Auto DIY Tips- Body and Paint - (How To Use Body Filler) *BONDO*

[invisible634]

you know, I watched your video a while back, then actually took some classes in college which went smoothly for me, thanks. It sure is nice to reflect back on a video to catch the little details that may be overlooked. For example, multi coat application is far better than one thick coat. I learned the hard way as I was put on a "Bondo" job. Tried to say filler they were like we only use bondo and walked away. They had evercoat. go figure.

[ButlerCollision]

@invisible634 I am glad you find these videos useful. I also agree, it is good to refresh often, as we all learn more. Learning never stops...Thanks for watching!

[ButlerCollision]

I would go ahead and sand them out. If you hit bare plastic, remember to spray plastic adhesion promoter before applying primer. At the store you buy your products from, ask them about it. Every paint brand is a little different.

[budzag]

Hey mate i just sanded my bumper and have alot of chips in the paint from stones, would i just bog over all the chips to try smooth out or would putty be better 4 bumper? cheers

[ButlerCollision]

@budzag I would go ahead and sand them out. If you hit bare plastic, remember to spray plastic adhesion promoter before applying primer. At the store you buy your products from, ask them about it. Every paint brand is a little different.

[wyatt3flip]

what should i do if my dent is deeper than a quarter of an inch?

[ButlerCollision]

@wyatt3flip I would try to get it within 1/4 of an inch. However, if you can't, you don't want to overwork the metal. You may consider applying the first coat with fiberglass filler that comes in a can.

[MrZdvy]

Why would you apply filler directly to bare metal? I always thought the metal underneath the filler is going to rust causing the filler to crack and ruin the paint.

I've seen a lot of older repairs on cars that had cracked filler/paint so something went wrong.

[ButlerCollision]

@MrZdvy Body filler is designed to be applied on bare steel. I have seen what you are talking about too. This is probably due to the filler being too thick, the metal started rusting before the filler was applied, or improperly mixed filler. Thanks for watching and let me know if you have other questions.

[alpinelover7170]

before applying the bondo would you put like a etching primer over the bare metal so it dosnt rust overtime under the bondo?

[ButlerCollision]

@alpinelover7170 No, you do not want to apply etch primer before the filler. You can apply body filler straight to the bare metal. The only primer that body filler can be applied over is epoxy primer. I have always just applied it to bare metal.

[supercolorsautobody]

estos gringos pendejos hacen una ciencia de algo tan sencillo,son bien pendejos aun con toda su tecnologia,watch me videos

[eric31291]

can body filler be used on plastics such as bumper lips - polyurathane? i have some pretty deepish scratches that need filler but it still has the paint on it, does the paint have to be removed to apply filler? Dont know how to get that paint out its on a bad curve and too much sanding will ruin the shape.

[ButlerCollision]

@eric31291 I would not use body filler on plastic. I would use plastic repair adhesive or a flexible parts putty for a scratch. If the scratch is down to raw plastic, it may need a thin coat of adhesion promoter before applying the material. Thanks for watching.

[bizzarrogeorge]

Very well done and very helpful. Thanks for the instruction!

[ButlerCollision]

@bizzarrogeorge I am glad the video was useful to you. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks for watching!

[TheRickmurray]

Was that just a sanded surface you put the filler over, can you put it directly onto paint?

[PriinsexYO]

@TheRickmurray

No you can't. Putting it over another paint will overlay across the paint causing corrosion and bubbling. So be sure to sand down and clean the surface before application. You can do it with paint on but in the long track it will show up.

[TheRickmurray]

@PriinsexYO Wow, I sure do appreciate your help! I never expected you to answer to be honest.. Your a great guy, Thanks alot!

Rick

[ButlerCollision]

@TheRickmurray Thanks for watching.

[jvisaplayer831]

when applying layers of body filler, do you apply epoxy primer or some sort of adhesion material prior to adding another layer of filler?

[ButlerCollision]

@jvisaplayer831 No, you apply body filler straight over body filler. The only thing you want to do is sand between coats. Be sure to sand the low areas as well to rough it up before applying another layer. Thanks for watching!

[TommyChevyBugle]

good job B

[ButlerCollision]

@TommyChevyBugle Thanks for watching!

[showoff07]

very helpful now i can finally bondo my sunroof lol thanks

[MrNammz]

looks like my uncle

[master09ace]

great video, showed me basics that i needed to start on my project

[malibusmost101]

thank you



[ButlerCollision]

@malibusmost101 Your Welcome! Thanks for watching!

[badarunas]

you doing wrong man!

[sofargone561]

thanks for ino and easy to understand instrctions

[ButlerCollision]

@sofargone561 Thanks for watching!

[stunt2stun]

give him a raise for being a awesome easy to understand teacher!

[ButlerCollision]

@stunt2stun Thanks!

[imtyz2009]

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[bh14231]

can you mix it on a flat tin shingle?

[DonnieSmith7]

@bh14231 Yes, I don't see a problem with tin. Just make sure it is clean and you should be fine. Just don't use cardboard.

[SexyKush420]

@DonnieSmith7 why not? i use cardboard

[PDubsP]

Love your videos. Would really like to see one for color sanding.

[ButlerCollision]

@PDubsP If you go to CollisionBlast you will see a ABRN HOW2 link on the right side of the website. Click that link and you will see a video on color sanding. Thanks for watching.

[exoroh]

really helpful thanks!

[ButlerCollision]

@exoroh Thanks!

[imtyz2009]

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[imtyz2009]

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[imtyz2009]

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[ButlerCollision]

@imtyz2009 Thanks for your comment!

[TheColt11]

this video is shit and you use shit fillter and you chat shit and you put is on shit

[SuperMustangDude]

@TheColt11 What the fuck is your problem? I found this helpful. If you didn't like it, just dislike the thing and move on. Dont be an asshole.

[Bertziethegreat]

Can you use an orbital sander to level it out, or should you only do so by hand?

[ButlerCollision]

@Bertziethegreat I am not a big fan of using an orbital sander on body filler. It tends to round the filler instead of level it. I would use hand or straight line sanders.

[holeinone666]

hey. my friend has a 1969 oldsmobile 442 that has rust damage in spots. we just started removing the visible spots by hand with 150 grit paper. should we sand the whole thing with a block by hand. sanding with 80 then 150 and so on. just to get it ready for primer. and in spots where the rust has ate into good metal pretty bad should we apply bondo on it. is so how do we do that? thanks

[romannaputi]

hey i got a question why does my bodyfiller show when i primer it but it looks straight and feels smooth its looks as of it a high spot can u tell me hoto fix that

[ButlerCollision]

@romannaputi the key is to cross sand when block sanding. sand in one direction, than the other. This will help level. You may be using too fine of sandpaper. Use 80 grit until level before smoothing with finer grit. Lastly, you may try using a rag to feel the surface. This may help you feel highs and lows better. Oh, don't forget to use guide coat either.

[MrPeeintheShower]

@romannaputi use a cheese grater to start.. hit it with some 80, some 120, then some 220, 320, 400 etc...

[Chevrolet490]

it would be nice if you did a demonstration on hammer and dolly a dent all the way with no filler

[megaman2000]

Great video! really helped!

[WickedCustomz]

you can use some fiberglass resin to thin it out also

[ButlerCollision]

@WickedCustomz Thanks for the tip. I have used it before and it works great. Thanks for the advice.

[hecttorfather]

whats the litle tube called??

[ButlerCollision]

@hecttorfather - that is the cream hardener. This is what makes the body filler harden.

[ButlerCollision]

@hecttorfather that is the cream hardener. It should come with the filler when you buy it.

[Cre8musiq]

Very helpful!

My truck has cracked paint through 50% of the body.Is there any other solution than to cout it down to bare metal and start fresh?I started with the rear fender and had no idea how time consumng it would be.

[ButlerCollision]

@Cre8musiq I glad that you liked the video. I agree, this work is very time consuming!

[ButlerCollision]

@Cre8musiq thanks, if you have any questions let me know!

[bxrumble]

I've poured some Acetone in a can of body filler that was almost completely hardened and mixed it, it got loose to its original constancy and worked just fine soon after.

[ted850760]

Wow how long you been doing auto body repairs...I mean teaching ...those that 'can' do ,those that can't teach....BTW plastic honey is made to thin polyester based auto body fillers [bondo]

[ruuman]

thanks for the video, was just trying for the first time today. just realised my mixing technique was causing my issues, many thanks

[ButlerCollision]

@ruuman thnaks for watching

[michplo]

good video !!!!! start it whit a 80 and get down to a 180 before prime!!!! good Job

[cellplato]

80 grit is way to coarse.....after paint you'll be able to see sand scratches :(...prim first then finish off with 400 wet sand :)

[rocker0912]

hmm. my collision repair teacher is letting us use cardboard, he told us we can use a plastic surface like a clipboard but he didnt really provide it for us. also we only have those yellow plastic spreaders. i acually "bond-o"ed today and it was a huge dent that we stud welded and slide hammered on, so maybe i should have started on a hailstone dent haha. im sure i can handle those small dents but larger ones might be a trick

[greencard]

Can you tell me the step of removing a dent applying body filler and how to paint. I need Help really bad. My auto body welding teacher suck. i really want to finish my car before the end of november

[greencard]

can u apply body filler on top of another layer of try body filler

[ShadowMakerOfMasks]

Excellent tutorial.

5/5

~Shadow

[chevycamaro1976]

good stuff

[littleturbs]

DRY sand the filler with 180, feather edge the paint 240-280, 80 is to course and the paint may look like crap after awhile when it shrinks

[ButlerCollision]

You're right, 80 is too course to finish sand the filler, if you're not going to apply a coat of glazing putty.

[littleturbs]

i liked how u applied the putty... not putting the putty over the paint.

[DsKoRn]

Very useful tutorial ;)

Thanks !

[Jehuty77]

Hey What about Rusted out Wheel Wells, I'm grinding them down, and the only thing i can do is fill the dips with body filler but some of the holes are over 1/4 inch.

[ButlerCollision]

The best thing to do is to cut out the rusted areas and replace with new metal. This will require MIG welding. Be sure to use a coat of fiberglass filler on your first coat over welds. Fiberglass filler is stronger and seals much better that body filler. Sand FG and apply a layer of body filler on top of that.

[assmonster666]

Why is he wearing shades in the shop? Is he robcop from the future?

[COMCASTICDEVIL]

yEA, YOU'LL BE TALKING CRAP WHEN YOU GET SHIT IN YOUR EYE!

gOOD VID!

[jamii192]

haha

[ButlerCollision]

The brand we are using in this video is Z-Grip by Evercoat. We also use Rage and a filler made by the PPG Paint company.

[Theophilos77]

What brand of filler are you using?

[santa914]

just did this in school today. it was great the teacher dented a hood for me and went through the the process then made another dent and let me do it on my own. i enjoyed it.

[Artyfil]

Nice vid... how come you can't use more than 1/4 inch thickness of filler? I have a few dents on my car from a small accident where some of them are up to 1/2-3/4 inches deep.  Does that mean i can't use body filler??

[ButlerCollision]

I really don't like to apply more then 1/8", but it is recommended that you can go up to 1/4". The reason you don't want to go thicker is because it may crack on you later. To repair your car I would pull the dent first to eliminate the amount of filler needed. Check out some of our other videos for different pulling methods. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask us.

[hotroddfalcon]

i hear ya car painter....you gotta laugh at southern craftsmanship...lol

[ButlerCollision]

Thanks for your comment. It is important to apply your first coat of filler tight. You want to push it into the surface and scratches. However, in a small imperfection as this a second coat was not needed. It also makes it much easier to sand if you taper your edges. Feather edging your edge of body filler is the hardest part. Smoothing your edges while applying makes this much easier. When you sand be sure to cross sand. This will help you from undercutting the edges.

[Carpaintersguide]

Eh, excuse me? What is this? Why do you apply at first a pretty thick layer of filler? Then you suddenly get a brain damage and remove it all? You have to learn something young fella