Toyota Hybrid System 2

[hom2fu]

theory sound perfect, will this work in the real world?

[GamelsmurfXXX]

@hom2fu -Just go to a Toyota dealer and u can test driwe one ! My Prius works werry Good ! And it sawes me more money than the bank..

[happyblackie]

is this the same for honda fit?

[jawbreaker480]

damn japanese took my idea

[cvunit]

@jawbreaker480 damn YOU took my idea

[me199009]

Lmao that guy , that's amazing

[redghost105]

make it go 0-60 in 3.8 and top speed of 180...and make it look like a ferrari and ill buy it

[fluffyman16]

you guys scare me ^^' great car btw, im looking at into buying one next week

[badboyforlife10195]

electric blah

[oilhammer04]

I get 39-41 mpg in town where we drive on hilly roads. This car is great. It is a leader in hybrid technology.

[daaznrichard]

but to bad the toyota prius is too cramped

[elapichoo]

his voice is cool i would love to talk htat way

[hydrogenix]

@elapichoo british accent... 

[jkrych]

i wasnt talking about wind or solar power, i never said anything to the contrary of prices or available technology.....everyone thinks the switch to elec would be long and hard and im saying not so much....... ive never been called a dolt before, um, thank you?

[jkrych]

well, actually we use fuel because we have for the last 100 years or so? and people are scared to change. plus you cant make a bajillion dollars on renewable energy, so that pretty much takes it out of functioning in america.....and im sure the ic engine was limited and expensive when it first came out. who is the bastard now?

[jkrych]

electricity can be generated with other things besides oil. who is the moron?

[JGMagoo]

The falacy in this theoretical car is the fact that no battery yet developed today can accept a charge as fast as the braking energy produced. Compressed air might be a better means of quick energy storage. However this adds even additional complication, cost, and weight.

[monmontran7]

Le futur...

[crabs73]

jkrych

you are thinking nicely, but could you imagine how much electric power would be needed to charge all electric cars if all jump in only electric cars at once?

[jkrych]

yes but the thing about electricity is the planet cant be held by the throat with it...  - its renewable-

[jkrych]

this is a marvel of technology, however, why dont we spend the billions in R&D on battery technology, and eliminate the petrol engine? iron phosphate batteries have the same energy density as lith-ion and no explosion issues, and will reach 80% charge in under seven minutes.

[abdullahyo]

1 gallon of petrol can store as much energy as 1000 pounds of lead acid batteries so gasoline is very efficient for 'storing' energy.

[jkrych]

right, but we dont "store it" do we? no, we burn it at 20% energy effciency along with our pocketbooks. do you think we could come up with a renewable energy source with 1 trillion dollars?

[abdullahyo]

I think we can but it may or may not be economical........this renewable will have to be more economical and reliable then the existing range of fuels. Furthermore there are recycling issues with regards to batteries and their storage capacity goes down with time and is influenced by changes in temperature.

[jkrych]

all that can be changed, get out of the rut.

[abdullahyo]

ofcourse it can be changed, but it would take a long time.

When you go on the motorway and need refueling, you can stop by at a gas station, but you wont be able to do that if you have an electric car because a) electric cars need a long time to charge and b) there is no infrastructure in place, furthermore the electic car and fuel infrastructure will have to be better than the ic cars to replace them as it would take billions of dollars to develop a new infrastructure.

[jkrych]

this is all true, however, iron phosphate batteries can accept 80% charge in five minutes, first problem solved. second, how much money are we spending in iraq? lets do something good with that instead of buying bombs.

[abdullahyo]

yup, thats right.

but what is the 'energy storage to weight ratio' for iron phosphate batteries?

[jkrych]

170 mah/g....

[abdullahyo]

mah=?

give me Watts/Kg plz.

[jkrych]

100 gram battery, at most common 3.7v cell, 25 times capacity max discharge, roughly 3600w/KG

[abdullahyo]

That is huge!

the energy density of advanced lead acid battery is about 45Wh/Kg and that for a lithium ion (in laptops) is about 120Wh/Kg.

Are you sure its 3600? How many discharge cycles?

[jkrych]

you meant watt-hours,my math was off, its closer to 90 Wh/kg, as in Lithium Technology Corporations 7Kw prius conversion

[abdullahyo]

yeah my bad.

and how many charge-discharge cycles?

[jkrych]

around 2000 at 80% discharge, 1200 or so at deep cycle.

[AUSnipes]

Hello

Nice video, I heard that electric is better in allot of ways over Hydrogen, Hopefully they will attempt and all electric car again.