Macedonia is in Greece. FYROM is located in a region called PAEONIA in antiquity. Your ancestors self-identified as BULGARIANS. You prefer to believe in nationalist myths than function in reality.
'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' - FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov, Ottawa Citizen Newspaper, February 24 1999
Wikipedia is your source? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA. How about Google Earth, too? They have their heads up their ass, too, when identifying Macedonia as FYROM...how uninformed Wikipedia and Google are to not know that MACEDONIA IS MACEDONIA AND HAS BEEN FOR 3,000 YEARS!
HAHA FYROM MEANS:NATION WITHOUT HISTORY WHICH STEALS OUR GREAT HISTORY...IT ALSO MEANS A NATION WITHOUT ANCIENT LANGUAGE(IS FROM RUSSIA, RUSSIAN LANGUAGE ARE FROM GREEK HOLY PEOPLE,READ SOME HISTORY;)]
ΥΕΑΗ ΟΚ ΙT'S A MYTH.ERODOTUS WRITES:MACEDONIANS WERE DORIEIS.OMIROS (the most ancient author)LIST THE Pelasgoean AND GREEKS WHO LIVED IN MACEDONIA.SO DUDE,IT'S SO LAME TO SAY THAT MACEDONIA ISN'T GREEK.
READ THIS.ALEXANDER THE GREAT WAS GREEK.PROOF?he participated in n the Olympic Games in 324 BC.We know that participation in the Olympic Games allowed only in GREEK, free citizens and not others.So if he was born in Skopje, as claimed, neither the name nor the language and religion would be Greek, but neither would participate in the Olympics.
Even Gotse Deltchev,the famous Macedonian revolutionary leader,whose nome de guerre was Ahil (Achilles) "refers to the Slavs of Macedonia as 'Bulgarians' in an offhanded manner without seeming to indicate that such a designation was a point of contention" (Perry 1988:23).In his correspondence Gotse Deltchev often states simple and clearly,"We are Bulgarians" (Mac Dermott 1978:192,273).
What do you think is more likely? The whole world is lying to you. Or... some political leaders of a young country are using this topic to gain support for there own political aspirations.
I dont care about your DNA either but tell me where is the reason (logic) in wikipaidia supporting that Alexander the Great is a Hellin while calling you Macedonians.
I am not a racist I was playing online biliard with a Scopjan once and when I was about to win I hit the 8 ball , lost and told him I had nothing against him
I know you believe you are Macedonian but using DNA as an arguiment is out of the quistion for both of us.
I dont care about your DNA either but tell me where is the reason (logic) in wikipaidia supporting that Alexander the Great is a Hellin while calling you Macedonians.
I am not a racist I was playing online biliard with a Scopjan once and when I was about to win I hit the 8 ball , lost and told him I had nothing against him
I know you believe you are Macedonian but using DNA as an arguiment is out of the quistion for both of us.
Do you say we are not Hellines only because of our dna you shameless Scopjan?
We respect our ancenstors we are proud of our history we speake the Hellenic language and we have the same religion as they did, we also admit their mistakes and take renposibility as their hairs AND YOU SAY TO ME I AM NOT A HELLIN ONLY BECAUSE OF MY DNA YOU SURE HAVE A NERVE.
@Arhs77 Well I am not Slavic, I am Italian but Macedonian and Greek are two of the languages that I can speak fluently. Also Macedonian has a cyrillic alphabet while Greek has its own alphabet. The point I am trying to make is that Macedonian and Greek are different languages, and they are unique and great languages.
@Chezrocksall Amigo italiano the language that you speak and you call it macedonian tell me isn't it a Slavic language?The language that you call macedonian is slavic and couldn't be used by ancient macedonians who were greeks. una fatsa una ratsa
@terraprod Yes you are right, the modern Macedonian language is slavic, and yes I do understand that the language could not be used by ancient Macedonians who were Greeks. I was just trying to make a point, that's all. By the way, pretty good Italian, how did you learn these Italian words?
Greece is fucked up for good not only they owe more than 300 milliard euros the Germans will cut out their islands too if they don't return 25 milliards (with fee) to them hahaahahhaah
@anger96 yes yes you are dreaming who they are gonna take our islands idiot? And first of all you should know that German still has to pay greece over 80billion euros for the damages that he did in the ww2 greece never get some money back for the destructions that happened
@ellinorosonhool Do you even know how to speak Macedonian? Macedonian and Greek are NOT the same language, and it is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of FACT. I speak both Greek and Macedonian fluently and they are NOT, I repeat NOT the same. Thank you.
@Chezrocksall Hello can you explain to me why Alexander chose to speak and write in Greek and lets imagine he was slav like you why isn't your alphabet called Alexandrian or maybe Amyndian ?
wow verdeska is begging for some history in order to become a nation....poor poor...how can people fall that low :(. Well you people shouldn't steal history. You should start Making some.
we have prepare the war !!you have prepared too!!!!MACEDONIA IS GREEK !!!!!THERE IS WRITTEN THE HISTORY!!!!THE BIG ALEXANDER WAS GREEK AND YOU KNOW IT ALL OF YOU!!!!MACEDONIA IS GREEEEEEEEEEEEK!!!!PREPARE FOR WAR!!!THE GREEKS ARE COMING TO SCOPIA!!!!
and you are Macedonians ??? You just have the name! you were just some nations from north and came to fight Macedonians and some of you get mixed with them!!! No relatinship with Alexander The Great... You mention some truths but you do not mention your real origine. Do not try to find and steal history... When Greeks werer setting the base for the biggest politism change in the world you were grazing the sheep...
haha, stupid people from skopjia. you are slavian and you will pay for being rude to the Greeks. Macedonia has always been Greek and you will not steal our name. you are a country without ID.
so kozabashia you say that Philippos called his son Aleksandrofski ? and aleksandros called his father Philipofski ? both called their land makedonija ? SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME or maybe SHAMEFSKI
who are you trying to convince me or you ?
History has been written and the facts are plain. To deny Truth is an indication of weakness and inferiority. Case Closed.
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Vergina, Hmathia Greece
I'm not a net-coward, here is my full name, you can find my e-mail at my profile. Peace.
-Where is this non-Greek Macedonian culture hiding?
-All ancient Macedonian artifacts are Greek
Are we suppose to believe the that the ancient Macedonians were not Greek and then one day out of the blue they said the hell with it let's be Greek? Lets speak Greek, worship Greek gods, write in Greek, structure our conquered territory based on Greek ideas and culture, setting up gymnasiums, theater, agoras..etc.. come on people!!!
Id like to ask or suggest some food for though to my VARDAR readers or disbelievers that the Macedonians were Greek these FACTS (i repeat FACTS) :
1) Why is there no evidence of a non-Greek Macedonian language?
- Because the ancient Macedonians spoke Greek and had Greek NAMES. All makedonia names and cities (and when i say all i mean ALL) means something to my language,i used them to my daily speech, i can interpret them, even a child can!! the very same language i use that second !!
My friend Kozabashia, i can post quotes and proofs that makedones was a greek tribe, till the end of time, i can fill hundred of pages.Just google ''ARGEAD DYNASTY'' and get the informations you want from INDEPENDENT encyclopedias from serious universities around the globe, you should be impressed by the results :), leave aside the ignorant historians of yours, don't be a victim, all the tangibly evidence is against your video, why are you forging history ? all the sources u provide is biased !
The book of john shea have several major mistakes, even a child can recognise !!!
So, the synopsis of the book is that Ancient Makedonians were slavic. According to the author, the Ancient Makedonians did not speak a Hellenic dialect and Alexander the Great's tutor, Aristotle, taught him a slavic dialect.That makes Aristotle a slav too since he was born in Ancient Makedonia. Mr O'Shea go get an education in ancient and Balkan history before you go and write a totally BIASED book.
at the end of your video you refer to John Shea's book.
Well,(at least his not a fanatic) though have some mistakes, he collect testimonies only from the slav-spoken people, not greak-spoken natives of makedonia. (why?) I i don't want to disappoint you my friend but i consider myself Hellena, my grandparents are here from the beginning of history,(surprise !!! i know another 2 million with the same characteristics) i speak the greek language like aleksandros and his soldiers (..continued..)
this is your INDEPENDENT sources ? Joseph Gandeto ?
man you can't be serious !!! He is a fyromian propagandist that lives in America, i read his books, full of historical misleads and mistakes !!! this man doesn't even study archaeology !!! He is blind from hatred towards to Hellenic people !!! and you provide him as an independent and reliable source ? are you insane ?
oh ! it gets even better ! Michael Dimitri !! Another fake-makedonian-American propagandist !
You write some oshki boshki slavic bullshit, and try to call yourself "Macedonian"..LOL. Yeah, I'm sure Phillip(meaning lover of horses in Greek), Alexander(meaning unbeatable man in Greek), Aristotle(meaning first among others) spoke some slavic bullshit, that didn't even enter the Balkans until the 6th century, and who came from an iliterates people, before the Greeks introduced the to Christianity..LOL. More like "I ELLADA SAS KANI REZILI..LOL.
Help help help every one needs help, Greece from the native Christians of the Ottoman Empire, and Macedonia from the Austrians.
After the Persian wars Macedonia gradually became Hellenized. Between 500 BC and 300 BC, the capital was changed, the language was changed, the culture changed, the government changed all from the influence of Athens and their allies
YOU keep making a losing argument. Even by your OWN definition, Macedonia was Greek by 500 BC(which is a wrong analogy)..so your slavic people; who entered the Balkans in the 6th century AD, have NO connection to Macedonia. Furthermore, your suggesting that a people called "Macedonian"; which is a Greek name, come from a non-Greek root!!LOL.
From Wikipedia:"Macedonia was an ancient kingdom, centered in the north eastern part of the Greek penninsula".
The native "Christians" had their OWN independance to worry about....while Greece already achieved it's!!!!LOL. Stupid analogy..as usual. The first capitol of Macedonia was Aegaie..a Greek name. All subsequent cities were also Greek.. The name of the state of Macedonia is Greek, the names of it's people were Greek..and all the tribes that were non-Greek have no claim to the Macedonian identity..since they were not defined by it in name, race, or culutre. PERIOD.
You avoid my challenges by running in pointless ciricles..LOL. I've shown you quotes from Herodotus, Alexander himself, and have one from your prime minister in 1993.."In the Balkans, you need a history of 1,000s of years..so we INVENTED one!!". Also, you've never addressed the fact that your a slavic people, who didn't even enter the Balkans until the 6th century AD!!!!. Wikipedia shows it's sources at the bottom. STOP WASTING TIME. THE END!!!!!!!!!!.
Why wasn't he accepted earlier? Even the ancient Greeks believed the Macedonians weren't Greek and it was hard for Alexander to get in just to play a game
A recent documentary that was put together by a group of PhDs, studied the genetic origins of 300,000 random people in New York city. One was a Greek gentlemen. His test should he was an Indo-European, and of the first people to populate Europe..consistant with Greek history. This was 2009!!!!LOL. Also, the genetic testing of Greeks from different regions, found a racial consistancy with themselves and the ancients. The reason givin, was the isolation of the Greek gene. END
TWO THINGS..which will put this argument to rest..PART 1 "Macedonia" is a Greek name, meaning "Highlander, tall". All the characteristics of Macedon are Greek..Doric Greek language, alphabet, religion, education, etc. As Alexander the 1st said.."I am by Greek by ancient decent". Also, the prime minister of the former Yugoslavian vardeskans said.."In the Balkans, you need to have a history of 4-5,000 years to be taken seriously..so we INVENTED one"LOL.
And then he was Greek cause he said he was Greek. Bravo. Then after him Macedonia became Hellenized. Also, there were many Greek languages in Greece before koine. And I see Koine as being made from Doric and and early Attic. I see early Attic being made from Phoenician and Ionian. Ionians were the native greeks before Dorics and Attics. Dorics were invaders from the north. A Doric established Macedonia. The ancient Greeks as every one thinks are Attics and Koines
@TheAwp45..PART 3 Are you retarded?!!!LOL. Not ONLY did Herodotus call the Macedonians "Greek", Alexander had to prove his Argead(from Argos) lineage to participate in the Olympics. His words at the Olympics.."I am, by ancient descent, GREEK". But I'm sure you'll disagree with Herodotus and Alexander..and the fact that "Macedonia" is a GREEK name..and that names like "Perdiccas", "Phillip", "Alexnader", "Aristotle", etc. are GREEK.
The Greek language and people had(and still does) different dialects, not different "languages"!!!!LOL. Doric Greek is one of those dialects. Phoenician is a semetic language, unlike Greek, which is Indo-European!!!LOL. The Ionians were Greeks situated on the wetsern coast of Aegean Asia(Asia Minor); and in fact, to this day, all arabs, and other middle eastern people call us "Yunan" from "Ionia". Greeks had seperate cit-states, and one was not more"Greek" than another..LOL.
And I believe when people say Cleopatra was Macedonian not Greek. Not even the Romans liked her because she wasn't of their ethnicity. But was an Eastern/Egyptian. If I am mistaken please clear this up for me. Too many false stories is being made it. It's hard to know what is true and what is false these days.
Wow, so not only did the "Greek" people hidden The Egyptians and claim they were all killed off by the Romans (which is not true) because Ancient Egyptian direct descendants still live in Egypt today (non-Arabs) but Nobians/Sudanese. The "Greeks" had also hidden the Macedonians. WTF!
I shouldn't even say direct descendants for their still Egyptians. Even though its an English word. Ok but anyways. Who are those people that live in so-called "Greece" today? I know many years ago there was KMT (Egypt) and another land neighbour to them and who they claim was the Greeks. And how they went to the Egypt temples and stole the stories on Heru (Horus) and Ast (Isis) and it became Jesus and Mary. Who did that, what culture stole the Egyptian philosophy and heritage? @MizzLoveable03
WHO are the Greeks who live in Greece?!!LOL. THEY are the people who speak the oldest branch of Indo-European, THEIR nation gave birth to todays most educated and successful minority in the WORLD, THEY were the first to liberate from the turks, THEY managed to be the welathy minority under ottman occupation, who fed lazy races like YOURS and THEIRS..LOL. The Bible was first translated into Greek from Hebrew..YOU MORON..LOL. THE END..LOL.
You needed hep to get liberated. You killed and got rid of every Macedonian after the region of Macedonia was given to the Greeks. And what kind of person goes crazy and this subject
WE needed help?!!!!LOL. WE funded our war, and spilled OUR blood against an enemy who had the WHOLE muslim world on their side, and who had French generals train their army!!!!. ALL the wealthy and educated people under turkish occupation were Greeks, Armenians, and Jews. PERIOD. The "Philhelenes" supported us by CHOICE, and weren't fighting on behalf of any nation. Once Europeans got invovled to train the turks, Europeans offered help to Greece and evened the playing field.
While your a people who gave birth to the word "slave" from how many of your people were sold into slavery..and while you were STILL under turkish domination..Greece was the first nation to liberate itself from the turks!!!!. It took Russia; your slavic brothers, to help you achieve liberation..and ONLY as part of a whole "slavic" combination..since your a Bulgarian-vardeskan people. Your race is foreign to Macedonia. You entered the Balkans in the 6th century!!!!LOL.
You live in the smallest part of Macedonia, and share no lineage to the obvious Hellenic history of the Macedonians. "Macedonia" being a Greek word meaning "highlander, tall"..plus religion, alphabet, Dorian dialect, and education. The age of Alexander is known as the "Hellenisitc". The founding kingdom of Macedon was from Argos in southern Geece. The facts speak for theselves. PERIOD. THE END.
@TheAwp45 First, you whine about "help" unjustifiably..and then admit you were "helped", and that it's ok, because things weren't "easy"..LOL. Macedonia is a Greek name, of a Dorian Greek people, who spoke and wrote in Greek, had the same religion of the other Greeks, and had the same education. The founding kingdom was GREEK, and were an aristocracy like the Spartans..who also are from Pelloponisos. YOUR people are a slavic people, not related in ANY way to Macedon. PERIOD.
1st of all, stop putting your comments in short parts, i don't like scrolling down to watch all the spam u added. They were distracted by all the other revolts and such. Of course Wikipedia says that, every one thinks it is Greek cause where they went Hellenism followed. You ever heard of the DORIAN invasion? The Doric language or "dialect" was invented in Epirus or beyond the Balkans. Following the Dorian invasion and assimilation, Attic was born from Ionian, Doric and Phoenician
What "Short parts", what "spam"?!!!LOL. So the turks were "distratced" by other revolts, but only the Greek one was successful at that time?!!!!!LOL. Do you see how ridiculous and desperate you are?!!!!. The "Dorians" were a Hellenic tribe, and Epirus a Greek state; where Alexander's mother was from. "Assimilation" amongst the Greeks occurred after the uniting of the Greek world by Alexander. The Ionians were from the Asian coast..Phoneicians are semetic!. Stop wasting time!.
The founder was from Argos but his father invaded the Peloponnese and divided it among themselves in which the father got Argos. The Karanus lost the inheritance to Argos to his brother so then he set out to find a new kingdom called Macedon. He did try to participate but the Greeks thought he wasn't an Argive so they tried keeping him out. And would you stop saying LOL i beginning to think u r crazy
So WHERE was the founder's father from?!!!!LOL. Karanus?!!. What kind of a ethnic name do YOU think that is?!!!. what culture did the Argeads practice!!!!. The point your trying to make, actually backs up the point that Macedon was(and is) a GREEK state. Alexander didn't "try" to participate..he DID; and tied for first place in the foot race. His words:"I am Greek, by ancient descent". But It's funny how you don't address THAT, or Herodotus' quotes about Macedonians. Macedon=Greek.
Why wasn't he "accepted earlier"?!!LOL. Because he didn't participate earlier!!!!LOL.
The Greeks 'didn't believe the Macedonians were Greek"?!!!!LOL. Let's see..the name "Macedonia" is Greek, the founding kingdom was from Argos, close to Sparta..and as Herodotus, the famous Greek historian said: "I know, that the descendants of Perdiccas are Greek, as they claim themselves". THE END. Your fighting from a pointless point of view..LOL.
LOL..if Greece; who owes HALF what Spain owes to Germany and France, and who owes less than Ireland, and who Portugal is catching up to QUICKLY, is in financial trouble.. and after hosting the Olympics during the worst recession Europe has seen since WW2 is..the oshki boshki EU begging, looking for a history slavo mongols should be REALLY worried about their WORTHLESS nation..LOL. TELOS.
I speak Greek as the ancient Greeks did.I live in the same place as the ancient Greeks did. I declare myself to be Greek and there is no other people to do so, therefore i must be Greek. U claim to be Macedon but so am i. But only i can read and understand the ancient Macedon inscriptions written in Greek. only i can understand what the Macedon-Greek names Alexander or Philip means. Why?
akrivos opos ta les me tin diafora esei eisai enas apo tous bulgarokomitajides pou pisteveis otoi oi makedones den einai ellines apo tin stigmi osa exoun afisei ola einai gramena sta elinika kai oxi sta slavika pou pisteveis .kai epeidei genithikes an kai genithikes stin makedonia den se kanei makedona oton les otoi oi progonoi mou den eitan ellines .ean exeis dei to profail mou einai to onoma mou kai oi pragmatikoi fotografia mou .then exo anagi na krivome piso apo pseftika onomata kai idees.
Den hraziomaste tous slavos na mas sistisoune stin agnotita tis ratsa mas. Propandos, pou I slavi itane poulemeni os sklavi, se tosous megalos arithmous; oti I lexis "sklavo"(slave) erhete apo tin lexi "slavo"(slav)..LOL. I poutanes tis Evropis; I "slavi"; tha mas kanoune koumando apo agnotita..LOL. Siga!!!!LOL.
theawp45..PART 1 How come they didn't achieve independance then?..how come YOUR slavic people didn't either?..how come THEIR revolts weren't successful?!!LOL. What your trying to laughably suggest, is that 80,000,000 turks were too "distracted" by a broken off northern Romania..and also, Romania didn't benefit from OUR rebellion vice/versa!!!!LOL. Do you see how ridiculous and petty you are; in hopes of claiming OUR history?!!!!LOL.
GREAT VIDEO !!!!!!!!!!!! one day karma will bite The former ottoman empire reubpic of greece on its arseee.......Much love to all the MACEDONIAN people everywhere, from australia xoxoxo ......Greeks = racism...... TE SAKAMMM MAKEDONIJA
Macedonia is one and for Macedonians , not for greeks and other wannabe Macedonians ! I'M PROUD MACEDONIAN , doughter of motherland of kings with blue blood !!!
he couldnt possibly do that cause these books were translated in numerous languages. there are books with herodotus aristotle curtius rufius survived from the year 180. so dont comment if u dont know or if ur opinion is formed from some stupid videos on youtube.
they all have said that macedonians are diferent nation, so lets leave the ancient history to ancient historians and look what happened in 1913 when Macedonia was brutally invaded and partioned bertween Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia.
i'm only said ancient macedonia was hellec coming from the same tribe as spartans(dorian) i didnt say anything about the skopians who lived in macedonia for 1000 years.
as far as balkan wars u did nothing so i guess u were happy under ottoman rule?
u didnt had any revolutions(read the memoirs of the VMRO leaders-they clearly wanted to unite with bulgaria) so we did this to protect hellens living in the are, u did nothing and u didnt even fight for ur freedom.
Approvals can be given for all areas defined as public interest in scientific research activity, except for investigative research in the field of historical and cultural identity of the Macedonian people and nationalities that live in.
It is very difficult to convince an accomplished people such as the Macedonians that they "don´t exist" and that they are really "not Macedonians" at all but something else. Of course no one can explain what that "something else" might be. And all this comes from who? The Greeks and Bulgarians, the very same people who brutally invaded, occupied and partitioned Macedonia?
u could before u started this lies. cause u knew that there was numerous proofs that state the opposite. but yet continued with the lie and now u have no identity.
dont steal history, make history.
i am not the one that will say u dont exist, i say only that u dont have any connection with real macedonia, so its up to u to find who u are. u r no macedonians
call urself paionians, slavs, bulgarians i dont care
The Greeks know and if they don´t know they should learn two things; one, Modern Greeks occupied and annexed Macedonia by force for the first time in 1912 and ever since have committed many atrocities against the Macedonian people.
And two, the Modern Greeks of today are not "Greeks" at all but an artificial Philhellene creation made up of a collection of Slavs, Albanians, Vlachs, Macedonians, Christian Turks and others. Modern Greeks are not who they claim to be and they are lucky and should be grateful that they even have Greece, a country to call their own.
100% TRUE. Macedonia is Macedonia. Greeks should worry about their own country and LAY OFF MINE.
Annabanana99923 1 month ago
@Annabanana99923Join Bulgaria. Atleast we can protect you from Greece. :)
emilpenkov969 1 month ago
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@Annabanana99923 Join Bulgaria. Atleast we can protect you from Greece. :)
emilpenkov969 1 month ago
@Annabanana99923
Macedonia is in Greece. FYROM is located in a region called PAEONIA in antiquity. Your ancestors self-identified as BULGARIANS. You prefer to believe in nationalist myths than function in reality.
GemistusPletho 1 month ago
@Annabanana99923
'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' - FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov, Ottawa Citizen Newspaper, February 24 1999
GemistusPletho 1 month ago
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you want to find out if Alexander the Great is Greek or Skopjan you have only to visit the exhibition at Louvre in Paris until 15-January-2012.
MrNounda 2 months ago
Wikipedia is your source? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA. How about Google Earth, too? They have their heads up their ass, too, when identifying Macedonia as FYROM...how uninformed Wikipedia and Google are to not know that MACEDONIA IS MACEDONIA AND HAS BEEN FOR 3,000 YEARS!
macedonia4eva1 6 months ago 3
Πανε και γαμησου παλιομουνι Kozabashia
BDMDollar 8 months ago
HAHA FYROM MEANS:NATION WITHOUT HISTORY WHICH STEALS OUR GREAT HISTORY...IT ALSO MEANS A NATION WITHOUT ANCIENT LANGUAGE(IS FROM RUSSIA, RUSSIAN LANGUAGE ARE FROM GREEK HOLY PEOPLE,READ SOME HISTORY;)]
magazZzZ96 8 months ago
you are πουστης
ThePJcompany 8 months ago
Alexander was born in Pella!
BagdatisTheGreat 8 months ago
lol
Macedon2010 10 months ago
ΥΕΑΗ ΟΚ ΙT'S A MYTH.ERODOTUS WRITES:MACEDONIANS WERE DORIEIS.OMIROS (the most ancient author)LIST THE Pelasgoean AND GREEKS WHO LIVED IN MACEDONIA.SO DUDE,IT'S SO LAME TO SAY THAT MACEDONIA ISN'T GREEK.
Joanne7u8 10 months ago
READ THIS.ALEXANDER THE GREAT WAS GREEK.PROOF?he participated in n the Olympic Games in 324 BC.We know that participation in the Olympic Games allowed only in GREEK, free citizens and not others.So if he was born in Skopje, as claimed, neither the name nor the language and religion would be Greek, but neither would participate in the Olympics.
Joanne7u8 10 months ago
Here is a little proof you fucking slavobastards from skopia retarded sperm children of Tito.
Google......." Macedonia Evidence "
Then go slavofuck yourselves you pathetic yugo morons.
nmt1969 1 year ago
you fucking people from FYROM steal our history!
MrsYotavril 1 year ago
Even Gotse Deltchev,the famous Macedonian revolutionary leader,whose nome de guerre was Ahil (Achilles) "refers to the Slavs of Macedonia as 'Bulgarians' in an offhanded manner without seeming to indicate that such a designation was a point of contention" (Perry 1988:23).In his correspondence Gotse Deltchev often states simple and clearly,"We are Bulgarians" (Mac Dermott 1978:192,273).
trisnna9801 1 year ago
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What do you think is more likely? The whole world is lying to you. Or... some political leaders of a young country are using this topic to gain support for there own political aspirations.
trisnna9801 1 year ago
i´am you´r fucker boulgars
shit country suck my big dick
PanosTheHack 1 year ago
keep dreaming bulgarian
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deedeegr100 1 year ago
Thats True.People from Greece,dont Have any Connection with Ancient Greeks.
They Mostly came from litel Asia and they Turks by Origyn.They in Exchange for Moslem Population of Macedonia and Tesaliya ...
Origynal People of This Area are Mostly Macedonians and Albanians ...
Bosanaczesci 1 year ago
@Bosanaczesci oh yeah?so why the language are the same?if we were turks then why we fought them..?
why all the ancient greeks names are THE SAME WITH THE GREEK NAMES?
Joanne7u8 10 months ago
MAKEDNOS THERFOR GREEK
SLAV THEREFOR SLAV
ENJOY MONKEYS
youtube.com/watch?v=3wwXOmFHqts
kostasdania 1 year ago
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MACEDONIA IS GREEK/ HELLENIC
MACEDONIANS ARE GREEKS/ HELLENES
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
THIS VIDEO IS FYROM BULGARIAN TURK LIES
Krste Misirkov, 1903, "our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"
ONLY A GREEK CAN BE A MACEDONIAN.
FYROM IS NOT MACEDONIAN PEOPLE - THEY ARE BULGARIAN & OTHER PEOPLE.
FYROM IS PAIONIA - ONLY SMALL PART IS REAL MACEDONIA NOW STOLEN FROM GREEKS.
ONLY A GREEK CAN BE A MACEDONIAN - MAKEDON ORIGINAL GREEK NAME AND GREEK HOMELAND FOREVER.
SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago
@SMYRNAfreedom FOREVER AND BEOND!!!!!
AND WHEN TIME COMES WE WILL BE HERE WAITING WITH A RAIN OF BULLETS...OOPS SORRY BANANAS FOR THE MONKEYDONIAN
SOVINISTS...
COME AND GET IT MONKEYS U WILL BE DEAD AT THE BORDER LINE...AND IT WILL NOT BE BY SOLDIERS...
ORISTE PERASTE..SFAIRA KANEIS?
kostasdania 1 year ago
Great vid.! Long live the one and ONLY Macedonia! Greetings & big support from Holland!
MrBlackmambo 1 year ago
@MrBlackmambo
ofnie vriend marcedonia = marcedonia
Nothing is from greeks only there poor land has no economie !
DonBayrak 1 year ago
@DonBayrak Inderdaad kerel! Waar grieken om bekent staan weten we allemaal: liegen & bedriegen!
MrBlackmambo 1 year ago
@MrBlackmambo
Juist uhm !!
DonBayrak 1 year ago
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I dont care about your DNA either but tell me where is the reason (logic) in wikipaidia supporting that Alexander the Great is a Hellin while calling you Macedonians.
I am not a racist I was playing online biliard with a Scopjan once and when I was about to win I hit the 8 ball , lost and told him I had nothing against him
I know you believe you are Macedonian but using DNA as an arguiment is out of the quistion for both of us.
JohnKeotes 1 year ago
I dont care about your DNA either but tell me where is the reason (logic) in wikipaidia supporting that Alexander the Great is a Hellin while calling you Macedonians.
I am not a racist I was playing online biliard with a Scopjan once and when I was about to win I hit the 8 ball , lost and told him I had nothing against him
I know you believe you are Macedonian but using DNA as an arguiment is out of the quistion for both of us.
JohnKeotes 1 year ago
Do you say we are not Hellines only because of our dna you shameless Scopjan?
We respect our ancenstors we are proud of our history we speake the Hellenic language and we have the same religion as they did, we also admit their mistakes and take renposibility as their hairs AND YOU SAY TO ME I AM NOT A HELLIN ONLY BECAUSE OF MY DNA YOU SURE HAVE A NERVE.
JohnKeotes 1 year ago
Bravo my friend tell those Greek assholes Macedonia is not Greek. that was really good. Македонија!! Greece sucks ass and is in bankruptcy hahaha
dwwade3 1 year ago
watch?v=E5PCpxV2Imw
protsimer 1 year ago
kozabashia ΣΕ ΓΑΜΩ ΚΑΙ ΣΠΑΩ ΠΛΑΚΑ ΣΚΟΠΙΑΝΕ ΠΑΛΙΟΜΑΛΑΚΑ
terraprod 1 year ago
@Arhs77 Well I am not Slavic, I am Italian but Macedonian and Greek are two of the languages that I can speak fluently. Also Macedonian has a cyrillic alphabet while Greek has its own alphabet. The point I am trying to make is that Macedonian and Greek are different languages, and they are unique and great languages.
Chezrocksall 1 year ago
@Chezrocksall Amigo italiano the language that you speak and you call it macedonian tell me isn't it a Slavic language?The language that you call macedonian is slavic and couldn't be used by ancient macedonians who were greeks. una fatsa una ratsa
terraprod 1 year ago
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Chezrocksall 1 year ago
@terraprod Yes you are right, the modern Macedonian language is slavic, and yes I do understand that the language could not be used by ancient Macedonians who were Greeks. I was just trying to make a point, that's all. By the way, pretty good Italian, how did you learn these Italian words?
Chezrocksall 1 year ago
@Chezrocksall Mia mama astudiato a Ferrara amigo. Italia is a wonderful country my friend,women,food,music,culture everything!
terraprod 1 year ago
LONG LIVE OUR MACEDONIA
anger96 1 year ago
Greece is fucked up for good not only they owe more than 300 milliard euros the Germans will cut out their islands too if they don't return 25 milliards (with fee) to them hahaahahhaah
anger96 1 year ago
@anger96 yes yes you are dreaming who they are gonna take our islands idiot? And first of all you should know that German still has to pay greece over 80billion euros for the damages that he did in the ww2 greece never get some money back for the destructions that happened
terraprod 1 year ago
@ellinorosonhool Do you even know how to speak Macedonian? Macedonian and Greek are NOT the same language, and it is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of FACT. I speak both Greek and Macedonian fluently and they are NOT, I repeat NOT the same. Thank you.
Chezrocksall 1 year ago
@Chezrocksall Hello can you explain to me why Alexander chose to speak and write in Greek and lets imagine he was slav like you why isn't your alphabet called Alexandrian or maybe Amyndian ?
Arhs77 1 year ago
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Chezrocksall 1 year ago
wow verdeska is begging for some history in order to become a nation....poor poor...how can people fall that low :(. Well you people shouldn't steal history. You should start Making some.
RadioOperator01 1 year ago
we have prepare the war !!you have prepared too!!!!MACEDONIA IS GREEK !!!!!THERE IS WRITTEN THE HISTORY!!!!THE BIG ALEXANDER WAS GREEK AND YOU KNOW IT ALL OF YOU!!!!MACEDONIA IS GREEEEEEEEEEEEK!!!!PREPARE FOR WAR!!!THE GREEKS ARE COMING TO SCOPIA!!!!
ellinorosonhool 1 year ago
and you are Macedonians ??? You just have the name! you were just some nations from north and came to fight Macedonians and some of you get mixed with them!!! No relatinship with Alexander The Great... You mention some truths but you do not mention your real origine. Do not try to find and steal history... When Greeks werer setting the base for the biggest politism change in the world you were grazing the sheep...
kthebig3773 1 year ago
haha, stupid people from skopjia. you are slavian and you will pay for being rude to the Greeks. Macedonia has always been Greek and you will not steal our name. you are a country without ID.
alexisabarth 1 year ago
so kozabashia you say that Philippos called his son Aleksandrofski ? and aleksandros called his father Philipofski ? both called their land makedonija ? SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME or maybe SHAMEFSKI
who are you trying to convince me or you ?
History has been written and the facts are plain. To deny Truth is an indication of weakness and inferiority. Case Closed.
Paulos Xrysikos
Vergina, Hmathia Greece
I'm not a net-coward, here is my full name, you can find my e-mail at my profile. Peace.
dukedelouben 1 year ago
another FACT i repeat FACT:
-Why would the ancient Greeks place the home of their gods( Zeus Athena Poseidon etc) on MT OLYMPUS which is located in ancient Macedonia??
Does it make sense for a people to place their holy sites in a foreign land?? Doesn't anyone think logically anymore?
Today's FYROM scholars have NO TANGIBLE EVIDENCE to claim that the ancient Macedonians were not Greek just revisionistic lies!!!!
dukedelouben 1 year ago 6
another FACT i repeat FACT :
-Where is this non-Greek Macedonian culture hiding?
-All ancient Macedonian artifacts are Greek
Are we suppose to believe the that the ancient Macedonians were not Greek and then one day out of the blue they said the hell with it let's be Greek? Lets speak Greek, worship Greek gods, write in Greek, structure our conquered territory based on Greek ideas and culture, setting up gymnasiums, theater, agoras..etc.. come on people!!!
dukedelouben 1 year ago
Id like to ask or suggest some food for though to my VARDAR readers or disbelievers that the Macedonians were Greek these FACTS (i repeat FACTS) :
1) Why is there no evidence of a non-Greek Macedonian language?
- Because the ancient Macedonians spoke Greek and had Greek NAMES. All makedonia names and cities (and when i say all i mean ALL) means something to my language,i used them to my daily speech, i can interpret them, even a child can!! the very same language i use that second !!
dukedelouben 1 year ago
My friend Kozabashia, i can post quotes and proofs that makedones was a greek tribe, till the end of time, i can fill hundred of pages.Just google ''ARGEAD DYNASTY'' and get the informations you want from INDEPENDENT encyclopedias from serious universities around the globe, you should be impressed by the results :), leave aside the ignorant historians of yours, don't be a victim, all the tangibly evidence is against your video, why are you forging history ? all the sources u provide is biased !
dukedelouben 1 year ago
The book of john shea have several major mistakes, even a child can recognise !!!
So, the synopsis of the book is that Ancient Makedonians were slavic. According to the author, the Ancient Makedonians did not speak a Hellenic dialect and Alexander the Great's tutor, Aristotle, taught him a slavic dialect.That makes Aristotle a slav too since he was born in Ancient Makedonia. Mr O'Shea go get an education in ancient and Balkan history before you go and write a totally BIASED book.
dukedelouben 1 year ago
at the end of your video you refer to John Shea's book.
Well,(at least his not a fanatic) though have some mistakes, he collect testimonies only from the slav-spoken people, not greak-spoken natives of makedonia. (why?) I i don't want to disappoint you my friend but i consider myself Hellena, my grandparents are here from the beginning of history,(surprise !!! i know another 2 million with the same characteristics) i speak the greek language like aleksandros and his soldiers (..continued..)
dukedelouben 1 year ago
this is your INDEPENDENT sources ? Joseph Gandeto ?
man you can't be serious !!! He is a fyromian propagandist that lives in America, i read his books, full of historical misleads and mistakes !!! this man doesn't even study archaeology !!! He is blind from hatred towards to Hellenic people !!! and you provide him as an independent and reliable source ? are you insane ?
oh ! it gets even better ! Michael Dimitri !! Another fake-makedonian-American propagandist !
dukedelouben 1 year ago
Skopjan Propaganda, like the Turks who want to claim Greek History....
Go Back to the Steppes of Russia where you belong.....
Hypothekleas 1 year ago
Macedonia Greek and Only!!! all the others are monkeydonians
gorosXimarra 1 year ago
braco brate mnogo dobri videi pravis macedonia forever GAMO TIN ELADA
MARKOforever100 2 years ago
@marko..
You write some oshki boshki slavic bullshit, and try to call yourself "Macedonian"..LOL. Yeah, I'm sure Phillip(meaning lover of horses in Greek), Alexander(meaning unbeatable man in Greek), Aristotle(meaning first among others) spoke some slavic bullshit, that didn't even enter the Balkans until the 6th century, and who came from an iliterates people, before the Greeks introduced the to Christianity..LOL. More like "I ELLADA SAS KANI REZILI..LOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719
You keep repeating the same things
Help help help every one needs help, Greece from the native Christians of the Ottoman Empire, and Macedonia from the Austrians.
After the Persian wars Macedonia gradually became Hellenized. Between 500 BC and 300 BC, the capital was changed, the language was changed, the culture changed, the government changed all from the influence of Athens and their allies
TheAwp45 1 year ago
@TheAwp45..PART 2
YOU keep making a losing argument. Even by your OWN definition, Macedonia was Greek by 500 BC(which is a wrong analogy)..so your slavic people; who entered the Balkans in the 6th century AD, have NO connection to Macedonia. Furthermore, your suggesting that a people called "Macedonian"; which is a Greek name, come from a non-Greek root!!LOL.
From Wikipedia:"Macedonia was an ancient kingdom, centered in the north eastern part of the Greek penninsula".
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@TheAwp45..PART 5
The native "Christians" had their OWN independance to worry about....while Greece already achieved it's!!!!LOL. Stupid analogy..as usual. The first capitol of Macedonia was Aegaie..a Greek name. All subsequent cities were also Greek.. The name of the state of Macedonia is Greek, the names of it's people were Greek..and all the tribes that were non-Greek have no claim to the Macedonian identity..since they were not defined by it in name, race, or culutre. PERIOD.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@TheAwp45..LASLY
You avoid my challenges by running in pointless ciricles..LOL. I've shown you quotes from Herodotus, Alexander himself, and have one from your prime minister in 1993.."In the Balkans, you need a history of 1,000s of years..so we INVENTED one!!". Also, you've never addressed the fact that your a slavic people, who didn't even enter the Balkans until the 6th century AD!!!!. Wikipedia shows it's sources at the bottom. STOP WASTING TIME. THE END!!!!!!!!!!.
Vasilis719 1 year ago 2
@Vasilis719
Why wasn't he accepted earlier? Even the ancient Greeks believed the Macedonians weren't Greek and it was hard for Alexander to get in just to play a game
TheAwp45 1 year ago
LASTLY..PART 2
A recent documentary that was put together by a group of PhDs, studied the genetic origins of 300,000 random people in New York city. One was a Greek gentlemen. His test should he was an Indo-European, and of the first people to populate Europe..consistant with Greek history. This was 2009!!!!LOL. Also, the genetic testing of Greeks from different regions, found a racial consistancy with themselves and the ancients. The reason givin, was the isolation of the Greek gene. END
Vasilis719 2 years ago
TWO THINGS..which will put this argument to rest..PART 1 "Macedonia" is a Greek name, meaning "Highlander, tall". All the characteristics of Macedon are Greek..Doric Greek language, alphabet, religion, education, etc. As Alexander the 1st said.."I am by Greek by ancient decent". Also, the prime minister of the former Yugoslavian vardeskans said.."In the Balkans, you need to have a history of 4-5,000 years to be taken seriously..so we INVENTED one"LOL.
Vasilis719 2 years ago
@Vasilis719
And then he was Greek cause he said he was Greek. Bravo. Then after him Macedonia became Hellenized. Also, there were many Greek languages in Greece before koine. And I see Koine as being made from Doric and and early Attic. I see early Attic being made from Phoenician and Ionian. Ionians were the native greeks before Dorics and Attics. Dorics were invaders from the north. A Doric established Macedonia. The ancient Greeks as every one thinks are Attics and Koines
TheAwp45 1 year ago
@TheAwp45..PART 3 Are you retarded?!!!LOL. Not ONLY did Herodotus call the Macedonians "Greek", Alexander had to prove his Argead(from Argos) lineage to participate in the Olympics. His words at the Olympics.."I am, by ancient descent, GREEK". But I'm sure you'll disagree with Herodotus and Alexander..and the fact that "Macedonia" is a GREEK name..and that names like "Perdiccas", "Phillip", "Alexnader", "Aristotle", etc. are GREEK.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@TheAwp45..PART 4
The Greek language and people had(and still does) different dialects, not different "languages"!!!!LOL. Doric Greek is one of those dialects. Phoenician is a semetic language, unlike Greek, which is Indo-European!!!LOL. The Ionians were Greeks situated on the wetsern coast of Aegean Asia(Asia Minor); and in fact, to this day, all arabs, and other middle eastern people call us "Yunan" from "Ionia". Greeks had seperate cit-states, and one was not more"Greek" than another..LOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
Vistinata za Makedonija e Makedonija na Makedoncite
makedonijakanzalija 2 years ago 2
And I believe when people say Cleopatra was Macedonian not Greek. Not even the Romans liked her because she wasn't of their ethnicity. But was an Eastern/Egyptian. If I am mistaken please clear this up for me. Too many false stories is being made it. It's hard to know what is true and what is false these days.
MizzLoveable03 2 years ago
Wow, so not only did the "Greek" people hidden The Egyptians and claim they were all killed off by the Romans (which is not true) because Ancient Egyptian direct descendants still live in Egypt today (non-Arabs) but Nobians/Sudanese. The "Greeks" had also hidden the Macedonians. WTF!
MizzLoveable03 2 years ago
I shouldn't even say direct descendants for their still Egyptians. Even though its an English word. Ok but anyways. Who are those people that live in so-called "Greece" today? I know many years ago there was KMT (Egypt) and another land neighbour to them and who they claim was the Greeks. And how they went to the Egypt temples and stole the stories on Heru (Horus) and Ast (Isis) and it became Jesus and Mary. Who did that, what culture stole the Egyptian philosophy and heritage? @MizzLoveable03
MizzLoveable03 2 years ago
@MizzLoveable03
WHO are the Greeks who live in Greece?!!LOL. THEY are the people who speak the oldest branch of Indo-European, THEIR nation gave birth to todays most educated and successful minority in the WORLD, THEY were the first to liberate from the turks, THEY managed to be the welathy minority under ottman occupation, who fed lazy races like YOURS and THEIRS..LOL. The Bible was first translated into Greek from Hebrew..YOU MORON..LOL. THE END..LOL.
Vasilis719 2 years ago
@Vasilis719
You needed hep to get liberated. You killed and got rid of every Macedonian after the region of Macedonia was given to the Greeks. And what kind of person goes crazy and this subject
TheAwp45 1 year ago
@theAwp45..PART 1
WE needed help?!!!!LOL. WE funded our war, and spilled OUR blood against an enemy who had the WHOLE muslim world on their side, and who had French generals train their army!!!!. ALL the wealthy and educated people under turkish occupation were Greeks, Armenians, and Jews. PERIOD. The "Philhelenes" supported us by CHOICE, and weren't fighting on behalf of any nation. Once Europeans got invovled to train the turks, Europeans offered help to Greece and evened the playing field.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@theAwp45..PART 2
While your a people who gave birth to the word "slave" from how many of your people were sold into slavery..and while you were STILL under turkish domination..Greece was the first nation to liberate itself from the turks!!!!. It took Russia; your slavic brothers, to help you achieve liberation..and ONLY as part of a whole "slavic" combination..since your a Bulgarian-vardeskan people. Your race is foreign to Macedonia. You entered the Balkans in the 6th century!!!!LOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Theawp45..LASTLY
You live in the smallest part of Macedonia, and share no lineage to the obvious Hellenic history of the Macedonians. "Macedonia" being a Greek word meaning "highlander, tall"..plus religion, alphabet, Dorian dialect, and education. The age of Alexander is known as the "Hellenisitc". The founding kingdom of Macedon was from Argos in southern Geece. The facts speak for theselves. PERIOD. THE END.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@TheAwp45 First, you whine about "help" unjustifiably..and then admit you were "helped", and that it's ok, because things weren't "easy"..LOL. Macedonia is a Greek name, of a Dorian Greek people, who spoke and wrote in Greek, had the same religion of the other Greeks, and had the same education. The founding kingdom was GREEK, and were an aristocracy like the Spartans..who also are from Pelloponisos. YOUR people are a slavic people, not related in ANY way to Macedon. PERIOD.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719
1st of all, stop putting your comments in short parts, i don't like scrolling down to watch all the spam u added. They were distracted by all the other revolts and such. Of course Wikipedia says that, every one thinks it is Greek cause where they went Hellenism followed. You ever heard of the DORIAN invasion? The Doric language or "dialect" was invented in Epirus or beyond the Balkans. Following the Dorian invasion and assimilation, Attic was born from Ionian, Doric and Phoenician
TheAwp45 1 year ago
@TheAwp45..PART 2
What "Short parts", what "spam"?!!!LOL. So the turks were "distratced" by other revolts, but only the Greek one was successful at that time?!!!!!LOL. Do you see how ridiculous and desperate you are?!!!!. The "Dorians" were a Hellenic tribe, and Epirus a Greek state; where Alexander's mother was from. "Assimilation" amongst the Greeks occurred after the uniting of the Greek world by Alexander. The Ionians were from the Asian coast..Phoneicians are semetic!. Stop wasting time!.
Vasilis719 1 year ago 2
@Vasilis719
The founder was from Argos but his father invaded the Peloponnese and divided it among themselves in which the father got Argos. The Karanus lost the inheritance to Argos to his brother so then he set out to find a new kingdom called Macedon. He did try to participate but the Greeks thought he wasn't an Argive so they tried keeping him out. And would you stop saying LOL i beginning to think u r crazy
TheAwp45 1 year ago
@TheAwp45
So WHERE was the founder's father from?!!!!LOL. Karanus?!!. What kind of a ethnic name do YOU think that is?!!!. what culture did the Argeads practice!!!!. The point your trying to make, actually backs up the point that Macedon was(and is) a GREEK state. Alexander didn't "try" to participate..he DID; and tied for first place in the foot race. His words:"I am Greek, by ancient descent". But It's funny how you don't address THAT, or Herodotus' quotes about Macedonians. Macedon=Greek.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719
Austria helped us become liberated and they are Germans
A lot of other part of the Ottoman Empire was already rebelling and it wasn't easy for them to take care of it
He was probably born in Argos but his ancestors came from the north into the Peloponnese or from Anatolia.
Plus how do you know if we are related to the Macedonians or not? How would you know too?
TheAwp45 1 year ago
@TheAwp45
Why wasn't he "accepted earlier"?!!LOL. Because he didn't participate earlier!!!!LOL.
The Greeks 'didn't believe the Macedonians were Greek"?!!!!LOL. Let's see..the name "Macedonia" is Greek, the founding kingdom was from Argos, close to Sparta..and as Herodotus, the famous Greek historian said: "I know, that the descendants of Perdiccas are Greek, as they claim themselves". THE END. Your fighting from a pointless point of view..LOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
true that macedonia is NOT greece and i respect u for posting this video!!!!
IM BORN A MACEDONIAN AND IM GOING TO DIE A MACEDONIAN!!!!!!!!!!!
MACEDONIA FOREVER
WEIRDgirl7231 2 years ago
Bankrupt Republic of Greece or Bankrupt Hellenofascist Republic
of Greece
or No more Souvlaki Republic of Greece or The Former Bankrupt Republic of Greece
or The Panhandle Republic of Greece
or The Thieving Republic of Greece
or Corrupt to the core Republic of Greece
or No more Draxma Republic of Greece
or Down the Drain Republic of Greece
Kozabashia 2 years ago
@Kozabashia
LOL..if Greece; who owes HALF what Spain owes to Germany and France, and who owes less than Ireland, and who Portugal is catching up to QUICKLY, is in financial trouble.. and after hosting the Olympics during the worst recession Europe has seen since WW2 is..the oshki boshki EU begging, looking for a history slavo mongols should be REALLY worried about their WORTHLESS nation..LOL. TELOS.
Vasilis719 2 years ago
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@Kozabashia OR your mother got fucked by the whole Republic of Greece
MrStavrosvaroud 1 year ago
BANG - New Suitable name for Greece estabilished by consensus In EU: BAnkruptcy Nation of Greeks
kabadajabt 2 years ago
macedonia forever from ur Turkish brothers
ceko1907 2 years ago
How much studying was involved in this video?
I like it!
Aleksandar105 2 years ago 2
Greeks Shut Up The name Macedonia will be Forever
TottiMacedonia 2 years ago 2
@TottiMacedonia Idiot!
Hypothekleas 1 year ago
Ke dojde li nekogash pravdata za Makedonija :'( ?
vladefreak 2 years ago
I speak Greek as the ancient Greeks did.I live in the same place as the ancient Greeks did. I declare myself to be Greek and there is no other people to do so, therefore i must be Greek. U claim to be Macedon but so am i. But only i can read and understand the ancient Macedon inscriptions written in Greek. only i can understand what the Macedon-Greek names Alexander or Philip means. Why?
apostolos74 2 years ago 2
Ade phuckisou re Grecopust malaka idiot
Kozabashia 2 years ago
@Kozabashia ESY ANDE GAMISU MALAKATARTARIAN KAI PAS NA MOU TO PAIXEIS MAKEDONAS SAN KAI MENA
DALAMYIAN 2 years ago
Πραγματική γνώση είναι να γνωρίζουμε την έκταση της άγνοιας του.
Kozabashia 2 years ago
akrivos opos ta les me tin diafora esei eisai enas apo tous bulgarokomitajides pou pisteveis otoi oi makedones den einai ellines apo tin stigmi osa exoun afisei ola einai gramena sta elinika kai oxi sta slavika pou pisteveis .kai epeidei genithikes an kai genithikes stin makedonia den se kanei makedona oton les otoi oi progonoi mou den eitan ellines .ean exeis dei to profail mou einai to onoma mou kai oi pragmatikoi fotografia mou .then exo anagi na krivome piso apo pseftika onomata kai idees.
DALAMYIAN 2 years ago
@kozabashia
Den hraziomaste tous slavos na mas sistisoune stin agnotita tis ratsa mas. Propandos, pou I slavi itane poulemeni os sklavi, se tosous megalos arithmous; oti I lexis "sklavo"(slave) erhete apo tin lexi "slavo"(slav)..LOL. I poutanes tis Evropis; I "slavi"; tha mas kanoune koumando apo agnotita..LOL. Siga!!!!LOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719
By the time you started revolting, northern Romania actually broke off from the Ottomans and every other part of the Empire was already revolting.
TheAwp45 1 year ago
theawp45..PART 1 How come they didn't achieve independance then?..how come YOUR slavic people didn't either?..how come THEIR revolts weren't successful?!!LOL. What your trying to laughably suggest, is that 80,000,000 turks were too "distracted" by a broken off northern Romania..and also, Romania didn't benefit from OUR rebellion vice/versa!!!!LOL. Do you see how ridiculous and petty you are; in hopes of claiming OUR history?!!!!LOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
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You are totally right, Greeks are Ethiopian.
5*****
PatrioticTuranist 2 years ago
bravo !!
Macedonia to the MACEDONIANS
AlexanderTheGreatMKD 2 years ago 2
Great video! Makedonia je vechna (timless)...i vekojta... We are who we are! that is Makedonci...and always will be!
lana223344 2 years ago
P.S: All the Greek noobs who spam youtube to give Macedonians thumbs-down are failing big time. /clap
SoniStreet 2 years ago
The time for greeks to learn who are the real Macedonians is so close you can smell it :) MAKEDONIJA 4EVER
SoniStreet 2 years ago 2
super video brat, ala da ti e, pozdrav
coolmkdmacedonia 2 years ago
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XxBarTuCxX 2 years ago
GREAT VIDEO !!!!!!!!!!!! one day karma will bite The former ottoman empire reubpic of greece on its arseee.......Much love to all the MACEDONIAN people everywhere, from australia xoxoxo ......Greeks = racism...... TE SAKAMMM MAKEDONIJA
DriftAway23 2 years ago
bravo
boskomac 2 years ago
Macedonia is one and for Macedonians , not for greeks and other wannabe Macedonians ! I'M PROUD MACEDONIAN , doughter of motherland of kings with blue blood !!!
MrsELENASOLUN 2 years ago
PA SE RAZBIRA DEKA MAKEDONIJA E NA MAKEDONCITE ! SUPER ! Samo edna e Makedonija , ama ne na ciganite !
MrsELENASOLUN 2 years ago
there are numerous books.
from herodotus , arrian, callisthenes, aristotle, curtius rufius and many more.
even in the bible there is proof
(Daniel 8:15-22 RSV)
why u r saying such lies?
dimalex8 2 years ago
who re-wrote your history?
hint: he`s bavarian.
massivedonia 2 years ago
he couldnt possibly do that cause these books were translated in numerous languages. there are books with herodotus aristotle curtius rufius survived from the year 180. so dont comment if u dont know or if ur opinion is formed from some stupid videos on youtube.
dimalex8 2 years ago
they all have said that macedonians are diferent nation, so lets leave the ancient history to ancient historians and look what happened in 1913 when Macedonia was brutally invaded and partioned bertween Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia.
massivedonia 2 years ago 2
i'm only said ancient macedonia was hellec coming from the same tribe as spartans(dorian) i didnt say anything about the skopians who lived in macedonia for 1000 years.
as far as balkan wars u did nothing so i guess u were happy under ottoman rule?
u didnt had any revolutions(read the memoirs of the VMRO leaders-they clearly wanted to unite with bulgaria) so we did this to protect hellens living in the are, u did nothing and u didnt even fight for ur freedom.
dimalex8 2 years ago
and we invaded ottomans not macedonia, its different thing, we fought , there was no macedonia nation that time to invade.
i'm waiting any proof of what u claim. even in front of ur parliament there is an ancient macedonian inscription.
guess what? all greek letters. all greek words.
dimalex8 2 years ago
article 16 of the scientific research of FYRoM:
Approvals can be given for all areas defined as public interest in scientific research activity, except for investigative research in the field of historical and cultural identity of the Macedonian people and nationalities that live in.
what are utrying to hide?
dimalex8 2 years ago
It is very difficult to convince an accomplished people such as the Macedonians that they "don´t exist" and that they are really "not Macedonians" at all but something else. Of course no one can explain what that "something else" might be. And all this comes from who? The Greeks and Bulgarians, the very same people who brutally invaded, occupied and partitioned Macedonia?
massivedonia 2 years ago
u could before u started this lies. cause u knew that there was numerous proofs that state the opposite. but yet continued with the lie and now u have no identity.
dont steal history, make history.
i am not the one that will say u dont exist, i say only that u dont have any connection with real macedonia, so its up to u to find who u are. u r no macedonians
call urself paionians, slavs, bulgarians i dont care
dimalex8 2 years ago
The Greeks know and if they don´t know they should learn two things; one, Modern Greeks occupied and annexed Macedonia by force for the first time in 1912 and ever since have committed many atrocities against the Macedonian people.
massivedonia 2 years ago 2
And two, the Modern Greeks of today are not "Greeks" at all but an artificial Philhellene creation made up of a collection of Slavs, Albanians, Vlachs, Macedonians, Christian Turks and others. Modern Greeks are not who they claim to be and they are lucky and should be grateful that they even have Greece, a country to call their own.
massivedonia 2 years ago
i can tell the same for u.
u mean that greeks today are mixed but u stayed clear macedonians?
as much as we are mixed so are u.
dimalex8 2 years ago
any proof?
and dont tell me again about the civil war.
dimalex8 2 years ago
odlicen klip brat,DA ZIVEE MAKEDONIJA...
miackmk 2 years ago
behold the "ancient" ones...
"greeks"????
bobo87mk 2 years ago
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Bravo brat super e videoto.DA ZIVEE MAKEDONIJA
BazeSkorpion 2 years ago
Bravo brat super e videoto.DA ZIVEE MAKEDONIJA
BazeSkorpion 2 years ago 2
Videoto e ZAKON ! Bravo brat ! super ! All of you uneducated wannabe Macedonians , watch this video and educate yourself !
BestKingPhiLip 2 years ago 2
Bravo majstore !!! kazi mu na pederite cija e makedonija
Chovek1 2 years ago 2