I think you would help people more if you told them it requires a different thought process. Mind is movement, not the body. The body is a symptom of activity in the mind. The difference is altering mental activity, not focusing on changing the physical body. All the physical body does is tell you whether or not there is an issue in your thinking. You need to address the thinking is you want to change the body, and hence your results.
Also, have strong core muscles does helping pitching, so steroids do help pitchers get better by strengthening muscle. What they don't help with is arm strength, like so many believe.
Actually the strengthening of the core is probably what helps hitters the most too.
Can you define the 'core' and give a brief description of how one can use their core during their pitching motion? Can you also explain how to strengthen the core so it has carryover for pitchers?
people are so ignorant saying roid dont make you stronger...............i use steroids you dont have to lift a weight and theyll make you jacked............testosterone enth......dbol and anavar so you no im not lying
@jaydeenyc3333333 Dude, either you are a liar, or you don't know what you're talking about. Steroids will not get you "jacked" if you don't lift supplement them with hard strength training. if you take 'roids' and sit on the couch all day, steroids won't help you much!
"Anabolic steroids are drugs that resemble the chemical structure of the body's natural sex hormone testosterone, which is made naturally by the body. Testosterone directs the body to produce or enhance male characteristics such as increased muscle mass, "
to people who disagree, do your homework dumbasses
To all the people defending the use of steroids, saying that it doesn't really help you, blah blah blah...
If using steroids DOESN'T HELP you AND it's illegal, who would be dumb enough to use it? Clearly, it gives you an unfair advantage. Otherwise, why would anyone want to do something illegal, and risk getting caught? It's just a stupid argument.
they need to give this guy a break on the whole steriods thing i dont think lying about steriods is the most illegal thing he's done didnt he sleep with that country singer when she was like 13?
well steroids can make you more powerful if you do the exercise to go with it. look at danny almonte the little league world series cheater. he hit puberty (more testosterone) cause he was actually 14. that made him much stronger than the 12 year olds he was facing. anyways it helps recover and it makes you more powerful.
Steroids long term in the arm would actually hamper the pitcher over time. It's like others have posted...steroids in a pitcher's legs will actually help increase velocity because just as much comes from "pushing off" as does from the arm. Regardless...considering the batters he was facing were juiced I still respect Clemens accomplishments. In a way, the fans made the players juice...attendance was dropping off greatly before a couple of "sluggers" came along and "saved the game"...
@Shpati20 No it doesn't. Choji Murata was known for throwing a very good forkball his whole life and at 55+ years old he can still throw 87 mph. American pitchers just don't have the proper mechanics to throw a good forkball. It's a common pitch in Japan.
OK READ THIS BECUASE ALL OF YOU SEEM TO KNOW NOTHING
roger clemens injected steroids into his legs to make the mucles stronger( yes steroids make yuor mucles bigger without working out and even bigger if u work out) But he did this to make his legs bigger so he could trow harder and it would only stay in his legs
@OneAndAHalfStar ur dumb it increases your hormone so when you work out you get muscle faster it doesnt just automatically give you muscle you fucking dumb ass
El Duque's slider froze Ichiro every time. He had a 139 average against him.BTW, Roger has not tested positive for steroids, Bonds has. Go prosecute Palmeiro FEDS, he not only waved his finger denying it, he tested positive after he hit 3,000 hits.
Japanese pitchers are the best anyway mechanics-wise. Apart from Lincecum and Oswalt, American pitchers just pitch with their arm instead of using the whole body.
Hideo Nomo, Yuu Darvish, Fujikawa Kyuji, these pitchers' mechanics are just flawless
i hate it when scientists say that the break on a pitch is just an illusion. there crazy!! u could see in slomo there is break on curveballs and other pitches when it is thrown properly
@MattSolo782, it's been proven that a ball can actually change its direction on the way to the plate. What is an illusion is the notion of a "rising" pitch.
Even BEFORE the steroid thing came out I hated Roger... beaning Piazza, and then THROWING THE BARREL OF THE BAT AT HIM in the 2000 World Series... that's just disgraceful, regardless of WHO you are.
Are you a fucking retard. First of all check your comment you cant spell too well. Secondly, errrr yes they do. Steriods help you become bigger and the bigger you are the harder you throw.
Bullshit, this isnt weight lifting or football. Abuff arm, shoulder, or back would reduce velocity dramatically. Plus its impossible to have any flexibility. How about you review your facts before telling the world your an asshole, friend.
Ok take a look at Jonathan Broxton who is one of the fastest pitchers in the game. He is 294 lbs and 6ft4, hes been clocked at 101 mph. At the end of the day he took steriods. Face it.
Your wrong, You gave one example of a big guy who can throw fast. What about Verlander? he has a fairly average build and he can get it up to 100. Tim Hudson? Pedro?
@SimpleStuff31 -- But don't forget arm length, which does two things: act like a lever to get greater velocity and raises the release point (as if the pitching mound were higher).
@soadpwnsyou steroids dont make your muscles grow haha.. they give you energy to be in the gym longer and then thats how you get a bigger A LOT faster
@SimpleStuff31 steroids do make you bigger when you take them you build muscle quicker than if you do not anabolic means muscle building its quite simple they also give the muscle more stamina but they also make them bigger
@SimpleStuff31 sorry i have to comment this but there are steriods for every thing muslce mass eye sight internal organs,the mlb players us hgh because it makes u feel better gives u more energy and endurace and power, its illegal for a reason
so true, everyone who rips on him is retarded for thinking his 20-strikeout games and 354 wins came from steroids. not to mention the composure and insane dedication it takes to pitch in mlb.
@BananaPriest thats not all steroids do they allow you to excercise and work out longer thats why power hitters take them so they have energy to hit everyball without losing much stamina or body function
yeah, but by recovering you faster, they also help you work out longer and more often (as you "recover" from working out). therefore you build muscle faster. therefore you have more muscle. therefore many people throw faster and better as a result of steroids. i'm your host cmillsox, and this has been dipshit lessons.
@samuraijackson@SimpleStuff31 steroids do make you bigger when you take them you build muscle quicker than if you do not anabolic means muscle building its quite simple they also give the muscle more stamina but they also make them bigger
@samuraijackson No, of course they don't. That's why a guy that threw his fastball 93-95 his whole career was suddenly throwing 99-100 AFTER he turned 35.
@samuraijackson it does help with velocity, since your legs,abs, and all the other muscles you need to be a strong pitcher are being healed faster you are constantly getting stronger at a fast pace resulting in a stronger windeup and stronger push from the rubber, stronger core as well, you are right but you are wrong by saying it dosnt help with velocity.
@samuraijackson ...which means you can work out again sooner and harder, making you throw harder. So yes they do. Educate yourself before you talk shit to people. You're wrong, and it's even funnier because you called him a dumbass. Dumbass.
Education comes from the latin 'educo' meaning "To develop or draw out from within." Education isn't necessary a reflection of how much knowledge one has acquired. Anyways, its ridiculous to refer to one as a learned individual since ignorance is not knowing. People just don't know some things, hence everybody is ignorant. There is no such thing as a learned individual. You're either learning or your not. In times of change the learners will inherit the earth whereas the learned
will find themselves beautifully equipped for a world that no longer exists.
Moreover, just because one works out doesn't mean they will throw harder. This is a common misunderstanding that is caused by a lack of knowledge regarding movement. Mind is movement, body is the manifestation of that movement. Its how you think about the training that dictates and how you train. This dictates your results. More training is not necessarily optimal.
Muscle growth doesn't occur during training. It occurs after training. Moreover, you can workout 4-5 days a week and still play a season of baseball without much fatigue. However, most guys choose to workout with weights ~3 days per week. Moreover, most weight lifting applicable to pitchers is regarding dynamic/static flexibility, reactive strength, speed strength, and shoulder/elbow recovery (ex: light dumbbell routines).
Moreover, its foolish to tell somebody they are wrong.
Neither of us are right, and neither of us wrong. That's because there is a better way that neither of us have discovered. Since there is a better way its foolish to suggest you could be right. And the law of opposites dictates there can't be a wrong without a right. Since no right exists there cannot possibly be a wrong.
That's exactly how I throw mine, it actually works pretty well. When batters have never seen you before and they're expecting a 4 seam, this can really catch them off guard. Also, it doesn't put much more stress on your arm than a normal fastball does.
fastballs dont put any stress on your arm u mustve had a typeo. i throw mine the same way. i struck out 5 people with it ( the other three were by 2 seamer and kknucklecurve ).
even though all the accusations and steriod hgh stuff... he is still my favorite of all time... i do think he might have taken them because his career was sloping, but that doesnt take away the fact that he was one of the greatest to ever play. Nolan ( the express) Roger ( the rocket) and Randy ( the unit) are in my opinion the greatest ever. with the addition of maddux
Yeah that's the thing..the steroid stuff..they should just leave it alone. They've came up with all these rules that it's not really even a fun thing to watch anymore, for any sport. Everyone who is damn good, they "have" to be taking steroids (sarcasm), it's just stupid.
He has a really bad shoulder that has been giving him trouble since mid-1999. He's much smaller than most power pitchers. We'll see if Tim Lincecum has similar problems as he gets older.
I'm so sick of people saying that "Clemens did steriods because he's old and still throws 95". Well think of it this way, if Clemens did do do steriods, because he's old and still throws 95 than you can say the same about another players who are old and still threw 95. The other players names include Nolan Ryan, Curt Schillg, Randy Johnson,and Greg Maddux.
Johnson has thrown low 90's (88-93) over the past few years and he's not as old or as built as clemens. With johnson his size gives him a boost of speed (remember he's 6'10") and that's why he throws fast.
what you people fail to realize is, that even if he did use steroids, he still has to control the pitches. You think just because he can throw harder that he automatically becomes a good pitcher? I think not.
All my point is, is that you would still have to control the pitches. It doesnt really matter how hard you can throw if you can't consistently hit the mitt. Half of these pitchers today can't even control their fastball. Lefty Grove, for example, could hit the mitt everytime with his fastball and curveball and later forkball for the matter, but anyway, do you think he cared that he didnt have 5 pitches to chose from? Being able to control them is what made him great.
pitching has nothing to do with strength. it is all about momentum. when you start your wind up you are creating energy from you legs to your arm and your body whips it around. Squating 600 lbs does not mean your are going to throw 100 mph. steroids does not help a pitcher pitch faster and weight training either. look at tim lincecum or other skinny pitchers and you will see that pitching has nothing to do with strength.
pitching has a LOT to do with strength. sure there are skinny pitchers that can whip the ball but as you said it comes from creating energy and the more weight and strength you have, the more potential energy you have to throw the ball faster. 100 mph comes with a combination of strength, mechanics and talent. But to boldly say pitching has nothing to do with strength is false.
Pitching has very little to do with your overall strength. Yes there is some degree of strength involved but, it is 80 to 90 percent relying on the place of your arm and the whip of your arm. The faster the whip of your arm the faster the ball will go.
The only place that strength might play a role in pitching is your leg strength.
Sandy Kofaux is a perfect example of using all of his leg power to throw the ball.
Ints not congres's fault Bush fuked it for us for the next 10 years, during his reign he has spent over 5-6 Trillion dollars on the war his stupid trips to affrica etc... so if youre about to have some kids or taking the next step in your life you have to save up for it. which is tottally fucked up. when he took over the Us national debt was 5trillion now it has doubled and going higher.
Hella wrist pronation
andros1984 3 months ago
steroids!!!
dimeabe5 4 months ago
Mr. Snappy was the best slider ever thrown. The big unit didnt need steroids either, to throw past 95
Zaku493 5 months ago
@Zaku493
not everybody is blessed to be 6'11"
helmut4lyfe 5 months ago
no one will probably belive me but im 13 and i play ihtrow a slider that drops 5 inches and curves about seven
planblover1 5 months ago
@planblover1 umm thats called a slurve dipsh*t, and thats not that hard to believe i throw a 12-6 that drops a foot
CoBeX31 5 months ago
Maaaaa
TheTmtdude 5 months ago
actually his true slider is steriods
Lbaldwin1000 6 months ago 8
@Lbaldwin1000 i snorted heh heh
Kempatsu 3 weeks ago
Slider 86-92 Mph
Pokerstarsvevo 7 months ago
@noodles356 Try putting more pressure on your middle finger.
And make sure you have a medium stiff wrist and don't crank on your arm too much.
It'll come, experiment with finger pressure and make sure you're getting clean release.
ajlepisto 7 months ago
i thought thats how u throw a curve with the same finger placement of wat he showed
7439tjm 8 months ago
@7439tjm It is but the slider has a different wrist position than the curve.
MattMosca17 8 months ago
@MattMosca17
I think you would help people more if you told them it requires a different thought process. Mind is movement, not the body. The body is a symptom of activity in the mind. The difference is altering mental activity, not focusing on changing the physical body. All the physical body does is tell you whether or not there is an issue in your thinking. You need to address the thinking is you want to change the body, and hence your results.
SadegoGG 7 months ago
Also, have strong core muscles does helping pitching, so steroids do help pitchers get better by strengthening muscle. What they don't help with is arm strength, like so many believe.
Actually the strengthening of the core is probably what helps hitters the most too.
unlvrebelx 8 months ago
@unlvrebelx
Can you define the 'core' and give a brief description of how one can use their core during their pitching motion? Can you also explain how to strengthen the core so it has carryover for pitchers?
Thanks.
SadegoGG 7 months ago
Who cares if he took steroids he is still one of the greatest baseball players....
beastfromdowneast 8 months ago
theres a reason steroids are illegal in sports so get clemens dick out of your mouth start using your noodle
jaydeenyc3333333 8 months ago
people are so ignorant saying roid dont make you stronger...............i use steroids you dont have to lift a weight and theyll make you jacked............testosterone enth......dbol and anavar so you no im not lying
jaydeenyc3333333 8 months ago
@jaydeenyc3333333 lol
Baseballplayinty 8 months ago
@jaydeenyc3333333 Dude, either you are a liar, or you don't know what you're talking about. Steroids will not get you "jacked" if you don't lift supplement them with hard strength training. if you take 'roids' and sit on the couch all day, steroids won't help you much!
publicatdamagnificen 3 months ago
@noodles356 you want nice tight spin and you need to split the ball in half on release. grip is secondary and a good follow through always helps
walterroland1 9 months ago
They should do an episode on a gyroball.
Klabberlask 9 months ago 2
@Klabberlask The Red Sox won't let them because they don't want people to realize it's not much of anything :P
ajlepisto 7 months ago
Where can I find the entire episode?
whatthafahk 9 months ago
"Anabolic steroids are drugs that resemble the chemical structure of the body's natural sex hormone testosterone, which is made naturally by the body. Testosterone directs the body to produce or enhance male characteristics such as increased muscle mass, "
to people who disagree, do your homework dumbasses
litojonny 10 months ago
To all the people defending the use of steroids, saying that it doesn't really help you, blah blah blah...
If using steroids DOESN'T HELP you AND it's illegal, who would be dumb enough to use it? Clearly, it gives you an unfair advantage. Otherwise, why would anyone want to do something illegal, and risk getting caught? It's just a stupid argument.
sbkang85 10 months ago
LOL poor catcher he's probably scared to death
smexykyle 11 months ago
they need to give this guy a break on the whole steriods thing i dont think lying about steriods is the most illegal thing he's done didnt he sleep with that country singer when she was like 13?
JoshHolmesRHP 1 year ago
well steroids can make you more powerful if you do the exercise to go with it. look at danny almonte the little league world series cheater. he hit puberty (more testosterone) cause he was actually 14. that made him much stronger than the 12 year olds he was facing. anyways it helps recover and it makes you more powerful.
beniceokay 1 year ago
Magglio Ordonez smacked that thing right out of Comerica haha.
sktm06 1 year ago
I wish rog would demonstrate all pitches like this
Raymster17 1 year ago
One of the best pitchers ever..Throwing a good fork ball splitter takes long fingers .
gsr114 1 year ago
Steroids long term in the arm would actually hamper the pitcher over time. It's like others have posted...steroids in a pitcher's legs will actually help increase velocity because just as much comes from "pushing off" as does from the arm. Regardless...considering the batters he was facing were juiced I still respect Clemens accomplishments. In a way, the fans made the players juice...attendance was dropping off greatly before a couple of "sluggers" came along and "saved the game"...
possumverde 1 year ago
steroids just helped clemens last longer. throwing forkballs usually ends careers earlier.
Shpati20 1 year ago
@Shpati20 No it doesn't. Choji Murata was known for throwing a very good forkball his whole life and at 55+ years old he can still throw 87 mph. American pitchers just don't have the proper mechanics to throw a good forkball. It's a common pitch in Japan.
homosexugay 1 year ago
OK READ THIS BECUASE ALL OF YOU SEEM TO KNOW NOTHING
roger clemens injected steroids into his legs to make the mucles stronger( yes steroids make yuor mucles bigger without working out and even bigger if u work out) But he did this to make his legs bigger so he could trow harder and it would only stay in his legs
OneAndAHalfStar 1 year ago
@OneAndAHalfStar ur dumb it increases your hormone so when you work out you get muscle faster it doesnt just automatically give you muscle you fucking dumb ass
FunnyStuff1234123 1 year ago
@OneAndAHalfStar ...nice to see you added your name to the list of those who know nothing, better to keep your mouth shut
JimSpoor 1 year ago
search 'david melkonian'
waynejohnson32 1 year ago
Carbs and protein make you recover. Anabolic steroids kinda activate the protein to grow muscle. Steroids + protein = muscle growth.
PainDealer86 1 year ago
@PainDealer86 actually, steroids increase your testosterone levels. they dont.. "activate the protein" dumbass
zg2233 3 months ago
El Duque's slider froze Ichiro every time. He had a 139 average against him.BTW, Roger has not tested positive for steroids, Bonds has. Go prosecute Palmeiro FEDS, he not only waved his finger denying it, he tested positive after he hit 3,000 hits.
Leonnidik 1 year ago
they do help your throw faster dumbasses
Venge1348 1 year ago
0:06-0:10 ---- gyroball?????!!!!
vasDcrak 1 year ago
Omg what episone is that??
paintbasstard 1 year ago
randy johnson had the sickest slider ever in his prime.
Christopherwilder47 1 year ago
Japanese pitchers are the best anyway mechanics-wise. Apart from Lincecum and Oswalt, American pitchers just pitch with their arm instead of using the whole body.
Hideo Nomo, Yuu Darvish, Fujikawa Kyuji, these pitchers' mechanics are just flawless
homosexugay 1 year ago
BUM!!!!!
schaumton 1 year ago
i hate it when scientists say that the break on a pitch is just an illusion. there crazy!! u could see in slomo there is break on curveballs and other pitches when it is thrown properly
MattSolo782 1 year ago
@MattSolo782, it's been proven that a ball can actually change its direction on the way to the plate. What is an illusion is the notion of a "rising" pitch.
jdlund 1 year ago
@jdlund alright thanks for clearing that up for me
MattSolo782 1 year ago
catcher fail!
thebluebeast98 1 year ago
@thebluebeast98 yes but at the same time its a pitcher win
spriteking69 1 year ago
lol the catcher dropped it
LTandlonghornfan81 1 year ago
Dave Stieb had the best Slider!
Danlop78 1 year ago
he took steroids
mrcheese10001 1 year ago
@mrcheese10001 yea actuall he didnt you fucking faggot
connerjo44 1 year ago
How does Roger inject steroids?
MyBaldMom 1 year ago
Even BEFORE the steroid thing came out I hated Roger... beaning Piazza, and then THROWING THE BARREL OF THE BAT AT HIM in the 2000 World Series... that's just disgraceful, regardless of WHO you are.
obiwanobiwan13 1 year ago
What about Lincecum?
dolphinbuc 1 year ago
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Hooray for steroids, the...? :/
obiwanobiwan13 2 years ago
@obiwanobiwan13 Possibly, but steriods have no effect on pitching.
sh4rpsh0t33 1 year ago
Truth be told, up until the time he started to "allegedly" take steriods (1998), he was still a hell of a pitcher
thndrct218 2 years ago 13
ya. i know he took steroids, but i love roger clemensen (as a pitcher). hes one of those guys who u just gota admire even though he juiced up
RedxLightning4694 2 years ago
got steroids?
yankssux 2 years ago
fkn roid monkey
cmak5 2 years ago
wonder if clemens brought his needles to that show
tootmymagoot 2 years ago
At least he can still throw decent without help from his steriods.
1994fishcake 2 years ago
Steroids dont help you throw better of faster they just help you recover faster dumbass!!
samuraijackson 2 years ago 35
Are you a fucking retard. First of all check your comment you cant spell too well. Secondly, errrr yes they do. Steriods help you become bigger and the bigger you are the harder you throw.
1994fishcake 2 years ago
Bullshit, this isnt weight lifting or football. Abuff arm, shoulder, or back would reduce velocity dramatically. Plus its impossible to have any flexibility. How about you review your facts before telling the world your an asshole, friend.
MuscularBeaverx 2 years ago 3
Ok take a look at Jonathan Broxton who is one of the fastest pitchers in the game. He is 294 lbs and 6ft4, hes been clocked at 101 mph. At the end of the day he took steriods. Face it.
1994fishcake 2 years ago
not really lincy is tiny
thecubsguy17 2 years ago
Dude thats why they call him the freak.
1994fishcake 2 years ago
Your wrong, You gave one example of a big guy who can throw fast. What about Verlander? he has a fairly average build and he can get it up to 100. Tim Hudson? Pedro?
chipper1027 2 years ago
you forgot randy johnson who can get up to 100 and hes like 6'2
N1ckyKnukl3s 1 year ago
@N1ckyKnukl3s try 6'10 lol
chipper1027 1 year ago
@chipper1027 lol i was off yea
N1ckyKnukl3s 1 year ago
@N1ckyKnukl3s hes like 6 '' 10
JEudave13 1 year ago
no hes 6'10
f22cool 1 year ago
@N1ckyKnukl3s this guy doesnt need 10 people telling him his height!! geez
kikuras4 1 year ago
@N1ckyKnukl3s randy johnson is not 6'2 you douche GET YOUR FACTS hes 6'11
f22cool 9 months ago
he's not tiny 5, 11 is taller than the national height average
StefanD99 2 years ago
he ways 172 pounds that is tiny and 5'11 isnt that tall
thecubsguy17 2 years ago
steroids dont make u bigger they make you able to work out longer and harder
and big people usually throw slower cause the have to move more arm mass and pitch velocity comes from arm speed not power
medium size are the best pitchers
SimpleStuff31 2 years ago 27
simple stuff is a dumbshit
thecubsguy17 2 years ago
what the fuck are you talking about.
SimpleStuff31 2 years ago
@SimpleStuff31 -- But don't forget arm length, which does two things: act like a lever to get greater velocity and raises the release point (as if the pitching mound were higher).
Gondring 1 year ago
@SimpleStuff31
Umm Steroids will make your muscles bigger. Remember how Berry Bonds head grew after he took steroids. You will get bigger.
soadpwnsyou 1 year ago
@soadpwnsyou the steroids themselves don't make u bigger, it's the work u do while u use them.
SimpleStuff31 1 year ago
@SimpleStuff31 yes they doo...
cfl990 1 year ago
@soadpwnsyou steroids dont make your muscles grow haha.. they give you energy to be in the gym longer and then thats how you get a bigger A LOT faster
dozerislife 1 year ago
@dozerislife
Your an idiot. Explain how Barry Bonds head got bigger.
soadpwnsyou 1 year ago
@dozerislife nice try asshole but they absolutely make your muscles grow and much quicker its not just some energy boost asshole learn your stuff
cfl990 1 year ago
@dozerislife thats creatine dipshit. steroids themselfs make you stronger
zg2233 3 months ago
@SimpleStuff31 steroids do make you bigger when you take them you build muscle quicker than if you do not anabolic means muscle building its quite simple they also give the muscle more stamina but they also make them bigger
cfl990 1 year ago
@SimpleStuff31 yea right
mam07643 1 year ago
@mam07643 what moves faster, something small and quick, or something big and bulky?
SimpleStuff31 1 year ago
@SimpleStuff31 sorry i have to comment this but there are steriods for every thing muslce mass eye sight internal organs,the mlb players us hgh because it makes u feel better gives u more energy and endurace and power, its illegal for a reason
FALLENFOOTBALLER99 8 months ago
@SimpleStuff31 cough* R-r-andy Johnson cough*
Poopiusthewoopius 6 months ago
@Poopiusthewoopius when i said medium, i was saying mass wise, not height, johnson was very lanky, good for pitching.
SimpleStuff31 6 months ago
HA, you really don't play baseball do you?
chipper1027 2 years ago
so true, everyone who rips on him is retarded for thinking his 20-strikeout games and 354 wins came from steroids. not to mention the composure and insane dedication it takes to pitch in mlb.
MuscularBeaverx 2 years ago 2
@samuraijackson if steroids make you recover faster than why do power hitters illegally take them?
BananaPriest 1 year ago
@BananaPriest thats not all steroids do they allow you to excercise and work out longer thats why power hitters take them so they have energy to hit everyball without losing much stamina or body function
shynobixxdxx 1 year ago
@shynobixxdxx BULLCRAP! have you seen before and after pictures of barry bonds? He used to be this little skinny boy until he took steroids!
BananaPriest 1 year ago
yeah, but by recovering you faster, they also help you work out longer and more often (as you "recover" from working out). therefore you build muscle faster. therefore you have more muscle. therefore many people throw faster and better as a result of steroids. i'm your host cmillsox, and this has been dipshit lessons.
cmillsox 1 year ago
@samuraijackson also they help you work out longer hence building big leg muscles thus pitching faster
zookyzooky31 1 year ago
@samuraijackson @SimpleStuff31 steroids do make you bigger when you take them you build muscle quicker than if you do not anabolic means muscle building its quite simple they also give the muscle more stamina but they also make them bigger
cfl990 1 year ago
@samuraijackson wrong. wrong. wrong. you suck
tim191219 1 year ago
@tim191219 hes right dumbass
KingKoopaHD 1 year ago
@samuraijackson No, of course they don't. That's why a guy that threw his fastball 93-95 his whole career was suddenly throwing 99-100 AFTER he turned 35.
jbsgx24 1 year ago 10
@samuraijackson if steroids help you recover faster why are they illegal
steroids increase testosterone which increase muscle mass
dumbass
litojonny 10 months ago
@samuraijackson finally someone smart
pelotero1925 9 months ago
@samuraijackson it does help with velocity, since your legs,abs, and all the other muscles you need to be a strong pitcher are being healed faster you are constantly getting stronger at a fast pace resulting in a stronger windeup and stronger push from the rubber, stronger core as well, you are right but you are wrong by saying it dosnt help with velocity.
bustmust 9 months ago
@samuraijackson ...which means you can work out again sooner and harder, making you throw harder. So yes they do. Educate yourself before you talk shit to people. You're wrong, and it's even funnier because you called him a dumbass. Dumbass.
mprovolt91 7 months ago
@mprovolt91
Education comes from the latin 'educo' meaning "To develop or draw out from within." Education isn't necessary a reflection of how much knowledge one has acquired. Anyways, its ridiculous to refer to one as a learned individual since ignorance is not knowing. People just don't know some things, hence everybody is ignorant. There is no such thing as a learned individual. You're either learning or your not. In times of change the learners will inherit the earth whereas the learned
SadegoGG 7 months ago
@mprovolt91
will find themselves beautifully equipped for a world that no longer exists.
Moreover, just because one works out doesn't mean they will throw harder. This is a common misunderstanding that is caused by a lack of knowledge regarding movement. Mind is movement, body is the manifestation of that movement. Its how you think about the training that dictates and how you train. This dictates your results. More training is not necessarily optimal.
SadegoGG 7 months ago
@mprovolt91
Muscle growth doesn't occur during training. It occurs after training. Moreover, you can workout 4-5 days a week and still play a season of baseball without much fatigue. However, most guys choose to workout with weights ~3 days per week. Moreover, most weight lifting applicable to pitchers is regarding dynamic/static flexibility, reactive strength, speed strength, and shoulder/elbow recovery (ex: light dumbbell routines).
Moreover, its foolish to tell somebody they are wrong.
SadegoGG 7 months ago
@mprovolt91
Neither of us are right, and neither of us wrong. That's because there is a better way that neither of us have discovered. Since there is a better way its foolish to suggest you could be right. And the law of opposites dictates there can't be a wrong without a right. Since no right exists there cannot possibly be a wrong.
SadegoGG 7 months ago
i guess the catcher "misremembered" how to catch a slider
dlee4she 2 years ago
That's exactly how I throw mine, it actually works pretty well. When batters have never seen you before and they're expecting a 4 seam, this can really catch them off guard. Also, it doesn't put much more stress on your arm than a normal fastball does.
SkyBass1 2 years ago
fastballs dont put any stress on your arm u mustve had a typeo. i throw mine the same way. i struck out 5 people with it ( the other three were by 2 seamer and kknucklecurve ).
SWAGGTASTIC1231 2 years ago
Throwing in general puts stress on your arm. Your arm isn't made to throw a baseball.
kolar24 2 years ago
mine is ive been playin since i wuz 4
SWAGGTASTIC1231 2 years ago
It's an unnatural motion is all i was saying. Sure most peoples arms are ok but others like mine are jacked up. Im only 19 btw
kolar24 2 years ago
even though all the accusations and steriod hgh stuff... he is still my favorite of all time... i do think he might have taken them because his career was sloping, but that doesnt take away the fact that he was one of the greatest to ever play. Nolan ( the express) Roger ( the rocket) and Randy ( the unit) are in my opinion the greatest ever. with the addition of maddux
averylol 2 years ago 2
agree on all counts :) Hes sitll my favorite :P
Piehl 2 years ago
Yeah that's the thing..the steroid stuff..they should just leave it alone. They've came up with all these rules that it's not really even a fun thing to watch anymore, for any sport. Everyone who is damn good, they "have" to be taking steroids (sarcasm), it's just stupid.
amerikanerMarinen 2 years ago
What about Pedro?
Gerkinstock 2 years ago
umm.. he is in there, but you have to look at his consistency at an old age.. it dropped..
averylol 2 years ago
He has a really bad shoulder that has been giving him trouble since mid-1999. He's much smaller than most power pitchers. We'll see if Tim Lincecum has similar problems as he gets older.
Gerkinstock 2 years ago
tha's what's supposed to happen at an old age unless u takin Roids like ROger did
Playboyy1985 2 years ago
I just imagine Adam and Jamie having Roger help them test whether getting injected in the tush with 'roids helps your performance.
km9OOO 2 years ago
I have eattin at boomerang with him because his son was in the sunbelt classic in Oklahoma and he was on Team Texas and I was the bat boy :)
tailwhipsam 3 years ago
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ROIDS AND VIAGRA
Americangerman2 3 years ago
your a dick
tailwhipsam 3 years ago
no but Roger was using that Viagra for his dick....Were you trying to with that?
Americangerman2 3 years ago
I wanna get a copy of that '86 game with the 20 K's.
xalstarx 3 years ago 3
I'm so sick of people saying that "Clemens did steriods because he's old and still throws 95". Well think of it this way, if Clemens did do do steriods, because he's old and still throws 95 than you can say the same about another players who are old and still threw 95. The other players names include Nolan Ryan, Curt Schillg, Randy Johnson,and Greg Maddux.
renandstim 3 years ago 4
Bad example with the last guy there.
Greg Maddux has never touched 95 in his life. In his prime his fastball would top out at 91 on a really good day. These days he throws 85-88.
rhettrongun 3 years ago 3
curt s. is out,i believe his done with baseball =/
go red sox! =]
phoenix781 3 years ago
greg maddux only throws like 88
cavsbrotha111 3 years ago 2
Okay I'll admitt I'm wrong with Greg Maddux, but the other players that I have metioned are true.
renandstim 3 years ago
Johnson has thrown low 90's (88-93) over the past few years and he's not as old or as built as clemens. With johnson his size gives him a boost of speed (remember he's 6'10") and that's why he throws fast.
Erii77 3 years ago
i remember when clemens used to be cool
phillywigs 3 years ago
im a die hard yankee fan but i think he used staroids he was my pitching idol but not anymore
ZeppelinFreak13 3 years ago
same here..except im not a yankee fan
sizemo7 3 years ago
what you people fail to realize is, that even if he did use steroids, he still has to control the pitches. You think just because he can throw harder that he automatically becomes a good pitcher? I think not.
1fear1the1night1 3 years ago
gaining velocity is harder than controlling your pitches, little girl
TheWholeMatt 3 years ago
All my point is, is that you would still have to control the pitches. It doesnt really matter how hard you can throw if you can't consistently hit the mitt. Half of these pitchers today can't even control their fastball. Lefty Grove, for example, could hit the mitt everytime with his fastball and curveball and later forkball for the matter, but anyway, do you think he cared that he didnt have 5 pitches to chose from? Being able to control them is what made him great.
1fear1the1night1 3 years ago
um no its not u retard!
wtf ru talking about
killanum190 3 years ago
yes it is moron. I pitch for the AA Mississippi braves, and trust me, it's easier to gain velocity than it is to locate.
TheWholeMatt 3 years ago 2
you just said 2 opposite things...
lt3bigballer 3 years ago
it's easier to gain velocity than to locate pitches.... you just said something that doesn't make sense
TheWholeMatt 3 years ago
he's not on steroids
paBaseballa14 3 years ago
steroids!!!
bigghitter7 3 years ago
finally, a video that shows me how to throw a slider with the correct arm angle.
ufgators33 3 years ago 2
nice , real nice. Roger's the man !!!
paulco7 3 years ago
pitching has nothing to do with strength. it is all about momentum. when you start your wind up you are creating energy from you legs to your arm and your body whips it around. Squating 600 lbs does not mean your are going to throw 100 mph. steroids does not help a pitcher pitch faster and weight training either. look at tim lincecum or other skinny pitchers and you will see that pitching has nothing to do with strength.
NWAsMostWanted 3 years ago
pitching has a LOT to do with strength. sure there are skinny pitchers that can whip the ball but as you said it comes from creating energy and the more weight and strength you have, the more potential energy you have to throw the ball faster. 100 mph comes with a combination of strength, mechanics and talent. But to boldly say pitching has nothing to do with strength is false.
Daytonkid11 3 years ago
Pitching has very little to do with your overall strength. Yes there is some degree of strength involved but, it is 80 to 90 percent relying on the place of your arm and the whip of your arm. The faster the whip of your arm the faster the ball will go.
The only place that strength might play a role in pitching is your leg strength.
Sandy Kofaux is a perfect example of using all of his leg power to throw the ball.
MasterBayt 3 years ago 2
dude its rotation of the hips and extension the faarther u extend the faster u throw
favre4ever1995 3 years ago
man i love roger clemens
bdshow32 3 years ago 4
my son learned to throw a slider when he was 12. 2 years later he had to have tommy jhon surgery.dont throw it if you are under 15
3daygracc2596 3 years ago
He Is Wack! period....
coronado100 3 years ago
bump
narutoclifford 3 years ago
how does HGH make you a better pitcher???
It doesn't!!!
Iverson1232 3 years ago
It build strength. DUH
futureKazmir 3 years ago
strength is only good for batting. DUH
Iverson1232 3 years ago
pitching velocity comes from the legs and core you dumb fuck. which means you have to be strong to throw 90+
futureKazmir 3 years ago
if you can't aim for shit than how can he get the ball in the strike zone dumb fuck?
Iverson1232 3 years ago
he's old but good, and tbw what mtyh where they testing?
DeagleBeagle 3 years ago
They weren't testing a myth in this part. Just showing how Clemens throws certain pitches.
baseballaficionado 3 years ago
it's called the baseball myths... you can buy it from itunes...
Iverson1232 3 years ago
Ints not congres's fault Bush fuked it for us for the next 10 years, during his reign he has spent over 5-6 Trillion dollars on the war his stupid trips to affrica etc... so if youre about to have some kids or taking the next step in your life you have to save up for it. which is tottally fucked up. when he took over the Us national debt was 5trillion now it has doubled and going higher.
hurraquio 3 years ago 2
why do i keep getting like 4 posts
GreatAmericanRiot 3 years ago
Agreed HGH is not performance enhancer even if he did use it. it doesnt matter hes still a hell of a pitcher at age 40+ fuck the haters!
hurraquio 3 years ago