Re: the end of the 9/11 truth movement

[Shy6Boy9]

your smile cute lovely smile coordinates perfectly with ur bangs!

Shit i think im gonna start doin my hair like dat too maybe people would be like hay babybay!..naw im jkin im a guy but seriously..You should display your smile more often =) cus im diggin it!

[MsIMListening2U]

What if, just what if the 9/11 Truth Movement is ALSO being perpetrated by the gov't? Create the disaster and bring the country together like good Americans, then tear them apart by admitting the truth that is was a false flag attack. The consequences of people learning for a FACT that the gov't is dirty would be the largest scale terror attack in the history of the world. People say they "feel" a revolution coming - perhaps it is because that is the plan? (just thinking aloud here)

[delta9cbd]

Long may the truth seekers move among the blind and continue to spread the WAKE UP CALL.

A video for all you govt lovers, with which you can hopefully educate yourselves:

Zeitgeist Addendum

Look it up on Google video, and watch it ALL (provided your attention span reaches that

far, and of course, provided your IQ level allows you to process more than just the title)

[delta9cbd]

Of course the truth movement IS NOT DEAD!!

Kurtlein3 is mentally unstable. I raided his comments page WITH FACTS AND LOGIC, and also links to other video's that PROVE HIM WRONG. So wrong in fact, that he won't reply.

Yes, there are many other totalitarian issues that we must concern ourselves with, but in order to stop the Govt in its strive to control us, we must find the truth about 9/11 to throw DOUBT into everyones minds, OPEN EYES.

watch?v=YxTQTcoymek

watch?v=PgRsxv3KWkg

[lashkaretoiba]

YOU ARE STUPID. Don't worry about it. there are alot of dumb people like you living in America. Infact, some of you shouldn't be allowed to breath air.

[AvEryBadApPLe]

save a life, burn a bank

[911tourettes]

LOL!!! : )

[daftraider]

Thats one wing the 9/11 truth movement

We need the other wings alive allso like the

Chemtrail movement

and the anti gmo movement and all the other parts of the whole

I don't know about green peace movement and their plan to save whales and fish, anyone know what they up to? do they know wtf is going on?

We need to 'atack' on all fronts at the same time!!

[accidentsinspace]

Watch September Clues. All the proof that there were no planes smashing into the WTC.

[ortafunk]

With so much evidence there Is No way The 911 Truthers can be called a cult and We will never quit the bastards that caused 911 are tyrants against Humanity & I believe In forgiveness almost as much as Anyone but to let these tyrants go then We would be committing a crime against Humanity because their type will surly do It again.

[exposealexjonesnow]

Which 911 truthers? the no planers, the explosives believers... or how about that one lady that thought lasers from outer space hit the towers? The "911 Truthers" contradict themselves way too much, and most of them just repeat what they heard on a radio show or documentary, instead of doing their own research like they were told to do.. You can believe something, and tell the truth about something, without buying into the labels, and be just as, or perhaps even more effective.

[zapproowsdower]

there is physical evidence that there were planted explosives. I don't know where you get your false rhetoric " '911 Truthers' contradict themselves way too much", or how the scattered opinions of random uneducated people is relevant to whether their theories are right or wrong. Irrelevant. The facts are what count. There are contradictions and holes in the official 9/11 narrative. Physical evidence of planted explosives, video proof of free-fall speed. Honestly look at the facts.

[IFloridaMotocrossI]

Unfortunately for you guys, there's no peer reviewed journals on your side. The Science is what matters.

[zapproowsdower]

There are 118 peer-reviewed papers on our side actually, as of April of this year - Many of them have been commented on, but not a single one has been refuted in any way - I agree, the Science is what matters! You're the kind of person that makes me sick, casually jumping into a deadly serious debate, making nonsensical statements that do nothing but make people stupider - Fuck you

[IFloridaMotocrossI]

That's funny. All the research I've done, when I used to be on your side, I didn't see any peer reviewed evidence that supported your claims. I found a lot of rational, logical, and reasonable reasons against your claims, not to mention, peer reviewed articles debunking your claims. Your the kind of person that makes me sick. You think 9/11 was an inside job, Swine flu vaccines are meant for genocide, and there's an alien base on the dark side of the moon. You make people dumber.

[zapproowsdower]

Let me get this straight: You didn't do any real research into the 118+ peer-reviewed studies that support my side, yet you claim to know about how the "claims" were "debunked"? You have a dysfunctional sense of humor, kid!

[IFloridaMotocrossI]

I'm not repeating myself. Reread the comment you idiot.

[zapproowsdower]

I'll repeat it for you, genius: "I didn't see any peer reviewed evidence" Yet it exists, so obviously you don't know what you're talking about

[IFloridaMotocrossI]

*facepalm* Read CAREFULLY what you just quoted. I'm not going to argue with someone who is so stupid, they can't understand and comprehend a simple Youtube comment. Just give up, you're DUMB.

[mookixox]

It seems like u need to think 15 seconds for every fucking thought that comes out of your head...10+ minute video with 1 minute of substance* Don't worry I can't blame u for being overwhelmed and wanting to drop the movement, its not for the weak or the easily scared...climb back out of the rabbit hole and go back to SLEEP, dream those sweet dreams that only sheep can dream*

[911BattleScars01]

She was never part of any movement to begin with. Your retarded ass comments really show how effective you people are at *waking people up*. I can't blame you for refusing to see reality, its not for the moronic or the fucking flat out insane.... we have critical thinking here. Climb back up Alex Jones' ASSHOLE, and go back to SLEEP your damn self. Fucking cunt hole.

[Vinseneb]

mokixox. People have their own way of doing things. I think your comment was rude and pointless,it was also disrespectful.

[iTellYouNoLie]

worship none but yourself, report what you find, and always be ready to change your mind when evidence presented shatters your beliefs. that's life, life is learning, stop learning, stop living. truth is always subjective, people embellish, and omit.

personally I don't believe the no-plane evidence because I've studied it intensely. plus it's fishy that searching "no-plane" used to go straight to shanksville, or building7, now it's all the towers.

history is written by the victors.

[1tonykirk]

The NWO puppet Masters are getting desperate since the discovery of Super Nano Thermite. I've never seen such a concerted effort on YT to get this issue off the table. Don't let their disinfo agents dissuade anyone.

The pot is about to boil. Now is not the time to back off but

to redouble our efforts to get the Truth Out.

The whole scheme is unraveling. Their are now over 143 co-sponsors of HR 1207. Keep the pressure on. Make them squirm. They will screw up and expose themselves.

[accidentsinspace]

No planes on 9/11. Wake up Truthers! There were planes in the area, but NO PLANES hit the WTC. Television lied to you. And you were tricked like little kids with gimmicks and video illusions. Those buildings just exploded.

[exposealexjonesnow]

Sources and links please? You can't very well just say "THIS HAPPENED, WAKE UP", without some facts to back it up.

[Ipluckithard]

You are not a Truther..

you are Spartish.

[coffeedude65]

there is no valid movement when as you say, they allow the group think mentality- when people do not entertain doubt, including doubting their own beliefs- that defeats everything they are supposely for. don't drink the kool-aide. peace

[leslielandberg]

It seems that you have a borderline personality disorder or other kind of emotional illness. The arguements you put forward are nutso-cookoo and don't make sense. Lizards??? wtf? Anyway, it's not about your petty personal clashes, and you need to stop obscessing and get some help. There is so much compelling evidence that anyone who wishes to make statements against the merits of the arguements must be insane. And you manifestly are, to judge by your video. Get Help.

[missgriffin77]

The idea is to light a spark, whether people agree on the little details is irrelevant. What is the big picture? Who's "truth" is more important than someone elses? There is no way to get everyone to adhere to the exact same ideas, or "truths"~~~What is important is to keep spreading YOUR truth in hopes that one by one the sleeping masses hear it enough to question things more deeply. The whole idea that people are talking about ANY part of this "movement" dying is incredibly disheartening....

[CosmicDramaQueen]

Kurtilein3 is not so bright, he is Dead wrong...I agree with you re: the so called Movement. Rocket Science is not required to understand that a Jet Fuel Fire does not and never ever has completely disintegrated a Steel and concrete building to dust, that said...Getting STUCK is getting STUCK. If We fail to live our lives and make the proper choices to fulfill our own dreams then we are Sleeping. Giving our power away in word, deed, or thought is the Damaging aspect of becoming obsessed.

[TheSpartacat]

Oh WELL said!! :-)

[TheFinalHighlander]

I'd still take the Truth Movement any day over most of your friends around here who have no time for it to be frank. I mention them because they're the group who have repeatedly railed against it and have commented here as if they had done any better.

My own issue with the Truth Movement is the alien/reptilian crowd who ruin it for everyone else. I think they're quite right to shun the no-planers because it's retarded and just makes the whole movement look crazy.

[TheFinalHighlander]

I don't think the Truth Movement is dying at all. I think a lot of people who've commented here would love that for their own personal reasons but I don't think it's so because YouTube is not reflective of a real life movement.

The guy you're responding to would especially love it. He one stars videos if someone even mentions the subject (TheModernMystic for one), he's also a fanatic for global warming. It's evident in his video that he relishes the idea although I wonder why he cares if its...

[TheFinalHighlander]

such nonsense. Must be that niggling doubt that all his kind seem to suffer from which keeps them harping away about an issue despite the fact they think it's "ridiculous".

I still agree you don't need a movement to know/speak the truth but it probably helps and the Truth Movement isn't really something that needs attacking. It's fairly benign regardless of whether anyone likes it or not.

[TheFinalHighlander]

The Truth Movement might be seen as unaccepting of other ideas but I think that's true of most if not all movements since they only exist because of certain ideas and ideals in the first place. If you allow any idea then I don't know how you'd still be a movement because your goals would be all over the place.

[TheFinalHighlander]

In this case you're either trying to convince people that the towers were being brought down via controlled demolition and the planes were just the scapegoat or you're trying to convince people that there were no planes. It's not really a scenario where middle ground can be found so it might be seen as "unaccepting" but the alternative is a mess of theories and ideas.

I know it's unpopular to say so but Alex Jones is still the one who has his approach right in my opinion. Max Igan is quite...

[TheFinalHighlander]

good to if you're not familiar with him.

[TheFinalHighlander]

And yes, I will accept money for making this the most commented on video in Ireland today.

[TheSpartacat]

Max Igan is the best!!! You're SO right about him. But- 1 important thing he says, & some truthers should pay attention to: the fear vs love issue. The fear element is a bad part of what the movement creates. It'll fuck with the ability to think clearly & it spreads out into the 'fear of challenge' realm. Truthers can be v self protective as a group. They shouldnt be, they don't need to be afraid of challenge.

I don't think its an accident that Max talks about this so much in truther circles?

[TheFinalHighlander]

Everyone's entitled to an opinion but they shouldn't be surprised when people don't want to touch them with a bargepole because it's so outlandish. No-planers are an embarrasment to the Truth Movement. Even if it was true, any small amount of common sense would tell you that most people won't take you seriously anyway.

If reptilians were a metaphor all this time then it would be the dumbest idea ever since it has done more harm than good. Even Icke acknowledges its hard to swallow.

[TheFinalHighlander]

Besides that you've got the stories of Credo Mutwa and accounts of people seeing literal lizards so it's safe to say that its believers take it very seriously and this is evident by reading the comments to such videos.

Believing something that most other people don't doesnt bestow "integrity" or "intellectual honesty" upon you unless you have some kind of data to prove what you believe which the no-planers do not aside from footage.

[batflies]

WORD! you win, happy? blah fucking blah, yes their is such a thing as intellectual honesty, it is there whether acknowledged by one or a trillion; wake me when you stop your psuedo intellect/opinion with no leg.

[TheFinalHighlander]

Yeah typical no-planer resorting to rhetoric and calling the other person rather ironically a "psuedo intellectual". That's what people always do when they have nothing to argue. It doesn't matter, at the end of this conversation you'll still have no real evidence or proof for your claims no matter what you say. So if considering yourself to have intellectual honesty is enough to make you content then great. I'm very happy for you and your fellow believers.

[batflies]

so its about appeasing others not to getting to the core, ok. embarrasment is highly presumptuous to throw out, i don't consider than to be embarrassing, subjective? i've known people to be so cold emotionally that reptilian suits their behavior, however i never said physically, and it is far fetched.

[TheFinalHighlander]

The purpose of the Truth Movement is to convince people and spread the word. It's not about appeasing, it's about giving rational, persuasive argument. I don't expect a no-planer to understand that though, because just like theists they see what they believe as entirely rational and seem bewildered when other people don't.

[noseriously711]

Yo "no planer" phucque off! Just kidding.

I really think you have something meaningful to say, unfortunately the sound in this video is distorted to where I have difficulty hearing you. Any chance you could clean it up a bit?

Thanks

[TheSpartacat]

courageous vlog! hope ppl listen.

The shit rains down every day-can't understand why ppl get bogged down in little details. Its like staring at flotsam & ignoring where the current is taking you, individually as well as collectively.

How many truthers have spent hours 'distracted' by the planer/no planer debate? For a group who at their core want to expose the truth, (i believe they do) they're IMHO trapped in an "Us and Them" paradigm, against everyone, not just our true foes :-(

[TheSpartacat]

i hope they take the courage to change. and that doesnt mean to change their opinions... they're entitled to those, on every topic, and debate is healthy... but this 'shut down' behaviour that actually is suffocating what their 'movement' is meant to be about.... :-(

If you starve a fire of oxygen, it loses its heat.

Deep breaths everyone?

[lazymornings]

Honestly for once......people don't wanna know cause they either can't accept it or can't mentally handle it...it's a scary thought to think the people that are suppose to look after you...just aren't What 'people' need to do..is just prepare for anything...and not to be surprized and just have a plan.....know what you need to do..

The truth movement has lost it.......but in reality...we know the system is going in the wrong direction and people at the top will save themselfs....

b'stards.

[bonghits4jebus420]

Approve my video damn you!

[licoricerain]

she has my permission to pimp slap you =p LMAO

[Neurolanis]

The 9/11 Truth Movement will never end so long as it is not resolved. Just as the case with JFK's assassination. However, he may be right in that the issue may be left behind somewhat by the general body of the Truth Movement to focus on more present and upcoming issues related to the subject of the NWO. And I think this wise. Answers are needed. Justice is needed. But unfortunately, I think what has come out is out, and what remains well guarded will remain hidden for some time...

[Neurolanis]

Right now we have the issues of micro-chipping human beings, FEMA camps, martial law bills, the North American Union, media propaganda, disinformation, etc. There are many ways to expose corruption and wake people up from their trance of being followers, into becoming independent-thinking men and women who are not corporate property. Youre right of course that many truthers need to think much more carefully over what they believe and repeat. Is there credibility without accountability?

[bonghits4jebus420]

AND I DEMAND, YOU LOOK AT THAT MIND CONTROL CULT VIDEO RIGHT NOW! A lot of you are victims of this in a big way..

[bonghits4jebus420]

I think the main problem is people don't want to admit it when they are wrong, some people just rather believe what they want to believe, and others like to take on other people's beliefs, and pretend those beliefs are their own. Some people are afraid to even LOOK at an opposing argument, and at the same time they claim to only ask questions and want the truth.. this can be applied to anything, not just 9/11. If you want scientific truth, you HAVE to look at an opposing argument dammit.

[machinenation]

The only good movement is a good bowel movement.

[kurtilein3]

"why do we need a movement to tell the truth?"

great question.

if its not the truth, but a belief, then it needs to be maintained using groupthink. the belief needs constant reinforcement, and cannot survive without a movement, because there are no facts, because there is no evidence. so noone has a reason to buy into it. but if you have a group with friendly people that does lots of cool stuff, and everyone agrees, thats a reason. so you buy into the belief and the group at the same time.

[CitizenCindy]

"People don't want to be saved." It's all summed up right there, and it's worth repeating "People don't want to be saved."

[DeadEyeMorgan]

It's like what Tommy Lee Jones says in Under Siege... watch?v=d9Tc-wmELhc

[antiminati]

Great Vlog

The Truth Movement has accomplished its goal,nothing....They have stood behind their appointed Eye-Cons and conveyed all since responsibility on to them,including the reponsibility of thought

To be a Movement you have to be going somewhere where were they going???I mean where was the political movement,does anybody think that standing there with a bullhorn screaming your lungs out, is going to get you places no it makes you look MAD and dosent create a great image for the rest

[bonghits4jebus420]

@antiminati YES I agree 100% with what you just said. I've been saying the same thing for a while now. What will bullhorning and dvd's do to stop a "New World Order"? Are you going to throw dvd's at them ninja star style?

[antiminati]

I thought they were there infobombs dude??they are blowing the whole thing apart......err well maybe not

They only thing they have done is line the pockets of a few and crucify anyone who disagrees with said few,really not a great bases for a movement is it?

[911tourettes]

Yeah, since you obviously don't know me or what I stand for your opinion counts for less than zero also. And as for 'kissing up' that just proves how little you know me.

So do me a favour and rev up and fuck off.

[PASMdude]

Once you talk about how the buildings came down you lose your audience. Fact. The PNAC said they want a new pearl harbor. Planes flew around for almost 2 hours in the most heavily guarded airspace on the planet. Once they got their new pearl harbor they proceeded to fuck up the world just as they planned. If that is a coincidence everything is.

[ubuibiok]

nice moves..... +1

[911tourettes]

I agree with 100%. Very well said! : )

[Vinseneb]

We are a network of Info! The Network is not a movement. It is Individuals sharing Information. How good is that. And when they come for us then we can say we have never been part of any movement. I appreciate what your saying Elaine. I'm with you. In the Network. Thanx!

[CanadianPatriot1973]

I honestly believe that reality of our current economic situation is what is distracting alot of people. Not to long ago, alot of people had extra time, and still lived in comfortably. I now know of many MANY people within the truth movement are now struggling very hard in their day to day existence, and cannot take on other stresses, and have moved on to their daily lives just to survive...

[czarwright]

That's the truth, Sis. its a form of controlling a view and was use in the Communist movement in russia to gain control over the people. its basic law of nature , survive :(

Peace

[Plutonwolf]

Excellent insight, but it goes back a LOT further than this. I saw this take place in the 70's in order to castrate those uppity middle classers who had the gall to thwart the MIC over that bottomless well of profit known as Nam. The harsh economic climate of the late 70's served well to refocus the middle class on the target the men behind the curtains wanted them to focus on. Thus, Hippies became "Entrepreneurs" and war became acceptable once more.

[Vinseneb]

Take your info from sources everywhere including researchers within the (so called) TM that's cool because there is something to be learned from all sources. A little here A little there. Use your own research and read between the lines. It's that easy. Intuition is the Key. Peace and more Peace!

[AsheIsTheRaven]

The truth is supposed to be the truth. It''s a good thing to search for the truth, but when your searching for a conformation of your own conspiracy theories, then you loose the moral high ground

[Vinseneb]

The truth movement was infiltrated even before I connected to YT last year. That will happen with every movement. Research the history of any movement and tell me if I'm wrong. I was a paid up member of the WRP back in the eighties and I saw it with my own eyes. Movements always expose themselves to that kind of manipulation. Do not align yourself with a movement because you are putting yourself on the line. Peace Elaine and thanx for that. Peace!

[spinalfluidontap]

The truth movement seems to lack the ability to evolve and grow. There is this rather large group of independent investigators, truthers, but their combined tallents and efforts are going to waste on something that happened eight years ago. Then that cult wanders off into the Alex Jones cult, and then to the Cult of Ron Paul, but nothing is actually accomplished. Just one more fringe group making noise. "How many hours each day are wasted arguing between planers/no-planers?"

[Plutonwolf]

As with any movement, pure hearted well intentioned people start the movement, but are soon supplanted by opportunists and scammers.Where once sincerity and integrity counted for all, now it seems style, and snarkiness is what is paramount. I see some truthers who have much to say and have done their homework slowly slipping into obscurity while flashy little twits rise like foamy turds to the top of the bowl. Perhaps it is time to flush the canals?

[spinalfluidontap]

Kidd sent me a clip of an AJ show where he is showing himself for the money whore he is. He wants $30,000.00 for his fucking,"911 was an inside job" bullhorn, so he can start another radio show or TV show, or whatever the fuck it is that he "NEEDS MORE MONEY" for. Flushing the canals is one thing, but it will take a hundred million plumbers working around the clock to send the shit on its way, 'cause so fucking few will clean their own shit clogged toilets (minds) on their own. Lazy,stupid,both?

[Vinseneb]

What Movement?