Grand Ayatollah:System based on force illegitimate

[cooolsoon]

خامنه ای خر شده قاطی فارسها شده

[JROQ5772]

Montazeri was a wise and respectable man. His voice will be missed by those seeking a free Iran. There need to be more men of dignity who speak out against the illegitimacy of the "Islamic Republic"

[IRAN68]

RIP Montazeri

[nakisa2009]

Iranians are a sick, distorted and politicaly intoxicated people. One of the must nationalist, racist people of middel east.They tread the minority like animals.The situation is a universal punishment by God. A diviated form of islam is ruling there.They are either idol whorshipper of a human instead of God or atheist hating everyhting around them.I never met more sick people than these.

[MowjeSabzV]

Grand Ayatollah Montazeri is a very respected figure. But, he is not as great as Grand Ayatollah Kazemeyni Boroujerdi.

[sohrab2012]

ای کاش با ما میماندی تا با هم جشن آزادی را بگیریم. بدرود ای پدر سبز ملت ایران

[Mehrisht]

مرگ بر خامنه اى

مرگ بر گربه نره ميت يکى از بنيانگذاران

نظام پليد جمهورى اسلامى " منتظرى ".

[Mehrisht]

مرگ بر اصلاح طلبان عقب افتاده حکومتى.

خجالت بکشيد "وطنفروشان اسلام پرست".

بس کنيد و گورتان را از ايرانزمين گم کنيد, جنايتگاران همدست سى سال نظام اسلامى.

مرگ بر قانون اساسى جمهورى اسلامى.

سرنگون باد نظام جمهورى اسلامى.

[jefryslash]

FUCK Religion and FUCK ISLAM !

New Generation of IRAN are Secular ! We are Sick of ISLAM and want it Seperated from everything !!

Khameneii and every single Mulla in IRAN will be Hanged soon , We will Have our IRAN back and after that IRAN will be a FREE place for Anyone to do whatever they want !!

But there will be no more ISLAMIC REPUBLIC !

Just REPUBLIC OF IRAN

[7jerryv7]

The Brits have no sense of humor.

A man walks into a bar with a Giraffe. He sits down and has a drink. Then, he gets up to leave. The Giraffe falls down and dies. The bartender says, "You can't leave that lying there!"  The guy says - "That's not a lion. It's a Giraffe."

[SaracenWarrior]

Iranian Shia Muslims 90% of the Population of Iran do not all support Khamenei or Ahmadinejad....The Islamic Green Movement of Mousavi is an Islamic Democratic movement. Not a Monarchist, Marxist, or Communist movement.

[ah4321]

You zionists really hate the left.

[galuiot]

yes we do

[ah4321]

Neocon piece of shit.

[ah4321]

More israeli propaganda from the "real" news. I just realised, john jay and netanyahu have the exact same empty eyes filled with only hatred.

[chrisy0907]

the shites and the fuckwahs

these people have interesting names

[kwillyou22]

i think there are two i's in shiites [i could be and probly am wrong...]

[AbtinX]

I've always thought that as cruel by the british to add that T :) In farsi and arabic it's shiiai

[NightSniper2008]

Hahahaha

[7jerryv7]

Hey...bad teeth does not make the British bad people. Just ugly. And difficult to understand.

[whoareyapauldunn]

thats because you only understand southern american slang you divvy fool.

[7jerryv7]

Hit a nerve, oi mate?

[whoareyapauldunn]

are you just a typically ignorant, uneducated and immature yankee divvy? Are you bubba? Because you are even intelligent enough for me to get wound up chump. YEEEE HAAAAAA......

[7jerryv7]

Oi mate! Remember the Alamo!

[whoareyapauldunn]

why dont you remember 911 that you Illuminati that controls USA and Britain to name a few....

Great isnt it when you government kills its on people! lmfao

[7jerryv7]

You are a legend in your own mind. Laughing at your own jokes - based on factual inaccuracies - is a sign you live in your own world. Go take your meds

[whoareyapauldunn]

hahhahaha what joke moron? Stop smoking crack retard.

[7jerryv7]

So you laugh when there is no joke....just keep digging buddy.

[whoareyapauldunn]

only once have i laughed at you incompetence....

[7jerryv7]

you incompetence... ;)

[whoareyapauldunn]

great grammar lady.... again i am laughing at your illiteracy!

[7jerryv7]

I was pointing out your grammer you moron. God damn you are fucking dense!

[whoareyapauldunn]

ooooh a typo not a grammar error.. glad you are happy chimp...

Villien ye are, Villein ye shall remain... go work that one fucktard.

[7jerryv7]

You think I actually care what you think or write? You are a clown for my amusement. Nothing more.

[whoareyapauldunn]

oooooh now you are talking about your feeling mr holy moses nut... dont worry someone in your family will convert to another religion then you will be in a fix. Anyway Jesus is a myth that was repeated many times before the bible nonsense came... and some dick that reminds me of you, said the devil did it... hahahaha

i bet you will let jesus bang your wife and cum in her mouth because of your deranged obsession... you are a nobody bum

[7jerryv7]

Christian? Me, I am not. Keep trolling.

[whoareyapauldunn]

trolling? No I have said what I need to say, and you have nothing of substance...

[ah4321]

That's a pretty sad life you lead, israeli, if that is what entertains you.

(I'm assuming you cant afford the snuf films which your country is famous for - along with the human and narcotic trafficking.)

[Squirelbutt]

LOL...

[peymaania]

I had a Chimp that looked just like Ali Montazzari. First you need a diper to wrap around the Chimp's head and then all

you need is a pair of thick framed glasses. Voila, C'est Fini!

[7jerryv7]

Wow, insightful commentary. Thanks Kissinger.

[peymaania]

Wilkommen!!! I happen to like that Fascist named Kissinger. Henry truly enjoys crushing the small man on the street

just like a bug!

[7jerryv7]

Kissinger was not a fascist - he actually fought against fascism as a US soldier during WWII. He believes in Realpolitik.

He also usurped the US government when Nixon was drunk as a skunk during Watergate. Be you did'nt know that Cheney was not the first non-president to act as president.

Then again, if you do not like democracy, by all means - praise Kissinger.

[whoareyapauldunn]

kissinger is with the power and money obsessed freemasons...

[mogilny89p]

They are worried about recovering their sould which is not possible so their only chance is to drag everybody else down with them.

[7jerryv7]

I am a free mason and not power or money obsessed. You did'nt need that dollar did you?

[whoareyapauldunn]

you a just a fantasist sunshine... freemason dont go around announcing their membership. Get a life and stop bubbling nonsense... you are by far the dumbest, most pathetic piece of maggot eating piece of shite that have crawled out of a male hairy fat arse...

[7jerryv7]

Free masons are a great plot line, like the Tutonic Knights or the Davinci Code, but not that important.

[whoareyapauldunn]

go and research it nd then talk.. btw I am sure you mean the templar knights. Tony Blair, All bushes, and many of the big names in the media, politics, business..etc. Not that important, they make decisions on out freedom, wars, etc.. things that affect us directly.

Go research Obama's paymaster.... the bilderburg group before waffling your nonsense here.

[7jerryv7]

I will go and read the Harry Potter books to do the research.

[whoareyapauldunn]

can you read properly? lmfao

[7jerryv7]

No, I am illiterate

[whoareyapauldunn]

add immature and retarded to that list

[7jerryv7]

Sure...anything else?

[7jerryv7]

I never would have expected to hear such a scathing criticism of the Iranian regime. I think the Grand Ayatollah Montazeri reads as very democratic. This reads in line with Western democracy.

Many people argue that Middle Eastern democracy has and will look different than Western Democracy. Is this true? The excerpts came across in line with Western ideas. Note I am not saying he adopts Western ideas, just that they are very similiar.

Thank you for posting.

[Eopyk]

Iran was once a seculkar state if they would gte democracy I think it would be similear to western style.

All love

[7jerryv7]

Similar to Turkey?

[Eopyk]

Yes it was a secular state like Turkey more or less.

[ass711]

in turkey secularism was forced upon the people through years of dictatorship (not democracy) under the rule of ataturk, just like the first pahlavi shah forced secularism upon his people. if democracy truly did exist in iran and turkey during the 20s,30s,40s,50s, secularism would have not been enforced and forced into the people, in fact the very idea would not have existed (except upon communist parties)

[Eopyk]

Part 3: Yes Atatürk was a dictator but he took the ruins of the Ottoman Empire and made Turkey to a modern state and many from Turkey see him as the hero that modernised Turkey and gave women full rights and voting rights and laid base for a future democracy and fixed up the economy and jobs for the popel and education while others see him as an overeated dictator and Islamist with caliphate romantism se him as a traitor. I have mixed feelings about him.

[ass711]

i think secularism was forced upon the people of iran by the first pahlavi shah through dictatorship, in iran secularism went hand-in-hand with dictatorship (even mossadegh had clerics supporting him).

[ass711]

If they would get democracy I think it would NOT be similar to western style, because in fact secularism would not have been enforced or even existed then. All love

[Eopyk]

I hope you know that all those demostrate in the street scream DEATH TO THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC I hope ypu know that even some clerics are talking about sepreating religion because religion is not politics but for you islamist it is it is a personal belife and it should be up to the individual to belive or not. Iranian people wants a secular democracy where religion and state are sepreated but you islamist will never care about that because the will of the people is not counts in your eyes.

[ass711]

first of all, people are not screaming DEATH TO THE THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC like you claim, they are screaming DEATH TO THE DICTATOR, now that can be khamenei (because he was biased) or ahmadinejad depending on your views, but most iranians (inside iran and NOT exiles from california), did not scream what you claimed they screamed MARG BARG DICTATOR (death to the dictator) now that doesn't seem to be against the regime or system, but the people who are ruling it and taking it over.

[Eopyk]

Here you will see people scream death to the Islamic republic as well /watch?v=wdXF16-e9gE

All love

[ass711]

show me which part of iran it is, because it seems that video has been taken in baluchistan which is mostly anti-iranian and not only that but it is the place where america has the most influence (financing jundallah and other terrorist groups) so it is entirely possible that they were paid to say that, like how the americans paid the ukranians and georgians to hold mass protests that eventually led to the colour revolutions in eastern europe.

all love

[Eopyk]

It is in Teheran..

[ass711]

no it it rather more likely in zahedan..

[Eopyk]

No it is in Teheran. I double checked by looking at videos filmed at the same spot they say Teheran.. so you think Teheran is the most regime friendly city?

[ass711]

yes religion and politics can be separated but NOT if it is islam, because islam is not just a religion (which is a personal belief between man or god like christianity), it is a way of life, that's why there's the sharia (islamic law) which is basically the laws taken from the quran and hadiths.

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[ass711]

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the quran is the word of allah and the hadith is the words of muhammad, so if you separate sharia from state by adopting secularism then you disobey the orders and laws of allah and the prophet which makes you no longer muslim rather anti-islamic.

[Eopyk]

That is your belife that it isa word of god for me it is just a bunch of stolen texts if diffrent origins created by desert semi nomadic people who where if you compare with other cultures in the region kinde premitive. But it is your belife and in a secular society you can still have your belife and kuve the life style as you wish only that politics and public will not be effected.

So acording to you all muslims who want secularism are false? No true scotsman fallacy here.

[XAMAJANI]

while i respect iran's people who would like an islamic state, since it is their culture, ALL religions are ways of life, just like how you now have sharia law, there have been many states which where christian theocracies, islam can be separated from the state just as any other religion. but i really hope the iranians sort this out quickly, the imperialist americans who support mousavi are taking advantage of this situation to further their own interest.

[ass711]

XAMAJANI,

how many religions, except islam and judaism, have you encountered...that deal with finances? how many religions have you encountered that deal with minor problems and obstacles in everyday in life? such as going to the washroom, driving, sleeping, etc.? most religions teach someone how to pray, holidays to celebrate, and at most what to eat and wear.

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[ass711]

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now keeping that in mind, remember that christianity was created as a modification of judaism, many of the laws from judaism existed in christianity and was applied in christian societies (especially catholic) until the reformation that split christianity into catholicism and protestantism. it also ultimately led to the liberalization and separation of church and state (for non-islamic religions).

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[ass711]

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the reason why laws of christainity failed to be applied in christian societies was because those laws were crazy and sometimes often contradictory. christian theocracies ultimately failed because of the reason that their main book the bible was ofter contradictory and not logical (unlike the quran), you will find many of the laws in videos on youtube that talk about or refute christianity.

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[ass711]

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what secularism does is keep people from religion and makes them attached to the worldy life instead of keeping them involved in the afterlife. it distorts the organized religions and increases the number of atheists. you don't need a clearer example than america, where the population of atheists was raised to 15%, and where many christians don't follow the original laws in christianity.

[ass711]

how many clerics have called separation of religion and state? name a famous cleric INSIDE qom or even in iran who has ever said that, not student clerics or radical clerics like boroujerdi - he is as radical as mesbah yazdi but in opposite side of spectrum, that is why he is obscure and has little following.

[Eopyk]

Part 2: Mossadeq hade alot of people supporting him.. all from communist to some clerics to nationalists to etc.

[TheLibertyChannel]

Blatant CIA/Brzezinski type propaganda.

[Eopyk]

Oh gosh.. so you don ot think Iran is a totalitarian theocracy.. I see you like Alex Jones... he is a liar and coward that cannot defend his views when he get's pushed to the walls... so I am not going to take you seriously.

[TheLibertyChannel]

My opinion has nothing to do with Jones (I actually disagree with him on what the action plan for Iran is).

You know why? I don't need to follow people. I abhor it, actually. I don't take 'people seriously' by proxy, either.

I think by myself.

I only have to watch the Brzezinski talks, and read his Grand Chessboard, to know what the game plan for Iran is: 5th column subversion, total destabilization, and a final merger into the world banking system. If you like violent empires, good. I don't.

[Eopyk]

I don't like violent empires but we are not talking american empire now are we? We are talking about Irans people gettting crushed by a crazy theocratic regime... you should think about them..

[TheLibertyChannel]

No, we're actually talking about the IMF/World Bank empire.

The US has just been the milk cow for that empire for the last 6 decades. Providing the tax money and the soldiers for the takeover of the world's resources and economics.The Middle East is the last step of that takeover.

And sure, I don't like Islamic theocracies. But they should be left alone. They can decide their future for themselves, without any more fueling of Islamic hatred via CIA and NGO/Soros money.

[Eopyk]

Iran elected a democratic leader in the 50's but he ended up in problem with the brits and the americans because he nationalised the oil so they kicked him out and the Shah get's full power over all this time Iran was a secular stae but the Islamist was the strongest oposition so thet overtough the Shah and we gott a theocracy I think Iran deserves the democracy CIA took away from them when thet elected Dr Mossadeq.

[TheLibertyChannel]

Yeah. The CIA took Mossadeq (and democracy) out, they installed Palevi and the Savak in power, and now they're gonna get democracy back to Iran.

They've become humanitarian, perhaps.

Maybe they feel sorry, now.

Well, you can either believe that, or go watch what Brzezinski recently said (and wrote) about Iran. Iran isn't gonna get democracy nor liberalism. It's gonna get a lot of pied-pipers, destabilization, economic turmoil. And then they'll be absorbed by the banksters. A soft takeover.

[Eopyk]

I think Iran might sooner or later do revolution again before USA touches them.. this thoecratic regime are starting to lose grip over the people I think people will sooner or later not take it any more.

All love

[TheLibertyChannel]

The CIA has their hands all over the pie already... you just witnessed a CIA/NGO color revolution, financed primarily by George Soros, and admitted to on record...

[peymaania]

Why must that subversive hungarian Jew stick his flaccid circumcised phallus into every Pie? Iran is NO American Pie!!! LOL.... I bet George Soros is still enraged about his Bris, so he keeps mucking up the rest of the world with his silly socialist ideas. Someone please donate their foreskin so that Georgey calms down.

[newmanfrigan]

Total crap. Another self-inflated, self-referential, conspiracy jackwad.

[newmanfrigan]

I'm with you buddy. These Alex Jones freaks are nothing but children. They believe every stupid thing he says. This is one of the stupidest, but the worst of all times is when he says that the Columbine High School massacre was an "inside job". Alex jones sucks, but his followers suck 10 times worse.

[Eopyk]

Yes Alex Jones is crazy.. and it is sad that some people follow him....

All love

[7jerryv7]

Why do you say this?