萬惡之源 - 信仰病毒 The Root of All Evil - The Virus of Faith (第四部份)

[yellowlynx]

To all discussing Buddhism and Christianity -- not they have crucial difference, enough to distinguish them as two totally dissimilar religion.

Christianity talks about Original Sin and state of damnation by God (human are destined to hell to start with) -- so there is a need of atonement by Christ's sacrifice. Buddhism has none of that. Christianity makes exclusive claims that they are the ONLY source of truth & salvation -- not Buddhism

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx well, you see, if you replace the phrase "original sin" with past life karma, and "Christ" with immortal body, then you will see that these are two different ways aof saying the same thing. American Christians are circumcisers, they know little about spirituality.

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch It is still different -- this is 23 years of Christian talking -- Buddhist never preaches or teach about immortal body, just a state of enlightenment.

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx actually they do, that is why jesus had to spend 18 plus yeas cultivating it...

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch There is only a missing account for Jesus that spanned approximately 18 years in the Gospel which are NOT reliable records -- that does not mean they are the same -- the theory that Jesus went to India to learn Buddhism is just pure hoax.

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx no it's not. how did he know about karma and reincarnationthen? you think he learned it from the penis-mutilating yahudis?

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch First, you simply assert that Karma and Original sin, immortal body and Christ is the same by replacing words - this is pure speculation and NOT fact supported by anything more than your guess. There's no evidence to support that the person Jesus even existed historically -- the accounts in Luke about his childhood are not supported by other evidences -- so if the very existence of Jesus is so doubtful and flimsy - how can you assert that he know about karma and reincarnation?

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx it is not speculation because they are translations. jews do not know what "karma" is, so Jesus said for example, you will not enter heaven until your "debts" are paid. Jews can comprehend money and debt better than karma. He said entering then world maimed is better than being whole and doing bad, because it means the debts are moving toward an end. He told the rich man to give up his wealth, receive 100 fold in the next life, then give that up again to attain heaven. continuing.

[gingowitch]

@gingowitch he said he would "return" AKA reincarnate one more time. In Buddhism such a person is a "once-returner."

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch This whole argument of yours is speculation -- where are the sacred texts that actually show the link ? Where is your evidence which shows that Jesus had been to India ? Can you explain why Jesus said: Those who don't accept me as their king slaughter them before me ?

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx because jesus was a holy man, he accepted his life to be the "Christ" by accepting the Christ or "Immortal Fetus, which develops into the Immortal Son; aka "born in the spirit". He is an example if you will, but he helps people spiritually by the story to accept the Christ. In the East, they do not talk about the Immortl Body so openly, so Jesus decided to spread this knowledge, but many modern American Christians are stupid. Those who take a foolish path are wasting themselves.

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch Just prove to me, show me the evidence that Jesus even existed !!!! not these superstitious mumbo-jumbo which is as stupid as American Christians.....

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx it is not stupid what i say, i read buddhist and taoist things and they mentioned the Immortal Body, I just put two and two together to make 4. Christ is Immortal Body. Search "Mantak Chia" and click first video. Also, there is plenty of evidence to say he was in India during the 18 years.

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch So you admit they are not supported by evidence -- just your invention ? The idea that Jesus was in India during the 18 years was already debunked -- that so called holy text that refers to Jesus was NEVER found!

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx It is a theory and many Indians and Pakistanis have known it for many centuries. And there were documents, and the Vatican itself has documents. So why are you reluctant to believe this? Does it really affect you?

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch You say Vatican has documents ? Please provide the names and link if any -- so far in my understanding of Catholicism and historical analysis, there is NO SUCH documents.

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx there is so much information - on youtube even. just search for it.

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch I've seen them most and also the other side's argument -- the so called Jesus in India theory is built on sand.

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx whatever, the spiritual teaching is what is important. But to me it makes a lot of sense.

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch If the "spiritual teaching" is based on something that is not true at all, how can it make sense ?

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx OH PLEASE, GET REAL!

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch To get REAL is to accept only those that can be shown real !!! Not myths, not hearsays, not unproven "theory of Jesus in India"....

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx man, jesus is real, he is in the highest realm of heaven. don't bother yourself with the india story. it is as buddhists say, suffering in the mind.

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch These are empty assertions with NO historical proof at all !!! It is not even sure if Jesus really existed !!!!

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx ha, yeah, who are people praying to then? do you think it is no one, that they don't feel jesus or other saints?

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch You can also pray to a jug of milk, your pillow, your toilet bowl and get the same results -- and better than those people praying to...at least I can touch the jug of milk, my pillow and the toilet bowl!!! They are merely praying to mythical and imaginary figures!

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx no, jesus., mohammed, Gautama, they are real.

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch (1) Muslims don't pray to Mohammed (2) Jesus is not real -- so far as evidences shows us (3) Gautama real but buddhists don't pray to them

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx WHAT? wHAT DO YOU WANT?  jESUS WAS REAL -

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch I want nothing but evidence to demonstrate that Jesus was real -- but as a Christian for 23 years I found no convincing or conclusive evidence that Jesus is REAL -- if even a person who knows so much about Christianity now consider Jesus as unreal how can you be so sure???

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx Jesus is real. You need to stop worrying about semantics and trust holy people the world over to realize this. Do not give in to stupid jewish pressure questioning whether jesus exisats, your own mind and meditation should answer it, not external, retrospective facts. we do not know maybe ancient king existed if you want to see historically with sand dug up evidence; jesus is real trust me, just pray or meditate to his spirit and you'll see.

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch Well, Harry Porter is real, Darth Vader is real, stop worrying about semantics and trust the movie fans the world over to realize this. Do not give in to stupid pressure questioning whether Harry Porter or Darth Vader exisats, your own mind and meditation should answer it, not external, retrospective facts. we do not know maybe ancient king existed if you want to see historically with sand dug up evidence; they're real trust me, just pray or meditate to their spirit and you'll see.

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch (1) to use holy people the world over is appealing to popularity -- I think there are many people believing Darth Vadar existed too (2) I am not Jewish, I am a rationalist (3) You cannot be trusted as much as I don't trust a person claiming he/she can raise people from the dead (4) If you do not know then don't ask me to trust you -- it is cheating

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx i know, and you are not being rational. you need to trust that peoples' ancsestors were not stupid. foolishness is the opposite of wisdom. you must open up your wisdom eye. The appearence of no appearence cannot be seen viually, but cn only be ascertained through the wisdom eye!

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch The peoples' ancsestors were not stupid but they can get it wrong because of lack of knowledge about linguistics, critical textual analysis and archaeology. You idea of "open up wisdom eye" simply just means let your private intuition think what it likes to think, it may as well your wisdom eye will tell you that you should regard your mom as a bitch.

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx wow, so violent. this proves you have a closed wisdom eye. it is in between your forehead. you masturbation is crippling you, so visit happehtheory . com, you dumb homo wanker tight ass.

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch This is not violent but just to show that wisdom eye is just nonsense private intuitions. Your wisdom eye is also between your forehead. you masturbation. Even American and European Biblical scholars are skeptic if Jesus even existed, given their long Christian history -- so how can you be sure that Jesus is real ? Jesus is as real as Harry Porter, Zeus, Venus, Apollo, Thor, Ra, Horos or any deity that human ever dreamed up in many civilizations.

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx be quiet wanker. it is between your brows on your forehead. seriously, if you believe in science you might as well be a crippled wanker.

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch I accept science as something that has proven itself with all kinds of things that lengthens our life expectancy, giving us save water to drink, vaccines, clean food and medicine. I don't believe in science, I accepted science as truth based on the overwhelming evidences it gives, the explanatory powers of its theories, the benefits it provided to improve lives of so many human beings. If you say you don't accept science, next time you are sick don't go to see a doctor or get drugs

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch If you say science is so much inferior to those belief you have, try jumping out of your window the next time you leave your home!

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx well, that is the reason you are stupid. some mortal man might have uttered the word "gravity" but if you believe he invented it then you are a stupid crippled masturbator homo that needs to stop masturbating and do some kung fu and yoga for 10 years while practicing a legitimate religion at the same time. And maybe restore your forskin imbecile, if you have a callous glans or short foreskin that might be why you can't see obvious things.

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch my wisdom eye and heart tells me that your 100,000th grandfather is a worm.... try to disprove me. If you don't think gravity existed or that it is a word utter by mortals you despised then try push your mother off a cliff. hahahaha

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx again with the masturbation induced logic and words. how does it feel that your life is characterized by foolishness? your masturbation is making you crippled. even if you stop you wont heal youtrself 100 percent, and even if you will want to retain your semen you are going to have many nocturnal emissions. you probably live in a country that if you pay a doctor 1000 000 dollars you will not get that straight answer simply because he is stupid and mistaught. -> happehtheory . com.

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch My wisdom eye revealed to me that your head is full of shit.....XDDDDDDDDD

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx WHAT WAS THAT? I CAN'T HYEAR YOU. I AM TALKING TO AN ANIMAL.. "WOOF WOOF"

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch here's your bone and dog biscuit -- my wisdom eye tell me that your mother might also be a dog....XDDDDDD

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx you are the dog not me. 23 years of masturbation is your religious merit.  what kind of religious person succumbs to false teachings? obviously you had a prolonged stint of masturbation and sex. just restore your foreskin and stop masturbating. ...and ill give you a treat.

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch Now you finally admitted that Jesus is no more than a dick ???? XDDDDDDDDD an object of sex ??? XDDDDDDD

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch Can you also explain why Jesus called Jews' sons and dependents of the Devil ? Where in Buddhism can you find this claim ? You only based your arguments and very very allusions of Jesus teachings to Buddhism, and they are NOT all the teachings of Jesus. Jesus told his disciples to hate their parents and family, Jesus told that he is going to bring about war, conflict etc. Jesus teaches that you can pray for anything you wanted....come on -- you don't really know about Christianity

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx oh no - i know and love these quotes. you see, in the west people are not as smart as in the east, they are willing to commit moral sins to get useless junk and prestige. Jews mutilate their sons' penises by cutting the foreskin off, jesus was also a victim of this. so he tells people that once you accept the christ, going against the stupidity and sins of the parents is natural. He is like Venus, while Buddha is like Mercury, closer to the Sun (enlightenment) as a metaphor.

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch quotes are useless as evidence to support the validity of your claims -- they are just as good as Christians speaking in tongues -- you are just believing in fairy tales or believing in Harry Porter and started quoted from it and say "I love these quotes" -- you love of any quotes is no proof and is as silly as saying that the moon is made of green cheese.

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx why do you care that these quote are good. they explain a lot, really the fundamental diference between christianity and buddhism is that the son is the "enemy" of the parents until the parents become good. Secondly, I want to tell you that it is very common for religious people in the Middle East to refer to "Father" as the god one follows. That is why Jews, Muslims, and Christians say to only worship one true Heavenly Father. This way of saying things might not be evident to you

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch If they are NO good -- what good of explanation can they offer? in the Middle East to refer to "Father" as the god one follows because they all stem from the same monotheistic roots.

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx True, but what if they follow wealth making, or sex, or social status, or stupidity and enjoyment, or evil? Isn't it that they are following a lesser god, and therefore they are not the Christ?

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch your "what-ifs" are lame argument - vapid and childish as to argue against the fact that the Earth revolves around the Sun by saying "what-if astronomers wrongly look from the wrong places"...what-ifs of this sort are bullshit

[gingowitch]

@yellowlynx i was making a point. you take me out of context.

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch I am asking for evidences for those claims you made

[gingowitch]

@gingowitch that is why Jesus said to a Jew "Ye are of your Father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderr from the beginning and abode not in the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own for he is a liar and the Father of it."

[yellowlynx]

@gingowitch You only thought that Jesus know about karma and reincarnation -- assuming that all accounts in the Bible is true -- but biblical scholars has shown that all 4 Gospels were composed by people who never met Jesus ,who never lived in Palestine, who is unfamiliar with Jewish customs -- they even went as far as inventing non-existent customs such as release of a prisoner before Passover -- this custom never existed.

[chingchung1998]

Yes,I must admit that Buddhism and Christianity are quite similar, as Jesus devoted his life to preaching the word of God, and the Buddha also do that while he was on Earth, there are facts that Christianity copy other religion's story, so why you will say they are similar cause Christianity is base on copy others.

[yellowlynx]

@chingchung1998 Christianity is only based on prevailing pantheism and certain deity incarnate like Horos, Mythra and a host of them -- mostly dedicated to sun worship by peoples round Mediterranean, Persia.... Buddhism has no Virgin Birth, Baptism, Resurrection etc. but Christian has.

[gingowitch]

@chingchung1998 You know, Jesus studied Buddhism and Hinduism in India and-or Kashmir. That is how he was learned. He was even called "Son of God" by them.

[gingowitch]

internal or immortal? actually buddhism and christianity are similar. Jesus spoke about karma and immortal life aka buddhahood. If they believe in "Christ," as in if they accept or want to accept the Christ (but their karma is too heavy) then they are right, but all in all they would learn a lot from studying buddhism. When Jesus said he died tro forgive your sins, he wanted you not to worry about samsara and karma.

[chingchung1998]

Immortal Body?Buddhist believe Saṃsāra, but Christian believe in if you believe in god, you'll have internal life.(I don't really know how to translate it into English.)One is you must believe so that you may have internal life, but another one, you can chose to Saṃsāra or not.But in the Saṃsāra, people must pay for what they did in their live, but not like Christian, if you believe, you have internal life.

[gingowitch]

@gingowitch ...so that you will just attain a better rebirth, become wise, and attain buddhahood. Karma occurs in the mind, and since when you gaze into your mind, there is nothing there, who is to say you must be punished, and when should one be punished? It is of course still true that you should strictly follow the Ten Precepts of Bodhidharma to remain pure and virtuous. In other words, if you replace the word sin with karma, Christ with Immortal Fetus, etc, Buddhism and Christ are similar.

[gingowitch]

end circumcision! faith and religion are gems of life, do not be stupid china - anti-religionj is a plot by jews to eventually get you circumciased and make you their slaves. marx was a jew.

[gingowitch]

@gingowitch secondly, circumcision is a plot to make your heads small like westerners' heads, so that you are stupid and easy to control.

[chingchung1998]

@gingowitch Sorry,I don't believe in any religion or faith ,and I think they are completely nonsense. And please, we are not stupid,there are facts to convince me that the values in the Bible are wrong. Such as the god create the world in 7days, in my opinion,that is rubbish.

[gingowitch]

@chingchung1998 the old testament says many things, and different cultures have different creation stories - one thing that they have in common is that their ancestors all lived to be 500-1000 years old, and that modern man can only live to about 120 years old in the current age (4 ages total). The Western "Christ" is the same as the Buddhist and Taois "Immortal Body" or Immortal Fetus that you get by mixing the yin and yang energies in your solar plexus in embryonic meditation (mind gazing).

[kickthem]

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[yellowlynx]

@kickthem 字幕是YouTube的功能﹐ 和影片分開。除非我使用特別軟件把字幕加入影片裡面﹐否則只是下­載是拿不到字幕。我有字幕的原始檔案﹐ 但如果你沒有軟件也不可以看到字幕的。