National Medical Report

[vavh27]

If you want to play doctor....GO TO MEDICAL SCHOOL!!!!!

[hooper2170]

Thats 2 years for the MN NP after the 4 years for the BsN and most have several years of Nursing between the two.

[DrSandmann]

There is absolutely no disputing the fact that nurse-practitioners do not have the same level of training that primary care physicians do. They attend nursing school, whereas a physician attends medical school (which is far more rigorous). And they spend 2 to 2.5 years in a nurse-practitioner program, whereas a physician spends 3 years or more in a residency, where they work nearly 80 hours a week. I'll trust my health to a physician, not a nurse.

[rrkelley33]

@DrSandmann: Nurse Practitioners are not and have never claimed to be physicians. This video is simply stating that Nurse Practitioners are an educated and qualified resource for those who need primary care. Less and less medical students are chosing primary care as their specialty. If you are a physician as your login would imply, you should know that.

[DrSandmann]

@rrkelley33

Don’t play dumb with me. We both know perfectly well what the nursing profession’s ultimate goal is. You want complete autonomy to treat patients on your own, have admitting privileges, and so on and so forth.  So don’t hand me that “we’re filling a void” bullshit. Instead of pushing to have marginally-trained nurses handling primary care, you should be helping to find ways to get medical students to go into primary care.

[rrkelley33]

@DrSandmann

I'm not playing dumb with anyone. You are obviously very paranoid and scared that nurses are going to take over, which is not the case. What happened to TEAMWORK?? You are clearly the dumb one here...get your facts straight.

[DrSandmann]

@rrkelley33

Teamwork? Give me a f-ing break, will you?

Would you consider it to be “teamwork” if the wide receiver on a football team tried to take over the passing duties of the QB? Your objective isn’t “teamwork”. Your objective is to practice medicine without going to medical school.

I’m not paranoid that nurses are going to “take over”, because that will never happen. You guys aren’t smart enough to do the jobs of physicians. But it does bother me that you’re trying to.

[rrkelley33]

@DrSandmann Regardless of your feelings toward nurses, there are some very educated people who are working toward advancing the profession of nursing. The Institute of Medicine and The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation recently published a report on the Future of Nursing: Leading Change, Advancing Health. You might want to familiarize yourself with it's content because change is coming whether you are ready or not.

[DrSandmann]

@rrkelley33

They’ll hit a brick wall when physicians and the public push back.

[rrkelley33]

@DrSandmann I would not be suprised when some, not all, physicians push back. Just don't be suprised when the public and the nursing profession keeps pushing foward.

[DrSandmann]

@rrkelley33

The public is stupid. There’s no doubt about that. But the discrepancy in training between physicians and nurse-practitioners is going to come to light at some point.  Shit always rises to the surface.

Unfortunately, it’s going to come via some untimely deaths caused by nurse-practitioners who thought they were as good as physicians and tried to push the envelope of their role just a bit too much.

Then the public will see what we physicians already know.

[MegaAstrodude]

@DrSandmann,

It sounds like physicians should should help set testing standards for NP licensure. Let NP prescribe if they can pass appropriate tests. There's no need to force years of medical school, and probably years of getting into medical school, for basic prescribing if the knowledge base can be shown by other means. The empirical data says NP treated patient-outcomes are comparable or superior to physician treated patient- outcomes for their limited scope of practice.

[DrSandmann]

@MegaAstrodude

Actually, we’ve tried that. The National Board of Medical Examiners makes the USMLE Step 1, Step 2, and Step 3 (Step 3 is the easiest), all three of which physicians must pass for licensure. The NBME helped to make a certification exam for nurse-practitioners too (i.e. for nurses receiving that comical “Doctor of Nursing Practice” degree). This exam is a watered-down version of the USMLE Step 3, and more than 50% of DNPs taking this exam failed it.

[jeffkrtg]

Very good..also take a look all you wonderful nurses out there at youtube:superjknott..segments on Alfie

[vanyrosa67]

Excellent!!! We need to continue to promote the role across the US and abroad.

[MaryBridget12]

Gotta Love the nurse practitioners!

[landslave]

Every health care public policymaker should be required to view this video! Nurse Practitioners CAN fill the void if they are only permitted to step from the shadows into the light and if they would be permitted to do the job they are trained to perform!!

[cherylcelia]

Great for Nurse Practitioners! Keep the info coming!

[stephaniewesztergom]

how professionally done! This is so timely and valid. Here Here!

[kellimacrn]

What an excellent video to help the layperson understand what a nurse practitioner is. Send this to everyone you know.

[mrosborne47]

Excellent! Send to all legislators!

[LindapsychNP]

This is an excellent video that explains the high value of receiving health care from Nurse Practitioners. All legislators should be encouraged to view this video

[nrs75]

Excellent! Send to President Obama!