compressed air car

[erafcorp1]

Angelo ;

My name is Eric, U and I have spoke long distance before. I still want to partner with U on bringing your invention to the USA. Please contact me. My phone# and address is in your database. This is the wave of the future and the future is NOW.

[mikehanoo33]

Free energy labeled 'economic terrorism' - The widespread adoption of these new, non-polluting energy and propulsion systems will effectively replace the use of oil, gas, coal, nuclear power, impacting 4.5 trillion dollars a year in world economic activity, replace? the current? geo-political order with one based on decentralized abundance. (Examiner; March 21, 2009

[Engel888]

I like Di Pietros engine...very similar to a Rotary wankle engine..The most efficient design!

[bart89MS]

air compressed engine isnt his invention. maybe this specific one shown here but first engines were built over 150 and used in public transportation.

[scarble]

This is absurd.

I'm not just some cynical naysayer, I've designed and made an air-motor from scratch. I know how they work.

They're not particularly efficient, or particularly in-efficient, they have their uses, this is not one.

The weight of an adequate pressure vessel which can fit into volume constraints of an automobile and be sufficiently robust to meet even the most lax of crash safety regulations means this will never happen.

[1jks]

The race is on figure out how to store compressed air without temp changes and thermal changes. This and the use of light weight material (carbon fiber frame, epoxy wields etc) and proper aerodynamics and this might be a real option.

[fizzguts]

"The race is on figure out how to store compressed air without temp changes and thermal changes."

Right we'll use magic fairy dust to make  conservation of energy and all the immutable physical laws go away. Sorry but (joke here) I'm not holding my breath

[1jks]

@fizzguts Your right, it can't be done lets just give up and stop trying. No more tinkering no more exploring no more puzzling or using ones imagination. Your negative, can't do attitude is like a cancer. You are a classic example of defeatism. I hope you can see this in yourself and seek counseling. Good luck to you.

[fizzguts]

You technically illiterate moron

There are hundreds of valuable, interesting technical projects for transportation and energy provision. This SCAM is NOT one of them

Over 10 years and no cars sold or independently tested. The claims are lies which even the USA license holder admits.

Google vencat 20 miles

You made a mind bogglingly stupid statement that air needs to be compressed with out thermal change. This will happen after they bread geese to poop gold bricks. Good luck waiting

[muleywatcher]

fizz is right Angelo Di pietro should not recieve credit, and it is still short range and alot less power than fossil burning vehicles.Hopefully one day they will make a worth worthy air car!

[kerepakupai]

I need more information about it. Do anybody has it? such an invention!!!

[fizzguts]

"such an invention!!! "

Google Douglas Self museum of retrotech

The air car dates back to the 1900's They are short range and inefficient.

DePietros and MDi's claims are fantasy and have never been independently confirmed and never will be

[ThatMiserableCat]

Re; fizzguts--

You're right. Old, ancient idea. But since people WANT to believe in fantasy, it will never be offered for sale because of 'Evil Big Business'. "THEY" MUST be the reason nobody will ever be able to buy one. That, and probably it's FOX news fault, republicans fault, rich white guys fault, "deniers" fault, etc. ad nauseam.

[wamione]

PETRA STATION is energy for compressed air car.

"Philosopher pietra,,, " for (di pietro) motor...

w,one

[wamione]

Di Pietro?...Is Stone?...

w.tow

[Pauloito]

Pietro means Peter

[thrillionsofheavens]

MDI has got to come up with some better designs for the cowboys in America. They will never drive MDI's current models cuz they would feel so SMALLLLLLLLLL. Cowboys like to feel big that's why they like money so much. :P

Come on Guy Negre, build a truck for the tonka boys. .. or they might cry tears of oil. :P

[starlight1946]

Energy is all around us truly in the air, this would be great if it comes to pass. The oil barons won't allow it. A scientists name Meyer in the past made a car using water and then was found dead (murdered I believe).

[fizzguts]

"this would be great if it comes to pass"

Air cars date back to the 1900's. They are a bust due to poor storage and energy losses. This pathetic con has been kept alive for over 15 years by people who believe in magic.

Meyer was another lying scamming non scientist who appealed to conspiracy theorists and those with no knowledge of physics

[DaughterofEarthanSky]

A master of limitations if I've ever seen one in my entire life ... you limit your self to expansion better than any one soul I have ever seen in my entire life. Because there are as you call them physical limitations that doesn't mean that they can't be over come. MASTER OF LIMITATIONS TO THE LIMIT.

[fizzguts]

I'm sorry I'm not fluent in gibberish thus I have no idea what you are saying.

Please take your meds

[bigcree]

If Meyer was a Scam Artist why was he constantly harassed, hassled and bullied by thugs from the Oil Corp and their Govt Agents?? Why was he eventually murdered?? Let your small limited view get in the way of the facts?? Or is your small limited mind already made up??

[fizzguts]

Meyer was a Scam Artist who was prosicuted for fraud. If he was killed the most likely person was someone he ripped off

I ask you bigcree to not let your small limited view get in the way of the facts, or is your small limited mind already made up?

Bwahahahaha

[bigcree]

Your Comment again reflects lack of integrity and merits no response. You childish imp.

[fizzguts]

"Your Comment merits no response"

Yep. You get owned. You run away. Twas ever so.

Bwahahaha

[DaughterofEarthanSky]

And by the way fizzguts your internet gets better and better all the time....they're called updates...but I guess you've never noticed those either.

[DaughterofEarthanSky]

Trolls Trolls Trolls fossil fuel Trolls Trolls Trolls fossil fuel Trolls Trolls Fossil fuel trolls who wish to ware face masks... Attention Fossil fuel trolls on board !!!!

[fizzguts]

Morons, loonies and uneducated dicks who can't spell and who wouldn't know a CON if it bit them in the arse are the main problem.

But hey! They want you money, you want to invest. GO FOR IT!

A fool and his money

[DaughterofEarthanSky]

First Mr. fizzguts I'm a woman

2nd I'm a widow

3rd I'm broke

4th it's really none of your business what I do or don't do

5th I can spell any way that I wish as long as you get the point

6th I'm no fool

7th I have an attorney

8th I don't recall stating that I was to invest.

9th even if I were I'd still be none of your business

10 get off my ass.

[fizzguts]

1,2,3,4,,7,8,9, Couldn't give a toss.

6 yes you are and 5 is proof

10 You call me a liar and a troll and want to walk away. No way, no how. I have given you FACTS you are now running for cover calling unfair unfair.

FACT No air cars have ever been sold since 1991 when this scam started.

The performance CLAIMS are lies.

The have taken well over $13million and they want suckers to pay millions more

The selling price is moonbeams as they have never even tried to pass govt. regulations

[DaughterofEarthanSky]

Good then go complain to the NY Car Convention...!

[fizzguts]

Quote "Good then go complain to the NY Car Convention...!"

Meaning what apart from you need to go back on your meds as you are making events up?

[DaughterofEarthanSky]

fizzguts No invention has taken off without a few flaws that are in need of fixing...look at some history such as the Wright brothers Orvill and Wilbur. Now who's uneducated here?

[fizzguts]

"Now who's uneducated here?' You are. Air powered vehicles date from before the Wright brothers. They were abandoned back in the 1900's because of short range and lousy power. Intrinsic problems the MDI scammers have not solved because they are PHYSICAL limits.

A fool and his money

[DaughterofEarthanSky]

"FACT No air cars have ever been sold since 1991 when this scam started." That's many years ago so why are you yelling and getting so out of sorts..? You seem to cut men short of intelligence your self this is 2009 a new day and age. Creativity and change happen and not to mention our children they are bright. Do you really wish to see them paying this debt forever? As well as fighting/dying for a fuel? Master of limitation...!

[thrillionsofheavens]

nice going! keep it up! Air Engines! So, bye bye GAS GUZZZZLING AIR POLLUTING RIP PEOPLE OFFFF LYING AUTO INDUSTRY BONUS SUCKING LEECH LIKE VAMPIRE INDUSTRY.

[DaughterofEarthanSky]

I have much better projects to attend to than to sit here and baby sit you. Get a life. I'm off to have some fun and be happy....!!!

[DaughterofEarthanSky]

"They want you money"

[BlkUnk]

wicked make this izh happen.... wtf is wrong with the world.... we have the means but we dont wanna change..... fuckin lets evolve here people....

[fizzguts]

Air powered vehicles are short range low performance as there is very little energy in the air tanks even at 4500psi. The motors are at the limit and can't be any better. It's a bust

[DaughterofEarthanSky]

That's not the truth CAE's will go 200 miles on one fill up...check your facts. How hard is it to refill with air? Guy Negre of MDI's Air Car engine states the facts...and to boot will cost $6 -$7,000 much less than we have been paying.

[fizzguts]

Quote "CAE's will go 200 miles on one fill up...check your facts"

I have. The ONLY test report is 7.2km Google Rexresearch Negre

The CLAIM for 200 MILES is complete and utter BULLSHIT

Produce any report by any independent person or organisation outside those lying scammers at MDI and I will listen.

Hello

Oh running away now?

A fool and his money

[DaughterofEarthanSky]

air car ? why not in u.s.a.? can you power a car on air ?

put it in your yt browser

[DaughterofEarthanSky]

Any thing has to be better than the lying scammers that we have now.

[DaughterofEarthanSky]

air car ? why not in u.s.a.? can you power a car on air ?

Put that in the browser for you tube the price has gone up a bit but other than that it's the same. We can do this...

[fizzguts]

Quote "air car ? why not in u.s.a.? can you power a car on air ?"

And the fact these clips for the SAME vehicle are 4 years old doesn't worry you.

Google

e.volution South Africa

Same car same promises same lies and bullshit in 2000

Wake up

ITS A CON

[DaughterofEarthanSky]

No what's worrying me is the fact that people like you are worried about progress away from fossil fuels. These same clips well with old dinos I guess we will be wareing face masks like in some other countries. These are at least a step in the right direction.

[fizzguts]

The air car has about 20% of the efficiency of an Electric vehicle. If you think the MDI air car is an answer they you've asked a bloody stupid question.

[DaughterofEarthanSky]

You must be the one that lost the $13 million...that's what your acting like or the one than's going to lose more than that if it takes off. Why not sue the man or the product if in fact these statements are true? Instead of brow beating people in wish/hopes for change? Because you are

wasting yours and my time here... your not changing one thing. You are only making me believe in the product even more! Our cars start having problems before they are paid for. What's up?

[fizzguts]

Quote "You are only making me believe in the product even more! Our cars start having problems before they are paid for. What's up?"

What's up? Simple you are an idiot who believes any lie in a green wrapper. You lack any ability to read, comprehend and analyse. You believe in fairy tales so you are the perfect consumer and because you can't comprehend facts and keep making mistakes you are now running away. "I've got much better projects to attend to" Good luck with the macramé

[DaughterofEarthanSky]

Hey man if you like paying for all those high prices then I say when some thing as wonderful as this does come out I say we leave you to all those high priced fuel transports since you love them so very much.

[fizzguts]

Sigh repeating ITS A CON it won't be cheap to run or buy. It won't go any more than the pathetic 7.2km. They are liars

[DaughterofEarthanSky]

And far worse then maybe you can go shoot the person in the head or bomb them directly for your fuel.

[bigcree]

Get off of your head fizzguts. There is a World of hidden and supressed Tech in front of you. Tesla was another man who unlike you, thought way outside the box. So much so he too was harrassed, bullied and ridiculed by the same Oil and burdensome Govt Fiends who made off with his drawings, Prints, Inventions * See Marconi and ideas. AC Motors, AC in our daily lives and FREE ENERGY. Call me a liar if you want, but facts are there IF you dare look.

[TommeyLeeReed]

Sorry but my True rotary piston engine then a basic crank design, that engine is like a 6 piston engine with a crank.

Rotary means rotor that rotates on a shaft, not a crank. 23 ft/lb of torque at 2100 rpm's

, but wont say how much cfm is needed or psi.

[shanghaikidx]

Hahaha ... how brain amputated one has to be to think that this shitty compressed air stupidity solves any energy problem??? Ah, because this shit doesn't emit CO2 when driving??? Ah, and who or what compresses the air??? Really, how brain amputated one needs to be.

And please, this shit is certainly no 'new technology' or "smart invention", but the latest rubbish from France that does not work. Please, Frenchies, do us a favor and cultivate wine!

[karamazovnew]

A friend and me wanted to figure out how the difference in pressure between intake and exhaust could drive by itself an array of such "disks", each with containing about 6-8 chambers or "pistons" created by inner sliding paddles separating an outer and inner circle (just rotating with a different center of rotation). We started from scratch but then we saw Pietro's design with translating-rotating inner circle and ingenious outward sliding paddles. Put us to shame :) It's a brilliant invention.

[sakurasexyclone]

does anyone know where i can find out how to build one of these

[joshmoss108]

once you have that motor and a high presser air tank it couldn't be that hard if you know what your doing. if i were to make one I'd start with a golf cart.

[jerryaltman]

It's bether way to attack arabian countries, than just bombing them. Attack by don't need so much oil, since the largest oild producer are among arabian countries.

[ksolarte]

this guys is a genius!!! i know many people will be interested to work 4 him FREE!

[shanghaikidx]

this guy is a genius??? For what reason? For building telling stupid people that he's built a "green" car?? ... Ok, now I understand. You are right. He's a genius. There are many stupid people out that are extremely stupid.

[richard721ne11]

Great idea!

[bestSVMS]

unless the compressor is powered by clean energy, you are just transferring the pollution to other places because most electricity is still made with coal in the US

[peteback]

it's still alot cleaner and more efficient. It's a step forward in becoming completely clean energy dependent.

[shanghaikidx]

Hahaha ... how brain amputated one has to be to think that this shitty compressed air stupidity solves any energy problem??? Ah, because this shit doesn't emit CO2 when driving??? Ah, and who or what compresses the air??? Really, how brain amputated one needs to be.

And please, this shit is certainly no 'new technology' or "smart invention", but the latest rubbish from France that does not work. Please, Frenchies, do us a favor and cultivate wine!

[peteback]

Don't lecture me on energy. I never said this would solve any energy problem. It is a novel way of storing energy for many applications. Its tied directly to electricity obviously, which is better than oil.

[shanghaikidx]

Nope, sorry, it is certainly not a new way and new "invention", but it already had been found that it is an very inefficient and unpractical way of storing energy, in terms of degree of (thermodynamic) efficiency of the compression process, secondly the energy:weight-ration is bad, why the mobile application is not very practical.

And who said that electricity is better than oil??? Why obviously??? Only because no CO2 is coming out of the tail-pipe of an EV car??

[shanghaikidx]

Compressed air is a heavy way of storing energy. 300 litres (11 cu ft) of air at 30 MPa (4,500 psi) contains about 16 kWh of energy (the equivalent of 1.7 liters [0.44 US gal, 0.37 imp gal] of gasoline, assuming a 100% efficiency of the engine).

[Elbruzbey]

If large auto manufacturers didn't invest in oil markets maybe geniuses like this man would actually be noticed. Wishful thinking ha?

[cebupermies]

regarding the charging of the tank, it is much like charging the scuba diving tanks. it is possible to charge the tanks from a three stage compressor. if i remember right, angelo di pietro mentioned a pressure of 300 bars. it is also possible to store the compressed air in big tanks and transfer them into the vehicle tanks. this "refueling" would be much similar to putting air into the tyres. i shouldn't take too long.

[jerryaltman]

What is the most efficient air motor, this on or the one from the french inventor who created a entire new car moved by air?

[jerryaltman]

The franch car moved by air was filled witrh air from a compressor, using a single hose. If the tanks have a really high pressure, that require very strong tanks, how the sinle hose could handle such very high pressume?

[FrontalTraction]

jerryaltan, the air is around 4500 psi in the tank, but that is decompressed and put in the engine.

[joakimveyron]

@cebupermies To store 14.3 kWh at 300 bar in 300 l (90 m3 at 1 bar) reservoirs, u need at least 93 kWh on the compressor side (and 14.3 kWh is the energy equivalent of less than 1 l of gasoline): Hahahahah!!

Tell me, what does a mentally challenged person like you think about who or how the air is compressed in the first place???? Hahahaha, does it happen automatically??? Is it pure magic??? Yiipppiiieehh: The world full of fools!!

[cebupermies]

angelo di pietro is ready with the compressed air motor. there are companies that are now working on the compressed air vehicle prototypes. it wont come as a surprise if these vehicles come out soon, considering the recent spike in fuel prices.

[tetranoob]

And i should add, as the price of Combustable fuels goes up this is looking like a better alternative every day.

I wonder how long it takes the air compressor to fill the tank. Perhaps you could fill this for free at the service station on their tyre pumps :)

[Wiier]

Lol, nah, not enough pressure.

They say it takes 4 hours to fill at home and 3 minutes to fill at a filling station

[tetranoob]

I just love it!