Amazing Grace and Before the throne of God Above come to mind. I owe all I am to my savior and stand in awe daily at what He did for me individually. People of the United States wake up and realize we are a blessed nation and light to all of the world. Use your remaining breath to proclaim the mighty word of God. There will come a day when every knee will bow.
No, there is no sin any greater than another. Christ can and will and does forgive anyone who asks. Below him, all is worthless. There is no sin greater than any other. Sin is sin is sin. Don't rank sins, it makes it harder to love. Besides, God doesn't.
Maybe there is no sin greater than another, but the only sin you are ever truly accountable for is not believing/having faith in Jesus. That is the deciding factor. In terms of accountability, all other sin is irrelevant.
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. As a christian, you're accountable for not telling people about Jesus. We're accountable for everything we do. The only difference is we've accepted forgiveness. No sin is irrelevant.
@Hydermard, well said. I have been trying to get this thru to people who say, "I will be ok, I haven't murdered anyone". We all sin, even in petty ways. THANK YOU Jesus, because I know that I cannot do this alone.
You're not alone, brother, there are believers with the message all around. The problem is when the message gets a little distorted or confused in the minds of our fellows. Stay patient and your brothers and sisters will listen to you. Even if it takes a little while. Search passages on the internet to back yourself up and leave them around. Sounds bitchy, but this is quite important. God bless, brother.
"3When we put its into the mouths of horses to make them obey us, we can turn the whole animal. 4Or take ships as an example. Although they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are steered by a very small rudder wherever the pilot wants to go. 5Likewise the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark.
6The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell. 7All kinds of animals, birds, reptiles and creatures of the sea are being tamed and have been tamed by man, 8but no man can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.9With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness.
10Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be. 11Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring? 12My brothers, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.
Please man, if you're going to represent the name of Jesus Christ wherever you go, you must tame your tongue! Subject to popular opinion, the word "b__chy" is a curse word, and should not be said by a slave of Christ. Thanks man, take care. :)
There is a difference between swearing and cursing. For it to be a curse word, it's motivation must be to offend. I swear, but i do not curse. There is nothing wrong with swearing, and in fact Paul swore fairly often if you translate literally. The meanings of words change, and so it makes no sense to give power to a word. The evil lies in the motivation and the desired effect, not the word itself. Having said that, I realise that some may have been offended and for that I apologise. God bless.
That's why the Bible talks about building your brothers, and not taking them down. Being careful about speaking cruelly when it is not good for someone to hear it. Swearing is very useful, and is an important part of our language. I understand your argument, and it is a good one, I just respectfully disagree. Don't worry so much about the words as the meaning behind them. Someone can swear all day and save a man, and another can say the sweetest words and watch them burn their brother.
Proverbs says that the slap of a friend is better than honey from an enemy, for the violation is pure and what seems pure is a violation. It's all about motivation, and that verse is as linguistic as it is physical. If it takes swearing to make a point, then I won't hesitate. The point is more important. But as always, Jesus Christ is Lord of my heart, and will remain so, however I express it. God Bless.
Oh my blessed Saviour Jesus. How can i ever thank you for what you have done for me? My blessed High Priest. i love u from the bottom of my heart. U died for a miserable wretch like me, shed your precious blood to set me free. Jesus i love u. thank you for loving me.
Sublime and inspired. Like "Be Thou My Vision," written by an Irish composer! It refreshes more deeply than a lot of the gooey "Jesus is my girlfriend" stuff out these days because it is grounded in Scripture. I never get tired of it.
this is just one of the old songs that have a simple, but amazing message. Everytime I hear this song it fills me with love and hope just because of the message Christ is my Savior and my God and He has forgiven me for every stupid thing I have ever done. God Bless :)
U know we can debate day and night about the existence f God etc but it will not changed a unbelievers as long as they close their heart. If their not born again, all this will be foolishness for them. It's not thru knowledge man get to know or believe in God but it's thru Faith only. How can finte being understand the Infinite Being?? Anyway God sheeps shall hear his voice. God bless u all
Yes I agree! You could spend your whole life debating about God, but it is not this that makes you believe, and saves you. It is experiences outside of your senses.
Even in the time of the entire existence of mankind you could not fully understand God.
I thank God for this wonderful inspirational music. But i must say as i follow the conversation. I wonder why we christian try to convinced unbelievers about the existance of God and Deity of Jesus Christ. Many historians (believers and unbelievers)have stated that Jesus eventually existed.
Matthew 28:19 "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations" ,
Mark 16:15 "He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation"
I've just come from a conference where there was a talk on the parable of the ten minas (Luke 19:11-27) I encourage you to read that as well.
Please Don't give up in your evangelism I come from a completely non Christian background and I am now saved because my friend took the time to explain Jesus to me.
I don't mean to take away from the beauty of this video or bombard a0eoj with facts and stats and whatever. But there's no facts nessecary for me to tell you that Jesus existed and exists alongside God. If you told me you knew a girl named Angela, I'd believe you. You don't have to describe her or give me proof of her existance for me to believe you. I'm telling you, I know God. I know Jesus. I have encountered him. That proff cannot be denied. No, it's not heracy.
The only reason Christians seek to share the Gospel with those who do not know their Father is that He has put a Song in our hearts to do so. We remember what it was like to not know Him and how bad it sucks to not know Him. He is the greatest gift. He is our Prize. What i do not understand is where/what is the drive that atheist/agnostics/ and the like to disprove Christians and Jesus and God's existence? Where does it come from and why? Atleast Christians' outreach have an end purpose.
We have more reason than that for sharing the gospel, we have been commanded to , we also do it for the glory of God, and because we have compassion for people, you see, not only is knowing Jesus a great joy, the bible talks of something called hellfire that we all deserve (yes, including me), and Jesus offers a way to avoid that hellfire. I'd have to hate someone to not try and show them the way to escape the fire.
The answer to why they try to disprove the Truth is they love darkness. Christians and Christ expose their sin because light will always reveal darkness. They hate righteousness and want to hold to their sin. And it is true, they really do not know what they are missing, nor can they know. The veil of sin and guilt blocks the light. When Jesus plucks one out of the world, then they can know life and freedom.
Heres some evidence for you. Look at all the videos on youtube that have anything to do with Christianity. There i am sure you will find Non Christians and Christians debating Jesus's existence. The fact people are debating His existence itself, to me, shows how broken we are. Jesus was sent to fix this and anyone who has a relationship with Him can attest that He has changed their heart or is changing their heart in ways not possible on their own (ie. determination, mind set).
a0eoj- I have another question for you. Why not Christianity? If you were to full-heartedly follow Christ in which you currently don't believe? What would you lose? I know that I have a much better destiny in following Christ than wasting my life trying to disprove him.
I Thank You Lord, for sending You'r ONLY Son to die for us!! I love you Jesus for SACRAFISING You'r Life so I can live!!! Praise Be To The King of Kings!!!
Beautiful video! Praise God, He is the everlasting Saviour of the world. He came unto His own and His own received Him not. What a pity. The bonds of sin so entangle a person that many would rather cling to wickedness than come to the light of Jesus. Truth be told much rejection of Christ is simply rebellion of wanting to do things that people want, instead of obeying the Lord. Disobedience is a "god" for many. How sad. The eternal destination for disobedience IS hell.
To a0eoj: I'm not sure why you would say this except to mock, but I challenge to actually study the evidence regarding Jesus' words, life, death, and even his resurrection. Also, study the bibliographical and historical evidence for the New Testament. I assure you that one cannot take an honest look at the evidence and easily dismiss it. I hope you will pursue the truth, and embrace it when you actually find it.
As to your "drink his blood" note: This is a metaphor. It is not literal.
Paintgonzo1 - Of course I was mocking; Christianity is an awful hoax. Who are you trying to fool? There isn't sufficient evidence of a historical Jesus. Contrary to your frivolous assertions, I don't see how anyone can look at the evidence, rather the lack thereof, and still believe the Christian myth.
a0eoj--Thanks for your reply. I hope you don't think I'm trying to be a jerk. I simply like discussion. I few questions for clarification: 1) What do you mean by hoax? That is, who is pulling hoax, and when, and why? 2) How sufficient would sufficient evidence have to be, and what part of the historical Jesus lacks this "sufficient" evidence? His life? His words? The resurrection? The New Testament? Surely you can't mean all of these, for then you're in danger of overstating your case.
Paintgonzo - A hoax is something intended to deceive, as in a fraud. Christianity is a fraud of the age. It serves to detach people from the natural world. It supports blind submission to authority. It reduces human responsibility to the effect that Yahweh and Jesus control everything. And in turn, awful crimes can be justified in the name of a divine pursuit. Most importantly, it empowers those who know the truth, but use the myths to manipulate and control society.
a0eoj: Thanks for clarifying a little. First, I'm not sure what Christianity you are referring to. It seems you are drawing an overgeneralization which is not true. When you say "Blind submission to autority," to which authroity do you refer? In addtion, what do you mean by "aweful crimes" and "in the name of divine pursuit?" I'm not trying to grasp at straws, but I want to know where you are coming from. Thanks.
Paintgonzo1 - Sufficient evidence of a historical Jesus would conclusively prove his existence. Christianity is merely dogma based on the Bible, which doesn't prove anything. As a matter of fact, the Bible is full of absurdities, contradictions, and awful atrocities.
The resurrection? You can't prove Jesus ever lived. It's absurd to think you could prove his supposed resurrection.
His words? A Bible, with Jesus's supposed words highlighted with red ink, doesn't mean Jesus existed.
a0eoj: I believe there is sufficient evidence for one to believe that Jesus lived, died, and resurrected (this discussion may take a while). We can discuss each of these in time I suppose. A few remarks though: First, it's not correct to say that Christianity is "mere dogma based on the Bible." While this may be partially correct, Christiainity is also based on history (as is the Bible). In other words, they depend on history of real events. .............
a0eoj: When you say "prove Jesus ever lived," do you mean prove beyond a doubt or provide reasonable evidence? The former is a very unreasonable request, for there are few things that we can"prove." The latter is quite appropriate, and it can be demonstrate, using extra-biblical sources that the Jesus in the NT was a historical person. By extra-biblical evidence, I'm referring to Philo, Josephus, Tacitus, and others. Jesus' existence is adequately documented by historians.
Paintgonzo1 - Sorry, but I don't have the patience to answer all your trivial questions. I will however refute your assertion that Philo, Josephus, and Tacitus provide credible evidence of a historical Jesus.
You're mistaken about Philo. The Jewish historian Philo, who lived in the first half of the 1st century, fails to mention Jesus, as do other major contemporary writers.
a0eoj - First, I apoloize for the Philo reference, I meant Pliny the Younger. I was attempting to recall from memory what I have studied. I do not have my notes with me, so I will look into that later. Regarding Josephus, there are at least two version of Testimonium Flavianum--Greek and Arabic. You are referring to the Greek version, which does have considerable alterations. The Arabic version, however, does not.
Paintgonzo1 - The Arabic version was written by Agapius the historian, a 10th-century Arabic Christian and Melkite bishop of Hierapolis Bambyce. Agapius appears to be paraphrasing, for even Josephus' title is an approximation. In addition, Agapius explicitly claims that his work was based on a lost, older Syriac chronicle by Theophilus of Edessa.
Agapius can't possibly provide credible evidence for the historicity of Jesus; it's just hearsay and 1,000 years after the supposed facts.
Paintgonzo1 - There are only references to Christians in the letters of Pliny the Younger; they give no specific information about the founder, the elusive Jesus. Besides that, Pliny the Younger was born after the supposed death of Jesus. Again, this is just hearsay. Perhaps you don't understand the problem with hearsay, and why it's not permitted in a court of law. If hearsay was acceptable evidence, I could just take your word for it, and believe in Jesus, just because you say he's real.
a0eoj - The Arabic version, while a later copy, more closely resembles what Josephus actually wrote. My point is to show that the Testimonium Flavianum, while suffering from interpolations by later Christians, is largely seen by scholars as Josephus' writing. There are arguments both for and against authenticity, but most scholars agree Josephus wrote something about Jesus. Josephus' later reference to James presuposes this. If you would like some sources on this, I can provide them.
a0eoj - You seem to demand that historians live in the same time period as the their subjects. This is unnecessary in the realm of history. As I said before, courts of law and courts of history are very different. Regarding Pliny, he desribes the practices of Christians and how they viewed Jesus. My point here is to show that as early the 2nd century there are numerous references, to Jesus and his followers. I'm merely attempting to show that there is evidence for his existence.
Paintgonzo1 - I realize this must be difficult for you to understand, as it's only the "believers" that think these references are credible evidence of a historical Jesus. You haven't provided ANY evidence that Jesus actually lived. These references that you admire simply indicate that Christian believers existed, just as they do today. In addition, these references are merely evidence that ancient Christians worshipped a Christ, and most likely a Christ that only existed in a mystical realm.
a0eoj - On the contrary, Tacitus specifically references Jesus as the leader of the Christian movement, for which he was executed under Pilate. You claim this is mere hearsay, but the majority of New Testament scholars (both liberal and conservative) would disagree with you. In fact, the majority of historians would disagree with your position that there is no evidence for Jesus' existence--Marcus Borg and John Domonic Crossan to name two non-Christians.
Paintgonzo1 - It doesn't seem as though you understand what hearsay is, nor do you seem to understand why the Tacitus reference to Jesus is mere hearsay.
Hearsay is unverifiable information acquired from another and not part of one's direct knowledge.
Since Jesus was supposedly crucified more than 20 years before Tacitus was born, it would've been impossible for Tacitus to have first-hand knowledge of Jesus. Tacitus would have relied on information he received from others - hearsay.
A0eoj I completely understand what you define as hearsay, but your definition does not apply to the evidence we have discussed. You personally may define these citations as hearsay, but as I said before, the weight NT and historical scholarship do not. It appears we may agree to disagree. I have appreciated our discussion, you are very knowledgable, and you have challenged me to be a better student of this issue. For that I thank you, and I give you the last word.
Hi. Your hearsay argument applies also to most important people in past history. Even to you in a couple of years...
Not that it would help you to discover any "non-hearsay" evidence that Jesus actually existed. You would then just dismiss him as a nice rabbi of the first century who probably died a painful death and that was it. If Christ had revealed himself to you, alive and powerful to save, to heal, to deliver and to change your life you would fall to your knees and cry. I pray he does.
Paintgonzo1 - Josephus lived 37-100 CE. How can he possibly provide anything but hearsay? The Antiquities of Josephus contain two references to Jesus. The text comprising the first reference to Jesus, the Testimonium Flavianum, only states that Jesus was the founder of a sect, but this verse has language not typical of Josephus. Grammatical analysis indicates significant differences with the passages that come before and after it. This Jesus reference was likely altered or added by someone else.
Paintgonzo1 - The second reference states that in the year 62 CE, the newly appointed high priest "convened the judges of the Sanhedrin and brought them a man called James, the brother of Jesus who was called the Christ."
Anyway, like I've already mentioned, the references supposedly made by Josephus are, at best, just hearsay and wouldn't even be allowed as evidence in a court of law, much less as evidence of a supernatural godman.
Paintgonzo1 - Tacitus (circa 117) refers to some people, known as Christians, and the originator of that name, Christus, had been executed when Tiberius was emperor by the order of Pontius Pilate.
It has been pointed out by experts (on both sides) there is no way to tell where Tacitus got the information for this passage, but there are hints in the passage that the information did not come from Roman records.
Anyway, this is also just heasay, and wouldn't be allowed in a court of law.
I find it odd that you keep referring to a "court of law." Courts of law and courts of history of very different. Sources which report of people and events within a century of their supposed occurences are very strong evidences of historicity, especially when there are multiples sources attesting to the same person or event. I'm not attempting to prove beyond all doubt that Jesus existed. I'm simply providing basic historical evidence that he did.
Paintgonzo1...I do not know you or your heart, but from what I have seen of your writtings you are plowing the feild for the Lord. Keep caring for people and submitting to GOD.
I have found however that evidential argument in of itself is never enough. So like Spurgeon said let the Lion loose and it will defend itself.
osiokonkwo - Thanks for your kind words. Yes, in these discussion, evidential arguments are never enough. The Spirit of God must ultimately change the heart. I appreciate your encouragement.
a0eoj - I say this with love. You want the existence of the Christ to be proven to you. That God walked the earth as a carpenter and laid down his life so as to reconcile his children to himself.
Dear one, this is not a cognitive exercise. Because you have obviously dealt with the material and refuse to see (Yet you read of Ceasar and believe). These are spiritual things and as far as you keep fighting the spiritual with your human arguments you will not see it.
osiokonkwo - In case you couldn't tell from my writing, I'm an atheist. Not only do I deny the existence of any god, even your special sky daddy - Yahweh, I seriously doubt the existence of Jesus Christ. Hopefully you'll understand that I don't say this to be hateful, I'm simply refuting unsupported non-sense of religious people. You can pray til the cows come home, but a little evidence would be preferred. Thanks
I could tell from your writing that you would identify yourself as atheist. I would say u suppress the knowledge of God.
1 Cor 1: 22-25 - Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength.
a0eoj - U spend so much time trying to disprove the King, u are not the first. U say u want evidence. You have it. You probably know the material more than some professing believers. The problem is that you continue trying to interpret it based on ur finite self and your desires and plans.
At the appointed time, he will take ur breath away and an accounting of all ur knowlegde will be demanded. What did you do with it? Stop looking for a formless, mindless deity, thats y u cnt find him.
osiokonkwo - I ask for evidence, and you just give me more rhetoric. In light of religious peoples' tendency to believe things without evidence, it's not surprising that you'd believe stories of a virgin birth and resurrection. As far as I'm concerned, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
If you're so persuaded by fanciful rhetoric, then why not believe the Quran or the Bhagavad Gita?
a0eoj - you call it rheotoric, I live and breathe this everyday. Unfortunately because of the cultural Christianity in the US, you must anticipate that I am some unread person. When I became a christian, I investigated everything and not just christianity but all major religions.
Quran - the same reason I would not go to France to learn about George Washington, I will not go to Mecca to learn of Moses.
Bhagavad Gita - is pluralistic and dies the death of 1000 qaulifications.
You're asking for evidence, signs and wonders, and miracles. But listen to what Jesus is recorded to say "And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." 'He who has ears, let him hear...." The best mind blowing evidence you'll ever get is when and if, you allow Him to speak to your heart., so, go ahead and ask Him....the one you don't believe in...just in case you're wrong..ask Him... to show Himself to you.
If you but humble yourselves repent and seek the Lord Jesus Christ with your whole heart and ask Jesus Christ to be saved. To be washed clean of all your sins and a new heart established. All who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. It is a proof, a fact, that Jesus Christ is real for all who have heard the knock and opened the door. I will tell you, I have all of the proof I need, a relationship with my God. It is more certain that any scientific theory. I felt Him, I feel Him.
Christianity is the only belief that there is no other way but through Jesus Christ. There is no other name by which you must be save (Jesus Christ). All other religions seek to make you better by having you make yourself better. Only Christianity (Jesus Christ) offers us what we can't do ourselves. I died on that cross with Christ and now I live through Him. There are many sins I could not overcome, but He overcame those sins for me. Call on the name of the Lord and thou shall be SAVED.
in the book of acts the man who educated paul says "if this is god, then it will disapear and be gone, but if this is god then it will endure, and i dont want to be the one waging opn war on god" and obviously its endured for over 2000 years, so what conclusion would we draw from this? ill let you do the math, its not too hard.
Funny, you talk about not wasting my life when I know I am doing the opposite... I wish I could speak in person to you people, you know what I mean, right?
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Jesus was a normal man. He was killed by Romans because he was either insane or a liar, no one knows which. He's a plagiarism of Horus of the Egyptian faith. A lot of religions seem to have plagiarised the Egyptian faith. So, you're believing in a madman and/or a liar, who didn't die for you, he died because he was either crazy or just loved publicity. If you continue to follow Christianity, you are naught but fools. Do not be sucked in. Do not give up your life for something that doesn't exist.
also, Christianity is no different from other religions (IF u deny Christ & his resurrection). so ur "assault" should be on all religions. that being said, many people turn to religion cuz they find the things in the world don't make sense, & they realise & acknowledge that there is a greater order other than themselves. right or wrong, the proof is in the pudding. often many reject religion cuz they want to be god & not submit to a greater authority, God (whichever religion it may be).
blufenix makes a good point, im a christian and i like to think i have an educated faith rather than because i want thier to be a god. If jesus was a madman-hes done preety good to have millions of people follow him. if he wasnt god he was arguably one of the greatest men ever to of lived-and not one person has ever found his body and where he died...somthing there doesnt add up to me?
My name is graven on His hands?? My name is written in His heart?? O how can it be!!!
Who am I, Lord, that thou art mindful of me??
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Thankyou Lord Jesus for the Eternal Life and Joy you have given me <3
TheLostincreativity 1 month ago
Reminds me of my Grandpa, died while being read his favorite verse, surrounded by family and love. This bring tears to my eyes, God is in charge and forever will be, and will not let you go. Nothing, not even cancer, could separate my Grandpa from God.
AdmiralBeans 2 months ago
I listen to this when I am sad, and realize Jesus had it worse. Amen. I love God.
My name IS written on his heart.
AllEmilysRock 3 months ago 3
to God be the glory amen amen amen in a loud voice let it be heard by all amen
whiritakz 4 months ago
This song is great! I have it in my favorites.
agentang 5 months ago
AMEN and AMEN!!!!!
TheSmellon1 5 months ago
I love this song!!!
This song reminds me that Jesus died for me, and for that I must be what he wants me to be. And it also reminds me that I must follow God's commandmets if i love him.
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
gabynica5 1 year ago 4
<3
emilyf231 1 year ago
1 John 1:9 (King James Version) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Thank You, my Precious Lord Jesus Christ for dying for my sins...!!!
kkkkkkatherine 1 year ago 10
amen and amen
sweetsmile73 1 year ago
GOD IS GOOD........ALL THE TIME.
MrAbel1111 1 year ago 3
GOD gave us HIS son to save us from hell's damnation...
haneylorenzo08 1 year ago 8
00:58 AMEN to that!
Diana2die4 1 year ago
Jesus is so amazing, so wonderful, so awesome. There is so much love out ahead, so much goodness. Abundant love, lavish goodness, deep peace and quietness and assurance. The greatness of the King abounding in grace, His limitless kindness increasing forever.
Ferrante1978 1 year ago 3
Que toute la Gloire soit rendue à notre Dieu... Amen
Comment s'appelle cette chanson en français?
ptitegripee 1 year ago
@ptitegripee S'appelle Devant le Trône de très Haut
guineapig1985 1 year ago
@guineapig1985 Merci j'avais trouvé entre temps.... Que Dieu te bénisse.
ptitegripee 1 year ago
this song reflects the character of Jesus... its beautiful and true
89mikeymike89 1 year ago 2
I love jesus
mygaccountmail 1 year ago 2
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Aeon "forced to fuck your god!! He wants it up his ass!!! Heaven is for FAGGOTS!!!!! Holy paradise!!!!" lmao god can suck it
Scars831 1 year ago
9 People Clicked the wrong button o_O
JusheisPwn 1 year ago
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IWorship 1 year ago
@wallyofjericho there will rise up false prophets , ummm thats why God said no man Knoweth the time or hour , and his comming will be very visable
PUSHUP2YA 1 year ago
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fuck you and your god
Sambucacat 1 year ago
nice beautiful song!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
14t9h01 1 year ago
shame we missed the secong comming of jesus. happened in 1844 apparently. shame it passed us by. never mind though..
wallyofjericho 1 year ago
@wallyofjericho What in the world are you talking about?
getzun 1 year ago
@getzun Daniel 8, "The vision refers to the time of the end". Using the bible's explanation of the vision, as dictated by Gabriel it describes events that have happened, exactly as told in the bible, yet no end.the man who first recognised these events as happening thought it would be the end of the world had a following of millions, some of his closest followers split off to form other religions, Jehova's whitnesses. The described events all took place, word for word in about 1844. yet no end.
wallyofjericho 1 year ago
@wallyofjericho there will rise up false prophets , ummm thats why God said no man Knoweth the time or hour , and his comming will be very visable
PUSHUP2YA 1 year ago
@wallyofjericho Yeah... shame is they claim it was secret, but Jesus said everyone would see it - it would be like lightening, and you wouldn't miss it!
gooseholla1 1 year ago
when i listen this song,how love god for us.
johnmangno 1 year ago
I love this song! I love when we sing it in church!
psalm121psalm135 1 year ago
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Seek the Lord while he may be found; call upon while he is near; let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; let him return to the Lord, that he may have compassion oh him, and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. Isaiah 55:6&7
wycliffetranslator 1 year ago
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What sorrow awaits those who argue with their Creator. Does a clay pot argue with its maker? Does the clay dispute with the one who shapes it, saying Stop, youre doing it wrong! Does the pot exclaim How clumsy can you be? How terrible it would be if a newborn baby said to its father, Why was I born?...This is what the Lord says-the Holy One of Israel and your Creator:Do you question what I do for my children? Do you give me orders about the work of my hands? Isaiah 45:9-12
wycliffetranslator 1 year ago
Praise Jesus He is ALIVE!!
Justme2bme 1 year ago 2
brendaphilip: There are a few words in your comments that make sense--- I`ll pray for you "-- all the rest is bs. to bolster your ego.
lizazoon 1 year ago
Lizazoon: "to bolster your ego". You're really reaching now. I just want you to know, there's no convincing you just like there's no convincing me. I have been praying for you that God Himself will reveal Himself to you. That's the only way you'll ever believe. Satan has already hardened your heart. Only God can break the chains and turn your stone heart to soft clay. ok, go ahead and make fun of the stuff I wrote this time too. It doesn't bother me because I am in the truth.
brendaphilip 1 year ago
@brendaphilip
johnmangno 1 year ago
@lizazoon - So according to you we're supposed to be able to do whatever we want and God's supposed to just come in and fix all of our screw ups? Why? Why does anyone deserve anything better? If the world was perfect, what purpose would there be for a Savior? And who are you to say what God SHOULD do, and if you don't believe in God, try and prove there isn't. I think you just blame God. You expect if he's real; to be your personal genie granting your every wish, but HE's God. Not you thankfully
HipHop06031987 1 year ago
That is the most beautiful song I've ever heard.
ManleyMan2009 1 year ago
lizazoon: 1 Corinthians 1:27-29 "God deliberately chose things the world considers foolish in order to shame those who think they are wise. God chose things despised by the world, things counted as nothing at all, and used them to bring to nothing what the world considers important, so that no one can ever boast in the presence of God."
brendaphilip 1 year ago
lizazoon: The bible actually talks about people like you! In 1 Corinthians 1:19 "I will destroy human wisdom and discard their most brilliant ideas. So where does this leave scholars, and the worlds brilliant philosophers and debaters? God has made them all look foolish and shown their wisdom to be useless nonsense. Since God saw to it that the world would never find Him through human wisdom, he has used our foolish preaching to save all who believe."
brendaphilip 1 year ago
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lizazoon 1 year ago
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brendaphilip 1 year ago
I agree, the foolish say there is no God. How many on You Tube have been told over and over again yet they just laugh and walk away.
When the Christians are taken up to heaven will they still be laughing? Or will they be weeping and crying out..Too Late!!
Daphdong1 1 year ago
Yeah, I get your sarcasm, but you know good and well that the bible means, "supposed" foolishness that the world, or un-believers think the gospel is. The fact that you're so hostile proves that you're just a miserable person with no meaning to life. It only proves my point. There's no point arguing back and forth. Sadly, one day when you die and stand before Jesus, you'll hear, "depart from me, you cursed, I never knew you." I hope you find Jesus before that day. I'll pray for you
brendaphilip 1 year ago
lizazoon: Wow. Here's my response to your hostility toward Christians and to YOUR creator. (Whether you believe it or not does not make it any less true.) The age old question that people like you have about "why would a good God cause suffering, etc". What do you think sending His only beloved Son to suffer and die a horrible death for YOU, only for you to scoff and reject Him says about His character. There's so much about God you haven't even tried to learn or seek.
brendaphilip 1 year ago
In Proverbs it says, "Do not throw your pearls to swine." Just remember that. Don't get in pointless arguments with those whose opinions are not going to change. Present the gospel, and leave God to the rest. Humans can not persuade nor dissuade anything within the heart, only God calls those to him whom he chooses. God bless.
redsticketchick 1 year ago 2
Never doubt the king of Heaven, ELOHIM, for he is beyond greatness, he is too perfect.
1tony635 2 years ago
Did god show his love,goodness, compassion for the poor in Haiti ?
lizazoon 2 years ago
absolutely. he woke them up to his sin and gave hundreds of believers an opportunity to serve. Hopefully, looking at their destruction will bless us as a reminder of our fragality. and right now, he's drowning you in his unbearably powerful love.
christfollower4x4 1 year ago
christfollower4x4: I do hope that one day He will wake you up in the same way. What bullshit you are talking.
lizazoon 1 year ago
you know what, he has woken me up to his love. and i've absolutely fallen in love with my savior and creator. I'm not going to comment any more on this beautiful movie, but I want you to know that God has an intense love for you, and that I'm not trying to prove you wrong. I'm trying to show a little of that love to you.
christfollower4x4 1 year ago
christfollower4x4: I know what you are talking about, sir. And when you have my age, you probably will have experienced, that what you are going through now is just an illusion.
lizazoon 1 year ago
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HipHop06031987 1 year ago
@lizazoon I'm not one to get involved in conversations like this, I think they're pointless, but you clearly only want to make people mad and start arguments. You're the one who needs to be awakened. Whenever anything bad like this happens, you blame God. How come you/we never blame humans? We've destroyed the earth, and yet you blame God for something that could have been caused by us and our ravaging the land, searching for oil, etc. But that doesn't work for you cuz it doesn't blame God
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lizazoon 1 year ago
lizazoon-apparently He's not almighty or in control to you. Again, you just want to argue because you're miserable.
brendaphilip 1 year ago
I lone the picture at 3:13 could someone please send me the link to it?
zorrette7 2 years ago
Amen
zorrette7 2 years ago
The words to this song are so beautiful.That my name is graven on his hands... I can easily visualize it....My name and others..The great High priest whose name is 'Love' has my name embedded in His hands!!...more than just a tattoo! I am forever indebted to this King who died for me! Thank you my sweet King!
ninapaints72 2 years ago
"He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf , so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him" 2.Cor 5:21
kims144 2 years ago
GREAT SONG. could you please send it to me? I want to make I video like this to post on both of my pages. I've been wanting to make one for a long time but I don't know where to get a Christian song. I would really appreciate it. : ) GOD BLESS!
kellyfan25 2 years ago
What is that throne made off ??
lizazoon 2 years ago
@lizazoon i think the bible actually says pure gold and it has the sea of glass flowing form it, it has 24 thrones surrouding it with 24 elders sitting on them look up Revelation when Heaven is opened to John
zorrette7 2 years ago
@zorrette7: Grow up !!! Make a more realistic comment, when you finish college.
lizazoon 2 years ago
Go and look up Revelation 4, or read up some Ellen White, you don't have to be a bible scolar to read the Bible. What religion are you?
All i was doing was posting a response, u asked a question and i responded.
zorrette7 2 years ago
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Junction 32 of the M621. Definitely that's where it's off.
captainkath 2 years ago
Thank you for posting this song, one of my favorites! Be blesssed!!
danielnlindsey 2 years ago 3
Few songs can be considered perfect depictions of the relationship we share with our blessed Lord.... Songs like I can only Imagine, Amazing Grace and Before the throne of God Above come to mind. I owe all I am to my savior and stand in awe daily at what He did for me individually. People of the United States wake up and realize we are a blessed nation and light to all of the world. Use your remaining breath to proclaim the mighty word of God. There will come a day when every knee will bow.
pcrandallfinance 2 years ago 6
superb song!
octavbaciu 2 years ago 2
just take the glory of The living God everywhere whereever u go ( aka live for him) and we will all be on the right track lol
Titus2vs7 2 years ago
If you are looking for the meaning of life, stop looking at earthly things and lift up your face to Jesus.
hatfieldqpgat 2 years ago
Its not a religion its a relationship. very good quote.
very beautiful music.
SavedByGODsGrace777 2 years ago 2
@SavedByGODsGrace777 - like ur name =D
PetesaysJesusLives 2 years ago 2
I LOVE YOU JESUS
whobe4me 2 years ago
This song always brings tear to my eyes. Alleluia.
wonson19 2 years ago
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shalomshalom777 2 years ago
No, there is no sin any greater than another. Christ can and will and does forgive anyone who asks. Below him, all is worthless. There is no sin greater than any other. Sin is sin is sin. Don't rank sins, it makes it harder to love. Besides, God doesn't.
Hydermard 2 years ago 2
@Hydermard
Maybe there is no sin greater than another, but the only sin you are ever truly accountable for is not believing/having faith in Jesus. That is the deciding factor. In terms of accountability, all other sin is irrelevant.
Bladesman943 2 years ago
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. As a christian, you're accountable for not telling people about Jesus. We're accountable for everything we do. The only difference is we've accepted forgiveness. No sin is irrelevant.
Hydermard 2 years ago
@Hydermard, well said. I have been trying to get this thru to people who say, "I will be ok, I haven't murdered anyone". We all sin, even in petty ways. THANK YOU Jesus, because I know that I cannot do this alone.
rafhenlow 2 years ago
You're not alone, brother, there are believers with the message all around. The problem is when the message gets a little distorted or confused in the minds of our fellows. Stay patient and your brothers and sisters will listen to you. Even if it takes a little while. Search passages on the internet to back yourself up and leave them around. Sounds bitchy, but this is quite important. God bless, brother.
Hydermard 2 years ago
James 3:3-12
"3When we put its into the mouths of horses to make them obey us, we can turn the whole animal. 4Or take ships as an example. Although they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are steered by a very small rudder wherever the pilot wants to go. 5Likewise the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark.
dropinforchrist 2 years ago
6The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell. 7All kinds of animals, birds, reptiles and creatures of the sea are being tamed and have been tamed by man, 8but no man can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.9With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness.
dropinforchrist 2 years ago
10Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be. 11Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring? 12My brothers, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.
dropinforchrist 2 years ago 2
Please man, if you're going to represent the name of Jesus Christ wherever you go, you must tame your tongue! Subject to popular opinion, the word "b__chy" is a curse word, and should not be said by a slave of Christ. Thanks man, take care. :)
dropinforchrist 2 years ago 3
There is a difference between swearing and cursing. For it to be a curse word, it's motivation must be to offend. I swear, but i do not curse. There is nothing wrong with swearing, and in fact Paul swore fairly often if you translate literally. The meanings of words change, and so it makes no sense to give power to a word. The evil lies in the motivation and the desired effect, not the word itself. Having said that, I realise that some may have been offended and for that I apologise. God bless.
Hydermard 2 years ago
That's why the Bible talks about building your brothers, and not taking them down. Being careful about speaking cruelly when it is not good for someone to hear it. Swearing is very useful, and is an important part of our language. I understand your argument, and it is a good one, I just respectfully disagree. Don't worry so much about the words as the meaning behind them. Someone can swear all day and save a man, and another can say the sweetest words and watch them burn their brother.
Hydermard 2 years ago
Proverbs says that the slap of a friend is better than honey from an enemy, for the violation is pure and what seems pure is a violation. It's all about motivation, and that verse is as linguistic as it is physical. If it takes swearing to make a point, then I won't hesitate. The point is more important. But as always, Jesus Christ is Lord of my heart, and will remain so, however I express it. God Bless.
Hydermard 2 years ago
what a powerful hymn! PRAISE THE LORD OUR GOD! FOREVER!
Butterz771 2 years ago 7
Praise the Lord for people like you (and you brothers and sisters in Christ who comment) to edify people like me. Jesus lives!
gregoryw9 2 years ago 4
There isn't any way a universe without a Creator could produce a song so beautiful. Many thanks for sharing.
SadChristian 2 years ago 47
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SadChristian 2 years ago
Oh my blessed Saviour Jesus. How can i ever thank you for what you have done for me? My blessed High Priest. i love u from the bottom of my heart. U died for a miserable wretch like me, shed your precious blood to set me free. Jesus i love u. thank you for loving me.
sleekdude 2 years ago 35
I just love it! I'm gonna sing it tomorrow night at church.
kreani 2 years ago 4
Sublime and inspired. Like "Be Thou My Vision," written by an Irish composer! It refreshes more deeply than a lot of the gooey "Jesus is my girlfriend" stuff out these days because it is grounded in Scripture. I never get tired of it.
Parthianking 2 years ago 8
Praise the Lord.He is worthy to be praised.
Snehal83 2 years ago 6
Praise the Lord. Great song.
vstrom99 2 years ago 7
thank you for putting this on
kittyhawkgirl109 2 years ago 2
i luv this song
reney5082 2 years ago 2
love the picture at 1:01
castlefunk8 2 years ago
this is just one of the old songs that have a simple, but amazing message. Everytime I hear this song it fills me with love and hope just because of the message Christ is my Savior and my God and He has forgiven me for every stupid thing I have ever done. God Bless :)
GivemeJesus5022 2 years ago 4
Absolutely beautiful :)
wontons4life 2 years ago 4
awesome
njoelw 2 years ago 6
I love this song.
ambidreamz 2 years ago 6
God! I Love You!
123badmintonrocks 2 years ago 8
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Beautiful.God bless you.
ditte3 2 years ago 5
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CachinMama 2 years ago
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CachinMama 2 years ago
This song gives me chills. The annointing is so strong.
BelovedoftheKing 2 years ago 6
I'm getting chills too. Such a beautiful song!
jonny88x 2 years ago 3
U know we can debate day and night about the existence f God etc but it will not changed a unbelievers as long as they close their heart. If their not born again, all this will be foolishness for them. It's not thru knowledge man get to know or believe in God but it's thru Faith only. How can finte being understand the Infinite Being?? Anyway God sheeps shall hear his voice. God bless u all
soleilecal 2 years ago 4
Yes I agree! You could spend your whole life debating about God, but it is not this that makes you believe, and saves you. It is experiences outside of your senses.
Even in the time of the entire existence of mankind you could not fully understand God.
dnwndls 2 years ago 3
I thank God for this wonderful inspirational music. But i must say as i follow the conversation. I wonder why we christian try to convinced unbelievers about the existance of God and Deity of Jesus Christ. Many historians (believers and unbelievers)have stated that Jesus eventually existed.
soleilecal 2 years ago
Matthew 28:19 "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations" ,
Mark 16:15 "He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation"
I've just come from a conference where there was a talk on the parable of the ten minas (Luke 19:11-27) I encourage you to read that as well.
Please Don't give up in your evangelism I come from a completely non Christian background and I am now saved because my friend took the time to explain Jesus to me.
jtanz0 2 years ago
I don't mean to take away from the beauty of this video or bombard a0eoj with facts and stats and whatever. But there's no facts nessecary for me to tell you that Jesus existed and exists alongside God. If you told me you knew a girl named Angela, I'd believe you. You don't have to describe her or give me proof of her existance for me to believe you. I'm telling you, I know God. I know Jesus. I have encountered him. That proff cannot be denied. No, it's not heracy.
christfollower4x4 2 years ago
The only reason Christians seek to share the Gospel with those who do not know their Father is that He has put a Song in our hearts to do so. We remember what it was like to not know Him and how bad it sucks to not know Him. He is the greatest gift. He is our Prize. What i do not understand is where/what is the drive that atheist/agnostics/ and the like to disprove Christians and Jesus and God's existence? Where does it come from and why? Atleast Christians' outreach have an end purpose.
NickUlmer08 2 years ago
We have more reason than that for sharing the gospel, we have been commanded to , we also do it for the glory of God, and because we have compassion for people, you see, not only is knowing Jesus a great joy, the bible talks of something called hellfire that we all deserve (yes, including me), and Jesus offers a way to avoid that hellfire. I'd have to hate someone to not try and show them the way to escape the fire.
Rhuanjl 2 years ago
The answer to why they try to disprove the Truth is they love darkness. Christians and Christ expose their sin because light will always reveal darkness. They hate righteousness and want to hold to their sin. And it is true, they really do not know what they are missing, nor can they know. The veil of sin and guilt blocks the light. When Jesus plucks one out of the world, then they can know life and freedom.
and1balla0055 2 years ago
Heres some evidence for you. Look at all the videos on youtube that have anything to do with Christianity. There i am sure you will find Non Christians and Christians debating Jesus's existence. The fact people are debating His existence itself, to me, shows how broken we are. Jesus was sent to fix this and anyone who has a relationship with Him can attest that He has changed their heart or is changing their heart in ways not possible on their own (ie. determination, mind set).
NickUlmer08 2 years ago
a0eoj- I have another question for you. Why not Christianity? If you were to full-heartedly follow Christ in which you currently don't believe? What would you lose? I know that I have a much better destiny in following Christ than wasting my life trying to disprove him.
christfollower4x4 2 years ago
I Thank You Lord, for sending You'r ONLY Son to die for us!! I love you Jesus for SACRAFISING You'r Life so I can live!!! Praise Be To The King of Kings!!!
keenandasa 2 years ago 3
see snopes (youtube is not letting me post the link)
pinksoftsoap 2 years ago
Message to video creator:
The cloud image you used at 2:38 actually refers to a vulgar photo that is passed around the internet.
pinksoftsoap 2 years ago
sigh...
sameelatif 2 years ago
Beautiful video! Praise God, He is the everlasting Saviour of the world. He came unto His own and His own received Him not. What a pity. The bonds of sin so entangle a person that many would rather cling to wickedness than come to the light of Jesus. Truth be told much rejection of Christ is simply rebellion of wanting to do things that people want, instead of obeying the Lord. Disobedience is a "god" for many. How sad. The eternal destination for disobedience IS hell.
EndTimeLadyPreacher 2 years ago
Praise be to the jewish zombie. Hey let's drink his blood. Yummy
a0eoj 2 years ago
To a0eoj: I'm not sure why you would say this except to mock, but I challenge to actually study the evidence regarding Jesus' words, life, death, and even his resurrection. Also, study the bibliographical and historical evidence for the New Testament. I assure you that one cannot take an honest look at the evidence and easily dismiss it. I hope you will pursue the truth, and embrace it when you actually find it.
As to your "drink his blood" note: This is a metaphor. It is not literal.
Paintgonzo1 2 years ago
Paintgonzo1 - Of course I was mocking; Christianity is an awful hoax. Who are you trying to fool? There isn't sufficient evidence of a historical Jesus. Contrary to your frivolous assertions, I don't see how anyone can look at the evidence, rather the lack thereof, and still believe the Christian myth.
a0eoj 2 years ago
a0eoj--Thanks for your reply. I hope you don't think I'm trying to be a jerk. I simply like discussion. I few questions for clarification: 1) What do you mean by hoax? That is, who is pulling hoax, and when, and why? 2) How sufficient would sufficient evidence have to be, and what part of the historical Jesus lacks this "sufficient" evidence? His life? His words? The resurrection? The New Testament? Surely you can't mean all of these, for then you're in danger of overstating your case.
Paintgonzo1 2 years ago
Paintgonzo - A hoax is something intended to deceive, as in a fraud. Christianity is a fraud of the age. It serves to detach people from the natural world. It supports blind submission to authority. It reduces human responsibility to the effect that Yahweh and Jesus control everything. And in turn, awful crimes can be justified in the name of a divine pursuit. Most importantly, it empowers those who know the truth, but use the myths to manipulate and control society.
a0eoj 2 years ago
a0eoj: Thanks for clarifying a little. First, I'm not sure what Christianity you are referring to. It seems you are drawing an overgeneralization which is not true. When you say "Blind submission to autority," to which authroity do you refer? In addtion, what do you mean by "aweful crimes" and "in the name of divine pursuit?" I'm not trying to grasp at straws, but I want to know where you are coming from. Thanks.
Paintgonzo1 2 years ago
Paintgonzo1 - Sufficient evidence of a historical Jesus would conclusively prove his existence. Christianity is merely dogma based on the Bible, which doesn't prove anything. As a matter of fact, the Bible is full of absurdities, contradictions, and awful atrocities.
The resurrection? You can't prove Jesus ever lived. It's absurd to think you could prove his supposed resurrection.
His words? A Bible, with Jesus's supposed words highlighted with red ink, doesn't mean Jesus existed.
a0eoj 2 years ago
a0eoj: I believe there is sufficient evidence for one to believe that Jesus lived, died, and resurrected (this discussion may take a while). We can discuss each of these in time I suppose. A few remarks though: First, it's not correct to say that Christianity is "mere dogma based on the Bible." While this may be partially correct, Christiainity is also based on history (as is the Bible). In other words, they depend on history of real events. .............
Paintgonzo1 2 years ago
a0eoj: When you say "prove Jesus ever lived," do you mean prove beyond a doubt or provide reasonable evidence? The former is a very unreasonable request, for there are few things that we can"prove." The latter is quite appropriate, and it can be demonstrate, using extra-biblical sources that the Jesus in the NT was a historical person. By extra-biblical evidence, I'm referring to Philo, Josephus, Tacitus, and others. Jesus' existence is adequately documented by historians.
Paintgonzo1 2 years ago
Paintgonzo1 - Sorry, but I don't have the patience to answer all your trivial questions. I will however refute your assertion that Philo, Josephus, and Tacitus provide credible evidence of a historical Jesus.
You're mistaken about Philo. The Jewish historian Philo, who lived in the first half of the 1st century, fails to mention Jesus, as do other major contemporary writers.
a0eoj 2 years ago
a0eoj - First, I apoloize for the Philo reference, I meant Pliny the Younger. I was attempting to recall from memory what I have studied. I do not have my notes with me, so I will look into that later. Regarding Josephus, there are at least two version of Testimonium Flavianum--Greek and Arabic. You are referring to the Greek version, which does have considerable alterations. The Arabic version, however, does not.
Paintgonzo1 2 years ago
Paintgonzo1 - The Arabic version was written by Agapius the historian, a 10th-century Arabic Christian and Melkite bishop of Hierapolis Bambyce. Agapius appears to be paraphrasing, for even Josephus' title is an approximation. In addition, Agapius explicitly claims that his work was based on a lost, older Syriac chronicle by Theophilus of Edessa.
Agapius can't possibly provide credible evidence for the historicity of Jesus; it's just hearsay and 1,000 years after the supposed facts.
a0eoj 2 years ago
Paintgonzo1 - There are only references to Christians in the letters of Pliny the Younger; they give no specific information about the founder, the elusive Jesus. Besides that, Pliny the Younger was born after the supposed death of Jesus. Again, this is just hearsay. Perhaps you don't understand the problem with hearsay, and why it's not permitted in a court of law. If hearsay was acceptable evidence, I could just take your word for it, and believe in Jesus, just because you say he's real.
a0eoj 2 years ago
a0eoj - The Arabic version, while a later copy, more closely resembles what Josephus actually wrote. My point is to show that the Testimonium Flavianum, while suffering from interpolations by later Christians, is largely seen by scholars as Josephus' writing. There are arguments both for and against authenticity, but most scholars agree Josephus wrote something about Jesus. Josephus' later reference to James presuposes this. If you would like some sources on this, I can provide them.
Paintgonzo1 2 years ago
a0eoj - You seem to demand that historians live in the same time period as the their subjects. This is unnecessary in the realm of history. As I said before, courts of law and courts of history are very different. Regarding Pliny, he desribes the practices of Christians and how they viewed Jesus. My point here is to show that as early the 2nd century there are numerous references, to Jesus and his followers. I'm merely attempting to show that there is evidence for his existence.
Paintgonzo1 2 years ago
Paintgonzo1 - I realize this must be difficult for you to understand, as it's only the "believers" that think these references are credible evidence of a historical Jesus. You haven't provided ANY evidence that Jesus actually lived. These references that you admire simply indicate that Christian believers existed, just as they do today. In addition, these references are merely evidence that ancient Christians worshipped a Christ, and most likely a Christ that only existed in a mystical realm.
a0eoj 2 years ago
a0eoj - On the contrary, Tacitus specifically references Jesus as the leader of the Christian movement, for which he was executed under Pilate. You claim this is mere hearsay, but the majority of New Testament scholars (both liberal and conservative) would disagree with you. In fact, the majority of historians would disagree with your position that there is no evidence for Jesus' existence--Marcus Borg and John Domonic Crossan to name two non-Christians.
Paintgonzo1 2 years ago
Paintgonzo1 - It doesn't seem as though you understand what hearsay is, nor do you seem to understand why the Tacitus reference to Jesus is mere hearsay.
Hearsay is unverifiable information acquired from another and not part of one's direct knowledge.
Since Jesus was supposedly crucified more than 20 years before Tacitus was born, it would've been impossible for Tacitus to have first-hand knowledge of Jesus. Tacitus would have relied on information he received from others - hearsay.
a0eoj 2 years ago
A0eoj I completely understand what you define as hearsay, but your definition does not apply to the evidence we have discussed. You personally may define these citations as hearsay, but as I said before, the weight NT and historical scholarship do not. It appears we may agree to disagree. I have appreciated our discussion, you are very knowledgable, and you have challenged me to be a better student of this issue. For that I thank you, and I give you the last word.
Paintgonzo1 2 years ago
Hi. Your hearsay argument applies also to most important people in past history. Even to you in a couple of years...
Not that it would help you to discover any "non-hearsay" evidence that Jesus actually existed. You would then just dismiss him as a nice rabbi of the first century who probably died a painful death and that was it. If Christ had revealed himself to you, alive and powerful to save, to heal, to deliver and to change your life you would fall to your knees and cry. I pray he does.
chrisalive 2 years ago 4
Paintgonzo1 - Josephus lived 37-100 CE. How can he possibly provide anything but hearsay? The Antiquities of Josephus contain two references to Jesus. The text comprising the first reference to Jesus, the Testimonium Flavianum, only states that Jesus was the founder of a sect, but this verse has language not typical of Josephus. Grammatical analysis indicates significant differences with the passages that come before and after it. This Jesus reference was likely altered or added by someone else.
a0eoj 2 years ago
Paintgonzo1 - The second reference states that in the year 62 CE, the newly appointed high priest "convened the judges of the Sanhedrin and brought them a man called James, the brother of Jesus who was called the Christ."
Anyway, like I've already mentioned, the references supposedly made by Josephus are, at best, just hearsay and wouldn't even be allowed as evidence in a court of law, much less as evidence of a supernatural godman.
a0eoj 2 years ago
Paintgonzo1 - Tacitus (circa 117) refers to some people, known as Christians, and the originator of that name, Christus, had been executed when Tiberius was emperor by the order of Pontius Pilate.
It has been pointed out by experts (on both sides) there is no way to tell where Tacitus got the information for this passage, but there are hints in the passage that the information did not come from Roman records.
Anyway, this is also just heasay, and wouldn't be allowed in a court of law.
a0eoj 2 years ago
I find it odd that you keep referring to a "court of law." Courts of law and courts of history of very different. Sources which report of people and events within a century of their supposed occurences are very strong evidences of historicity, especially when there are multiples sources attesting to the same person or event. I'm not attempting to prove beyond all doubt that Jesus existed. I'm simply providing basic historical evidence that he did.
Paintgonzo1 2 years ago
Paintgonzo1...I do not know you or your heart, but from what I have seen of your writtings you are plowing the feild for the Lord. Keep caring for people and submitting to GOD.
I have found however that evidential argument in of itself is never enough. So like Spurgeon said let the Lion loose and it will defend itself.
Stay Blessed.
osiokonkwo 2 years ago
osiokonkwo - Thanks for your kind words. Yes, in these discussion, evidential arguments are never enough. The Spirit of God must ultimately change the heart. I appreciate your encouragement.
Paintgonzo1 2 years ago
a0eoj - I say this with love. You want the existence of the Christ to be proven to you. That God walked the earth as a carpenter and laid down his life so as to reconcile his children to himself.
Dear one, this is not a cognitive exercise. Because you have obviously dealt with the material and refuse to see (Yet you read of Ceasar and believe). These are spiritual things and as far as you keep fighting the spiritual with your human arguments you will not see it.
I pray God opens ur eyes.
osiokonkwo 2 years ago
osiokonkwo - In case you couldn't tell from my writing, I'm an atheist. Not only do I deny the existence of any god, even your special sky daddy - Yahweh, I seriously doubt the existence of Jesus Christ. Hopefully you'll understand that I don't say this to be hateful, I'm simply refuting unsupported non-sense of religious people. You can pray til the cows come home, but a little evidence would be preferred. Thanks
a0eoj 2 years ago
I could tell from your writing that you would identify yourself as atheist. I would say u suppress the knowledge of God.
1 Cor 1: 22-25 - Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength.
osiokonkwo 2 years ago
a0eoj - U spend so much time trying to disprove the King, u are not the first. U say u want evidence. You have it. You probably know the material more than some professing believers. The problem is that you continue trying to interpret it based on ur finite self and your desires and plans.
At the appointed time, he will take ur breath away and an accounting of all ur knowlegde will be demanded. What did you do with it? Stop looking for a formless, mindless deity, thats y u cnt find him.
osiokonkwo 2 years ago
osiokonkwo - I ask for evidence, and you just give me more rhetoric. In light of religious peoples' tendency to believe things without evidence, it's not surprising that you'd believe stories of a virgin birth and resurrection. As far as I'm concerned, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
If you're so persuaded by fanciful rhetoric, then why not believe the Quran or the Bhagavad Gita?
a0eoj 2 years ago
a0eoj - you call it rheotoric, I live and breathe this everyday. Unfortunately because of the cultural Christianity in the US, you must anticipate that I am some unread person. When I became a christian, I investigated everything and not just christianity but all major religions.
Quran - the same reason I would not go to France to learn about George Washington, I will not go to Mecca to learn of Moses.
Bhagavad Gita - is pluralistic and dies the death of 1000 qaulifications.
CHRIST IS.
osiokonkwo 2 years ago
You're asking for evidence, signs and wonders, and miracles. But listen to what Jesus is recorded to say "And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." 'He who has ears, let him hear...." The best mind blowing evidence you'll ever get is when and if, you allow Him to speak to your heart., so, go ahead and ask Him....the one you don't believe in...just in case you're wrong..ask Him... to show Himself to you.
ninapaints72 2 years ago
I love this song. Sometimes it makes me cry.
Brad2070 2 years ago
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lololololololololoololool jeesus is a fucking loser
religion is a crock of shit fuck christianity
omfgconrad 3 years ago
If you but humble yourselves repent and seek the Lord Jesus Christ with your whole heart and ask Jesus Christ to be saved. To be washed clean of all your sins and a new heart established. All who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. It is a proof, a fact, that Jesus Christ is real for all who have heard the knock and opened the door. I will tell you, I have all of the proof I need, a relationship with my God. It is more certain that any scientific theory. I felt Him, I feel Him.
Aristotle198320 3 years ago 7
Christianity is the only belief that there is no other way but through Jesus Christ. There is no other name by which you must be save (Jesus Christ). All other religions seek to make you better by having you make yourself better. Only Christianity (Jesus Christ) offers us what we can't do ourselves. I died on that cross with Christ and now I live through Him. There are many sins I could not overcome, but He overcame those sins for me. Call on the name of the Lord and thou shall be SAVED.
Aristotle198320 3 years ago 7
in the book of acts the man who educated paul says "if this is god, then it will disapear and be gone, but if this is god then it will endure, and i dont want to be the one waging opn war on god" and obviously its endured for over 2000 years, so what conclusion would we draw from this? ill let you do the math, its not too hard.
graffpk 3 years ago
Funny, you talk about not wasting my life when I know I am doing the opposite... I wish I could speak in person to you people, you know what I mean, right?
BeforeThisThrone 3 years ago
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Jesus was a normal man. He was killed by Romans because he was either insane or a liar, no one knows which. He's a plagiarism of Horus of the Egyptian faith. A lot of religions seem to have plagiarised the Egyptian faith. So, you're believing in a madman and/or a liar, who didn't die for you, he died because he was either crazy or just loved publicity. If you continue to follow Christianity, you are naught but fools. Do not be sucked in. Do not give up your life for something that doesn't exist.
FellDemon 3 years ago
so u dun deny Jesus was alive. if u do some research, u'll find that it's also a fact that his body disappeared from the tomb. it's amazing cuz:
1. the stone was too heavy for a (normal) man to remove himself.
2. the roman soldiers would've been killed if they allowed Jesus to escape, so over their dead bodies would they have prevented his escape.
3. grave robbers won't be bothered to roll the stone back.
i dunno about u, but disappearing from a heavily guarded tomb sure doesn't seem normal.
bluefenix2001 3 years ago
also, Christianity is no different from other religions (IF u deny Christ & his resurrection). so ur "assault" should be on all religions. that being said, many people turn to religion cuz they find the things in the world don't make sense, & they realise & acknowledge that there is a greater order other than themselves. right or wrong, the proof is in the pudding. often many reject religion cuz they want to be god & not submit to a greater authority, God (whichever religion it may be).
bluefenix2001 3 years ago
blufenix makes a good point, im a christian and i like to think i have an educated faith rather than because i want thier to be a god. If jesus was a madman-hes done preety good to have millions of people follow him. if he wasnt god he was arguably one of the greatest men ever to of lived-and not one person has ever found his body and where he died...somthing there doesnt add up to me?
mullerman89 3 years ago