I found it harder to do this on the slim. i don't have alot of room to press the heatsinks. Fan speeds were about the same and i can't really check the temperature now. doesn anyone know how can i check it?
Question: After I reapply the thermal paste to my PS3. Do I have to wait a few mins or a day before I can turn my PS3 on and use it? Or after I reapply it, I can just turn it on and start playing games on it?
i just got my refurb original 60Gb back from sony for the 3rd time sins 2007, the first thing i did now is replacing the thermal paste the way on this vid :) now i will do this method every 6 months to keep it alive for ever
i did the ylod fix but after a few days i get the flashing red lights. I spread it all over in a thin layer and had a bit overhanging.....but sony did a sloppier job too because they had crusting compound on the actual motherboard.
@DesecratedReaper Home YLOD repair is always temporary. Find someone who does an actual REBALL repair and you'll have a permanent fix. Sony blobs on enough compound so they just need to press the heat sink against the motherboard to get 100% coverage. They must get a good rate on compound. :)
Many people show us the wrong way by puting to much of that shit on the cpu! one time i almost burn my ps3 system with that.The guy in the store that i have bought arctic silver was tell me to do exactly what you show us here dude thanks i will definately make it this time and hopefuly my console will stop screaming from the heat spread.
cold heat paste will only spread so much with the cold heat seek. once the heat start the paste will start to spread more with the heat sink pressure. the most important thing is not to have any heat paste over hanging the processors this will not help with transfer of heat and just heats up the area. more pressure also important as this increases contact which helps with heat transfer. you can do it easy with the ps3 but be careful as you can rip the threads off heat sink clamps.
@sasrob28 1) yes, you can gently warm the surface of the chips and heat sink with a hair dryer (just a few seconds) to help the compound spread more easily. 2) yes, DO NOT overtighten the heat sink spring screws. They have flat ends, so when they bottom out STOP TURNING.
Dear god. An actual correct application of thermal paste...on youtube? I tip my hat to you. SOOOOOOOOO many bad videos...leave it to a PS3 video to do it correctly.
Did you ever experience a PS3 getting YLOD after a repaste (assuming that PS3 never have YLOD before)?
My 60GB PS3 eventually hits the 3rd fan level but never reaches the Max speed. Not sure if I should risk a repaste when it's running pretty good at the moment.
@facemischief YLOD is in your near future if you don't repaste. Might be anyway. If it were my machine, I'd repaste. Gently pull the board away from the heat sink and you shouldn't have any problem.
@pipon15 also depends how dusty the inside gets too...I change mine out about every 1year and every 3-4 months for a quick clean.....remove any surface dust....never that much...but then again I'm very anal about maintenance...
A big point to put emphasis on. Make sure you apply EVEN pressure on the processor/RSX. Put your fingers directly on the middle or on the 4 corners and apply pressure. This ensures even distribution
I'm making another comment to just to say my 4+ year old PS3 is still going strong because of this technique....I run my machine pretty hard 4-5 days a week...streaming movies,playing games and sometimes I will let it Fold @home....maintenance!maintenance! is the key to survival of anything electronic/mechanical....
Hey, in your 7-video tutorial you separated the motherboard from the metal thing, whatever it is called, but in this video you didn't... So which method is better? And once I get a "decent spread" of the thermal paste, should I remove the paste and do the same thing to get a "decent spread" again or can I immediately put the heat sink (sync?) back on? Not sure if you understand the second question... :S
@GTAfear Leave the metal shield off if you're using the spread method, because the shield might get in the way. If you want to check the spread you'll need to clean and repaste again. You're trying to avoid air bubbles.
Yo thanks for this video man! After playing my ps3 for a few hours the loud fan kicks in, then the PS3 starts to cool down like it's supposed to. Before, my ps3 just sounded like a vacuum cleaner lol.
No wonder my PS3 fan was so loud. I'm guessing it was doing that because it wasn't contacting the heatsinks properly. About to try. It really is a smart idea taking the fan off and doing it your self, you makes sure it makes contact.
So my ps3 got the ylod and i heat the cpu and the gpu with a heat gun and i let cool down and i put artic silver just like in this video except i use a lil more artic silver and my ps3 works n it does not get loud at all like it use to it is very quite now so im assuming this techique works the best cause i tried spreading it and my ps3 fan went loud but wen i did it like the video it is super quite
@casio1987vd :) In 2010, Arctic Silver told us to use the spread technique. But this summer, they were MUCH more familiar with the PS3 heat sink... and told me to recommend the "pea method".
@casio1987vd No. Removing the heat spreader risks damaging the GPU. And when reflowing/reballing if your heat profile is correct, you can properly reflow without removing the spreader.
I've actually read some posts and saw some photos where the heatspreader was removed and where the paste was redone. How can the gpu be damaged in your points of view? All I can think of if the chip itself is glued on the spreader, which I honestly doubt.
What I think is that they also used the same paste underneath the heatspreader, which means this also need to be replaced to get the optimum result. I've did the same on a gpu chip on an old laptop and it worked fine.
@casio1987vd 4 RAM chips are epoxied to the heat spreader. Remove it if you want. If you damage it, I warned you. Amateurs think they need to remove it, they need proper reflow/reball training.
Yes, I know. But I wasn't referring to actually removing the epoxy resin, but rather to REapply the paste on it, as the paste Sony used seems the same as on the heatspreader itself.
This has nothing to do with the solder joints on the back of the ic.
Rather, I would 1) reball the gpu, 2) reapply paste on the chips underneath the heatspreader and 3) reapply paste on top of the heatspreader. This seems to be the most efficient way to prevent high temps imho.
@casio1987vd Sony doesn't make the GPU, so the paste under the heat spreader isn't the same. You're not using the right terminology. You're not going to reball anything.
As an addition to my last reply. I've discovered that the thermal paste on top of the chips is actually thermal adhesive. You might want to reapply with artic adhesive paste for better temps. No one does seem to have statistics to compare for, but I doubt the one Sony uses is any better than the Artic paste.
I'm still wondering though why you compare reflowing / reballing with paste, as those do not relate to eachother (reflow = bandaid, reball = cure, paste = prevent) ;-)
But you can still use the paste on all of those chips, right? Its not like it would be bad if you just do it like in your preparation video where use spread the paste all over the chips.
Also.. how did you do the reflow? Any video on that? Did you use a heat gun like in all those other videos or did you actually replace all of those ball things on the chips?
@takashy87 1) Arctic Silver now recommends the "squish" method, and that's what Sony did at the factory 5 years ago when manufacturing PS3s. 2) There is no reflow here. This is a PREVENTION video.
@fixmyplaystation: I know.. I meant in general. Have you done reflows and how? Do you have videos on that? Or do you just reball broken ps3's? I'm just curious.. :)
You can do this with the pea method. Make sure you apply the right amount and almost whole the heatspreader's surface is covered. Most critical part, as 'fixmyplaystation' has mentioned is the middle (which is the core).
Never use the spreadmethod, as this can create air bubbles, which can make a HUGE difference in temp measurements (sometimes even more than 20*C on a quadcore fully stressed).
Next time I clean my PS3 I will up load a video of how the paste looks after say couple of months....last few times it was perfectly spread across both heat sinks
@fixmyplaystation Ahh I see, sorry be bother you again. But I could simply do that buy re-heating the GPU of CPU with a heat gun again, from what I've seen on some vids, right?
@fixmyplaystation Ahh I see, well I hope it works for the time being and that I've seen this video before hand =\. But thanks a lot very informative video as well.
I just fixed my old 60gb but i think i put too much on since the fans get somewhat loud but hot air is still coming out the back. I don't think the thermostat is dead since it hasn't crashed while doing.
done the thermal paste fan not noisy now but still shutting down. going to try new hard drive incase this is the problem. do you think thats a good idea.
I just applied new paste a week ago as5 and did it correctly. The fan only made that noise a second and only when it was going really fast. The air coming out back is cool though and it is only on for like 30 mins. Could the thermostat be bad and if so can that harm my system?
My playstation same as yours. It,s not totally dead but shuts down when playing online and red light flash. Would you recommend I try this arctic method. Taken ps3 apart loads of times so that's not a problem
Ok ps3 fan kicked into hair dryer mode and made a grinding or vibrating type sound, it sounded like the fan may have been loose or something and shaking loose while spinning not sure what it was. The ac house wasn't on and was a lil humid but nothing too extreme and I had a fan blowing on ps3 the whole time, could my fan be defective?
@Modiesel1286 We've seen a few units with broken fan blades that bounce around and can eventually jam the fan entirely. You could disassemble the unit (breaking your Sony warranty) and check for lose parts.
No the fan still runs just as loud as b4 but it takes about 10 or so minutes longer to reach. How could I tell if the thermostat is toast. Where's it located?
Sony had the entire chip covered it looked like. I just did like u did in this vid but my amount was jus so slighty more. Like I say ima keep check on air being blown out of back and once it starts to feel hotter than it is, like hot as it was b4 I reapplied paste then I will take it apart and see how the paste held up and just re-do. My ps3 is a Lil more difficult to take apart then the ones in your vids but u still have excellent and informative vids so thanks for that
@Modiesel1286 Try to notice if the fan is running more quietly than before. We've seen a few PS3s whose themostats are fried and they run the fans fast although it's not really hot.
I applied as5 today to my CECHL01 ps3 and used just a hair more longer of a line on mine pressed the motherboard and cage down and wiggled best I could then tightened the brackets. After letting ps3 idle on xmb screen for bout10 mins I loaded a game (uncharted3) and it seemed to delay the fans speed but it still got loud as b4 but only delayed maybe 10 mins to how it was. But after a 3hr gaming session the air blowing did seem noticeably cooler than b4 u think I'm good?
@Modiesel1286 Some say to use a pea-size blob of compound. That's probably how much Sony used at the factory. You can see how much overspill they had when you cleaned the residue before repasting.
Here's an idea, what if I spread the as5 around sides but neglect the middle where the processors are, then do the method used in this vid to keep air bubbles from forming over the processors. Do u think that would be a little more proficient as far as distributing the heat better?
will this show fast results? will the ps3 not be as loud? will it take time for the paste to kick in? do we turn it on right after apply the new paste? thnx
@fixmyplaystation ok.well i put in arctic silver(spread) and the fan is still as loud.Mabe i should try this.if it has too much paste will it overheat even faster?
@fixmyplaystation thank you sir, i am really pissed off about this machine, although i said i adjusted the heat sink it only lasted for a little while before i overheated again, i then took the heatspreader off the gpu and changed the paste with as5 and it worked great....for about 24 hours then overheating again, it seems like it only gets super loud while playing games, i have netflix and it works fine whithout getting to loud, i have the feeling it has something to do with the gpu
@fixmyplaystation hi, i'm replacing the thermal paste on my ps3 cechL would this method work efficiently? also does taking the ps3 heatsink off multiple times hurt the system?
Sir i recently bought a 80GB PS3 Phat/fat weeks ago and the previous owner says that the unit will got YLOD after a few mins./hours. I tested it and it runs/boots but only about 20-30 mins. I Haven't played a game with it yet or some sort of dryrun because i have no game and have no time to play. Ive been searching for solutions and i found your video.
My question is is replacing the thermal paste will prevent the YLOD on the unit?
I haven't experienced the YLOD of the unit and i have the AS5.
@Nyepfree It's possible that fresh paste will DELAY an eventual total YLOD. The GPU is hanging on by its fingernails. After it fully warms up, it separates from the motherboard. Eventually, you'll need a reball or very strong reflow repair. Call if you have questions.
@MrMark3384 The first videos were made based on Arctic Silver's explicit instructions given to us 3 years ago, when they were only vaguely familiar with PS3s. This video was made the same day that Arctic Silver gave us new advice. They had all sorts of opinions about how AS5 works in the PS3 heatsink, so clearly they have practical experience with it now.
i figured it out! onethe vents on the side and front were dusty, i tried to take it off and succeeded but now i cannot get it back on, the secound thing i did was bend the heat sink because from all the times i took it off it bent a little bit and wasent making good contact, now my ps3 is not AS lound defently noticed a diffrence in sound and its not overheating after mins of play, not once since i put it back together, anyone else having overheating issues should look at their heatsink!
hey thanks for the advice but hear this. the playstation is the 1st 60 gb backwards compatable, since i had it is been loud, a few days agot it started overheating after 5 mins of play, so i took it appart and applyed new paste, it lasted for about 2 hours and started overheating again in the same fashion, i did it again the same, the third time i reballed it and did the paste and it seemed to be a little quieter but it dident last very long so i tried to reapply the paste again, and here we r
hey i have a question, i overkilled my ps3 with thermal paste and made a mess oof the board and my ps3 is constantly overheating, do you know of a way that i can remove thermal paste that seeped under the chip? and also i use dynex silver thermal paste should i apply the same way thanks!
@INS14466 Don't worry about paste under the heat spreader. Clean off all the old Dynex with alcohol, then put a pea-sized dab of Dynex in the middle of the CPU and GPU covers... then simply replace the heatsink. DO NOT overtighten the heatsink screws.
i don't have the YLOD,but something is killing my hard drives.i have a 20 gig but every hard drive dead after 10 min.would this process help with that?
@fixmyplaystation yes,dead three so far.even the new hdd.called sony,was on phone when the hdd died.they said send it in,but can't afford it. i don't have any other ps3 to check the hdd in.just wonderig if this would help?had the system 2 and a half years just started getting bad past 3 weeks,then the hdd died.
@fixmyplaystation i got my ps3 working,i had to clean out dust and reapply thermal paste(was barely any) i used silver compound too.thanks for this vid and the fast responses.
Hi, I followed your 7 step tutorial and it fixed my PS3's overheating issue. One week later, my PS3 is overheating again. I used Arctic Silver but I did not use this method to apply it. Could that be the problem? Or could it be a faulty fan?
@fixmyplaystation Thanks for the reply. I checked the fan and it seems to be blowing out the hot air just fine. I used the same amount of AS5 as you, except I applied it on the edge and spread it across forming a thin even layer. I guess I have to repaste the proper way just to be sure. But, if I repaste and my PS3 is still overheating... what else could be the problem? Could it be the power supply? I'm just curious because my PS3 has been getting really hot in one particular spot on the unit.
Am guessing thats a 60Gb? if its isn't am still sure you know what am talking about! Right? When you took the fan out wasn't there some thermal compound on the heat block? Should I re-apply fresh thermal paste on that heat-block?
Finally some who actually knows what they are doing I called them too...about 2 years ago and have been doing this technique ever since..Thank you for making this video.
@fixmyplaystation I have some confidence because it would be my third time taking apart my ps3. I fixed 1 ps3 myself but it lasted only a week, however this ps3 looks promising for its constantly blowing out searing hot air. I guess I will just wait for the warranty to end. Also what do you think of the re-ball process offered by the several companies?
@thekillerwaldo I didn't even get to 3. My Playstation worked flawlessly for 2 years then it yellow lighted me. I took it to get fixed and walla! Sadly it only worked for 4 months, took it back, and it then only worked for 2 weeks. Now it can no longer be repaired and I still have the same problem. YLOD What the fuck is up? Should I Discard it, or is it in some way salvageable?
do you have to heat up the motherboard with heat gun??
angelrox420 1 day ago
@angelrox420 No.
fixmyplaystation 10 hours ago
So should i use Arctic Silver or Diamond Thermal paste? And does this apple to all type's of thermal paste or just Arctic Silver?
onza120 4 days ago
@onza120 Arctic Silver is the leader.
fixmyplaystation 3 days ago
I found it harder to do this on the slim. i don't have alot of room to press the heatsinks. Fan speeds were about the same and i can't really check the temperature now. doesn anyone know how can i check it?
zey2k 4 days ago
@zey2k On the slim, you press the board against the heat sink. It's easier than the big models.
fixmyplaystation 3 days ago
Question: After I reapply the thermal paste to my PS3. Do I have to wait a few mins or a day before I can turn my PS3 on and use it? Or after I reapply it, I can just turn it on and start playing games on it?
chineboy359 5 days ago in playlist Favorite videos
@chineboy359 Turn it on immediately. No waiting.
fixmyplaystation 5 days ago
i just got my refurb original 60Gb back from sony for the 3rd time sins 2007, the first thing i did now is replacing the thermal paste the way on this vid :) now i will do this method every 6 months to keep it alive for ever
PlaystationTREY 1 week ago
Finnaly someone who actually aply thermal paste the right way -_-"
PlaystationTREY 1 week ago
@PlaystationTREY is that what you did? and did it work?
angelrox420 1 day ago
i did the ylod fix but after a few days i get the flashing red lights. I spread it all over in a thin layer and had a bit overhanging.....but sony did a sloppier job too because they had crusting compound on the actual motherboard.
DesecratedReaper 1 week ago
@DesecratedReaper Home YLOD repair is always temporary. Find someone who does an actual REBALL repair and you'll have a permanent fix. Sony blobs on enough compound so they just need to press the heat sink against the motherboard to get 100% coverage. They must get a good rate on compound. :)
fixmyplaystation 1 week ago
Many people show us the wrong way by puting to much of that shit on the cpu! one time i almost burn my ps3 system with that.The guy in the store that i have bought arctic silver was tell me to do exactly what you show us here dude thanks i will definately make it this time and hopefuly my console will stop screaming from the heat spread.
youtoubakias 2 weeks ago
cold heat paste will only spread so much with the cold heat seek. once the heat start the paste will start to spread more with the heat sink pressure. the most important thing is not to have any heat paste over hanging the processors this will not help with transfer of heat and just heats up the area. more pressure also important as this increases contact which helps with heat transfer. you can do it easy with the ps3 but be careful as you can rip the threads off heat sink clamps.
sasrob28 2 weeks ago
@sasrob28 1) yes, you can gently warm the surface of the chips and heat sink with a hair dryer (just a few seconds) to help the compound spread more easily. 2) yes, DO NOT overtighten the heat sink spring screws. They have flat ends, so when they bottom out STOP TURNING.
fixmyplaystation 2 weeks ago
hello. iI just finished the process today as a preventive measure. can you use the same rule for the artic cooling mx4?. Thanks in advance.
jmichelly 3 weeks ago
@jmichelly Never heard of Arctic Cooling MX4. Sounds like a knock-off of Arctic Silver, which is an American product.
fixmyplaystation 3 weeks ago
@fixmyplaystation isnt this on the squidooo blog that links people to this youtube video?
chineboy359 5 days ago in playlist Favorite videos
@chineboy359 I think someone else wrote a blog post a while back that embedded our video.
fixmyplaystation 5 days ago
thanks for the info best way i see here on ytube thanks for your time
MrGangabong 1 month ago
Dear god. An actual correct application of thermal paste...on youtube? I tip my hat to you. SOOOOOOOOO many bad videos...leave it to a PS3 video to do it correctly.
overclockedamd123 1 month ago
Did you ever experience a PS3 getting YLOD after a repaste (assuming that PS3 never have YLOD before)?
My 60GB PS3 eventually hits the 3rd fan level but never reaches the Max speed. Not sure if I should risk a repaste when it's running pretty good at the moment.
facemischief 1 month ago
@facemischief YLOD is in your near future if you don't repaste. Might be anyway. If it were my machine, I'd repaste. Gently pull the board away from the heat sink and you shouldn't have any problem.
fixmyplaystation 1 month ago
@facemischief yes change it as soon as you can.....or it will soon get the YLOD!!....heat kills electronics....
mrbobdog707 1 month ago
i have a quention after aplying the thermal paste how many year you have to wait to put a new one again
pipon15 1 month ago
@pipon15 Probably every 2 years.
fixmyplaystation 1 month ago
@pipon15 also depends how dusty the inside gets too...I change mine out about every 1year and every 3-4 months for a quick clean.....remove any surface dust....never that much...but then again I'm very anal about maintenance...
mrbobdog707 1 month ago
A big point to put emphasis on. Make sure you apply EVEN pressure on the processor/RSX. Put your fingers directly on the middle or on the 4 corners and apply pressure. This ensures even distribution
Good video, im sure it helped a lot of people.
RavCrossfire 1 month ago
I'm making another comment to just to say my 4+ year old PS3 is still going strong because of this technique....I run my machine pretty hard 4-5 days a week...streaming movies,playing games and sometimes I will let it Fold @home....maintenance!maintenance! is the key to survival of anything electronic/mechanical....
mrbobdog707 1 month ago 2
@mrbobdog707 Thanks for commenting.
fixmyplaystation 1 month ago
which thermal paste is better..?? Artic Silver or IC Diamond???
just want to know because i heard alot about artic silver but i've heard IC diamond is better...
suspectedkiler 1 month ago
@suspectedkiler We use Arctic Silver 5
fixmyplaystation 1 month ago
ps3 has 2 processors ?
dfmodels1 1 month ago
@dfmodels1 yes, cpu and gpu.
fixmyplaystation 1 month ago
One final question, man... I'll be attempting this tomorrow, so I want to be 100% sure, lol.
If I use this method, do I still need to remove the two metal plates as seen in your 3rd video at 3:00? Thanks!
GTAfear 1 month ago
@GTAfear You need to follow the entire video.
fixmyplaystation 1 month ago
Hey, in your 7-video tutorial you separated the motherboard from the metal thing, whatever it is called, but in this video you didn't... So which method is better? And once I get a "decent spread" of the thermal paste, should I remove the paste and do the same thing to get a "decent spread" again or can I immediately put the heat sink (sync?) back on? Not sure if you understand the second question... :S
GTAfear 2 months ago
@GTAfear Leave the metal shield off if you're using the spread method, because the shield might get in the way. If you want to check the spread you'll need to clean and repaste again. You're trying to avoid air bubbles.
fixmyplaystation 2 months ago
Yo thanks for this video man! After playing my ps3 for a few hours the loud fan kicks in, then the PS3 starts to cool down like it's supposed to. Before, my ps3 just sounded like a vacuum cleaner lol.
Cooguy1212 2 months ago
@Cooguy1212 We actually call the fan's 3rd gear, "hair dryer gear".
fixmyplaystation 2 months ago
No wonder my PS3 fan was so loud. I'm guessing it was doing that because it wasn't contacting the heatsinks properly. About to try. It really is a smart idea taking the fan off and doing it your self, you makes sure it makes contact.
Cooguy1212 2 months ago
@Cooguy1212 You cleaned it but it was still running loudly until you removed the fan and redid it?
fixmyplaystation 2 months ago
So my ps3 got the ylod and i heat the cpu and the gpu with a heat gun and i let cool down and i put artic silver just like in this video except i use a lil more artic silver and my ps3 works n it does not get loud at all like it use to it is very quite now so im assuming this techique works the best cause i tried spreading it and my ps3 fan went loud but wen i did it like the video it is super quite
Mike321795 2 months ago
@Mike321795 The CPU should not have been heated.
fixmyplaystation 2 months ago
@fixmyplaystation yeah i know but i wasnt sure which one was the cpu and gpu so i heated both oh well it works now so yeah
Mike321795 2 months ago
I still have ylod? What else could it be? My fans dont turn on neither
kuzhtokin 2 months ago
@kuzhtokin Only the reball repair will fix it permanently. No other possible problems.
fixmyplaystation 2 months ago
Will this fix ylod?
kuzhtokin 2 months ago
@kuzhtokin No, it helps prevent it. Only the "GPU reball" repair is a permanent repair for YLOD.
fixmyplaystation 2 months ago
@kuzhtokin No idea if you'll properly reflow it or not. Can guarantee it won't be permanent.
fixmyplaystation 2 months ago
Finally someone who knows how to apply thermal paste the correct way.
The best method imho is the pea method and one of the worst methods is the spread method. Remember, less = more.
There are so many total ignorant stubborn people thinking that the spreadmethod is the best method, which is NOT.
Do your own research and compare both methods and then tell me what temperature measurement difference you see.
The average joe pc user knew this a decade ago, as well as manufactures.
casio1987vd 3 months ago
@casio1987vd :) In 2010, Arctic Silver told us to use the spread technique. But this summer, they were MUCH more familiar with the PS3 heat sink... and told me to recommend the "pea method".
fixmyplaystation 3 months ago
@fixmyplaystation
Haha, that's funny :-)
Maybe they finally found the extensive statistics ;-)
PS Did you also applied the thermal paste underneath the heatspreader?
casio1987vd 3 months ago
@casio1987vd No. Removing the heat spreader risks damaging the GPU. And when reflowing/reballing if your heat profile is correct, you can properly reflow without removing the spreader.
fixmyplaystation 3 months ago
@fixmyplaystation
I've actually read some posts and saw some photos where the heatspreader was removed and where the paste was redone. How can the gpu be damaged in your points of view? All I can think of if the chip itself is glued on the spreader, which I honestly doubt.
What I think is that they also used the same paste underneath the heatspreader, which means this also need to be replaced to get the optimum result. I've did the same on a gpu chip on an old laptop and it worked fine.
casio1987vd 3 months ago
@casio1987vd 4 RAM chips are epoxied to the heat spreader. Remove it if you want. If you damage it, I warned you. Amateurs think they need to remove it, they need proper reflow/reball training.
fixmyplaystation 3 months ago
@fixmyplaystation
Yes, I know. But I wasn't referring to actually removing the epoxy resin, but rather to REapply the paste on it, as the paste Sony used seems the same as on the heatspreader itself.
This has nothing to do with the solder joints on the back of the ic.
Rather, I would 1) reball the gpu, 2) reapply paste on the chips underneath the heatspreader and 3) reapply paste on top of the heatspreader. This seems to be the most efficient way to prevent high temps imho.
casio1987vd 3 months ago
@casio1987vd Sony doesn't make the GPU, so the paste under the heat spreader isn't the same. You're not using the right terminology. You're not going to reball anything.
fixmyplaystation 3 months ago
@fixmyplaystation
As an addition to my last reply. I've discovered that the thermal paste on top of the chips is actually thermal adhesive. You might want to reapply with artic adhesive paste for better temps. No one does seem to have statistics to compare for, but I doubt the one Sony uses is any better than the Artic paste.
I'm still wondering though why you compare reflowing / reballing with paste, as those do not relate to eachother (reflow = bandaid, reball = cure, paste = prevent) ;-)
casio1987vd 3 months ago
@casio1987vd You're the one confusing terms. Please have a professional repair your unit if you have the YLOD.
fixmyplaystation 3 months ago
i tried this method & got YLOD... stick to spread method trust me, a smooth spread all over the cpu & gpu is much better.
MasterFProductions 3 months ago
@MasterFProductions Sony uses the "squish" method at the factory.
fixmyplaystation 3 months ago
But you can still use the paste on all of those chips, right? Its not like it would be bad if you just do it like in your preparation video where use spread the paste all over the chips.
Also.. how did you do the reflow? Any video on that? Did you use a heat gun like in all those other videos or did you actually replace all of those ball things on the chips?
takashy87 3 months ago
@takashy87 1) Arctic Silver now recommends the "squish" method, and that's what Sony did at the factory 5 years ago when manufacturing PS3s. 2) There is no reflow here. This is a PREVENTION video.
fixmyplaystation 3 months ago
@fixmyplaystation: I know.. I meant in general. Have you done reflows and how? Do you have videos on that? Or do you just reball broken ps3's? I'm just curious.. :)
takashy87 3 months ago
@takashy87 We only recommend reball.
fixmyplaystation 3 months ago
the ps3's gpu has the ram chip on the die.... i like to make sure the whole gpu chip i s covered
salsa2good 3 months ago
@salsa2good
You can do this with the pea method. Make sure you apply the right amount and almost whole the heatspreader's surface is covered. Most critical part, as 'fixmyplaystation' has mentioned is the middle (which is the core).
Never use the spreadmethod, as this can create air bubbles, which can make a HUGE difference in temp measurements (sometimes even more than 20*C on a quadcore fully stressed).
casio1987vd 3 months ago
Next time I clean my PS3 I will up load a video of how the paste looks after say couple of months....last few times it was perfectly spread across both heat sinks
mrbobdog707 3 months ago
WOW, I GO THROUGH ONE TUBE ONE TWO PS3'S. I DIDNT KNOW THIS, THANX
BLUEWATERDOGG 4 months ago
can i use any type of thermal paste?
ZranAhmed 4 months ago
@ZranAhmed Stick with good quality paste. Don't use $3/tube stuff.
fixmyplaystation 4 months ago
What happens if your PS3 already got the YLOD - Can you use this method in order to fix it?
CjayyNSC 4 months ago
@CjayyNSC No, then your GPU must be properly reattached to the motherboard.
fixmyplaystation 4 months ago
@fixmyplaystation Ahh I see, sorry be bother you again. But I could simply do that buy re-heating the GPU of CPU with a heat gun again, from what I've seen on some vids, right?
CjayyNSC 4 months ago
@CjayyNSC That's a temporary fix at best, but yes that's an option.
fixmyplaystation 4 months ago
@fixmyplaystation Ahh I see, well I hope it works for the time being and that I've seen this video before hand =\. But thanks a lot very informative video as well.
CjayyNSC 4 months ago
I just fixed my old 60gb but i think i put too much on since the fans get somewhat loud but hot air is still coming out the back. I don't think the thermostat is dead since it hasn't crashed while doing.
pspking597 4 months ago
done the thermal paste fan not noisy now but still shutting down. going to try new hard drive incase this is the problem. do you think thats a good idea.
pummster1976 4 months ago
@pummster1976 If the PS3 is turning off, the hard drive is irrelevant. Your GPU needs to be reballed and reattached to your motherboard.
fixmyplaystation 4 months ago
Can the bad thermostat hurt or does it just make the fans run faster
Modiesel1286 4 months ago
@Modiesel1286 The system might turn itself off, thinking it's too hot.
fixmyplaystation 4 months ago
I just applied new paste a week ago as5 and did it correctly. The fan only made that noise a second and only when it was going really fast. The air coming out back is cool though and it is only on for like 30 mins. Could the thermostat be bad and if so can that harm my system?
Modiesel1286 4 months ago
@Modiesel1286 Yes, we're seeing more and more PS3s with bad thermostats. Seems that the GPU must be replaced to fix that.
fixmyplaystation 4 months ago
My playstation same as yours. It,s not totally dead but shuts down when playing online and red light flash. Would you recommend I try this arctic method. Taken ps3 apart loads of times so that's not a problem
pummster1976 4 months ago
@pummster1976 You can try replacing the old thermal paste (if it's the original factory paste). Your GPU may be hanging on by its fingernails.
fixmyplaystation 4 months ago
Ok ps3 fan kicked into hair dryer mode and made a grinding or vibrating type sound, it sounded like the fan may have been loose or something and shaking loose while spinning not sure what it was. The ac house wasn't on and was a lil humid but nothing too extreme and I had a fan blowing on ps3 the whole time, could my fan be defective?
Modiesel1286 4 months ago
@Modiesel1286 We've seen a few units with broken fan blades that bounce around and can eventually jam the fan entirely. You could disassemble the unit (breaking your Sony warranty) and check for lose parts.
fixmyplaystation 4 months ago
No the fan still runs just as loud as b4 but it takes about 10 or so minutes longer to reach. How could I tell if the thermostat is toast. Where's it located?
Modiesel1286 4 months ago
@Modiesel1286 Inside the processors. Can't see it.
fixmyplaystation 4 months ago
Sony had the entire chip covered it looked like. I just did like u did in this vid but my amount was jus so slighty more. Like I say ima keep check on air being blown out of back and once it starts to feel hotter than it is, like hot as it was b4 I reapplied paste then I will take it apart and see how the paste held up and just re-do. My ps3 is a Lil more difficult to take apart then the ones in your vids but u still have excellent and informative vids so thanks for that
Modiesel1286 4 months ago
@Modiesel1286 Try to notice if the fan is running more quietly than before. We've seen a few PS3s whose themostats are fried and they run the fans fast although it's not really hot.
fixmyplaystation 4 months ago
I applied as5 today to my CECHL01 ps3 and used just a hair more longer of a line on mine pressed the motherboard and cage down and wiggled best I could then tightened the brackets. After letting ps3 idle on xmb screen for bout10 mins I loaded a game (uncharted3) and it seemed to delay the fans speed but it still got loud as b4 but only delayed maybe 10 mins to how it was. But after a 3hr gaming session the air blowing did seem noticeably cooler than b4 u think I'm good?
Modiesel1286 4 months ago
@Modiesel1286 Some say to use a pea-size blob of compound. That's probably how much Sony used at the factory. You can see how much overspill they had when you cleaned the residue before repasting.
fixmyplaystation 4 months ago
Here's an idea, what if I spread the as5 around sides but neglect the middle where the processors are, then do the method used in this vid to keep air bubbles from forming over the processors. Do u think that would be a little more proficient as far as distributing the heat better?
Modiesel1286 4 months ago
@Modiesel1286 Follow Arctic Silver's directions.
fixmyplaystation 4 months ago
will this show fast results? will the ps3 not be as loud? will it take time for the paste to kick in? do we turn it on right after apply the new paste? thnx
ExodoPics 4 months ago
@ExodoPics Immediate results if you're overheating. Reassemble and use immediately.
fixmyplaystation 4 months ago
@fixmyplaystation ok.well i put in arctic silver(spread) and the fan is still as loud.Mabe i should try this.if it has too much paste will it overheat even faster?
ExodoPics 4 months ago
@ExodoPics don't need too much. If the fan speed increases very quickly, you could have a defective processor (heat sensitive).
fixmyplaystation 4 months ago
@fixmyplaystation what are the results if you put too much tho?
ExodoPics 4 months ago
@ExodoPics Could cause overheating.
fixmyplaystation 4 months ago
so you dont need to heat it? you only heat when it is dead?
ExodoPics 4 months ago
@ExodoPics Right, sort of.
fixmyplaystation 4 months ago
will a hair-dryer???? i'm fixing mine tomorrow
JackH123D 4 months ago
@JackH123D No hair dryer. This is not a repair video.
fixmyplaystation 4 months ago
hey question, where is the heat sensor located on the board?
INS14466 5 months ago
@INS14466 Good question. We think it's a part of the GPU, but not entirely certain at this point.
The power supply seems to have a shut off switch as well, like a hair dryer.
fixmyplaystation 5 months ago
@fixmyplaystation thank you sir, i am really pissed off about this machine, although i said i adjusted the heat sink it only lasted for a little while before i overheated again, i then took the heatspreader off the gpu and changed the paste with as5 and it worked great....for about 24 hours then overheating again, it seems like it only gets super loud while playing games, i have netflix and it works fine whithout getting to loud, i have the feeling it has something to do with the gpu
INS14466 5 months ago
@INS14466 The GPU might need to be reballed - to have the solder that holds it to the motherboard replaced.
fixmyplaystation 5 months ago
@fixmyplaystation hi, i'm replacing the thermal paste on my ps3 cechL would this method work efficiently? also does taking the ps3 heatsink off multiple times hurt the system?
russell664 5 months ago
@russell664 Yes, same method. carefully lift the motherboard away from the heatsink by pulling gently on the right side where the hard drive plug is.
fixmyplaystation 4 months ago
Sir i recently bought a 80GB PS3 Phat/fat weeks ago and the previous owner says that the unit will got YLOD after a few mins./hours. I tested it and it runs/boots but only about 20-30 mins. I Haven't played a game with it yet or some sort of dryrun because i have no game and have no time to play. Ive been searching for solutions and i found your video.
My question is is replacing the thermal paste will prevent the YLOD on the unit?
I haven't experienced the YLOD of the unit and i have the AS5.
Nyepfree 5 months ago
@Nyepfree It's possible that fresh paste will DELAY an eventual total YLOD. The GPU is hanging on by its fingernails. After it fully warms up, it separates from the motherboard. Eventually, you'll need a reball or very strong reflow repair. Call if you have questions.
fixmyplaystation 5 months ago
another question is this method using arctic silver better than the method shown in you prevention videos
MrMark3384 5 months ago
@MrMark3384 The first videos were made based on Arctic Silver's explicit instructions given to us 3 years ago, when they were only vaguely familiar with PS3s. This video was made the same day that Arctic Silver gave us new advice. They had all sorts of opinions about how AS5 works in the PS3 heatsink, so clearly they have practical experience with it now.
fixmyplaystation 5 months ago
i figured it out! onethe vents on the side and front were dusty, i tried to take it off and succeeded but now i cannot get it back on, the secound thing i did was bend the heat sink because from all the times i took it off it bent a little bit and wasent making good contact, now my ps3 is not AS lound defently noticed a diffrence in sound and its not overheating after mins of play, not once since i put it back together, anyone else having overheating issues should look at their heatsink!
INS14466 5 months ago
hey thanks for the advice but hear this. the playstation is the 1st 60 gb backwards compatable, since i had it is been loud, a few days agot it started overheating after 5 mins of play, so i took it appart and applyed new paste, it lasted for about 2 hours and started overheating again in the same fashion, i did it again the same, the third time i reballed it and did the paste and it seemed to be a little quieter but it dident last very long so i tried to reapply the paste again, and here we r
INS14466 5 months ago
hey i have a question, i overkilled my ps3 with thermal paste and made a mess oof the board and my ps3 is constantly overheating, do you know of a way that i can remove thermal paste that seeped under the chip? and also i use dynex silver thermal paste should i apply the same way thanks!
INS14466 5 months ago
@INS14466 Don't worry about paste under the heat spreader. Clean off all the old Dynex with alcohol, then put a pea-sized dab of Dynex in the middle of the CPU and GPU covers... then simply replace the heatsink. DO NOT overtighten the heatsink screws.
fixmyplaystation 5 months ago
@fixmyplaystation okay so i did this and my ps3 runs whithout overheating in 5 mins but is still very loud thanks for the response
INS14466 5 months ago
@INS14466 We've seen a few units that have defective motherboards and the fan always runs loud. Maybe you should reapply the Arctic Silver?
fixmyplaystation 5 months ago
@fixmyplaystation btw the fan dosent start as soon as the unit comes on it may take 2-3 mins intill it is in full gear
INS14466 5 months ago
@INS14466 Yes, but that's too fast.
fixmyplaystation 5 months ago
@INS14466 lol sorry but i wanted to add that when i prop my ps3 in front of air conditioner it is silent
INS14466 5 months ago
@fixmyplaystation sorry never reballed i used a heat gun
INS14466 5 months ago
@INS14466 That's what I thought you meant.
fixmyplaystation 5 months ago
i don't have the YLOD,but something is killing my hard drives.i have a 20 gig but every hard drive dead after 10 min.would this process help with that?
Lazyjay666 5 months ago
@Lazyjay666 Dead, like the new HDDs are no longer functional? Have you tried them in other PS3s? If so, call Sony for assistance.
fixmyplaystation 5 months ago
@fixmyplaystation yes,dead three so far.even the new hdd.called sony,was on phone when the hdd died.they said send it in,but can't afford it. i don't have any other ps3 to check the hdd in.just wonderig if this would help?had the system 2 and a half years just started getting bad past 3 weeks,then the hdd died.
Lazyjay666 5 months ago
@Lazyjay666 I've never seen a PS3 that kills HDDs. You've got a major problem. $99 trade in to Sony is the cheapest solution.
fixmyplaystation 5 months ago
@fixmyplaystation i got my ps3 working,i had to clean out dust and reapply thermal paste(was barely any) i used silver compound too.thanks for this vid and the fast responses.
Lazyjay666 5 months ago
@Lazyjay666 Thanks for watching.
fixmyplaystation 5 months ago
Hi, I followed your 7 step tutorial and it fixed my PS3's overheating issue. One week later, my PS3 is overheating again. I used Arctic Silver but I did not use this method to apply it. Could that be the problem? Or could it be a faulty fan?
theboyinallblack 6 months ago
@theboyinallblack The fan should be fine. Check to be sure you got good coverage with the paste.
fixmyplaystation 6 months ago
@fixmyplaystation Thanks for the reply. I checked the fan and it seems to be blowing out the hot air just fine. I used the same amount of AS5 as you, except I applied it on the edge and spread it across forming a thin even layer. I guess I have to repaste the proper way just to be sure. But, if I repaste and my PS3 is still overheating... what else could be the problem? Could it be the power supply? I'm just curious because my PS3 has been getting really hot in one particular spot on the unit.
theboyinallblack 6 months ago
@theboyinallblack Arctic Silver, Inc doesn not recommend spreading.
fixmyplaystation 6 months ago
noctua has the same thing in their manual for their cpu cooler.
At first I was like what, are they joking. I do full spread now but
I remember doing the rice grain method and it has like same
cpu temperature as the spread. Infact it was a little better.
jetgeo4 6 months ago
@kittens360 i got a repair from sony in 2008 mines is still workin..
cskustoms1 6 months ago
@kittens360 Replacing the thermal paste prevents the YLOD, not fixes it.
At this point, you'll need a full "reball" repair of the solder that holds the GPU to the motherboard in order to get a permanent repair.
fixmyplaystation 6 months ago
Am guessing thats a 60Gb? if its isn't am still sure you know what am talking about! Right? When you took the fan out wasn't there some thermal compound on the heat block? Should I re-apply fresh thermal paste on that heat-block?
Yneto94 7 months ago
@Yneto94 Clean off all old paste. Then repaste.
fixmyplaystation 7 months ago
Finally, the right way. subbed.
dmrlev2004 7 months ago
Very thorough, good video
Intimadater22 7 months ago
Thanks! Any chance you could show a disassembling of a PS3 slim 160 gb so I can reapply the thermal paste? I can't find any videos on this model.
Erinyes25 7 months ago
Finally some who actually knows what they are doing I called them too...about 2 years ago and have been doing this technique ever since..Thank you for making this video.
mrbobdog707 8 months ago 11
this is the method I used and it worked.
AgentCell 9 months ago
where can i get a decnet cheap heat gun???
FootFinger13 9 months ago
Good stuff man! I have been doing the "spread" method and had some get the YLOD again. I will try this to see if results change.
bigshowjoe1226 9 months ago
i needed to know this thanks alot
TheSkylinegts 9 months ago
Awesome I am getting my refurb back sometime this week (3rd one by the way!!!!)
I don't want to deal with the ylod again, so i will do this. Will this application technique keep my refurb from getting the ylod?
thekillerwaldo 9 months ago
@thekillerwaldo It should, but it shouldn't need to be cleaned for a year or 2 after you get it back.
fixmyplaystation 9 months ago
@fixmyplaystation but that is the thing, my 2nd ps3 lasted me a month and that was a refurb. Should I replace the thermal paste in this one?
thekillerwaldo 9 months ago
@thekillerwaldo How long was the warranty on the refurb?
fixmyplaystation 9 months ago
@fixmyplaystation warranty was standard 90 days from Sony. Should I wait the 90 days and re-apply or open it up now?
thekillerwaldo 9 months ago
@thekillerwaldo Certainly don't breat the warranty label during the warranty period. What if something really bad happens and you need to return it?
fixmyplaystation 9 months ago
@fixmyplaystation I have some confidence because it would be my third time taking apart my ps3. I fixed 1 ps3 myself but it lasted only a week, however this ps3 looks promising for its constantly blowing out searing hot air. I guess I will just wait for the warranty to end. Also what do you think of the re-ball process offered by the several companies?
thekillerwaldo 9 months ago
@thekillerwaldo Reball is the only process that CAN be 100% effective. Replacing the old solder is a like-new situation.
fixmyplaystation 9 months ago 4
@thekillerwaldo I didn't even get to 3. My Playstation worked flawlessly for 2 years then it yellow lighted me. I took it to get fixed and walla! Sadly it only worked for 4 months, took it back, and it then only worked for 2 weeks. Now it can no longer be repaired and I still have the same problem. YLOD What the fuck is up? Should I Discard it, or is it in some way salvageable?
ajtemp2000 9 months ago
awsome!
SidekillerZone 9 months ago
@SidekillerZone boy, didn't take long to get comments on this one.
fixmyplaystation 9 months ago