Greetings humans. We are the Iginites. In one hundred thousand years of civilization we have managed to attain a level of technology that far surpasses your own. We are actually able to bend what you call space-time to travel vast distances and we can transform energy to matter. A whole galaxy of planets is at our disposal. But what we crave the most is your primitive, dirty, disease riddled, uneducated, superstitious, idiotic women. And also we like baseball. It's kewl!
If there are a gazillion of stars, why would Aliens come here?
Why wouldn't they? Most of them aren't habbitable right, and if they can bend space time or whatever the fuck, then why not. I gotta agree though that i get pretty pissed of when people clame Aliens have been here for certain, until the come through the clouds like in Independence day, you don't know.
But still anythings possible. ife didn't keep an open mind we would still be in medieval times
@stackingchedder1 So obviously you believe in this nonsense... I dont know whether to laugh at you or send you the phone number of a good psychologist. Seriously, get real and stop wasting your time on this rubbish.
@FlyingSpaghettiMoner how would you know? this could be the result of gene splicing done by an advanced alien race. or maybe are dna is as far from there's as a tiger is from a lion's because they had something to do with us in the past. im not saying i believe that at all just that anything's possible, but especially if you're dealing with an advanced species a million or more years scientifically ahead of us.
@theeonionbagel people who mistake the word "our" with "our" aren't worthy of input. Gene splicing?. LOL. I'm getting shitty tv reception over here, can I borrow your tinfoil hat?
@dmadeira123 c´mon bitch the guy its not a punk, its professional scientist, he`s talking around scientis studies, are you scientis? no? then shut the fuck up!!!
I have so much respect for people like this. He is not afraid or shy to say what he believes. I mean, most of the people who have commented are going "wtf, dis dude iz fukd up lol" but he doesn't care. He's like "Fuck you, I'm going on TV to talk about this shit and I won't even flinch!". That's awesome.
lol pmsl listen tube the word s stiching free mason.....Nephilim was sappost to be giants im no mathmation but that skull seems ruffly same size its simple i hope Lloyd pye's telling the truth and he him self is a freemason cock guzzler
you kook listen i nearly fell for this ufo properganda... z sitchn is free mason so is his bitch boy jorden maxwell they claim they are on our side but cock guzzlering each other behined the sean!!! they just getting you use to the WORD new world order there all scum only a couple of real people like that dude from wiki links now theres a real hero all the revolutions thats happing around the world are funnded bye the same people who put these low lifes in power blah blah yada yada TRUST NO1...
its soo sad that just the mentioning of the word "alien" and ur labeled a kook or it gets trivialized by mentioning "little green men", theres billions of stars in a galaxy and billions of galaxies and dumbasses cant comprehend alien life or it visiting us. why do ppl get soo offended to the point that we cant have an intelligent talk about alien life.
@carlosZ1981 Well talking about alien life on other planets isn't really that disrespected anymore I think. Is Michio Kaku being ridiculed? No. But to say you might have found evidence on earth, now THAT is "pathetic"!!
Hello Ladies and Gentle men, it would appear that Alien Slave is taking over Youtube, We received a......SIGNAL! Check out his new teaser. We also have a new trailer coming out soon, don't miss the biggest youtube movie ever!
@wlfmi You have accused Dr. Steven Novella of being a liar and yet you have provided no evidence for how this might be the case. Slandering someone like that and not having the courage to even provide supporting documentation makes you look like a whack job who is not operating on Planet Earth. Show us all how he has lied.
@wlfmi "Altenative Knowlege" is a load of BS, a term coined by whackos who pervert science so that they can use the terminology but not follow the rigours of the scientific method. In other words, it is a load of bunk used to rip people off.
@wlfmi You say, "I’ve research the works of many scientists that do not appear in scientific journal." Why do you keep saying that you "do research"? You don't do research! You do not know the first thing about research. How on earth can you claim "I’ve research the works of many scientists that do not appear in scientific journals", when you don't know what you are talking about? Legitimate research is published in legit journals, all of which require the names of all author. Idiot.
@wlfmi Where is the science to support this? If you are going to use DNA testing as grounds for evidence, then, such a test, being a scientific one, must provides results, which then must be used to support the theory SCIENTIFICALLY! This is a load of crap, not science!
@wlfmi What makes this immune from not having to exhibit evidence just like anything else that exists on Planet Earth? If you are going to use DNA testing, which is itself a scientifically-developed and supported test, then how can you possibly argue that the results should not be measured using science? You cannot cheery-pick. That is what is referred to as PSEUDOSCIENCE. In other words, quackery.
Where is the evidence that this skull is non-human?
@wlfmi If I claimed to have developed a cure for cancer and was willing to sell the cure to whomever, would society expect me to provide evidence that would have to meet the standards of science? If instead, I claimed that I used "alternative knowledge" to develop this cure, and as such, I didn't need to use science, I would be run out of town on the end of a pitch fork and rightly so! Probably prison.
@wlfmi If "Alternative knowledge is science just not popular science!", then it should be testable using scientific methods. Such "knowledge", whether or not you choose to describe it as "alternative", either exists in our accepted reality or it does not. Science measures that which exists in this reality. So, once again, where is the scientific evidence to support that this skull is non-human?
@wlfmi What makes this immune from not having to exhibit evidence just like anything else that exists on Planet Earth? If you are going to use DNA testing, which is itself a scientifically-developed and supported test, then how can you possibly argue that the results should not be measured using science? You cannot cheery-pick. That is what is referred to as PSEUDOSCIENCE. In other words, quackery.
Where is the evidence that this skull is non-human?
@wlfmi If I claimed to have developed a cure for cancer and was willing to sell the cure to whomever, would society expect me to provide evidence that would have to meet the standards of science? If instead, I claimed that I used "alternative knowledge" to develop this cure, and as such, I didn't need to use science, I would be run out of town on the end of a pitch fork and rightly so! Probably prison.
@wlfmi What does Glen W Deen have to do with this skull? Why are you referring to science but at the same time, you claim that science is not required to provide evidence that this skull is non-human?
Where is the evidence that this skull is anything but human? Why do you avoid this simple question?
@wlfmi If "Alternative knowledge is science just not popular science!", then it should be testable using scientific methods. Such "knowledge", whether or not you choose to describe it as "alternative", either exists in our accepted reality or it does not. Science measures that which exists in this reality. So, once again, where is the scientific evidence to support that this skull is non-human?
@wlfmi What does Glen W Deen have to do with this skull? Why are you referring to science but at the same time, you claim that science is not required to provide evidence that this skull is non-human?
Where is the evidence that this skull is anything but human? Why do you avoid this simple question?
@wlfmi How is it considered legitimate science, to on one hand, claim to be using DNA analysis to ascertain the origin of this skull, and yet not follow science the way scientists do? Such inconsistencies make this whole affair a joke. Science is predicated on using the scienfic method which includes not drawing conclusions before the evidence is in. Why has Pye assumed that this skull is not human, or has originas of ET, when there is absolutely no evidence to support this?
@wlfmi What does Glen W Deen have to do with this skull? Why are you referring to science but at the same time, you claim that science is not required to provide evidence that this skull is non-human?
Where is the evidence that this skull is anything but human? Why do you avoid this simple question?
Every scientific argument has an equally compelling scientific counter argument. One argument becomes popular belief and the other though believed by many scientists is unknown to the public and as such is alternative knowledge. CO2 emissions do not course global warming, the big bang never happened and dark energy does not exist yet this is accepted scientifically. Alternative knowledge is the science behind everything that is not accepted by the majority!
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@wlfmi Now you are talking about Climate Change???? Are you serious? You are a whack job and you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Tell me the part about how you know anything about climate science to be able to claim that global warming does not occur and is not cuased by human activity!!
We have scientific proof that our sun is not a lone star. Most stars in the universe have binary or ternary companions so our sun would be odd if it did not have any companions. The observable known as precession proves that we have stars that we cannot see. Glen W Deen astrophysicist explains in his report how we have white dwarf and brown dwarf companion stars and or very close to a globular cluster. We cannot see these due to gravitational lensing. We are not alone!
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@wlfmi You have accused Dr. Steven Novella of being a liar and yet you have provided no evidence for how this might be the case. Slandering someone like that and not having the courage to even provide supporting documentation makes you look like a whack job who is not operating on Planet Earth. Show us all how he has lied.
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@wlfmi If "Alternative knowledge is science just not popular science!", then it should be testable using scientific methods. Such "knowledge", whether or not you choose to describe it as "alternative", either exists in our accepted reality or it does not. Science measures that which exists in this reality. So, once again, where is the scientific evidence to support that this skull is non-human?
It was decided that no star can reach high enough temperature for the process of nuclear fusion to produce the heavier elements and as such it was concluded that all stars in the universe must have existed as a single star. Fred Hoyle PHD and nuclear physicists proved that one star can produce all known elements. The scientific evidence against the big bang is overwhelming but because of popular belief no one knows anything about it. Alternative knowledge is science just not popular science!
The Starchild project is not up against scientific counter arguments but is up against the 3 stages of truth. The first stage is ridiculed, the second stage is violently opposed and the third stage it is accepted as being self-evident. TheSkepticUn is a very fine example of the three stages of truth as it is clear he is in the second stage. Notice how none that argue against the Starchild do so in a calm manor but instead use ridicule before violently opposing!
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@wlfmi "Altenative Knowlege" is a load of BS, a term coined by whackos who pervert science so that they can use the terminology but not follow the rigours of the scientific method. In other words, it is a load of bunk used to rip people off.
@wlfmi Where is the science to support this? If you are going to use DNA testing as grounds for evidence, then, such a test, being a scientific one, must provides results, which then must be used to support the theory SCIENTIFICALLY! This is a load of crap, not science!
@wlfmi Where is the science to support this? If you are going to use DNA testing as grounds for evidence, then, such a test, being a scientific one, must provides results, which then must be used to support the theory SCIENTIFICALLY! This is a load of crap, not science!
@wlfmi Where is the science to support this? If you are going to use DNA testing as grounds for evidence, then, such a test, being a scientific one, must provides results, which then must be used to support the theory SCIENTIFICALLY! This is a load of crap, not science!
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@wlfmi What makes this immune from not having to exhibit evidence just like anything else that exists on Planet Earth? If you are going to use DNA testing, which is itself a scientifically-developed and supported test, then how can you possibly argue that the results should not be measured using science? You cannot cheery-pick. That is what is referred to as PSEUDOSCIENCE. In other words, quackery.
Where is the evidence that this skull is non-human?
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@wlfmi If I claimed to have developed a cure for cancer and was willing to sell the cure to whomever, would society expect me to provide evidence that would have to meet the standards of science? If instead, I claimed that I used "alternative knowledge" to develop this cure, and as such, I didn't need to use science, I would be run out of town on the end of a pitch fork and rightly so! Probably prison.
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Come on folks....this skull has NEVER been shown to be anything but human. If you think differently, then why has such compelling and irrefutable evidence never been published in any credible scientific journal like Science or Nature (or the hundreds of others)?? Because it is a load of crap. Some guy selling books to idiots.
@TheSkepticUn Where has the definitive proof of this completely human skull been published so we can all alert Mr. Pye and allow him to cease his wanderings? As one of those idiots, I myself would like to see what sudy has undone all the measurements and analyses that allows this anomaly to keep stumping the experts. This year's shotgun sequencing technique DID detect 265 human base pairs AND 342 base pairs entirely unknown to the NIH database. Neither human nor a load of crap, amigo.
@cvisenti May I also add that many tests were done retrieving “Strings of Starchild DNA over 3000 base pairs long.” Line in quotations are written on Lloyd Pye’s site. Most known deformities happen with a fault in only one letter being wrong out of the entire genome of 3 billion base pairs. With the current testing results on the Starchild skull we are more similar to a chimpanzee than the Starchild in fact we are more genetically similar to a banana than we are to the Starchild.
@wlfmi Yes well, you should know better than to bother some people with the facts. Makes you wonder whose books SkepticUn buys, to whom I mean no insult when I say it appears it's 2 to 1 on this issue in YouTube court. And majority rules, isn't that it?
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@wlfmi You are incorrect. Despite the propaganda, no DNA analysis has ever demonstrated that this skull is anything but human. What is the basis for assuming that an organism is another "species" (or otherwise has DNA changed) when there has never been demonstrated such an assertion? Do we also assume that pigs can fly or dogs can talk, based on the possibility that one might be able to? How about you get an education in science so that you can read the literature and understand the concepts?
@TheSkepticUn I have written lengthy responses repeatedly on Starchild 2010 DNA results page. Please go to this page and read what I have written! Stop using straw man arguments by not twisting what I have said in an attempt to make it appear I have said something I haven’t. I have debated DNA analysis can you please use science to debate DNA tests please! A combination of 20 different deformities cannot explain the Starchild. What combination of deformities do....
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@wlfmi And I have rrpeatedly informed you that scientific findings are not published on the personal webiste of the person who stands most to gain from the findings. Rather, legitimate science is published in scientific journals that are peer-reviewed, so as to remove the conflict of interest that is obviously at the heart of this nonsense. No credible researcher would EVER report findings only on a personal website. Where is this evidence published?
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@wlfmi You claim to have "debated DNA analysis". You dont even have the slightest idea about the gentics involved, so how on earth can you debate that which you have absolutely no background in? You are a lunatic, obsessed with what is simply a cult.
@TheSkepticUn We follow alternative knowledge and less popular scientific theory. If you wish to argue against what we believe then you need to research what it is we believe and why. You’re not going to find it in scientific journals because it is not popular science. Do your research in the area you are poorly trying to debate or go away child! I’ve research the works of many scientists that do not appear in scientific journals. Starchild DNA tests are on the Internet so look for them so....
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@wlfmi The term "aletnative knowledge" is a load of crap, used why whckos to sell books to stupid, gullible people, some of whom require meds. Until such time as you or anytone else who wishes to discuss such a topic gets the prerequisite education in science, then you are just a ranting fool.
@wlfmi You say, "I’ve research the works of many scientists that do not appear in scientific journal." Why do you keep saying that you "do research"? You don't do research! You do not know the first thing about research. How on earth can you claim "I’ve research the works of many scientists that do not appear in scientific journals", when you don't know what you are talking about? Legitimate research is published inlegit jurnals, all of which require the anmes of all author. Idiot.
@TheSkepticUn that you have an idea what it is you are debating. If you are not willing to debate and just intend on using straw man arguments you are not going to accomplish anything here are you? If I’m such an obsessed nut why are you here wasting time with me and what does that say about you? END
Regardless of the skull or not, it doesn't change the fact that our ancient civilizations documented their history, and what was documented involved an alien race (gods) who descended upon the skies. This is virtually found in all major ancient religions, so maybe skeptics should take a trip back in time and review what was documented in those times, it is more bewildering than a skull that may or may not have alien DNA on it.
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I'm convinced this is a congenital bone deformity. Posteriorly, the cranial landmarks are intact, just altered (see styloid processes and mastoid processes for examples). The maxilla is missing as well as the zygomatic structures I suspect because of the deformity. There is no reason at this point to postulate this skull belongs to an alien life form. / please see Occum's Razor.
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@MRNEWSguerillamedia You're right, because bullshit makes me emotional. DNA testing proved that the skull contained X and Y chromosomes, which is only possible when both parents are human. There's a plethora of actual, verifiable evidence that states this is a human skull, and a variety of explanations for the deformity. It's douches like this thief that purport the alien hypothesis in order to make money. Yes it makes me emotional when people tell out right lies, as it should for you as well.
@lupischuckle and he's disproven all of the known possibilities and rational explations because it's scientifically impossible for any known disorder or deformity to have such a wide range of deformities while retaining perfect symettry. He's broke as, has been traveling the world trying to gain funding for research as he still doesn't know what it is. As a former Secret agent my guess is he could be making a hell of a lot more of a living in many different ventures but this has been entrusted.
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@MRNEWSguerillamedia This is simple biology. The skull contains X and Y chromosomes, that's just plain impossible unless both parents are human. Lex parsimoniae. It takes a very simple mind to be fooled by men like him, and a complete lack of understanding of the world. Sorry to tell you, but humanity just isn't that important that some being from another world would chose Earth, of all the trillions of planets, to come and visit. I don't know why you chose to deny science and embrace lunacy.
@lupischuckle That's a lie and you know it, they found an X but no Y chromosome the father is unidentified. First you claim Lloyd is scamming everyone for money, then when that fell through you lie again and say it has a Y chromosome. When that falls through you'll probably come up with some other ad hominem attack and prevent from engaging in real debate. But you're the one who's got it allllll figured out. Lloyds point is he doesn't know how the skull was formed x or y or not it's a mystery
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@MRNEWSguerillamedia I never backed off on my stance that this guy is scamming people, I just didn't think I needed to say it again because I thought it was clear how I felt about him. I work for UBC buddy! I've seen the original tests done on that skull. I've shaken the hands of the men who did it. It's a running joke around here for crying out loud. I know it's human, anyone with a brain knows it's human. But feel free to continue supporting ludicrous ideas.
@lupischuckle Which original tests is it you are referring to? Would that be the 1999 DNA testing from BOLD laboratory in Vancouver? Explain to me how these tests revealed the skull to be that of a human male? It is my understanding that 200 picograms of DNA was recovered for analysis out of the 1000 picograms needed for accurate analysis. In other words insufficient data that could not prove the Starchild to be a human male. It is also my understanding that the lab in question....
@lupischuckle continues... were capable of retrieving DNA from remains about 50 years old not 900 years old as the Starchild skull has been proven to be. Why was it that trace genetics were unable (when using advanced techniques) to retrieve nDNA and shouldn’t this have proven earlier samples were the result of contamination? How do you explain the thousands of unrecognised coherent base pairs discovered in 2010. Mutations and deformities are usually the result of a duplicated chromosome...
@lupischuckle continues... (like in Down’s Syndrome) or a single base pair that does not belong. I am a genius with a very high IQ and find it hard to believe the Starchild is a mutation or deformity. I really am getting tired of reading comments from people that clearly do not have an education and pretend to know things that they do not. I can tell by your level of writing that you are an uneducated individual. Stop lying to us I can smell BS a mile away and you’re full of it!...
@lupischuckle continues... I have read all of the official reports and have not read a single report that comes close to proving the Starchild to be human. Please include a link to official information that proves the Starchild to be human as I would love to read it. Do this for me to prove you are not full of shit and a lying pig! END
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@wlfmi Haha! "I am a genius with a very high IQ." I believe I was having a conversation here, but I appreciate your input. If you're so intelligent then you should know that I'm not going to address your questions when they are built on misinformation. BOLD data did contain the appropriate amount of PGs. I've seen it, you haven't. You obviously know I can't post the data on YouTube! It's not freely available to the public. I cannot do anything about your own lack of viable information, sorry.
@lupischuckle You obviously have nothing! You have not answered my questions regarding the Starchild skull. If you can’t give official information you could answer the questions. How could you explain the skull as deformity? To explain the skull as human why is there no official report? Lloyd has provided names of experts that examined the skull. I have checked them out they are all legitimate....
@lupischuckle continues... I have seen their reports to see that Lloyd is not deceiving us but you state that there are contradictory evidence but cannot tell us where to look. I can see right through your rubbish, give something or STFU! END
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@wlfmi Sorry, I prefer to watch you squirm instead. I just don't care about this fluff as much as you do. These kind of arguments are my way of blowing off steam. I like to rile up idiots, I know it's not noble, but it's my stress relief. I like how angry you get and I like how enthralled you are with pseudoscience. Feel free to write back angry messages about how I'm 'backing down' or 'just have nothing and am trying to sneak away' or whatever. And keep in mind where you're spending your energy
@lupischuckle I’m curious if you know how to enter into an intelligent debate? You see at no time did I think you have any information worth sharing. I know your type, you are the type of person that likes to make believe you are an intellectual but cannot back up anything you say with an intelligent argument. You think you are capable of fooling people into believing you know what you are talking but in reality only a total fool would believe you....
@wlfmi right on, I bet he's an effeminate prozac gulping obese 30 year old living in mums basement surrounded by aspartame laced sodas, cheetos and Lord of the Rings memorabilia lol
@lupischuckle continues... So continue avoiding intelligent questions and avoid providing intellectual answers and I will continue to think you are an uneducated moron. I quite enjoy writing on Youtube and don’t at any time get angry so continue trying to wind me up. I have proven to readers that you don’t know what you are talking about and are a total liar. You have proven yourself incompetent and a liar by not providing simple answers to simple questions. END
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@wlfmi You're a riot! You think I care enough about the opinion of some nutcase to go through the trouble scanning documents, uploading them and then sharing them with you. I like that, you're a hopeful nut, I'll give you that. What else do you know about me? You seem to believe in your lunacy pretty strongly, so I'm interested to find out more. Can you also explain to me why and how aliens would come to Earth? Have you been abducted? Did they probe you? Are you ok? Is 2012 for real? Bigfoot?
@lupischuckle I have found the original 1999 DNA testing report online and read through it in detail. I was correct as stated only 200 picograms out of the ideal 1000 picograms of nDNA were recovered. The DNA testing was forensic testing used to retrieve human DNA and only human DNA. Many tests were done and only one test revealed the 200 picograms of nDNA. These tests would not be accepted as scientific evidence since the results of the tests were not duplicated to determine authenticity....
@lupischuckle continues... Since no test results were able to retrieve the 200 picograms again it was most likely the result of contamination. 2003 DNA testing could not retrieve nDNA and could not find human y-chromosome. It can therefore be determined that 1999 DNA testing was unable to find human male Y-chromosomes. If you read the report as you stated you did you clearly did not understand what you were reading as you have made nothing but false statements. Nice try! END
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@wlfmi I've seen the original reports, you claim to have seen them too. Now it comes down to two parties, each claiming knowledge of the subject. I could ask you to supply me with your sources, and you could provide them with varying degrees of reliability. I've set foot in the lab though, and I know what I saw was real. I'm trying (and succeeding) to piss you off, you're trying to prove me wrong. Neither of us will relent, that much is clear. So what about bigfoot? Is he real too?
@lupischuckle I love arrogant people that just make things up and spend their time on youtube venting their inadequacy, I really do enjoy it. It's quite fun, I thought for a moment you might know somehting that I didn't but in the course of this converstion you've revealed the opposite. now I don't know that much about life as I'm only 25, but I do know that getting your jollies off youtube commenting is seriously retarded. I'd rather make videos and do my radio show spreading the truth for mine
@lupischuckle you got nothing, and as I predicted when you're challenged with information that makes yours redundant you revert to insults and dodging which makes you look like even more of a liar and an uneducated uninformed incoherent raver.
@eastwoodvincent Haha! You're a riot. "Spreading truth" is obviously not something you're well versed in. But thanks for doing exactly what you said was retarded, "getting your jollies off youtube commenting" Looks to me like your "bravo!" statement above indicates you're having a good time commenting. Welcome to the party! You should grab a drink, we'll be here for a while. Keeping idiots like you all on the leash is the easiest thing I've ever done.
@wlfmi Thanks for entering into the fay with this one mate! This lupischuckle clown was starting to get on my nerves with his lies and personal attacks. You've got it down!
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@MRNEWSguerillamedia Says that the guy who follows other peoples conversations... You totally got me! Oh, I'm ashamed now, thank you so much for setting me straight.
Holy shit wlfmi. Is this all you do? I commented on one of these Starchild videos months ago and you were flooding comment fields then with your bullshit, and you're STILL doing it today? Do you ever get laid? Or even talk to girls? Or even go outside? Or at very least, leave your fucking computer chair?
@StationaryTransient You surprise me; I thought you were an intellectual! I spend little time RESPONDING to comments made by persons on YT as I prefer to spend my time with my beautiful wife! Sorry, I’m not the nerd you think I am; I just type very fast (This should be obvious in the many mistakes I make.) I Enjoy spending a little time debating as it does change my perspective from time to time. The rest of my day is very constructive. I get up early and spend a little time on the computer....
@StationaryTransient continues.... I spend a couple of hours each day at the gym. I love to read and research and while debating discover many things I did not know before. I have friends on YT that constantly provide information that I love. I love to learn many things. I love history and regularly visit historical places. I have travelled the world, seen more and done more than most people will ever imagine. My life is great, my marriage is spectacular, I don’t hate my job,...
@StationaryTransient continues.... am a good contributor to society, am good looking, have a great physique and am very happy. It’s 10:00 now, it’s time for more coffee, I’m fully awake and am now going to spend quality time with my wife. Thanks for showing interest! END
@StationaryTransient am a good contributor to society, am good looking, have a great physique and am very happy. It’s 10:00 now, it’s time for more coffee, I’m fully awake and am now going to spend quality time with my wife. Thanks for showing interest! END
closed minds should have closed mouths...empty bottles make the loudest noise..armchair experts and people who think they are scientific always scream the loudest and are the first to say FAKE etc usually without looking at any facts as they only get in the way. you're shining examples of controlled ignorance and swallowers of dogma trained to bark "FAKE" on demand like you've been trained to. Just like all those EXPERTS who saw a platypus and kangaroo and screamed FAKE. just idiots...
@456train456 You have greatly distorted what Lloyd has said about DNA testing and have set up a straw man argument. I’ll explain: Soldiers use straw men that represent the enemy then attach the straw men. This is not a good representation of the enemy since in reality the opponent will move and fight back! You have not used what Lloyd has said in context presenting yourself with a weaker opponent that you can defeat. What Lloyd has said are not lies but conclusions drawn from evidence!
@456train456 They tested 6 times for the father DNA and it came up blank/unsuccesful, only the mother dna was able to be retrieved...
What do you think it is my friend! When one looks at history and the massive assumptions that are made from skull`s of supposed missing evolutionary links, this level of scrutiny and dismissal never occurs. Rather the opposite, with massive stories on how they lives and hunted and what they ate etc etc... Blinkered science much!
@you00t u are so absolutely right...and why evolution never became law (because even if incorrect - as us alien 'freaks' believe - according to the standards of upgrading a Theory from Law it would have been, save idiots like Train (creationists/science deniers). Similar to the Laws of physics, which are now being questioned because of advancement of quantum physics. So people like Train, are nothing but "creationists."Science is only valid when they r in the mood - not inconvienent for them..
@bigdaddyquey no, that would explain very little, as could not possibly cause the oddness, and deformity/pathology wouldnt 'mess up' and make the deformed so much better built..stronger, lighter bones, etc...plus he said he had thought of that, actually ASSUMED deformity, until realizing what he had
@TheSkepticUn everytime I look at a Lloyd pye vid you are there! Why do you attach everyone that follows Lloyd Pye. I love the work that Lloyd has produced and I am no moron! By the way I have a Genius IQ and am Highly educated as are many people that follow Lloyd pye. I just don’t get why you are so rude and insulting to us. More and more of us have discovered many truths that science does not want us to know. Watch us, we are growing in popularity and soon scientist will have to face the truth
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@wlfmi Unfortunately you do not possess the education in science that even at a cursory level, would allow you to see that this is fraudulent at best. Pye has desregarded the findings of two previous DNA tests that demonstrated that this skull's DNA was consistent with human origins. He makes claims that are ludicrous and blatantly incorrect, yet you do not even understand the science underlying this delusion of his. Where are the published conclusive findings in credible journals? FRAUD.
@TheSkepticUn I have good scientific education. Explain blatant claims made by Lloyd. Explain how DNA is proof SC is human (a scientific explanation please.) Explain what I have said that is wrong leading you to the false understanding that I do not have an education. Give me an intelligent argument please!
@TheSkepticUn You do not seem to realize, as ur are obviously uneducated, is that a position of assumed fallacy is as erroneous as one of assumed validity, and modern science has changed their automatic negation in favor of an UNKNOWN position. Having said that, ur problem is not with the validity of the data, but ur assumed starting position. You also seem not to realize that it is not that you DO NOT BELIEVE, but instead, you BELIEVE IT IS NOT. 2012, plz do remember that we all TOLD U SO!
@cruzangringa “2012, plz do remember that we all told U SO!” What do you think is going to happen in 2012? You’re another person pretending to have a PHD and an IQ 162. I simply cannot imagine any person with that level of intelligence believing something is going to happen in 2012. I’m not even going to argue against this and will just say “go away and do your research!”
@cruzangringa I’m not too sure what you’re talking about, maybe it is because I only have an IQ of 145. Much of what you write are not written very well and as so don’t make great sense. I am arguing for Lloyd Pye and think SC is not human at the very least. I believe and hope for SC to be alien or an alien human hybrid.
@wlfmi Hahaha...the last refuge of the confused...nice. The fact that you cannot grasp simple language and logic skills, is not necessarily a bad thing. Many people are more creative, than traditionally intelligent...so perhaps you should take up painting...or start a band. Again...it is simply about a postion of polarity without cause, when neutrality is needed. It is not a lack of belief, but a belief in what is lacking...very very simple.
@cruzangringa Firstly you reply to messages that are more than a month old and expect all to remember what was written. You seen to be arguing in favour of the Starchild and if this is the case I don’t understand why it is you are arguing against the person that received a personal thank you from Lloyd Pye. One can only assume that you are arguing against the Starchild project. You write badly and don’t explain yourself well and this is based on poor reading.
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@nesto1dmluv Again, what kind of goof writes in all-caps? And what are you trying to say exactly? How about you stick to trying to understand the science there Einstein? Go to university, get the degress in science, do the scientific research and then offer your comment based upon knowledge. Until then, you sound like an imbecile. So what do the DNA analyses say? How does this idea reconcile with the improbability of the concept of hybridization in the first place?
@TheSkepticUn I have actually been following the lloyd pye story for around a year now and i understand the difficulties he has had trying to get these results, you seem to be basing most of your arguments on the first DNA results that were carried out in a new unqualified lab over 10 years ago, they carried out 3 tests and, didn't use enough bone and failed to decontaminate it before the test, the second results were taken in 2003 when they couldn't recover ANY nuclear DNA
@TheSkepticUn Nuclear DNA is that which is found from the father, the way this test was run meant that if the father was human, it would have come up in this test, so unhappy with the results he has gone for a more advanced approach, which you can appreciate costs money right? So it stands to reason that it would take time to get together enough funds, but the latest results, with the highest level of equipment available conclusively show that the skull has inhuman DNA
@TheSkepticUn I don't understand why the idea of the father being from another planet is so far fetched, the differences in the shape of the skull alone suggests it is more than just a mere deformity. Also in this massive universe, it is ludicrous to think we are alone or even that we are the smartest their is, so isn't it fair to suggest that if we had been visited over the years (which many believe) that proof was bound to turn up sooner or later?
@jalidav1 i often ask rhetorically...how are beings coming here any different from columbus discovering 'The New World'? How the hell is it any different? In some cases it is fear, but in all cases extreme arrogance and conceit (and generally average or lower intelligence)
@cruzangringa Fully agree with you, people look at the idea of beings travelling across the stars and compare it's possibility with what we know about physics today, but we are just children playing in the sand when it comes to the subject in it's entirety. They can't seem to grasp that a civilisation who may be far older than us, use more than 10% of their brain to solve problems would have a completely different outlook than the tiny scope we see the universe in, because we live in a small box
@TheSkepticUn Don't get me wrong, i do understand your need to be skeptical. We are in an age where so many people are trying to do the wrong thing to better themselves through financial gain, some will do anything to earn a quick buck, but please before you shoot the man down, visit his website and take in all the information and learn the history of the skull, it is a very fascinating subject and all i ask is that you remain open minded
@jalidav1 i dont think people like him are even capable...they think they are smart, but really just smart enough to confuse themselves. He doesnt even understand a position of ambiguity or neutrality, and doesnt seem to realize that its not that he does not BELIEVE, he BELIEVES it is not...he has no clue
@cruzangringa they can't contemplate any other being living outside of that box, maybe star travel is easy to them. But like you said, people like him can't really be educated, he doesn't believe, simply because he chooses not to, like a religion and all the facts around him don't matter so he refuses to look
@jalidav1 thanks so much for ur response. Absolutely...its not the he doesnt believe, its that he believes it is not. He cannot understand the difference.
Greetings humans. We are the Iginites. In one hundred thousand years of civilization we have managed to attain a level of technology that far surpasses your own. We are actually able to bend what you call space-time to travel vast distances and we can transform energy to matter. A whole galaxy of planets is at our disposal. But what we crave the most is your primitive, dirty, disease riddled, uneducated, superstitious, idiotic women. And also we like baseball. It's kewl!
MateiAlexandruBogdan 3 weeks ago
If there are a gazillion of stars, why would Aliens come here?
Why wouldn't they? Most of them aren't habbitable right, and if they can bend space time or whatever the fuck, then why not. I gotta agree though that i get pretty pissed of when people clame Aliens have been here for certain, until the come through the clouds like in Independence day, you don't know.
But still anythings possible. ife didn't keep an open mind we would still be in medieval times
alexknaz 4 weeks ago
Pye should be ashamed of himself passing off the deformed skull of a baby as an alien.
mintwithahole 5 months ago
@mintwithahole - YOU ARE AN IDIOT!- you should be ashamed of yourself for being so ignorant.
stackingchedder1 5 months ago
@stackingchedder1 So obviously you believe in this nonsense... I dont know whether to laugh at you or send you the phone number of a good psychologist. Seriously, get real and stop wasting your time on this rubbish.
mintwithahole 5 months ago
@mintwithahole its is not a deformed baby skull, do your research. they have done dna testing on the skull last year.
inouistar 4 months ago
@mintwithahole your retarded you are the deformed one
lillette121 4 months ago
I miss paul :(
hotdaxter 6 months ago
I will gladly serve our gods the Annunaki!!!!!!
Parkerman5000 6 months ago
I'd like to kill myself if people really think it's biologically possible to create a half-human half-alien entity.
FlyingSpaghettiMoner 7 months ago
@FlyingSpaghettiMoner no ones stopping you lol
MRNEWSguerillamedia 7 months ago
@FlyingSpaghettiMoner how would you know? this could be the result of gene splicing done by an advanced alien race. or maybe are dna is as far from there's as a tiger is from a lion's because they had something to do with us in the past. im not saying i believe that at all just that anything's possible, but especially if you're dealing with an advanced species a million or more years scientifically ahead of us.
theeonionbagel 5 months ago in playlist New Creatures, Ghost and Unexplained
@theeonionbagel people who mistake the word "our" with "our" aren't worthy of input. Gene splicing?. LOL. I'm getting shitty tv reception over here, can I borrow your tinfoil hat?
iSmkoeBluntsToMyFace 4 months ago
@theeonionbagel No.
FlyingSpaghettiMoner 3 months ago
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@FlyingSpaghettiMoner "I'd like to kill myself if people really think it's biologically possible to create a half-human half-alien entity."
I think the contention is that it was done through artificial genetic manipulation, not biologically. So you're safe! :)
TheNeoamor 4 months ago
Lloyd pye is going to take over the world and crush the non believers. One day it will happen. You just wait. History books will be rewritten.
Lostmyunderwear 7 months ago 2
@dmadeira123 c´mon bitch the guy its not a punk, its professional scientist, he`s talking around scientis studies, are you scientis? no? then shut the fuck up!!!
nakebos666 9 months ago
I have so much respect for people like this. He is not afraid or shy to say what he believes. I mean, most of the people who have commented are going "wtf, dis dude iz fukd up lol" but he doesn't care. He's like "Fuck you, I'm going on TV to talk about this shit and I won't even flinch!". That's awesome.
azrazae 10 months ago 2
@azrazae I didn't hear him use the F word at all... so why don't you respect reader's of these comments and NOT use it yourself. Thank you
Kreneep1052 6 months ago
dick shit hahahaha
nnnjc1 10 months ago
@anmlmutha search star child skull
MRNEWSguerillamedia 10 months ago
Description is slightly misleading. Lloyd Pye is not a respected researcher. Most in the scientific community do not respect him, sadly.
ianman6 11 months ago
@ianman6 so wasnt most scientists
Shenmueproject 10 months ago
@Shenmueproject Huh? I don't understand what you mean.
ianman6 10 months ago
@ianman6 Einstien for example and Galileo. they were ridiculed in their time
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Nephilim.
lol pmsl listen tube the word s stiching free mason.....Nephilim was sappost to be giants im no mathmation but that skull seems ruffly same size its simple i hope Lloyd pye's telling the truth and he him self is a freemason cock guzzler
janice20uk 11 months ago
you kook listen i nearly fell for this ufo properganda... z sitchn is free mason so is his bitch boy jorden maxwell they claim they are on our side but cock guzzlering each other behined the sean!!! they just getting you use to the WORD new world order there all scum only a couple of real people like that dude from wiki links now theres a real hero all the revolutions thats happing around the world are funnded bye the same people who put these low lifes in power blah blah yada yada TRUST NO1...
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TheUndertakerSaysRIP 8 months ago
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@janice20uk prove your claim you paranoid fuck
TheUndertakerSaysRIP 8 months ago
its soo sad that just the mentioning of the word "alien" and ur labeled a kook or it gets trivialized by mentioning "little green men", theres billions of stars in a galaxy and billions of galaxies and dumbasses cant comprehend alien life or it visiting us. why do ppl get soo offended to the point that we cant have an intelligent talk about alien life.
carlosZ1981 11 months ago
@carlosZ1981 Well talking about alien life on other planets isn't really that disrespected anymore I think. Is Michio Kaku being ridiculed? No. But to say you might have found evidence on earth, now THAT is "pathetic"!!
Monscent 10 months ago
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roomgoonsProductions 1 year ago
Nephilim.
SullySallySal 1 year ago
Why no "scientific peer review"? Check this: watch?v=ePUy4npHOmQ
Simply said, due to current dogmatic science policies will not touch highly extraordinary (or "controversial") subjects.
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@wlfmi You have accused Dr. Steven Novella of being a liar and yet you have provided no evidence for how this might be the case. Slandering someone like that and not having the courage to even provide supporting documentation makes you look like a whack job who is not operating on Planet Earth. Show us all how he has lied.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi "Altenative Knowlege" is a load of BS, a term coined by whackos who pervert science so that they can use the terminology but not follow the rigours of the scientific method. In other words, it is a load of bunk used to rip people off.
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@wlfmi You say, "I’ve research the works of many scientists that do not appear in scientific journal." Why do you keep saying that you "do research"? You don't do research! You do not know the first thing about research. How on earth can you claim "I’ve research the works of many scientists that do not appear in scientific journals", when you don't know what you are talking about? Legitimate research is published in legit journals, all of which require the names of all author. Idiot.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi Where is the science to support this? If you are going to use DNA testing as grounds for evidence, then, such a test, being a scientific one, must provides results, which then must be used to support the theory SCIENTIFICALLY! This is a load of crap, not science!
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi What makes this immune from not having to exhibit evidence just like anything else that exists on Planet Earth? If you are going to use DNA testing, which is itself a scientifically-developed and supported test, then how can you possibly argue that the results should not be measured using science? You cannot cheery-pick. That is what is referred to as PSEUDOSCIENCE. In other words, quackery.
Where is the evidence that this skull is non-human?
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi If I claimed to have developed a cure for cancer and was willing to sell the cure to whomever, would society expect me to provide evidence that would have to meet the standards of science? If instead, I claimed that I used "alternative knowledge" to develop this cure, and as such, I didn't need to use science, I would be run out of town on the end of a pitch fork and rightly so! Probably prison.
This is a load of crap.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi If "Alternative knowledge is science just not popular science!", then it should be testable using scientific methods. Such "knowledge", whether or not you choose to describe it as "alternative", either exists in our accepted reality or it does not. Science measures that which exists in this reality. So, once again, where is the scientific evidence to support that this skull is non-human?
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi What makes this immune from not having to exhibit evidence just like anything else that exists on Planet Earth? If you are going to use DNA testing, which is itself a scientifically-developed and supported test, then how can you possibly argue that the results should not be measured using science? You cannot cheery-pick. That is what is referred to as PSEUDOSCIENCE. In other words, quackery.
Where is the evidence that this skull is non-human?
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi If I claimed to have developed a cure for cancer and was willing to sell the cure to whomever, would society expect me to provide evidence that would have to meet the standards of science? If instead, I claimed that I used "alternative knowledge" to develop this cure, and as such, I didn't need to use science, I would be run out of town on the end of a pitch fork and rightly so! Probably prison.
This is a load of crap.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi What does Glen W Deen have to do with this skull? Why are you referring to science but at the same time, you claim that science is not required to provide evidence that this skull is non-human?
Where is the evidence that this skull is anything but human? Why do you avoid this simple question?
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi If "Alternative knowledge is science just not popular science!", then it should be testable using scientific methods. Such "knowledge", whether or not you choose to describe it as "alternative", either exists in our accepted reality or it does not. Science measures that which exists in this reality. So, once again, where is the scientific evidence to support that this skull is non-human?
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi What does Glen W Deen have to do with this skull? Why are you referring to science but at the same time, you claim that science is not required to provide evidence that this skull is non-human?
Where is the evidence that this skull is anything but human? Why do you avoid this simple question?
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi How is it considered legitimate science, to on one hand, claim to be using DNA analysis to ascertain the origin of this skull, and yet not follow science the way scientists do? Such inconsistencies make this whole affair a joke. Science is predicated on using the scienfic method which includes not drawing conclusions before the evidence is in. Why has Pye assumed that this skull is not human, or has originas of ET, when there is absolutely no evidence to support this?
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi What does Glen W Deen have to do with this skull? Why are you referring to science but at the same time, you claim that science is not required to provide evidence that this skull is non-human?
Where is the evidence that this skull is anything but human? Why do you avoid this simple question?
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
Every scientific argument has an equally compelling scientific counter argument. One argument becomes popular belief and the other though believed by many scientists is unknown to the public and as such is alternative knowledge. CO2 emissions do not course global warming, the big bang never happened and dark energy does not exist yet this is accepted scientifically. Alternative knowledge is the science behind everything that is not accepted by the majority!
wlfmi 1 year ago
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TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi Now you are talking about Climate Change???? Are you serious? You are a whack job and you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Tell me the part about how you know anything about climate science to be able to claim that global warming does not occur and is not cuased by human activity!!
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
We have scientific proof that our sun is not a lone star. Most stars in the universe have binary or ternary companions so our sun would be odd if it did not have any companions. The observable known as precession proves that we have stars that we cannot see. Glen W Deen astrophysicist explains in his report how we have white dwarf and brown dwarf companion stars and or very close to a globular cluster. We cannot see these due to gravitational lensing. We are not alone!
wlfmi 1 year ago
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TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi You have accused Dr. Steven Novella of being a liar and yet you have provided no evidence for how this might be the case. Slandering someone like that and not having the courage to even provide supporting documentation makes you look like a whack job who is not operating on Planet Earth. Show us all how he has lied.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi If "Alternative knowledge is science just not popular science!", then it should be testable using scientific methods. Such "knowledge", whether or not you choose to describe it as "alternative", either exists in our accepted reality or it does not. Science measures that which exists in this reality. So, once again, where is the scientific evidence to support that this skull is non-human?
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
It was decided that no star can reach high enough temperature for the process of nuclear fusion to produce the heavier elements and as such it was concluded that all stars in the universe must have existed as a single star. Fred Hoyle PHD and nuclear physicists proved that one star can produce all known elements. The scientific evidence against the big bang is overwhelming but because of popular belief no one knows anything about it. Alternative knowledge is science just not popular science!
wlfmi 1 year ago
The Starchild project is not up against scientific counter arguments but is up against the 3 stages of truth. The first stage is ridiculed, the second stage is violently opposed and the third stage it is accepted as being self-evident. TheSkepticUn is a very fine example of the three stages of truth as it is clear he is in the second stage. Notice how none that argue against the Starchild do so in a calm manor but instead use ridicule before violently opposing!
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@wlfmi "Altenative Knowlege" is a load of BS, a term coined by whackos who pervert science so that they can use the terminology but not follow the rigours of the scientific method. In other words, it is a load of bunk used to rip people off.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi Where is the science to support this? If you are going to use DNA testing as grounds for evidence, then, such a test, being a scientific one, must provides results, which then must be used to support the theory SCIENTIFICALLY! This is a load of crap, not science!
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi Where is the science to support this? If you are going to use DNA testing as grounds for evidence, then, such a test, being a scientific one, must provides results, which then must be used to support the theory SCIENTIFICALLY! This is a load of crap, not science!
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi Where is the science to support this? If you are going to use DNA testing as grounds for evidence, then, such a test, being a scientific one, must provides results, which then must be used to support the theory SCIENTIFICALLY! This is a load of crap, not science!
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi What makes this immune from not having to exhibit evidence just like anything else that exists on Planet Earth? If you are going to use DNA testing, which is itself a scientifically-developed and supported test, then how can you possibly argue that the results should not be measured using science? You cannot cheery-pick. That is what is referred to as PSEUDOSCIENCE. In other words, quackery.
Where is the evidence that this skull is non-human?
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi If I claimed to have developed a cure for cancer and was willing to sell the cure to whomever, would society expect me to provide evidence that would have to meet the standards of science? If instead, I claimed that I used "alternative knowledge" to develop this cure, and as such, I didn't need to use science, I would be run out of town on the end of a pitch fork and rightly so! Probably prison.
This is a load of crap.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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Come on folks....this skull has NEVER been shown to be anything but human. If you think differently, then why has such compelling and irrefutable evidence never been published in any credible scientific journal like Science or Nature (or the hundreds of others)?? Because it is a load of crap. Some guy selling books to idiots.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn Where has the definitive proof of this completely human skull been published so we can all alert Mr. Pye and allow him to cease his wanderings? As one of those idiots, I myself would like to see what sudy has undone all the measurements and analyses that allows this anomaly to keep stumping the experts. This year's shotgun sequencing technique DID detect 265 human base pairs AND 342 base pairs entirely unknown to the NIH database. Neither human nor a load of crap, amigo.
cvisenti 1 year ago
@cvisenti May I also add that many tests were done retrieving “Strings of Starchild DNA over 3000 base pairs long.” Line in quotations are written on Lloyd Pye’s site. Most known deformities happen with a fault in only one letter being wrong out of the entire genome of 3 billion base pairs. With the current testing results on the Starchild skull we are more similar to a chimpanzee than the Starchild in fact we are more genetically similar to a banana than we are to the Starchild.
wlfmi 1 year ago
@wlfmi Yes well, you should know better than to bother some people with the facts. Makes you wonder whose books SkepticUn buys, to whom I mean no insult when I say it appears it's 2 to 1 on this issue in YouTube court. And majority rules, isn't that it?
cvisenti 1 year ago
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@wlfmi You are incorrect. Despite the propaganda, no DNA analysis has ever demonstrated that this skull is anything but human. What is the basis for assuming that an organism is another "species" (or otherwise has DNA changed) when there has never been demonstrated such an assertion? Do we also assume that pigs can fly or dogs can talk, based on the possibility that one might be able to? How about you get an education in science so that you can read the literature and understand the concepts?
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn I have written lengthy responses repeatedly on Starchild 2010 DNA results page. Please go to this page and read what I have written! Stop using straw man arguments by not twisting what I have said in an attempt to make it appear I have said something I haven’t. I have debated DNA analysis can you please use science to debate DNA tests please! A combination of 20 different deformities cannot explain the Starchild. What combination of deformities do....
wlfmi 1 year ago
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@wlfmi And I have rrpeatedly informed you that scientific findings are not published on the personal webiste of the person who stands most to gain from the findings. Rather, legitimate science is published in scientific journals that are peer-reviewed, so as to remove the conflict of interest that is obviously at the heart of this nonsense. No credible researcher would EVER report findings only on a personal website. Where is this evidence published?
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@wlfmi You claim to have "debated DNA analysis". You dont even have the slightest idea about the gentics involved, so how on earth can you debate that which you have absolutely no background in? You are a lunatic, obsessed with what is simply a cult.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn We follow alternative knowledge and less popular scientific theory. If you wish to argue against what we believe then you need to research what it is we believe and why. You’re not going to find it in scientific journals because it is not popular science. Do your research in the area you are poorly trying to debate or go away child! I’ve research the works of many scientists that do not appear in scientific journals. Starchild DNA tests are on the Internet so look for them so....
wlfmi 1 year ago
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@wlfmi The term "aletnative knowledge" is a load of crap, used why whckos to sell books to stupid, gullible people, some of whom require meds. Until such time as you or anytone else who wishes to discuss such a topic gets the prerequisite education in science, then you are just a ranting fool.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@wlfmi You say, "I’ve research the works of many scientists that do not appear in scientific journal." Why do you keep saying that you "do research"? You don't do research! You do not know the first thing about research. How on earth can you claim "I’ve research the works of many scientists that do not appear in scientific journals", when you don't know what you are talking about? Legitimate research is published inlegit jurnals, all of which require the anmes of all author. Idiot.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn that you have an idea what it is you are debating. If you are not willing to debate and just intend on using straw man arguments you are not going to accomplish anything here are you? If I’m such an obsessed nut why are you here wasting time with me and what does that say about you? END
wlfmi 1 year ago
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@wlfmi Whacko!
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn continues... you suppose explains what can be seen in the Starchild? Please examine the skull closely then give me your answer! END
wlfmi 1 year ago
Regardless of the skull or not, it doesn't change the fact that our ancient civilizations documented their history, and what was documented involved an alien race (gods) who descended upon the skies. This is virtually found in all major ancient religions, so maybe skeptics should take a trip back in time and review what was documented in those times, it is more bewildering than a skull that may or may not have alien DNA on it.
GCHILE 1 year ago
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I'm convinced this is a congenital bone deformity. Posteriorly, the cranial landmarks are intact, just altered (see styloid processes and mastoid processes for examples). The maxilla is missing as well as the zygomatic structures I suspect because of the deformity. There is no reason at this point to postulate this skull belongs to an alien life form. / please see Occum's Razor.
RyanOfTexas 1 year ago
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Oh, you want to raise money to do "research" so you can tell us more bullshit? This is ridiculous.
lupischuckle 1 year ago
@lupischuckle that's not an argument that confronts and disproves the evidence, it sounds more like an emotional response.
MRNEWSguerillamedia 1 year ago
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@MRNEWSguerillamedia You're right, because bullshit makes me emotional. DNA testing proved that the skull contained X and Y chromosomes, which is only possible when both parents are human. There's a plethora of actual, verifiable evidence that states this is a human skull, and a variety of explanations for the deformity. It's douches like this thief that purport the alien hypothesis in order to make money. Yes it makes me emotional when people tell out right lies, as it should for you as well.
lupischuckle 1 year ago
@lupischuckle and he's disproven all of the known possibilities and rational explations because it's scientifically impossible for any known disorder or deformity to have such a wide range of deformities while retaining perfect symettry. He's broke as, has been traveling the world trying to gain funding for research as he still doesn't know what it is. As a former Secret agent my guess is he could be making a hell of a lot more of a living in many different ventures but this has been entrusted.
MRNEWSguerillamedia 1 year ago
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@MRNEWSguerillamedia This is simple biology. The skull contains X and Y chromosomes, that's just plain impossible unless both parents are human. Lex parsimoniae. It takes a very simple mind to be fooled by men like him, and a complete lack of understanding of the world. Sorry to tell you, but humanity just isn't that important that some being from another world would chose Earth, of all the trillions of planets, to come and visit. I don't know why you chose to deny science and embrace lunacy.
lupischuckle 1 year ago
@lupischuckle That's a lie and you know it, they found an X but no Y chromosome the father is unidentified. First you claim Lloyd is scamming everyone for money, then when that fell through you lie again and say it has a Y chromosome. When that falls through you'll probably come up with some other ad hominem attack and prevent from engaging in real debate. But you're the one who's got it allllll figured out. Lloyds point is he doesn't know how the skull was formed x or y or not it's a mystery
MRNEWSguerillamedia 1 year ago
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@MRNEWSguerillamedia I never backed off on my stance that this guy is scamming people, I just didn't think I needed to say it again because I thought it was clear how I felt about him. I work for UBC buddy! I've seen the original tests done on that skull. I've shaken the hands of the men who did it. It's a running joke around here for crying out loud. I know it's human, anyone with a brain knows it's human. But feel free to continue supporting ludicrous ideas.
lupischuckle 1 year ago
@lupischuckle Which original tests is it you are referring to? Would that be the 1999 DNA testing from BOLD laboratory in Vancouver? Explain to me how these tests revealed the skull to be that of a human male? It is my understanding that 200 picograms of DNA was recovered for analysis out of the 1000 picograms needed for accurate analysis. In other words insufficient data that could not prove the Starchild to be a human male. It is also my understanding that the lab in question....
wlfmi 1 year ago
@lupischuckle continues... were capable of retrieving DNA from remains about 50 years old not 900 years old as the Starchild skull has been proven to be. Why was it that trace genetics were unable (when using advanced techniques) to retrieve nDNA and shouldn’t this have proven earlier samples were the result of contamination? How do you explain the thousands of unrecognised coherent base pairs discovered in 2010. Mutations and deformities are usually the result of a duplicated chromosome...
wlfmi 1 year ago
@lupischuckle continues... (like in Down’s Syndrome) or a single base pair that does not belong. I am a genius with a very high IQ and find it hard to believe the Starchild is a mutation or deformity. I really am getting tired of reading comments from people that clearly do not have an education and pretend to know things that they do not. I can tell by your level of writing that you are an uneducated individual. Stop lying to us I can smell BS a mile away and you’re full of it!...
wlfmi 1 year ago
@lupischuckle continues... I have read all of the official reports and have not read a single report that comes close to proving the Starchild to be human. Please include a link to official information that proves the Starchild to be human as I would love to read it. Do this for me to prove you are not full of shit and a lying pig! END
wlfmi 1 year ago
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@wlfmi Haha! "I am a genius with a very high IQ." I believe I was having a conversation here, but I appreciate your input. If you're so intelligent then you should know that I'm not going to address your questions when they are built on misinformation. BOLD data did contain the appropriate amount of PGs. I've seen it, you haven't. You obviously know I can't post the data on YouTube! It's not freely available to the public. I cannot do anything about your own lack of viable information, sorry.
lupischuckle 1 year ago
@lupischuckle You obviously have nothing! You have not answered my questions regarding the Starchild skull. If you can’t give official information you could answer the questions. How could you explain the skull as deformity? To explain the skull as human why is there no official report? Lloyd has provided names of experts that examined the skull. I have checked them out they are all legitimate....
wlfmi 1 year ago
@lupischuckle continues... I have seen their reports to see that Lloyd is not deceiving us but you state that there are contradictory evidence but cannot tell us where to look. I can see right through your rubbish, give something or STFU! END
wlfmi 1 year ago
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@wlfmi Sorry, I prefer to watch you squirm instead. I just don't care about this fluff as much as you do. These kind of arguments are my way of blowing off steam. I like to rile up idiots, I know it's not noble, but it's my stress relief. I like how angry you get and I like how enthralled you are with pseudoscience. Feel free to write back angry messages about how I'm 'backing down' or 'just have nothing and am trying to sneak away' or whatever. And keep in mind where you're spending your energy
lupischuckle 1 year ago
@lupischuckle I’m curious if you know how to enter into an intelligent debate? You see at no time did I think you have any information worth sharing. I know your type, you are the type of person that likes to make believe you are an intellectual but cannot back up anything you say with an intelligent argument. You think you are capable of fooling people into believing you know what you are talking but in reality only a total fool would believe you....
wlfmi 1 year ago
@wlfmi right on, I bet he's an effeminate prozac gulping obese 30 year old living in mums basement surrounded by aspartame laced sodas, cheetos and Lord of the Rings memorabilia lol
eastwoodvincent 1 year ago
@lupischuckle continues... So continue avoiding intelligent questions and avoid providing intellectual answers and I will continue to think you are an uneducated moron. I quite enjoy writing on Youtube and don’t at any time get angry so continue trying to wind me up. I have proven to readers that you don’t know what you are talking about and are a total liar. You have proven yourself incompetent and a liar by not providing simple answers to simple questions. END
wlfmi 1 year ago
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@wlfmi You're a riot! You think I care enough about the opinion of some nutcase to go through the trouble scanning documents, uploading them and then sharing them with you. I like that, you're a hopeful nut, I'll give you that. What else do you know about me? You seem to believe in your lunacy pretty strongly, so I'm interested to find out more. Can you also explain to me why and how aliens would come to Earth? Have you been abducted? Did they probe you? Are you ok? Is 2012 for real? Bigfoot?
lupischuckle 1 year ago
@lupischuckle I have found the original 1999 DNA testing report online and read through it in detail. I was correct as stated only 200 picograms out of the ideal 1000 picograms of nDNA were recovered. The DNA testing was forensic testing used to retrieve human DNA and only human DNA. Many tests were done and only one test revealed the 200 picograms of nDNA. These tests would not be accepted as scientific evidence since the results of the tests were not duplicated to determine authenticity....
wlfmi 1 year ago
@lupischuckle continues... Since no test results were able to retrieve the 200 picograms again it was most likely the result of contamination. 2003 DNA testing could not retrieve nDNA and could not find human y-chromosome. It can therefore be determined that 1999 DNA testing was unable to find human male Y-chromosomes. If you read the report as you stated you did you clearly did not understand what you were reading as you have made nothing but false statements. Nice try! END
wlfmi 1 year ago
@wlfmi that wraps it up quite nicely, lay down the facts and that's all you need to reach a conclusion. bravo!
eastwoodvincent 1 year ago
@eastwoodvincent I’ve been debating on Youtube for some time and have to say this lupischuckle is the biggest moron out of all the sceptics.
wlfmi 1 year ago
@wlfmi if not the biggest moron certainly the most arrogant one! :)
MRNEWSguerillamedia 1 year ago
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@wlfmi I've seen the original reports, you claim to have seen them too. Now it comes down to two parties, each claiming knowledge of the subject. I could ask you to supply me with your sources, and you could provide them with varying degrees of reliability. I've set foot in the lab though, and I know what I saw was real. I'm trying (and succeeding) to piss you off, you're trying to prove me wrong. Neither of us will relent, that much is clear. So what about bigfoot? Is he real too?
lupischuckle 1 year ago
@lupischuckle I love arrogant people that just make things up and spend their time on youtube venting their inadequacy, I really do enjoy it. It's quite fun, I thought for a moment you might know somehting that I didn't but in the course of this converstion you've revealed the opposite. now I don't know that much about life as I'm only 25, but I do know that getting your jollies off youtube commenting is seriously retarded. I'd rather make videos and do my radio show spreading the truth for mine
eastwoodvincent 1 year ago
@lupischuckle you got nothing, and as I predicted when you're challenged with information that makes yours redundant you revert to insults and dodging which makes you look like even more of a liar and an uneducated uninformed incoherent raver.
eastwoodvincent 1 year ago
@eastwoodvincent Haha! You're a riot. "Spreading truth" is obviously not something you're well versed in. But thanks for doing exactly what you said was retarded, "getting your jollies off youtube commenting" Looks to me like your "bravo!" statement above indicates you're having a good time commenting. Welcome to the party! You should grab a drink, we'll be here for a while. Keeping idiots like you all on the leash is the easiest thing I've ever done.
lupischuckle 1 year ago
@lupischuckle Check mate!
wlfmi 1 year ago
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@wlfmi ?
lupischuckle 1 year ago
@wlfmi Thanks for entering into the fay with this one mate! This lupischuckle clown was starting to get on my nerves with his lies and personal attacks. You've got it down!
eastwoodvincent 1 year ago
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@eastwoodvincent See! I knew I was making you mad! Know who's lying?
lupischuckle 1 year ago
@lupischuckle lol what a loser, get a life.
MRNEWSguerillamedia 1 year ago
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@MRNEWSguerillamedia Says that the guy who follows other peoples conversations... You totally got me! Oh, I'm ashamed now, thank you so much for setting me straight.
lupischuckle 1 year ago
skeptical is the position of intellect
close minded is the position of ignorance
davidkerr7 1 year ago
@davidkerr7 And close minded works in both directions. FOR SCIENCE!!!
And possibly Narnia, but that's an aside.
TheScurvyNinja 1 year ago
Holy shit wlfmi. Is this all you do? I commented on one of these Starchild videos months ago and you were flooding comment fields then with your bullshit, and you're STILL doing it today? Do you ever get laid? Or even talk to girls? Or even go outside? Or at very least, leave your fucking computer chair?
StationaryTransient 1 year ago
@StationaryTransient You surprise me; I thought you were an intellectual! I spend little time RESPONDING to comments made by persons on YT as I prefer to spend my time with my beautiful wife! Sorry, I’m not the nerd you think I am; I just type very fast (This should be obvious in the many mistakes I make.) I Enjoy spending a little time debating as it does change my perspective from time to time. The rest of my day is very constructive. I get up early and spend a little time on the computer....
wlfmi 1 year ago
@StationaryTransient continues.... I spend a couple of hours each day at the gym. I love to read and research and while debating discover many things I did not know before. I have friends on YT that constantly provide information that I love. I love to learn many things. I love history and regularly visit historical places. I have travelled the world, seen more and done more than most people will ever imagine. My life is great, my marriage is spectacular, I don’t hate my job,...
wlfmi 1 year ago
@StationaryTransient continues.... am a good contributor to society, am good looking, have a great physique and am very happy. It’s 10:00 now, it’s time for more coffee, I’m fully awake and am now going to spend quality time with my wife. Thanks for showing interest! END
wlfmi 1 year ago
@StationaryTransient am a good contributor to society, am good looking, have a great physique and am very happy. It’s 10:00 now, it’s time for more coffee, I’m fully awake and am now going to spend quality time with my wife. Thanks for showing interest! END
wlfmi 1 year ago
@wlfmi Youtube is abuse and moron central sometimes.
MRNEWSguerillamedia 1 year ago
Human-alien hybrid...well, it was found in mexico
jacobwbishop 1 year ago
@jacobwbishop nice one...:-)
cruzangringa 1 year ago
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wake up people.
CODE5030 1 year ago
Peer review or bollocks
jacksawild 1 year ago
closed minds should have closed mouths...empty bottles make the loudest noise..armchair experts and people who think they are scientific always scream the loudest and are the first to say FAKE etc usually without looking at any facts as they only get in the way. you're shining examples of controlled ignorance and swallowers of dogma trained to bark "FAKE" on demand like you've been trained to. Just like all those EXPERTS who saw a platypus and kangaroo and screamed FAKE. just idiots...
impalax327 1 year ago 15
@impalax327 Nice use of 500 characters....great analogies, also backed by factual events...
you00t 1 year ago
@impalax327 Making your point right back at you, you should consider all evidence and viewpoints before screaming "REAL".
TheScurvyNinja 1 year ago
@TheScurvyNinja GREAT response!! :-) x
1974celeste 1 year ago
Pradatuuuurr!
WolfySnackrib666 1 year ago
@456train456 You have greatly distorted what Lloyd has said about DNA testing and have set up a straw man argument. I’ll explain: Soldiers use straw men that represent the enemy then attach the straw men. This is not a good representation of the enemy since in reality the opponent will move and fight back! You have not used what Lloyd has said in context presenting yourself with a weaker opponent that you can defeat. What Lloyd has said are not lies but conclusions drawn from evidence!
wlfmi 1 year ago
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Lloyd Pye blatantly lies in this interview!
Pye said that the DNA test "established its human mother was human not"
The DNA testing was shown on a tv documentory where the DNA tester announced that only test to find out the origin of the mother was possible
so they carried out NO DNA test to establish the father's origin.
ONLY the mother's DNA was tested for....that came back as human.
No test was EVER done that concluded that the skull was not from a human father, tut tut Mr. Pye!
456train456 1 year ago
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@456train456 , opps this is what I meant to say:
Lloyd Pye blatantly lies in this interview!
Pye said that the DNA test "established its mother was human , and it's father was not..............say that again MR.Pye!! (What a liar!)
456train456 1 year ago
@456train456 They tested 6 times for the father DNA and it came up blank/unsuccesful, only the mother dna was able to be retrieved...
What do you think it is my friend! When one looks at history and the massive assumptions that are made from skull`s of supposed missing evolutionary links, this level of scrutiny and dismissal never occurs. Rather the opposite, with massive stories on how they lives and hunted and what they ate etc etc... Blinkered science much!
you00t 1 year ago
@you00t u are so absolutely right...and why evolution never became law (because even if incorrect - as us alien 'freaks' believe - according to the standards of upgrading a Theory from Law it would have been, save idiots like Train (creationists/science deniers). Similar to the Laws of physics, which are now being questioned because of advancement of quantum physics. So people like Train, are nothing but "creationists."Science is only valid when they r in the mood - not inconvienent for them..
cruzangringa 1 year ago
@456train456 u need to at least PRETEND to cite references when ur obviously bullshitting...at least make it look like u actually are serious!
cruzangringa 1 year ago
Is it possible that the Starchild is simply suffering from Progeria?
bigdaddyquey 1 year ago
@bigdaddyquey no, that would explain very little, as could not possibly cause the oddness, and deformity/pathology wouldnt 'mess up' and make the deformed so much better built..stronger, lighter bones, etc...plus he said he had thought of that, actually ASSUMED deformity, until realizing what he had
cruzangringa 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn everytime I look at a Lloyd pye vid you are there! Why do you attach everyone that follows Lloyd Pye. I love the work that Lloyd has produced and I am no moron! By the way I have a Genius IQ and am Highly educated as are many people that follow Lloyd pye. I just don’t get why you are so rude and insulting to us. More and more of us have discovered many truths that science does not want us to know. Watch us, we are growing in popularity and soon scientist will have to face the truth
wlfmi 1 year ago
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@wlfmi Unfortunately you do not possess the education in science that even at a cursory level, would allow you to see that this is fraudulent at best. Pye has desregarded the findings of two previous DNA tests that demonstrated that this skull's DNA was consistent with human origins. He makes claims that are ludicrous and blatantly incorrect, yet you do not even understand the science underlying this delusion of his. Where are the published conclusive findings in credible journals? FRAUD.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn I have good scientific education. Explain blatant claims made by Lloyd. Explain how DNA is proof SC is human (a scientific explanation please.) Explain what I have said that is wrong leading you to the false understanding that I do not have an education. Give me an intelligent argument please!
wlfmi 1 year ago
@wlfmi watch?v=moEYqLdupIA
Koppurointi 1 year ago
@wlfmi wtf? u cannot be for real...even a 7th grader knows the answer to that question...omg Aha...um, sure - your real 'educated'
cruzangringa 1 year ago
@cruzangringa “wth? U cannot be for real….even a 7th grader knows the answer to that question…omg Aha…um,”
I’m from England and 7th grader means nothing to me.
Answer to what question?
By the way I don’t speak text as no educated person would!
wlfmi 1 year ago
@wlfmi or did i misunderstand (I thought about it) did you mean SC as ONLY human? Cuz if so, sorry i bitched at you (I read urs before Skeptics...)
cruzangringa 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn You do not seem to realize, as ur are obviously uneducated, is that a position of assumed fallacy is as erroneous as one of assumed validity, and modern science has changed their automatic negation in favor of an UNKNOWN position. Having said that, ur problem is not with the validity of the data, but ur assumed starting position. You also seem not to realize that it is not that you DO NOT BELIEVE, but instead, you BELIEVE IT IS NOT. 2012, plz do remember that we all TOLD U SO!
cruzangringa 1 year ago
@cruzangringa “2012, plz do remember that we all told U SO!” What do you think is going to happen in 2012? You’re another person pretending to have a PHD and an IQ 162. I simply cannot imagine any person with that level of intelligence believing something is going to happen in 2012. I’m not even going to argue against this and will just say “go away and do your research!”
wlfmi 1 year ago
@wlfmi IQ 162 here, chapel hill PhD...and i am with him 100%
cruzangringa 1 year ago
@cruzangringa I’m not too sure what you’re talking about, maybe it is because I only have an IQ of 145. Much of what you write are not written very well and as so don’t make great sense. I am arguing for Lloyd Pye and think SC is not human at the very least. I believe and hope for SC to be alien or an alien human hybrid.
wlfmi 1 year ago
@wlfmi Hahaha...the last refuge of the confused...nice. The fact that you cannot grasp simple language and logic skills, is not necessarily a bad thing. Many people are more creative, than traditionally intelligent...so perhaps you should take up painting...or start a band. Again...it is simply about a postion of polarity without cause, when neutrality is needed. It is not a lack of belief, but a belief in what is lacking...very very simple.
cruzangringa 1 year ago
@wlfmi PS - amd why are you the only poster to not understand my very simple points? You may want to get retested...145?
cruzangringa 1 year ago
@cruzangringa Firstly you reply to messages that are more than a month old and expect all to remember what was written. You seen to be arguing in favour of the Starchild and if this is the case I don’t understand why it is you are arguing against the person that received a personal thank you from Lloyd Pye. One can only assume that you are arguing against the Starchild project. You write badly and don’t explain yourself well and this is based on poor reading.
wlfmi 1 year ago
@cruzangringa To put things more simple most of the time you're just chatting shit!
wlfmi 1 year ago
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@nesto1dmluv Again, what kind of goof writes in all-caps? And what are you trying to say exactly? How about you stick to trying to understand the science there Einstein? Go to university, get the degress in science, do the scientific research and then offer your comment based upon knowledge. Until then, you sound like an imbecile. So what do the DNA analyses say? How does this idea reconcile with the improbability of the concept of hybridization in the first place?
Your thoughts Einstein?
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn I have actually been following the lloyd pye story for around a year now and i understand the difficulties he has had trying to get these results, you seem to be basing most of your arguments on the first DNA results that were carried out in a new unqualified lab over 10 years ago, they carried out 3 tests and, didn't use enough bone and failed to decontaminate it before the test, the second results were taken in 2003 when they couldn't recover ANY nuclear DNA
jalidav1 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn Nuclear DNA is that which is found from the father, the way this test was run meant that if the father was human, it would have come up in this test, so unhappy with the results he has gone for a more advanced approach, which you can appreciate costs money right? So it stands to reason that it would take time to get together enough funds, but the latest results, with the highest level of equipment available conclusively show that the skull has inhuman DNA
jalidav1 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn I don't understand why the idea of the father being from another planet is so far fetched, the differences in the shape of the skull alone suggests it is more than just a mere deformity. Also in this massive universe, it is ludicrous to think we are alone or even that we are the smartest their is, so isn't it fair to suggest that if we had been visited over the years (which many believe) that proof was bound to turn up sooner or later?
jalidav1 1 year ago
@jalidav1 i often ask rhetorically...how are beings coming here any different from columbus discovering 'The New World'? How the hell is it any different? In some cases it is fear, but in all cases extreme arrogance and conceit (and generally average or lower intelligence)
cruzangringa 1 year ago
@cruzangringa Fully agree with you, people look at the idea of beings travelling across the stars and compare it's possibility with what we know about physics today, but we are just children playing in the sand when it comes to the subject in it's entirety. They can't seem to grasp that a civilisation who may be far older than us, use more than 10% of their brain to solve problems would have a completely different outlook than the tiny scope we see the universe in, because we live in a small box
jalidav1 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn Don't get me wrong, i do understand your need to be skeptical. We are in an age where so many people are trying to do the wrong thing to better themselves through financial gain, some will do anything to earn a quick buck, but please before you shoot the man down, visit his website and take in all the information and learn the history of the skull, it is a very fascinating subject and all i ask is that you remain open minded
jalidav1 1 year ago
@jalidav1 i dont think people like him are even capable...they think they are smart, but really just smart enough to confuse themselves. He doesnt even understand a position of ambiguity or neutrality, and doesnt seem to realize that its not that he does not BELIEVE, he BELIEVES it is not...he has no clue
cruzangringa 1 year ago
@cruzangringa they can't contemplate any other being living outside of that box, maybe star travel is easy to them. But like you said, people like him can't really be educated, he doesn't believe, simply because he chooses not to, like a religion and all the facts around him don't matter so he refuses to look
jalidav1 1 year ago
@jalidav1 thanks so much for ur response. Absolutely...its not the he doesnt believe, its that he believes it is not. He cannot understand the difference.
cruzangringa 1 year ago
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