McCain was SO condescending there.... Wow what an asshole. Almost makes me happy he lost in 2008. Face it, John, you aren't worthy of being our president. Nobody cares what you went through in Vietnam anymore. The moment you become rude and condescending is the moment we all lose faith in you. Alan Keyes was, for once, being absolutely within his bounds, and THIS is the time McCain chooses to call him out? Wow... Just. Wow...
I noticed that all the pro-choicers here on this wall, have been allowed to have BEEN BORN! And McCain did not "tell off" Keyes; McCain was a question-dodging smart-ass.
McCain "told Alan off" by resorting to his war record rather than addressing the point Keyes was making. A common trick. I wish the video included if/how Keyes responded.
Slavery is not properly a political issue. Slavery is an ethical issue about which we will ALWAYS disagree. No matter what you believe, you have no legal & I believe no moral right to an opinion whether any person decides to have or not to have a slave. Slavery, despite your delusions is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. “I’m pro-choice. You don’t have to own a slave if you don’t want to but don’t impose your morality on me!” If slaveholders had come up with the "pro-choice" mantra...
Wow! Ambassador ALAN KEYES is AWESOME! His logic was SO MUCH HIGHER than these two other bozos that its awesome to hear. He is the only one REAL in the primaries. He doesn't contradict himself as Bush and especially McCain did. Much respect for ALAN KEYES (future President of the USA)
McCain's argument that because he fought in Vietnam no one can debate him on the sanctity of life is bullshit. He's a hypocrite. How can you make an act illegal by federal law and then go back and say it's a family decision? How can you make something illegal and then grant the "right" to decide to your family and no one else. McCain's entire argument is a logical fallacy.
Keyes is right on. It's a shame he was not the first black president.
Stop cheerleading you racist cunt. Keyes was waaay smarter than the both of them. I tell you what...the gay and abortion ordeal still haunted McCain in 2008! At the end of the day, Keyes had a valid point. Who gives a damn about how many more killings McCain had seen than Keyes.
@CazK88 Racist? What did I say? lol Keyes was WRONG on abortion. 3 men around a table discussing what rights a woman has. What a joke. Mccain has seen more killing than keyes.
How was Keyes wrong on abortion? He had spent two campaign runs on just the abortion issue and at least he stood on one principle and stuck with it. If you actually saw this full debate, he criticizes McCain that he favors pro-life with others, but not pro-life with his daughter; and that a true pro-life person would stick with those principles regardless of the affiliation of the person to you. Again, so what if McCain has seen more killings. He almost died himself! LOL.
@CazK88 B/c he thinks the woman's body is out of the question. The man has gone mad. As for Mccains daughter, is it not her body? B/c Mccain has seen enough killing, he doesnt need to hear Keyes preach to him about life and death. Keyes may be right on other issues (immigration, low taxes, etc). But he is wrong on abortion.
Abortion alone doesn't cause a person to get elected into the presidency. Don't you understand?! Keyes is an intellectual, FAR smarter than Bush and McCain combined and at anytime would've placed this country in a better standing if he were president in 2000. Bush should've picked him as VP but Keyes didnt want it. I'm sure he was a thought.
Like I said, he would've been a far better candidate...but trust me race was a factor then and Bush looked the appeal to those of his ilk. And even you voted for him BOTH times.
HE was right on a lot of things, Bush and McCain both were wrong and it was proven 8 years later from this. Iraq was not a major concern in 2000. Read your history. They had nothing else to talk about that was in any grave matter (like a 9/11), so traditional issues like abortion, death penalty were put into play during this time.
But in 2001 Keyes made a commentary supporting it. No mention of the constitution or congress there. In fact its on YT. Keyes is wrong on abortion. Totally out of touch.
Tell me what good is it just shooting him down on one issue? Abortion was not the center issue in 2000 nor after 2001. I never heard conservatives shoot Bush down when he mentioned the very expensive prescription drug program. He talked about that in the 2000 campaign too. Keyes had the intelligence far greater than both of McCain and Bush. Hands down.
He is wrong on abortion, iraq, education (says we took god out of our schools and that is why our Ed. system is failing...what BS), interventional war (says america should intervene in issues going on in other countries( wow what a success that was in 3 countries), and gay marriage (doesnt even believe in civil union. However yes is right on taxes...they need to be lower...lol.
LOL, well this is a ten year old debate man, so I really care less. All three of them weren't good for our country and we have proven that on a number of ways, but we can debate on 2012...and I say 2012 is going Democratic again. There is no valid GOP candidate and the more you start to see signs of improvement in the economy, etc., the more the people feel comfortable with Democratic leadership. More of a De ja vu of the Clinton era.
I did not "disregard" your comment. I disagree with your conclusion. I believe it is false, in fact, I believe it's ridiculous. That is my opinion, you have the right to disagree. What you refuse to understand is: there are other valid OPINIONS. You're not God & you don't speak for God. Your OPINION can dominate your own conscience; it means nothing in my house. Abortion is legal. Fanatics, like you, cause wars and destroy political parties. The Republican Party can have ALL of you.
John McCain was an admirable man then. After his defeat in 2000, John McCain sold his soul to get the nomination of a brain-dead GOP. He gained the nomination of a party that has a screw loose, then lost the election, because he no longer believed in the candidate. McCain's 2008 campaign was sad. He was weak & dispirited. Man can not live by ambition alone.
Abortion is not a political issue; making it one divides us when we need unity. It was useful when there was something left to steal.
Abortion is not properly a political issue. Abortion is a medical & ethical issue about which we will ALWAYS disagree. No matter what you believe, you have no legal & I believe no moral right to an opinion whether a woman --- who is not your wife, daughter, mother or lover --- decides to have or not to have an abortion. That abortion, despite your delusions is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
As a political issue abortion is a way for fools to give their votes to thieves. Think the GOP really cares?
@joeyfotofr The eugenics and human rights abuses of Nazi Germany didn't create political strain in the world during the 1930's? This most certainly is a political issue, relating to the states power concerning laws in relation to the citizenry.
John McCain's position as expressed here is not consistent with either party. He is certainly not pro-choice which is the American position, IF you believe in the separation of church and state, which the GOP clearly does not. But this is old news... The country has real problems and for the moment will not be diverted by wedge issues which none of these people really care about except to manipulate fools in order to get elected... If you want to see what politicians believe, follow the money.
One thing has held constant; Alan Keyes is still nuts. He seems unaware that his rabid Roman Catholicism makes him unfit for public office in a pluralistic society. He's either unaware or he just doesn't care & likes to hear his voice. Thankfully, voters have spoken loud&clear about his unfitness, making it plain for everyone to see... everyone, that is, except Alan Keyes.
Now he's moved from the political fringe to the lunatic fringe, Alan Keyes' only role is to inspire fools to violence.
GO ALAN!!! PRO LIFERS AND THE MOST NON-PREJUDICE PEOPLE ON THE PLANET! ALAN KEYS FOR PRESIDENT! OBAMA GO BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE BORN!! KENYA !!!!!!! Its against the constitution for that baby killer OBAMA to be president
Alan Keyes is a liar who relies of fools like you.
Alan Keyes has never been elected to anything, because for all of his moralistic pretensions he has no character. Men of character don't slander their adversaries with stupid demonstrable lies. By repeating those lies you have made yourself a joke. Please keep it up, because a majority of he American people are not so stupid; we find your ignorance bigotry and cowardice offensive. Keep your GiftOfLies.
By the way, Barack Obama is President of the United States and Alan Keyes is nothing. Nothing, that is, but the moral fraud, liar and fool that he has always been.
Keep voting for Keyes. That way your wasted vote just like your wasted lies will have zero impact on actual politics on the planet earth.... Alan Keyes is slime.
PS. Remember the results when Keys ran against Obama for the US Senate? 70% to 27%. The race was never actually that close. Palin/Keyes in 2012 GO GO Go to Hell.
GOD ALAN!!! PRO LIFERS AND THE MOST NON-PREJUDICE PEOPLE ON THE PLANET! ALAN KEYS FOR PRESIDENT! OBAMA GO BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE BORN!! KENYA !!!!!!! Its against the constitution for that baby killer OBAMA to be president
Wow. Apprently McCain has been pimping this POW shit his whole political career. What an asshole. How much killing could he possibly have seen? He wasn't in combat! Fuck! I honestly don't care for Obama that much since he seems rather gutless and unwilling to defend his own positions with any vigor, but I can't vote for McCain...
@allencrider McCain didnt lie. He did support it, but unfortunately he has been hijacked by the right wing, and had to pander to them to get the nomination.
Three of the world's biggest doushebags, all in one room!
philberz 8 months ago
mccain says he's seen enough killing, but he was really supportive of the iraq war. um.....ok?
exbronco1980 9 months ago
Neither Bush nor McCain are Pro life.
:(
The way they speak is disgusting.
amberose91 9 months ago
McCain was SO condescending there.... Wow what an asshole. Almost makes me happy he lost in 2008. Face it, John, you aren't worthy of being our president. Nobody cares what you went through in Vietnam anymore. The moment you become rude and condescending is the moment we all lose faith in you. Alan Keyes was, for once, being absolutely within his bounds, and THIS is the time McCain chooses to call him out? Wow... Just. Wow...
rsaettone234 11 months ago
keyes was a joke.
TeslaDRay 1 year ago
John McCain embarrasses George Bush.
mitchblatt1dot1com 1 year ago
I noticed that all the pro-choicers here on this wall, have been allowed to have BEEN BORN! And McCain did not "tell off" Keyes; McCain was a question-dodging smart-ass.
zelvadrian 1 year ago
McCain "told Alan off" by resorting to his war record rather than addressing the point Keyes was making. A common trick. I wish the video included if/how Keyes responded.
michaeldowntown 1 year ago
Slavery is not properly a political issue. Slavery is an ethical issue about which we will ALWAYS disagree. No matter what you believe, you have no legal & I believe no moral right to an opinion whether any person decides to have or not to have a slave. Slavery, despite your delusions is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. “I’m pro-choice. You don’t have to own a slave if you don’t want to but don’t impose your morality on me!” If slaveholders had come up with the "pro-choice" mantra...
michaeldowntown 1 year ago 2
@michaeldowntown Love the analogy. It is right on.
noisythink 1 year ago
So how is Ambassador Keyes' statement crazy?
A true Catholic and a true Republican.
butterboy24 1 year ago
Mccain should have beaten bush
ChaoticSouls 2 years ago
I love how mccain told alan OFF !!!
kmcl11 2 years ago 5
Wow! Ambassador ALAN KEYES is AWESOME! His logic was SO MUCH HIGHER than these two other bozos that its awesome to hear. He is the only one REAL in the primaries. He doesn't contradict himself as Bush and especially McCain did. Much respect for ALAN KEYES (future President of the USA)
divine137 2 years ago
NO! Keyes wants ab outlawed and doc and women jailed. There is no negotiating with him....he is sooo wrong on homosex, stem cell, abortion, etc
kmcl11 2 years ago 7
agree and im republican and think keyes is nuts!!
raiders4life2010 2 years ago 4
yeah it would be nice if he could give a straight answer.
kmcl11 2 years ago 5
Oh, wow. I'm usually don't agree with everything McCain says, but he's right on when it comes to this subject.
pissedoffdude1 2 years ago
McCain's argument that because he fought in Vietnam no one can debate him on the sanctity of life is bullshit. He's a hypocrite. How can you make an act illegal by federal law and then go back and say it's a family decision? How can you make something illegal and then grant the "right" to decide to your family and no one else. McCain's entire argument is a logical fallacy.
Keyes is right on. It's a shame he was not the first black president.
coolsywtf 2 years ago 3
Crazy Keyes thinks the womans body is out of the question....and mccain is right ..he's seen much more killing that keyes has
feldman30012 2 years ago 7
@feldman30012
Stop cheerleading you racist cunt. Keyes was waaay smarter than the both of them. I tell you what...the gay and abortion ordeal still haunted McCain in 2008! At the end of the day, Keyes had a valid point. Who gives a damn about how many more killings McCain had seen than Keyes.
CazK88 1 year ago
@CazK88 Racist? What did I say? lol Keyes was WRONG on abortion. 3 men around a table discussing what rights a woman has. What a joke. Mccain has seen more killing than keyes.
feldman30012 1 year ago
@feldman30012
How was Keyes wrong on abortion? He had spent two campaign runs on just the abortion issue and at least he stood on one principle and stuck with it. If you actually saw this full debate, he criticizes McCain that he favors pro-life with others, but not pro-life with his daughter; and that a true pro-life person would stick with those principles regardless of the affiliation of the person to you. Again, so what if McCain has seen more killings. He almost died himself! LOL.
CazK88 1 year ago
@CazK88 B/c he thinks the woman's body is out of the question. The man has gone mad. As for Mccains daughter, is it not her body? B/c Mccain has seen enough killing, he doesnt need to hear Keyes preach to him about life and death. Keyes may be right on other issues (immigration, low taxes, etc). But he is wrong on abortion.
feldman30012 1 year ago
@feldman30012
Abortion alone doesn't cause a person to get elected into the presidency. Don't you understand?! Keyes is an intellectual, FAR smarter than Bush and McCain combined and at anytime would've placed this country in a better standing if he were president in 2000. Bush should've picked him as VP but Keyes didnt want it. I'm sure he was a thought.
CazK88 1 year ago
Like I said. He is wrong on this issue and others. He needs to leave abortion alone. He is so extreme on this issue.
feldman30012 1 year ago
@feldman30012
Like I said, he would've been a far better candidate...but trust me race was a factor then and Bush looked the appeal to those of his ilk. And even you voted for him BOTH times.
CazK88 1 year ago
HE would have been better on some issues. He was wrong on Iraq though.
feldman30012 1 year ago
@feldman30012
HE was right on a lot of things, Bush and McCain both were wrong and it was proven 8 years later from this. Iraq was not a major concern in 2000. Read your history. They had nothing else to talk about that was in any grave matter (like a 9/11), so traditional issues like abortion, death penalty were put into play during this time.
CazK88 1 year ago
But in 2001 Keyes made a commentary supporting it. No mention of the constitution or congress there. In fact its on YT. Keyes is wrong on abortion. Totally out of touch.
feldman30012 1 year ago
@feldman30012
Tell me what good is it just shooting him down on one issue? Abortion was not the center issue in 2000 nor after 2001. I never heard conservatives shoot Bush down when he mentioned the very expensive prescription drug program. He talked about that in the 2000 campaign too. Keyes had the intelligence far greater than both of McCain and Bush. Hands down.
CazK88 1 year ago
He is wrong on abortion, iraq, education (says we took god out of our schools and that is why our Ed. system is failing...what BS), interventional war (says america should intervene in issues going on in other countries( wow what a success that was in 3 countries), and gay marriage (doesnt even believe in civil union. However yes is right on taxes...they need to be lower...lol.
feldman30012 1 year ago
@feldman30012
LOL, well this is a ten year old debate man, so I really care less. All three of them weren't good for our country and we have proven that on a number of ways, but we can debate on 2012...and I say 2012 is going Democratic again. There is no valid GOP candidate and the more you start to see signs of improvement in the economy, etc., the more the people feel comfortable with Democratic leadership. More of a De ja vu of the Clinton era.
CazK88 1 year ago
I did not "disregard" your comment. I disagree with your conclusion. I believe it is false, in fact, I believe it's ridiculous. That is my opinion, you have the right to disagree. What you refuse to understand is: there are other valid OPINIONS. You're not God & you don't speak for God. Your OPINION can dominate your own conscience; it means nothing in my house. Abortion is legal. Fanatics, like you, cause wars and destroy political parties. The Republican Party can have ALL of you.
joeyfotofr 2 years ago
John McCain was an admirable man then. After his defeat in 2000, John McCain sold his soul to get the nomination of a brain-dead GOP. He gained the nomination of a party that has a screw loose, then lost the election, because he no longer believed in the candidate. McCain's 2008 campaign was sad. He was weak & dispirited. Man can not live by ambition alone.
Abortion is not a political issue; making it one divides us when we need unity. It was useful when there was something left to steal.
joeyfotofr 2 years ago
Unity in government means nothing if we sanction the killing of the innocent.
I'd much rather take division over injustice.
noisythink 2 years ago
Abortion is not properly a political issue. Abortion is a medical & ethical issue about which we will ALWAYS disagree. No matter what you believe, you have no legal & I believe no moral right to an opinion whether a woman --- who is not your wife, daughter, mother or lover --- decides to have or not to have an abortion. That abortion, despite your delusions is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
As a political issue abortion is a way for fools to give their votes to thieves. Think the GOP really cares?
joeyfotofr 2 years ago 2
I believe you completely disregarded my comment that abortion is the killing of an innocent human life.
That is not a medical or even ethical issue, it is a matter of law and justice.
If you believe that a fetus is not a human being or that some human beings don't have rights, then make the case for that.
noisythink 2 years ago
do you got the whole debate?
electricguitarplayr 2 years ago
@joeyfotofr The eugenics and human rights abuses of Nazi Germany didn't create political strain in the world during the 1930's? This most certainly is a political issue, relating to the states power concerning laws in relation to the citizenry.
Nebel64 1 year ago
He should have switched parties. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he consider switching?
cutedude22 2 years ago
John McCain's position as expressed here is not consistent with either party. He is certainly not pro-choice which is the American position, IF you believe in the separation of church and state, which the GOP clearly does not. But this is old news... The country has real problems and for the moment will not be diverted by wedge issues which none of these people really care about except to manipulate fools in order to get elected... If you want to see what politicians believe, follow the money.
joeyfotofr 2 years ago
One thing has held constant; Alan Keyes is still nuts. He seems unaware that his rabid Roman Catholicism makes him unfit for public office in a pluralistic society. He's either unaware or he just doesn't care & likes to hear his voice. Thankfully, voters have spoken loud&clear about his unfitness, making it plain for everyone to see... everyone, that is, except Alan Keyes.
Now he's moved from the political fringe to the lunatic fringe, Alan Keyes' only role is to inspire fools to violence.
joeyfotofr 2 years ago
man McCain dont shut up!!
xrxelementxrx 3 years ago
GO ALAN!!! PRO LIFERS AND THE MOST NON-PREJUDICE PEOPLE ON THE PLANET! ALAN KEYS FOR PRESIDENT! OBAMA GO BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE BORN!! KENYA !!!!!!! Its against the constitution for that baby killer OBAMA to be president
TheGiftOfLife 3 years ago 2
Alan Keyes is a liar who relies of fools like you.
Alan Keyes has never been elected to anything, because for all of his moralistic pretensions he has no character. Men of character don't slander their adversaries with stupid demonstrable lies. By repeating those lies you have made yourself a joke. Please keep it up, because a majority of he American people are not so stupid; we find your ignorance bigotry and cowardice offensive. Keep your GiftOfLies.
joeyfotofr 2 years ago
By the way, Barack Obama is President of the United States and Alan Keyes is nothing. Nothing, that is, but the moral fraud, liar and fool that he has always been.
Keep voting for Keyes. That way your wasted vote just like your wasted lies will have zero impact on actual politics on the planet earth.... Alan Keyes is slime.
PS. Remember the results when Keys ran against Obama for the US Senate? 70% to 27%. The race was never actually that close. Palin/Keyes in 2012 GO GO Go to Hell.
joeyfotofr 2 years ago
GOD ALAN!!! PRO LIFERS AND THE MOST NON-PREJUDICE PEOPLE ON THE PLANET! ALAN KEYS FOR PRESIDENT! OBAMA GO BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE BORN!! KENYA !!!!!!! Its against the constitution for that baby killer OBAMA to be president
TheGiftOfLife 3 years ago
hahahah....baby killer my ass
kmcl11 2 years ago 5
McCain needs to shut up. That black man hit it the nail on the head.
CatzDaLegit 3 years ago 2
Thats why I did not vote for McCain Or Obama, I voted for Keyes (the black man) in this last election.
drifter1robertg 3 years ago
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god, i hate mccain. OBAMA/BIDEN 08
lapointe1333 3 years ago
John was so young then.
UrTheist 3 years ago 4
Yea, like 65 maybe
CatzDaLegit 3 years ago 2
Well, 64 yrs old, but still lol.
He is noticeably younger in the sense that I see the resemblance of his military youth better. Maybe its the eyebrows I don't know...
thefloacist 3 years ago 2
He was so much older then
He's younger than that now...
ComplexKid441 3 years ago
Once again, proof that John McCain is a liar when compared to the spew he's saying today. I'm voting for Obama.
allencrider 3 years ago
Wow. Apprently McCain has been pimping this POW shit his whole political career. What an asshole. How much killing could he possibly have seen? He wasn't in combat! Fuck! I honestly don't care for Obama that much since he seems rather gutless and unwilling to defend his own positions with any vigor, but I can't vote for McCain...
Vedj3 3 years ago
well, then vote for Ron Paul
derfthenukes 3 years ago
@allencrider McCain didnt lie. He did support it, but unfortunately he has been hijacked by the right wing, and had to pander to them to get the nomination.
Kimmis1990 2 months ago