Restored Saturn V Rocket

[usaeagle1776]

the Saturn 5 should never have been discontinued, but just like the shuttle, short sightedness is an American tradition sadly.

[zooomfun]

oh.. I forgot to say, I'm glad they restored it. Still lousy video quality.

[zooomfun]

What's funny is that in the 60's video quality was bad because it was the 60's. Now beyond the year 2000, video quality is worse. If I want to see a higher quality video, I need to find some old nasa footage. 240p we meet again...

[MiHiVidz]

Texas ONLY bothered to get around to covering up and restoring this Saturn V is because they were neglecting it so badly that the Smithsonian (who actually owns the rocket) threatened to take it back.

And THIS is one of the reasons why Texas didn't get a Space Shuttle (as well as the fact that Texas is a haven for stupid, anti-science, secessionist goons), and rightly so.

[ladylejean215]

@MiHiVidz Amen!

[TheSpiritof1969]

Four years and just 22,000 views. That said it all about how much people care. Had this been a moon hoax video it would have had 50 times as many hits.

This was a huge victory for 60s technolgy.

I am so glad they brought that bird in to enjoy a retirement that may last hundreds of years.

[o2me2]

Thumbs up. Restoring the Saturn V Rocket is a tribute to the people that designed and built it. It should be cherished as a tribute to the ingenuity of the people who designed, built and flew it. It was utterly awesome.

[tigersim303]

So glad they restored and protected this noble beast. Funny (actually shameful) how governments can let past endeavours go to ruin, here in the UK for example we seem hardly able to bring ourselves to look after a few wooden huts at Bletchley Park.

[KSMike1]

I'm glad they finally got it covered and cleaned up. When I was there in 2004 it was outside, completely exposed, rotting, and covered with bird droppings. It was a travesty.

[isisthegreat]

This is the construction video and grand opening of the building for "Rocket Park" at Jonson Space Center. And the rocket has been fully restored. This is one of humanities greatest achievement. What a different world this would be without NASA and the brave men and women who risk their lives for the further exploration of our universe.

[iorixs]

just cut it up and bury the pieces in shame

[mrblujet]

It is unfortunately that this has been enclosed. It doesn't give the admirer the good idea of just how big this rocket is.

[CharmingLordSausage]

It was an absolute crime that the the Saturn V was abandoned as a heavy lift system. Post Skylab the US should have continued to to develop NTR propulsion and launched a mission to Mars.

Oh, well...let's see what Obama 'chooses' for NASA's next mission. Flexible path to land on a Martian Moon perhaps? Or maybe more endless loops in LEO.

Come on America - give the world more spectacle. Don't aim for Martian orbit. Aim for the damned surface. And fly there to stay this time!

[Membrane556]

It's a piece of history and it would be a crime to let it rot away.

Like the zeppelins of the 1920s vehicles like this may never fly again.

Despite present plans at NASA the future mostly likely will involve low cost ELVs and RLVs in the 12 to 50T range with LEO assembly vs monsters like this.

[korgri]

I fully encourage these guys who think the moon missions were faked to keep talking about it. It's like when someone has really bad farts on a constant basis you know who to stay away from because they are just gonna keep on farting.

[iorixs]

they were a hoax for sure there is no way they could have had enough fuel to land on the moon and then lift off from the moon and then fly back to earth

[mercatormac]

@iorixs Really, how much more fuel would they have needed?

[iorixs]

a lot more than what could have fit inside that little lunar landing module

[mercatormac]

@iorixs How much 5lbs? 35 tonnes? Please tell us how you calculated it?

[iorixs]

just common sense. how much thrust did it take to get off the earth. the moon is allegedly 1/6 earth's gravity, the two are probably proportional, they would probably need 1/6 the thrust to get off of the moon. so they would need a vehicle 1/6th that of the saturn rocker which they didnt have. they show the image of the top little part of the lunar lander fallen upwards into the sky without any exhaust from any thrusters. big giant hoax perpetrated by horrible people to what end i dont know

[apollotls]

@iorixs

It's a very straightforward calculation. I'm sure you can find the formulas on wikipedia. Try it for yourself and see what result you get. Then determine if the Apollo LM solution is unreasonable.

[iorixs]

The escape velocity at the Moon is about 1.47 miles per second.

[iorixs]

it is unreasonable because in the tv coverage they showed the thing just lifting up without any exhaust like some magic carpet. i think they did it like pharaoh and his stick snake thing. if people dont go along with it then they challenge the authority of the tyrant and they are punished with horrible torments

[apollotls]

@iorixs

Your original point was that the LM could never have contained enough fuel to get to orbit. Do the calculation and see if it really is unreasonable.

The fact that there's no visible flame does not mean there's no thrust. Have you never seen the shuttle - after the SRBs have been jettisonned? There's no flame there either. Are you saying the shuttle is fake too?

[iorixs]

they had to land on the moon which requires thrust so they would have had to use up a lot of fuel. but there is no evidence of any of the moon dust being disturbed. so then they would have had to use up fuel to launch from the moon again since there are no gas stations on the moon. where did they get the fuel from, where did they store it since they lifted off from the moon in only the upper section of the lander. for the shuttle to take off from the earth again it would need to refuel

[mercatormac]

he complete LM has a mass of 14,696 kg with 8,200 kg fuel in the descent stage for landing.

The ascent stage has a Mass of 4700kg of which 2,353 kg is fuel.

So the complete LM is 55% made up of fuel for landing.

The ascent stage's mass is 50% fuel for taking off. Virtually the same proportion.

[mercatormac]

But common sense is wrong. The Saturn V has to lift the whole LSM/LM stack capable of making a return trip from Earth to the Moon. The ascent stage of the LM only needs to make a one way trip into moon orbit.

[slash65]

Hey idiot, the reason you can't see any exhaust flames from the thrusters is because the Lunar Module used Aerozine 50 and N2O4 as it's fuels, which produce a barely visible flame. Also, you probably didn't take into account that the earth, unlike the moon, has air pressure. The faster you go on earth, the more the air pressure tries to slow you down, however that is not the case on the moon since there is no air whatsoever, and also, you need to be going much slower to orbit the moon than earth

[Frapazoid]

@iorixs

Gravity doesn't work that way.

Do you even know what delta-v is???

[tlages]

@korgri I agree with the farting part. I knew a kid who I shared 4 classes with and he would fart non stop. You are truly wise sir.

[fredgt28]

ive been there. All I can say is, still miss Vicky...."sigh" sad but true....

[Pirate88179]

Great video! Yes, we did go to the moon. It does seem unbelievable but, that makes it even more impressive. I was 11 at the time and remember it very well. This needs to be preserved so we do not forget, and maybe, do it again.

Bill

[llandudnoboy]

Thank goodnesss the worlds wealthiest nation saw sense and refurbished this greatest achievement in aeronautics.

If this Saturn V still remained in place decaying for all to see it would have been an act of great criminality.

Thank goodness it was repaird.

[Rodelu10915]

A true national treasure. They should stand it up and give tours to the capsule. It would rival the statue of liberty.

[korgri]

it needs to be full of fuel to stand up, but they could modify it.

It's a good idea, and they could also build a replica launch gantry for the tourists to see the rocket. Put it on the Washington Mall next to the Washington Monument. They could call it the Apollo/Saturn Moonument.

[Rodelu10915]

Great idea!

[Rodelu10915]

Only thing I disagree with is the moving it to Washington part. I'm from Houston and I'd like to see it stay here.

[korgri]

I wouldn't move your Houston rocket, it would have to be modified too much in order to stand upright. As for DC, I meant build a standing replica with a replica launch gantry, with your idea that people could ride the gantry elevator to the top to sit in the command module, just like the astronauts did.

You should get those folks in Houston together to build a standing replica next to this one, unless you feel that the folks in Huntsville AL can do something you Texans can't do? heh heh heh..

[Rodelu10915]

Korgri, a Southern man can do anything he sets his mind to, but a Texan does it with style and jalapenoes!

[korgri]

Can he partake in the jalapenoes first so he can work at the style with a full stomach?

[Rodelu10915]

Unfortunately jalapenoes give me the runs.

[korgri]

well.. you did say 'A Texan does it with style and jalapenoes', so a literal interpretation wouldn't necessarily imply that you had to eat them as long as they were 'with' you. Heck, you could even zing it by finding someone (a fellow Texan, maybe) named (or re-named) "Hal Apenyos" and commit to the performance of some larger than life Texas-style behaviour as a team. You and Hal sweep the state gov't for the construction of a replica life size Saturn V, standing sentinel at the JSC gate.

[Rodelu10915]

Mr. Apenyos would indulge us in these plans, being the warm-hearted sort that he is, what would be the goal? I say a three hundred foot Saturn V , with a built-in elevator and revolving capsule that can seat thirty at a time. The ride would last about ten minutes and give a 360 degree view of Nassau Bay. Souveniers may be aquired in the lobby gift shop on the first floor. The offices and restrooms are located in the boosters. Tickets a modest $10 for adults $5 for children 2 and under are free.

[Rodelu10915]

Oh, and cardboard cut-outs of the Astronauts are available for photographs near the snack bar.

[korgri]

Keep the capsule regulation size. Provide capsule access only by means of a fifteen foot 2x4 extended from a partially deployed gantry swingarm, and only casually propped on the lip of the CM's hatch. This insures a memorable visit and weeds out the unworthy. Charge Texas Stadium skybox rates for the privilege of attempting to sit in an Apollo CM. This would significantly emulate that element of genuine risk experienced by the real astronauts without going through all the training and stuff.

[madonhifi]

the rocket looks great after the refurb, yes they did go to the moon!! if you was alive at the time you would know!! geta life....

[FORCETHETRUTH]

too bad the moon landing was FAKED!

[adamjlynch]

I hope you're kidding. If not, it's time to shut up. You've been proven wrong.

[an147]

Was it faked? And all the rock samples the astronauts brought back to Earth from the moon, are fake too? Wake up, buddy!

[MGR1900]

Wow! I can't believe they let that thing decay like it did.

[Membrane556]

Yah it's almost as bad as how the Russians treat their old hardware.

[ariels36]

Where is this?

[LOLYugioh]

Houston*

[LOLYugioh]

I went to Hpuston the other day, saw a Saturn V rocket there!

[fortnightproductions]

i don't understand why they would cancel those missions if the rockets we're already made and only a little more money was required to fly them on such historic missions.

[longarms123]

you can go to the mueseum in huntsville alabama and 2 are on display 1 is a life size model though

[montrosepatriot]

The Saturn V @ JSC is the only one which that has flight-worthy hardware (S-I #SA 514, S-II #SA-515, S-IVB SA-513, and CSM-115); the one @ KSC @ the Cape has the rest of the SA-514 components (the S-I is a test stage).

The two Saturn Vs @ JSC and KSC were scheduled for the cancelled Apollo 18 or 19 missions; SA-515 (the last Saturn V built) was used for the Apollo Applications Program for a backup Skylab...

Marshall Huntsville has the mockup of the Saturn V, which are test stages.

[yohanan1969]

Awesome. But I'm amazed to see that what are arguably the most important vehicles ever built by man have been allowed to get into such a degraded state. They're surely worth preserving !!!

[falconlem]

This is America, why are you amazed? How many people do you know that even know what a Saturn V is ? not many I bet.

[Mardasee]

If I'm correct it was one lone individual who finally made a stink about it, about america allowing this piece of history to rot away, that the squeaky wheel was finally greased.

[bstep13]

I went to Houston with my grandparents in 1999i saw that monster there Legendary Rocket!!!!!!!!!!

[dwmzmm]

minga86, when was that? I've visited the building at JSC many times over the past six

months and have had no problems getting in to

see the Saturn - V. Are you referring to the

Huntsville Saturn - V?

[sedna69a]

Looks like it still needs some restoration. Look at the cracked and damaged paint and casing.

[jacko39]

u took the words righ tout of my mouth. its nowhere near restored if u ask me. just a partial re-assembly. but it still looks good.

[jacko39]

i stand corrected. they did restore one the building was around it.

[minga86]

I was at the space museum this morning and you still can,t get in to see the saturn v in that building. maybe soon

[echoscot]

Cool,nice job.