@Charlie1821 Wife and I started last month. It's really not that hard, i think this guy had a shitty instructor. Just remember, RELAX! Arch and relax, no worries. Blue Skies!
that guy is lucky his lines didn't get all twisted up ffs surprised he went up several times after all that spinning i would have said no way after probably the second jump, although to be fair i don't think i would have the balls to do one!! fair play to his persistence!
This is an example on extremely poor instruction and why instructors shouldn't be paid to video. Shame on the instructor and the DZ! This is good student with a common problem that should have been addressed immediately. If the instructor was close by and not worried about the video, this would have been a non-issue. You're skydiver material for sure; amazing situational awareness! In your shoes, most would have forgotten to pull! Hope this hasn't deterred you~ Blue Skies.
Wow omg, yea student needs some work but where the hell was the instructor on those spins? There most def should have been a spin stop. I agree on the line twists as well. Way to try and kill your student!
Shakybones, I agree with you. I watch the AFF videos to learn and to see what can happen if you mess up. One thing I have learned in all the videos I have watched. Arch you're body and relax in the air. You're instructors are there to help and you should completely trust them. I can not wait till April of 2011 to begin my AFF training.
HOLY CRAP! I bet his his lines were twisted like a mutha! Then he spent the rest of the time working out the line twists... I have never seen anyone spin that fast!
This video actually makes me less nervous about doing AFF, because if that guy can fuck up that bad and still survive then I guess there's no reason to be overly worried about it.
One of my students took over 25 jumps to finish AFF....and is now a world class skydiver. Doesn't always work out that way...and skydiving isn't for everyone... but people can surprise you.
we all been there man. fuck, that AFF training can be nerve wracking at times! instructors forever breathing down your neck for every little mistake. they are constantly on your ass to ensure you survive in this sport for the rest of your life ;). once you get your license... hehehe... life is GOOD! (i never forget my instructors. thank them every chance i see them. without them, i ain't shit!)
That's what happens when you are "tense" you have uneven symmetry and because your muscles are tense you spin. If the student relaxes, the symmetry works itself out. If you can't get over that try tapping your toes together.
i really like the way the guy keeps jumping even though his previous jumps havent gone so well. really really brave good stuff to the student and instructor.
lmao thats funny. Aye when the student is spining, isn't the instructor ment to fly underneth him, to create a vacume of air under the student, so he falls onto the instuctor, hence stopping the spin. Happend to my mate when he was doing his aff.
Forget the student mistakes. The instructor needs recurrency training. The instructor gave no help after the student lost control. I counted 24 out of control spins before the student saved his own life. At least the instructor got good video.
Instructors should teach you to correct things with your hands.... no one teaches that. You can literally catch the air and stop a spin with an open hand. Every time i'm about to spin, i catch the air with my hand intuitively
I love watching this since I didn't film my first Level 6 attempt. I looked just like this and of course had a major line twist. But that was cool since I learned how to fix that quick. Thank you posting this!
yeah i used to have the same problems on my skydives...i went to the wind tunnel for 35 minutes total and now i'm flying much better although i still spin a little bit sometimes but i am now able to correct it.
Granted the guy is turning like a top and should not be off AFF at this point, but he is maintaining alti awarness which gives him a lots of points in my book. Looks like he just needs to relax a bit get legs out and toe tap a few times for the spins to correct themselves. When he gets his A I would jump with him. At least he can PULL.
The bad thing is they evidently passed him. Cause they got to the point of letting him jump out on his own even though he couldn't maintain a heading for more than a second. lol What dropzone was this?
He's not a bad student - just needs to learn body position. At least he's aware enough to deploy his canopy when things are going wrong - a lot of people would panic and spin all the way down til their AAD fired .....
- I can't see the mistake in the first scene. What is it?
- I did AFF1 and AFF2 and think about doing the whole course sometimes, it somehow scared me how easily this student sometimes started to spin. What is the reason for this spinning motion in a besides that stable arch, and what's the best reaction to it?
In regards to the spinning: flying in freefall is all about deflecting air. You might be arching as much as you possibly can, but if you're kinking your body at the same time, you're going to turn or spin depending on how asymmetric you are. Notice how he seems to be leaning to the right (or left) like he's stretching, that's what's causing the spinning. That plus he freaks out when he starts spinning and tenses up, which makes his body position even worse.
From what I see the spin was started by him having one leg extended further than the other. A symmetrical body position with a good arch will keep you falling straight and stable. Just keep your shoulders level. If spinning to your left straighten your left leg and bend your right leg. You may have to try turning the opposite direction of the spin because of any momentum you have built up to counter it.
@fenix159 once you initiate a spin you will continue to spin until you cancel it - simple solution of turning the other way, which on the AFF should be done by dropping the shoulder you wish to lead from (ie if you're spinning out of control to the right, drop the left shoulder)
On first "coached" dive after AFF, same instructor told me that once we get out to get awareness, close me eyes, slowly breath in and out while thinking "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast", then slowly re-open my eyes. When re-opened eyes, was as much at rest as laying lazily on a raft in a pool. We did some great flying. That was when FF became "spiritual" instead of an "adrenaline rush" for me. She was great!
I went into the blue-green-blue-green-blue-green washing machine briefly after exit on my 4th AFF jump. Surprisingly, my instructor held on the entire time. I remember seeing her fist in front of my face and then remembering, "OH. Yeah! ARCH!". Was amazed how quickly we became stable again. Rest of the jump went great. Arched so hard on next jump was so rigid that was potato-chipping. Eventually that was worked out.
wooow who is the instructor he should train the student before go up again and never let him tur more the 2 rpm, tha instructor need to be proactive not reactive or even worst let the student spin until he deploy..... bad aff instructor
Student rigs in the US have an AAD, so yes. BUT you can't rely on an AAD to deploy you everytime-too risky, not to mention pricey. WHY did did the instructor let him g? He didn't look ready for aff2 or 3
spinning starts when you are asymmetric. just keep the arch (do NOT spread, the more you arch, the more stable you are), relax and be sure not to keep your arms too close to your body. 90 degrees arms are bad, either is straightened arms. just drop them on a stream and relax. feel yourself symmetric.
OK i need suggestions here! I did 4th jump this Sunday and I was spinning anitclockwise.. really slow but I didnt do any counter action to stop spin.. just tried to relax stretch legs.. didnt help me to stop!
what should be my reaction to get stable quick? I feel I tend to stiffen up or drop left elbow!
- toe taps
- arms back to go forward?
- arms straight or 90 degs?
I assume spreading body and increasing area should slow/stop spinning.. am i rite?
Arch and keep your arms symmetrical. If your legs aren't the issue then I am guessing it's your left arm. But I bet your legs are the issue. That was my biggest issue. If you passed then I would worry about it later cause you are almost done. Focus on the next task and I bet you will work the problem out.
FUK MAN...i never skydived before but when he was spinning round fast that was fucking scary.... once it got too fast the instructor put himself in danger if he went close to help him.
was he doing that on purpose, I obviously don't know much. I jumped once on saturday, it was amazing. I decided to go again, probably alot more before I join the Military.
I simply cannot believe he was jumping a hand deploy pilot chute. At this level and skill he MUST jump a rip cord PC. Deploying unstable with a hand-deploy PC CAN BE FATAL. Allowing this guy to jump this rig is almost homicide.
lol its a good point here in Australia i had to do 5 DRP's 3 of them were with a fake ripcord then and now im still using a ripcord they will not get me to jump a hand pc yet
uh...almost all US dropzones use pilot chutes for AFF. Theres NO point in training with a ripcord if youll be using a pilot chute after 8 jumps. It just increases the chance some poor dumbass wont toss the PC and hang onto it instead like a ripcord.
hes smart not to stop the spin. too dangerous. and suicide aff is going a little too far. practice makes perfect. the guy needs to study his vids and correct that shit.
well yes its true he could have gotten hurt if he tried to stop it. But i think he should have never gotten far away from the student to let that happen. As bad as that guys body position was the instructor should have been holding on to him most of the time.
sorry!! aweful instructor!! why didnt he stop the spin??? why did he progress him?? dont hinder learning but for gods sake! good work student for pulling!!
He forgot the 2 most simple and basic things before leaving the plane. Relax and have fun. and the 3rd. Root the earth. Far from being a suicide jump. He made the right moves under the circumstances
i dont think any of you nay sayers would be in too much of a hurry to track in and stop his spin.......one of the first things they teach is when it comes time to pull, PULL! save your ass, cos i'm outta here!
You guys are way too harsh! I think the instructor did a great job. You try going up with a newbie and rushing him, as he spins out of control. The student knew he couldn't get stable and pulled with plenty of altitude. Good job to him! It's easy to sit in front of your computer and say 'he sucks'. I don't know why this guy put 'suicide' in the title. I've seen worse AFF jumps.
I'm just an A-licensed jumper with 115 jumps, so I make these comments with humility.
First, he shouldn't give up. I had similar stability problems at first (had to repeat Level 3) but eventually relaxed because I kept at it. Spent some time at the tunnels in Eloy and Orlando, and that helped tremendously.
Secondly, I don't fault the instructor. The student was spinning TOO FAST for him to try to stop him--could have caused a fatal collision. He did try when the spinning slowed, however.
can't believe that's a student. if it's genuine then instructor should be shot. maybe he lied on his cv about his instrucor status cos there's not much instruction goin on!
Good lord im with the guy below, time to try another sport before you kill yourself. Dont think the wind tunnel will help, might wanna save your money bro.
Props to the guy for having the balls to keep trying. Those jumps would have scared most people far away from the dropzone in a hurry. He just needs to relax and arch. It comes fast for some and slow for others, if they keep coming back that is.
Needs some time in the wind tunnel for sure... Not sure what the jumpmasters are thinking here... It's like throwing someone in the river to teach them swimming... And yeah - arch a little :)
hmmm.....he needs a lot of work.He is even kicking his legs after the exit to try and get stable. ARCH ARCH ARCH! And when you think you are arching enough, arch harder! It will sort out a lot of probs, he must be dipping a shoulder to get those spins up like that, holy crap! I was waiting for his teeth to fly out!
Didn't he mess up his legs? messed up arms? ..Supposed to do opposite arm leg... he got small and out his column of air...Jump master was telling to look at altimeter(on his left wrist) heel click ... 35oo feet came fast, wow, JM almost got killed trying to pull chute for him. what a mess...
Why the hell was this guy being passed to the next level? I'm sorry to say but I have to blame the instructor on this one. He didn't 'pass' any of those jumps.
The guy did look like he was zoning out each time before he started spinning. I think if you do that this sport is not for you.
Bro if your reading these comments dont feel bad. LOL I failed Lv. 1 cause I forgot to pull!!!, second time I tried I lost 1 of my masters on exit, bad count. When we got to the ground they were all, "We'll at least you werent a danger in the air this time."
Im also sure that with the age of the video you have already passed. So its all gravy.
Yes, these skydives aren't exactly "good" but at least he has the balls to jump from an airplane! He is persistent enough to keep on it and it seems as if he lands on the ground safely! Isn't that ultimately what's most important?
Blue Skies and keep working on it Dude.. it won't be long before you fly with the rest of us!
I'm just an AFF rookie with 11 jumps, but a couple of times that he goes into a spin or on his back, he doesn't even seem to be trying to fix it. But these videos are great, really give me an idea of what I should and shouldn't be doing.
Hmmmm. I wonder if he was dizzy at all? hahahahaha. Did he miss the classes on how to turn and maintain heading? hahaha i hope they didn't graduate him..... sorry if your reading this bro but you need some more work before you should be solo
he´s flyin allone..think he´s at level 4 ....but very turbolent ;-) ...he had many repeat-jumps at this day*** ;-)...and allways level 4.....it wasnt a good day for skydive***
I think its funny...everyone talking about the student being messed up, well the student is only as good as the training he recieved. I AM an AFF-I and there is nothing that cant be fixed with a little time and attention on the ground. I blame this all on the AFF-I, ecpecially whne it comes to the uncontrolled spin, thats one of the first things you are taught during the AFF-I course....how to stop it, and never once did this AFF-I attempts to stop it. Bade instructor in my eyes.
Wow, I'm at a loss for words!
MilesSherry 2 days ago
Should have done a barrel roll.
afordan 1 week ago
I love how you can see the instructor shake his head in disgust at the end. LOL
goldteefgrill 3 weeks ago
Lmao I'm surprised he didn't have a bag lock, or atleast line twists at 3:38
TheSouthJersey 5 months ago
Throw that fucking guy OUT of the program. I never saw worse body position!
TheSouthJersey 5 months ago
kid likes to circle alot :D
TheNoWhuffo 6 months ago in playlist skydiving / BASE / wingsuit
I start my AFF on saturday. Watching this to make sure I DON'T do the same things lol.
Charlie1821 7 months ago
@Charlie1821 Wife and I started last month. It's really not that hard, i think this guy had a shitty instructor. Just remember, RELAX! Arch and relax, no worries. Blue Skies!
LLAGor1lla 7 months ago
that guy is lucky his lines didn't get all twisted up ffs surprised he went up several times after all that spinning i would have said no way after probably the second jump, although to be fair i don't think i would have the balls to do one!! fair play to his persistence!
D4rkMatter1975 7 months ago
That was one disoriented MOFO
amaxi002 8 months ago
3:24 ROFLcopter ftw
Killjoyxtrm 9 months ago
funny shit
breatheasy06 9 months ago
This kid sucks
Elwood350 10 months ago
my god zangief is back
titaniotti 10 months ago
This is an example on extremely poor instruction and why instructors shouldn't be paid to video. Shame on the instructor and the DZ! This is good student with a common problem that should have been addressed immediately. If the instructor was close by and not worried about the video, this would have been a non-issue. You're skydiver material for sure; amazing situational awareness! In your shoes, most would have forgotten to pull! Hope this hasn't deterred you~ Blue Skies.
belan9e5 10 months ago
Wow omg, yea student needs some work but where the hell was the instructor on those spins? There most def should have been a spin stop. I agree on the line twists as well. Way to try and kill your student!
skydivegrl77 10 months ago
Man, what is that? This is a man or a helicopter? The student is very persistent, but the skydive is not for he.
andsongomes 10 months ago
Man, i hope you took up bowling or golf! :)
digitalkicks 11 months ago
Had a few re-jumps eh?
Griffin035 11 months ago
I got dizzy watching that.
ebneter 1 year ago
good alti awareness :-)
jinjatube 1 year ago 2
@jinjatube Ha ha ha ha ha ha :) i guess there's some consolation in that!!
digitalkicks 10 months ago
Shakybones, I agree with you. I watch the AFF videos to learn and to see what can happen if you mess up. One thing I have learned in all the videos I have watched. Arch you're body and relax in the air. You're instructors are there to help and you should completely trust them. I can not wait till April of 2011 to begin my AFF training.
Bambadda 1 year ago
HOLY CRAP! I bet his his lines were twisted like a mutha! Then he spent the rest of the time working out the line twists... I have never seen anyone spin that fast!
dsessom 1 year ago
wow! I'm not even sure i could make my self spin that fast on purpose! haha
justinharker 1 year ago
This video actually makes me less nervous about doing AFF, because if that guy can fuck up that bad and still survive then I guess there's no reason to be overly worried about it.
ShakyBones797 1 year ago
One of my students took over 25 jumps to finish AFF....and is now a world class skydiver. Doesn't always work out that way...and skydiving isn't for everyone... but people can surprise you.
ZLew02 1 year ago
AFF is not for everyone??
tpsossff 1 year ago
we all been there man. fuck, that AFF training can be nerve wracking at times! instructors forever breathing down your neck for every little mistake. they are constantly on your ass to ensure you survive in this sport for the rest of your life ;). once you get your license... hehehe... life is GOOD! (i never forget my instructors. thank them every chance i see them. without them, i ain't shit!)
nipzilla 1 year ago
That student clearly loves clearing line twists
supershinobi223 1 year ago 4
I've seen sheets of plywood fly better.
skydiver626 1 year ago 4
@skydiver626 give him some time.
wirikuta14 1 year ago
That's what happens when you are "tense" you have uneven symmetry and because your muscles are tense you spin. If the student relaxes, the symmetry works itself out. If you can't get over that try tapping your toes together.
cyberkotatsu 1 year ago
i really like the way the guy keeps jumping even though his previous jumps havent gone so well. really really brave good stuff to the student and instructor.
sydneyd00der 1 year ago
Funny as.
benc1978 1 year ago
He must have had really really bad twisters....
ruudguus 1 year ago
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ryzeye09 1 year ago
I bet he got some serious head spins after that
hayleybehrns 1 year ago
lmao thats funny. Aye when the student is spining, isn't the instructor ment to fly underneth him, to create a vacume of air under the student, so he falls onto the instuctor, hence stopping the spin. Happend to my mate when he was doing his aff.
UKmarkj 1 year ago
problem is clear,,, hes keeps looking down,, NO REFERENCE! look straight, lock on and ull do just fine
stelton 1 year ago
Forget the student mistakes. The instructor needs recurrency training. The instructor gave no help after the student lost control. I counted 24 out of control spins before the student saved his own life. At least the instructor got good video.
skydiver5975 1 year ago
at least he deployed...
orbitrix 1 year ago
Instructors should teach you to correct things with your hands.... no one teaches that. You can literally catch the air and stop a spin with an open hand. Every time i'm about to spin, i catch the air with my hand intuitively
reelbattles 1 year ago
dude needs some serious tunnel time to fix that body position, but good alti awareness.
(I think I spotted his problem, his alti hand is fisted all the time, causing his spin in that direction) yes something that small can cause that.
BSoontirfel 1 year ago
What Id like to know is what did the instructor smoke before he/she got on the plane???
chanctonbury63 1 year ago
He just needs to learn body position, he was aware of his altitude, i'm sure there were some line twists, but thats what aff is for right?
billythepandabear 1 year ago
gotta try that sometime real soon not the failing but sky dive itself
YOURGFLOVESME 1 year ago
Credit to you for keeping at it. Looks like Ocana in Spain?
brianroger 1 year ago
at my DZ if the instructor pull's for you, you're done, have a nice day and stick to tandems...
cyberkotatsu 1 year ago
I love watching this since I didn't film my first Level 6 attempt. I looked just like this and of course had a major line twist. But that was cool since I learned how to fix that quick. Thank you posting this!
skiworld8 1 year ago
yeah i used to have the same problems on my skydives...i went to the wind tunnel for 35 minutes total and now i'm flying much better although i still spin a little bit sometimes but i am now able to correct it.
robeert101 1 year ago
Granted the guy is turning like a top and should not be off AFF at this point, but he is maintaining alti awarness which gives him a lots of points in my book. Looks like he just needs to relax a bit get legs out and toe tap a few times for the spins to correct themselves. When he gets his A I would jump with him. At least he can PULL.
kernsmith 1 year ago
The bad thing is they evidently passed him. Cause they got to the point of letting him jump out on his own even though he couldn't maintain a heading for more than a second. lol What dropzone was this?
slipstreambro 2 years ago
I wonder how many line twists he had after opening.
katyu16 2 years ago
Now i know that my aff jumps were ok lol
ts3012 2 years ago
Some people should rather play gholf!
altrisk 2 years ago 2
i really feel bad for that instructor .how many times do you want to be kicked in the face.
noahslag 2 years ago 8
guy is stupid,worst skydiver l ever seen.
AcaNS89 2 years ago
@AcaNS89 now now, we all had to learn. although if I was his instructor theres no way Id be signing him off!
mpr106 2 years ago
He's not a bad student - just needs to learn body position. At least he's aware enough to deploy his canopy when things are going wrong - a lot of people would panic and spin all the way down til their AAD fired .....
Freeflyer91 2 years ago 4
- I can't see the mistake in the first scene. What is it?
- I did AFF1 and AFF2 and think about doing the whole course sometimes, it somehow scared me how easily this student sometimes started to spin. What is the reason for this spinning motion in a besides that stable arch, and what's the best reaction to it?
fenix159 2 years ago
I think in the first one, he's just not responding what so ever to the signal given to him.
jetteflat 2 years ago
In regards to the spinning: flying in freefall is all about deflecting air. You might be arching as much as you possibly can, but if you're kinking your body at the same time, you're going to turn or spin depending on how asymmetric you are. Notice how he seems to be leaning to the right (or left) like he's stretching, that's what's causing the spinning. That plus he freaks out when he starts spinning and tenses up, which makes his body position even worse.
jetteflat 2 years ago 5
From what I see the spin was started by him having one leg extended further than the other. A symmetrical body position with a good arch will keep you falling straight and stable. Just keep your shoulders level. If spinning to your left straighten your left leg and bend your right leg. You may have to try turning the opposite direction of the spin because of any momentum you have built up to counter it.
Skydvr74 2 years ago
@fenix159 once you initiate a spin you will continue to spin until you cancel it - simple solution of turning the other way, which on the AFF should be done by dropping the shoulder you wish to lead from (ie if you're spinning out of control to the right, drop the left shoulder)
mpr106 2 years ago
@mpr106 i agree but also have them look left as well....
ZBUR23 1 year ago
@ZBUR23 good shout
mpr106 1 year ago
ya, what's wrong with BOC's for students? I pulled mine [on time] on my very first AFF...
b0bjones 2 years ago
On first "coached" dive after AFF, same instructor told me that once we get out to get awareness, close me eyes, slowly breath in and out while thinking "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast", then slowly re-open my eyes. When re-opened eyes, was as much at rest as laying lazily on a raft in a pool. We did some great flying. That was when FF became "spiritual" instead of an "adrenaline rush" for me. She was great!
77artpunk 2 years ago
I went into the blue-green-blue-green-blue-green washing machine briefly after exit on my 4th AFF jump. Surprisingly, my instructor held on the entire time. I remember seeing her fist in front of my face and then remembering, "OH. Yeah! ARCH!". Was amazed how quickly we became stable again. Rest of the jump went great. Arched so hard on next jump was so rigid that was potato-chipping. Eventually that was worked out.
77artpunk 2 years ago
this dude needs to learn to arch. He also needs some tunnel time to teach him body control in free fall.
virtualcontext 2 years ago
I have just one question, and it is for AFF instructor:
"WHAT IDIOT YOU HAVE TO BE TO USE A RIG EQUIPPED WITH THROW OUT PILOT CHUTE FOR AFF JUMPS, SPECIALLY FOR A STUDENT LIKE THIS?????"
dpecnik 2 years ago
I used hand deploy on my AFF jumps, nothing wrong with it.
toobshmoob 2 years ago
lol, this student looks like total idiot... kicking with his legs like a fool - no arch, no thinking about skydive, thanx god, he opened canopy
l0lkie 2 years ago
lmao i love how you added more of the song HAHAHA.. great vid.. i can't wait to start doing this
joshthegoth 2 years ago
wooow who is the instructor he should train the student before go up again and never let him tur more the 2 rpm, tha instructor need to be proactive not reactive or even worst let the student spin until he deploy..... bad aff instructor
rsumano 2 years ago 3
wow. JUST ARCH ARCH ARCH ARCH ARCH i want to smack him
drinkfightandphuck 2 years ago
please someone tell me what was wrong in that....why he kept on spinnin' around?
i have my AFF next week!! and i'm freaking out!!!
thebigdumbhamster 2 years ago
Alright, if guy had passed out would there be any auto deploy based on the altitude or its just plain ketchup on the ground?
shravanj85 2 years ago
Student rigs in the US have an AAD, so yes. BUT you can't rely on an AAD to deploy you everytime-too risky, not to mention pricey. WHY did did the instructor let him g? He didn't look ready for aff2 or 3
txlittlestar 2 years ago
how did he even get to that level where he's not held by the instuctor..
drumatic86 2 years ago
lol all he has to do is ARCH haha then there is no problem but if you twist and turn and kick with your legs you gonna be like this guy lol hahahaa
WorldTaskForce 2 years ago
Wow. I'd imagine some instructors would be like, "Fuck no, dude, you're not jumping at my DZ again."
YukonTrooper 2 years ago 2
ohh, line twists for show
tomeucker 2 years ago
Did anyone tell him what makes a body spin while it is in freefall? It sounds like he had to figure it out by himself! Weird!
rblf1234 2 years ago
I was thinking the same thing. Was he instructed on spins and stopping them or did he just not listen.
av8rdav 2 years ago
how the fuck this guy stay conscious after spinning for so many rounds... LOLL
hope the next video shows he pass out in the air!!
ripeme 2 years ago
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kmfreefly 2 years ago
looks like ocana near madrid
petehuskins 2 years ago
Maybe you should take up bowling...
rivetgeek 2 years ago 2
I'm starting to think you just like to spin.
ptarmey 2 years ago
3:30 is really funny
stormandin 2 years ago
OMg what a retarded kid
stormandin 2 years ago
LOL
suicidalfish 2 years ago
This can't be in the US, can it?
davidenete 2 years ago
It is in Ocana, Spain.
toobshmoob 2 years ago
Poor leg awareness and weak arch, push those hip forward!
SkyDoginthetube 2 years ago
well done for carying on and for posting - watching that is useful
alun101 2 years ago
Two words.. Tunnel time!
themixlife 2 years ago
he is break dancing
mercrod 2 years ago
spinning starts when you are asymmetric. just keep the arch (do NOT spread, the more you arch, the more stable you are), relax and be sure not to keep your arms too close to your body. 90 degrees arms are bad, either is straightened arms. just drop them on a stream and relax. feel yourself symmetric.
Joan60s 2 years ago
OK i need suggestions here! I did 4th jump this Sunday and I was spinning anitclockwise.. really slow but I didnt do any counter action to stop spin.. just tried to relax stretch legs.. didnt help me to stop!
what should be my reaction to get stable quick? I feel I tend to stiffen up or drop left elbow!
- toe taps
- arms back to go forward?
- arms straight or 90 degs?
I assume spreading body and increasing area should slow/stop spinning.. am i rite?
jaykavathe 2 years ago
Arch and keep your arms symmetrical. If your legs aren't the issue then I am guessing it's your left arm. But I bet your legs are the issue. That was my biggest issue. If you passed then I would worry about it later cause you are almost done. Focus on the next task and I bet you will work the problem out.
slipstreambro 2 years ago
Rofl at you spinning, im suprised when u pulled spinning like that. that was like a 50/50 getting tangled.
BluuSkyz 2 years ago
FUK MAN...i never skydived before but when he was spinning round fast that was fucking scary.... once it got too fast the instructor put himself in danger if he went close to help him.
jammy41 2 years ago
was he doing that on purpose, I obviously don't know much. I jumped once on saturday, it was amazing. I decided to go again, probably alot more before I join the Military.
It was amazing.
dated9119 2 years ago
I simply cannot believe he was jumping a hand deploy pilot chute. At this level and skill he MUST jump a rip cord PC. Deploying unstable with a hand-deploy PC CAN BE FATAL. Allowing this guy to jump this rig is almost homicide.
ronaldonogueira74 2 years ago
lol its a good point here in Australia i had to do 5 DRP's 3 of them were with a fake ripcord then and now im still using a ripcord they will not get me to jump a hand pc yet
joshbanford 2 years ago
If he cant get stable enough to deploy on his own. The instructor shouldn't have let go of him and deployed for him.
justinharker 2 years ago
uh...almost all US dropzones use pilot chutes for AFF. Theres NO point in training with a ripcord if youll be using a pilot chute after 8 jumps. It just increases the chance some poor dumbass wont toss the PC and hang onto it instead like a ripcord.
rivetgeek 2 years ago
why is he allowed to exit solo..... unless he has been taught again on the ground to correct his postion and just keeps making a cock of things
mcbawsack 2 years ago
he didn't even suppose to be allowed to change the level. i wonder what a stupid man instructed him...
Joan60s 2 years ago
at least he'll be very experienced with line twists
cjh329 2 years ago 4
lol :>
Werchtakrimm 2 years ago
megalol
Sanksion 2 years ago
Go play chess if you can't stop spinning like that
Detlef71 2 years ago 2
hes smart not to stop the spin. too dangerous. and suicide aff is going a little too far. practice makes perfect. the guy needs to study his vids and correct that shit.
imadumbass0691 2 years ago
well yes its true he could have gotten hurt if he tried to stop it. But i think he should have never gotten far away from the student to let that happen. As bad as that guys body position was the instructor should have been holding on to him most of the time.
justinharker 2 years ago
sorry!! aweful instructor!! why didnt he stop the spin??? why did he progress him?? dont hinder learning but for gods sake! good work student for pulling!!
petehuskins 2 years ago
what's the name of the song?
AlexAza27 2 years ago
System of a Down - Chop suye
SquadRus 2 years ago
jesus...give up...
suprhwk 2 years ago
He forgot the 2 most simple and basic things before leaving the plane. Relax and have fun. and the 3rd. Root the earth. Far from being a suicide jump. He made the right moves under the circumstances
bloodline1488 2 years ago
i dont think any of you nay sayers would be in too much of a hurry to track in and stop his spin.......one of the first things they teach is when it comes time to pull, PULL! save your ass, cos i'm outta here!
WingAce5 3 years ago
He pu;;ed more times than he didn't, so there's that...
kailesback 3 years ago
You guys are way too harsh! I think the instructor did a great job. You try going up with a newbie and rushing him, as he spins out of control. The student knew he couldn't get stable and pulled with plenty of altitude. Good job to him! It's easy to sit in front of your computer and say 'he sucks'. I don't know why this guy put 'suicide' in the title. I've seen worse AFF jumps.
cameraflyer 3 years ago
Instructor needs to pick up bowling. Obviously he cant skydive.
nicmendez81 3 years ago
I'm just an A-licensed jumper with 115 jumps, so I make these comments with humility.
First, he shouldn't give up. I had similar stability problems at first (had to repeat Level 3) but eventually relaxed because I kept at it. Spent some time at the tunnels in Eloy and Orlando, and that helped tremendously.
Secondly, I don't fault the instructor. The student was spinning TOO FAST for him to try to stop him--could have caused a fatal collision. He did try when the spinning slowed, however.
mattyblast 3 years ago
And his instructor just watches the show....
raween 3 years ago
Seriously man ARCH YOUR BACK!!!!!!!
And some tunnel time couldn't hurt. Get about 30 min under your belt before you even step foot in a plane again.
But you got backflying down so you'll be a good freeflyer....... maybe
Colingoesfast 3 years ago 2
Or a good briefing before the exit...?
raween 3 years ago
True. His instructor should be fired since he didnt help at all.
Colingoesfast 3 years ago
Altitude arch legs relax, its really not all that hard. lightly drop the other arm to stop the spin and RELAX damn hes like a potato chip.
andrewtbox 3 years ago
lol that fits perfectly to what i was trying to say
1Sh0t1K1llSNipEr4Evr 3 years ago
can't believe that's a student. if it's genuine then instructor should be shot. maybe he lied on his cv about his instrucor status cos there's not much instruction goin on!
hotrocks36 3 years ago
Love the way during the flat spins his AFFI jus sat and watched, twist must have been mega wen he dumped.
On the plus side, if he gets off aff then he will prob be a monster freeflyer, hes got backflying down already!
brucey3214 3 years ago
ARCH!!! doesn't seem like your trying to correct the spin at all. you have to counter steer man. good luck
mitsuman95 3 years ago
Good lord im with the guy below, time to try another sport before you kill yourself. Dont think the wind tunnel will help, might wanna save your money bro.
sunburnedbuns 3 years ago
Haha. He likes those flat spins. :-)
moolikeacow2 3 years ago
do we really need that crappy music?
poparthur 3 years ago
Props to the guy for having the balls to keep trying. Those jumps would have scared most people far away from the dropzone in a hurry. He just needs to relax and arch. It comes fast for some and slow for others, if they keep coming back that is.
sharp357 3 years ago
Needs some time in the wind tunnel for sure... Not sure what the jumpmasters are thinking here... It's like throwing someone in the river to teach them swimming... And yeah - arch a little :)
russiarulezz 3 years ago
looooooool 3:16 ur jumpmasters gave up on u,
leshark 3 years ago
Dude, you might want to consider golf or something.
Your poor jumpmasters....
patrik667 3 years ago
hmmm.....he needs a lot of work.He is even kicking his legs after the exit to try and get stable. ARCH ARCH ARCH! And when you think you are arching enough, arch harder! It will sort out a lot of probs, he must be dipping a shoulder to get those spins up like that, holy crap! I was waiting for his teeth to fly out!
daleeIIiott 3 years ago
Why the hell are they still letting him jump? He could easily have gotten either himself or the instructor killed. Blech..
merpette 3 years ago
cant believe the student has the guts to go back up and they let him lol
Jesusthemiraclebaby 3 years ago
Maybe his just born with an asymmetric body =)
enurhl 3 years ago 2
fucking hell man this is skydive ocana!! i was there this morning!! and i jumped that exact rig!!
i passed my aff failing 1 level but man he is really bad when he spins it looks like hes a goner! mibi skydiving isnt for him
must hav had a crazy amount of twists on that pull
timbojj 3 years ago
Didn't he mess up his legs? messed up arms? ..Supposed to do opposite arm leg... he got small and out his column of air...Jump master was telling to look at altimeter(on his left wrist) heel click ... 35oo feet came fast, wow, JM almost got killed trying to pull chute for him. what a mess...
Rainy64 3 years ago
i dont get it, he spun around too much?? huh?
Meonly70 3 years ago
morreu
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leonardozb 3 years ago
Why the hell was this guy being passed to the next level? I'm sorry to say but I have to blame the instructor on this one. He didn't 'pass' any of those jumps.
The guy did look like he was zoning out each time before he started spinning. I think if you do that this sport is not for you.
Meltdown16 3 years ago
What a dumbshit, shouldnt take you that many to get it, just ARCH! you wont flip over, and make sure you are even with legs and arms
leaderoftheteam 3 years ago
FOTFLMAS.. I think thats right. prob not but still funny.
live1cryptic 3 years ago
i dont get it lol i just like the song
kingarturo9 3 years ago
If you start to spin really fast like that, aren't you just supposed to arch all you can to stop the spin?
zwumpuklen 3 years ago
your supposed to arch and try to turn in the opposite direction your spinning
Falllouboydaoc 3 years ago
ya, arching won't help you stop spinning.
Kopihucky 3 years ago
Bro if your reading these comments dont feel bad. LOL I failed Lv. 1 cause I forgot to pull!!!, second time I tried I lost 1 of my masters on exit, bad count. When we got to the ground they were all, "We'll at least you werent a danger in the air this time."
Im also sure that with the age of the video you have already passed. So its all gravy.
live1cryptic 3 years ago
Excuse me, I meant Accelerated Free Fall - I mispoke.
pingletonsb 3 years ago
whats the meaning of AFF? or what du people mean when they say AFF5 ?
aikidoka20 3 years ago
AFF = Advanced Free Fall. There are levels you have to complete before you can jump solo, ranging from 7-11 I believe.
pingletonsb 3 years ago
ah ty :-)
aikidoka20 3 years ago
Wrong, it's called Accelerated Free Fall.
fgdazzo 3 years ago
Yes, these skydives aren't exactly "good" but at least he has the balls to jump from an airplane! He is persistent enough to keep on it and it seems as if he lands on the ground safely! Isn't that ultimately what's most important?
Blue Skies and keep working on it Dude.. it won't be long before you fly with the rest of us!
ScuttleProductions 3 years ago
I'm just an AFF rookie with 11 jumps, but a couple of times that he goes into a spin or on his back, he doesn't even seem to be trying to fix it. But these videos are great, really give me an idea of what I should and shouldn't be doing.
rslady76 3 years ago
who let him jump on soft meduse?
venomishe 3 years ago
loooooooooooooool xD xD xD
Why he passed his level (i saw him doing a Delta), his spinning as hell but they let him passed :S
TheMr400 3 years ago
Hmmmm. I wonder if he was dizzy at all? hahahahaha. Did he miss the classes on how to turn and maintain heading? hahaha i hope they didn't graduate him..... sorry if your reading this bro but you need some more work before you should be solo
572rlgd 3 years ago
I wonder how bad the twist was after the pull at 3:38.
Hope this guy figured out his shit and finished his course.
crazymxrider 3 years ago
Cameraman saved him... nice
PCXPBOY 3 years ago
How many levels do you think this guy had to repeat?
ipissexcellence75 3 years ago
he´s flyin allone..think he´s at level 4 ....but very turbolent ;-) ...he had many repeat-jumps at this day*** ;-)...and allways level 4.....it wasnt a good day for skydive***
redred4star 3 years ago
learn 2 arch
Sirlobo2 3 years ago
hahaha tunnel time fuck off..
just needs a better instructor....and he shouldve had 2 aff instructors with him not 1..
im sure hes got it now....
and if he hasnt..
ARCH UR F***ING BACK DUMBASS
aaabbbeeedddkkkttt 3 years ago
jesus christ. how many jumps in did this guy need to figure out you ARCH YOUR BACK!!!!
copperie 3 years ago
you don't arch your back, you arch from the hips. but i guess even arching from the back is better than nothing lol
andrewtbox 3 years ago
um.....arch....
9177124 3 years ago
Isn't that at the Freefall University?
zwumpuklen 3 years ago
I think its funny...everyone talking about the student being messed up, well the student is only as good as the training he recieved. I AM an AFF-I and there is nothing that cant be fixed with a little time and attention on the ground. I blame this all on the AFF-I, ecpecially whne it comes to the uncontrolled spin, thats one of the first things you are taught during the AFF-I course....how to stop it, and never once did this AFF-I attempts to stop it. Bade instructor in my eyes.
jrock2697 3 years ago