india has started to grow now..how can it decline...i completely diagree with this man...i admit india doesnt have god governance and political environment but what about the people...people can still grow if they want...moist is under control and kashmir is now stable...and not only kashmir the whole india is now stable..Indians are learning from the mistake they made in 90s and early 2000s..but now the communal harmony is preserved....
Something that must be pointed out is that many of the problems which look very big from outside have been always around since we got our independence. Still we are managing to creep ahead, while doing that slowly taking care of these problems too.. what one cannot avoid is education of young indians who are now getting more and more educated to decide the fate of this nation. Also, as inherently indigenous economy nations, we are somewhat protected from external events.
the best reply for this lecture and his book(India after gandhi) is Patrick French's 'India: a portrait' just read both these books and then make a conclusion.
I wont say, i am highly impressed, but what he highlighted is the present day's reality, and that wouldnt last, the issues in Kashmir, East Indian states etc, this is changing fast and as diverse India is, it is bound to take long, take for eg Dalits, the situation of dalits has improved a lot since Independence, i would say they are at least economically better of then Brahmins in the present Indian society
I agree with Mr. Guha. How can we grant the right of franchise to illiterates. 'That' I believe is the root cause of the poor quality of governance(rather, politicians) we have. Illiterates are easier to fool. An illiterate criminal can beat me in elections, not because he is better than me, but because those illiterates can see themselves in him. Plain logic. He puts it really well: "the recklessness of the Indian political experiment".
Lots of points to ponder about... However I guess talking about just the downside without dwelling much into the positive side of things may leave a wrong ( not good or bad) impression on minds of some people ( in this case , maybe some elite of Canada). The good thing about India is that it has lived and thrived, the sad part is that all the people havent been included in the growth cycle. What India needs to do is to develop all spheres of people .
Wrong when he say that Paksitan provokes Hindu fundamentalism. Remember Islam is global issue it is not a pakistan issue. When Al Quida strikes it has glbal reach. They have camps in Pakistan and Paksitan is waging proxy war with India since 1970, over 80,000 Indian have been killed since 1970 due to proxy war.
Now what would Hindus responce would be? Look at the U.S.A, how it responded to 9/11. India does not have bowl to respond. There will be frustration form Hindus.
@savita1926 I'm glad to see there is a smart Indian on youtube who actually understands something and doesn't go on blabbing, India is the next superpower!
@Psyched psyshic,,,and off there is a hit like you who don't see other's progress despite of living in a help nation who begs to india for employment generation,,,,,
@savita1926 : if sonia gandhi is not even indian (inspite of losing a husband, mother inlaw , brother inlaw to perfectly indian causes ) and if the people of india have no issue with that, that is infact the biggest proof about its democratic credentials.a muslim president, a sikh india and a leader of the opposition as a hindu is the biggest proof of a democratic india.you born in 1926 by anychance?
This is a Indian Liberal writer. He just wrote a book call "making of Modern India". Where he choose 19 people. I do not know how he choose 19 people he think that shaped India. He is ignorent and stupid.
He inclused Mohamud Ali Jinnah, who did not contribute to India at all, he is founding fegure of Pakistan. Also leaves out Sardar patel who unified India from Princely rule and united India. He think that writer and intectual shaped by those 19 people, 70% are ilierate then how can shape?
I am appalled at the level of un scholarship at display here.Ramchandra Guha is a pseudo-Historian and a shoddy "scholar".He is at best fit for writing newspaper columns.
People must read Arun Shourie if they want to get an idea of India.
Even now also if we go in rural areas which is majority of the population of india the situation is no better ,even after reservation their status in society is same they can't intermarry even in urban cities.
They can touch each other in urban cities but it is not true in rural india.
No that is totally wrong one of the reason why muslims were so much successful in conquering india was it was already an oppressed society were people fractioned and rivals of each other infact very first invasion by muhammad bin Qasim was welcomed with open arms by the local people.
Offcourse that muslims were unsuccessful in totally eradicating this disease forever and thats why they themselves failed in the last by british.But they reduced its intensity as it had been from thousands of years.
I tend to think of the days of there being super powers as being a thing of the past. Instead...there will be super blocks of power. What is likely to happen is that the wealth will be more evenly distributed which will either bring peace or war. The only way to bring peace is by sharing the wealth although there's those who will try and stop it. The Jews for example (and good luck to em I must say lol) own a staggering amount of the worlds wealth considering how small their population is.
All these "proud Indians" need to ask themselves if this is all false, why would he be awarded the Padma Bhushan award? Stop being so insecure and learn to take criticism. There are obvious problems with us (yes, Indian. Live in India and have never, ever been outside the country either) becoming more and more powerful. We have numerous fault-lines along our social and political structure. We cannot improve unless we don't accept that we aren't quite there yet.
india has started to grow now..how can it decline...i completely diagree with this man...i admit india doesnt have god governance and political environment but what about the people...people can still grow if they want...moist is under control and kashmir is now stable...and not only kashmir the whole india is now stable..Indians are learning from the mistake they made in 90s and early 2000s..but now the communal harmony is preserved....
yd5266 1 week ago
India lacks superpower because of corruption, bad politics
SuperDesi45 3 weeks ago
I'm so proud of India !!
delialah02 1 month ago
Something that must be pointed out is that many of the problems which look very big from outside have been always around since we got our independence. Still we are managing to creep ahead, while doing that slowly taking care of these problems too.. what one cannot avoid is education of young indians who are now getting more and more educated to decide the fate of this nation. Also, as inherently indigenous economy nations, we are somewhat protected from external events.
DaSnipy 1 month ago
I agree with 99% but I don't agree with statement saying bjp as right wing!
Harshamostwanted1 1 month ago
the best reply for this lecture and his book(India after gandhi) is Patrick French's 'India: a portrait' just read both these books and then make a conclusion.
nathswathi 1 month ago 4
Interesting and educational speech.
localfox1000 2 months ago
I wont say, i am highly impressed, but what he highlighted is the present day's reality, and that wouldnt last, the issues in Kashmir, East Indian states etc, this is changing fast and as diverse India is, it is bound to take long, take for eg Dalits, the situation of dalits has improved a lot since Independence, i would say they are at least economically better of then Brahmins in the present Indian society
vikaskhantwal 2 months ago
good that you at least added 'I believe'. It would be highly presumptious of you otherwise. I'm highly unimpressed by this dude.
SheStillRuns 2 months ago 2
bravo Professor Guha!
you addressed a male syndrome question of the western culture in a very polite way.
indeed, why would anyone want to be a superpower, it's about coexisting, not dominating.
btw, senator Clinton is someone with this male anxiety syndrome as well.
narmex7 3 months ago
I agree with Mr. Guha. How can we grant the right of franchise to illiterates. 'That' I believe is the root cause of the poor quality of governance(rather, politicians) we have. Illiterates are easier to fool. An illiterate criminal can beat me in elections, not because he is better than me, but because those illiterates can see themselves in him. Plain logic. He puts it really well: "the recklessness of the Indian political experiment".
divsaxena 3 months ago
if we want to survive in this world v must b super power
4563423789234 4 months ago
Lots of points to ponder about... However I guess talking about just the downside without dwelling much into the positive side of things may leave a wrong ( not good or bad) impression on minds of some people ( in this case , maybe some elite of Canada). The good thing about India is that it has lived and thrived, the sad part is that all the people havent been included in the growth cycle. What India needs to do is to develop all spheres of people .
sameer31101984 1 year ago
the 11 point is a lack of population management.
TheVishal1973 1 year ago
keralites are different in religious views thats y they come to universities they mingle together without any problem, unlike other states
SAWJANSEE 1 year ago
its tamil nadu or any other state, u can take the example of kerala. power doesnt belong to anybody in keralam
SAWJANSEE 1 year ago
but he is good, his view are rite
SAWJANSEE 1 year ago
he drinks more 10 times in between, and repeating the same thing he said again and again.
oooh god,
SAWJANSEE 1 year ago
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sharique38 1 year ago
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sharique38 1 year ago
Wrong when he say that Paksitan provokes Hindu fundamentalism. Remember Islam is global issue it is not a pakistan issue. When Al Quida strikes it has glbal reach. They have camps in Pakistan and Paksitan is waging proxy war with India since 1970, over 80,000 Indian have been killed since 1970 due to proxy war.
Now what would Hindus responce would be? Look at the U.S.A, how it responded to 9/11. India does not have bowl to respond. There will be frustration form Hindus.
savita1926 1 year ago
@savita1926 I'm glad to see there is a smart Indian on youtube who actually understands something and doesn't go on blabbing, India is the next superpower!
Psyched 11 months ago 26
@Psyched psyshic,,,and off there is a hit like you who don't see other's progress despite of living in a help nation who begs to india for employment generation,,,,,
indianpatriot07 4 months ago
Do not forget that India is ruled by Nehru-gandhi family for last 60 years. You can not call that a democracy.
India has family based virtual dictatorship, that is far from democracy.
That is family is Nehru-Gandhi lead by Sonia Gandhi who is not even Indian by birth, she is Italian by birt and europian.
savita1926 1 year ago 2
@savita1926 : if sonia gandhi is not even indian (inspite of losing a husband, mother inlaw , brother inlaw to perfectly indian causes ) and if the people of india have no issue with that, that is infact the biggest proof about its democratic credentials.a muslim president, a sikh india and a leader of the opposition as a hindu is the biggest proof of a democratic india.you born in 1926 by anychance?
hashpuppy101 1 year ago 7
This is a Indian Liberal writer. He just wrote a book call "making of Modern India". Where he choose 19 people. I do not know how he choose 19 people he think that shaped India. He is ignorent and stupid.
He inclused Mohamud Ali Jinnah, who did not contribute to India at all, he is founding fegure of Pakistan. Also leaves out Sardar patel who unified India from Princely rule and united India. He think that writer and intectual shaped by those 19 people, 70% are ilierate then how can shape?
savita1926 1 year ago
@savita1926 Learn how to spell Savita.... please...
smacky777 1 year ago
I am appalled at the level of un scholarship at display here.Ramchandra Guha is a pseudo-Historian and a shoddy "scholar".He is at best fit for writing newspaper columns.
People must read Arun Shourie if they want to get an idea of India.
gauravrss 1 year ago
Top ten reasons start at 40:20
abuyahyagreen 1 year ago 72
@abuyahyagreen
He was preparing a prologue for the main theme of the discussion.
RanjanLekhy 6 months ago
@RanjanLekhy yeah so true, it wrong to say the speech starts at 40:20 what he spoke before too was much valuable :)
MrRuggedboy27 5 months ago
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padminilingaraju 1 year ago
those are 10 reasons why India isnt a super power doesnt mean it can't be
canuck1980 1 year ago 3
Even now also if we go in rural areas which is majority of the population of india the situation is no better ,even after reservation their status in society is same they can't intermarry even in urban cities.
They can touch each other in urban cities but it is not true in rural india.
sharique38 1 year ago
No that is totally wrong one of the reason why muslims were so much successful in conquering india was it was already an oppressed society were people fractioned and rivals of each other infact very first invasion by muhammad bin Qasim was welcomed with open arms by the local people.
Offcourse that muslims were unsuccessful in totally eradicating this disease forever and thats why they themselves failed in the last by british.But they reduced its intensity as it had been from thousands of years.
sharique38 1 year ago
That's wrong Dalits are not oppressed for 6000 years. Oppression of Dalits started around 12th century after Islamic invasion in India.
arvi321isback 1 year ago
I tend to think of the days of there being super powers as being a thing of the past. Instead...there will be super blocks of power. What is likely to happen is that the wealth will be more evenly distributed which will either bring peace or war. The only way to bring peace is by sharing the wealth although there's those who will try and stop it. The Jews for example (and good luck to em I must say lol) own a staggering amount of the worlds wealth considering how small their population is.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer It depends on how Humans react
arvi321isback 1 year ago
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arvi321isback 1 year ago
Top ten reasons start at 39:50
Phead128 1 year ago
good one...
toonrama 1 year ago
A very well-observed interpretation of modern Indian history!
amairaja 1 year ago
All these "proud Indians" need to ask themselves if this is all false, why would he be awarded the Padma Bhushan award? Stop being so insecure and learn to take criticism. There are obvious problems with us (yes, Indian. Live in India and have never, ever been outside the country either) becoming more and more powerful. We have numerous fault-lines along our social and political structure. We cannot improve unless we don't accept that we aren't quite there yet.
ld50ofreality 1 year ago
ALL ARE FALSE,
DEMO IS JUST 10 YEARS INDIA GOT THE TOP 50 TO TOP 4 SIT,
SO THINK ABOUT FULL VERSION !
WHERE IS A 3RD GENERATION COUNTRY!
souro19 1 year ago
A very hard-hitting and conscientious analysis of India.
Bravo Mr.Guha!!!
atypicalindian 1 year ago 2