All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
It is such a shame that men of great courage and ability like Tom Paine and Nikola Tesla have almost been airbrushed out of mainstream history.......There are probably more men of stature, whose deeds and names remain unknown because "The Elite" have decreed it.
I just recently watched an excellent documentary, " The Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers", and discovered that the Founding Fathers were all 33rd degree freemasons. They were actually against the true God of the Bible! You will be shocked to discover what the Founding Fathers actually believed in the own words! Please do a search and learn the truth for yourself.
I received my copy of this book, a month ago. I've read all the way up to the old testament chapter, of his book( I work a lot). But i must say, reading so far, this is the most powerful, and best book I've read. If you're into religion[Deep], especially Christianity, and you read this book, you won't feel same about your religion. You will most certainly see it in a new light, and maybe reject it.
it was okay not the best good beginning of the music but didn't make sense it was not about what he did towards the revolution more at the point about' common sense ' he was important for the message he put out this video talks more about the message he learned doesn't teach much to me but nice try!
“ The evil that has resulted from the error of the schools, in teaching natural philosophy as an accomplishment only, has been that of generating in the pupils a species of atheism. Instead of looking through the works of creation to the Creator himself, they stop short, and employ the knowledge they acquire to create doubts of his existence. They labour with studied ingenuity to ascribe....., and jump over all the rest by saying, that matter is eternal.”: The Existence of God--1810 Thomas Paine
I love Tom Paine. His views were actually more or less Left Libertarian, as in he believed in almost absolute freedom, as well as equality among the people. He was left sided (one of my friends calls him a socialist) but he was not liberal for he did not believe in big government. He believed that government was a necessary evil, and at its best was permitable. He surely is one of my political and philosophical idols.
Epic fail answer. "but he was not liberal for he did not believe in big government."
A: Look up the world "liberal". It is defined: "A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority"
B: Thomas Paine advocated for redistribution of wealth.
When it shall be said in any country in the world, my poor are happy; neither ignorance nor distress is to be found among them; my jails are empty of prisoners, my streets of beggars; the aged are not in want, the taxes are not oppressive; the rational world is my friend, because I am the friend of its happiness: when these things can be said, then may that country boast its constitution and its government. Thomas Paine, Rights of Man
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You the people are idiots & stupids. You the people put the government you have now in power. You the people are lazy, selfish cowards & want others to fight & risk their life for you to live in comfort & in peace. Peace & justice is not given to you by criminals, you have to work for it. You the people are worthless scum who don't care about nobody--steal & loot other nations to live in comfort. You the people will kill children to survive in comfort, not just survive. You deserve what you get.
@mayabelldotcom We voted on the Constitution? Last I checked it was written in 1787 and ratified in 1789! Last I checked Income Tax was passed in 1918! Last I checked, Social Security was passed in the 1930s and medicare in the 1960s!
Last I checked - we have had a dysfunctional system of Party since the 1880s! Most voters were not alive at any of these times, fool!
thomas paine is awesome. the best of the founding father. a true radical. his ideas were so ahead of the curve that even the other founding fathers couldn't handle it. he was practically the only one against slavery. and I think he would be ashamed of the teabaggers of this day.
@catndryer Because much of what the tea baggers stand for are in direct conflict with what he wrote about and subsequently, our nation was founded upon. This one man had more to do with the writing of our constitution and the declaration of independence than any other one man. Followed by Jefferson who took what he wrote and then made it palatable for the people of the time.
Simply read the age of reason and common sense and you will see they are in direct conflict with tea baggers
@catndryer lol you're asking why would he be ashamed of the Tea Party? He practically invented the ideas of welfare, social security and minimum wage. He was against land ownership, he said the world was his country, he HATED Christianity, he was one of the most progressive, intellectual, anti-religious minds of all time. Can anyone even remotely put those three characteristics and the tea party in the same sentence? No.
@trtnec He wasn't against land ownership. He viewed that land was by moral right common property but that society benefited from "landed property" & proposed that land be taxed as a form of rent to pay for schools, an old age pension etcetera.
It is important to remember though, that through WAR we will only get a watered down version of the same elitist control after all is said and done. War is their business to profit from at the expense of OUR lives.
Join the Zeitgeist movement for the world we ALL deserve.
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Paine probably wanted you to be as religious as you wished, but not to impose your views violently on others... inquisitions come from zelous humans. not from Christ, Muhammad or Buddha
No he actually wanted people to scrutinize the bible and other religious texts and realize it was all made by man and preached Deism. Man's word is imperfect and doesn't give us the proper interpretation of god or his will. It's like trying to look through cloudy water.
Sorry, but that is the dumbest comment I have ever read? "Like trying to look through cloudy water" what a silly statement. The founding father were able to see exactly what happens when religious nuts have a hand in political judgments. This is exactly why the majority of the Founding Fathers were Deists and not theists, that and they were just to intelligent to buy it. You'll find that most intelligent people can see right through religious bullshit, it's design chains the dumb.
@Luigi84289 thomas jefferson designed UVA with a library at its center to avoid religion. Every college in Europe had a church in the center at the time. He wanted people to open their eyes to knowledge, science and reason and away from religion. Thomas Paine was no different
@gnutsrocknroll Religious texts do nothing more than try to convince man that he knows something he doesn't. That ignorance is knowledge by labeling ignorance "God". The only thing that a "God" label fits upon is all of reality, that is everything that exists. Trying to place limits on the concept of God by bringing it inside the realm of existence undermines it. God cannot be part of existence but must necessarily to be a real concept be all of it.
@Luigi84289 there is a guru who was having an argument about god. someone said to him that "god doesnt make junk". the guru replied "yeah, well it doesnt make junkyards either" :)
i thought you might like that given what you said.
TP was a great revolutionary however, Atheits hasve hijacked his Diest ideas and use it to espouse their ideas. TP professed to beleive in God, however, not in the Church of his time. Nowadays I am sure he would love the advances in tech to allow people to study the Bible closly in various translations.
We have just come back from New Rochelle, NY, where Thomas Paine lived. He truly was a brave man to have spoken up to protest against the King and for human rights. There you can visit part of his house and speak to the very informative guide who works there. God bless heros like Mr. Paine.
Ben Franklin said the American revolution would not have happened had it not been for Paine. However, the reason Paine is buried somewhere in France is because he was a very outspoken ATHEIST. "The Age of Reason" lays this out very clearly. His views scared many (and still do) so he went where he was accepted for not believing in an imaginary being. Thomas Jefferson (also atheist) was his only real friend in America. So tragic how someone who saves your country can be disposed of so easily.
The 4th paragraph of The Age of Reason is, " I believe in one God, and no more; and I hope for happiness beyond this life." Payne and Jefferson were not athiest but deist, believing in a God but not the God as put forward by Christian churches.
I stand corrected. True, he very much was a deist. It's easier to say he's an atheist because people may misunderstand what an atheist actually is, but many have never heard of a "deist". But you're right. He hated religion. That made him an outcast.
@RobertGuido no, he hated the Bible itself. Not just the church of his time. Try reading the Old Testament and you'll see why he hated it. Read The Age of Reason by him. He abhorred Christianity itself, along with the other religions of the time.
Great video, just one minor issue. Thomas Paine did not 'invent' the suspension bridge. Cultures all over the world have been building them for thousand of years. Tom only designed a few, not invented them.
? well not sure what the 'janks' ever did for us, but your president virtually had to engineer a war with the Japanese, to get the population to accept that he had to take you into a war, and since you were more German than much else and such a country of antisemites, that was no mean feat!
Brilliant man, one of my favourite historicalfigures. He was so advanced in his thinking of the time it's unbelievable, however I think his successes and the impact of his work has been exaggerated over time-nonetheless significant.
Americans have been so dumbed down, Most dont even know what rites there lacking. To start with whats your money made out of? Silver & Gold like the constitution states it should be! You buy a car what do you do with the title? Hand it over to motor vehicle if you want to drive it! Own land? No you pay taxes to live on it or it goes back in the hands of the government. Each state has to amend the constitution.Rightfully,We should all have gotten public law degrees! We are a belligerent society!
In these times that try men's souls, those without souls need to be tried and convicted. They are the culprits. They are the criminals. They are the evil slave masters.
Have people become too complacent with modern living? Have people forgotten the tyranny of subjugation to a king? Have people forgotten the horrors of slavery? Will they wake up before it is too late?
The Brit Thomas Paine advocated FREETHINKING..which is thinking based on reason, not dictated by dogma, institutionalized religion, authority..being OBEDIENT SHEEP..thats gullible america..hence america alienated him for it
Brits as FREETHINKERS.. theres no "God told me to invade Iraq"..wacko shit.. thats gullible americans as simple folk do what they're told, dont question authority. In Britain religion and state kept seperate..hence Brits have feet on the ground, freely THINK FOR THEMSELVES
That's not quite the case mate! The Church of England is the established religion in England and the Church of Scotlans is the same in that country.
It is the non-conformist churches (Baptist, Methodist, Congregationalist and Presbyterian) which have historically provided the free thinkers in Britain.
Our American friends have seperation of church and state in theory, but in practice their politicians get nowhere unless they at least pretend to be Christian.
this isn't directed towards you its directed towards everyone on here saying american's are all lesser than everyone else because are leaders and politicians are lieing to us and many people believe them.
How about Lord Asquith in the first world war telling young men it was godly to sign up and get sent over the top?
Conformity doesn't have to strictly be along religious grounds. The UK may not buy into Christianity as much as the USA (along with the rest of the Western world bar South Africa) but they conform much more in sports teams they support, fashion/pop music, euphoric public opinion and just as much in politics and community.
hmm.. kinda agree with others, however unquestioned US conformity to religion means that obedience spreads to other areas.. hence lack of critical thinking and the gullibilty stereotype of America
Have a conversation with a Brit.. (and bullshit) have that same conversation with an American.. 99 times out of 100 the Brit will rumble you before American. There aint Bible Belts in Britain, there aint prolific UFO sighting, Blaine does trick in London, eggs get thrown, does same in NY gets lauded
What about in consumerism? Americans have a reputation for being much more non-conformists in that regard.
"gullibilty stereotype of America"
America most certainly does NOT have a stereotype of gullibility. It does have a stereotype for insularity and ignorance of the wider world, but not gullibility.
"99 times out of 100 the Brit will rumble you before American"
I would STRONGLY dispute that. That might be true for middle/upper class Brits but not for the working/under class Brits. And even amongst the former classes alot of it is just due to arrogance, Usually when you press deeper beyond the facade they don't actually have a clue what they're talking about.
"There aint Bible Belts in Britain, there aint prolific UFO sighting"
Err u cant do sarcasm ruggers boy..hence reference to american gullibilty stereotype i didnt chuckle..."its aliens"- al murray..LOLz
Hooliganism?..lmao, comparing that to america with worst homicide rate in western civilization..pssh. Regards US sportsmen, convicted killers, rapists, dog fighting rings, players who exhibit gang signs... then theres OJ
Snobbery..trivial comparison vs the worst rate of Inequality on the planet. Sex scandal/paedophilia..APT timing, u gots ze $cash$ u get off
convicted killers, rapists, dog fighting rings, players who exhibit gang signs... then theres OJ
And what makes you think English sportsmen, especially footballers, are any more squeaky? Do you know about the frequent group rape scandals? One of which involved no less than one W Rooney? Or what about Steve Gerrards unprovoked assault last year? And thats just the tip!
Some English clubs are notorious for links with organised crime and corruption.
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property... Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them."
"About religion, The Age of Reason says: I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church. All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."
Odd. I don't know what his nose has to do with anything or why we need dramatic music making him into superman. It will be refreshing to learn about someone who was rather frank with his viewpoints in the 1700s
Thomas Paine - #34 Greatest Briton, arrived in america 1774 in time for Revolution, wrote Common sense (Jan 1776) signed "Written by an Englishman", advocated American independence from Britain (1st to say united states of america). Wrote Rights of Man (pubished London 1791), Violently opposed Washington owning Slaves. Wrote Age of Reason 1794, "followed in tradition of 18th century British deism"..arguing against Christian doctrines, call for "free rational inquiry" into all subjects, religion,
...An american could never have written 'Common sense', its takes critical thinking and Paine had that in abundance.. the most influential written work at a time when independence was undecided
'Rights of Man'.. published in London, another classic, at this point he ridiculed g.washington and his slave ownership
'Age of Reason'.. followed British deism argued against unfree Religous doctrine. Pro freethinking, this alienated him to yanks
america renowned as nation that dont critically think, anyone that does is an outcast as america is a nation of followers. Thats the ethos of the nation..anyone that expresses critcal thought is instantly slandered as anti american... hence america breeds dumb, gullible obedient workers...and thats how the owners want it as they line their pockets while the gullible masses get fleeced with shitty standard of living, healthcare, education, low pay, poor holidays..etc
Liberal? In the sense that he loved freedom. Democrat? In what sense.. Democrats that were about to take shape and did take shape in his time, were very conservative and so was Thomas Paine! He wouldn't agree with paper money.. welfare.. federal government inside education...
Alexander Hamilton, one of the most left-wing founders, wouldn't even accept today's government!
Why Liberals do what they do..........Liberals have this need to aspouse their beliefs on others constantly.......all the time.......forever... Just like Rosie Odonell...Why , because its a moral imperative and a religion to them . They are a needy wanton people who cant intellectually handle going to traditional church for their religious needs because it makes them feel inferior . I.E. Mental Illness . Get some help ! !
"They are a needy wanton people who cant intellectually handle going to traditional church for their religious needs because it makes them feel inferior"
I'm not sure who you are insulting here? The Liberals, or the people attending 'traditional church'. They are both equally ignorant and devoid of facts... At least, that's my opinion.
we need to reclaim America its easy just seperate the states from the fed and raise the state militias peacefully and legally...then hold a new legidimate election by the people of the usa...elect a new president and ask the rest of the armed forces and government agencies to turn over power to the legally elected new president of the usa...then try the crooked bastards is dc for treason.....simple!!
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Too bad we don't have patriots like him nowadays. Instead, we have people like nancy pelosi. barney frank and chris dodd. People who haven't been born yet will write of these people as utter fools. They are condemned to the ash heap of societal failures. May they all rot in Hell!!!
If thomas paine was alive today, his views would be considered socialist. Those who claim to admire Paine are selective of his thoughts, he was for progressive taxation as a means of alleviating poverty and wanted social security as a right for everyone.
The genius of the man is not wanting a revolution but laying out a blueprint of what should be the result of one.
Normally, I would point out the wrong in your sentence.
But I am just going to say this:
You can't even stand up to what Thomas Paine did, and I swear if it came down to it, you would have been just like the other 75 percent of Americans back then, no balls and crying out to mother goverment to help you.
Awesome video. Not many today subscribe to "Common sense." Most people are out to get rich at their neighboor's expense. We think we can print and tax ourselves into prosperity. I wonder what Thomas would write about today's problems.
His greatest efforts were exposing the mythology of religion. That Christianity is simply astrotheology. Carbon copy solar saviors before Jesus - they all were the SUN/SON. Try telling people that in this supposed enlightened age of deluded sun worshippers.
"The christian religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun." Thomas Paine.
lol someone gave you a thumbs down for quoting Paine.
Maybe those who quote Paine & common sense as means of revolution should read the rights of man. They will see a man whose views are opposite to theirs and will probably end up hating him for being a socialist.
I really liked this. Just a couple of factual errors need correcting. I just read a very good short book on Paine by Harry Harmer, who I think lives in Lewes, the town in England that Paine lived in before coming to America.
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No! The founding fathers weren't afraid of takeing on slavery they were afraid of looseing there many slaves plantations & money, remember when the US was founded you couldn't vote unless you owned land.
Free for some! If you were white and land owners, actually that was exactly the same as England at the time! many blacks voted with their feet during the war and faught for the British, including Washingtons and Patrick Henrys favourite slaves. "Give me liberty or give me death" my arse!
Those was the smart folks. If you ask me nations are like banks would you give your life to your bank out of a sense of loyalty? Yeah right so you would, so why die for a country? "Give me liberty or give me death" the cry should be "Give me peace & a plot to call my own & leave me the hell alone!" By being a citizen of any nation you forfeit your rights so maby those black slaves where abit more clued up than the rest of us.
I know...what a crazy idea! I guess they didn't want people who did not own anything having the ability to vote for things that would take away from those who did own something.
Ever taken the time to read the correspondences between Paine and Washington from some years after the Revolution? Paine called Washington a fraud to his face in his one letter. I stand by what I said regarding G.W. despising Paine and letting him hang out to dry while imprisoned in France.
I think Paines' and any other individual that has taken a stand for the freedom of others, overall message was that if you are witness to wrongdoing in any of it's forms MAKE A FUSS.
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KITCHENOFDISTINCTION 1 month ago
Drop the music.
declan3906 3 months ago
Ahh. Love everyone that keps his name alive! Good work! but you missed loads of stuff that wasn't american patriotic.
"The world is my country"
zombiekidbug 3 months ago
All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
Thomas Paine
nurb101 3 months ago
@SurlyCalifornia Left head has no more right to his name either. it's all the same leviathan. Resist it, and be free.
Ravengaurd6 3 months ago
Return to the Union bitches.
Dinyang 4 months ago
It is such a shame that men of great courage and ability like Tom Paine and Nikola Tesla have almost been airbrushed out of mainstream history.......There are probably more men of stature, whose deeds and names remain unknown because "The Elite" have decreed it.
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I just recently watched an excellent documentary, " The Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers", and discovered that the Founding Fathers were all 33rd degree freemasons. They were actually against the true God of the Bible! You will be shocked to discover what the Founding Fathers actually believed in the own words! Please do a search and learn the truth for yourself.
shiphrahhopeful 7 months ago
what is the second piece of music?
alcharles100 8 months ago
This video shows Thomas Paine great honor. Thanks for the upload.
vivalaliberty 9 months ago
Awesome video! Thomas Paine has always been one of my heroes...
aprox23 10 months ago 4
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tracy070991 11 months ago
If we had politicians like him today, the world would be a much better place.
tracy070991 11 months ago 4
Why did the tea party rape this historical revolutionary?
I guess they never heard Renegades Of Funk.
figocooldude 11 months ago
How cool! Well done!
50Violetta 11 months ago
I received my copy of this book, a month ago. I've read all the way up to the old testament chapter, of his book( I work a lot). But i must say, reading so far, this is the most powerful, and best book I've read. If you're into religion[Deep], especially Christianity, and you read this book, you won't feel same about your religion. You will most certainly see it in a new light, and maybe reject it.
LogicLyfe 11 months ago
it was okay not the best good beginning of the music but didn't make sense it was not about what he did towards the revolution more at the point about' common sense ' he was important for the message he put out this video talks more about the message he learned doesn't teach much to me but nice try!
dbl1 1 year ago
The most badass founding father. "Age Of Reason" is one of my favorite religious texts
AllNightDayDream 1 year ago 4
No matter what he was for or against the founding fathers all agreed on the constitution.A libertarian document.
xxDogsoldierxx 1 year ago
I'm doing a report on him...Only 6 people attended his funeral :(
WellIcantthinkofone 1 year ago
“ The evil that has resulted from the error of the schools, in teaching natural philosophy as an accomplishment only, has been that of generating in the pupils a species of atheism. Instead of looking through the works of creation to the Creator himself, they stop short, and employ the knowledge they acquire to create doubts of his existence. They labour with studied ingenuity to ascribe....., and jump over all the rest by saying, that matter is eternal.”: The Existence of God--1810 Thomas Paine
LambLion777 1 year ago
I know there is a list of 20 books that changed America and COMMON SENSE by Thomas Paine is listed as number one.
TheMrDeist 1 year ago
If you like him then that means your against religion but I highly doubt it since your a fucking Republican.
Sorax999 1 year ago
I love Tom Paine. His views were actually more or less Left Libertarian, as in he believed in almost absolute freedom, as well as equality among the people. He was left sided (one of my friends calls him a socialist) but he was not liberal for he did not believe in big government. He believed that government was a necessary evil, and at its best was permitable. He surely is one of my political and philosophical idols.
shawnwilliams77 1 year ago
@shawnwilliams77
Epic fail answer. "but he was not liberal for he did not believe in big government."
A: Look up the world "liberal". It is defined: "A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority"
B: Thomas Paine advocated for redistribution of wealth.
nafaidni 1 year ago
@nafaidni wrong nafaidni. The Republican party has denounced Paine as a communist and a socialist. Start reading. It'll help you.
sgtrock66 1 year ago 3
@sgtrock66 Do you have any references for this?
equsnarnd 1 year ago
@nafaidni
sgtrock66 1 year ago
Related to this guy, quiet proud of it too, lol.
DMCv3142 1 year ago
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When it shall be said in any country in the world, my poor are happy; neither ignorance nor distress is to be found among them; my jails are empty of prisoners, my streets of beggars; the aged are not in want, the taxes are not oppressive; the rational world is my friend, because I am the friend of its happiness: when these things can be said, then may that country boast its constitution and its government. Thomas Paine, Rights of Man
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usrevolution2 1 year ago
Wow... never knew this. Thanks for the future research.
3BricksHigher 1 year ago
You guys : - In this Video, what is a truy beautiful the symphonic pieace ? Where is it come from ?
tuyentube 1 year ago
This music is idiotic and sucks.
mayabelldotcom 1 year ago
You the people are idiots & stupids. You the people put the government you have now in power. You the people are lazy, selfish cowards & want others to fight & risk their life for you to live in comfort & in peace. Peace & justice is not given to you by criminals, you have to work for it. You the people are worthless scum who don't care about nobody--steal & loot other nations to live in comfort. You the people will kill children to survive in comfort, not just survive. You deserve what you get.
mayabelldotcom 1 year ago
@mayabelldotcom We voted on the Constitution? Last I checked it was written in 1787 and ratified in 1789! Last I checked Income Tax was passed in 1918! Last I checked, Social Security was passed in the 1930s and medicare in the 1960s!
Last I checked - we have had a dysfunctional system of Party since the 1880s! Most voters were not alive at any of these times, fool!
luciusETRUR 1 year ago
@mayabelldotcom
You are full of crap. Learn some history and then go to hell.
4sylum1nmate 1 year ago
@4sylum1nmate read paine's letter i have on this page or my page
TheWICCACHANNEL 1 year ago
Don't thread on the American people or the USA government, nothing good will ever come out of them. Ha ha.
mayabelldotcom 1 year ago
Too bad poor ole Tom shot blanks :(
MaximumCraig 2 years ago
He didn't. As I recall, his first wife died in childbirth with his first and only child .
thegools 2 years ago
@MaximumCraig His first wife died in childbirth. He formally seperated from his second.
FoxofNight 1 year ago
AWESOME VIDEO!!! LOVE LOVE LOVE Thomas Paine!
emmylane 2 years ago 3
Good job. More people need to learn about him.
6st6wi6 2 years ago 3
He also spurred the French Revolution of 1789, but even too radical for them. It's a shame he died a pauper and penniless.
321radmann 2 years ago 30
LOL eye of the tiger...
OneCrayGuy89 2 years ago
thomas paine is awesome. the best of the founding father. a true radical. his ideas were so ahead of the curve that even the other founding fathers couldn't handle it. he was practically the only one against slavery. and I think he would be ashamed of the teabaggers of this day.
ddean1987 2 years ago 5
What is shameful about honest political dissent?
arubberball 2 years ago
@ddean1987 Why would he be ashamed of the Tea Party people......don't run from the truth.
catndryer 1 year ago
@catndryer Because much of what the tea baggers stand for are in direct conflict with what he wrote about and subsequently, our nation was founded upon. This one man had more to do with the writing of our constitution and the declaration of independence than any other one man. Followed by Jefferson who took what he wrote and then made it palatable for the people of the time.
Simply read the age of reason and common sense and you will see they are in direct conflict with tea baggers
thechurchofdave 1 year ago 2
@catndryer lol you're asking why would he be ashamed of the Tea Party? He practically invented the ideas of welfare, social security and minimum wage. He was against land ownership, he said the world was his country, he HATED Christianity, he was one of the most progressive, intellectual, anti-religious minds of all time. Can anyone even remotely put those three characteristics and the tea party in the same sentence? No.
trtnec 1 year ago 5
@trtnec He wasn't against land ownership. He viewed that land was by moral right common property but that society benefited from "landed property" & proposed that land be taxed as a form of rent to pay for schools, an old age pension etcetera.
Fuctmentality 1 year ago
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fuck you stupid im sorry for you because you have been brainwashed xaxaxaxxaxxaxaxaaxaxaaxxaxa
ghostofathens 2 years ago
It is important to remember though, that through WAR we will only get a watered down version of the same elitist control after all is said and done. War is their business to profit from at the expense of OUR lives.
Join the Zeitgeist movement for the world we ALL deserve.
blaziermissy 2 years ago
zeitgeist... LMAO
2LeBronJordan3 2 years ago
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blaziermissy 2 years ago
Exactly, Statist condoned aggressive offensive wars are nothing more than a money making game.
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jshenefelt 2 years ago
Paine probably wanted you to be as religious as you wished, but not to impose your views violently on others... inquisitions come from zelous humans. not from Christ, Muhammad or Buddha
gunthaarz 2 years ago
No he actually wanted people to scrutinize the bible and other religious texts and realize it was all made by man and preached Deism. Man's word is imperfect and doesn't give us the proper interpretation of god or his will. It's like trying to look through cloudy water.
Luigi84289 2 years ago 33
@Luigi84289
Sorry, but that is the dumbest comment I have ever read? "Like trying to look through cloudy water" what a silly statement. The founding father were able to see exactly what happens when religious nuts have a hand in political judgments. This is exactly why the majority of the Founding Fathers were Deists and not theists, that and they were just to intelligent to buy it. You'll find that most intelligent people can see right through religious bullshit, it's design chains the dumb.
ThePuzzler81 6 months ago 2
@ThePuzzler81 Speak for yourself. Who has 27 thumbs ups?
Luigi84289 6 months ago
@Luigi84289 thomas jefferson designed UVA with a library at its center to avoid religion. Every college in Europe had a church in the center at the time. He wanted people to open their eyes to knowledge, science and reason and away from religion. Thomas Paine was no different
gnutsrocknroll 3 months ago
@gnutsrocknroll Religious texts do nothing more than try to convince man that he knows something he doesn't. That ignorance is knowledge by labeling ignorance "God". The only thing that a "God" label fits upon is all of reality, that is everything that exists. Trying to place limits on the concept of God by bringing it inside the realm of existence undermines it. God cannot be part of existence but must necessarily to be a real concept be all of it.
Luigi84289 3 months ago
@Luigi84289 there is a guru who was having an argument about god. someone said to him that "god doesnt make junk". the guru replied "yeah, well it doesnt make junkyards either" :)
i thought you might like that given what you said.
paragshah2112 2 months ago
Paine never rose anyone from the dead neither have any Athiests or Obama!
RobertGuido 2 years ago
TP was a great revolutionary however, Atheits hasve hijacked his Diest ideas and use it to espouse their ideas. TP professed to beleive in God, however, not in the Church of his time. Nowadays I am sure he would love the advances in tech to allow people to study the Bible closly in various translations.
RobertGuido 2 years ago
We have just come back from New Rochelle, NY, where Thomas Paine lived. He truly was a brave man to have spoken up to protest against the King and for human rights. There you can visit part of his house and speak to the very informative guide who works there. God bless heros like Mr. Paine.
mazzzie 2 years ago
he gave you everything america and you deserted him in his hour of need
pharoahsoulero 2 years ago
thom paine believed in universal education
urasmore 2 years ago 2
thomas paine is my favorite....i live in new rochelle, his house is directly across the street from my high school :)
commiTom 2 years ago
Ben Franklin said the American revolution would not have happened had it not been for Paine. However, the reason Paine is buried somewhere in France is because he was a very outspoken ATHEIST. "The Age of Reason" lays this out very clearly. His views scared many (and still do) so he went where he was accepted for not believing in an imaginary being. Thomas Jefferson (also atheist) was his only real friend in America. So tragic how someone who saves your country can be disposed of so easily.
trevorsbass 2 years ago
The 4th paragraph of The Age of Reason is, " I believe in one God, and no more; and I hope for happiness beyond this life." Payne and Jefferson were not athiest but deist, believing in a God but not the God as put forward by Christian churches.
joedrui 2 years ago 4
I stand corrected. True, he very much was a deist. It's easier to say he's an atheist because people may misunderstand what an atheist actually is, but many have never heard of a "deist". But you're right. He hated religion. That made him an outcast.
trevorsbass 2 years ago
Yeah well basically, an important thing to note is that all this deistic founding fathers would have undoubtedly been atheists had they lived today.
FreeInquisition 2 years ago
Sorry I just read these later comments. Someone already beat me to it. Paine was definitly a bad ass.
mnutt12 2 years ago
I am sure that Jesus an Thomas Paine get along, Paine's argument was not with Jesus butrather the Church of his time.
RobertGuido 2 years ago
@RobertGuido no, he hated the Bible itself. Not just the church of his time. Try reading the Old Testament and you'll see why he hated it. Read The Age of Reason by him. He abhorred Christianity itself, along with the other religions of the time.
trtnec 1 year ago 3
Paine was a deist, and got more shit for it than the atheists did.
FreeInquisition 2 years ago 2
Actually Paine was a Deist as was Jefferson and Franklin. Paine took a stance against the athiest movement during the French revolution.
mnutt12 2 years ago 3
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dmax631 9 months ago
Great video, just one minor issue. Thomas Paine did not 'invent' the suspension bridge. Cultures all over the world have been building them for thousand of years. Tom only designed a few, not invented them.
Just2pisUoff 2 years ago
Hell the other side of the pond always likes making fun of us stupid janks, well if it wasn't for us you bitches would be speaking German!!
Vegasgodless 2 years ago
? well not sure what the 'janks' ever did for us, but your president virtually had to engineer a war with the Japanese, to get the population to accept that he had to take you into a war, and since you were more German than much else and such a country of antisemites, that was no mean feat!
benwest10 2 years ago
this was reply to someone down a page, not a comment on Paine, my apologies
benwest10 2 years ago
Brilliant man, one of my favourite historicalfigures. He was so advanced in his thinking of the time it's unbelievable, however I think his successes and the impact of his work has been exaggerated over time-nonetheless significant.
LittleLabourMester 2 years ago
Americans have been so dumbed down, Most dont even know what rites there lacking. To start with whats your money made out of? Silver & Gold like the constitution states it should be! You buy a car what do you do with the title? Hand it over to motor vehicle if you want to drive it! Own land? No you pay taxes to live on it or it goes back in the hands of the government. Each state has to amend the constitution.Rightfully,We should all have gotten public law degrees! We are a belligerent society!
twostrokeblusmoke 2 years ago
LOL!
jayv1980 2 years ago
This shit makes me feel angry against George Washington and England. (George because of the history between him and Paine in the end)
HumanStrategy 2 years ago
thomaspainereturns. net
In these times that try men's souls, those without souls need to be tried and convicted. They are the culprits. They are the criminals. They are the evil slave masters.
LoveAndLiberty1776 2 years ago
thomaspainereturns. net
Have people become too complacent with modern living? Have people forgotten the tyranny of subjugation to a king? Have people forgotten the horrors of slavery? Will they wake up before it is too late?
LoveAndLiberty1776 2 years ago
Very good! Found it thoroughly entertaining. Im from Thetford and used to walk by his statue every day without knowing anything about him!
TinaaLee 2 years ago
Thomas Paine rocks!
inmyheart313131 2 years ago 4
The Brit Thomas Paine advocated FREETHINKING..which is thinking based on reason, not dictated by dogma, institutionalized religion, authority..being OBEDIENT SHEEP..thats gullible america..hence america alienated him for it
Brits as FREETHINKERS.. theres no "God told me to invade Iraq"..wacko shit.. thats gullible americans as simple folk do what they're told, dont question authority. In Britain religion and state kept seperate..hence Brits have feet on the ground, freely THINK FOR THEMSELVES
Ali74 2 years ago
dont you guys have sharia law now?
BRUCELEEonLSD 2 years ago
LOLz... I aint British, anyways... 93% of Brits are white, so naaaaaah
...Scaremongering, brainwashed.. wake up obedient yankEE
There are retards who are anti american, im merely anti brainwash, as i support Freethinking.. which america does not.
Ali74 2 years ago
sure thing buddy
BRUCELEEonLSD 2 years ago
That's not quite the case mate! The Church of England is the established religion in England and the Church of Scotlans is the same in that country.
It is the non-conformist churches (Baptist, Methodist, Congregationalist and Presbyterian) which have historically provided the free thinkers in Britain.
Our American friends have seperation of church and state in theory, but in practice their politicians get nowhere unless they at least pretend to be Christian.
Larkin1907 2 years ago
i agree, u.s. politics is fucked up but not everyone here see's the same way as the goverment.
cyberbully377 2 years ago
I realise that mate! Those anti-war demonstrations in the US looked superb.
Larkin1907 2 years ago
this isn't directed towards you its directed towards everyone on here saying american's are all lesser than everyone else because are leaders and politicians are lieing to us and many people believe them.
cyberbully377 2 years ago
Only an idiot would think politicians are representative of the people of an entire nation.
I'm a member of the IWW, so I know something of the contribution Americans have made in fighting for real liberty.
Larkin1907 2 years ago
i agree
cyberbully377 2 years ago
"Brits as FREETHINKERS"
You're a very naive and simple person.
There is plenty of conformity and herd-following in the UK. Look at the football hooliganism, the trendies and fashionistas, the tabloid media...
You're living in a dreamworld if you imagine otherwise.
(waits for Ali74 to make another fool of him/herself with attavcks on my nationality)
truekiwijoker 2 years ago
kiwister... when is the last time a Brit PM said... "God told me to do it".. in reference to a political decision.. such as Dubya on Iraq???
He'd get laughed out of town.. you have no idea what the religious obedience is like throughout America (tho NY and LA are more sane)
Ali74 2 years ago
How about Lord Asquith in the first world war telling young men it was godly to sign up and get sent over the top?
Conformity doesn't have to strictly be along religious grounds. The UK may not buy into Christianity as much as the USA (along with the rest of the Western world bar South Africa) but they conform much more in sports teams they support, fashion/pop music, euphoric public opinion and just as much in politics and community.
truekiwijoker 2 years ago
hmm.. kinda agree with others, however unquestioned US conformity to religion means that obedience spreads to other areas.. hence lack of critical thinking and the gullibilty stereotype of America
Have a conversation with a Brit.. (and bullshit) have that same conversation with an American.. 99 times out of 100 the Brit will rumble you before American. There aint Bible Belts in Britain, there aint prolific UFO sighting, Blaine does trick in London, eggs get thrown, does same in NY gets lauded
Ali74 2 years ago
"means that obedience spreads to other areas"
What about in consumerism? Americans have a reputation for being much more non-conformists in that regard.
"gullibilty stereotype of America"
America most certainly does NOT have a stereotype of gullibility. It does have a stereotype for insularity and ignorance of the wider world, but not gullibility.
truekiwijoker 2 years ago
"99 times out of 100 the Brit will rumble you before American"
I would STRONGLY dispute that. That might be true for middle/upper class Brits but not for the working/under class Brits. And even amongst the former classes alot of it is just due to arrogance, Usually when you press deeper beyond the facade they don't actually have a clue what they're talking about.
"There aint Bible Belts in Britain, there aint prolific UFO sighting"
Nor in any other country bar the USA.
truekiwijoker 2 years ago
Does the USA have:
* Hooliganism?
* Large scale far-right political movements?
* Rigid class snobbery?
* Tabloid media (beyond the national enquirer)?
"Blaine does trick in London, eggs get thrown, does same in NY gets lauded"
And how well would sex scandals and class based nepotism go down in the USA?
UK are no more reasoning than anyone else and the USA no less. They just follow different shepherds.
truekiwijoker 2 years ago
Err u cant do sarcasm ruggers boy..hence reference to american gullibilty stereotype i didnt chuckle..."its aliens"- al murray..LOLz
Hooliganism?..lmao, comparing that to america with worst homicide rate in western civilization..pssh. Regards US sportsmen, convicted killers, rapists, dog fighting rings, players who exhibit gang signs... then theres OJ
Snobbery..trivial comparison vs the worst rate of Inequality on the planet. Sex scandal/paedophilia..APT timing, u gots ze $cash$ u get off
Ali74 2 years ago
"Err u cant do sarcasm"
[interrupting]
Ali..
..FFS. Grow up. You weren't trying to be sarcastic. If you were, it would make no sense.
Really, its long overdue you faced the fact you're not very intelligent.
"america with worst homicide rate in western civilization"
Are you sure about that? you might want to look up Colombia for one.
"sportsmen"
Well I wasn't actually referring to the sportsmen Ali, I was talking about the fans/supporters. Are you really ignorant of 'football firms'?
truekiwijoker 2 years ago
convicted killers, rapists, dog fighting rings, players who exhibit gang signs... then theres OJ
And what makes you think English sportsmen, especially footballers, are any more squeaky? Do you know about the frequent group rape scandals? One of which involved no less than one W Rooney? Or what about Steve Gerrards unprovoked assault last year? And thats just the tip!
Some English clubs are notorious for links with organised crime and corruption.
truekiwijoker 2 years ago
the worst rate of Inequality on the planet
You clearly have a very limited view of the world. Worse than Brasil? Mexico? The rest of latin America? Most of Africa & Asia?
Social inequality in the USA is NOTHING to be ashamed of, it just has some extremes thanks to scale.
Sex scandal/paedophilia
LOL! you really have NO IDEA about British politics do you? Take another look at the Tory party
truekiwijoker 2 years ago
laughtastic.. stick to Ruggers kiwi boy.. stick to Ruggers
Ali74 2 years ago
LOL Whatever. I win (again).
You might not be half the joke you are if you learnt how to lose graciously. [headpat]
truekiwijoker 2 years ago
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property... Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them."
-- Thomas Paine
GunOwnerDan 2 years ago
US neocons would hate Thomas Paine if he were alive now. can you imagine the right wing talk show hosts and morons 0'rielly.
Boccherini64 2 years ago 3
"The peaceable part of mankind will be continually overrun by the vile and abandoned, while they neglect the means of self defense."
-- Thomas Paine, The Writings of Thomas Paine, Vol. I
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GunOwnerDan 2 years ago
Thomas Piane wouldn't support a gun freak like you my friend! not in this day and age
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maddogtannen1966 2 years ago
He defended humanity and freedom until the day he died. The only men to attend his funeral were black.
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maddogtannen1966 2 years ago
Thomas Paine
"About religion, The Age of Reason says: I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church. All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."
dragon82a 2 years ago
Odd. I don't know what his nose has to do with anything or why we need dramatic music making him into superman. It will be refreshing to learn about someone who was rather frank with his viewpoints in the 1700s
poetinasia 2 years ago
Minor comment, but that suspension bridge model looks mighty unstable, to me, :-)
urgener 2 years ago
Thomas Paine - #34 Greatest Briton, arrived in america 1774 in time for Revolution, wrote Common sense (Jan 1776) signed "Written by an Englishman", advocated American independence from Britain (1st to say united states of america). Wrote Rights of Man (pubished London 1791), Violently opposed Washington owning Slaves. Wrote Age of Reason 1794, "followed in tradition of 18th century British deism"..arguing against Christian doctrines, call for "free rational inquiry" into all subjects, religion,
Ali74 2 years ago
Totally agree, remember he was also a supporter of universal sufferage! #34 should be higher up the list.
Boccherini64 2 years ago 2
Paine being ranked as #34 greatest Brit, i agree.
...An american could never have written 'Common sense', its takes critical thinking and Paine had that in abundance.. the most influential written work at a time when independence was undecided
'Rights of Man'.. published in London, another classic, at this point he ridiculed g.washington and his slave ownership
'Age of Reason'.. followed British deism argued against unfree Religous doctrine. Pro freethinking, this alienated him to yanks
Ali74 2 years ago
haha.. right wing lemmings
america renowned as nation that dont critically think, anyone that does is an outcast as america is a nation of followers. Thats the ethos of the nation..anyone that expresses critcal thought is instantly slandered as anti american... hence america breeds dumb, gullible obedient workers...and thats how the owners want it as they line their pockets while the gullible masses get fleeced with shitty standard of living, healthcare, education, low pay, poor holidays..etc
Ali74 2 years ago
Great video. It is good to know there were some liberal democrats even back then (unlike the wingnuts would want us to beleive)
badmuffy 2 years ago
Liberal? In the sense that he loved freedom. Democrat? In what sense.. Democrats that were about to take shape and did take shape in his time, were very conservative and so was Thomas Paine! He wouldn't agree with paper money.. welfare.. federal government inside education...
Alexander Hamilton, one of the most left-wing founders, wouldn't even accept today's government!
luciusETRUR 2 years ago
Then your in for a long eight years buddy.
EdmundSquid 2 years ago
Why Liberals do what they do..........Liberals have this need to aspouse their beliefs on others constantly.......all the time.......forever... Just like Rosie Odonell...Why , because its a moral imperative and a religion to them . They are a needy wanton people who cant intellectually handle going to traditional church for their religious needs because it makes them feel inferior . I.E. Mental Illness . Get some help ! !
maddogtannen1966 2 years ago
"They are a needy wanton people who cant intellectually handle going to traditional church for their religious needs because it makes them feel inferior"
I'm not sure who you are insulting here? The Liberals, or the people attending 'traditional church'. They are both equally ignorant and devoid of facts... At least, that's my opinion.
LordBLB 2 years ago
I don't know you, but due to this comment I am guessing you are mentally ill.
You want to murder somebody who has different ideas..you should probably join the Taliban.
TheArcaneAvenger 2 years ago
everyone who ownes a gun should be arrested.you should turn in your guns to your local police station.viva la new world order!!!
swamped45 2 years ago
NEVER. The second amendment is part of America and it is the keeper of freedom.
PA28140 2 years ago 4
It is the concert of Europe aiding britain in regaining her lost colonies. the very reason for the Monroe doctrine to be enforced!
supressorgrid 2 years ago
we need to reclaim America its easy just seperate the states from the fed and raise the state militias peacefully and legally...then hold a new legidimate election by the people of the usa...elect a new president and ask the rest of the armed forces and government agencies to turn over power to the legally elected new president of the usa...then try the crooked bastards is dc for treason.....simple!!
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maddogtannen1966 2 years ago
Impeach Obama. A heck of a lot of Americans have been duped (I wasn't one of them).
Twelve days after his innauguration, I met the first three Obama supporters with buyer's remorse. Wonder how many more there are.
ziglet2008 2 years ago
ARREST OBAMA NOW!
Gatoreffer 2 years ago 3
Music dub....lost me....have a good one
fuggsakes 2 years ago
Too bad we don't have patriots like him nowadays. Instead, we have people like nancy pelosi. barney frank and chris dodd. People who haven't been born yet will write of these people as utter fools. They are condemned to the ash heap of societal failures. May they all rot in Hell!!!
mofi427 2 years ago
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Philhelm 2 years ago
as much as i agree with them being failers no one should want anybody to go to hell, but yes, they are misguided
drewrcr 2 years ago
If thomas paine was alive today, his views would be considered socialist. Those who claim to admire Paine are selective of his thoughts, he was for progressive taxation as a means of alleviating poverty and wanted social security as a right for everyone.
The genius of the man is not wanting a revolution but laying out a blueprint of what should be the result of one.
xdir 2 years ago
Normally, I would point out the wrong in your sentence.
But I am just going to say this:
You can't even stand up to what Thomas Paine did, and I swear if it came down to it, you would have been just like the other 75 percent of Americans back then, no balls and crying out to mother goverment to help you.
TheArcaneAvenger 2 years ago
Awesome video. Not many today subscribe to "Common sense." Most people are out to get rich at their neighboor's expense. We think we can print and tax ourselves into prosperity. I wonder what Thomas would write about today's problems.
Oh, and nice usage of he Hook soundtrack.
renegade2142 2 years ago
His greatest efforts were exposing the mythology of religion. That Christianity is simply astrotheology. Carbon copy solar saviors before Jesus - they all were the SUN/SON. Try telling people that in this supposed enlightened age of deluded sun worshippers.
"The christian religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun." Thomas Paine.
Noisycowonline 2 years ago
lol someone gave you a thumbs down for quoting Paine.
Maybe those who quote Paine & common sense as means of revolution should read the rights of man. They will see a man whose views are opposite to theirs and will probably end up hating him for being a socialist.
xdir 2 years ago
Paine's The Age of Reason was byfar his greatest work, surpassing even Common Sense, especially considering he wrote it in a French prison.
jdbncjdnbvujbsjcn 2 years ago 3
I wish that someone would make a kick ass Thomas Paine movie. His crazy life is perfect for the big screen.
waggabu 2 years ago
Oops! Somebody made a mistake! The second image show in this video clip is Samuel Adams, not Thomas Paine.
Nice video nonetheless!
crumpersRus 2 years ago
That might've been intentional. Meaning after all that went down in history, it was time for a beer. LOL!!!! JK.
Awesome vid.
UrbanTiger74 2 years ago
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clarkr3000 2 years ago
Awesome
kidwonder18 2 years ago
I really liked this. Just a couple of factual errors need correcting. I just read a very good short book on Paine by Harry Harmer, who I think lives in Lewes, the town in England that Paine lived in before coming to America.
Streatham1966 2 years ago
what are the errors?
ledpoizn 2 years ago
And, about all you'd get today is:
Thomas 'WHO'???
Really sad.
jlance369 2 years ago 4
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Hilife808 2 years ago
Paine is an English hero too... Well to many of us! Particularly to us who are republicans.
Boccherini64 2 years ago
Yeah! Knock 'em the fuck out Paine! Ooh, the eye of tha tigahuuur, na, NA na na, NA na na, NA na nuuuh nuh...
padaalsa 3 years ago
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No! The founding fathers weren't afraid of takeing on slavery they were afraid of looseing there many slaves plantations & money, remember when the US was founded you couldn't vote unless you owned land.
Land of the free indeed. HA!
kingsman565 3 years ago
Free for some! If you were white and land owners, actually that was exactly the same as England at the time! many blacks voted with their feet during the war and faught for the British, including Washingtons and Patrick Henrys favourite slaves. "Give me liberty or give me death" my arse!
Boccherini64 2 years ago
Those was the smart folks. If you ask me nations are like banks would you give your life to your bank out of a sense of loyalty? Yeah right so you would, so why die for a country? "Give me liberty or give me death" the cry should be "Give me peace & a plot to call my own & leave me the hell alone!" By being a citizen of any nation you forfeit your rights so maby those black slaves where abit more clued up than the rest of us.
kingsman565 2 years ago
I know...what a crazy idea! I guess they didn't want people who did not own anything having the ability to vote for things that would take away from those who did own something.
pythos82 2 years ago
Ever taken the time to read the correspondences between Paine and Washington from some years after the Revolution? Paine called Washington a fraud to his face in his one letter. I stand by what I said regarding G.W. despising Paine and letting him hang out to dry while imprisoned in France.
Cliner97 3 years ago 3
Bullcrap mighty1teapot
Cliner97 3 years ago 3
I think Paines' and any other individual that has taken a stand for the freedom of others, overall message was that if you are witness to wrongdoing in any of it's forms MAKE A FUSS.
muzzleray 3 years ago 3