"...and our thoughts turn again to the beginning..."
This game answers the question of life twice--once correctly and once incorrectly. The tech "Intellectual Integrity" claims that the meaning of life is life itself, which displays the ironic fault of Intellectual Integrity. Planet reveals the true purpose of life, which is "celebrating the gift of consciousness."
How do you mean, deserve it? It's a fundamental change in our existence, but not necessarily a rewarding one. All we hope for is that it will let us exist separate from matter, with no fear of death and all that entails.
in fact this theme - humans transcending their very nature - is often present in scientific fiction. if you read asimov's "the last question", which I highly recommend, you will have another example of humanity going beyond the human condition and achieving a godlike state
Honestly, i find this ending to be....slightly disturbing. Call me shallow-minded or fearful of progress for humanity but i prefer my consciousness to be confined to our present, carbon-based form. Correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this means that we would be sharing a centered and single-minded consciousness as a whole? If true, then the notion of 'transcendence' goes against the basic individualistic nature of humanity.
@doane1981 But that's the point I guess. We've transcended from our selfish individualistic minds that caused us so much troubles and finally united as one everlasting consciousness. Personally though, I wouldn't like the idea of a few powerful men making this kind of decision with out our consent."Hey, we're doing this to all of humanity whether they want to or not. They'll see in the end."
@doane1981 Yeah it does. And if conciousness is more than just a product of our brain, then that's probably why we decided to come about in this earth to experience a single conciousness of our own. If there is concousness beyond the brain, I personally think we came from a mass conciousness. As conciousness itself would not be dealing with our space time. It's just thought. Oh well, deep thoughts and happy farts. LOL!
Not only would we be sharing a centered and single-minded consciousness as a whole, but we'd be sharing it with an angry alien that had spent the past several centuries trying to kill us! :D
It is all beautiful: beautiful game, beautiful ending. I still play it quite frequently, and I hope they make Alpha Centauri 2 some day. The only thing I never liked is the voice of the Planet you hear right here in this video. I mean, the voice is disgusting; like the voice actress swallowed a grapefruit, or something. Couldn't they just find a voice actress with soothing, musical voice? It would make this end cutscene epic beyond imagining.
@Alignn Yes. I understand it's supposed to be alien. I'm not an impartial person, and I often think of how it would be if we were to begin having interactions with some extraterrestrial entities. I know that something we humans would consider beautiful might be considered ugly by other standards. That does not mean I must like that alien opinion. Same goes for the Planet Voice. To me, it is disgusting. Plain and simple. But that does NOT mean I do not respect it in it's some other way.
If humanity ascends, what happens to the Progenitors? Likewise, what becomes of mankind if the Usurpers ascend? Will the losing species be driven from the planet or become a part of the greater mind?
Well I would think that the Caretakers would ultimately declare their mission a failure and catch the 8:15 back to Progenitor land. The Usurpers would either fight to the death trying to destroy the ascension temple or, like the Caretakers, skip planet and try to find another of the Manifold worlds to ascend in. If the Usurpers ascended, HO BOY! Humanity would be in deep shit. They'd either be cleansed by design or in an ensuing conflict, or enslaved by the power hungry Usurpers.
This one still brings shivers down my spine and a tear in my eye. I can play SMAC ever and ever again like it were the first time. It's not the gameplay, it's the citations and visionary imagination that make the game my favorite. Thank you Sid Meyer and his team for this wonderful creation. Where have these days gone?
I remember when I last got this victory, I was playing on Tough difficulty and only me, the spartans (who were alllies) and Yang left (who was being a right utter moron). I built voice of planet, then when that was built we all started building this wonder and while I was building it, Yang launched 3 planet busters on the city I was building it in. I stopped 2 of them using satallites but coundn't stop the 3rd. However I got it built in another base and so i still won.
Im kind of starting to like these wonders, and vids, more and more then the ordinary Civ wonders and movies. The Civ 2 are classics, but then its just becomes same old thing with some minore alterations in Civ 3 and on.
I like to think that those seven humans around the sphere are the seven faction leaders - The humanity, in order to transcend, would first overcome their differences and utilize the best of each faction's ideologies.
@PantsuGirl Personally, i want to read The Cat in The Vat =p (One of the books your faction leader might have written at the end of the game, depending on how well you do)
i just started playing Alpha Centauri again (cant find my Alien Crossfire disc though sadly). definitely one of the best games ive ever played. i wish theyd make a new 1. i just won (for the first time since i started playing again) via transcendence with the University Of The Planet. such a fun game
The only factions that Morgan cant outprobe are the Believers and Data angels, but he is the only one that can run fundamentalism and still make discoveries every 5 turns.
and then the other transcended races will be all "who the fuck are these guys" and shove their nonexistient star-energy mathematical incomprehensible boots up our nonexistient star energy mathematical incomprehensible asses.
What are all the secret projects after this????? In the game editor I can watch all the projects in the game, but it goes on to list like 40 transcendece projects...maybe its just theoretical like showing that humans still go on after game ends.
One of the many possible goals in Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri is to transcend into a higher plane of existence, and once you achieve that goal you see this video.
This will happen someday ladies and gentlemen, When Jesus returns to the Earth. We will transend and cast away our mortal bodies and become immortal beings and We will dance in and out of limitless billions of years. Someday this will be the beautiful ending to our story.
dont try to shove your beliefs down our throats you can speak but dont try to force us to believe that what ever your religion is is the right one or your beliefs
it isn't your mind, it is just your belief. I am sure you were born in a christian crowd, if you were born in Iran you would be a Muslim, in Japan you would be Budist. So, this isn't "mind"; mind thinks, you don't think, you just believe in a tale that has been told you since you were a baby
Whether it is or isn't is irrelovent, I believe in it and I have a right to believe in it and say that it is real. It is Me thinking and expressing what is on My mind. You cannot stop Me from Speaking My Mind on here and neither can anyone else.
@yedininka japanese aren't buddhists, most of them aren't religious at all, and most japanese people do not identify as exclusively belonging to just one religion, most of them celebrate Christmas, it's called religious syncretism, and Buddhism, especially Zen which is the japanese varition doesn't consider itself a religion, just a philosophy, like being an existentialist or a neoplatonist or even the philosophy behind metal. You can't believe in philosophy, cause it's based on logic.
All philosophies are based on internal logic from acceptance of certain truths. Buddhism, for example, requires your belief that desire is the inducer of pain and suffering. Naturally, many disagree, arguing that desires can ultimately end pain and suffering. This is a difference of opinion which can be argued on a logical basis but ultimately comes down to individual beliefs.
No its not like a technological singularity. When each human soul merges with the planetmind, each individual becomes an indispensable part of the whole, but your faction is the "leader" group of souls. So basically everyone becomes immortal and can fly all over the universe and such.
Oh, okay, the humans generally want to achieve transcendence because
not doing so = extinction.
The aliens are divided in their view of planet, the Usurpers seek to exploit planet and force transcendence, the Caretakers want to prevent transcendence because they are against interfering with all life forms.
No, transcendence isn't like the world of the matrix. It's the same world they started in, it's just the humans have become immortal and pure, one with the planetmind. They left their physical bodies behind.
I really like how the aesthetics of humanity becomes more religious and reminiscent of the classical era as the technology becomes incomprehensibly complex and advanced. Kinda like going full circle, I guess. :p
they're also debatably the more powerful faction since they have no ecological damage problems and in Alien Crossifre, they're extract tons of resources from the red fungus.
Well, I've never played this game. But Ascending is a common theme in Sci-fi, it usually involves a civilizations reaching a point where they don't need physical bodies and turn into energy beings. Usually, this means they turn god-like and leave the Universe.
the concept is that the fungus on Planet acts as a brain, with the fungus tubules acting as neurons, etc. So this "mind" becomes hostile, humanity uploads all of its knowledge into the 'planetmind' to help it understand humanity, (the voice of planet secret project', and afterwards anyone who wishes can upload their mind into the fungus brain. The Ascent to Transcendence enusres that the leader you play as has the dominant mind.
If you watch the "Voice of Planet" video, Zakharov is talking about using the Datalinks as a weapon against the Planetmind. "Voice of Planet" was an attempt to overwhelm and destroy the Planetmind, but after that failed, the Planetmind had merged with the information on the Datalinks, and it was then possible for a leader to commence the Ascent to Transcendence.
I think the Voice of Planet was actually meant the persuade the Planetmind not to destroy mankind, as it would be such a loss in knowledge and culture and such...
I don't think it was an attempt to destroy the Planetmind. Judging from the storyline interludes, combined with that video, the Voice of Planet project was an attempt to convince the Planetmind that humanity was rich, diverse, and deserved to live. Also, it was to give it the information boost it needed to finally break the growth/collapse cycle it had been in for eons (which threatened humanity on Planet), and achieve true, stable consciousness.
Basically, the info blast in planetmind was a last ditch effort to ensure survival for humanity. After all, how elso could they contend with an entire sentient ecosystem? They used the info burst to try and at least overload the mind so that it either was destroyed, meaning fungus would be like normal plants from earth, or that the planetmind would become fully sentient, meaning it could be reasoned with.
basically the grow cycle cannot be stopped, but by merging humanity with the planetmind they managed to keep some part of humanity alive, according to the GURPS supplement says it best.
"Humanity still exists but as part of the greater planetmind, extensions of consciousness that can travel far from Planet. Transhumans even went to earth to rebuild civilization there."
As for the winning faction becoming the "dominant mind", there's really no proof for that. Transcended humans would all be part of a group consciousness (no competition) and there would also be no physical needs or scarcity of any kind (as far as I can tell) so there would be no dominant mind or dominance of any kind.
If you want to dominate, just go for the "Supreme Leader" victory ;)
during the interludes (storyline) in the game the planet mind and scientists both urge you to complete the ascent where you will be the dominant mind. interludes pop up occasionally during encounters with mind worms, when there's violent fungus growth, and for some specific base facilities and secret projects
Yes, people are truly conscious and working restlessly and without peace, my job is to be clear in my relations to those who are biblical and modern, so fanatics, make a number for the direct line to the same extent of 9/11.
Yes, people are truly conscious and working restlessly and without peace, my job is to be clear in my relations to those who are biblical and modern, so fanatics, make a number for the direct line to the same extention connected as 911.
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Ok, so here is an example of the opposite of the polarities that people (with badges) use to describe the anti christ. Instead of a mad scientist(s) or a political or even technological madmen, who are clear on their intentions, here is an example of a spiritual end, created by the very fabrics that is said is going to , "save" the world...
Some people need to look up evoloution again. It's not Pokemon people, there aren't any levels to it.
Transcense seems a little...flawed. You sacrifice all of humanity to create...what exactly? A new glowy ball with a bad case of multiple personality disorder and the IQ of 10000000? A hive mind with one mother brain at the center-lonely job herding a bunch of vegetables all day.
Ironic that the strongest evouloutinary advantage has been teamwork of indiviguals...
@Herkkis You can't kill Planet. You can however, lose due to wormrape regardless of your econ score. Want a challange? Throw some busters around, let the water fill the whole world due to global warming. Enjoy no resources, hunger, energy shortages and thousands of wormboils coming from everywhere.
Everyone would ascend to the new state of being, but only a few would be the ones in control, the moderators of all souls. So you could take any you didn't like, and eliminate them from existence.
I personally didn't like this concept of transcendence. To me individuality is the highest goal of any sentient being and it's something to defend to the last, even if the benefits of giving it up are practically god like power.
I know that an individual could separate them selves from the whole, but even so I'd rather stay with the mundane humans that didn't join.
Your an Idiot, literary, you do not and probably will never understand such advanced concepts as discent, so take your Ignorant comments back to the Pub or where ever it is you losers go to, such idiocy, why do you even comment
"Childhood's End" by Arthur C. Clarke. There is no other explanation for this video.
jetaimemina 4 days ago
"...and our thoughts turn again to the beginning..."
This game answers the question of life twice--once correctly and once incorrectly. The tech "Intellectual Integrity" claims that the meaning of life is life itself, which displays the ironic fault of Intellectual Integrity. Planet reveals the true purpose of life, which is "celebrating the gift of consciousness."
McSqueaky 1 week ago
I'm going to build this one in real life.
seahen1337 1 month ago
@seahen1337 Not if i do it first.
PantsuGirl 2 weeks ago
If this secret project makes the people on Alpha Centauri transcend, what about the people on Earth?
PantsuGirl 1 month ago
@PantsuGirl
Long gone. The epilogue notes that there's been no communication from them since shortly after the launch of the Unity.
Alignn 1 month ago
I wonder...what if Mankind achieved Transcendence in the real world, let alone our lifetime? Would we even deserve it?
Kemonokami 2 months ago
@Kemonokami
How do you mean, deserve it? It's a fundamental change in our existence, but not necessarily a rewarding one. All we hope for is that it will let us exist separate from matter, with no fear of death and all that entails.
Alignn 1 month ago
Very influenced by Arthur C. Clarke's "Star Child" idea, no?
MarciCow 2 months ago in playlist Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri and Alien Crossfire 2
@MarciCow
in fact this theme - humans transcending their very nature - is often present in scientific fiction. if you read asimov's "the last question", which I highly recommend, you will have another example of humanity going beyond the human condition and achieving a godlike state
idealidade 3 weeks ago
Honestly, i find this ending to be....slightly disturbing. Call me shallow-minded or fearful of progress for humanity but i prefer my consciousness to be confined to our present, carbon-based form. Correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this means that we would be sharing a centered and single-minded consciousness as a whole? If true, then the notion of 'transcendence' goes against the basic individualistic nature of humanity.
doane1981 3 months ago
@doane1981 But that's the point I guess. We've transcended from our selfish individualistic minds that caused us so much troubles and finally united as one everlasting consciousness. Personally though, I wouldn't like the idea of a few powerful men making this kind of decision with out our consent."Hey, we're doing this to all of humanity whether they want to or not. They'll see in the end."
Mcree114 3 months ago
@doane1981 Yeah it does. And if conciousness is more than just a product of our brain, then that's probably why we decided to come about in this earth to experience a single conciousness of our own. If there is concousness beyond the brain, I personally think we came from a mass conciousness. As conciousness itself would not be dealing with our space time. It's just thought. Oh well, deep thoughts and happy farts. LOL!
jmitterii2 3 months ago
@doane1981
Not only would we be sharing a centered and single-minded consciousness as a whole, but we'd be sharing it with an angry alien that had spent the past several centuries trying to kill us! :D
admiralzzyx 2 months ago
It is all beautiful: beautiful game, beautiful ending. I still play it quite frequently, and I hope they make Alpha Centauri 2 some day. The only thing I never liked is the voice of the Planet you hear right here in this video. I mean, the voice is disgusting; like the voice actress swallowed a grapefruit, or something. Couldn't they just find a voice actress with soothing, musical voice? It would make this end cutscene epic beyond imagining.
nikolanx51 5 months ago
@nikolanx51
It's supposed to be alien...
Alignn 2 months ago
@Alignn Yes. I understand it's supposed to be alien. I'm not an impartial person, and I often think of how it would be if we were to begin having interactions with some extraterrestrial entities. I know that something we humans would consider beautiful might be considered ugly by other standards. That does not mean I must like that alien opinion. Same goes for the Planet Voice. To me, it is disgusting. Plain and simple. But that does NOT mean I do not respect it in it's some other way.
nikolanx51 2 months ago
@nikolanx51
Alright.
Alignn 2 months ago
I'd like to know who came up with the ascent to transcendence line. Don't know many things that make my eyes water like this 1 does.
npatrcevic 5 months ago
Ever notice that nebula at the end is the same one as in the intro movie?
TMorrowAZ 6 months ago in playlist Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri and Alien Crossfire
@TMorrowAZ
"... and our thoughts turn again to the beginning."
Jensaw101 6 months ago
@Jensaw101 Precisely.
TMorrowAZ 5 months ago
Best quote in the game. So beautiful. The ultimate goal of understanding.
McSqueaky 6 months ago in playlist Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri and Alien Crossfire
Im not native to english but I dont really understand this... higher existance? like better life? different life? :D
MidasRK 6 months ago
@MidasRK some kind of vague sci fi concept of leaving our bodies into a superior noncorpereal form. basically become ghosts
TheKatamariguy 5 months ago
@TheKatamariguy haha ok =P
MidasRK 5 months ago
@TheKatamariguy ascension?!?
woodwyrm 2 months ago
how do u transcend into a higher plane of existence to get this
SFXKID210 6 months ago
It always made me angry that the novelizations didn't use this ending.
KensanOni 7 months ago
@KensanOni Yeah, in the novel, Humanity was screwed. I wonder which one is canon, the novel or the game?
doane1981 2 weeks ago
Like in Neon Genesis Evangelion.
SpookyNooky 7 months ago
@SpookyNooky i think it's more like in "2001 a space odyssey"
unfetteredfreak 7 months ago
@SpookyNooky I think so
danlinkgan 7 months ago
basically energy beings
you have transcended the 4 current dimensions and moved in to the higher ones
am i rite
duchashes 7 months ago
Make a sequel!!!!!
viraticwars 7 months ago
and soooo we know: God is a human!
MiamiTouri 9 months ago
@MiamiTouri God WAS human. ;P
TheCreatorOf4 7 months ago
I wonder...
If humanity ascends, what happens to the Progenitors? Likewise, what becomes of mankind if the Usurpers ascend? Will the losing species be driven from the planet or become a part of the greater mind?
HatKeinenNamen 9 months ago
@HatKeinenNamen
Well I would think that the Caretakers would ultimately declare their mission a failure and catch the 8:15 back to Progenitor land. The Usurpers would either fight to the death trying to destroy the ascension temple or, like the Caretakers, skip planet and try to find another of the Manifold worlds to ascend in. If the Usurpers ascended, HO BOY! Humanity would be in deep shit. They'd either be cleansed by design or in an ensuing conflict, or enslaved by the power hungry Usurpers.
RobbyL9 8 months ago
How is this a good thing? I thought this was joining Planet...like being assimilated.
admiralzzyx 11 months ago
@admiralzzyx not really, you merely learn how to exist without a 'physical form', your individuality i'd assume is very hard to remove^^
woodwyrm 11 months ago
a game full of science and philosophy. love it!
SpookyStillAlive 11 months ago
This one still brings shivers down my spine and a tear in my eye. I can play SMAC ever and ever again like it were the first time. It's not the gameplay, it's the citations and visionary imagination that make the game my favorite. Thank you Sid Meyer and his team for this wonderful creation. Where have these days gone?
npatrcevic 1 year ago 9
@npatrcevic
Same here. every time i play it i'm simply amazed how deep this game is.
xjsdgfhf 9 months ago
@npatrcevic
They've gone casual, I guess. Very sad!
MogManDog 9 months ago
@npatrcevic
they have been replaced with crapy game which have no story :(
well there is a story but it is basicly like this : heres a gun, kill, kill, kill....You Win!
RedFoxLord 2 weeks ago
suddenly...MINDWORMS
fucktardickis 1 year ago
I remember when I last got this victory, I was playing on Tough difficulty and only me, the spartans (who were alllies) and Yang left (who was being a right utter moron). I built voice of planet, then when that was built we all started building this wonder and while I was building it, Yang launched 3 planet busters on the city I was building it in. I stopped 2 of them using satallites but coundn't stop the 3rd. However I got it built in another base and so i still won.
Rider339 1 year ago
Awsome :o
mewnadja 1 year ago
Im kind of starting to like these wonders, and vids, more and more then the ordinary Civ wonders and movies. The Civ 2 are classics, but then its just becomes same old thing with some minore alterations in Civ 3 and on.
PantsuGirl 1 year ago 8
I havent read the michael ely novels yet, they're on my list tho. Have you rread A. Ahad's First Ark to Alpha Centauri? I recommend them ver much!!
citygurl2009 1 year ago
awesome!
alicia20009 1 year ago
I like to think that those seven humans around the sphere are the seven faction leaders - The humanity, in order to transcend, would first overcome their differences and utilize the best of each faction's ideologies.
goianiadweller 1 year ago
Whenever I see this, it always makes me think of the Human Instrumentality Project in Neon Genesis Evangelion. Only not depressing.
jasezer 1 year ago
@jasezer Every time I see this I'm reminded of Eureka 7, except without the whiny kid.
Valkyriefury 1 year ago
so what happens to the colonised planet after that?
moksheebs 1 year ago
"The Age of Man is over/ The Darkness comes and all..."
30 Seconds to Mars, Kings and Queens, This is War (2009)
moksheebs 1 year ago
Wanna read the books, or what ever they are, that the qoute from in the secret project movies.
Planet: A Survivalist's Guide
Our Secret War
We Must Dissent
The Collected Poems
The Council of War
Conversations with Planet
PantsuGirl 1 year ago 3
@PantsuGirl and Sheng-ji Yang's "Essays on Mind and Matter".
rbellev 1 year ago
@rbellev That one to, i mentioned just a few of them.
PantsuGirl 1 year ago
@PantsuGirl Personally, i want to read The Cat in The Vat =p (One of the books your faction leader might have written at the end of the game, depending on how well you do)
DrKhallos 1 year ago
@DrKhallos I wanna read them all
PantsuGirl 1 year ago
I play precisely 2 games that are more than 10 years old - this one and Imperialism I. A thing of genius, it was.
goatshredder 1 year ago
i just started playing Alpha Centauri again (cant find my Alien Crossfire disc though sadly). definitely one of the best games ive ever played. i wish theyd make a new 1. i just won (for the first time since i started playing again) via transcendence with the University Of The Planet. such a fun game
21Kyzix12 1 year ago
My "victory" was to destroy every piece of fungus with singularity hover formers set to automate remove fungus.
Ratama 1 year ago 3
@Ratama I tried that with no success. Doesn't Planet just create more fungus? (and hoards of worms?)
justicetrooper 1 year ago
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We Must Dissent
Ratama 1 year ago
We Must Dissent
Ratama 1 year ago 2
dont get it,so they leave their bodies and become binary numbers inside a computer?
HABRADASHR 2 years ago
They become energy beings and become one with the planet and spread out to continue on other worlds.
yamiblade 2 years ago
No, they are a Energy Life form, Living without a body but with a consciousness. They are immortal.
kite781 1 year ago 2
I wanted to go for this victory on my first game. A nice, peaceful, quiet playthrough.
BUT NO. DIERDRE SUDDENLY DECIDES TO BE A TOTAL BITCH AND THEN *BAM* MINDWORMS UP THE ASS FOR NO REASON.
WELL TO HELL WITH YOU ALL, PLANETBUSTERS EVERYWHERE.
LandHawkJr 2 years ago 22
@LandHawkJr
hehe. Ive just been trying out Morgan for a few days using a builder / economic strategy.
People declaring war and landing near me was funny, I probed all their units and cities using my exponential wealth.
bhavvv 1 year ago
The only factions that Morgan cant outprobe are the Believers and Data angels, but he is the only one that can run fundamentalism and still make discoveries every 5 turns.
bhavvv 1 year ago
@LandHawkJr thats y u nvr put a tree huggin hippie in power.
ArcticWolf125 3 months ago
this will happen
VIA SCIENCE!
and then the other transcended races will be all "who the fuck are these guys" and shove their nonexistient star-energy mathematical incomprehensible boots up our nonexistient star energy mathematical incomprehensible asses.
RabidWaffles 2 years ago 12
What are all the secret projects after this????? In the game editor I can watch all the projects in the game, but it goes on to list like 40 transcendece projects...maybe its just theoretical like showing that humans still go on after game ends.
Kirbywasfun 2 years ago
Ascent to Transcendence is a game-winning Secret Project. Once it has been built, the game ends in the builder's victory.
Elessar267 2 years ago
@Elessar267 You can continue playing though. After you complete ATT you are no longer attacked by mindworms and fungus. Good times!
Ba4oKolio 1 year ago
Wtf do I see on comments page, Sister Miriam Godwinson trying to probe Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang xD
HawkTheChosenOne 2 years ago 4
LMAO! you are so right.
Kirbywasfun 2 years ago
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what does this have to do with the game ?even thogh it would be an awsome feature on the game.God Bless
alex89843 2 years ago
One of the many possible goals in Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri is to transcend into a higher plane of existence, and once you achieve that goal you see this video.
matsku84 2 years ago 14
@alex89843
*headdesk*
Kemonokami 1 year ago
@alex89843
You win alex, you win.
Hasek10 10 months ago
@Hasek10 lol thanks man :)
alex89843 10 months ago
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This will happen someday ladies and gentlemen, When Jesus returns to the Earth. We will transend and cast away our mortal bodies and become immortal beings and We will dance in and out of limitless billions of years. Someday this will be the beautiful ending to our story.
Nightshift10000 2 years ago
shut up not everyone is religous
jinglesassy1 2 years ago 6
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Oh whatever, I have the right to speak My fucking Mind.
Nightshift10000 2 years ago
dont try to spread your religion we dont want it. i am one of the people who dont belive in god or anything so leave us alone.
jinglesassy1 2 years ago
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And just like I said before I have the right to speak My Fucking MInd!
Nightshift10000 2 years ago
dont try to shove your beliefs down our throats you can speak but dont try to force us to believe that what ever your religion is is the right one or your beliefs
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Arkaniad 2 years ago
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I never tried to force My beliefs on you or anyone else, I was just speaking My Mind so stop being an asshole and let Me say what I'm gonna say.
Nightshift10000 2 years ago
sure sounds like you are trying to force it.
jinglesassy1 2 years ago 2
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I wasn't trying to force anything on you, but you sure as hell are trying to force your disbelief on Me.
Nightshift10000 2 years ago
ok so it sounded to me like you were trying to force it down me so lets just leave it here before we start a war lol
jinglesassy1 2 years ago
it isn't your mind, it is just your belief. I am sure you were born in a christian crowd, if you were born in Iran you would be a Muslim, in Japan you would be Budist. So, this isn't "mind"; mind thinks, you don't think, you just believe in a tale that has been told you since you were a baby
yedininkarekoku 2 years ago
Whether it is or isn't is irrelovent, I believe in it and I have a right to believe in it and say that it is real. It is Me thinking and expressing what is on My mind. You cannot stop Me from Speaking My Mind on here and neither can anyone else.
Nightshift10000 2 years ago 2
Damn skippy! Speak your mind and don't let others suppress you!
Axelgear2006 2 years ago
Thank You and I will.
Nightshift10000 2 years ago
@yedininka japanese aren't buddhists, most of them aren't religious at all, and most japanese people do not identify as exclusively belonging to just one religion, most of them celebrate Christmas, it's called religious syncretism, and Buddhism, especially Zen which is the japanese varition doesn't consider itself a religion, just a philosophy, like being an existentialist or a neoplatonist or even the philosophy behind metal. You can't believe in philosophy, cause it's based on logic.
arturopablo 2 years ago
All philosophies are based on internal logic from acceptance of certain truths. Buddhism, for example, requires your belief that desire is the inducer of pain and suffering. Naturally, many disagree, arguing that desires can ultimately end pain and suffering. This is a difference of opinion which can be argued on a logical basis but ultimately comes down to individual beliefs.
Axelgear2006 2 years ago
@Nightshift10000 I agree man
alex89843 1 year ago
perfect ending to a perfect game
OrbGoblin 2 years ago 37
agreed lol.
oliridon 2 years ago 2
Amen to that, someday it will be the beautiful ending to our story.
Nightshift10000 2 years ago
i dont get it?wtf happens?
lidltomat 2 years ago
people turn into immortal, transcendent beings that are one with the planetmind
jellogarden 2 years ago
do they like live in the "matrix"world after that?isnt that called singularity
lidltomat 2 years ago
No its not like a technological singularity. When each human soul merges with the planetmind, each individual becomes an indispensable part of the whole, but your faction is the "leader" group of souls. So basically everyone becomes immortal and can fly all over the universe and such.
jellogarden 2 years ago
why is one faction trying to prevent it from happening then?
lidltomat 2 years ago
Oh, okay, the humans generally want to achieve transcendence because
not doing so = extinction.
The aliens are divided in their view of planet, the Usurpers seek to exploit planet and force transcendence, the Caretakers want to prevent transcendence because they are against interfering with all life forms.
jellogarden 2 years ago
but humanity will still die out,since theyre just living in a world like matrix,theyre just a binary code ,right
lidltomat 2 years ago
No, transcendence isn't like the world of the matrix. It's the same world they started in, it's just the humans have become immortal and pure, one with the planetmind. They left their physical bodies behind.
jellogarden 2 years ago 4
im probably just going to install the game and see for myself
lidltomat 2 years ago 3
yea its easy to understand if you complete a game
jellogarden 2 years ago 3
Singularity is the point where technology accelerates so fast, that AI can improve themselves, as if they were human scientists.
This is about transcendance, the point where humanity stops being human, into something... different, more suited for immortal life among the stars.
tehdarkpredator 2 years ago 4
but i just dont get it,if the humans are not human,then humanity has failed to preserve itself
lidltomat 2 years ago 4
Indeed, It is not humanity, but consciousness that is preserved (as the voice-over dialogue mentions).
Arancaytar 2 years ago
no it hasnt cause its still humanity but now its part of the planet mind as well so Humanity still exists within the planet
ray0426jh 2 years ago
No they basicaly leave their bodies and become immortal beings
ray0426jh 2 years ago
Actually, transcending can also include the body, since it's an extension of your being.
DecepticonLeader 2 years ago 3
First time I saw this I turned off the computer and went to bed.
gjeldrez 2 years ago 9
It's sorta like the Human Instrumentality Project of Evangelion... In a not-so-bad way.
hanzo661 2 years ago 4
I really like how the aesthetics of humanity becomes more religious and reminiscent of the classical era as the technology becomes incomprehensibly complex and advanced. Kinda like going full circle, I guess. :p
sssssz 2 years ago 51
Reminds me of Clarke's Third Law.
cecasander 2 years ago 2
@sssssz "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke
ministeroftuba 1 year ago
@sssssz And incredibly ironic
speedball2345 1 year ago
@sssssz I completely agree!
kristicuk 1 year ago
@sssssz yeah, but this time we didn't create the gods; we became them (:
insideous57 1 year ago
Just build lots of those supply rover things throughout the game then when you can build this project use them to rush it.
redplague 3 years ago
I played and finished the game with all factions and the Gaians are my favourite, I dunno why but they fascinate me somehow :)
I kept plaing with them over and over again, probably the Voice of Planet was luring me subliminaly xD
HawkTheChosenOne 3 years ago 3
they're also debatably the more powerful faction since they have no ecological damage problems and in Alien Crossifre, they're extract tons of resources from the red fungus.
Xenodamus 3 years ago 3
What kind of cult planet is this?
Sonyoooo3 3 years ago
I understand not this project. The planet slowly becomes infested with xenofungus?
jkrdsr 3 years ago
Well, I've never played this game. But Ascending is a common theme in Sci-fi, it usually involves a civilizations reaching a point where they don't need physical bodies and turn into energy beings. Usually, this means they turn god-like and leave the Universe.
That's what I am guessing is happening here.
RojOdio 3 years ago 7
the concept is that the fungus on Planet acts as a brain, with the fungus tubules acting as neurons, etc. So this "mind" becomes hostile, humanity uploads all of its knowledge into the 'planetmind' to help it understand humanity, (the voice of planet secret project', and afterwards anyone who wishes can upload their mind into the fungus brain. The Ascent to Transcendence enusres that the leader you play as has the dominant mind.
Jack8the8Ripper 3 years ago 15
If you watch the "Voice of Planet" video, Zakharov is talking about using the Datalinks as a weapon against the Planetmind. "Voice of Planet" was an attempt to overwhelm and destroy the Planetmind, but after that failed, the Planetmind had merged with the information on the Datalinks, and it was then possible for a leader to commence the Ascent to Transcendence.
Falkon4860 3 years ago
I think the Voice of Planet was actually meant the persuade the Planetmind not to destroy mankind, as it would be such a loss in knowledge and culture and such...
cecasander 2 years ago 5
I don't think it was an attempt to destroy the Planetmind. Judging from the storyline interludes, combined with that video, the Voice of Planet project was an attempt to convince the Planetmind that humanity was rich, diverse, and deserved to live. Also, it was to give it the information boost it needed to finally break the growth/collapse cycle it had been in for eons (which threatened humanity on Planet), and achieve true, stable consciousness.
TarrVetus 2 years ago 12
But in the ending of another faction getting the Trancendence done sugests that humanity merges with the Planetmind.
MetalSlimeHunt 2 years ago 3
Basically, the info blast in planetmind was a last ditch effort to ensure survival for humanity. After all, how elso could they contend with an entire sentient ecosystem? They used the info burst to try and at least overload the mind so that it either was destroyed, meaning fungus would be like normal plants from earth, or that the planetmind would become fully sentient, meaning it could be reasoned with.
JamaiusYan 2 years ago 4
basically the grow cycle cannot be stopped, but by merging humanity with the planetmind they managed to keep some part of humanity alive, according to the GURPS supplement says it best.
"Humanity still exists but as part of the greater planetmind, extensions of consciousness that can travel far from Planet. Transhumans even went to earth to rebuild civilization there."
Gruegirl 2 years ago
As for the winning faction becoming the "dominant mind", there's really no proof for that. Transcended humans would all be part of a group consciousness (no competition) and there would also be no physical needs or scarcity of any kind (as far as I can tell) so there would be no dominant mind or dominance of any kind.
If you want to dominate, just go for the "Supreme Leader" victory ;)
Falkon4860 3 years ago
during the interludes (storyline) in the game the planet mind and scientists both urge you to complete the ascent where you will be the dominant mind. interludes pop up occasionally during encounters with mind worms, when there's violent fungus growth, and for some specific base facilities and secret projects
Jack8the8Ripper 3 years ago
Ok, thanks for pointing out that evidence. I've played the game a lot but never read the interludes for Transcendence.
Falkon4860 3 years ago
where do you guys get this info from. it sounds so damn logical,
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Yes, people are truly conscious and working restlessly and without peace, my job is to be clear in my relations to those who are biblical and modern, so fanatics, make a number for the direct line to the same extent of 9/11.
transcended11 3 years ago
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Yes, people are truly conscious and working restlessly and without peace, my job is to be clear in my relations to those who are biblical and modern, so fanatics, make a number for the direct line to the same extention connected as 911.
transcended11 3 years ago
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Ok, so here is an example of the opposite of the polarities that people (with badges) use to describe the anti christ. Instead of a mad scientist(s) or a political or even technological madmen, who are clear on their intentions, here is an example of a spiritual end, created by the very fabrics that is said is going to , "save" the world...
transcended11 3 years ago
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Some people need to look up evoloution again. It's not Pokemon people, there aren't any levels to it.
Transcense seems a little...flawed. You sacrifice all of humanity to create...what exactly? A new glowy ball with a bad case of multiple personality disorder and the IQ of 10000000? A hive mind with one mother brain at the center-lonely job herding a bunch of vegetables all day.
Ironic that the strongest evouloutinary advantage has been teamwork of indiviguals...
Judex777 3 years ago
I wish they had made an ending where you kill the "Planet".
Herkkis 3 years ago 24
@Herkkis lol that would've been cool.
itsmeJTke 1 year ago
@Herkkis You can't kill Planet. You can however, lose due to wormrape regardless of your econ score. Want a challange? Throw some busters around, let the water fill the whole world due to global warming. Enjoy no resources, hunger, energy shortages and thousands of wormboils coming from everywhere.
Ba4oKolio 1 year ago
Well its technological singularity in some way: the humanity make itself evolve
welap 3 years ago
Wasn't this a partial victory for all humans?
speedball2345 3 years ago
Everyone would ascend to the new state of being, but only a few would be the ones in control, the moderators of all souls. So you could take any you didn't like, and eliminate them from existence.
Curious2Dream 3 years ago
I personally didn't like this concept of transcendence. To me individuality is the highest goal of any sentient being and it's something to defend to the last, even if the benefits of giving it up are practically god like power.
I know that an individual could separate them selves from the whole, but even so I'd rather stay with the mundane humans that didn't join.
animerox1341 3 years ago 3
They don't give up individuality, but rather become an undispensible part of the greater group.
FrostPegasus 3 years ago 10
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Masterthinktank 3 years ago
You didn't consider that maybe we already are a part of the whole, but just don't know it, and the realization of that is transcendency
DoctorFist 3 years ago 4
1999
matsku84 4 years ago
hey my comment wasn't added
aeonbrit 4 years ago
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matsku84 4 years ago
Can you please post the video for what happens if someone else transcends?
Kouban 4 years ago