I am a devout Catholic Christian. That said, on the fundamental point of believing in God, desiring an intimate relationship with him and wanting to share that with the community, I think Islam is bieutiful. I have problems with aspects in it, but its important not to simply read a verse in the Qu'ran but rather read the authoritative eccleastical bodies and their traditions, interpretations and teachings. My question to Muslims. Do you believe man is made in the image of God? God bless.
@zzzak123 Hi thnx for asking us about our faith and also its faith of all the prophets. here is the Answer The Noble Quran, Verse 42:11 says that "Allah is the creator of the heavens and the earth and there is nothing like him"
impossible, Allah has not physically appearance, so man cannot be in the image of God. For muslim people Jesus (Issa in the qur'an) is a real prophet but not the son of God Who has no family, no other forms than Him. He just communicate his speech to Muhammad (saw) to give it to man.
That are the major disagreements between christian religion and islam, which are in the end no so different.
@zzzak123 Good evening to you. I appreciate your reconciling comment. I am a Moslem and I had debates with friends that are Christian about this but never managed to understand what they mean by image. Since we don't know in a materialistic way how God is, how he looks like, or even if human eyes could embrace his reflection I can't really assert we made in his image do you feel me? I just believe that the Creator can't look like his creature. Computers are created but don't look like us. Peace.
@LePtitSudiste Faux! Le Grand-Père de cet homme etait le fondateur des "Frères Musulmans". Quant à la question sur la lapidation, il y a répondu plus d'une fois (Video du Débat avec Phillippe de Villiers par exemple). Je ne suis pas la pour défendre mais pour rétablir la vérité. Paix sur toi.
@Questionmarksign i saw the hitchens debate. i dont think hitchens destroyed ramadan. i would say, instead, that the debate actually proved to be fruitful for the growth of Western society in which there are muslims, jews, christians, thiests, pagans, athiests, hindues, homosexuals, bisexuals, queer, transsexuals, socialists, capitalists, &c &c &c
Too strong for you all ! Il les devore tout cru,mais ce n'est pas difficile pour lui ca fait 25ans qu'ils disent les memes choses,il a eu le temps de roder sa rethorique! Bravo Tariq!
et hop, Tariq le Dévoreur de Débatteur a encore frappé... Premier débat en anglais que je vois avec lui, et même si son accent est aproximatif ; sérieux quel simplicité dans sa vision et ses réponses. Encore une fois, bien qu'athée, je salue la juste cause d'un vrai maître de la paix et du débat!
N’oublions pas que son père est le fondateur des « frères musulmans », organisation qui combattait l'influence de l'Occident dans les pays islamiques. Alors ne soyons pas trop dupes, et derrière ces discours d'une grande humanité, il m'étonnerait beaucoup qu'il renie son père et son frère par la même. son frère qui est un islamiste pur et dur, et qui défend la lapidation des femmes. Question à laquelle M. Tariq Ramadan, philosophe pourtant, a toujours refusé de répondre...
@LePtitSudiste déjà , c'est son grand père, pas son père. Ensuite il a déjà dit (1000 fios ) sa position sur la lapidation, avec l'expliquation concrète du pourquoi il avait dit "moratoire" face à sarko ( en bref; il est contre toute forme de violence conjugale ou autre mais étrangement ça on ne le reprend jamais). Comme tu dis, ne soyons pas dupes : l'état ne veut pas de musulmans fidèles à eux même et ouverts au débat car il perdrait son stock "d'épouvantail à couillons"... c surtouit ça..
Pourrais-je avoir le lien de cette vidéo car cela m'intéresse ? Pour le moment je trouve son raisonnement plutôt fluide et authentique mais sachant que son frère tient un discours plutôt radical et que Mr Ramadan combat des hommes en Europe qui font exactement ce que son Grand Père semblait faire dans son pays, je me dis qu'il nous cache peut être quelque chose... Je reste sceptique en ce qui concerne sa sincérité mais ça n'est qu'un avis personnel.
@LePtitSudiste si tu veux un exemple d'une des fois où il affirme son déssaccord sur la lapidation/violence conjugale, regarde la vidéo "Tariq Rmadan - Phillipe devilliers" , dans ce débat là je me souviens qu'il le mentionne.
faut aussi arrêter de s'en prendre aux "blancs"/"chrétiens" qui posent des questions aux musulmans venant dans nos pays.. Ils ont le droit d'être là, du moment où ils s'adaptent à nos sociétés, ce que je pense la majorité fait sans problème. Mais faut aussi comprendre les questions des habitants "anciens" des pays d'Europe, et ceci peut se faire seulement le jour où les "blancs européens" arretent de coloniser économiquement les pays arabes, malheuresement, le débat n'en parle jamais
Tariq doesn't say anything, he doesn't react on the point Pastors is contributing. Like the friction between Islam and the West. He just attacks the person and doesn't react on the problems he is mentioning.
Dhe dutch man is saying how they had a lot of debates with islamic groups (he is against islam) he finds it verry hard to understand it becouse there is a lot of friction between islam ant the west.
He also wants to know how the muslim would react on the following question: "how would you feel, if i told you that your children can not be muslim" ... he wants to know if the muslim can accept that.
-1:26 he said "in three years that you've bin here, you never invided me to debate"
@SIVANRAW yes i know you. all muslims are basically the same. tariq ramadan is a lying bitch, and everyone know he lies to nonmuslims when he speaks. good thing the french parliament doesn't care about him.
@karlsmith00 My dear friend, what you said is very dangerous. It's as if you took all muslims and put them in the same basket and that is so insulting. I suggest to you my friend, in order to be coherent, to go read about islam, talk with muslims and try to stay open minded no matter what, then speak the truth from within instead of reflecting the ideas of others. Because I believe that someone who can not form his own opinion is nothing but another follower and I hope you the best.
@hface222 well that is true, my friend, because the truth is dangerous, especially to muslims. i've talked to plenty of muslims, they lie through their teeth.
i speak the truth based on the koran and the hadith. this isn't about opinion, it's about fact. and ramadan says one thing to muslims, and another to europeans and americans. he is a lying bitch. end of story.
@karlsmith00 Honestly, I feel bad about the fact you only met lying muslims. I wish one day you'll meet one of them that'll change your mind and help get the source of their spirituality. Here is something I suggest you. There is a movie called the message and it's on youtube. Please watch it when you get time. And what can I tell you, muslims are not perfect just as everybody else. So when you see something wrong and perhaps it is, ask them is that what islam says? What was the context?
@hface222 no, idiot. you are exactly what i'm talking about--a stupid deluded muslim who thinks lying will change somebody's mind. YOU CAN'T CHANGE FACTS.
every single muslim like you cries about "context" or "culture" or "translation." THE PROBLEM IS ISLAM. the context is 7th century arabia. i won't watch any stupid movie made by another lying muslim. i read the koran and the hadith, and that's what everybody should do. that's what i suggest you do.
@hface222 ISLAM ISN'T A RACE YOU FUCKING FOOL. islam is an ideology. muslimms are white, black, asian, hispanic. RACE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
yes, all you muslims are liars. and you all cry about race when someone talks about your backwards religion. or "islamophobia" or "xenophobia" or "prejudice" or some other bullshit. just shut up.
@karlsmith00 Can you talk without insults? The only one that is promoting hate and anger is you? Please read your comments. And by the way we are muslims and we'll stay muslims. We have our Religion and you have yours. You can't do anything it's time for you to understand that my friend.
And by the way, thanks for acknowledging the fact that Islam is multicultural it shows it's Great. I would like that you move on because no matter what you do, you'll change nothing with some stupid comments.
@hface222 can muslims talk without crying about racism?
sure, you can have your religion. keep it in your own countries and keep it to yourselves. stop immigrating to the west, stop running your own sharia courts, stop burning down embassies over cartoons, stop threatening authors, and stop genitally mutilating little girls.
follow western law or go back to islam because your backwards beliefs aren't welcome here.
@hface222 and we can do plenty about islam, you ignoramus. france banned the veil, swiss banned minarets, the netherlands elected geert wilders' party as the 3rd largest. europe is waking up, and you're the one who can't do anything about that.
@hface222 and btw, in you're in mauritania i applaud you. i wish all muslims stayed in their own countries and stopped invading the west. spread the word amongst your fellow believers to be like you and live in backwards muslim countries.
@karlsmith00 You know, what's too bad is we don't listen to you my friend. Islam is not a mauritanian religion, it's also american, european, asian. Go get an education, that'll help you a lot. You have to understand one thing today. We're not here to do you pleasure my friend but between you and us there will always be the law. And I'm sure you are nothing but a single voice. In other words, the majority of your fellow citizens are never going to say such things about Islam. You are Ignorant!
@hface222 no islam is an ideology built on 7th century arab culture. there may be muslims in america or europe, but that doesn't make it compatible with our society and laws. muslims can practice it as much as it doesn't violate our laws, and much of it does. no man can marry 9 year olds here.
i am not a single voice. most americans oppose islam and 70% of us are against the mosque at ground zero. that's what you understand. islam is not welcome here.
@hface222 now you do what all muslims do, which is insult people when they point out truths about your pedophile religion and prophet.
the french, the swiss, the dutch and more westerners are waking up to the threat of islam. so you can call me ignorant all you want. we aren't ignorant.
we don't want your backwards 7th century beliefs here. so stay in mauritania because there are enough muslims on welfare here. that's what the majority wants. now run along, ignoramus.
@karlsmith00 Lets forget the 7th century and talk about today. Who's pedophile? Ask anybody and he'll tell you vatican. And you should put in mind that I don't obey you. I go to the US whenever I want, to europe whenever I want. I've always been welcomed and it's not because you are a hater that this'll change. And by the way, the only one who has been insulting was you. I don't know if you're a skyzophrene but go back and read your comments. Once again, go get an education! Ignorant!
@hface222 ISLAM IS BASED ON 7TH CENTURY ARAB CULTURE, MORON. i wish you idiots would forget it. stop allowing old men to marry young girls, beat their wives, and stone people to death.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU MUSLIMS THIS? what the vatican did was illegal in every country. they paid damages, priests were arrested and sent to jail. nothing in christianity or the life of jesus justifies that. whining about that doesn't change the fact that muhammad raped 9 year old aisha.
@hface222 the catholic church is just one more example of what happens with a bunch of power hungry men who think they're above the law and better than women. you get these disgusting things, which is what happens LEGALLY in islam everyday. so shut up about that.
you're the ignorant one. nobody wants you in the US or europe. they're nice to your face because they're scared of being called racist. muslims aren't wanted here, people like me just say it out loud. stay in your own countries.
@karlsmith00 what a wonderful way of thinking, i guess you just come from Ice age period ar eyou trying to help society to go forward or taking it back, because when i read your comments i can figure your situation talking about something that you don't have any idea.
Keep driving ahead be careful, you may smash your head. Who you're to say that are you People representative?
@karlsmith00 I'm Mohawk Indian, tell me what did you kind of people to my country my people my ancestors? they burned our life we've been in peace before your bullshit came from poor Europe to colonize our lands, then you pretend giving education and right examples to others. return to your Ice age period
@TheMrfreedom1 suuuuuuuure, you're mohawk indian. i believe every word. you're a muslim mohawk indian obsessed with israel. makes sense.
you want me to be mad at the US government today for what the english, french, dutch, spanish did for hundreds of years? columbus landed in america in 1492, the US was founded nearly 300 years later and only on the eastern seaboard.
so as payback, live in europe and leech off welfare. makes sense. if you're muslim, live in muslim lands.
@karlsmith00 when someone offers you the thumb do not try to take the elbow, you're just an immigrant established on my ancestors lands, so do not behave as the owner, you're just panhandler
@TheMrfreedom1 whatever you say sweetie. get back to screaming about israel, that will solve everything.
now if i'm an immigrant who should leave, i want you to tell the milions of muslims living in europe collecting welfare and using all social benefits to stop taking the elbow. they should all go back to pakistan. thanks.
@karlsmith00 lol yeah because I'm the owner of Europe lands to put them out, thanx for your advise, i'll tell them Hitler is still alive using Youtube account @Karlsmith00
@TheMrfreedom1 ah yes, the last refuge of the ignorant with no real response. start crying about hitler. nobody wants muslims exterminated, dumb bitch. if you want americans to be responsible for what europeans did four hundred years ago, ask your muslim borthers and sisters to stop leeching off the west. that's it.
how about this, native americans immigrated from central asia over the bering strait, all of you should go back there. america isn't yours. except for casinos on reservations.
@karlsmith00 As i told you before, you're here just as a guest so don't behave as the master, next you'll tell me that your Christophercolumbus when he came over here he found nobody then Mohawk , apache navajo, Havasupai, Walapai, Yavapai, Hohokam, Yuma, Mohave, Cocopa, Chiricahua, Klmath, Modoc, Makah, Chnook, Kalapoola, Suislaw, Nootka, Haida, Bella Coola, Kwakiut, Tlingit, Noootka, Algonkian, Athabascan, Eskimo-Aleut, Atsina, Arikara, Kalispel, Kutenai came from Mars.
@SIVANRAW Oh houd je kop. Idioot. Tariq is alleen de beste om de boel te belazeren herrie te trappen en geld te incasseren in Rotterdam. Met dat laatste is hij nog steeds bezig. European Muslim! What the fuck slaat dat op?
This shameless bastard had the guts to ask 290 Euro / hour for scamming our society into islamization with his taqiyya crab. He is a complete Islamic nazi.
BRAVO TARIQ RAMADAN!! Hey Pastors go educate yourself first, you don't know what means Islam, you dont know what means democracy and you don't know what means communication. Before you open your mouth you must think and before you think you must learn.
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Ramadan got his arse kicked in the Intelligence squared debate! Even though the Musims in the audience were booing and jeering against the other speakers! Typical! He looks for attantion, desperate for the camera!
@555discovery Hardly a slap! It is just his populist approach! Ramadan is desperate for the crowds to cheer for him. Its the cheap publicity he wants and He is a waste for all Muslims who want to integrate! Hassan al banna in disguise that is all that he is...
@boockson87 Develop what Idea? Of stoning women? Or Burkas? or of making excuses for violent muslims who burns over 1000 cars for fun in France? Yes, it is the discrimination, the unemployment, the universe but not Islam. Islam and perfect but the rest of us are the problem! So why don't you leave us and develop your ideas in Saudi Arabia?
view587, for the stoning of women, burqua, ramadan's position is really clear, concerning the stoning people think it's just for women, in the classics texts the sanction is also available for men. i think you don't listen ramadan, but people which treat him like extremist.
@boockson87 The very fact that he has to write "what I believe" a book redefining his ideas proves that he is full of double speak! I heard him very carefully with Sarkozy and he didn't condemn stoning women, he said we should discuss it with the leaders who practice it! then later on he said I don't agree with it but don't discuss it with me! The fact is he is sympathizes with extremists. Don't forget he made his wife convert to Islam and put her in a hijab! that is his reality!
I have to agree he goes for audience approbation! Ramadan loves the media and he portrays himself as an intellect but if you listen to his arguments the Islamic agenda is all too obvious! He is actually not helping Muslims integrate in fact it is quite the contrary! Such a waste!
@ancutzabc I am glad he wad fired I hope Oxford does that same! Sorry if you think otherwise! Even here in this argument he just looks for popularity, no subject matter! He just wants public attention! He is an extremist in disguise as a moderate!
Tariq Ramadan lost his job in Rotterdam Uni! He was sacked cause he poses as a moderate but he is an extremist! and a populist who messages the pathetic souls of Muslims who will never integrate with European values!
He lost his job, because he was working for a TV show named "Press TV" which is financing by the Iranian government, so stop telling lies.. french faggot
@view587 im sure his English in terms of vocubulary and understanding will outshine the majority of us English/British folks! as for the accent, quite endearing, you probably feel inferior so u say he 'sucks' ; )
mdr, comment il la tué
dba78310 1 month ago
The Neo-nazi humiliated by Ramadan...
Attella1 1 month ago
Could someone translate what the dutch politician were saying in the beginning please ?
thevavano 2 months ago
Tariq vs this idiot is like barca vs madrid
znatim 2 months ago
islam is the problem tariq is another example of beeing a son of a mu ta
JONAN7 2 months ago
Tariq Ramadan is een meester.
momi76 3 months ago
Damn, what an awful tongue...
lebchiri 4 months ago
Tariq spoke about power but he had the advantage over this guy, come on....he kicked his butt!
LovinLaVerne 4 months ago
the other guy is such a douche bag and he absolutley got pied
OmarabDawwas 5 months ago
you talk a lot and not listen c est la verité le gars est destabilisé car son attitude contre l islam est infantile
ne cesse de repeter open modern society
jlennon555 5 months ago
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jlennon555 5 months ago
you talk a lot and not listen c est la verité
jlennon555 5 months ago
minable pastors
nerrazzuri13 6 months ago
I am a devout Catholic Christian. That said, on the fundamental point of believing in God, desiring an intimate relationship with him and wanting to share that with the community, I think Islam is bieutiful. I have problems with aspects in it, but its important not to simply read a verse in the Qu'ran but rather read the authoritative eccleastical bodies and their traditions, interpretations and teachings. My question to Muslims. Do you believe man is made in the image of God? God bless.
zzzak123 6 months ago 2
@zzzak123 Hi thnx for asking us about our faith and also its faith of all the prophets. here is the Answer The Noble Quran, Verse 42:11 says that "Allah is the creator of the heavens and the earth and there is nothing like him"
TheSayfullah114 6 months ago
@zzzak123
impossible, Allah has not physically appearance, so man cannot be in the image of God. For muslim people Jesus (Issa in the qur'an) is a real prophet but not the son of God Who has no family, no other forms than Him. He just communicate his speech to Muhammad (saw) to give it to man.
That are the major disagreements between christian religion and islam, which are in the end no so different.
assalamu aleik (peace on you)
seemann1989 5 months ago
@zzzak123 Loie of the gods if people apply , all the problems of humanity will be set
read for exemple about the economic system islamic , zakat , and more and more .....
see this it's in english : /watch?v=ZxzXxdm9GSM
hcinoubnf 5 months ago
@zzzak123 Good evening to you. I appreciate your reconciling comment. I am a Moslem and I had debates with friends that are Christian about this but never managed to understand what they mean by image. Since we don't know in a materialistic way how God is, how he looks like, or even if human eyes could embrace his reflection I can't really assert we made in his image do you feel me? I just believe that the Creator can't look like his creature. Computers are created but don't look like us. Peace.
lebchiri 4 months ago
@SIVANRAW str8 up. tariq ramadan is a wonderful role model for young muslims.
lajungesombre 6 months ago
@LePtitSudiste Faux! Le Grand-Père de cet homme etait le fondateur des "Frères Musulmans". Quant à la question sur la lapidation, il y a répondu plus d'une fois (Video du Débat avec Phillippe de Villiers par exemple). Je ne suis pas la pour défendre mais pour rétablir la vérité. Paix sur toi.
47jiro47 7 months ago
@47jiro47
Merci d'avoir rectifier cette erreur, j'ai certainement lu un peu trop vite. Paix à nous tous !
LePtitSudiste 7 months ago
Christopher Hitchens destroyed Tariq Ramadan!
Marco Pastors isn't a islamic philosopher like Tariq Ramadan.
Trojan''ISLAM''Horse
Questionmarksign 7 months ago
@Questionmarksign i saw the hitchens debate. i dont think hitchens destroyed ramadan. i would say, instead, that the debate actually proved to be fruitful for the growth of Western society in which there are muslims, jews, christians, thiests, pagans, athiests, hindues, homosexuals, bisexuals, queer, transsexuals, socialists, capitalists, &c &c &c
lajungesombre 6 months ago
Too strong for you all ! Il les devore tout cru,mais ce n'est pas difficile pour lui ca fait 25ans qu'ils disent les memes choses,il a eu le temps de roder sa rethorique! Bravo Tariq!
MrFmr23 8 months ago
et hop, Tariq le Dévoreur de Débatteur a encore frappé... Premier débat en anglais que je vois avec lui, et même si son accent est aproximatif ; sérieux quel simplicité dans sa vision et ses réponses. Encore une fois, bien qu'athée, je salue la juste cause d'un vrai maître de la paix et du débat!
ArnackAttack 8 months ago
@ArnackAttack
N’oublions pas que son père est le fondateur des « frères musulmans », organisation qui combattait l'influence de l'Occident dans les pays islamiques. Alors ne soyons pas trop dupes, et derrière ces discours d'une grande humanité, il m'étonnerait beaucoup qu'il renie son père et son frère par la même. son frère qui est un islamiste pur et dur, et qui défend la lapidation des femmes. Question à laquelle M. Tariq Ramadan, philosophe pourtant, a toujours refusé de répondre...
LePtitSudiste 7 months ago
@LePtitSudiste déjà , c'est son grand père, pas son père. Ensuite il a déjà dit (1000 fios ) sa position sur la lapidation, avec l'expliquation concrète du pourquoi il avait dit "moratoire" face à sarko ( en bref; il est contre toute forme de violence conjugale ou autre mais étrangement ça on ne le reprend jamais). Comme tu dis, ne soyons pas dupes : l'état ne veut pas de musulmans fidèles à eux même et ouverts au débat car il perdrait son stock "d'épouvantail à couillons"... c surtouit ça..
ArnackAttack 7 months ago
@ArnackAttack
Pourrais-je avoir le lien de cette vidéo car cela m'intéresse ? Pour le moment je trouve son raisonnement plutôt fluide et authentique mais sachant que son frère tient un discours plutôt radical et que Mr Ramadan combat des hommes en Europe qui font exactement ce que son Grand Père semblait faire dans son pays, je me dis qu'il nous cache peut être quelque chose... Je reste sceptique en ce qui concerne sa sincérité mais ça n'est qu'un avis personnel.
LePtitSudiste 7 months ago
@LePtitSudiste si tu veux un exemple d'une des fois où il affirme son déssaccord sur la lapidation/violence conjugale, regarde la vidéo "Tariq Rmadan - Phillipe devilliers" , dans ce débat là je me souviens qu'il le mentionne.
ArnackAttack 7 months ago
faut aussi arrêter de s'en prendre aux "blancs"/"chrétiens" qui posent des questions aux musulmans venant dans nos pays.. Ils ont le droit d'être là, du moment où ils s'adaptent à nos sociétés, ce que je pense la majorité fait sans problème. Mais faut aussi comprendre les questions des habitants "anciens" des pays d'Europe, et ceci peut se faire seulement le jour où les "blancs européens" arretent de coloniser économiquement les pays arabes, malheuresement, le débat n'en parle jamais
truthmouthpiece2 9 months ago 4
Leefbaar rotterdam is rasist. No open society in Neyherland
ir160907 11 months ago
Tariq doesn't say anything, he doesn't react on the point Pastors is contributing. Like the friction between Islam and the West. He just attacks the person and doesn't react on the problems he is mentioning.
korpscomacho 11 months ago
serait il possible d'avoir une traduction svp
islam100doute 1 year ago
Tariq Ramadan owned this idiot.
lBDLKRMl 1 year ago 12
wauw!!
JustMeMyDear 1 year ago
May Allah belss you Tariq....
amareto35 1 year ago
Dhe dutch man is saying how they had a lot of debates with islamic groups (he is against islam) he finds it verry hard to understand it becouse there is a lot of friction between islam ant the west.
He also wants to know how the muslim would react on the following question: "how would you feel, if i told you that your children can not be muslim" ... he wants to know if the muslim can accept that.
-1:26 he said "in three years that you've bin here, you never invided me to debate"
hmmvanNoura 1 year ago
what the netherlander is telling?
elbombardi 1 year ago
Subtitle please
elbombardi 1 year ago
ce lui la ils ont pas de solution pour lui lol
ennemi00 1 year ago
@SIVANRAW yes i know you. all muslims are basically the same. tariq ramadan is a lying bitch, and everyone know he lies to nonmuslims when he speaks. good thing the french parliament doesn't care about him.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00 My dear friend, what you said is very dangerous. It's as if you took all muslims and put them in the same basket and that is so insulting. I suggest to you my friend, in order to be coherent, to go read about islam, talk with muslims and try to stay open minded no matter what, then speak the truth from within instead of reflecting the ideas of others. Because I believe that someone who can not form his own opinion is nothing but another follower and I hope you the best.
Salam.
hface222 1 year ago
@hface222 well that is true, my friend, because the truth is dangerous, especially to muslims. i've talked to plenty of muslims, they lie through their teeth.
i speak the truth based on the koran and the hadith. this isn't about opinion, it's about fact. and ramadan says one thing to muslims, and another to europeans and americans. he is a lying bitch. end of story.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00 Honestly, I feel bad about the fact you only met lying muslims. I wish one day you'll meet one of them that'll change your mind and help get the source of their spirituality. Here is something I suggest you. There is a movie called the message and it's on youtube. Please watch it when you get time. And what can I tell you, muslims are not perfect just as everybody else. So when you see something wrong and perhaps it is, ask them is that what islam says? What was the context?
Salam
hface222 1 year ago
@hface222 no, idiot. you are exactly what i'm talking about--a stupid deluded muslim who thinks lying will change somebody's mind. YOU CAN'T CHANGE FACTS.
every single muslim like you cries about "context" or "culture" or "translation." THE PROBLEM IS ISLAM. the context is 7th century arabia. i won't watch any stupid movie made by another lying muslim. i read the koran and the hadith, and that's what everybody should do. that's what i suggest you do.
get that through your thick skull
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00 I hope you all the best.
Salam.
hface222 1 year ago
@hface222 i hope you muslims stop lying.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00 Well not all of us. We are also not racist.
hface222 1 year ago
@hface222 ISLAM ISN'T A RACE YOU FUCKING FOOL. islam is an ideology. muslimms are white, black, asian, hispanic. RACE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
yes, all you muslims are liars. and you all cry about race when someone talks about your backwards religion. or "islamophobia" or "xenophobia" or "prejudice" or some other bullshit. just shut up.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00 Can you talk without insults? The only one that is promoting hate and anger is you? Please read your comments. And by the way we are muslims and we'll stay muslims. We have our Religion and you have yours. You can't do anything it's time for you to understand that my friend.
And by the way, thanks for acknowledging the fact that Islam is multicultural it shows it's Great. I would like that you move on because no matter what you do, you'll change nothing with some stupid comments.
hface222 1 year ago
@hface222 can muslims talk without crying about racism?
sure, you can have your religion. keep it in your own countries and keep it to yourselves. stop immigrating to the west, stop running your own sharia courts, stop burning down embassies over cartoons, stop threatening authors, and stop genitally mutilating little girls.
follow western law or go back to islam because your backwards beliefs aren't welcome here.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@hface222 and we can do plenty about islam, you ignoramus. france banned the veil, swiss banned minarets, the netherlands elected geert wilders' party as the 3rd largest. europe is waking up, and you're the one who can't do anything about that.
now go cry about racism.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@hface222 and btw, in you're in mauritania i applaud you. i wish all muslims stayed in their own countries and stopped invading the west. spread the word amongst your fellow believers to be like you and live in backwards muslim countries.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00 You know, what's too bad is we don't listen to you my friend. Islam is not a mauritanian religion, it's also american, european, asian. Go get an education, that'll help you a lot. You have to understand one thing today. We're not here to do you pleasure my friend but between you and us there will always be the law. And I'm sure you are nothing but a single voice. In other words, the majority of your fellow citizens are never going to say such things about Islam. You are Ignorant!
hface222 1 year ago
@hface222 no islam is an ideology built on 7th century arab culture. there may be muslims in america or europe, but that doesn't make it compatible with our society and laws. muslims can practice it as much as it doesn't violate our laws, and much of it does. no man can marry 9 year olds here.
i am not a single voice. most americans oppose islam and 70% of us are against the mosque at ground zero. that's what you understand. islam is not welcome here.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@hface222 now you do what all muslims do, which is insult people when they point out truths about your pedophile religion and prophet.
the french, the swiss, the dutch and more westerners are waking up to the threat of islam. so you can call me ignorant all you want. we aren't ignorant.
we don't want your backwards 7th century beliefs here. so stay in mauritania because there are enough muslims on welfare here. that's what the majority wants. now run along, ignoramus.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00 Lets forget the 7th century and talk about today. Who's pedophile? Ask anybody and he'll tell you vatican. And you should put in mind that I don't obey you. I go to the US whenever I want, to europe whenever I want. I've always been welcomed and it's not because you are a hater that this'll change. And by the way, the only one who has been insulting was you. I don't know if you're a skyzophrene but go back and read your comments. Once again, go get an education! Ignorant!
hface222 1 year ago
@hface222 ISLAM IS BASED ON 7TH CENTURY ARAB CULTURE, MORON. i wish you idiots would forget it. stop allowing old men to marry young girls, beat their wives, and stone people to death.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU MUSLIMS THIS? what the vatican did was illegal in every country. they paid damages, priests were arrested and sent to jail. nothing in christianity or the life of jesus justifies that. whining about that doesn't change the fact that muhammad raped 9 year old aisha.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@hface222 the catholic church is just one more example of what happens with a bunch of power hungry men who think they're above the law and better than women. you get these disgusting things, which is what happens LEGALLY in islam everyday. so shut up about that.
you're the ignorant one. nobody wants you in the US or europe. they're nice to your face because they're scared of being called racist. muslims aren't wanted here, people like me just say it out loud. stay in your own countries.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00 what a wonderful way of thinking, i guess you just come from Ice age period ar eyou trying to help society to go forward or taking it back, because when i read your comments i can figure your situation talking about something that you don't have any idea.
Keep driving ahead be careful, you may smash your head. Who you're to say that are you People representative?
TheMrfreedom1 1 year ago
@karlsmith00 I'm Mohawk Indian, tell me what did you kind of people to my country my people my ancestors? they burned our life we've been in peace before your bullshit came from poor Europe to colonize our lands, then you pretend giving education and right examples to others. return to your Ice age period
TheMrfreedom1 1 year ago
@TheMrfreedom1 suuuuuuuure, you're mohawk indian. i believe every word. you're a muslim mohawk indian obsessed with israel. makes sense.
you want me to be mad at the US government today for what the english, french, dutch, spanish did for hundreds of years? columbus landed in america in 1492, the US was founded nearly 300 years later and only on the eastern seaboard.
so as payback, live in europe and leech off welfare. makes sense. if you're muslim, live in muslim lands.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00 when someone offers you the thumb do not try to take the elbow, you're just an immigrant established on my ancestors lands, so do not behave as the owner, you're just panhandler
TheMrfreedom1 1 year ago
@TheMrfreedom1 whatever you say sweetie. get back to screaming about israel, that will solve everything.
now if i'm an immigrant who should leave, i want you to tell the milions of muslims living in europe collecting welfare and using all social benefits to stop taking the elbow. they should all go back to pakistan. thanks.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00 lol yeah because I'm the owner of Europe lands to put them out, thanx for your advise, i'll tell them Hitler is still alive using Youtube account @Karlsmith00
Maybe you're from Africa or more from Asia
TheMrfreedom1 1 year ago
@TheMrfreedom1 ah yes, the last refuge of the ignorant with no real response. start crying about hitler. nobody wants muslims exterminated, dumb bitch. if you want americans to be responsible for what europeans did four hundred years ago, ask your muslim borthers and sisters to stop leeching off the west. that's it.
how about this, native americans immigrated from central asia over the bering strait, all of you should go back there. america isn't yours. except for casinos on reservations.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00 As i told you before, you're here just as a guest so don't behave as the master, next you'll tell me that your Christophercolumbus when he came over here he found nobody then Mohawk , apache navajo, Havasupai, Walapai, Yavapai, Hohokam, Yuma, Mohave, Cocopa, Chiricahua, Klmath, Modoc, Makah, Chnook, Kalapoola, Suislaw, Nootka, Haida, Bella Coola, Kwakiut, Tlingit, Noootka, Algonkian, Athabascan, Eskimo-Aleut, Atsina, Arikara, Kalispel, Kutenai came from Mars.
list is still long
TheMrfreedom1 1 year ago
@TheMrfreedom1 uh oh, somebody didn't take their thorazine today
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00 no Benzodiazepines just what you're taking now...
TheMrfreedom1 1 year ago
@SIVANRAW he's a two faced bitch who says one thing to muslims and another to nonmuslims.
too bad he couldn't stop france from banning face veils (ninja masks). talk about european muslim.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@SIVANRAW Oh houd je kop. Idioot. Tariq is alleen de beste om de boel te belazeren herrie te trappen en geld te incasseren in Rotterdam. Met dat laatste is hij nog steeds bezig. European Muslim! What the fuck slaat dat op?
czerniakow1 1 year ago
@czerniakow1 Get a life!! Tariq is the best..and u smoke another blunt and continue drinking.
TheHayzeeeee 1 year ago
@TheHayzeeeee Espece de con toi meme. Petit enmerdeur.
czerniakow1 1 year ago
@czerniakow1 ASSHOLE!!!!!
TheHayzeeeee 1 year ago
@TheHayzeeeee Et de retour. Quel petit vocabulaire pour un aussi grand imbecile.
czerniakow1 1 year ago
@czerniakow1 Whatever dude!! Still
TARIQ FOR PRESIDENT..all haters need to get a job!!
TheHayzeeeee 1 year ago
@TheHayzeeeee
Yes i agree. Make him president of allablabla land. Far far away.
I guess you are waiting for that to get a job yourself. You big fat liar with your multiple accounts.
Dude?????? Really????? What's up with that?
czerniakow1 1 year ago
Blij dat deze man uit Rotterdam verdwenen is. Hij was slechts bezig met agiteren.
Spreekt niet eens Nederlands en kostte ons vreselijk veel geld.
czerniakow1 1 year ago
This shameless bastard had the guts to ask 290 Euro / hour for scamming our society into islamization with his taqiyya crab. He is a complete Islamic nazi.
TWITVB 1 year ago
Tariq Ramadan is the biggest scammer of all and the master of taqiyya!!
TWITVB 1 year ago
I feel a very strong sense of embarrassment on behalf of Pastors when listening to him.
Blubberbeest 1 year ago
@Blubberbeest Je kan je beter schamen voor Tariq Ramadan en wat hij de Rotterdamers gekost heeft.
czerniakow1 1 year ago
il parle kel langue svp qqun pourrait me dire ?
saraficha 1 year ago
@saraficha en néerlandais :-)
Alukard1 1 year ago
@Alukard1 Thank you
saraficha 1 year ago
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Thank you ^^
saraficha 1 year ago
@saraficha T'es bete ou quoi?Tu ne connais pas le mot 'dutch'/
Il parle le Neerlandais/
Et note qu'on doit ecrire 'quelle langue' et pas 'kel'.
czerniakow1 1 year ago
@czerniakow1 Thanks
saraficha 1 year ago
Thanks
saraficha 1 year ago
Tariq Ramadan the best sophist and the worst man I've seen in quite some times. Fucking preacher, forked tongue speaking motherfucker.
DanaWhite0 1 year ago
ONE WORD: SHNAPPP!!!!
Nottafooh1 1 year ago
Did this pastor give Tariq and chance to give his view point? I often have the same problem when talking to christains. There minds are closed.
Raggamuffinlaffs 1 year ago 4
Does anyone know where i can get the full version of this
Oo786oO 1 year ago
@SIVANRAW
can someone translate this please!!
Oo786oO 1 year ago
tariq is the best
mahditelecom1 1 year ago
BRAVO TARIQ RAMADAN!! Hey Pastors go educate yourself first, you don't know what means Islam, you dont know what means democracy and you don't know what means communication. Before you open your mouth you must think and before you think you must learn.
regisiam 1 year ago
how bout some subtitles guys...at least in french or english
alhabbo 1 year ago 2
massive rofl @ 3:40
well said Mr Ramadan ;)
MythF 1 year ago
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Ramadan got his arse kicked in the Intelligence squared debate! Even though the Musims in the audience were booing and jeering against the other speakers! Typical! He looks for attantion, desperate for the camera!
view587 1 year ago
visiblement il discute avec un mec qui n'a pas lu un de c 27 livres et pretend le connaitre.
zarbout31 2 years ago 29
What a slap Ramadan gave this man..lol..poufff!!
555discovery 2 years ago 3
@555discovery Hardly a slap! It is just his populist approach! Ramadan is desperate for the crowds to cheer for him. Its the cheap publicity he wants and He is a waste for all Muslims who want to integrate! Hassan al banna in disguise that is all that he is...
Avanti27 2 years ago
le discour c'est possible de l'avoir en FRANCIAS s.v.p.
Guness00 2 years ago
@Guness00 -J'essayerai de la traduire pour toi!!..
555discovery 2 years ago
man just to tell u to be respectful, what do u reproach to ramadan? develop your idea. and i'm not sure you're better than him in english.
boockson87 2 years ago
@boockson87 Develop what Idea? Of stoning women? Or Burkas? or of making excuses for violent muslims who burns over 1000 cars for fun in France? Yes, it is the discrimination, the unemployment, the universe but not Islam. Islam and perfect but the rest of us are the problem! So why don't you leave us and develop your ideas in Saudi Arabia?
view587 2 years ago
view587, for the stoning of women, burqua, ramadan's position is really clear, concerning the stoning people think it's just for women, in the classics texts the sanction is also available for men. i think you don't listen ramadan, but people which treat him like extremist.
boockson87 2 years ago
@boockson87 The very fact that he has to write "what I believe" a book redefining his ideas proves that he is full of double speak! I heard him very carefully with Sarkozy and he didn't condemn stoning women, he said we should discuss it with the leaders who practice it! then later on he said I don't agree with it but don't discuss it with me! The fact is he is sympathizes with extremists. Don't forget he made his wife convert to Islam and put her in a hijab! that is his reality!
view587 2 years ago
I have to agree he goes for audience approbation! Ramadan loves the media and he portrays himself as an intellect but if you listen to his arguments the Islamic agenda is all too obvious! He is actually not helping Muslims integrate in fact it is quite the contrary! Such a waste!
Avanti27 2 years ago
@ancutzabc I am glad he wad fired I hope Oxford does that same! Sorry if you think otherwise! Even here in this argument he just looks for popularity, no subject matter! He just wants public attention! He is an extremist in disguise as a moderate!
view587 2 years ago
Tariq Ramadan lost his job in Rotterdam Uni! He was sacked cause he poses as a moderate but he is an extremist! and a populist who messages the pathetic souls of Muslims who will never integrate with European values!
view587 2 years ago
He lost his job, because he was working for a TV show named "Press TV" which is financing by the Iranian government, so stop telling lies.. french faggot
MythF 1 year ago
@MythF Tariq will soon be fired from all his jobs, he will be sent with a begging bowl to the mosques to please idiots like you
view587 1 year ago
@view587
you wish my friend :)
MythF 1 year ago
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l'anglais de tarik est vraiment audible, aussi éloquent en français qu'en anglais
boockson87 2 years ago
@boockson87 Tariq ramadan is a bastard who should be deported to Egypt! His English sucks!
view587 2 years ago
@view587 im sure his English in terms of vocubulary and understanding will outshine the majority of us English/British folks! as for the accent, quite endearing, you probably feel inferior so u say he 'sucks' ; )
peachey1986 1 year ago