@mitchellfamilyof4 And they're proud of it. When you thought Bush was the worst, they give you Rick Perry. The Evangelical redistricting is a killer for that state.
My guess he lost Texas the second he was nominated as he was to liberal for that state and there was no way he would would win unless he was running against someone even more liberal then he is..
@bornbillsmith Being liberal hasn't got a lot to do with it. Texas doesn't vote for Democrats at the statewide level, and while that may change in the next several years, when this episode was aired it was even more true. Bartlett lost Texas when Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Acts of 1964 and 1965.
@bornbillsmith Since when was Kennedy afraid of being heckled? You do remember he was shot in Dallas, right? Also, the Senate is part of Congress, so saying someone was both a Congressman and a Senator is redundant. Even in all caps.
@bornbillsmith No. A person elected to the Senate is a Senator. A person elected to the House of Representatives is a Representative. Either can accurately be called a Congressman, since both the House and the Senate are part of Congress. You are utterly and completely incorrect. Also, please cite your claim about Kennedy, because I have never heard of this before.
A Senator can also be called a representative as they are elected to represent you..
So you have proved nothing.
A Congressman if you take the time to look it up is a member of congress but it especially applies to the House of Representatives and therefore when it is used it is understood that way..
I don't remember where I know it from.
I'll try to find something but it was a long time ago and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't even know where to start.
@bornbillsmith Almost. You're partly correct, but you're confusing forms of direct _address_ vs. descriptive terms at some points.
It's absolutely true that, in current convention, Senators are addressed as "Senator Blank" while Representatives are addressed as "Congressman So-and-so". However, when speaking descriptively, saying someone is "a Congressman" is ambiguous — it doesn't imply the House, and "a Congressman and a Senator" does appear redundant. (Not that it's a BFD.)
@KJamesB It had Democratic majorities in the legislature and House delegation until 2003, yes, but Carter was the last Democrat to win it in a presidential election.
Bartlet lost Texas in the Democratic primary because his opponent was a very popular Senator from Texas, John Hoynes. But even putting Hoynes on the ticket wasn't enough to swing the state for him in the November election.
He lost Texas when Santa Anna decided to stop at the Alamo and not reclaim all of it as a place NOT for rednecks who believed in white supremacy.
UncleMikeNJ 2 months ago
Texans should be offended by this clip, but as we all know, they're too stupid to realize it.
mitchellfamilyof4 2 months ago 2
@mitchellfamilyof4 And they're proud of it. When you thought Bush was the worst, they give you Rick Perry. The Evangelical redistricting is a killer for that state.
KJamesB 2 weeks ago
0:42 - Bartlett takes off his glasses
0:44 - Glasses are on face
0:46 - Glasses are off face and nowhere to be seen
MrGrinningManiac 3 months ago 19
@MrGrinningManiac he is Bartlet - he can get away with that :)
bsgtrekfan88 1 week ago
@MrGrinningManiac Sam's glasses appear during that bit also.
r34p3rl1v3 1 week ago
@r34p3rl1v3 O_O cannot unsee!
MrGrinningManiac 6 days ago
"CJ on your tombstone it's gonna read 'Post Hoc Ergo, Proctor Hoc'"
"Okay but none of my visitors are going to understand my tombstone"
LOL, gets me everytime.
4thepeeps1 4 months ago 9
My guess he lost Texas the second he was nominated as he was to liberal for that state and there was no way he would would win unless he was running against someone even more liberal then he is..
bornbillsmith 4 months ago 2
@bornbillsmith Being liberal hasn't got a lot to do with it. Texas doesn't vote for Democrats at the statewide level, and while that may change in the next several years, when this episode was aired it was even more true. Bartlett lost Texas when Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Acts of 1964 and 1965.
timmyhkvt 3 weeks ago
@timmyhkvt Kennedy didn't want to go to Texas because he was afraid of being heckled.
This was before LBJ WHO BY THE WAY WAS BOTH A CONGRESSMAN AND SENATOR from the state of Texas signed the Civil Rights Acts.
bornbillsmith 3 weeks ago
@bornbillsmith Since when was Kennedy afraid of being heckled? You do remember he was shot in Dallas, right? Also, the Senate is part of Congress, so saying someone was both a Congressman and a Senator is redundant. Even in all caps.
timmyhkvt 2 weeks ago
@timmyhkvt
A person elected to the Senate is a Senator
A person elected to the House of Representatives is a Congressman.
I can't believe you would be so asinine to correct me on something so trivial and on top of that be so wrong.
I was 12 and I remember where I was and what I was doing.
JFK was afraid that the KKK and the JBS would demonstrate against him and embarrass him and the country.
I
bornbillsmith 2 weeks ago
@bornbillsmith I believe because he didn't want to look chicken riding in his own country he decided to ride in an open car instead of one with a top,
Amazing how a little decision like that one actually changed world history.
If he was in a closed car with a bullet proof roof he would not have been hit
and would have been a great President.
bornbillsmith 2 weeks ago
@bornbillsmith No. A person elected to the Senate is a Senator. A person elected to the House of Representatives is a Representative. Either can accurately be called a Congressman, since both the House and the Senate are part of Congress. You are utterly and completely incorrect. Also, please cite your claim about Kennedy, because I have never heard of this before.
timmyhkvt 2 weeks ago
@timmyhkvt
Look it up.
A Senator can also be called a representative as they are elected to represent you..
So you have proved nothing.
A Congressman if you take the time to look it up is a member of congress but it especially applies to the House of Representatives and therefore when it is used it is understood that way..
I don't remember where I know it from.
I'll try to find something but it was a long time ago and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't even know where to start.
bornbillsmith 2 weeks ago
@bornbillsmith Almost. You're partly correct, but you're confusing forms of direct _address_ vs. descriptive terms at some points.
It's absolutely true that, in current convention, Senators are addressed as "Senator Blank" while Representatives are addressed as "Congressman So-and-so". However, when speaking descriptively, saying someone is "a Congressman" is ambiguous — it doesn't imply the House, and "a Congressman and a Senator" does appear redundant. (Not that it's a BFD.)
ferd617 2 weeks ago
@timmyhkvt Texas was Democratic for a long time - then the Republicans Redistricted to favor them.
KJamesB 2 weeks ago
@KJamesB It had Democratic majorities in the legislature and House delegation until 2003, yes, but Carter was the last Democrat to win it in a presidential election.
timmyhkvt 2 weeks ago
Bartlet lost Texas in the Democratic primary because his opponent was a very popular Senator from Texas, John Hoynes. But even putting Hoynes on the ticket wasn't enough to swing the state for him in the November election.
observer9670 4 months ago