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  • lomna lomna lomnadiee 

  • @abbeltuinstra l'omme , l'omme l'omme armé ... a man, a man, a man of arms :)

  • Jenkins is genius!!

  • The relationship between music making& worship of God or Deities is perhaps as old as prostitution & militarism. The worship aspect is often connected with giving thanks to God for victory in battle A requiem is often set in the context of war as a prayer for dead souls. Many civilisations have developed a narrative for expressing a particularly universal view of God as a kind of benevolent overseer of human bloodshed who helps one side win & gives succour to the defeated which Jesus disputes.

  • Where is the rest :/

  • @xenon1919 doesn't the complexity of life puzzle you that people say that it could have made itself that way? Don't you see that everything is meaningless without god because without him everything is done for the glory of yourself

  • @xenon1919 to make that proclamation is to assume you yourself are correct and therefore a hypocrite, the argument dosen't work philosophically it's like the analogy that there's an elephant and different religions hold to different parts of the elephant but it really makes something bigger, this however is an assumption

  • L'Homme Armé ^^

  • I don't believe this song was written by Dufay although he frequently gets the credit for it. Many sources say this was a popular song before Dufay used it.

  • @Fladabosco No. Definitely NOT written by Dufay. The song is much, much older. 

  • Wonderful piece of music 'The Armed man'

  • Strefanasha seems missed a point of the mass - to foster peace among all peoples. She/he suggests a christocentric attitude which has caused much grief over the history of christendom.

  • @kdwilliams59 if you look at christ's teachings and doctrine it was not a christocentric view that caused the grief you speak of, but a rejection of this by a church that defied christ's teaching as it thought too highly of itself.

    music civilizes? this is utter nonsense. After all Reinhold Heydrich the Nazi Jew Killer was a passionate violinist, son of a minor composer, and civilized he was not,. a man of peace he was not.

  • as a musician i have performed this once. it is a nice piece. i could not call it a great work but it has some beautiful moments.

    however i was disappointed that this mass had no credo and included a muslim call to prayer.

    to try to reach all gods is to reach none

  • @Strefanasha I'm surprised and saddened by you intolerance of other religions. If there is a God, I think he loves what is good and beautiful, not merely one people or one faith.

  • @xenon1919 not intolerance. disagreement. there is a difference. the religions all have insurmoutable logical differences. they can't ALL be true, and if no god exists at all then musical efforts like this are a waste of time. they certainly will not foster peace. such thinking is naive in the extreme. But if God exists he has made manifest which way is right. to try to reach all gods is still to reach none

  • @Strefanasha Why would music be a waste of time if no God exists? It is beautiful. Isn't that enough reason? Conversely, why would music be any more meaningful if God DID exist? Because he would he it and maybe like it? If he is omnipotent he has heard all sounds already, heard all our thoughts, knows what choices we will make in the future, etc. There is only biological life. Glorious, complex, life.

  • @xenon1919 you don't even know how wrong you are....best regards friend!

  • Brilliant, is there a DVD I have the CD but would love a DV D of this concert

  • 'God and the devil are fighting… and the battlefield is the heart of man.' -Dostoyevsky

  • Just watched the Nottingham Trent university choir perform this. Absolutely spellbinding and tragic at the same time.

  • I hope our performance on Saturday of this week in the Isle of Man sounds as good as this :)

  • Doing lots of Karl Jenkins pieces for my school concert tomorow so nervous! And I am in the front row!

  • Can anyone reference me to more pieces like this, I love the mass singing.

  • Excellent arrangement! Thank you for the vid! Am I missing something... The ending seems cut-off on this... is there another vid recording of this piece with the ending included?

  • This is a composition from Guillaume Dufay, but it is one of the best interpretations i've heard.

  • @AvengerXP This piece is from Dufay but the whole mass is by him... He´s not saying that L´homme armé is from Jenkins...

  • Jenkin's Mass for Peace is a fine piece of music. And that from a composer who was once member of Soft Machine. Their 3rd album is great, too, but that was before Jenkins joined. Anyway, l'Homme Armé is great, and the Benedictus even more so. War is hell.

  • This is very powerful and thought provoking

  • 5:8

  • bellissimo, lindo...

  • very nice! our choir is going to peform this too...

  • Karl Jenkin's = The Best Composer Alive without a doubt

  • Primitivissimo.

  • who have the complete video?

  • i love this oper!!!

  • I played this on percussion recently. It was really difficult not to get lost and you need about 7 percussionists to cover all the parts. We had 5.......

    I'm playing it again on Saturday (same choir, different orchestra) I just hope I get the same part.

  • "Thank goodness somebody's calling this for what it is--what a crime that this passes for great music today. Political posturing masquerading as high art and making a mockery of the traditional Christian mass while at it. Dreadful."

  • @maryevelyn2010 What utter garbage you spout. This piece, along with the others in the collection, are about the attitudes and perspectives of war - if you'd actually think and properly listen to each and every piece, you'd be able to understand what Mr Jenkins is saying.

    It is thought provoking music, that is designed to tell a story, not "political posturing" and it is certainly not mocking Christian mass.

    I wish ignorant people like you would actually think before posting such rubbish.

  • @maryevelyn2010

    So what, and people think rap is bad to. :I 

  • donde puedo encontrar la version completa

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  • se siente como se aproxima la tercera guerra mundial.... Suerte a todosss...

  • Magno!

  • Did the choir members PAY to participate in this crap?

  • putrid evil trash. what a sick moron this jenkins is. i have now heard enough youtubes on this psychopath. the very worst was the dies irae. SHAME ON THE WELSH OPERA AND ANYONE WHO SPREADS THIS VIRAL PUSS.

  • @goodguysdoll Absolutely right, goodguysdoll. The world is now full of these jenkins types - masquerading as composers. Beethoven was a composer. This man is not. There is absolutely not a shred of originality in this 'music.' It could have been written by any number of masqueraders over the last century. And DAMN those that participate in it - they only advance the fraud further.

  • @organman52 O Hallelujah. Let more of us voices speak from the wilderness. Let me add, it's trash. I'd bet that every musician of the Renaissance who ever used this song for a parody Mass did a better job even though it's not possible to hear them all! It sounds like a sound-track from a bad science fiction movie whose producers chose the wrong composer !

  • @alipitogen  then why don't you compose your own Renaissance Mass piece and then have it evaluated by others who are well known in that area of music with many years of expierence and see what they say about it.

  • @sintofg I am currently writing a Mass setting. It is not in any Renaissance style even though I like to weave my voices around a bit. It is, by my own estimation, languishing miserably below the standard of probably all Renaissance composers ever heard of, but , according to that same faculty of self criticism, if I did not consider it superior to the standard of KJ I would humbly call it a day. I lack the fame, the resources and, most crucially, the hard neck required for self promotion.

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  • Is it 'Benny Hill' as master conductor? Nooooo, just a Ratledge friend...

  • The best living composer!

  • @markusboyd3 Didn't know all the rest had died !

  • @alipitogen I said the BEST living compser...lol

  • I love it where the double basses adds onto the texture

    makes it more serious and grounded

  • Argh, why images of people marching for that murderous bastard Stalin?

  • @AdamAus85

    ...the song is called The Armed Man >.>

  • I have sung in this when I was 12. It moved me so much. Beautiful music <3

  • our orchestra is going to perform it too.

    now we're preparing it for the big concert

  • language?

  • @markusboyd3 Old French:

    L'homme armé doit on doubter,

    on a fait partout crier,

    que chasqu'n se veigne armer

    d'un haubregon de fer.

  • The vocals are.. amazing :D

  • oh wow, i love this!

  • I'm singing this in the DuPage Chorale at College of DuPage, Glen Ellyn, IL this May...incidentally, Karl Jenkins looks a bit like my conductor, with a similar mustache, but longer hair. But it is a fascinating piece, even though a few of the movements are a bit depressing.

  • Beware, Darth Vader Lives!

  • What a pitty this version cuts off before the end. Does anybody have a link to the full verison of this performance?

  • Try ksiads one. It looks like being the same choir and orchestra.

  • It's a shame your version cuts off before the end :(

  • What a great piece of music

    @WoRtH2die4

    The man, the man, the armed man,

    The armed man

    The armed man should be feared, should be feared.

    Everywhere it has been proclaimed

    That each man shall arm himself

    With a coat of iron mail.

  • i sung this at my school this easter. it was the most moving choral piece I have ever heard

    I'm only 13

  • Old French via Wikipedia:

    l'homme, l'homme, l'homme armé,

    l'homme armé,

    l'homme armé doibt on douter,

    doibt on douter,

    On a fait partout crier,

    Que chascun se viengne armer d'un hau bregon de fer,

    l'homme, l'homme, l'homme armé,

    l'homme armé,

    l'homme armé doibt on douter, on douter

  • if someone could translate it, would appreciate it

  • Looking forward to performing this on November 7, 2009 at Centennial Hall, London, Ontario. A brilliant masterpiece!

  • I'm in your choir!!

    One heck of a performance tonight, wasn't it? :D

  • I was just listen it tonight at Bellapais North Cyprus at the great athmosfer of abbey and the music mesage and the all esential things were great for us as a listeners..I was really breathless...

  • Dam good, i love Karl Jenkins and his The Armed Man: A Mass for Peace - The Armed Man. Its so a lovely and good

  • what language is the text for this in? french or latin? what are the lyrics?

  • french :)

  • no, of course not, but he is the intellectual owner of this version, and should get credit for the high quality of this particular interpretation.

  • tHE THIS PEACE...fANTASTIC... BY KARL JENKINS....

  • Thank you!

  • Who is the man on 1:44?

  • Josif Stalin

  • Stalin

  • Fuck, part of the music totally sounds like Caesar 3 background music...

  • Karal Jenkins has always composed great music I just love his music never bad

  • this song is not from Jenkins.

    it is originally the fifteenth century folk song L'homme armé.

    anyway his music's great! :)

  • yes, true but jenkins has changed it a lot from the original. plus there's several versions of it, so he made choices over which to use etc.

  • @KanonymusK

    Of course, none of the lyrics are by Jenkins. He's the composer of the music, and he took his texts from widely different sources.

  • @KanonymusK I believe this is Karl Jenkins' arrangement, as seen in "The Armed Man: A Mass for Peace." ^^

  • My choir performed this on tour and I did a solo in this peace. (The London Oratory School schola)

  • Superb!

    but why the truncated end?

  • que hermos!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Great! Come to Spoleto festival please!!!

  • magistral,sublime,precioso,no hay palabras,que majestuosidad

  • Great mass, got to perform it a couple of months ago with orchestra and it was a thrill!

  • the best composer

  • Actually I think this is one of the best songs ever composed! Close your eyes, turn around and you think the army fights in a war behind you...

  • Karl is a great composer ;]

  • I was there! Great performances, I have never seen so many performers on one stage.

  • @squidge125 This song was written by Guillaume Dufay (15-th century)

  • woo! i just performed the whole of this thing at snape maltings yeaterday!!! god it was AMAZING

  • I like the old French song that's used ("L'homme armé"), and there are some exciting flourishes and orchestral colours

    Unfortunately, as sometimes happens with Jenkins' music, it gets a bit repetitive without actually going anywhere

  • i agree, especially when youre performing it!!!

  • All the music deserved.

  • Amazing!

  • What tripe.

  • yesterday night i had the luck to sit for this performance, which was performed the Saint Monica choir here in Malta. it was absolutely wonderful, the performance was nothing short of perfection and the videos being showed on the screen help you the get into the atmosphere. WELL DONE

    if you are lucky and manage to find this wonderful piece of art being performed close to you GO! because it will be worth every penny!

  • oh, i played it in my orchestra...

  • I think the full score is only available to hire if you get the performance license.

    I was lucky enough to get a look at the score before the Auckland Premiere in the Auckland Town Hall on the Seventh of June 2008

  • This is wonderful, but it seems to cut off before the song is over! Is there a part two? Thanks!

  • /watch?v=lurKyTs9pSY

  • sung this yesterday with mike brewer :D

  • Mike Brewer Is an absolute legend

  • i sang this in my earlier years. lol

  • this guy is so cool

  • I loved singing this piece.

  • For those of you that don't know, Karl Jenkins is the conductor in this vid, with the mustache :)

  • this was my first intro to Karl Jenkins music, and what a fantastic find!

  • This is absolutely fantastic..

  • I saw this performed at the royal albert hall on 13 july,with the really big chorus. It's a stunning piece of music and just as good without the visuals.

  • A truly amazing piece.

    FYI: I sang in the chorus at the Royal albert Hall (13th July 2008)

  • simply brilliant! - how can i get the video projected at the background of this excellent performance - any suggestions please!

  • that man is a genius! <3

  • nothing is stronger than an orchester such as this one, Karl Jenkins ladies and gentlemen :)

  • stunning

  • i love this piece i'm currently working on it with my old chorus teachers adult church choir and it is so moving.

  • Should have asked. Who is this? Where do I get the DVD?

  • So impressive! Love the multi media. (where do I get a translation??)

  • Karl Jenkins is a genius ! He did a very great job with this whole piece of music. I did this piece once in school it's pretty impressing.

    thanks for posting it.(though the end is missing ^^)

  • **A full version of this wonderful video has posted by another user.**

    enjoy!

    /watch?v=lurKyTs9pSY

  • we're singing this in choir.

    I LOVE IT!

  • superb!..any chance you could repost it in full.

    It would be appreciated by all.

  • The end was cut off because of my calculation wrong at the time of extracting from the dvd.

    sorry

  • what a piss off, theres no end! :(

    great song though, sent shivers down my spine

  • that piccolo was late

  • we are singing he's all armed man!

    i looove it <3

  • porque cortaste el final?

    que mal hiciste

  • Great, wish the ending didn't cut off.

  • Napoleons Old Guard on the advance...

    would be a great Soundtrack! Damn good piece of art!

  • genial... mehr kann man zu dem Gesamtwerk: "The Armed Man" einfach nicht sagen.

  • This is great stuff!!

  • superlative performance. Sublime combination of sight and sound.Thanks for sharing.

  • I am in goosebumps. Awesome. I love Karl Jenkins!

  • This video misses out the best part!!! The ending's mean

  • oooo im playing all of the armed man suite this saturday! its gonna be soo amzing. the orchestrra sounds amazing!! does anyone have benedictus with a cello playing? at least i think its that peice. anyway,it all sounds amazing

     :]

  • that is bjutifol

  • c'est trop fort, c'est d'après la messe de l'homme armé de guillaume dufay (XVè siècle)

    evidemment, ca change de la version originale, mais c'est génial

  • it's red square in moscow

  • you mean the black and white vid in the background? I hope thats what you mean, because the performance was Glasgow Royal Concert Hall, September 11 2006, 7:30 pm.... your move.

  • yes i ment video black and white...that beautiful documentary...seems like you are good at dates:P

  • lol

  • Actually it wasn't Glasgow but St David's Hall Cardiff. This video was made by Opus Television for S4C (the Welsh channel) and recorded in January 2004, and subsequently released for sale on DVD by EMI.

  • where was this video taken? does anybody now?

  • best of forever

  • i performed it 3 times... once with an amazing brass band for the national quaker school mass choir which only happens once every 3 years... it woz awsome. another time i did the alto solo's...omg!!! i actually think i'm not worthy though... the other time woz just helping another choir out...

    does any1 have CHARGE as a video? cus i love it

  • in ours days, Karl Jenkins and his projects, are the evolution of Human Music.

  • Karl Jenkins is my favorite contemporary composer!

  • Having performed the Armed Man twice, once at Chartwell on the 60th anniversary of D-Day, I can attest for just how challenging this work is. Needless to say this performance sets ours to shame. I sing tenor.

  • The armed man is truely awesome, and im not normally a fan of choral music. does anyone have the bendictus

  • Karl Jenkins is a legend. Amazing!

  • Carl Jenkins, Gifted composer, who needs a shave.

    Yeah my highschools doing it too toward the end of may.

  • i saw my friend play this with SUSO in march 2007 in stockholm, it was AMAZING! it made me crie!

    i play the cello and so does he.

  • My brother was in the choir who sang this!

    I heard someone fainted while singing it...O.o

    Maybe it was another song, I forget...D:

  • We performed this piece yesterday... We had a ballet group who performed while we were singing, which was very dramatic.

    I had goosebumps singing it, it's just so amazing...so beautiful and touching. Thank you for uploading it!!

  • Great to see this! We will be performing this piece on May 4 2007, the Dutch Memorial Day for war victims, in Utrecht, the Netherlands. BTW, we are still looking for non-Dutch singers to join us :-)