4 of 11 - A Judged Creation (A Grand Uprising) - Billy Crone

[gastarbeiter1]

This is so stupid. That guy hasn't heard anything about plate tectoniks, eh?

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 Brother if you could only see whats truly going on, satan has blinded the people to the truth of Yahuah "God" because if he can get people to believe that there is no Mighty One then that would mean no sin and no consequences, when if fact there is a creator and as merciful as He is, He is going to bring judgement on His creation one again very soon....... But it matters not because you are going to see very soon with your own eyes...

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme so plate tectonics have been invented by satan?^^"

And by the way why created this "merciful" creator first a perfect deceiver and then a easily deceivable species called mankind?Very just and mercyful^^

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter Hahaha im not talking about plate tectonics, im talking about if we go back into history and see why evolution was created and for what purpose, Oh no He did not created the deceiver His creation was perfect, but His creation decided to go against the creator so then Yahuah wanted to see who would follow him so He would then know who is faithful. And if you truly study evolution then you will know that it gos hand in hand with the alien deception thats coming. satan deceives...

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme Isn't satan equal to lucifer?isn't that a fallen angel.Aren't the angels also a creation of god?Isn'tz god allknowing and allpowerful?So didn't god know that lucifer will stand up and rebel and that he is the perfect deceiver?So he created lucifer for that final purpose.He knew what would happen.And then he created adam and eve who were deceivable as creation account shows.So he created the perfect deceiver plus he created creation deceivable.

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme Isn't satan equal to lucifer?isn't that a fallen angel.Aren't the angels also a creation of god?Isn'tz god allknowing and allpowerful?So didn't god know that lucifer will stand up and rebel and that he is the perfect deceiver?So he created lucifer for that final purpose.He knew what would happen.And then he created adam and eve who were deceivable as creation account shows.So he created the perfect deceiver plus he created creation deceivable.

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 Yes He new everything and the reason was like i said it all worked out perfectly because the whole plain was to create a god family and its sad that satan was up right in his own heart but Yahuah used this as a testing ground to see where is other created beings would stand....... you do not understand yet, but you will....... that there is a creator and Hes going to restore everything back the way it was before ^-^... Bruach Ata Yahuah "blessed be God" ^_^.......

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme so god really made a perfect deceiver plus he made people deceivable so in conclusion he made some people just for going to hell because he knew that they will go to hell when he creates them the way he then did.That seems to be a very sadistic god.

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 Hahah no no^^ what i am saying is that Yahuah created a perfect being. BUT it was by his own heart that he became deceived, you see Yahuah gives us all free will and he hopes we will follow Him because He knows whats best for us I.E being the creator of us all i would think so... But hell is not true it was made up by the catholic church to keep people in fear... No Yahuah will give people a chance do not worry to know the truth ^-^.......

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme but he also made the heart of that perfect being so he also created the seed of deceiveabillity.Sooooo...^^

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 Ahhh you see thats the whole beauty of love true love, He gave them him the choice of following His creator, His give him life, and beauty, and love, and wanted to see if He would follw Him to see if he really loved Yahuah, thats the whole beauty of our creator He did not create robots, he wants them to follow Him out of love and there own choice, He wants them to know that His way is life but if they turn there is nothing because going against the creator has no path.......

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme well somewhere eviel and the abillity to be deceived and a deceiver has to come from somewhere and as god is responsibly for creation..well it follows that god made these.^^

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 The ability to choose evil is just the, "to choose" Yahuah did not create evil, evil is the absence of the creator thats what you get when you go away from Him.......

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme How can you go away from infinity?How can evil be the absence of good then?and how can the absence of good have traits and a mind(what you would call satan)?

The analogy doesn't fit.A parent is not allknowing and allmighty neither is it infinite.

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 Because infinity is not apart of you, it is the presence you embrace... And how can you go away from that??? you ask me hahaha i still do not understand how anyone can go away from that U_U....... If you have a standard for what is right and what is good, then is you depart from what is right then you go into evil/darkness If Yahuah created everything and is creation its self, then He is the standard for what must stand... I.E good, justice, and righteousness...

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme well you see my dilemma?ow can be something infinite and infinitely good and still there can be evil(or absence of goodness)?

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 You are making a completely different observation, you are not judging the creator, the infinite being is and always will be that... but the created being is completely different, he is not the creator even tho he has some of the aspects of Him he is not him and, and is shows you that Yahuah can do anything wants... He could of been evil but choose to be good, He choose to be the best of what He is but His create being did not chose that

[nuggermyme]

Its like If you had a kid and wathed Him grow up and you loved and cared for your baby but all of a sudden he turns on you to destroy you, what would you do??? did you make Him do this??? did you make this evil come out of him??? no it was his choice to do this, thats what happen with satan he chose to do this evilness U_U... Its so sad.......

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme Evolution hand in hand with alien deception?^^You are funny.What has the study of earths biological history to do with aliens?

Evolution is just a scientific theory as the theory of general relativity or quantum mechanics is.all theories of science to explain the universe we live in.

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 Ahhhh no no evolution has 6 meanings to the word, 1Cosmic Evolution, then Chemical Evolution, then Stellar Evolution, Organic Evolution, Marco Evolution, and then 6 Micro Evolution, organic is just one form to the theory. But what i am talking about is the missing link to all evolution theories about single-celled organisms, but the aliens will come in and say that they created us and they our, our gods our makers... its very deceptive whats about to happen.......

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme Oh no...a classical hovind.No I just refer to biological evolution^^which includes or scratches three of them(the only difference between macro and micro is time and organic evolution seems to belong to one of those categories).what is you problem with single celled organisms?They are the oldest lifeforms known.so how do fit aliens in here?And how do you "know" such strange stuff?^^

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 Hahahaha a hovind lolol you crack me up lol. Oh no Microevolution is used to refer to changes in the gene pool of a population over time which result in relatively small changes to the organisms in the population. Were as, Macroevolution, in contrast, is used to refer to changes in organisms which are significant enough that, over time, the newer organisms would be considered an entirely new species, were as the out come is completely different as resulting in different categories

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme Your definition of microevolutiobn fits the definition of biologigacal evolution in general.Well specieation as such has been observed on sevral occasions.You can google this if you like or ask for some examples^^And no micro and macro is really just a matter of time.Small changes accumulate over time and result in bigger ones.So evolution as a scientific theory has been observed several times.and yes that was a classical hovind of you^^Know your enemy*g*

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 Yes they maybe simuler in manner but different meanings/out comes thats what i was getting at, when debating micro or marco you would have to evaluate the different fields of methods, they have varying different fields within each different context....... Hahahahah know your enemy hahaha... very true, but unfortunately for me i don't only have evolutionists, i have Catholics, Muslims, new agers, pagans ect, well not so much an emerys as deceived people >.<...

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme well at least you take it light^^ and by laughing.I like that^^oh no the only difference is time.The same method and the same context is used.Only time differes.Good luck for you^^

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 Hahaha yea i like you also lol your not like all the others i face that just want to kill me hahahah....... The thing is the method of time is through out all of the different methods of evolution, so time would not really separate the distinction between the two, it would be something more on the lines like, method I.E ultimate out come/function of the theory E.I the bases of the foundation of the method...

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme No my basis is to be as kind as possible and try to understand the arguement of the other person.Without that you won't get a healthy debate.But I really still don't understadn what you mean can you rephrase that?

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 Thats good, not many people are like that... Including me hahahah you see with me i will always stand for truth the Torah I.E Yahuah,,, and if there is only one way then all the rest are from satan designed to deceive and destroy.

Oh you said the only difference is time between the two, and i said that the method of time is through out all of the different methods of evolution, so time would not really separate the distinction between the two...

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme "Yahuah"is this the jewish style of writing?

Hm,but if god is infinite and created everything then satan is also of his creation.

Well as I said there is no real distinction between macro and micro.So yes^^

But how can we be separated from god if god is infinite?And I thought god is the perfect being.Can a perfect being be evil?Or is god not perfect?by the way can an allpowerful beind chose to be imperfect?^^

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 Ahhh yes Yahuah is the Hebrew term ^_^... His true name. Its like if you had a baby, would that baby be 100% you??? or could that baby choose to do its own things even tho if it meant disobeying you. And again infinite is a term to describe just that infinite He can do anything but He wants, but He choose not to be evil, and the fact He choose to be the greater good shows us how wonderful He truly is ^_^.......

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme You still refer to analogies that lack infiniteness,omnipotenz and allknowing of the parent^^

Wouldn't a perfect god be agod that can't be doubted?

And well so god as an evil side to him?Can a perfect being be evil?

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 Wait wait,,, omnipotent is all powerful, power is what? power in this case is showing His personalty, His presents, omnipotent is not a lack of good/evil, if anything it is showing His omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, because to have full knowledge of what is right you must know what is wrong... But we can define His character knowing that even tho the omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient being I.E Yahuah could choose evil He reframes from doing it because He knows the out come

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme well still how can a perfect being even be abel to choose evil doing?Doesn't make this it imperfect?Or is evil a part of his perfectness?

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 Its not the evil that makes Him perfect, the point to be truly perfect is not being able to do something that you can not do or be, but choosing not to do it even tho you can, thats what defines the true creator of creation, thats what makes Him Yahuah! ^-^....... And soon brother even tho you do not believe in Him you will see His power and know His presents very soon ^_^.......

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme if you think so.I doubt it(pun intended).Well so evil maybe part of his character?

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 Evil is only apart of His character if He choose evil, but He did not... The fact that if one of His creations had not gone bad then no one would of known that Yahuah could of chose evil, His creation were perfect it is beyond me why satan choose to do what he did. But again it was in His infinite plain that He had that He allowed satan to do what he did for the better good because now He knows that a 1/3 of the angles disobeyed but the others stayed faithful

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme so he has no problem with allowing evil.How can tzhis be that evil is not of him when he's infinite?

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 No no, He hates evil but he wants people to choose Him out of there own heart, He does not want to control robots and turn on the switch and say ok love me now... He wants them to be able to love Him with all there heart, even tho they can turn bad He wants them to turn to Him, because evil has no plan if the all existentant creator made everything and He Himself is what perfect is then going against what He is, is destruction because He can not be destroyed...

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme why then does he allow evil?How can a perfect being hate?Okay no robots.But god then is like a mafia boss.Obey me or rot in hell.What then is the sense of free will(its illusion).Why then does he leave a backdoor for his absence of good(of an infinite being..however that works)(evil) and then produces people to be easily deceited by that.That's very sadistic to me.

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 No you do not understand He created His beings for the purpose of severing Him and working for Him, He gave them life... It is His will what he wants to do with them, so if he created people for the sole purpose of following Him and serving Him in love in a perfect family then why would he keep someone that go's against His will? thats not what He created us for Its is not free will to sin, for sin is going against the whole principle is of existence its self.

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme why does a perfect being need servants?Why worikng for a god that can do anything?does he just need somebody to boost his ego?

Yes why would he want something that is against ghim?Why does he still use satan?He could easily do this himself.

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 It was a family He wanted, thats why satan got angry and tried to destroy his creation. ego??? ego is mans flaws not our creators, like i said He wanted a family to all work together under him in love and unity, but when He saw satan turn then He let satan test His other beings to see if they would follow the creator who gave them the very breath of life, or follow the created being who would lead them into destruction...

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme Why does a perfect being have wants?You humanize god as I do^^Why did satan got angry?And if god knew it.He could easily do a thing about it.He knew that satan would do from the beginning even before he created lucifer.And why run a test he knew from the beginning who would fail.

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 Have you ever thought it was not for His wants but in fact wanted to give for love???, and why did he get angry? because he did not want anyone else to be like him, if you read the Scriptures tell us this he was the anointed cherub so beautiful, until pride entered his heart... And again what is the reason for a test??? to see if you will pass or fail yes of course Yahuah new He would go bad but he used him as a testing ground for all His created beings....... ^-^...

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme You said that "he wanted a family".So it seems reasonable that it wa sfor his wants.Hm so where did pride come from?Must be from god he made the cherub this way right?

Why testing when you are a perfect being that knows everything.Doesn't make any sense to test when you know the outcome beforehand.You won't see any surprises.It makes him just a guy who wants to literally see his own creation fall.Seems pretty sadistic to me.

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 If you wanted to give your son a present for His birthday would it be for you??? or for him??? that is what He has done He gave life to His family as a perfect give not for His sake but your theres^^ No no pride comes from the absences of love, what is love? Yahuah is, so if you leave Yahuah then you get all the curses that come from leaven the eternal being.

Because a test truly reviles character that being that got tested new something that he did not know before.

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme You said he wanted to test.So why run the test when you know the outcome?Would you give your sun a gand say him don't point it to you and put the trigger.What do you think what would happen?That's how much he loves his creation.

So where does pride come from?If it is not part of God then god is not an omnipresent infinite being.And again how can you leave an omnipresent being?

Well but god knows before so he knew who would fail an go to hell with 100%.Still makes him pretty sadistic

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 Because you test to see the person, yes you know the out come but the person did not know the out come, the test is for the person and for the one giving the test.

So tell me what do you think the gun is in creation? if Yahuah put a gun in his creations hands what is the gun? life?

Like i said pride comes from lack of love, Yahuah is love BUT the created being is not omnipresent so when that created being leaves the omnipresent being who can he look at??? but only him self...

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme so god by doing the test sends people to hell because he knew that and which people can't stand the test.Such a filthy guy^^

The gun is satan.

How can some infinite and omnipresent being be absent?

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 No no hell is a mistranslated it means the lake of fire and one you burn you are dead, but if you are willing to go away from the creator then of course there is no need for you, why would Yahuah keep someone around that is going to go against his true ways??? If He is the creator of everything then His way is always perfect and anything thing else is nothing......

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme No I mean how is it physically possible to go away from something that is everywhere?

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 But what would distinguish between the two would be a fundamental bases, the ultimate outcome

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 But the aliens fit in as were single-celled organisms are extremely complex and that There’s no way they are going to ever figure out how inanimate matter can suddenly turn into a multi-thousand part, self propelled, eating, moving, reproducing, structured, organized cell, but if you had say an alien come and say we were the ones who create you, and that with a creator its all possible then it all becomes clear >.<... and this is whats going to take most people into deception...

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme Ah here there is a misunderstanding.I don't speak about modern single celled organisms I refer to old primitive ones.The first live must've have been extremely simple and primitive whereas the microbes anc bacteria we see today had also around 4 billion years of evolution behind them so of course they are complex.And no nobody thinks that this live came into existance suddenly this also was a slow process through several stages of organisation which we wouldn't call live.

[nuggermyme]

@gastarbeiter1 The thing is if you know about The second law of thermodynamics regardless of the pseudoscience that everything is is getting worst, everyone can see that, even from the frozen water molecules founds in the Antarctic about 3000 years ago they found and how perfect the molecule was come pared to our water, and also the air bubbles found in amber how to much purer the air was... Everything is devolving just like the Scriptures say...

[gastarbeiter1]

@nuggermyme water is always H2O it always looks the same.What do you think the difference is?

The 2nd law only applies to closed system.It doesn't work on the earth because its an open system^^

[lizazoon]

God is never going to put an end to anything. Nature will.

[SugarRose25]

@lizazoon God created the world and everything in it and natural disasters have arose since it is the end of time, and the Bible said this would happen. He controls nature and has the world in His hands. Check out the other videos in the series..aren't they great ?

[lizazoon]

@SugarRose25 He controls nature he. So was he asleep in Haiti ?? Was he asleep when the great Tsunami struck ? And the bible saying" this will happen" is no justification, for all the misery. And by the way, if creation is right, why do so many bible colleges teach Genesis is allegory and the flood was local ?

[lizazoon]

@SugarRose25 There is NO evidence that god created the world. If you have any, forward it to me, please.

[SugarRose25]

Wow, look at the size of those oysters! Whales on top of mountains. Facts show that the Bible is totally true and evolution is false.

[lizazoon]

@SugarRose25-- Facts show that the Bible is totally true and evolution is false--

How did you come to that silly conclusion ? They taught you that in bible school ?.

[SugarRose25]

@lizazoon Keep watching these videos--the evidence is so real & is pretty amazing. "Silly conclusion"?..Sweetie, that's what this whole series is about; the truth in the Word. ;) Well, since you asked...I actually have my degree in Biology & Environmental Studies & work at a lab (so Science is my forte'). The evidence is there and God is real. Reach out to Him, He loves you so much, "knock and door will be opened for you">> Peace

[lizazoon]

I@SugarRose25 So ,did you find god under the microscope ? What does he look like ? If god loves people so much, why does he always show his power in bringing misery to mankind. Did he ever bring water in abundance south of the Sahara ? Did he ever rain mana from heaven over the starving Ethiopians ? All he brings is misery and we are supposed to cry out to him " from the depth of our misery" LOVING GOD if you ask me !!

[SugarRose25]

@lizazoon Hey Lizazoon! ok--first questions first. How did I find God & what does God look like? God sought me & found me. While reading the Old Testment: Exodus 33:19-23 I read how God said that no one could see his face & live, how he covered Moses with His hand while Moses was in a cleft in a rock so that God could pass. This verse convicted my heart when I read it.

[SugarRose25]

@lizazoon I was into the occult & did Tarot constantly & actually prayed to an angel. It's a long story, how I got into that but basically was totally convicted in my heart of what I was doing. God actually doesn't want us to make images of himself. He is holy and invisable to us yet He is real.

[SugarRose25]

@lizazoon What does he look like? He created the world and eveything in it. I'd say that because of the nature of God, he is the most beautiful one in existance. He made us in His image. God so loved the world, He sent his only begotten Son that He whoever believes in Him will live forever. No greater love then someone dying for us.

[7olusegun]

@lizazoon

You are scoffing & telling me you are not!

The scoffers of Noah's time also said what Noah told them (about God sending a flood & rain upon the whole Earth & extinguishing all land life etc) was total baloney & also probably mocked him for building ship on dry land until the floods came & Noah had the last laugh!

The bible said this world will melt with fervent heat (i.e. is reserved unto fire with catastrophes never seen before) & you say it's all nonsense. Ain't you a scoffer?

[lizazoon]

@7olusegun Noah`s story is childish nonsense. Get an education

[lizazoon]

@7olusegun Noah is pure fantasy. Even many bible colleges teach that the flood was local.

[kdstyles]

@lizazoon God will not force himself on you so I ask you... do you watch and criticize these videos and the bible with a hardened heart and closed mind knowing (thinking) you already know what is true, or have you tried to take this serious and realize the salvation is just not for you?

[kdstyles]

continue... You can come down on those who have gotten the scirptures wrong, but that doesnt mean the bible or God is wrong. It just means the ones who really get it have to work that much harder to counteract the idiocracy. Most christians have gotten the scriptures wrong since roman catholethism (universal church) has "claimed" christianity

[lizazoon]

@kdstyles I cannot imagine, that god is asking me to put my brain to sleep . He gave me a brain to reason. To discern between what is true and what is false. between what is possible and what is not. And If I come to the wrong conclusion, using my god-given brain, then whose fault is that ? I see any evidence for the flood and Noah`s Ark.

In fact many bible colleges don`t even teach the flood. Why is that ?

[kdstyles]

@lizazoon I dont know about you, but ever since I truely got into the word my brain has worked harder than it EVER has. And when I look back at worldly/evolutionary teachings i felt dumbed down. There was more fantasy and fairytale type stories created than the bible could ever be. Now for the bible colleges that false teach the bible... what do you know of the antichrist?

[kdstyles]

continue... did you know that the antichrist is not someone who is all out in full view against christ (fault teaching of "anti") but someone who claims to be christ and changes laws and teaches of the word.... making sense yet. These are the signs of the last days. They are all in your face, but you come up with excuses of WHY WOULD GOD, WHY DIDNT GOD, etc...

[kdstyles]

continue 2... who are you or will you ever be to question what or why God? For he warned us of these times... Do not hold on too tight to what the world calls life. That is what causes the delusions and the WHY GOD questions. If you truely believe then you know there is more of life in his presence.

[lizazoon]

@kdstyles The antichrist is pure nonsense. There is no antichrist, no antichrisna, no antiallah. It`s pure fantasy. Any EVIDENCE ???

[kdstyles]

@lizazoon i see now that you are a Holy pop quiz lol. God is good for sure. Keep the questions coming because more and more christians need to know how to answer these. I pray that some day you find ALL the answer you are looking for that lead you to truth in Father God and Yashua (Jesus). Maybe on my off time I can come back and revisit. Have a God Filled day.

[Rainy64]

@lizazoon Many things in the Bible have been proven correct. (Archeology or through other civilizations recording the same events the Bible has.) Evolution...humans coming from slime under a rock? that's your decision. Micro evolution has occurred- changes WITHIN species....the slime to.....to apes ...to humans thing has NEVER been proven. There are NO fossils of transitional species. There's even speculation that humans may have been around with dinosaurs--"recently"-not millions of years ago

[lizazoon]

@SugarRose25 The bible is no science book. Evolution is true and has overwhelming evidence.

[unicron24]

org a nims ?????god bless

[Dejavu12321]

It's so obvious that we where lied to by the so called sci guys.  Christ Jesus goes beyond our puny minds can handle. He defeated death not einstein. Place your faith in him repent and believe. He died on the cross and took upon himself the full wrath of God so you can live.

[lizazoon]

@Dejavu12321 Nobody defeated death.

[SugarRose25]

@lizazoon It's what Easter is all about! Jesus died and rose again to save sinners like me & you. He has conquered death to set us free from sin. The power of Hell was broken as He gave His life away. Listen to "Via Dolorosa" by Leeland it gives the perfect depiction. You're in my prayers lizazoon.

[mcandles100]

@SugarRose25 The Bible teaches Jesus died on passover and was Raised on "First fruits " study the Biblical feasts cause you will find easter is a pagan holiday to a fertility goddess named Istar

[SugarRose25]

@mcandles100 I know that it was originally a Pagan holiday. It is also the day that Christian's celebrate the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ though. I know the orgins of it though, yeah.

[truthbeknowen]

I love his passion! God is soooooooo using him!!! God Bless you! I am already sharing this!

[Hakonbg]

Great video with tons of evidence both in the bible and in everything around us.

[youdosucas]

5/5 again! i wish i could as much as him!

[eclipsesonic]

Wow! And as Pastor Billy stated "How much more proof do we need?"

5/5!! Well done Pastor Billy!!

[krisv001]

very good video pastor Billy !

[BLUCOPPER123]

Great vid, god bless.