How do we know GIIvideo is deluded

[spakattak]

Gravity? Worst example ever. Since the fundamental forces, including gravity, came into existence mere moments after the creation of the universe 14 billion years ago, i'm pretty sure that in a mere 200 years , they will still apply exactly the same. Have to agree with another comment from Shreddez, all responses to GII video are pathetic.

[DivineTruthRedeemed]

You had some good points regarding GII's biased argument.

Saying all Christians are delusional and that they need to be discarded because their delusion is hurting us as a species is equal to saying that all Americans are arrogant fat pigs that cause all of the world's problems. The sad thing is the rest of the world actually believes that. However, you were wrong about atheism being a delusion bubble. Most atheists are decent people, which is more than I can say for people who say these lies.

[AnemosThrowback]

And you can't put atheists in "delusion bubbles." The bubbles are by definition religions. Atheism isn't a religion--it's a lack of belief in god(s). Atheists don't believe in fairy tales like religions since there's no evidence to support them (don't get me started on the bogus "holy relic" excuse--they're all fakes used for tourist attractions. If every alleged splinter of the cross found was real, for example, there'd be enough to build a rain forrest).

[AnemosThrowback]

"No evidence doesn't always equal DIDN'T HAPPEN"? You're saying that an event can occur without any evidence that it occurred?

Okay. I just walked into your room and punched you in the face, and then I wrote a book about it. You didn't see me or hear me at any point during the event, you know that you're the only person in your room, and you didn't feel me punch you. The evidence shows that I didn't punch you but I insist that I did--after all, I have a book that says it happened, so I'm right!

[supercow749]

I am pretty sure that is plagiarism using the definition of delusion without citing or crediting the source.

[theunforgivn81]

Sorry, but unless and until evidence is provided to show that an idea is true, then it is perfectly rational to conclude that an idea is false due to lack of evidence.

The default position regarding any idea is disbelief. We only believe once that belief has been justified.

[lovegoddessterri]

where you high or drunk when u did this video that was awful >:#

[shreddez]

Sorry bro, that was awful

[shreddez]

How come rebuttal to G.I.I. videos is done so horribly and makes no sense whatsoever. Seriously, every single video done in response to his videos is awful.

Hmmm. I wonder why that is?

[extape]

Atheism isn't a thing you fucking idiot. It's simply a word to state a lack of belief in any god(s).

[Hardglass52]

This is the most idiotic video ever.

Atheism isn't a religion, its not a group, like you treat it. Atheists is just people who don't believe in godly entities. how is that delusional?

[ivorbigun20]

but disagreeing and acting irrationally (like posting angry comments) are two completely different things. like saying "its bad enough your a Christian". this person is fighting for what he believes and i respect him for it. those who believe in a religion are not delusional. the ones who want to change the beliefs of other and in turn effecting there lives are the delusional ones. people who act like this cause wars and problems in society for example hitler diden't agree with the jewish.think

[ivorbigun20]

i honestly cant believe i am seeing such hateful comments to this person just trying to make a point. simply put i am shocked. now i don't believe in a religion but when you look at life guess what WHAT YOU BELIVE DOES NOT MATTER. if you are a person who lives his/her life as well as he/she can for that person and those around them then you are a good person. if the world acted upon this then there would be harmony. but no two people think alike so we get those who disagree

[subnetme]

Dude can you be even more monotonic? Besides being a stupid Christian?

[1stoic1]

The delusions of those who are diagnosed as being delusional have not necessarily been proven false either (ie communicating with pixies). One is delusional simply by applying irrational beliefs to their worldview, which means that atheism is inapplicable.

Theism has no substantial evidentiary support, therefore it is an irrational existential proposition which would make one delusional if upheld.

[CACBCCCU]

Atheism is the delusion of seeing no need to keep powerful psychotic people in check by reinforcing their delusional notions.

[theRESPONDENT]

I know what delusion is retard, and i watched the whole video again (just for you) and i used it correctly

If you wanna tell me an Logic error in this video please do so

otherwise you can just go an quit youtube and hangyourself you miserable fuck if you gonna be keep going at this slow rate

[TETSUno1]

You're joking, right?

delusion =/= false

delusion = false belief

You seem to have mistaken the colloquial use of "false" as the first order logic truth value "false". Seriously, try M-W, their online dictionary is pretty good.

And btw... just because you say so, doesn't make it true, therefore the first logical error in the video is; bare assertion fallacy in your example; which also appears to be a false dichotomy.

Oh, and first order logic can't be used in the manner you attempt.

[theRESPONDENT]

Okay for arguements sake i did check merriam webster definition. When they state "false belief" they really mean false. You can go an check GIIvideo, he hasnt proven real evidentically his statements. You know like when you see sun is really a star and fundementally hasnt any supernatural effect on universe. Since christian God is so undefined its harder.

"just because you say so.." Dont play with words please i dont say so i follow the definitions and the actions and make a conclusion

[TETSUno1]

*sigh*

What I wanted you to see is how it's defined there; you're assuming that the definition is a belief with the truth value 0 (as in "false"), when in fact "false belief" isn't in this use a propositional logic truth statement.

The structure is pretty clear (even on your choice of dictionary) delusion = false belief = belief that goes against evidence, it's basically an equivalence statement, not a truth value statement.

[theRESPONDENT]

So you say delusion is a belief that some belief are false? You lost me big time Lol

Basically what im trying to say here that GIIvideo is making statements without real scientific logic whatever reasoning on that video. no evidence = False magical = fairytale "If you are an intelligent person.." This is skeptical thinking and not really logical

So if you make statements without REAL support you have sorta of a new belief. When he calls them delusion i throw it back at him

[theRESPONDENT]

If GIIvideo is making a statement without any true logic, and since christians God is supernatural it makes it impossible to say anything to contradict with that (Remember you have to prove it) He is using skeptical thinking and not reasoning. Therefore just as same statement (statement without reasoning that whole christian theory is fale) however i can see how that wouldnt make his belief false (delusional) but since he is calling them delusional i just call him back delusional

[SmogFX]

I'm just going to ssay here, i haven't watched your video, but skeptical thinking is a form of logical thinking... Science needs skeptics so that when a theory is proven wrong with strong evidence, we may learn from it. And i think when you say "new beleif" you mean to say faith. Belief without evidence. At least atheism has a form of logic thinking and evidence based theories. Theism does not, in no way is religion even compared with science. Well i just blabed on for a bit lol.

[theRESPONDENT]

Atheism is skeptical thinking. Solving a rubik cube is logical thinking. When you turn layers you know exactly where L prime right will be when you turned it. However there is none of this true logic in atheism. If there is please show me one. Until then its still a uncertain belief based on skepticism which i wouldnt account for

[SmogFX]

Atheism embraces reality through evidence, logic, science and skeptisism. But you mentioned true logic, care to explain? Does a deity have true logic or any religion? There is nothing wrong with skeptical thinking, it is how we develope through this world. Tell me why do you think skeptisism is bad? And why do you need true logic to be an theist, what gave you the impression of that?

[theRESPONDENT]

part 1

True logic or really just logic is method of using rules. 5+3=8 now if i go backwards 8-3= ? I expect to see 5 because the first math problem gave me that rule. When i mean logic i mean specific logic (or true) skepticism or the doubting, just because it doesnt seem right isnt really "true logic" its just doubting what may be reality

I need logic to prove every point, because i found this really efficient rather than faith. Faith is really accepting what may not be reality

[nogogma]

Faith is believing in things the intellect has already rationally confirmed cannot possibly be based on fact and reality but believing it anyway. Yes this form of faith (superstitious faith) is very harmful and dangerous.

[theRESPONDENT]

As for atheism i havn't seen any real reasoning other than reality of my point of view of this universe. And I havn't seen any evidence or logic that says this is a true statement "there is no God". If there is please update me about it. Until than i see it as an uncertain statement

[SmogFX]

I think it is very irrational to base your perception of reality on this labeled true logic. I'm very interested as to how you evaluate whether or not something exists. How do you know that i exist? What rules and true logic do you use? At what point will that statement "there is no god" will be true to you? If something doesn't exist, what is the evidence of it's non-existence? Are you also uncertain about the statement "There is a god".

[theRESPONDENT]

I evaluate with my senses and rules (depends)

I dont know if you exists, you may be a software bot for all i guess, however common sense works in handy too...sometimes

All omncient view of the universe determines truly whether somethign does or not exist, same as if it is

Of course there is uncertain conclusion if there is a God. How ever through my observation of time and logic i cannot explain the value of time (beginning) please watch "Logic on infintive time" therefore God did it =P

[joshTheGoods]

You reasoning is extremely irrational. You've basically just stated that if you cannot come up with an answer for something then "God did it." I hope your definition of God is "the unknown" otherwise you're just making the same tired "God of the gaps" argument. I believe in my message to you I showed why that line of reasoning is a mistake. I'm still waiting on a response to my logical argument for the non-existence of God! Everyone with any brains knows God cannot be proven, so drop that angle.

[theRESPONDENT]

Thats last comment of mine was a joke....

Besides i sent you a letter, and please dont be close minded and look over my arguements for infinitive timeline. People with true logical sense would never claim that "God cannnot be proven" unless its self contradicting to universes true laws. But there is no way you cant determine universe is only by certanity so would making any statement beyond your senses is irrational to me

[indignant99]

This is great! You flamingly uneducated twit. You don't know the definition of "delusion." And brother, you got it in royal spades.

Further uneducation - misspellings and bad grammar galore. Go hide. You're a disgrace.

[TETSUno1]

Makes for a nice screen capture tho ;)