@rocker316ify Both he and the Miz are good heels. For me, JBL was more fun to watch, but the Miz does seem to have more technical wrestling talent, in the department of throws. I do find his matches a bit boring though.
The Miz just does not have the look, the acting ability, or the wrestling skills of a superstar! People say he's great on the mic, when in fact, he sucks! Generic character, Generic catch phrases, His facial expressions look goofy, and so many other things too numerous to write down!
Fact of the matter is this, bro! I've been a wrestling fan for a long time. I've met Sycho Sid in a Florida restaurant, and the man they call Vader actually came to my school to sign autographs long ago. I know how wrestling work I know that you are just one of many fans that want wrestling to return to what it was just 10+ years ago, and I'm not fighting that. I also can why you wouldn't want a superhero type figure to be forced down your throat....Cont.
I don't respect chumps that have to win the WWE title via Money in the bank, having the title change hands every month makes it shit, but still, even with out money in the bank John Cena(who is worse then Miz and Vannessa Del Rio)still manages to get his title shot over and over again
Yea Miz definitely wanted to win the title since he got in the WWE. I nearly cried with him watching him win Money In the Bank and then win the title. It was nice to see someone's "boy hood dream" actually fulfilled in today's day and age of professional wrestling.
@condorhunter007 yeah same man i stopped just after the dx mcmahon feud when he was the host of smackdown and a complete joke but now hes the best in the wwe
and im glad he won this and hopefully he does it again
you know what i'm not a big miz fan and im not a fan of him being wwe champ but i like his reaction to winning you dont see ppl getting that excited about winning any title anymore
Miz may have good mic skills, but he in no way should be in the main event. His run with the WWE Title was horrible, with or with out Alex Riley being there.
I really hate what wrestling has become. It's a pure shame that a new generation of fans have to put up with this shit week in and week out. The WWE is basically saying not only to wrestlers around the globe but to fans that all you have to do, is talk in a mic & you'll be considered a good wrestler. Not saying it's bad to have mic skills...but mic skills should NOT be solely based on what makes a good wrestler. IMO it's 50% in-ring ability. 50% mic skills. That's what makes a good wrestler.
@rlp8907 dude mic skills have all ways counted more than wrestling ability, did you not watch during the attiude era? Where stone cold and the rock the best wrestlers in the locker room? No
Where they the best on the mic and the most charismatic therefore winning loads of titles and catapulted to legendary status? Yes
@spazrulzworld I can agree to most of this but let me ask you this. What parts of the attitude era did YOU watch? The wrestling or the mic skills? Now I'm not trying praise rock and austin for everything they did in the attitude era but austin and rock were great wrestlers. If you think for one minute that miz could hold a candle to these guys, then that's when your dead wrong. Now I'm trying my best not to bash miz but this is the best way I can sum him up: Good mic skills. Shitty wrestler.
@lilmijo619 i can ask as many people as i want. its still no proof. its about every persons own opinion and they werent the best wrestlers but they were the best entertainers.
@spazrulzworld You, sir, are the epitome of a bad wrestling fan. You say mic skills have always counted more than wrestling ability, and then you go back a decade!? The Attitude Era was not the start of the business and it wasn't even the best period in the business, just the most profitable.
Wrestling ability will always win out because, as Verne Gagne would say, "the marquee says 'WRESTLING.'" If you think otherwise, you should probably go watch something else.
@linesinaconversation First of all, thanks for calling me sir. Though I was just saying that The Rock and Austin got so popular because of there mic skills and charisma and not as much for there wrestliong ability and they are widely regarded as some of the best wrestlers to step in to the ring. Thats why i'm saying that if you have a less ability to talk even though you can wrestle on the biggest stage, often you will not become big.
@linesinaconversation I agree with your statement on a whole that wrestling ability should always win out but in the current state of WWE that's not the case. I even agree when you say the Attitude era was the most profitable, but I respectfully disagree that it wasn't the best period in WWE. I think a lot of traditional pro wrestling fans would agree that it was. It even peaked if you ask me. At the same time, it depends when that person started watching wresling too.
@macnastee I began watching in 1995 and while 1997 was a fantastic year for intrigue and innovation and 2000 was excellent also, a lot of the stuff from 98-99 is not all that great in retrospect, imo. I believe 2002-2004 was far more interesting. And I am not the only one who feels this way.
But there is and always will be something to hold interest and looking at the current product with disdain and whining about how awful Cena is (which he isn't, for the record) is a waste of time and energy.
@linesinaconversation I started watching back in the 80s and it has gotten progressively better to when you started watching it.I definitely agree with about 2002-04. I'll even go back to 2000-04. The thing about 98-99 was the watchability and enjoyment factor, a turning point in pro wrestling(Austin Rock, HHH etc.). 2000 because because of the increased in ring prestige with Benoit, Eddie G., Saturn, Malenko, Angle and Y2J. Perfect balance btw storyline n great wrestling. After 2005 it went DH
@linesinaconversation I agree with you....except when you say the Attitude Era wasn't the best period in the business. It was the best period for a number of reasons. Because the WWE started crossing lines and getting more raunchier and because there were competitions with WCW and ECW. It was a great time to be a wrestling fan.
@bjbawesome It's the best period in your opinion. Not everyone loves the attitude era. I grew up with the likes of hogan, savage, piper ect and that will be my favourite period because it brings back childhood memories. I lived through the attitude era and was older enough to realize what was going on and like many many people at that time i hated it. Attitude era truely shit on all that was wrestling and although it gained many casual fans, many hardcore fans back then hated it.
@imaheymanguy well back then they were limited to what they could do, but I get what you are saying. We both are using our opinions, but statistics will show the best period in wrestling history would be during the Monday Night Wars.......I stopped watching around 2001 or 2002....I wasn't alive during the Golden Era, but I have watched matches and enjoyed them. I just liked the Attitude Era more.
@linesinaconversation I personally think it needs to be the perfect combination of the two. If you are an amazing wrestler but are absolutely boring on the mic, I most likely don't want to see you(Or at least don't talk at all). At the same time, If someone is amazing on the mic but horrible in the ring, the best job they should have is a manager or something.
You're a dumbass. People care about personality and charisma, which is why some of the worst wrestlers are top draws (see Hogan). I'd take a great worker over a great wrestler any day.
@HolyMafiaLeader Dude, read my comment properly. I said Mic ability has counted More than ring ability, no doubt rock and stone cold were good wrestlers but where they the best out the AE roster? Fuck no. What I mean is that yes you need to be able to pull off a top match but your charisma is worth much more than that in WWE. Besides, Miz has been performing much better in the ring now a days and can only improve.
the Miz sucks but thank god he is no longer champion , well ok cena is no better they should make a match cena vs r-truth vs john morrison and one of them should win
miz is wwe champion? this is how pathetic and low the wwe has become.....its a joke PERIOD......He is holding the belt, that Bret and HBK had.....and guys like RVD or Mr.Perfect never had??? gosh one pathetic joke!!!
@KaguyaShenku0 well, I think I made it even fair....RVD is super underrated and was held back by wwe politics.....
I am sorry, YOUR wwe has actually made it worst....they made the miz wwe champ, something HBK used to hold and Bret Hart.....the biggest joke in wrestling history, besides the biggest WM scandal ever,when Cena beat HBK at wrestlemania 23, that was the biggest shame,scandal and joke in wrestling history.....sorry, rvd may not be in the same status,as hbk and bret...but he miz? pls
@muratshawn MY WWE? Ive been watching since a few months after Undertaker debuted and its hard for me to take anything you say seriously when you say the Cena/Michaels match was any kind of scandal let alone the biggest ever when especially the same man in that match (Shawn) was truly involved in the biggest scandal in the Montreal Screw Job
look, i have been a wwe fan since 1990 right around wrestlmania 6.....with scandal i meant, a joke, how a guy like cena could "beat" hbk at a wrestlemania main event....i mean seriously,that was the biggest joke in wrestling....u didnt have to bring up the screw job now do you? ur not a candian are u? lol look, i dont wanna fight nor argue....i guess u get my point and i get yours....I just think wwe has changed so much,that anyone these days can wear the belt...its a shame
@muratshawn You are 100% correct. I still see some hope for a few WWE stars though when I do watch. Not the same though =/. I used to fucking love watching wcw and raw
@muratshawn You are 100% correct. I still see some hope for a few WWE stars though when I do watch. Not the same though =/. I used to fucking love watching wcw and raw
@muratshawn I stopped watching WWE for a long time after HBK "lost" to Cena at WrestleMania. I do not understand why so many people in that company want to put Cena over. I want CM Punk to bury him so bad, he has to turn heel and tell the fans they turned on him for Punk ala Bret Hart towards Stone Cold in the beginning of the Attitude Era.
@muratshawn I totally agree with you, nowadays Sheamus is a two-time WWE Champion... Alberto Del Rio (copycat of JBL) 2 time WWE champion... Miz (wtf?) former WWE Champion... How that happened? Ask Vince...
And I'm tired of watch WWE waste talent of old school wrestlers like Christian and big wrestlers now and for the future like CM Punk... I wish CM Punk had never comeback and kept the WWE Title to himself. Maybe Vince would wake up!
Daniel Bryan, "future" of Smackdown? PLEASE, what a joke...
@muratshawn I'm not a Cena fan but Cena "beating" HBK at mania was Shawn Michaels putting him over. HBK had nothing else to prove and he wanted to help out Cena's career.
@muratshawn Because it hasn't always been like that, right? Maybe the truth is that wrestling hasn't changed, but you have? Maybe the 31 people that thumbed up your comment also miss that nostalgic feeling of wrestling when they first started watching it?
It's you and the 31 people that thumbed up your comment (who probably chant "Cena Sucks") that make me sick, because wrestling is more for younger kids, and all the millions of over grown adults who hate on wrestling now are just sad.
@troma333 CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS...feel sicker yet? CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS how about now? YOU ARE RETARDED, Wrestling is for everyone, adults don't hate on wrestling you idiotic 5 year old, we just don't accept when the writers cram a superman face down our throats week after week, we cheer who we cheer for, for you to have the audacity to claim that hating Cena is hating wrestling...CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS...feel sicker
@troma333 I was just poking fun at how you were telling everyone off, and you still insist wrestling is only for kids huh, when I was a kid i went and watched it with my dad, and now that I'm older I watch it with my kids, you REALLY think it's only for kids. I'm not a anti-cena fan you moron, I'm a fan of wrestling as a whole, you're taking this too personal, we arent arguing with you, we're laughing at you, go eat some fruity pebbles, and tell your mom to make me a sammich XD
@troma333 but really!? Wrestling is for kids, so all the adults in the arena's every night there's an event, there just there chaparoning the kids right? btw which part makes me shitty, the Cena Sucks part? the part where i said you have the audacity to say hating Cena is hating wrestling? was it the part where I said I don't respect chumps that win the WWE title via money in the bank? or where I called Del Rio, Vannessa? which part? lmao which part made you mad bro? u mad? why you mad bro?
@troma333 still laughing at you, not with you bro, laughing at you. fans cheer for who they cheer for, when everyone was on the stone cold wagon, chanting Rocky sucks, thats just the business man, i still cheered for my fave when he was the corporate champ heel, when someone cheers on their fave sports team i.e the Boston Red Sox, and booo the Yankees, is it any different? hmmmm? Zack Ryder is hilarious, stupid, but funny, now if he goes up against the Rock, then fuck him too haha still laughing
@troma333 you understand what I am saying right? When John Cena went to ECW one night stand and the audience was chanting "FUCKYOU" I thought that was fucked up, guy shows up, to put on a show and they crossed the line, but at the same time, John Cena's a big boy he deals with it, the Miz too, the wrestlers wrestle, the fans cheer on who they like, i just don't like Cena, Miz, Del Rio, but your angry at the Rocks fans for booing Cena, saying Cena sucks, he ain't crying about it, why are you?
@troma333 you ok bro? you need a tissue? you shouldn't take world wrestling entertainment so seriously, to the point where just cause people boo your fave it makes you sad. Both wrestlers and fans play their roles, is john cena your daddy? Is your name Fred? is it? if it is your movie, not my thing but the kids love it. John Cena and the Rock aren't reading these comments, they don't really care, but the booing makes you sad. still laughing XD
@KAZ3SHINII also remember being a kid and loving Hulk Hogan because I just did. A lot of kids really love John Cena, and what's wrong with that when his message is telling kids to 'never give up' and to 'rise above the hate?
You know, I don't know if you just hate John Cena, or if you just hate what the WWE represents now a days?
I'm not trying to make enemies with you KAZ3SHINI because the direction the WWE is heading is in question. But man did I love Hogan, and I bet a lot of kids love Cena
@troma333 i don't hate John Cena, one of the nicest guys in the world, i just hate how the WWE title is getting passed around like its the WCW championship, I'm a fan of Champions having a good run, not every other month they get Cena to drop the title then little while later, they're giving it to him again, Ric Flair is a great champion, but 16 time world champion, some of his runs were really short, Bret Hart didn't win the WWE title 16 times, not even close, but he really was awesome
@KAZ3SHINI You know what they should do? They should turn John Cena into the ultimate powerhouse villain. I mean, here's a guy full of enough steroids to life any wrestler about his head and F.U. him! Yet, why is it that just last night he was getting his ass handing to him by Zach Ryder?
John Cena is like an overpowered Lex Luger and Hulk Hogan combined....all muscle and wrestling moves and gimmicks being done, over and over again...
@troma333 Cena and The Miz completely suck and are nothing but douchebags and have ruined wrestling. They will never be as good as The Rock or Stone Cold or any other Attitude Era superstar! If you disagree with me then you have serious problems!
@Mylovekori0 what the fuck are you talking about. Miz deserved it more than anybody whats with christian he worked his ass off for 17 years to be a world champion and you are saying that this idiot deserved it more omg
the only way Miz was going to be champ because there is no way he would have ever beaten Randy Orton if Randy was 100% and didn't just finish another match
Cena can barely cut a promo without starting out quiet then GOING INTO RAGE MODE. Miz is one of the best talkers WWE has right now. Cena has had like two or three good promos in the last like 5 years. Miz really draws the heat just from talking. He isn't the greatest in-ring performer, but it gets the job done.
@genda77 Even so regardless if Miz is a heel he should get some sort of a reaction, but the crowd is silent. 10 years ago wheather that was triple H, brock lesnar or Hollywood Hogan as heels the crowd would still pop. looks like we'll have to agree to disagree the last thing i wanna do is come on here and troll about the Miz lol
Like Batista said, It's not a 'tough guy' sport anymore. His words: guys are more concerned with how much baby oil, make up to put on. Its pg". WWE've had a history a bad ass 'tough guy' heels in the past i.e. Triple H, Batista, Taker, Rock, Austin, Angle, Benoit JBL etc. The tough guy era ended IMO in 2006, but I still watch it. Another noteWWE superstars seem to be all getting main event pushes in under a year! WTH is that? Sheamus in 2 months, Wade Barrett/Del Rio already in title picture,
They were getting pushes because they have been wrestling for at least 6 years. The WWE is for the top professionals. Del Rio has wrestled for a decade, why shouldn't he be pushed this early in his run in WWE?
@TurdFergusonThe2nd1 Okay. they've been wrestling for 6 yrs. Do you think guys like Austin, Benoit, Guerrero, JBL were wrestling for only 6 yrs before they got their title? Ican understand Rock n Brock getting their titles in under two yrs. Who cares if Del Rio has wrestled for a decade. Who's heard of him before entering the world of professional wrestling? When Rock became WWE champ for the first time, he had already had the appeal, respect, plus he conquered the IC title category...
@TurdFergusonThe2nd1 ...not to mention during his IC title run he was already selling out all merchandise moreso than the the guys in the main event picture at that time. Sheamus, Barrett and Del Rio haven't even competed in the IC title category. Look at Sheamus now. Former WWE champ, King of the Ring and now jobbing, Jack Swagger former World Champ and he's a mid-carder. I just think they need to keep it traditional and have guys work their way up like back 2005 and all the yrs prior.
@macnastee I see what you're saying, I know WWE is pushing people way too fast these days, but age is a huge factor. Not only have Sheamus and Del Rio have at least wrestled for 6 years, but they're around Cena and Orton's age, the top faces of the company. The creative team is afraid if they don't push them now, they'll have nothing for them in the future, and they'll be wished well in their future endeavors.
ok, which genius hired the miz in the first place?
I guess wwe might as well hire a bunch of has been, washed up reality TV stars, and slap him with the wwe championship or world title...*facepalm*
theinfamousmrsleep 1 day ago
i love the miz!
jonile369 1 day ago
When he took that belt of sell out Orton i was as happy as a pig in Sh*t
nhoj084eva 2 weeks ago
@nhoj084eva
How is he a sell out?
AmericanNohbuddy 2 weeks ago
I love how there is no reaction in the crowd when he won.
BrianTheDominator 3 weeks ago
JBL is terrible lol
rocker316ify 1 month ago
@rocker316ify I like how he commented, and he told things how they were.
TheSancretor 1 month ago
@TheSancretor Yeah he was a great commentator but bad wrestler.
rocker316ify 1 month ago
@rocker316ify He was a bit sloppy, but he was a good heel and I liked his personality.
TheSancretor 1 month ago
@TheSancretor Yeah he was a great heel and personality but a shitty ass wrestler.
rocker316ify 1 month ago
@rocker316ify No he wasn't shitty. Waaay better than the Miz.
num1Jaysta 1 month ago
@num1Jaysta At least The Miz wrestles sober unlike this Drunk Cowboy lol
rocker316ify 1 month ago
@rocker316ify Both he and the Miz are good heels. For me, JBL was more fun to watch, but the Miz does seem to have more technical wrestling talent, in the department of throws. I do find his matches a bit boring though.
TheSancretor 1 month ago
@TheSancretor Well as far as The Miz goes it all depends on who his matches are with 4 sure.
rocker316ify 1 month ago
@rocker316ify The Miz and John Cena are the terrible ones!
JNZ1991 2 weeks ago
@JNZ1991 You're halfway right there brother.
rocker316ify 2 weeks ago
JBL is great. I wish he still commentated. He's a bit more intelligible than Booker.
TheSancretor 1 month ago
@TheSancretor a bit? lol
chavkill1 1 month ago
JBL vs The Miz Wrestlemania 28
gettinglost65 1 month ago
the only person i like that is still in the wwe is randy orton.....
IKICASH 2 months ago
The Miz just does not have the look, the acting ability, or the wrestling skills of a superstar! People say he's great on the mic, when in fact, he sucks! Generic character, Generic catch phrases, His facial expressions look goofy, and so many other things too numerous to write down!
Pokerstiend 2 months ago
Fact of the matter is this, bro! I've been a wrestling fan for a long time. I've met Sycho Sid in a Florida restaurant, and the man they call Vader actually came to my school to sign autographs long ago. I know how wrestling work I know that you are just one of many fans that want wrestling to return to what it was just 10+ years ago, and I'm not fighting that. I also can why you wouldn't want a superhero type figure to be forced down your throat....Cont.
troma333 2 months ago
I don't respect chumps that have to win the WWE title via Money in the bank, having the title change hands every month makes it shit, but still, even with out money in the bank John Cena(who is worse then Miz and Vannessa Del Rio)still manages to get his title shot over and over again
KAZ3SHINI 3 months ago
So to be wwe champion u hve to appear on a season of the real world?
johnnypolo9000 3 months ago
Jbl >>>>>>>>>>>> the miz
Theawesome1rumiz 3 months ago
Yea Miz definitely wanted to win the title since he got in the WWE. I nearly cried with him watching him win Money In the Bank and then win the title. It was nice to see someone's "boy hood dream" actually fulfilled in today's day and age of professional wrestling.
jonjon535353 3 months ago
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condorhunter007 3 months ago 9
@condorhunter007 trust me i hated the miz to but miz has morphed into sumthing good hes not what he used to be not even close hes improved TONS!
JarrodDrover123 3 months ago 28
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@condorhunter007 At that point, I would have said You don't know what you're missing
ExtremeRulez13 2 months ago
@condorhunter007 yeah same man i stopped just after the dx mcmahon feud when he was the host of smackdown and a complete joke but now hes the best in the wwe
and im glad he won this and hopefully he does it again
accies4life 2 months ago
@condorhunter007 That's harder to understand than Booker T's commentary.
AzTheSpaz 2 months ago
@condorhunter007 lol that makes no sense
RokoLokoful 1 week ago
For real. Maybe it's also because most of the WWE roster is to concerned with being famous instead of fulfilling the "boy hood dream".
jrosario022 3 months ago
you know what i'm not a big miz fan and im not a fan of him being wwe champ but i like his reaction to winning you dont see ppl getting that excited about winning any title anymore
wonderwomenANYOTTA 3 months ago
LMFAO XD
Crashism24 4 months ago
the end was hilarious
Vampirvork 4 months ago
LOL this was hilarious!
UltimateShadow10 4 months ago
LMFAO
jillfan1 5 months ago
Miz may have good mic skills, but he in no way should be in the main event. His run with the WWE Title was horrible, with or with out Alex Riley being there.
AJ36sXe 5 months ago
i died at "I hope your Christmas is terrible"
KandiClark123 6 months ago
@KandiClark123 rip
tommy444able 5 months ago
The WWE title used to mean a lot.
matrix4022 6 months ago
Look at Riley jump, lol. 0:02
sbp80b 6 months ago
Ha ha
DJW676 6 months ago
The miz is a dork, no comparison to the legends of wrestling..his a second rate jobber
Pumpalevu 6 months ago
harsh
thegoodboysize1 7 months ago
Dream match: The Miz vs Brock Lesnar in a five star classic wrestling matchup.
21richkid 7 months ago
@21richkid WTF? most random fucking match ever 5 star classic? my ass that would never be a classic
THEREALDEALDUDE1 6 months ago
Hope u have a bad christmas lmao
WWECmPunk1000 7 months ago
well consider he was still wwe champion on christmas u would say his christmas was pretty good
devindaboss45 7 months ago
@incrementalgrowth No no, these 19 people were all accounts made by Michael Cole, just to come here and dislike the video.
YouKnowIttYT 7 months ago
miz was fighting the ring at the end lawl
TheIamlegend71 7 months ago
FUCK YOU JBL
TheHunter7 7 months ago
OMG HOW THE FUCK DOES THE MIZ HAVE FANS???!! THE GUY COULDNT FIGHT HIS WAY OUT OF A PAPER BAG
sweetsap91 7 months ago
miz is the best wwe champ ever he should still be champ
stupidmonkey84 8 months ago
@stupidmonkey84 .............
ClarkRandomness 7 months ago
I really hate what wrestling has become. It's a pure shame that a new generation of fans have to put up with this shit week in and week out. The WWE is basically saying not only to wrestlers around the globe but to fans that all you have to do, is talk in a mic & you'll be considered a good wrestler. Not saying it's bad to have mic skills...but mic skills should NOT be solely based on what makes a good wrestler. IMO it's 50% in-ring ability. 50% mic skills. That's what makes a good wrestler.
rlp8907 8 months ago
@rlp8907 dude mic skills have all ways counted more than wrestling ability, did you not watch during the attiude era? Where stone cold and the rock the best wrestlers in the locker room? No
Where they the best on the mic and the most charismatic therefore winning loads of titles and catapulted to legendary status? Yes
spazrulzworld 8 months ago 59
@spazrulzworld I can agree to most of this but let me ask you this. What parts of the attitude era did YOU watch? The wrestling or the mic skills? Now I'm not trying praise rock and austin for everything they did in the attitude era but austin and rock were great wrestlers. If you think for one minute that miz could hold a candle to these guys, then that's when your dead wrong. Now I'm trying my best not to bash miz but this is the best way I can sum him up: Good mic skills. Shitty wrestler.
rlp8907 7 months ago
@spazrulzworld Can you prove they weren't the best? o.O
lilmijo619 7 months ago
@lilmijo619 can you prove that they were the best?
unitedkid1902 7 months ago
@unitedkid1902 Yeah ask anyone. Boom there you go later
lilmijo619 7 months ago
@lilmijo619 i can ask as many people as i want. its still no proof. its about every persons own opinion and they werent the best wrestlers but they were the best entertainers.
unitedkid1902 7 months ago
@unitedkid1902 whatever helps you sleep at night
lilmijo619 7 months ago
@lilmijo619 hahahahahahaha. classic reaction of someone who knows theyre gonna lose an argument. lol.
unitedkid1902 7 months ago
@lilmijo619 thats not a way to prove it either cuz if u asked me i wouldnt say they were the best, far from it actually.
mattroberts53 7 months ago
@spazrulzworld actual the rock was a very well decent wrestler. He had the speed, strength and technique
ChristmasCreature 6 months ago
@ChristmasCreature and awesomeness
ssjgoruto 6 months ago
@ssjgoruto agreed.
ChristmasCreature 6 months ago
@ChristmasCreature the rock was very funny and entertaining to watch
ssjgoruto 6 months ago
@spazrulzworld But still you can't say both of them didn't have some cool moves, especially The Rock!
Mate01987 6 months ago
@spazrulzworld You, sir, are the epitome of a bad wrestling fan. You say mic skills have always counted more than wrestling ability, and then you go back a decade!? The Attitude Era was not the start of the business and it wasn't even the best period in the business, just the most profitable.
Wrestling ability will always win out because, as Verne Gagne would say, "the marquee says 'WRESTLING.'" If you think otherwise, you should probably go watch something else.
linesinaconversation 5 months ago 18
@linesinaconversation First of all, thanks for calling me sir. Though I was just saying that The Rock and Austin got so popular because of there mic skills and charisma and not as much for there wrestliong ability and they are widely regarded as some of the best wrestlers to step in to the ring. Thats why i'm saying that if you have a less ability to talk even though you can wrestle on the biggest stage, often you will not become big.
spazrulzworld 5 months ago
@linesinaconversation I agree with your statement on a whole that wrestling ability should always win out but in the current state of WWE that's not the case. I even agree when you say the Attitude era was the most profitable, but I respectfully disagree that it wasn't the best period in WWE. I think a lot of traditional pro wrestling fans would agree that it was. It even peaked if you ask me. At the same time, it depends when that person started watching wresling too.
macnastee 5 months ago
@macnastee I began watching in 1995 and while 1997 was a fantastic year for intrigue and innovation and 2000 was excellent also, a lot of the stuff from 98-99 is not all that great in retrospect, imo. I believe 2002-2004 was far more interesting. And I am not the only one who feels this way.
But there is and always will be something to hold interest and looking at the current product with disdain and whining about how awful Cena is (which he isn't, for the record) is a waste of time and energy.
linesinaconversation 5 months ago
@linesinaconversation I started watching back in the 80s and it has gotten progressively better to when you started watching it.I definitely agree with about 2002-04. I'll even go back to 2000-04. The thing about 98-99 was the watchability and enjoyment factor, a turning point in pro wrestling(Austin Rock, HHH etc.). 2000 because because of the increased in ring prestige with Benoit, Eddie G., Saturn, Malenko, Angle and Y2J. Perfect balance btw storyline n great wrestling. After 2005 it went DH
macnastee 5 months ago
@linesinaconversation I agree with you....except when you say the Attitude Era wasn't the best period in the business. It was the best period for a number of reasons. Because the WWE started crossing lines and getting more raunchier and because there were competitions with WCW and ECW. It was a great time to be a wrestling fan.
bjbawesome 2 months ago
@bjbawesome It's the best period in your opinion. Not everyone loves the attitude era. I grew up with the likes of hogan, savage, piper ect and that will be my favourite period because it brings back childhood memories. I lived through the attitude era and was older enough to realize what was going on and like many many people at that time i hated it. Attitude era truely shit on all that was wrestling and although it gained many casual fans, many hardcore fans back then hated it.
imaheymanguy 2 months ago
@imaheymanguy well back then they were limited to what they could do, but I get what you are saying. We both are using our opinions, but statistics will show the best period in wrestling history would be during the Monday Night Wars.......I stopped watching around 2001 or 2002....I wasn't alive during the Golden Era, but I have watched matches and enjoyed them. I just liked the Attitude Era more.
bjbawesome 2 months ago
@linesinaconversation I personally think it needs to be the perfect combination of the two. If you are an amazing wrestler but are absolutely boring on the mic, I most likely don't want to see you(Or at least don't talk at all). At the same time, If someone is amazing on the mic but horrible in the ring, the best job they should have is a manager or something.
ThatIndianGuy7116 4 weeks ago
@linesinaconversation
You're a dumbass. People care about personality and charisma, which is why some of the worst wrestlers are top draws (see Hogan). I'd take a great worker over a great wrestler any day.
AmericanNohbuddy 2 weeks ago
@linesinaconversation god that guy sounds like a fucking idiot hasnt he ever heard of bret hart or chris benoit
8141933 2 weeks ago
@linesinaconversation well said
pipebomb182 2 weeks ago
@spazrulzworld dude you have know Idea what your talking about.
Stone cold and the Rock's wrestlemania 17 match was gold
the rock and stone colds match were awesome.
Foley,Austin,HBK,HHH Were all great on the were on the mic but all backed it up in the ring
Miz is average on the mic and horrible in the Ring
HolyMafiaLeader 4 months ago
@HolyMafiaLeader Dude, read my comment properly. I said Mic ability has counted More than ring ability, no doubt rock and stone cold were good wrestlers but where they the best out the AE roster? Fuck no. What I mean is that yes you need to be able to pull off a top match but your charisma is worth much more than that in WWE. Besides, Miz has been performing much better in the ring now a days and can only improve.
spazrulzworld 4 months ago
@spazrulzworld That is true but the probelm is that miz isn't good enough on the mic or the ring
to justify being a former champ.his promos are sorta....eh.
There are other wrestlers that are better that are better on the mic and in promo.
If WWE Still hired Elijah burke (The Pope) the miz wouldn't stand a chance in mic skills
plus Morrison cut way better promo and mics skill.
HolyMafiaLeader 4 months ago
I hope he has a shitty christmas.
psycobillysutter 8 months ago
wow miz has a standing ovvation
jmaster779 8 months ago
the Miz sucks but thank god he is no longer champion , well ok cena is no better they should make a match cena vs r-truth vs john morrison and one of them should win
Hanraths 8 months ago
@Hanraths Happened at Elimination Chamber and 3 other wrestlers.
MrFtwNoob 8 months ago
miz is wwe champion? this is how pathetic and low the wwe has become.....its a joke PERIOD......He is holding the belt, that Bret and HBK had.....and guys like RVD or Mr.Perfect never had??? gosh one pathetic joke!!!
muratshawn 9 months ago
@muratshawn RVD was WWE champion... The Miz is in the top 5 best heels of the last 10 years.
banjobenjo 9 months ago
@banjobenjo you're an idiot lmao
anthony77343 8 months ago
@muratshawn I cant believe you just put RVD in the same pool as HBK, Bret and Mr. Perfect
KaguyaShenku0 8 months ago
@KaguyaShenku0 well, I think I made it even fair....RVD is super underrated and was held back by wwe politics.....
I am sorry, YOUR wwe has actually made it worst....they made the miz wwe champ, something HBK used to hold and Bret Hart.....the biggest joke in wrestling history, besides the biggest WM scandal ever,when Cena beat HBK at wrestlemania 23, that was the biggest shame,scandal and joke in wrestling history.....sorry, rvd may not be in the same status,as hbk and bret...but he miz? pls
muratshawn 8 months ago 2
@muratshawn MY WWE? Ive been watching since a few months after Undertaker debuted and its hard for me to take anything you say seriously when you say the Cena/Michaels match was any kind of scandal let alone the biggest ever when especially the same man in that match (Shawn) was truly involved in the biggest scandal in the Montreal Screw Job
KaguyaShenku0 8 months ago
@muratshawn
look, i have been a wwe fan since 1990 right around wrestlmania 6.....with scandal i meant, a joke, how a guy like cena could "beat" hbk at a wrestlemania main event....i mean seriously,that was the biggest joke in wrestling....u didnt have to bring up the screw job now do you? ur not a candian are u? lol look, i dont wanna fight nor argue....i guess u get my point and i get yours....I just think wwe has changed so much,that anyone these days can wear the belt...its a shame
muratshawn 8 months ago 33
@muratshawn You are 100% correct. I still see some hope for a few WWE stars though when I do watch. Not the same though =/. I used to fucking love watching wcw and raw
Carnius797 8 months ago
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@muratshawn You are 100% correct. I still see some hope for a few WWE stars though when I do watch. Not the same though =/. I used to fucking love watching wcw and raw
Carnius797 8 months ago
@muratshawn I stopped watching WWE for a long time after HBK "lost" to Cena at WrestleMania. I do not understand why so many people in that company want to put Cena over. I want CM Punk to bury him so bad, he has to turn heel and tell the fans they turned on him for Punk ala Bret Hart towards Stone Cold in the beginning of the Attitude Era.
SS4Moku 6 months ago
@SS4Moku I feel you on that one, raw last night punk chants the whole time while he bashed cena lol the face of the wwe
theking8701 6 months ago
@muratshawn not just anyone. You have to be a big muscly actor is what you have to be.
ERiiK98 6 months ago
@muratshawn why did you reply to your self?
wastelander502 6 months ago
@wastelander502 lol sorry didnt mean to :)
muratshawn 6 months ago
@muratshawn thats why the u.s tittle is the most prestigst tittle
y2taner 6 months ago
@muratshawn I agree. Its a shame and a joke
macnastee 5 months ago
@muratshawn That whole thing you wrote there is a adorable.
PH1LLYBO1321 5 months ago
@muratshawn I totally agree with you, nowadays Sheamus is a two-time WWE Champion... Alberto Del Rio (copycat of JBL) 2 time WWE champion... Miz (wtf?) former WWE Champion... How that happened? Ask Vince...
And I'm tired of watch WWE waste talent of old school wrestlers like Christian and big wrestlers now and for the future like CM Punk... I wish CM Punk had never comeback and kept the WWE Title to himself. Maybe Vince would wake up!
Daniel Bryan, "future" of Smackdown? PLEASE, what a joke...
nogard3399 3 months ago
@muratshawn I'm not a Cena fan but Cena "beating" HBK at mania was Shawn Michaels putting him over. HBK had nothing else to prove and he wanted to help out Cena's career.
SinisterSnake95 3 months ago
@muratshawn Because it hasn't always been like that, right? Maybe the truth is that wrestling hasn't changed, but you have? Maybe the 31 people that thumbed up your comment also miss that nostalgic feeling of wrestling when they first started watching it?
It's you and the 31 people that thumbed up your comment (who probably chant "Cena Sucks") that make me sick, because wrestling is more for younger kids, and all the millions of over grown adults who hate on wrestling now are just sad.
troma333 3 months ago
@troma333 CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS...feel sicker yet? CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS how about now? YOU ARE RETARDED, Wrestling is for everyone, adults don't hate on wrestling you idiotic 5 year old, we just don't accept when the writers cram a superman face down our throats week after week, we cheer who we cheer for, for you to have the audacity to claim that hating Cena is hating wrestling...CENA SUCKS CENA SUCKS...feel sicker
KAZ3SHINI 3 months ago
@KAZ3SHINI I think you just proved my point about how shitty you anti-cena fans are...
Wrestling is more for kids, yet here you are taking it so seriously as to write what you wrote...
troma333 3 months ago
@troma333 wrestling was once aimed towards 18-35 year olds which the wrestler cm punk is trying to get it back too.
JarrodDrover123 3 months ago
@JarrodDrover123 A lot of kids love CM Punk. In fact, he is one of the favorites for kids to cheer for.
troma333 2 months ago
@troma333 I was just poking fun at how you were telling everyone off, and you still insist wrestling is only for kids huh, when I was a kid i went and watched it with my dad, and now that I'm older I watch it with my kids, you REALLY think it's only for kids. I'm not a anti-cena fan you moron, I'm a fan of wrestling as a whole, you're taking this too personal, we arent arguing with you, we're laughing at you, go eat some fruity pebbles, and tell your mom to make me a sammich XD
KAZ3SHINI 2 months ago
@troma333 but really!? Wrestling is for kids, so all the adults in the arena's every night there's an event, there just there chaparoning the kids right? btw which part makes me shitty, the Cena Sucks part? the part where i said you have the audacity to say hating Cena is hating wrestling? was it the part where I said I don't respect chumps that win the WWE title via money in the bank? or where I called Del Rio, Vannessa? which part? lmao which part made you mad bro? u mad? why you mad bro?
KAZ3SHINI 2 months ago
@KAZ3SHINI I'm mad bro. I'm mad at Zach Riyder's gay ass. I'm mad because income taxes suck. I'm mad bro, I really am...
Bro
Cena and Miz are awesome by the way. You aren't mad that they are, are you?
troma333 2 months ago
@troma333 still laughing at you, not with you bro, laughing at you. fans cheer for who they cheer for, when everyone was on the stone cold wagon, chanting Rocky sucks, thats just the business man, i still cheered for my fave when he was the corporate champ heel, when someone cheers on their fave sports team i.e the Boston Red Sox, and booo the Yankees, is it any different? hmmmm? Zack Ryder is hilarious, stupid, but funny, now if he goes up against the Rock, then fuck him too haha still laughing
KAZ3SHINI 2 months ago
@troma333 you understand what I am saying right? When John Cena went to ECW one night stand and the audience was chanting "FUCKYOU" I thought that was fucked up, guy shows up, to put on a show and they crossed the line, but at the same time, John Cena's a big boy he deals with it, the Miz too, the wrestlers wrestle, the fans cheer on who they like, i just don't like Cena, Miz, Del Rio, but your angry at the Rocks fans for booing Cena, saying Cena sucks, he ain't crying about it, why are you?
KAZ3SHINI 2 months ago
@troma333 you ok bro? you need a tissue? you shouldn't take world wrestling entertainment so seriously, to the point where just cause people boo your fave it makes you sad. Both wrestlers and fans play their roles, is john cena your daddy? Is your name Fred? is it? if it is your movie, not my thing but the kids love it. John Cena and the Rock aren't reading these comments, they don't really care, but the booing makes you sad. still laughing XD
KAZ3SHINI 2 months ago
@KAZ3SHINII also remember being a kid and loving Hulk Hogan because I just did. A lot of kids really love John Cena, and what's wrong with that when his message is telling kids to 'never give up' and to 'rise above the hate?
You know, I don't know if you just hate John Cena, or if you just hate what the WWE represents now a days?
I'm not trying to make enemies with you KAZ3SHINI because the direction the WWE is heading is in question. But man did I love Hogan, and I bet a lot of kids love Cena
troma333 2 months ago
@troma333 i don't hate John Cena, one of the nicest guys in the world, i just hate how the WWE title is getting passed around like its the WCW championship, I'm a fan of Champions having a good run, not every other month they get Cena to drop the title then little while later, they're giving it to him again, Ric Flair is a great champion, but 16 time world champion, some of his runs were really short, Bret Hart didn't win the WWE title 16 times, not even close, but he really was awesome
KAZ3SHINI 2 months ago
@KAZ3SHINI You know what they should do? They should turn John Cena into the ultimate powerhouse villain. I mean, here's a guy full of enough steroids to life any wrestler about his head and F.U. him! Yet, why is it that just last night he was getting his ass handing to him by Zach Ryder?
John Cena is like an overpowered Lex Luger and Hulk Hogan combined....all muscle and wrestling moves and gimmicks being done, over and over again...
I'm mot a big fan of Cena myself you know
troma333 2 months ago
@troma333 The Miz is AWESOME however; And The Miz will be next WWE Champion very soon!!!
troma333 2 months ago
@troma333 Cena and The Miz completely suck and are nothing but douchebags and have ruined wrestling. They will never be as good as The Rock or Stone Cold or any other Attitude Era superstar! If you disagree with me then you have serious problems!
JNZ1991 2 weeks ago
@JNZ1991 so i must obviosly have a problem just because i have an opinion?
pipebomb182 2 weeks ago
@pipebomb182 If you think Cena and The Miz are better than The Rock and Stone Cold then you are wrong and do have problems!
JNZ1991 1 week ago 4
@JNZ1991 looks like hardly no wrestler will be, at least not for a long while, :(
GetThisThingCrunk 1 week ago
miz is awsome
JEBEAST 9 months ago
and the downward spiral begins...
mal7achi 9 months ago
i hope ur xmas is terrible?
lol
Sperandio09 9 months ago
@Sperandio09 Well it was a pretty good edit. Miz did win the WWE Championship on Nov. 22nd so Christmas wasn't far away at all.
MattHatter 9 months ago
u all say that the miz isnt main event material. he is the most must see wwe champion in the history of this company
Fidorikocompany 9 months ago
@Fidorikocompany he is the most must boo champ in the history of the entire universe
cheukw1994 9 months ago
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Oh yeah! Well...I'm Muslim!
How you like them apples?
zuko25 9 months ago
better than cena
SadistSerpent 9 months ago
@Mylovekori0 what the fuck are you talking about. Miz deserved it more than anybody whats with christian he worked his ass off for 17 years to be a world champion and you are saying that this idiot deserved it more omg
EnigmaticAssholes 9 months ago
@Dudemiesterr29 hell no.
Mylovekori0 9 months ago
the only way Miz was going to be champ because there is no way he would have ever beaten Randy Orton if Randy was 100% and didn't just finish another match
kcamowje 9 months ago
@Dudemiesterr29 You obviously don't understand simple humour.
ProDragonBall 9 months ago
MIZ you r truely AWWWWESOME!
TheMegaTdog 10 months ago
That's awesome.
HooliganMovement 10 months ago
TheMiZ is Shitttttttttttttttt
TheLegendaryStyle 10 months ago
@TheLegendaryStyle FUK U CENA FAN
dimartim788 10 months ago
The only superstar is WWE more overated than Cena is The Miz. At least Cena can cut a promo.
HOOMV 10 months ago
Cena can barely cut a promo without starting out quiet then GOING INTO RAGE MODE. Miz is one of the best talkers WWE has right now. Cena has had like two or three good promos in the last like 5 years. Miz really draws the heat just from talking. He isn't the greatest in-ring performer, but it gets the job done.
kamma333444 10 months ago
Miz..i hate u! i hope ur xmas is terrable!!
MRZMORRISON16 10 months ago
HALES YES I HAZED EM!
TheFatalFX 10 months ago
apparently JBL , the miz's Christmas was AAAAWWWEEESSSOOOMMMEEE!!!
MultiTriplehfan 10 months ago
ahahahahahah miz i hate u i hope your christmas is terrible
Doumcod4player 10 months ago
God look at the lack of reaction from the crowd when Miz wins the title, I miss the days when the crowd erupted when someone won the world title
boybetterknow45 11 months ago
@boybetterknow45 hes a heel
genda77 10 months ago
@genda77 So your saying that just because Miz is a heel the fans shouldn't pop when a heel wins the belt?
boybetterknow45 10 months ago
@boybetterknow45 yes thats exactly what im saying and did you see all the upset fans?
genda77 10 months ago
@genda77 Even so regardless if Miz is a heel he should get some sort of a reaction, but the crowd is silent. 10 years ago wheather that was triple H, brock lesnar or Hollywood Hogan as heels the crowd would still pop. looks like we'll have to agree to disagree the last thing i wanna do is come on here and troll about the Miz lol
boybetterknow45 10 months ago
Cole said Skull Crushing Fanialy on Miz WTF?!?!?
Mrsspongebow 11 months ago
You should have taken the evil miz girl, put on a cowboy hat and voiced over jbl.
handstoo 11 months ago
The Miz Is overrated, he's as average as cena -.-'
Max1337Samuelsson 11 months ago 2
@Max1337Samuelsson cena's not average
mal7achi 9 months ago
This is who represents the WWE these days....really.....lol
What, they couldn't find Doink the clown or the Patriot?
vancitypoet 11 months ago
@vancitypoet watch a promo kid, he's grown up.
kamo69 11 months ago
booo miz you suck!!!!
hangman720 11 months ago
@JarrodDrover I didn't think you would notice lol and unfortunately you're right :p
Azt3chN9ne 1 year ago
@JarrodDrover ...Miz main evented with Cena in 09...just saying.
Azt3chN9ne 1 year ago
Like Batista said, It's not a 'tough guy' sport anymore. His words: guys are more concerned with how much baby oil, make up to put on. Its pg". WWE've had a history a bad ass 'tough guy' heels in the past i.e. Triple H, Batista, Taker, Rock, Austin, Angle, Benoit JBL etc. The tough guy era ended IMO in 2006, but I still watch it. Another noteWWE superstars seem to be all getting main event pushes in under a year! WTH is that? Sheamus in 2 months, Wade Barrett/Del Rio already in title picture,
macnastee 1 year ago
@macnastee
They were getting pushes because they have been wrestling for at least 6 years. The WWE is for the top professionals. Del Rio has wrestled for a decade, why shouldn't he be pushed this early in his run in WWE?
TurdFergusonThe2nd1 11 months ago
@TurdFergusonThe2nd1 Okay. they've been wrestling for 6 yrs. Do you think guys like Austin, Benoit, Guerrero, JBL were wrestling for only 6 yrs before they got their title? Ican understand Rock n Brock getting their titles in under two yrs. Who cares if Del Rio has wrestled for a decade. Who's heard of him before entering the world of professional wrestling? When Rock became WWE champ for the first time, he had already had the appeal, respect, plus he conquered the IC title category...
macnastee 11 months ago
@TurdFergusonThe2nd1 ...not to mention during his IC title run he was already selling out all merchandise moreso than the the guys in the main event picture at that time. Sheamus, Barrett and Del Rio haven't even competed in the IC title category. Look at Sheamus now. Former WWE champ, King of the Ring and now jobbing, Jack Swagger former World Champ and he's a mid-carder. I just think they need to keep it traditional and have guys work their way up like back 2005 and all the yrs prior.
macnastee 11 months ago
@macnastee I see what you're saying, I know WWE is pushing people way too fast these days, but age is a huge factor. Not only have Sheamus and Del Rio have at least wrestled for 6 years, but they're around Cena and Orton's age, the top faces of the company. The creative team is afraid if they don't push them now, they'll have nothing for them in the future, and they'll be wished well in their future endeavors.
TurdFergusonThe2nd1 11 months ago