Guitar Through Reason Synths (Pt. 1) | Propellerhead Record + Reason

[Loopcyclemusic]

Very nice sounds. Does the guitar have to be recorded to use the synths with it? Or can you do this live, while playing? I do LIve Looping and am interested in the approach of using Reason as a multi effects for guitar and/or voice during gigs.

[line6movies]

@Loopcyclemusic Thanks - glad you like the sounds! No, the guitar does not have to be recorded - you can play it live. For the video, I used previously recorded guitar because then I could use my mouse to adjust parameters without having to play guitar at the same time. :-)

[Treflex]

is it possible to play live guitar in reason with my guitar hooked up to the mic input on my computer with an auxillary cable?

[line6movies]

@Treflex If you have the latest version of Reason (Reason 6), then yes. However, the mic input on your computer, while it will work, may not sound perfect because it is not optimized for guitar. The sound may be distorted or noisy. Worth a try, though! (I was using a Line 6 audio interface that had a dedicated guitar input.)

[Treflex]

@line6movies awesome, it works! hehe yeah might not be...live rig-worthy, but fun to play around with

[Gemendelos]

Cool video : ) Reason is really a great program, i like it. Lots of nice plugins and its good that you can use it with other programs , like cubase etc. If you want to listen to some really good electronic music you can check my channel and have a listen if you feel like it : )

[peakeleven]

This I must test myself. Great tip! =)

//Mike

[ThereatGrumbleMorn]

I've been a first hour Reason User but I never really considered using the Malström like this. Awesome idea.

[fortgreene31]

cool video and nice info peace

[acey45]

This is going wayyyyyy over my head.

[ihategiovannyreyes]

Can you please email me a guitar patch? :)

[disasterpiecemusic]

sorry Matt *not Chris



[disasterpiecemusic]

Chris, I just recently made the switch from live HW synths (nord, juno etc) to an Akai MPK88 and A dedicated reason/record laptop. Its been the best decision i've made in a while and i've been using record to do real time vocoding, and guitar etc... to get to the point i've been trying to surprise the guys at rehearsal using my guitar as a synth and thanks to this clear tutorial and simple instruction I can - rock on and your music kicks butt, too!

[line6movies]

@disasterpiecemusic Thanks for a great comment that put a smile on my face! :-)

[elecrandmek]

Search CWLeMusic for music made on reason :)

[antagony69]

holly fuking shit.....theres still shit loads i need to learn

ps:loved ur experimental song sounds fukin great

[line6movies]

@antagony69 Thanks!

[chrisw142]

how did you hook up your guitar to the computer??

[line6movies]

@chrisw142 I connected it to my Line 6 audio interface (Line 6 UX 1 was used for this video), although any professional audio interface with an instrument input could be used. The audio interface connects to the computer via USB. For more info, please search for my video called: How to Record a Song - Part 1: Set Up

[chrisw142]

@line6movies thanks! i will!

[eduardoteixeirajj]

sky's the limit

[jonQuest82]

Whoa this board is sterile. I understand that, you do have an interest in Line6 products and their relationship with Reason, any mention of other DAW's will likey get axed.

[line6movies]

Reason and Record work great via ReWire with ProTools, Logic, Ableton Live, Cubase, and any DAW with ReWire support. Furthermore, Record's Bounce Mixer Channels feature easily and quickly exports your stems for import into another DAW. (Neither of our comments will be axed.)

;-)

[jonQuest82]

@line6movies hahahha def don't wanna turn this into a "my DAW is better than your DAW" discussion, heaven knows there's enough of those, just trying to answer an overly generalized question. Respeck, my friend. Cool videos.

[line6movies]

Thanks jonQuest82! :-)



[ChatterFreeze]

Where do you get the line 6 guitar amp?

[line6movies]

@ChatterFreeze It comes with the Propellerhead Record software.

[mactipiak]

That Malstrom Ring modulator is great at 2:56

[DiscoverGuitarOnline]

very cool!

[ListenToOurTorture]

whats the difference between reason and all the other programs out there? cuz i want a program that can do ALOT, i want to make a lot of sounds. like all the cool stuff and effects you hear on trance music and soundtracks.

[line6movies]

@ListenToOurTorture Reason is unique in the way it simulates a hardware rack full of synths, drum machines, loop players, and effects that you can connect the same way you would connect real hardware equipment in a studio. Most people find Reason to be easy to use, and are able to start making music quickly. It comes with a ton of sounds, and is known for being fun and inspiring to use, actually helping you make more music. It's great for designing your own sounds, too.

[peoplecallmejimbo]

@ListenToOurTorture The realistic sounds, sound way better than most other softwares like piano and they have great sounding accoustic drums.

[jonQuest82]

@ListenToOurTorture a caveat --Reason is easier to pick up if you've come from a hardware environment where you've used racks full of synths, effects etc. If you learned on software i.e. FL studio, which is most beginners' starting point, there will be slower learning curve. Reason is very powerful, but I prefer Ableton Live for composing, all of my tools are in the margin waiting for a drag and drop (like FL)--no series of menus for each device. It's easy to lose time browsing in Reason.

[plasticpunch]

what is the rack you wrote the guitar?

[line6movies]

@plasticpunch I'm not sure what you mean... are you asking about the red Line 6 virtual amp device? Or what preset I used?

[DanieldelAngel]

Hey, someone tell me how to open or find the virtual instrument LINE 6, Reason 5? I have a PODxt Live Guitar Processor. Thanks.

[line6movies]

@DanieldelAngel Sorry for the delayed response. The Line 6 amp device is included with Propellerhead Record. If you own a registered copy of Reason 5, you could purchase Record for Reason Owners to gain this functionality.

[yungkook]

please, can we record a real guitar on reason ? if we can, how can i do this one please ?

[line6movies]

@yungkook You cannot record audio into Reason's sequencer. To record audio into the sequencer, you need Reason + Record. However, the latest version of Reason (Reason 5) does include sampling capability, so you could record samples (30 seconds max each) of your guitar directly into Reason, and trigger those samples with Kong, NN-XT, NN-19, or Redrum. However, if you don't have Record, you won't have the Line 6 amp device shown in the video.

[DanieldelAngel]

@line6movies Hey, someone tell me how to open or find the virtual instrument LINE 6, Reason 5? I have a PODxt Live Guitar Processor. Thanks

[Zentralbank911]

I'm really happy that I just have to pick up my guitar to make some music ;-)

A friend of mine uses Reason, he can't play an instrument. But he created many music tracks which sound great.

[ernst4321]

will this work for reason 5??

[line6movies]

@ernst4321 Yes, this will work for Reason 5. If you don't have Record, then you won't have the Line 6 amp device shown in the video, but now that Reason 5 has audio inputs for sampling, you can play live instruments through the Reason synth filters and effects. However, you would still need Record 1.5 to record the audio parts into the sequencer.

[gwb911]

2:26 this interface makes me want to be bi bolar...

[marcintolas]

I'd never think of mahlstrom as such a great fx device - try to route thru it fe. redrum or rex - crazy!

thank You line6

[dekkuhr]

Nice video,

Do you have advices for me how to put my video´s on youtube without losing quality? When i put my video with the reason file on youtube, i loose quality in the drums. They sound a little softer then the drums on my hard disc. I use megui with nero aac 256 kbs settings, 48.000 hz. do you have settings for me so that i don't loose quality on youtube in my music?

[MaartenGibson]

I have a guitar and reason software do I need an very expensive high-end soundcard to make this work??

[line6movies]

@MaartenGibson You do not need an expensive sound card, but you do need one with an instrument input that is designed for music recording. You might want to check out the Line 6 POD Studio™ GX. It is an inexpensive but high-quality guitar recording interface that connects via USB.

To actually record your guitar as shown in the video, you will need Propellerhead Record software, in addition to Reason. If you have a full registered copy of Reason, check out "Record for Reason Owners."

[MaartenGibson]

@line6movies Thanks!!

[peterm3964]

Ok thats awesome .

[sandroslb]

Great tutorial my friend!!!

I like to know is if possible play live the guitar, with that kind of fx.

Is possible?

Thank you!!!!!

[line6movies]

@sandroslb Absolutely. As long as your bring your laptop and an audio interface with an instrument input to the gig, you can do exactly what's in the video.

[auberge4]

Interesting video. Can't wait to see how it rewires to Nuendo.

[BTIshimura]

Woo! Record!

[CentrebreakDnb]

Where can i get the line 6 guitar amp from ?

[line6movies]

@CentrebreakDnb

The Line 6 Guitar Amp device you see in the video is included with the Propellerhead Record software. If you are a registered owner of Reason 4, and also own Record, then when you launch Record, all the Reason devices are already inside (along with the new Record devices, like the Line 6 amp).

[Chris08TT]

i never thought music was this complicated!!!Holy shit

[line6movies]

@Chris08TT

Ha ha! Reason and Record are actually very easy to use, but sometimes (ok, often) I like to go into deeply nerdy territory and "tinker under the hood." It doesn't have to be nearly as complicated as I make it seem! :)

[illDiology]

Just wanted to say two things:

1. This is a great tutorial and the guitar sounds fantastic through those Malmstrom filters

2. Am I completely missing something, or is Propellerheads being dicks making stuff like this only possible if you buy Record? Is there some technical reason that Reason cannot be run in a VST mode or something? Doing stuff like this should not require buying a completely new product - it should just act as a well-behaved vst with full input-output.

[line6movies]

@illDiology

1. Thanks! :)

2. Reason has always been MIDI-only, with no audio input, since version 1 was released in 2000. It has consistently been one of the most stable and cpu efficient music software applications ever made. Last year, Record was released: an extremely easy-to-use recording platform that integrates seamlessly with Reason. "Record for Reason Owners" is a great deal, because for not much more money than a Reason upgrade, Reason owners get upgraded to Reason 5 & Record 1.5.

[line6movies]

@DogSeal0 No, Record is necessary to provide audio input for any of the Reason devices. (Reason 5 will provide sampling inputs for NN-XT, NN-19, Redrum, and Kong, but no live audio input for the synths like Malström and Thor. For that you will still need Record.)

[line6movies]

@DogSeal0 Sorry, I accidentally deleted your comment: "Can this kind of thing be done routing audio out of Cubase as a DAW into Reason's effects rack?"

[DogSeal0]

@line6movies Ok Cheers I'll look iton Record a little then

[Meteotrance]

this trick work with and without pod effect it's amazing !!!

[aarunt1]

do you need a POD to do this? please respond! thanks

[line6movies]

@aarunt1 You do not need a POD. Any audio interface that will allow you to get a guitar signal into an audio recording program will work. All the effects are happening within Record (plus Reason). The Line 6 Guitar Amp device you see in the video is included with the Record software.

[foxtweeg]

sheer genius! that was one amazing tip, thanks for sharing! :)

[roccotanto]

this is a GREAT demo........guitar for the future!

[stinkstabber62]

That was fucking awesome! But goddamnit I hate how shysty prophead can be sometimes with their software policies.

[BEANOSBEATZBERLIN]

this is really great !!! thanx for posting !!!

[line6movies]

I've just posted "Propellerhead Record + Reason: Playing Guitar Through the Reason Synths (Part 2)" which demonstrates how to process the guitar with Thor.

[gingergiblet]

I don't have line 6 amp :S

Where can I get it from??

[line6movies]

If you have Propellerhead Record software, the Line 6 amp is built-in. You'll find it in the Devices list in the Tool Window, and also in the Create Menu.

[gingergiblet]

@line6movies

Ah, propellerhead record, I have reason, will have to 'invest'.

Cheers :)

[surfersamu1]

hey.. i would like to know... what did u study? like i would love to know whats the sound going to sound like if a turn a knob?..

I wanna be a producer im currently learning how to play pianoo. but i need to know how synths work... but idk what do u study for that.

[line6movies]

I actually wrote a book to teach exactly that: "What's the sound going to sound like if I turn a knob." The book is called "Using Reason's Virtual Instruments," and it's available on Amazon. It was written for Reason 3 (so Thor isn't in it), but if you read that book, you will understand how synths work. The great thing about Reason is that whatever you learn there works for real analog synths, modular synths, etc. Btw, I am mostly self-taught, but I also researched synth manuals & Wikipedia!

[vileguile]

Very inspiring, ill get to work right away!

Owner of: UX1, Variax 600, Floor Pod Plus, all modelpacks and Reason/Record. With all those sonical options i have, it's good with videos like this when your brain gets overloaded!

[DionMarinos]

I tryed to get my guitar to work in reason but couldn't figure it out . Thanks for sharing this with us man. I look forward to more tutorials :D

[RodHullIOnceWasHim]

Please help!

I'm trying to do the same thing with the Subtractor and Thor and can't figure it out.

Could you make a vid showing how to do this and more importantly, explain how it works?

LOVED THIS VID! By the way. Subbed!

[line6movies]

I'm afraid it won't work with Subtractor, because Subtractor doesn't have an audio input.

It will work with Thor (if you also have Record), but Thor's user interface for handling signal routing is much different than Malstrom's.

If you want to start a very lively discussion and get lots of great info about how to do this with Thor, I suggest asking that question on the User Forum on the Propellerhead website. I'm likely to join in that discussion too!

[line6movies]

Hey-- thanks for your comment. It helped motivate me to make a guitar-through-Thor patch, and I've just posted it on my Line 6 blog that goes with this video. The blog post is called "Propellerhead Record + Reason: Playing Guitar Through the Reason Synths." You can download the "Twin Thors Guitar" Combinator patch from that page.

[RodHullIOnceWasHim]

Cool man, excellent. I just closed reason by mistake whilst I was making my voice add enphasis to a bass line. Gerrr!

I'll play around with your info for a bit instead.

Cheers!

[FrancescoK]

As a progmetal guitarist, this is an unusual sound to me, but it seems a brilliant technique. And yes, it definitely gives me some ideas! :)

[zut25]

what audio ineterface did you use to plug in your guitar?

this is awesome

Propellerheads is awesone!

[line6movies]

Thanks for your comment! To answer your question: Line 6 POD Studio UX1 is the audio interface I used for the guitar.

[p00lman]

Nice tutorial. Any suggestions about how to make a clean metal guitar sound? I'm talking about something like GnR.

[guibr18]

Awesome! it sound sound amazing live...thanks!

[ethericloopz]

Eight years ago I was telling everybody that Propellerhead makes the best software... Now I don't even need to say anything... but just pass them this link :D

[line6movies]

Thanks Ethericloopz! :)

[kobadelhi]

Hi i dont record any live music on reason. I would just like to get my synthesizers to work, but i don't know how to. Do you know :)?

[line6movies]

May I humbly suggest a book called "Reason 4 Ignite." :)

If you go through all the exercises in that book from beginning to end, you will totally know how to use all the synths in Reason.

If you were talking about actual hardware synths, I would say that if you really learn all the ins and outs of synthesis in Reason, you will be able to understand any hardware analog synth-- even put together your own modular synth setup.

[SuperiorRobot]

welp im going to buy this tomorrow. and a macbook pro. thank you!

also, did you play that guitar live? like, could I be playing guitar and messing with it live??

if so, go tell them to bump up your commission cuz thats amazing and you just sold this product!

[line6movies]

Yes you can play the guitar live using the same setup described in the video. However, I recorded the guitar ahead of time, so that I could easily use the mouse for the video. For playing live, you might want to hook up an expression pedal or other MIDI foot controllers so that you can keep both hands on your guitar, or use a looper pedal with your guitar.

[LittleJoysmusic]

This is a spectacular video.

[mornel]

Awesome, gotta try this out! It should be possible to assign the Malstrom parameters to my expression pedal too for really expressive playing!!

[line6movies]

Good idea! I created a ready-to-use patch (downloadable from the Line 6 blog) based on this tutorial, and assigned Mod Wheel to the filter frequencies (inverse, so turning up the Mod Wheel turns down the filter frequency). That would work great mapped to an expression pedal.