That is the most ignorant thing Ive ever heard. He brought it on himself? He asked a question that the police didnt like so they grabbed him. Free speach means nothing? Welcome to the police state and goodbye to the constitution.
"DONT SPEAK"?? really?? also saying "dont shoot" should not prompt anyone to shoot.. also the video on fox you can clearly hear him say if they let him go he would leave... also a taser is considered a deadly weapon, so why did they tase him when he presented no threat and handcuffed... cops are control freaks and have to much power.. on that note kerry said it was fine and that he would answer the questions.. the disruption didnt begin until the cops got involved..
i agree with everything you said, and the meyer kid did bring it on himself with the ways he handled things, but...i don't agree with you on the don't "tase me" is asking for a tasing....it was just his aggressiveness and attitude/tone, if he calmed down and said don't tase i think he would have avoided that event....HOWEVER, i don't believe what the cops did was right--power went to their heads. the guy didn't do anything to pose and physical danger, just a disturbance.
"I violated the rules of the forums, and was disruptive" "There were rules in place to ensure that the forum was run in an orderly fashion, and I did not follow them"
Legal precedents on limitations of speech set out in Bethel School District No. 403 v. Fraser - May prohibit the use of vulgar language
And Tinker v. Des Moines - Students may express themselves so long as they are not disruptive.
Organizers had ample reason & the right to eject meyer. It was no violation of his rights to do so.
Bethel & Tinker have been cited by the Supreme Court in cases addressing college students so obviously the justices feel they are relevant.
The ACLU or meyer are free to bring a court case if they believe his rights were violated.
I doubt they will, because they know the precedents & at the cases the Supreme Court has declined to hear re: vulgar speech (Robinson v. Montana, for example.)
I kinda get where you're coming from. You manifest your reality, and his high energy and excitement brought an equivalent response in resistance from those around him.
But his passion and excitement should instead be seen as a spotlight, illuminating issues/questions that have been in darkness too long.
if you were in the same situation, you wouldnt have the balls to say anything to a presidential candidate. you would probably bend over and ask for some KY
Dont be a DICK. you probably dont even know what its like to believe in something. You probably dont know what its like to get involved politically in a campus atmosphere. dick.
Ian, ur a fucking dumbass! Ur saying it was right of the police to taser a kid bc he said "Dont tase me"? So, if a girl came up to u and said "Dont rape me" it would be morally acceptable for u to rape her bc u've been prompted to? Jesus, it scares me to think that people this crazy live in the same country I do.
"Ur saying it was right of the police to taser a kid bc he said "Dont tase me"?"
He wasn't tased for anything he said. He was tased for repeated refusal to put his arms behind his back. He was arrested for fighting with cops and yelling for the crowd to help him instead of walking out. He was made to leave for repeatedly breaking rules of the forum (on purpose). The tasing was NOT a punishment for him. It was to get him handcuffed.
"He brought it on himself." It's not about his emotional reaction. It's about the freedom of speech for citizens of this country. It really troubles me to see the people defending the police brutality. It really bothers me. It freaking upsets me. How did we come here? How did we get here?
Police is here to protect us getting paid our tax money. Wow, what an Alice wonderland I live in!
There was no "brutality". He was given AMPLE opportunity to comply and aggressively refused. He asked for what he got.
Freedom of Speech had NOTHING to do with it. They let him ask his question even though he had been kikced out BEFORE that and HE refused to let Kerry answer FORCING his removal. Then he refused to leave, forcing his arrest. Then he refused ot be cuffed, forcing his tasing. He CHOSE for ALL of it to happen. He COULD have listened to Kerry answer his question, but CHOSe not to.
Ian, you're an idiot. Meyer did not bring any such police action on himself! You've got 249 videos uploaded: Dude, you talk too much. "like the Jedis"?! Whatever. Pick up a book, man.
if it was me i would have died because i have a heart problem, what if this kid had a pacemaker or something? he was begging them not to tase him. our corrupt government is always going to use force, sadly. nice vid.
"If he were so scared of being tased, he would have calmed down and stopped flailing around like a freaked out animal."
Exactly! Considering that they tried to deal with him in a non-violent manner for a full minute (not counting the time BEFORE THE VIDEO that he struggled instead of leaving and was told what he did wrong), I don't see how any sane person can say he was treated badly in any way.
"if it was me i would have died because i have a heart problem, what if this kid had a pacemaker or something?"
Then he shouldn't have gotten himself thrown out (TWICE) and he shouldn't have fought police instead of leaving, and he SURE AS HELL should have listedned to one of the MULTIPLE commands to put his hand behind his back so he could be cuffed.
You have some good points, and some not so good points. Telling someone not to shoot does not prompt someone to shoot. You should, imho, formulate your points in a better fashion before you post. But you lost me when you had to bring in the Star Wars.
It was a demonstration, even though he was only one person, and he demonstrated the extent to which we live in a country where police can take whatever measures they feel are necessary. Adam was trying to make a point, and it seems like you missed it.
He wasn't trying to avoid making a point. I'm sure he didn't expect it to go that far, but I'm sure he expected a response when he brought up those issues. It seems his point was that even though a forum is called "open" and "public", people can still be silenced. He probably says "Don't tase me" because he sees the taser in policemen's hands. He says it out loud so that people know what's happening, because everyone was just sitting there doing nothing.
Look, you're missing the point. Once the police started escorting him out, he started protesting because he protested their removing him when they really had no right to do so.
I agree with your message about 'listening' up to a point but SOME of the people SOME police run up against are not inclined to 'talk' or 'listen'. Especially if drugs are involved. Police do need to use some force sometimes, sorry to say it. Perhaps my perspective is different, my brother is a cop and I hear about it first hand.
I just have two words for you man, "FREE SPEACH!!" You have the right to question or critique what happened at the John Kerry speech. However, Meyer had just as much right to ask his questions. What kind of country do we live in anyway? This country is quickly turning out to be a place where asking the tough questions can get you arrested, or worse. They should have let him finish, I'm sure it would have ended much differently.
They had no right to turn the mic off just simply because he was asking questions they didn't like. It proves that Bill of Rights is quickly becoming nothing but a document of empty words. It was outright police brutality. Whether you begged them not to tase or not wouldn't have made any difference you idiot
"Somebody, sometime has got to take a stand and say democracy cannot survive, much less thrive with the level of big corporate and big government interference and intimidation in news," Dan Rather said on CNN's "Larry King Live."
Yeah, he was saying "Don't tase me, don't tase me", roryflynn ... but what was he doing? He was continuing to struggle and resist against the officer's orders. It helps if you open your eyes and actually watch the footage before you attempt to preach.
Yeah he is not very bright...he just tries to come off that way because he's insecure. Imagine living your life grabbing at straws every moment and pretending they're gold. He's harmless though.
Let's boil it down. The guy got tased because he was insistant on asking questions of a political figure. That's the essence. If you think that's right, you're an idiot.
BTW, look up your rights concerning a cop trying to illegally arrest you.
Not sure if you were replying to me or not, but I wasnt really commenting on the Kerry issue. I was commenting on Ian and him always trying to come off as an intellectual. I dont agree at all with what college security did there.
What if a police officer approaches a drunk person or someone that is high and crazy on drugs. You are saying they can just talk to those people? A taser sometimes is the only way to get them down...you need to get in the real world. Talking doesn't always work.
An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in
repelling any other assault and battery." State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260
"Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary." Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306."
Ian, the guy was already in handcuffs and lying face down, with several cops on top of him when they tased him. He was in their control 100% before they tased him. They weren't trying to get him under control by tasing him, he was ALREADY under their control. That's the difference. It's ok to taser someone in order to get them under control, so that an arrest can be made, but to tase them after they are already under control is torture.
He was not in handcuffs yet. The camera angle in the video that I have on my channel clearly shows his other hand on a chair right before he got tased. So your argument that he was 100% in control is false. I have video to prove that he was not cuffed yet before he was tased.
Ok. I know that there is video from the other side of him taken, which I haven't seen. From the one I saw it looked like he was. Still, they began to arrest him for the wrong reason. Once he was resisting, then they had him. People don't resist! He would've won his case if he hadn't done that.
Exactly. I think if he went to court he can file a law suit if he thinks he rights were violated. He can probably still do that btw. But the thing everybody was and still is sensitive about was the fact that he got tasered. They need to know that he got tasered for resisting to be escorted out, and not tasered just for speaking his mind. There's a difference between the two. Thanks for the reply.
When cut mic they trying 2 throw him out not arrest b4 he'ad finish ask 1st Q they try 2 shut him up Thats wrong of cops / as they escort him out & got near door he try 2 pull away from them hard & that when theyd've been justify tase Got him under control b4 tase that where he'as case law: if it neccecary 2 get him under control He got case though he try 2 resist That mean he go down 4 resisting get off on disturbing peace win on being tased imporperly lose on unlawful arrest
Listening to others does make one calm down; it helps to diffuse a hostile situation, pacify turbulent emotions.
Indeed, we of the world need to listen more. Only then might the multitudes begin to truly understand each other. Too often, however, we focus on ourselves, our own emotions, as if WE are ALL that is under the sun. It's called selfishness.
One would be surprised at the understanding he would gain by simply, truly listening.
As a free citizen, we have the right to know what the intentions of police officers are.
Two questions that are very important to always ask if you find yourself in a confrontation with a police officer is "Am I arrested" and "Am I free to go?"
I think you've made great points Ian. This appears to be a stunt and yet those officers, indeed the university, lacked a fully coordinated and focused effort. This should be expected. Hopefully, they do after action reports toreflect on better situation approaches like the Army does.
I'm not condemning them for doing their job with a resisting individual. I do think they could have out smarted this stunt before our theatric media got another fad.
He resisted arrest. The police wanted to take him away, he wouldn't budge. An officer significantly lower in heigh tried to get him to lower his arm, he wouldn't lower it. He became more agitated and aggressive. It's all there on tape, from several different angles. FACT
The reason he was interrupted was because he wasn't using his inside voice. He was just passionate and motivated and have probably been waiting to be heard for a long time. Like how Ian gets when he's in the moment. Though I agree he shouldn't have provoked the police even though they shouldn't have done anything. Shit, he was just being himself, I would have been pissed as well.
Ian, i totally agree that this character brought it upon himself. In fact, I find him quite annoying and an opportunist, just look at his website. Also, apparently he told the cops later that they had done nothing wrong, that they were just doing their job, and, he only acted out whenever there were cameras rolling...
What astounds me about this issue is the people who somehow consider the student's behaviour extreme enough to warrant multiple police officers piling onto him, then Tazering him. You really need to get some perspective, before one day you find yourself in the same position for a lesser 'offence'.
i agree that he brought it on himself to a degree, it would be avoided if he just submited to the police but he shudnt hav to and ther was no need for the police to cut the mic and initiate the struggle if they had let him finish his harmless point. more worrying is the lack of action taken by the bystanders. Ther was no need to taze him he was alredy cuffed on the floor with 4 officers on his back. u can even see one of them smiling about it.
Ian, there are situations in which force is needed for that police officers own protection or for that of others. To say they need to listen to people...I'm not gonna listen to a guy who's waving a gun and shooting at people. He needs to be stopped before he hurts people and if thats by dropping him first, so be it.
each situation an officer faces is different, they need to learn how to handle each situation. Sometimes violence breeds more violence, and communication in a civil manner can defuse things. That's why they have special agents in a hostage situation that can bargain with the criminal.
Your regular cop has no traing in that, they just react like animals. I believe the solution is to train them to be less aggressive and learn the power of speech.
You are not totally off base with some of this. You do seem to live in a world of your own though, for good or bad. The out of focus eye thing, that happens to me too, but I don't usually talk during it, can drive though, my eyes get stuck. It might be a type of seizure actually.
I believe in mind over matter, and lets say that the thought process brought upon the actions or the matter. My question to you is, is it right what they did? Are you not mad about what happened. Our freedom of speech is being eliminated, the government and their puppets are over using force to control us and keep us quiet.
And have you not considered that he screamed "Don't tase me" because he could see the cop preparing to Tazer him? You're a grade 1 idiot sometimes Ian.
THINK about what you're saying Ian. The guy was manhandled out a an auditorium for ASKING QUESTIONS. He didn't "bring it on himself", the Police mad the first move and began bundling him out of the building - with NO explanation as to why. If you're grabbed in the street tomorrow by Police and they try to bundle you into the back of their car, exactly how Peacefully will YOU go?
when you talked about police being more like the jedi and carrying around flashlights i thought you were going to say "light sabers-- when they are invented-- someone should invent light sabers."
Andrew Meyers may have been overzealous, and maybe yes wanted to show the world the truth in the lack of our first amendment, but he did not diserve the force used upon him. I think he was doing an experiment of which he succeeded to prove what he set out to prove.
this is the norm in florida,police brutality is common place, i am glad this happened here. this is a war zone. thanks jimmy carter and castro, and lets not forget the bush mob.this is minor compared to what really happens down here with corrupt government and cops
You're wrong Ian, when in this country has anyone been treated like that. Do you know that three of the cops where suspeneded for doing that to him. That kid did nothing wrong.
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He did do things wrong. He resisted police authority, and according to the legal system, and police jurisdiction, they did what was necessary with a non-compliant person. We pay the police to do their job, they did it, now don't complain.
We pay the police to be civil and arrest criminals and to keep us safe. None of which fit Andrew. He was not a criminal, he was asking questions. Police need to learn how to handle a situation without violence. They are reactive and unstable.
They work for us, they are a civil servant. They are not God or any authoritative figure, they think they are but they are not. They didn't ask him to do anything they manhandled him and used unnecessary forced. They committed the crime.
They told him to get down. They weren't yelling it. They ARE an authority figure, that is their JOB, we pay them for it. If you don't like what they do, you need to advocate for change. They WERE doing their job. I may not like it, you may not, but it is so.
Job description: To serve and protect. What were they protecting against. A young college student with questions. He didn't have a weapon and he didn't poss a threat to anyone. They need to go over their job description and learn work ethics.
OK. They are there to keep order. Police do that as part of their job. They had rules there to enforce. No one can hear what they said or didn't say. They didn't yell. I don't like what happened, but even within that feeling, I understand what police enforcement is about. Try to get past your raw emotions.
Order can be kept with civility, they use excessive force to do so and it is not necessary, not on this occasion. Watch the tape from the beginning the original. Police enforcement in this country is all wrong and power driven.
Power corrupts. Why do you think they tasered him in an easily videotaped public area...were they just THAT mad? It doesn't seem like they were/should have been. Seems like they would only do it when easily hidden?
because they are not to bright. They reacted instead of assessing the situation. He did not warrant the behavior, the men in power brought on. They are in major trouble, they made the school look bad and the police force too. They wont be able to get out of this one.
Hmmmm, maybe, on the not too bright part. I don't know them personally. "The men in power", hard to suppress a grin at that one, but yeah, Fight the Man. Those MEN, in general, argggghhh. If only women ruled the world! Peace out, Anne
No worry. It was just another case of unreasonable demand and disruptive behavior. Personally I thought the guy was rather insulting. He didn't have a "right" to be there and do whatever he pleased. He was forcibly resisting his removal and being placed under restraint. That was probably why he was tasered.
In an ideal world, we'd never have to use tasers and guns and things, and police are tought and are very good (99%of the time) at defusing violence without using them.
Perhaps 7 times out of 10 an angry individual is angry because of something they've not been able to express, so listening to them if they seem to be in a forthcoming mood underneath the anger often disarms the situation.
Great, now my city is not only known for its serial murders, but also stupid college students.
I thought I'd point out that Andrew Meyer is the same guy who stood on the corner of University Ave holding up a sign that said "Harry dies" the day before the 7th book came out. He clearly lives to start crap with other people.
To an extent agree with your position as to why things happen, also many times the subconscious gives you up regarding something that got you thinking on the consequences, there's an adage that says whom owes nothing, fears nothing, the law of reaping what you sow.
I like to think of cops as Peace Officers first and foremost. I tell people I love the cops and that they're fine people and then I get slimed because of the actions of a few really out of line cops. I think they DO teach what you said they should focus on, but it's the personality type that is drawn to positions of authority that perverts the job description and hence, cops get a bad rap.
The simple fact is, they didn't need to USE the tazer. He was a slender college kid and could've been easily dragged out of the room. The exit was near too. What do you think the cops did before tazers? They didn't beat them with night sticks. They just man handled them. Tazing is to account for a needed force. 5+ cops was plenty of force that would've resulted in less pain and publicity. Cops made the wrong choice.
You don't stand in line at Disneyland to go on a ride three times in a row, security will ask you to move along - he should have stayed calm. Andrew was being extremely obnoxious - It's sad because I thought his question was very interesting. Maybe Andrew didn't learn in preschool how to stand in line. It seemed to me like he just wanted the attention.
wow. except for the goofy notion about how this guy's saying the word arrest and tase caused the cops to arrest and tase him, this was almost a sensible video.
wait...i just got to the star wars part. forget what i said earlier.
oh, and i have to disagree...amanda punching ian in the face was a good thing. other than that one time, he's right about it wrong to punch other people.
I agree with you, Ian. I believe all police officers should be required to, at least, minor in psychology(esp abnormal psych). I guess that would also mean requiring college diplomas instead of the current high school diploma requirement.
I don't know about your future police and the Jedi, but I think you got everything else exactly right. The guy wanted to be tased and cops tase way too easily.
questions for ya ian....i heard a statement that 70% of folks in our prisons were in there for victimless crimes. how can you have a crime if there is no victim? why do people get scared when they are driving and obeying all the laws and a cop pulls behind them? how does society view our "protectors and defenders?" is it in our minds? explain
Ian..Check out Gnosticism...it is the root...Greek for knowing....that is the new movement...it is old, but then again, every thing is cyclicar (poor spelling, but what goes around comes around again. History constantly repeats itself).
noworries. we all know what you're saying. If you havn't already, be sure to check out the zeitgeist dot com website to see the whole movie, where gnosticism is mentioned among "other" things.
Yes, I always thought the jedi mind trick was more effective than a tazer or gun, but the real question is whether the jedi mind trick is more effective than a beam of truth. Think about that.
Yeah, he brought it on himself. He started freaking out. He fucked it up. Kerry was actually answering his question too. The police went too far, but that's no surprise.
Great Leader Ian, im disappointed. You take time out of you epic and important life to talk about some prick who got tasered. Sadly, you wont talk about the racist that is going in the south with the Jena 6. Tell me if Im wrong but you havent said a word about racism. So how about you shine some of you words of wisdom on this subject?
He was arrested for inciting a riot. i think he asked a few too many questions but thats not inciting a riot.
they should have been esscorted out. he should have stopped after the second question. but still no reason for 4 fat cops to sit on him then tase him after they had cuff on him
It is such bullshit to tazer someone even for a legitimate reason if there are that many men around and the person is already detained. God forbid Kerry should get passionate about government.. although if anyone who gets passionate about anything gets arrested and tazed in your country I can see why that idea is not popular.
I wonder if the Skull/Bones comment made the cops think of him as, "One of those conspiracy theory nuts..." Up until that statement, it seemed like they were at least trying to humor him. They were all 3 VERY VALID questions I felt. I STILL look forward to Kerry's answer???
Im not sure but if someone was holding a taser against my chest for about 45 even when they got cuffs on me .... well i think i would say dont tase me as well. so you are saying if this guy instead for saying dont tase me said dont shoot me then he forced the cops to shoot him? have you lost your mind?
well you can say what you want you cant taser some thats in in handcuffs. the taser is meant to stop a person that in not in control to allow cops to get handcuffs thus gaining control of the person.
A person on the ground with at least 4 cops on him with cuffs on is no threat to anyone. btw wtf happened to free speech?
I appreciate your views on this Ian. Still unclear to me though: 1.Why were there 5 cops next to the microphone? 2. Why did the Skull & Bones question seem to set them off? 3. I sent you a Youtube message. Please check it out.
I appreciate your viewpoint on this Ian, but I still find it strange that 1st of all there were cops anywhere near the microphone. Security for Mr. Kerry, I understand, but why were there 5 of them RIGHT NEXT TO THE MIC? Also, why did the Skull & Bones question seem to set them off? 3rd, I sent you a message entilted "something to ponder."
The cops were right there because Meyer had created a bit of a scene previous to where those videos pick up, in jumping to the head of the line. Kerry defused that by telling Andrew he would answer his question.
Can I ask wtf you are suppose to "focus" on when you have cops putting their hands on you and physically moving you WITHOUT even asking you to leave?
They manhandled first then claim they were "calming down" the situation.. They ESCALATED the situation. Dont put your hands on people badge or not and expect respect back.. He did nothing wrong to have them "physically remove" him.
just out of curiosity what makes you think I am a "sir".. I mean there are millions of people on youtube.. are you that confident in your telepathic abilities that you come to a conclusion based on one comment?
he had the mic for one question but charged through the first one and asked three. They cut him off in the middle of his third question. I would have liked to hear Kerry's response.
Nicely and intelligently presented as a help for another person. This is Ian at his best. Not tring to be something he isn't. This Ian is calm and intelligent, and I fnd you to be a very real, interesting person. You weren't a'tall hyper! Good luck, Jenny
Ok, I stopped your vid at a minute because I'm unsubscribing. You're basically saying it's ok for them to taze the guy simply because he said not to! I should shoot people I don't like if they ask me not to! If you listen to around the time they turn off the mic, Kerry says, "NO, IT'S ALRIGHT! LET ME ANSWER HIS QUESTION." So how come they didn't PROMPT themselves to stop, and leave the guy alone? He didn't start acting crazy until they were taking his RIGHTS away from him!
Ok, I stopped your vid at a minute because I'm unsubscribing. You're basically saying it's ok for them to taze the guy simply because he said not to! I should shoot people I don't like if they ask me not to! If you listen to around the time they turn off the mic, Kerry says, "NO, IT'S ALRIGHT! LET ME ANSWER HIS QUESTION." So how come they didn't PROMPT themselves to stop, and leave the guy alone? He didn't start acting crazy until they were taking his RIGHTS away from him!
I want to address Ian's Lethal Advice on what to do if someone (other than the police) tries to violate you. . . If you are in a position of being grabbed, yell, SCREAM, "FIRE."
People respond when they hear the word FIRE than the word HELP. Never go quietly when someone invades your space.
Never let them take you from Location A to Location B.
DO NOT leave location A without putting up the fight of your life.
you guys should know that Ian Crossland gets paid to do this...it's part of a propaganda campaign by the powers that be...they are trying to brain wash you and you are letting them...
I like facts too and no, I can't prove it but look around...just look around...use your best judgement...the devil doesn't force you to do anything, he invites you in and you go willingly...
I agree, Andrew brought this on himself. It doesn't seem like he was really interested in hearing the answers. He just wanted to get as many questions asked as possible. It seems he wanted to make a scene. If not, he should have just walked out quietly when the guards approached him.
zeitgeist assumes much about the government. It paints the government as seduction. It bites on paranoia. The government is a friend of the people, that guy got thrown on the ground and tased because he was screaming and flailing around. Had he stayed calm he would have been fine. Learn the lesson from this man, it is how the information is put across that is important, not what is said.
nice bong bro.
420Steamroller 2 years ago
That is the most ignorant thing Ive ever heard. He brought it on himself? He asked a question that the police didnt like so they grabbed him. Free speach means nothing? Welcome to the police state and goodbye to the constitution.
dennis71220 2 years ago
"DONT SPEAK"?? really?? also saying "dont shoot" should not prompt anyone to shoot.. also the video on fox you can clearly hear him say if they let him go he would leave... also a taser is considered a deadly weapon, so why did they tase him when he presented no threat and handcuffed... cops are control freaks and have to much power.. on that note kerry said it was fine and that he would answer the questions.. the disruption didnt begin until the cops got involved..
Kimit420 2 years ago
i agree with everything you said, and the meyer kid did bring it on himself with the ways he handled things, but...i don't agree with you on the don't "tase me" is asking for a tasing....it was just his aggressiveness and attitude/tone, if he calmed down and said don't tase i think he would have avoided that event....HOWEVER, i don't believe what the cops did was right--power went to their heads. the guy didn't do anything to pose and physical danger, just a disturbance.
ango7 2 years ago
Meyer in his own words:
"I violated the rules of the forums, and was disruptive" "There were rules in place to ensure that the forum was run in an orderly fashion, and I did not follow them"
Legal precedents on limitations of speech set out in Bethel School District No. 403 v. Fraser - May prohibit the use of vulgar language
And Tinker v. Des Moines - Students may express themselves so long as they are not disruptive.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
Organizers had ample reason & the right to eject meyer. It was no violation of his rights to do so.
Bethel & Tinker have been cited by the Supreme Court in cases addressing college students so obviously the justices feel they are relevant.
The ACLU or meyer are free to bring a court case if they believe his rights were violated.
I doubt they will, because they know the precedents & at the cases the Supreme Court has declined to hear re: vulgar speech (Robinson v. Montana, for example.)
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
You are a fucking idiot. I wish you would scream "DON'T SHOOT" in front of someone who has a gun.
andyspeaking 3 years ago
He did bring it on himself.
fliegeroh 3 years ago
I kinda get where you're coming from. You manifest your reality, and his high energy and excitement brought an equivalent response in resistance from those around him.
But his passion and excitement should instead be seen as a spotlight, illuminating issues/questions that have been in darkness too long.
brizzlie 3 years ago
if you were in the same situation, you wouldnt have the balls to say anything to a presidential candidate. you would probably bend over and ask for some KY
momojackin 3 years ago
Dont be a DICK. you probably dont even know what its like to believe in something. You probably dont know what its like to get involved politically in a campus atmosphere. dick.
momojackin 3 years ago
Ian, ur a fucking dumbass! Ur saying it was right of the police to taser a kid bc he said "Dont tase me"? So, if a girl came up to u and said "Dont rape me" it would be morally acceptable for u to rape her bc u've been prompted to? Jesus, it scares me to think that people this crazy live in the same country I do.
darmokandgalad 3 years ago
"Ur saying it was right of the police to taser a kid bc he said "Dont tase me"?"
He wasn't tased for anything he said. He was tased for repeated refusal to put his arms behind his back. He was arrested for fighting with cops and yelling for the crowd to help him instead of walking out. He was made to leave for repeatedly breaking rules of the forum (on purpose). The tasing was NOT a punishment for him. It was to get him handcuffed.
virtualdynamo 3 years ago
"He brought it on himself." It's not about his emotional reaction. It's about the freedom of speech for citizens of this country. It really troubles me to see the people defending the police brutality. It really bothers me. It freaking upsets me. How did we come here? How did we get here?
Police is here to protect us getting paid our tax money. Wow, what an Alice wonderland I live in!
chosop25 3 years ago 5
There was no "brutality". He was given AMPLE opportunity to comply and aggressively refused. He asked for what he got.
Freedom of Speech had NOTHING to do with it. They let him ask his question even though he had been kikced out BEFORE that and HE refused to let Kerry answer FORCING his removal. Then he refused to leave, forcing his arrest. Then he refused ot be cuffed, forcing his tasing. He CHOSE for ALL of it to happen. He COULD have listened to Kerry answer his question, but CHOSe not to.
virtualdynamo 3 years ago
Hm, saying "Don't tase me" would only have the opposite effect in a sadistic creep. Great argument;)
36496481100 3 years ago
fail
phowardnguyen 3 years ago
Ian, you're an idiot. Meyer did not bring any such police action on himself! You've got 249 videos uploaded: Dude, you talk too much. "like the Jedis"?! Whatever. Pick up a book, man.
edwardspek 4 years ago
if it was me i would have died because i have a heart problem, what if this kid had a pacemaker or something? he was begging them not to tase him. our corrupt government is always going to use force, sadly. nice vid.
JesusDisciple777 4 years ago
If he were so scared of being tased, he would have calmed down and stopped flailing around like a freaked out animal.
kamh5891 3 years ago
"If he were so scared of being tased, he would have calmed down and stopped flailing around like a freaked out animal."
Exactly! Considering that they tried to deal with him in a non-violent manner for a full minute (not counting the time BEFORE THE VIDEO that he struggled instead of leaving and was told what he did wrong), I don't see how any sane person can say he was treated badly in any way.
virtualdynamo 3 years ago
"if it was me i would have died because i have a heart problem, what if this kid had a pacemaker or something?"
Then he shouldn't have gotten himself thrown out (TWICE) and he shouldn't have fought police instead of leaving, and he SURE AS HELL should have listedned to one of the MULTIPLE commands to put his hand behind his back so he could be cuffed.
virtualdynamo 3 years ago
I completely agree with everything you said in this video.
Tasers should be treated like guns, people!
Five stars and a new subscriber for you!
microscope3 4 years ago 2
Your right. Cops should be more like Jedis.
Funny, yet true.
TheLifeWeLiveEh 4 years ago
You have some good points, and some not so good points. Telling someone not to shoot does not prompt someone to shoot. You should, imho, formulate your points in a better fashion before you post. But you lost me when you had to bring in the Star Wars.
jenavive6 4 years ago
like Bobbies on bicycles... two by two
vikingsquid 4 years ago
It was a demonstration, even though he was only one person, and he demonstrated the extent to which we live in a country where police can take whatever measures they feel are necessary. Adam was trying to make a point, and it seems like you missed it.
PhotoBear1984 4 years ago
He wasn't trying to avoid making a point. I'm sure he didn't expect it to go that far, but I'm sure he expected a response when he brought up those issues. It seems his point was that even though a forum is called "open" and "public", people can still be silenced. He probably says "Don't tase me" because he sees the taser in policemen's hands. He says it out loud so that people know what's happening, because everyone was just sitting there doing nothing.
PhotoBear1984 4 years ago
Look, you're missing the point. Once the police started escorting him out, he started protesting because he protested their removing him when they really had no right to do so.
PhotoBear1984 4 years ago 2
moron:
noun 1. a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment.
2. Psychology. a person of borderline intelligence in a former classification of mental retardation, having an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69.
mrblisterfist 4 years ago 2
I agree with your message about 'listening' up to a point but SOME of the people SOME police run up against are not inclined to 'talk' or 'listen'. Especially if drugs are involved. Police do need to use some force sometimes, sorry to say it. Perhaps my perspective is different, my brother is a cop and I hear about it first hand.
GSONCBEARDAVID 4 years ago
5 stars for you!
Restlessi 4 years ago
it's like.......life man. you know?.......it's like there maaaaaan, and we live it.
aajurgy 4 years ago
he did bring it upon himself I think, if he didnt' freak out when the police confronted him he would have never been arrested
RealLifeDisaster 4 years ago
Wonderous words of the ignorant.
dontheman17 4 years ago
ya its a good idea stop speak and suffer
DrH5N1 4 years ago
dude your contradicting yourself
are you on drugs???
3mm3tbrown 4 years ago
I just have two words for you man, "FREE SPEACH!!" You have the right to question or critique what happened at the John Kerry speech. However, Meyer had just as much right to ask his questions. What kind of country do we live in anyway? This country is quickly turning out to be a place where asking the tough questions can get you arrested, or worse. They should have let him finish, I'm sure it would have ended much differently.
chijayboy79 4 years ago
They had no right to turn the mic off just simply because he was asking questions they didn't like. It proves that Bill of Rights is quickly becoming nothing but a document of empty words. It was outright police brutality. Whether you begged them not to tase or not wouldn't have made any difference you idiot
bcj999 4 years ago
Is that a smoke alarm chirping in the background? You should replace the batteries.
robrobbins 4 years ago
.. except Jedi mind tricks don't exist. Let's be realistic.
You had a point about his easy way out was being calm and just let him be carted away, but the police had NO right to use such excessive force.
He wasn't resisting violently and they had 6 guys! They couldn't put the cuffs on him with 6 guys?! Give me a break.
Uunna 4 years ago
has kerry answered any of the questions of andrew meyer or did he snake out of it ?
rotylee 4 years ago
As far as I can tell, he mumbled some ineffective shit while Andrew was getting tased and that was it.
I might have voted for the pussy, but jesus christ...oh, yeah...it was the lesser of two evils.
LyinDan 4 years ago
"Somebody, sometime has got to take a stand and say democracy cannot survive, much less thrive with the level of big corporate and big government interference and intimidation in news," Dan Rather said on CNN's "Larry King Live."
PatriotsofAMERICA 4 years ago
If saying "Don't tase, Don't tase" makes a person do the opposite and tase then do me a favor Ian...Speak Ian, Speak.
roryflynn 4 years ago
Yeah, he was saying "Don't tase me, don't tase me", roryflynn ... but what was he doing? He was continuing to struggle and resist against the officer's orders. It helps if you open your eyes and actually watch the footage before you attempt to preach.
BJR2536 4 years ago
Yeah he is not very bright...he just tries to come off that way because he's insecure. Imagine living your life grabbing at straws every moment and pretending they're gold. He's harmless though.
harpuaandme 4 years ago
Open your own eyes, cretin.
Let's boil it down. The guy got tased because he was insistant on asking questions of a political figure. That's the essence. If you think that's right, you're an idiot.
BTW, look up your rights concerning a cop trying to illegally arrest you.
LyinDan 4 years ago
Not sure if you were replying to me or not, but I wasnt really commenting on the Kerry issue. I was commenting on Ian and him always trying to come off as an intellectual. I dont agree at all with what college security did there.
harpuaandme 4 years ago
Sorry, that was for BJR2536. Comment system is confusing, isn't it?
LyinDan 4 years ago
Hummmm.....defuse is a very good word.
StephStance 4 years ago
You are totally on the money, Ian. Great commentary. I have been all over these videos trying to better educate everyone on the full story.
BJR2536 4 years ago
hi my name is ian crossland. i like to talk..A LOT!
LLCoolOyd127 4 years ago
What i dont understand is why did aproach him and take him away for asking a question was it a inappropriate question?
1SBD1 4 years ago
What if a police officer approaches a drunk person or someone that is high and crazy on drugs. You are saying they can just talk to those people? A taser sometimes is the only way to get them down...you need to get in the real world. Talking doesn't always work.
mkline718 4 years ago
Dude, think about it.
You're no different than Andrew Meyer.
fredastaire1 4 years ago 2
I was actually following and agreeing with you for once until you used the Jedi analogy.
spheenx 4 years ago
An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in
repelling any other assault and battery." State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260
"Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary." Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306."
2edgesword 4 years ago
Ian, the guy was already in handcuffs and lying face down, with several cops on top of him when they tased him. He was in their control 100% before they tased him. They weren't trying to get him under control by tasing him, he was ALREADY under their control. That's the difference. It's ok to taser someone in order to get them under control, so that an arrest can be made, but to tase them after they are already under control is torture.
afewgoodclips 4 years ago
He was not in handcuffs yet. The camera angle in the video that I have on my channel clearly shows his other hand on a chair right before he got tased. So your argument that he was 100% in control is false. I have video to prove that he was not cuffed yet before he was tased.
ArtisticHater 4 years ago
Ok. I know that there is video from the other side of him taken, which I haven't seen. From the one I saw it looked like he was. Still, they began to arrest him for the wrong reason. Once he was resisting, then they had him. People don't resist! He would've won his case if he hadn't done that.
afewgoodclips 4 years ago
Exactly. I think if he went to court he can file a law suit if he thinks he rights were violated. He can probably still do that btw. But the thing everybody was and still is sensitive about was the fact that he got tasered. They need to know that he got tasered for resisting to be escorted out, and not tasered just for speaking his mind. There's a difference between the two. Thanks for the reply.
ArtisticHater 4 years ago
When cut mic they trying 2 throw him out not arrest b4 he'ad finish ask 1st Q they try 2 shut him up Thats wrong of cops / as they escort him out & got near door he try 2 pull away from them hard & that when theyd've been justify tase Got him under control b4 tase that where he'as case law: if it neccecary 2 get him under control He got case though he try 2 resist That mean he go down 4 resisting get off on disturbing peace win on being tased imporperly lose on unlawful arrest
afewgoodclips 4 years ago
I really don't know what to say here.
I have a lot of thoughts, but I think I'll just say that you are out of your mind.
RadicalHarmony 4 years ago
He brought it on himself??? Are you being tempted by the devil (ie. Republican party?
GrowthSpiral 4 years ago
You've made a good point there, Ian.
Listening to others does make one calm down; it helps to diffuse a hostile situation, pacify turbulent emotions.
Indeed, we of the world need to listen more. Only then might the multitudes begin to truly understand each other. Too often, however, we focus on ourselves, our own emotions, as if WE are ALL that is under the sun. It's called selfishness.
One would be surprised at the understanding he would gain by simply, truly listening.
skewed12 4 years ago 3
He didn't bring it on himself.
As a free citizen, we have the right to know what the intentions of police officers are.
Two questions that are very important to always ask if you find yourself in a confrontation with a police officer is "Am I arrested" and "Am I free to go?"
boylebongo 4 years ago 2
That were the most intelligent thoughts about the whole Gainesville incidence yet.
gnu11111 4 years ago
I think you've made great points Ian. This appears to be a stunt and yet those officers, indeed the university, lacked a fully coordinated and focused effort. This should be expected. Hopefully, they do after action reports toreflect on better situation approaches like the Army does.
PhantomRazor 4 years ago
I'm not condemning them for doing their job with a resisting individual. I do think they could have out smarted this stunt before our theatric media got another fad.
PhantomRazor 4 years ago
I think it's a human right not to be harmed physically, and if the police curtails that right they must have a very, very good reason.
soares1903 4 years ago
He resisted arrest. The police wanted to take him away, he wouldn't budge. An officer significantly lower in heigh tried to get him to lower his arm, he wouldn't lower it. He became more agitated and aggressive. It's all there on tape, from several different angles. FACT
skibby 4 years ago 2
The reason he was interrupted was because he wasn't using his inside voice. He was just passionate and motivated and have probably been waiting to be heard for a long time. Like how Ian gets when he's in the moment. Though I agree he shouldn't have provoked the police even though they shouldn't have done anything. Shit, he was just being himself, I would have been pissed as well.
universalwhat 4 years ago
Ian, i totally agree that this character brought it upon himself. In fact, I find him quite annoying and an opportunist, just look at his website. Also, apparently he told the cops later that they had done nothing wrong, that they were just doing their job, and, he only acted out whenever there were cameras rolling...
skibby 4 years ago
What astounds me about this issue is the people who somehow consider the student's behaviour extreme enough to warrant multiple police officers piling onto him, then Tazering him. You really need to get some perspective, before one day you find yourself in the same position for a lesser 'offence'.
TheBeamOfTruth 4 years ago
i agree that he brought it on himself to a degree, it would be avoided if he just submited to the police but he shudnt hav to and ther was no need for the police to cut the mic and initiate the struggle if they had let him finish his harmless point. more worrying is the lack of action taken by the bystanders. Ther was no need to taze him he was alredy cuffed on the floor with 4 officers on his back. u can even see one of them smiling about it.
zebclarke 4 years ago
Holy crap, Ian is making sense to me, and I agree. I need mental help :O
katlynamria 4 years ago
Andrew's a communist, Ian. Do the knowledge.
SpokenWord333 4 years ago
Ian, there are situations in which force is needed for that police officers own protection or for that of others. To say they need to listen to people...I'm not gonna listen to a guy who's waving a gun and shooting at people. He needs to be stopped before he hurts people and if thats by dropping him first, so be it.
neoharuo 4 years ago
Neoharuo,
each situation an officer faces is different, they need to learn how to handle each situation. Sometimes violence breeds more violence, and communication in a civil manner can defuse things. That's why they have special agents in a hostage situation that can bargain with the criminal.
markangeloc 4 years ago
cont Neoharup,
Your regular cop has no traing in that, they just react like animals. I believe the solution is to train them to be less aggressive and learn the power of speech.
markangeloc 4 years ago
listening, ok, wat
kjhgfd1234 4 years ago
You are not totally off base with some of this. You do seem to live in a world of your own though, for good or bad. The out of focus eye thing, that happens to me too, but I don't usually talk during it, can drive though, my eyes get stuck. It might be a type of seizure actually.
PositivelyPrimitive 4 years ago
I actually agree with this.
HateNeverCeasesHate 4 years ago
I believe in mind over matter, and lets say that the thought process brought upon the actions or the matter. My question to you is, is it right what they did? Are you not mad about what happened. Our freedom of speech is being eliminated, the government and their puppets are over using force to control us and keep us quiet.
markangeloc 4 years ago
And have you not considered that he screamed "Don't tase me" because he could see the cop preparing to Tazer him? You're a grade 1 idiot sometimes Ian.
TheBeamOfTruth 4 years ago 3
THINK about what you're saying Ian. The guy was manhandled out a an auditorium for ASKING QUESTIONS. He didn't "bring it on himself", the Police mad the first move and began bundling him out of the building - with NO explanation as to why. If you're grabbed in the street tomorrow by Police and they try to bundle you into the back of their car, exactly how Peacefully will YOU go?
TheBeamOfTruth 4 years ago 4
when you talked about police being more like the jedi and carrying around flashlights i thought you were going to say "light sabers-- when they are invented-- someone should invent light sabers."
justwatching1980 4 years ago
Andrew Meyers may have been overzealous, and maybe yes wanted to show the world the truth in the lack of our first amendment, but he did not diserve the force used upon him. I think he was doing an experiment of which he succeeded to prove what he set out to prove.
markangeloc 4 years ago
this is the norm in florida,police brutality is common place, i am glad this happened here. this is a war zone. thanks jimmy carter and castro, and lets not forget the bush mob.this is minor compared to what really happens down here with corrupt government and cops
tampasdream 4 years ago 2
I'm happy I live in Ireland, our police are armed only with their tongue. I've seen them in action and their priority is to difuse a situation.
yellowlabrador 4 years ago
You're wrong Ian, when in this country has anyone been treated like that. Do you know that three of the cops where suspeneded for doing that to him. That kid did nothing wrong.
Fringe111 4 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
He did do things wrong. He resisted police authority, and according to the legal system, and police jurisdiction, they did what was necessary with a non-compliant person. We pay the police to do their job, they did it, now don't complain.
PositivelyPrimitive 4 years ago
Positivelyprimitive,
We pay the police to be civil and arrest criminals and to keep us safe. None of which fit Andrew. He was not a criminal, he was asking questions. Police need to learn how to handle a situation without violence. They are reactive and unstable.
markangeloc 4 years ago 3
To not obey a police officer's orders IS a crime.
PositivelyPrimitive 4 years ago
They work for us, they are a civil servant. They are not God or any authoritative figure, they think they are but they are not. They didn't ask him to do anything they manhandled him and used unnecessary forced. They committed the crime.
markangeloc 4 years ago 3
They told him to get down. They weren't yelling it. They ARE an authority figure, that is their JOB, we pay them for it. If you don't like what they do, you need to advocate for change. They WERE doing their job. I may not like it, you may not, but it is so.
PositivelyPrimitive 4 years ago
Job description: To serve and protect. What were they protecting against. A young college student with questions. He didn't have a weapon and he didn't poss a threat to anyone. They need to go over their job description and learn work ethics.
markangeloc 4 years ago 2
Watch the video and tell us exactly what orders they gave before grabbing him and dragging him out. None.
TheBeamOfTruth 4 years ago 3
OK. They are there to keep order. Police do that as part of their job. They had rules there to enforce. No one can hear what they said or didn't say. They didn't yell. I don't like what happened, but even within that feeling, I understand what police enforcement is about. Try to get past your raw emotions.
PositivelyPrimitive 4 years ago
Order can be kept with civility, they use excessive force to do so and it is not necessary, not on this occasion. Watch the tape from the beginning the original. Police enforcement in this country is all wrong and power driven.
markangeloc 4 years ago
Power corrupts. Why do you think they tasered him in an easily videotaped public area...were they just THAT mad? It doesn't seem like they were/should have been. Seems like they would only do it when easily hidden?
PositivelyPrimitive 4 years ago
PositivePrimitive,
because they are not to bright. They reacted instead of assessing the situation. He did not warrant the behavior, the men in power brought on. They are in major trouble, they made the school look bad and the police force too. They wont be able to get out of this one.
markangeloc 4 years ago
Hmmmm, maybe, on the not too bright part. I don't know them personally. "The men in power", hard to suppress a grin at that one, but yeah, Fight the Man. Those MEN, in general, argggghhh. If only women ruled the world! Peace out, Anne
PositivelyPrimitive 4 years ago
Thank you
Fringe111 4 years ago
You're welcome. : )
PositivelyPrimitive 4 years ago
whats wrong ian, you jealous he got some REAL attention for actually DOING something? maybe you should get tasered...or ECT for that matter...
donzapuka 4 years ago
Staged or not...I would rather they tazer (sp) than shoot...Which happens every day somewhere on this little rock...
popsuckits 4 years ago
if he had just let them arrest him and not made an ass of himself, hed have more support already
jhentros 4 years ago
Good on you Ian.
phaedress 4 years ago
I don't agree with you Ian.
DutchGirl107 4 years ago 2
lol whyd u make that funny face at the end.. made me forget about everything u just talked about in the vid..
ladylabret 4 years ago
No worry. It was just another case of unreasonable demand and disruptive behavior. Personally I thought the guy was rather insulting. He didn't have a "right" to be there and do whatever he pleased. He was forcibly resisting his removal and being placed under restraint. That was probably why he was tasered.
httprover 4 years ago
In an ideal world, we'd never have to use tasers and guns and things, and police are tought and are very good (99%of the time) at defusing violence without using them.
ozjthomas 4 years ago
Ian are you a member of the cult of scientology?
If you are then every video you have ever made finally makes sense to me~
Hereinmyhead102 4 years ago
Excellent point there, Ian Crossland.
Perhaps 7 times out of 10 an angry individual is angry because of something they've not been able to express, so listening to them if they seem to be in a forthcoming mood underneath the anger often disarms the situation.
Well put.
~Jonolan
JonolanFairchild 4 years ago
Great, now my city is not only known for its serial murders, but also stupid college students.
I thought I'd point out that Andrew Meyer is the same guy who stood on the corner of University Ave holding up a sign that said "Harry dies" the day before the 7th book came out. He clearly lives to start crap with other people.
joyface 4 years ago
Damnit, I accidently thumbed this down.
HOMOGENELOUS' POST SHOULD BE +2
TheFobster 4 years ago
i was pulled over by a jedi last week
DavidAttaway 4 years ago 2
We've all seen Judge Dread..... cops in the future will be Judge, Jury, and Executioner.
ArtOfficial 4 years ago
Ian, you are featuring on your channel the video "George Bush Inauguration 2005 Pepper Spray" which I recommended on your last Vblog.
The video shows the peoples rights to free assembly were taken away by soldiers and police. The Fourth Amendment was violated.
You feature it yet you don't get it. hmmm
OneoftheImmortals 4 years ago
To an extent agree with your position as to why things happen, also many times the subconscious gives you up regarding something that got you thinking on the consequences, there's an adage that says whom owes nothing, fears nothing, the law of reaping what you sow.
Bembenutti 4 years ago
I like to think of cops as Peace Officers first and foremost. I tell people I love the cops and that they're fine people and then I get slimed because of the actions of a few really out of line cops. I think they DO teach what you said they should focus on, but it's the personality type that is drawn to positions of authority that perverts the job description and hence, cops get a bad rap.
kennedywinters 4 years ago
So let's all beat up on the college student for not obeying the rules by asking . . . OMG . . . 3 questions.
Who are you people?
OneoftheImmortals 4 years ago 3
OneoftheImmortals. Way to go! Is this the way you over simplify matters for the liberal rag that you work for?
You know yourself that he was dead set on escalating matters until he got the footage that he came for.
Congratulations on becoming Andrew Meyer's tool!!
EStop1 4 years ago
Ian Crossland made $2700 already for the cult he is trying to start. Look at his ian.crossland geocities page!
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kristapierce 4 years ago
The simple fact is, they didn't need to USE the tazer. He was a slender college kid and could've been easily dragged out of the room. The exit was near too. What do you think the cops did before tazers? They didn't beat them with night sticks. They just man handled them. Tazing is to account for a needed force. 5+ cops was plenty of force that would've resulted in less pain and publicity. Cops made the wrong choice.
shiningcross 4 years ago 2
You don't stand in line at Disneyland to go on a ride three times in a row, security will ask you to move along - he should have stayed calm. Andrew was being extremely obnoxious - It's sad because I thought his question was very interesting. Maybe Andrew didn't learn in preschool how to stand in line. It seemed to me like he just wanted the attention.
pierceBoi15 4 years ago
Ian..........like the Jedi? lol. man your funny.
LimpLoser 4 years ago
when the cops get hold of you dont resist they will go crazy and beat you up.
LimpLoser 4 years ago
wow. except for the goofy notion about how this guy's saying the word arrest and tase caused the cops to arrest and tase him, this was almost a sensible video.
wait...i just got to the star wars part. forget what i said earlier.
oh, and i have to disagree...amanda punching ian in the face was a good thing. other than that one time, he's right about it wrong to punch other people.
tdejmcd 4 years ago
I agree with you, Ian. I believe all police officers should be required to, at least, minor in psychology(esp abnormal psych). I guess that would also mean requiring college diplomas instead of the current high school diploma requirement.
buddhamind 4 years ago
Brought it on himself?
The police will be different in the future, as in, won't carry weapons?
Jesus...
Ian, you seem to be completely blind to what is occurring in this country. This vlog makes me want to throw up.
Bodobaas 4 years ago 2
I don't know about your future police and the Jedi, but I think you got everything else exactly right. The guy wanted to be tased and cops tase way too easily.
theCommenteer 4 years ago
I agree with you 100%.Also, get a haircut, son.
dude61298 4 years ago
questions for ya ian....i heard a statement that 70% of folks in our prisons were in there for victimless crimes. how can you have a crime if there is no victim? why do people get scared when they are driving and obeying all the laws and a cop pulls behind them? how does society view our "protectors and defenders?" is it in our minds? explain
addisonandamber 4 years ago
Ian..Check out Gnosticism...it is the root...Greek for knowing....that is the new movement...it is old, but then again, every thing is cyclicar (poor spelling, but what goes around comes around again. History constantly repeats itself).
sweetqueento3 4 years ago
Cyclical
cosmicbenji 4 years ago
cosmicbenji, thank you!
sweetqueento3 4 years ago
noworries. we all know what you're saying. If you havn't already, be sure to check out the zeitgeist dot com website to see the whole movie, where gnosticism is mentioned among "other" things.
We're ALL IN THIS TOGETHER!
cosmicbenji 4 years ago
No, I haven't seen it but I definitely will be checking into it! Thanks for the lead...
sweetqueento3 4 years ago
he still didn't deserve getting hurt. it was abuse.
WayneHughes86 4 years ago
Yes, I always thought the jedi mind trick was more effective than a tazer or gun, but the real question is whether the jedi mind trick is more effective than a beam of truth. Think about that.
andyfnmizac1 4 years ago
Yeah, he brought it on himself. He started freaking out. He fucked it up. Kerry was actually answering his question too. The police went too far, but that's no surprise.
sarajonn 4 years ago
Great Leader Ian, im disappointed. You take time out of you epic and important life to talk about some prick who got tasered. Sadly, you wont talk about the racist that is going in the south with the Jena 6. Tell me if Im wrong but you havent said a word about racism. So how about you shine some of you words of wisdom on this subject?
pyrodogg 4 years ago
Nice smile and sweather...and you make some sense....
baby4honey 4 years ago
He was arrested for inciting a riot. i think he asked a few too many questions but thats not inciting a riot.
they should have been esscorted out. he should have stopped after the second question. but still no reason for 4 fat cops to sit on him then tase him after they had cuff on him
Hereinmyhead102 4 years ago
It is such bullshit to tazer someone even for a legitimate reason if there are that many men around and the person is already detained. God forbid Kerry should get passionate about government.. although if anyone who gets passionate about anything gets arrested and tazed in your country I can see why that idea is not popular.
DrLemur 4 years ago
I wonder if the Skull/Bones comment made the cops think of him as, "One of those conspiracy theory nuts..." Up until that statement, it seemed like they were at least trying to humor him. They were all 3 VERY VALID questions I felt. I STILL look forward to Kerry's answer???
cosmicbenji 4 years ago
Im not sure but if someone was holding a taser against my chest for about 45 even when they got cuffs on me .... well i think i would say dont tase me as well. so you are saying if this guy instead for saying dont tase me said dont shoot me then he forced the cops to shoot him? have you lost your mind?
Hereinmyhead102 4 years ago
Yes the police force should definitely use the force more. And jedi mind tricks too. For once we are on the same page.
DrLemur 4 years ago
well you can say what you want you cant taser some thats in in handcuffs. the taser is meant to stop a person that in not in control to allow cops to get handcuffs thus gaining control of the person.
A person on the ground with at least 4 cops on him with cuffs on is no threat to anyone. btw wtf happened to free speech?
Hereinmyhead102 4 years ago
I appreciate your views on this Ian. Still unclear to me though: 1.Why were there 5 cops next to the microphone? 2. Why did the Skull & Bones question seem to set them off? 3. I sent you a Youtube message. Please check it out.
cosmicbenji 4 years ago
I appreciate your viewpoint on this Ian, but I still find it strange that 1st of all there were cops anywhere near the microphone. Security for Mr. Kerry, I understand, but why were there 5 of them RIGHT NEXT TO THE MIC? Also, why did the Skull & Bones question seem to set them off? 3rd, I sent you a message entilted "something to ponder."
cosmicbenji 4 years ago
The cops were right there because Meyer had created a bit of a scene previous to where those videos pick up, in jumping to the head of the line. Kerry defused that by telling Andrew he would answer his question.
LyinDan 4 years ago
Man, the comments system was really screwy last night. Lost some of my addendums. Oh, well.
LyinDan 4 years ago
Great point Ian!
washboard1997 4 years ago
Read your damn youtube email you jerk :P
Clockworkforest 4 years ago
Can I ask wtf you are suppose to "focus" on when you have cops putting their hands on you and physically moving you WITHOUT even asking you to leave?
They manhandled first then claim they were "calming down" the situation.. They ESCALATED the situation. Dont put your hands on people badge or not and expect respect back.. He did nothing wrong to have them "physically remove" him.
JusticePetitioner 4 years ago
You are absolutely correct, sir.
LyinDan 4 years ago
just out of curiosity what makes you think I am a "sir".. I mean there are millions of people on youtube.. are you that confident in your telepathic abilities that you come to a conclusion based on one comment?
And ty for agreeing.
JusticePetitioner 4 years ago
It was a generic sir. Sorry.
LyinDan 4 years ago
he had the mic for one question but charged through the first one and asked three. They cut him off in the middle of his third question. I would have liked to hear Kerry's response.
IanCrossland 4 years ago
Passion. Should we not let passion stand? For shame.
Clockworkforest 4 years ago
Nicely and intelligently presented as a help for another person. This is Ian at his best. Not tring to be something he isn't. This Ian is calm and intelligent, and I fnd you to be a very real, interesting person. You weren't a'tall hyper! Good luck, Jenny
beejenny38 4 years ago
Ok, I stopped your vid at a minute because I'm unsubscribing. You're basically saying it's ok for them to taze the guy simply because he said not to! I should shoot people I don't like if they ask me not to! If you listen to around the time they turn off the mic, Kerry says, "NO, IT'S ALRIGHT! LET ME ANSWER HIS QUESTION." So how come they didn't PROMPT themselves to stop, and leave the guy alone? He didn't start acting crazy until they were taking his RIGHTS away from him!
sekseemindee 4 years ago
Ok, I stopped your vid at a minute because I'm unsubscribing. You're basically saying it's ok for them to taze the guy simply because he said not to! I should shoot people I don't like if they ask me not to! If you listen to around the time they turn off the mic, Kerry says, "NO, IT'S ALRIGHT! LET ME ANSWER HIS QUESTION." So how come they didn't PROMPT themselves to stop, and leave the guy alone? He didn't start acting crazy until they were taking his RIGHTS away from him!
sekseemindee 4 years ago
he started acting crazy when he didn't wait for an answer to his first question. watch the entire video before you generalize the message.
IanCrossland 4 years ago
The police did not listen to Kerry.
Five police officers tasered the man who was already in handcuffs face down on the floor. He yelled because he saw the taser coming at him.
This is violent police brutality. The police are supposed to be trained. ALWAYS RESPOND, "DON"T SHOOT!!!"
This bit of advice saved my life when a cop was out of control. I talked my way into relaxing the sick bastard.
Unfortunately, things like this happen far too often (countless times) with the police.
OneoftheImmortals 4 years ago 2
I want to address Ian's Lethal Advice on what to do if someone (other than the police) tries to violate you. . . If you are in a position of being grabbed, yell, SCREAM, "FIRE."
People respond when they hear the word FIRE than the word HELP. Never go quietly when someone invades your space.
Never let them take you from Location A to Location B.
DO NOT leave location A without putting up the fight of your life.
OneoftheImmortals 4 years ago 2
you guys should know that Ian Crossland gets paid to do this...it's part of a propaganda campaign by the powers that be...they are trying to brain wash you and you are letting them...
theredpill99 4 years ago
Prove it. I'm a factual person.
mistaspot1 4 years ago
I like facts too and no, I can't prove it but look around...just look around...use your best judgement...the devil doesn't force you to do anything, he invites you in and you go willingly...
theredpill99 4 years ago
I agree, Andrew brought this on himself. It doesn't seem like he was really interested in hearing the answers. He just wanted to get as many questions asked as possible. It seems he wanted to make a scene. If not, he should have just walked out quietly when the guards approached him.
no1funkydiva 4 years ago
zeitgeist assumes much about the government. It paints the government as seduction. It bites on paranoia. The government is a friend of the people, that guy got thrown on the ground and tased because he was screaming and flailing around. Had he stayed calm he would have been fine. Learn the lesson from this man, it is how the information is put across that is important, not what is said.
IanCrossland 4 years ago