Marijuana survives Dutch smoking ban - 1 July 2008

[GanjaMoFo]

Shit, if they let me smoke weed for the rest of my life without getting in shit, I'll never smoke another cigarette again.

[Mhzer0]

i was thinking if they decriminalize weed then there would be less drug dealing realated crimes from marijuana. Weed is healthier also. Also is more relaxing the cigarettes.

[greatestsongsofLIFE]

Fuck tobacco and MARIJUANA RULES!!! Cigarette smoke STINKS while weed smoke SMELLS GOOD!

[mikeblaze87]

at least you can still smoke bud :)

[Thebatlog]

SMOKING WEED DOES NOT CAUSE CANCER

[junaidiw0681]

Marllboro and the others cigarets pay your goverment to band weed, if they dont pay tribute they go broke coz weed you can plant weed easily its for free and very cheap, and im going to get high now peace out

[junaidiw0681]

cigarete really kills

[junaidiw0681]

Legalized Marijuana

[lvll138inrs]

why do people from latin america immigrate to america? why cant they not immigrate instead?

[SiouxSyndicate]

LEGALIZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Smoke1b420]

2nd hand smoke wont get u high, i wish...but yakki smoke makes real stoners choke when its blown in our face

[WakeUpAndLegalizeIt]

actually cannabis is PROVEN to shrink cancer tumors... it doesnt cause cancer it slows its progress, also nicotine is one of the most addictive substances (the only substance more addictive is caffeine) but THC [the active substance in cannabis] is not physically addictive at all

[WakeUpAndLegalizeIt]

and for those of you that dont know, nicotine is the active ingredient in tobacco

[AirsoftWhity65]

Its preety hard to use a bong outside.....

[caeseroct0]

Smoking and coffee go hand in hand for you. For me coffee goes in hand with coffee and not having trouble breathing.

Once again, given your username, I wonder if you are some sort of tobacco representative scouring the internet and propagating myths to ensure it is easy for addicts to continue smoking.

[franciswest1]

thats your opinion... but, to people in amsterdam they are a custom to smoking weed in a "coffeeshop". Some of the Dutch agree with it others detest it. There are also places that only sell coffee and not weed "coffee shop" (2 words and not 1) or a restaurant.

[caeseroct0]

With all due respect, I'm going to doubt the neutrality of someone whose username is "fullflavor menthol".

If you can admit cancer kills people, and tobacco causes cancer, you can surmise that tobacco kills people. You are just splitting hairs about the fact that it is the cancer that actually kills people and not the tobacco, akin to the the type of legalese argument that tobacco companies make.

[aubba]

addicted people sigh....

[ArjanTheGunslinger]

im glad to see that cigarettes are finally being taken more seriously then weed finally

[binks2413]

"second hand smoke is second hand smoke, weather it comes from a cigarette, a joint, or a fucking burning piece of paper". according to the bitches that outlawed smoking cigs in bars!

[caeseroct0]

This is actually the logical move. Tobacco kills 5.4 million people per year. Marijuana kills 0.

More places should ban tobacco smoking and less marijuana smoking!

[ThijsB91]

all these people talking about how stupid it is to mix tabaco with your weed haven't been to The Netherlands yet. In my country (The Netherlands) our weed is good enough so you will be stoned enough if you smoke your joint with tabaco. And it is a fact that if you smoke your joints with tabaco it burns better and you will get more THC in your blood. So come to my country and try a joint with tabaco and propper weed and you will stop talking about smoking only weed with no tabaco

[youarelackluster]

is that tobacco manitou or american spirit? or just some random tobacco with the usual suspects added to it?

[IAmSound7]

it's not even correct, you are allowed to mix. you are not allowed to smoke a normal tabacco cigarette.

though there are some coffeeshops that have seperate rooms. one for the mix/tabbaco smokers, one for the pure smokers.

[antiheedenrules]

PROHIBITION

[netherlanicperson19]

I remember when that happend!! it was a good and bad thing

[yaiknowscrewme]

There no reasoning with a drug addict..hope you dont get ill or mentally sick pal

[pathammond]

No reasoning with prohibitionist fools that don't understand the situation.

[bigglego]

the world is ruled by wankers.

[IdleBystander1]

I had no idea so many potheads (no offence) watched Aljazeera!

[yaiknowscrewme]

sure..because ther are red doper babies..mommy and daddy were red doper socuialist and so they teach there radical terorist loving satan offsping

[123tan123]

loving satan?? you do no how the amercan law was invented yeah?? alistiar crowley - who founded the satanic book of law while possessed in the pyramid of giza, who is also george bush's grandfather, know your knowledge before your speak

[123tan123]

instead of donwgrading comment, y not jus prove me wrong

[truthtopower80]

These bans are bullshit!

[bungholio1989]

i will move there one day

[yaiknowscrewme]

morons..pot smoke is way worse a problem in 3 times teh risk of lung disease

[goredsox04040404]

haha

[ydarbcarpentre]

Obviously you're the moron ;oD. Maybe if you had more pot smoking friends you'd realize the government is lying to you ;oD. Are you stupid enough to believe the old "reefer madness theory" that smoking weed causes insanity too? Do some more research idiot ;oD.

[yaiknowscrewme]

go get cancer..why not just jump off a building now

[ydarbcarpentre]

Don't worry, I'm not going to get mad at you for being ignorant ;oD. I suggest you watch on YouTube "Run From The Cure" though ;oD. Cause marijuana actually cures cancer ;oD.

[yaiknowscrewme]

You are a jackass..iam missing a lung because of pot..so go kill yself if you want

[ydarbcarpentre]

There's many ways to get cancer, and sometimes it just randomly shows up, so I'm sorry you choose to blame pot :oP.

[yaiknowscrewme]

Yea pal..keep saying that..maybe youll live

[123tan123]

isnt it a cure for cancer?? and if cannabis was legalised, the air at that time would prevent bare women getting breast cancer, everyone knows this

[jakechapy]

pfhh are you high? No it isnt.sure for women chances go down for men testicular and bladder cancer goes up and yes theres chemicals in cannibus that can be bad for you if you smoke to much.I call it lazy mexican sydrome.

[DogeKhan]

ur brainwashed who told you that... bush?u got american lazy syndrome go do some research

[jakechapy]

Im canadian I live around this shit.I guarantee as soon as this is legalized people will be sick of it after a month and want it ban.

[DogeKhan]

exactly!legalize(according to your theory)people get bored=people stop smoking=people dont go to prison=peoplestay as good people=No brain "cancer"...if not a normal person goes to prison and trust me after going to prison you get all the cancers in the world

[jakechapy]

thats aids dummy. how old are you?

[pathammond]

What an utterly racist statement. You sir are a pleb. Not only do you not have an argument, but you don't have the decency to admit it. Instead you wank literal about foreign folk. Idiot.

[LeftWingSoldier]

I'm a cigarette and Cannabis smoker, but I disagree with the people who say you can't have a nice joint without mixing it with tobacco. Nothing beats a joint rolled with pure Sativa imo!

And you won't have to relight your joint every 2 seconds if you grind the herb well enough than roll it tight lol.

[lukus77]

2 many fuckin mook kids out there.

'fuck tobacco, dude!'

fuck you, fuckin mook, have a gud time trying to roll a joint without it. serious fucking mooks on youtube, just full of shithead kids

[distractedbyme]

it's called rolling papers. it's blunts that require the tobacco leaf binder and wrapper of a cigar. Maybe the papers are worse than the weed itself but I don't care. That's why I use pipes. Who the hell smokes joints anymore anyways? Joints burn too quickly. Actually, tobacco tastes ten times nastier than any weed I've smoked. Weed has a very fragrant smell and a quite pleasant taste. If you think weed is nasty somethings wrong with you.

[123tan123]

huh?? u smoke it wiv tabocco?? i smoke cheese pure and lights perfectly

[123tan123]

jus cuz ppl carnt smoke, doesnt meen you have to down grade my comment, tobacco and weed is like mixing oil and water..tobacco isn't even meant to be smoked, it's originally chewed..red indians only started to smoke it cuz it hits the bloodstream quicker

[lukus77]

wtf? how u supposed to roll ur joint just pure weed! it totally wastes more money and is expensive cos ur spliff is gonna be burnt down in no time. 2 many fuckin mooks out there think this is good but its not cos u need ur backy in a j or its just nasty an u have 2 relight like every 2 seconds

[inbloom08]

Learn to roll a good joint then.

[123tan123]

pure weed burns very slow, when rolled correctly..and do you even wet your spliff?? that's called the slow burner

[BadBoyKillinOutlaw]

I smoke newports all day long...

but if i was sitting in the Netherlands, in a cafe, with some FAT BUDS burning in front of me, I would be pissed if someone was polluting the Herb Smoke with tobacco...

[ObamaVoter08]

the dutch have got it right! tobacco and alcohol are the #1 killers! why cant USA get this through their thick heads? i just dont understand it, im a USA citizen and to be honest I hate this country, the only thing good about it is the money making opportunity, but im a internet erteprenuer so that doesnt even pertain to me, as long as ive got a internet connection I get my money, Wish i could move to amsterdamn but its a bitch trying to get citizenship, oh well 90 days here I come!!

[BOBMAN1980]

An "Obama Voter" who says he hates the USA.  Way to represent, man.

[davetista]

Nice man!! Fuck tobacco, dude! weed is awesome!! I'm stoned, man!

[almdudlerholic]

haha ironic

[douchigauyo]

3500 dollars? : /

smoking in a cafe costs you 300 euros if you get caught

[sideshow419]

420 northern california grapes

[marcellaboccia]

LOVE*****

[020fox]

its a fact! Ciggarets kills, Cannabis not ! but cannabis is no money 4 capitalist countrys and marlboro is just like coca cola WORLDWIDE!

[xSammBAM]

SMOKE MORE WEED!!

You won't get cancer from it, that's for fucking sure.

[Gocavs1990]

I think you could, but it's a lot less likely.

[sketchydc]

I think its a massive conspiracy :p

everyone in amsterdam is intentionally being ironic.

[prochoicechuckles85]

Styles it is smoked from rizzla papers rather like tobacco. Believing one harms the other doesnt makes no sense whatsoever.

[stlyes]

Weed smells so such better than tobacco and i can't get cancer from just breathing in the smoke givin off by someone that is smoking weed.

[jelmerkroezen]

i am glad that i dont smoke tabacco...

i smoke pure weed for ages...

[Phyzell72]

Lets unite about this with scientific facts. For the past 30 years, Dutch has been analyzed by sociologists regarding the so called 'reefer madness' impact towards the society. And this EU ruling is try to awaken the world about the death toll created by our tabacco addiction. Shouldn't it be a 'humanitarian' wonder why cannabis use must be decriminalized and properly regulated due to the findings?

[dragonrasp]

Well it is certainly a freedom loss in a way. People can't smoke in Malls that's logical, but in a bar you want to party. I don't smoke and really hate the smell of cig smoke. It givesm e headaches sometimes if I go to a friends house and they are smoking. I don't complain about it or agree with banning smoking though. I just see it as a step in the wrong direction. Tax the snot out of it, make it brutally expensive if you want but don't say "You CAN'T do this!"

[white1whidow]

EVeryone who is having the pot vs tobacco argument. Both are really bad for ur lungs. Tobacco is addictive cannabis isnt. Cannabis is harmless if inhaled threw a vaporizers end of debate and the coffeeshops are planning to stick vaporizers on every table in the shops to promote healthier consumption of the drug.

[silverblue73]

white1whidow is right!

[shaunhoskin]

The Dutch seem to be the only ones who get it. Tobacco is worse than Pot.

[prochoicechuckles85]

One more thing- to hell with the WHO neo-Stalinist nannies. Who elected them anyway!!

[prochoicechuckles85]

Total hypocrasy. This is a law based on nothing but lies and hatred. All the so called "health benefits" the government is spewing about arent truthful they are lies. If a lie is told often enough it becomes the truth. Or at least it is reported as such.

The real truth is that this ban has had effects which were all negative- all it has brought are business closures and social division. Thats the case with the UK and no doubt itll be the same in Holland.

[pisscunt]

sweet; I saw this on BBC yesterday

[batukhan]

I'm sooo happy smoking is banned in public places. I get sick of the smoke.

You can have your freedoms, as long as you don't infringe others' freedoms.

[LipanConjures]

Your an idiot I hope you know that. Banning cigarette smoke in public places because you don't like the smell of smoke is nothing better than banning fat people from restaurants because you don't enjoy the way they look like or eat.

And also by going by your logic you are supporting pre-civil rights laws for blacks, they had to live in the gutters of our country because we didn't like the way they looked.

Good Job you win at life.

[twebb72]

Absolutely wrong. 2nd hand smoke has been proven dangerous. Viewing fat people in public doesn't pose a health risk.

[prochoicechuckles85]

Proven?? Look at the studies not funded by Big Pharma interests.

[batukhan]

You do know that smoke sticks to clothes? And when you go to a bar, you come home stinking..

I don't come back, smelling of FAT PEOPLE, after going to a fast food place.

I'd rather compare SMOKING to "spraying strangers with a perfume" or something like that.

It's not that i DON'T LIKE smoke, it's that i can do nothing about it sticking onto me, or going into my lungs.

[prochoicechuckles85]

yes you can- dont go to places where it is allowed- nuff said. We dont need nanny governments or the WHO telling us what to smell now do we??

[batukhan]

Yes, now i CAN choose between places where it is allowed, and where it is not. Before, it was allowed everywhere.

[silverblue73]

dangerous or not, smoke does not retain itself to a seat at the bar or a booth, it floats freely throughout the building, whether you wish to be awash in its order and carcinogens or not. fat people unknown to you generally don't try to sit on your lap without your permission. as for racism... all current anti-smoking laws completely disregard the smoker's skin color. pwned.

[LipanConjures]

Well, I totally didn't write that comment. Or know who did...

What the fuck, who knows my password?

[dragonrasp]

it's odd how smoking suddenly became illegal in public places in so many countries all over the world. Canada recently also passed the same rules as the Dutch. (Well... we can't smoke pot legally yet...)

It's probibly some decision made in the WTO if it has this sort of global power.

[geng92]

Ok first tobacco and weed are completely different and just because weed is illegal doesn't make it bad the nature of tobacco is worse because it does cause cancer while weed doesn't its just the nature of the plants and weed i personally think is better because its non addictive physically as well but mentally it can still be addictive though

[batukhan]

Man.... USE PUNCTUATION MARKS! I'm so sick and tired of this. Punctuation marks exist, because you can't make pauses, nor use other verbal techniques BECAUSE IT'S WRITTEN LANGUAGE!!

Read your own text, and try to understand my point.

[kawuabonga]

Marijuana is 100 better than tobacco. FACT.

[moester101]

when will tobacco be banned in the us? when fucking corporate lobbyists get out of the white house. fuck bush. OBAMA '08

[kinakona]

soon will be illegal give a fart as well...with a 100000 dollars fine for air pollution... this is all made up for people control,not cos heath concerns...

[raulitech]

hypocrisy ban tobacco but dont ban pot.

[wilfredsnipple]

Legalize freedom! Noone voted on this matter- Guaranteed. Classic example of big gov't B.S.

[eightbitgnosis]

3000 dollar fine?

[vicekartofen]

Se la vita ti inganna fatti una canna!

[muckletoon]

The coffeeshops are empty, who the hell smokes pure weed? lol

[Drurison]

everyone whos not a douchbag and doesn't contaminate weed with that dirty ass tobacco

[youarelackluster]

people who use it for health purposes might vaporize pure weed. i doubt they add tobacco to it.

[digitalstuntman]

The difference is in the relative health-risks. I cannot find one major study linking marijuana use to an increase in oncological disease, while tobacco smoking has been definitively linked with head and neck cancers. As long as alcohol is acceptable as acceptable substance, I see no reason why marijuana shouldn't be, as well: anecdotal reasoning.

[beckpod1]

legalize weed...but not the powders!

I'd trade a beer for a joint anyday!

I'm sure the liqour lobbyist would never let that happen!

Liqour if anything should be illegal.

But I'm not for making laws that take personal decissions away from Joe American.

We need a better educational system to help people make better choices.

Pot should be legal and you should be able to grow your own!

Those who are afraid of it or have bought into the propaganda will never change.

Education please!

[jpbalkenende]

Does Al Jazeera mind? We also eat pork :o

[teemuruskeepaa]

Smoking does not taste good or feel good either. It destroys your health, and only because want a status symbol to be appreciated. Fuck em norm zealots. Live your own life. Take care your health.

[MCH1984]

You want to live your own life by telling others how to behave? How silly.

[teemuruskeepaa]

No, you bloody relativist. Open your mind, bitch.

[ThePrimary]

thats backwards..heavenly muthafuckin backwards..damn thats the life ..5 grams in da coffeshop..in the streets ahh..mannn.. TELEPORT**

[EddyMcK]

Ban ciggerettes, but allow WEED? holy sh*t i love that

[Gihaal]

Ban smoke except for marijuana smoke... 'just 'cuz lol.' That makes a whole lot of sense.

[jpbalkenende]

Well the real reason is again pragmatism. Unlike some hilarious stereotypes cannabis usage isn't nearly as widespread as cigs here in the Netherlands.

[Gihaal]

Well considering the ban is on carbon monoxide in general, it seems a little hypocritical. Although I do see your point.

[jpbalkenende]

It's not a carbon monoxide ban. It's a tobacco ban. But the reason for the ban is health effects. And joints are less healthy than cigs because they generally don't have filters. I guess you could see hypocrisy in that. I wonder if weed is as addictive as tobacco though. Not sure.

[Gihaal]

It is. But cigarettes have a more chemical dependency than a mental. It should be a ban on carbon monoxide because it's the smoke people are complaining about, not the chemicals in the second hand smoke. I personally don't smoke anything, and I disagree with a ban since most test show second hand smoke has little affect on people.

[jpbalkenende]

It stinks though. Every time I go out my clothes reek of cigs I kinda hate that. Again the main reason is health effects. If there were non addictive carbon monoxide sticks by which you could kill yourselves slowly.. I don't think the gov would ban them as much as cigs because nobody would buy them.

[Robospace]

Marijuana doesn't cause lung cancer and tobacco does. End of argument.

[jpbalkenende]

Hahah yes it does. To greater extend even because joints don't have filters.

[Robospace]

Your fucking retarded. look up studies about marijuana and lung cancer. There have been NO links to lung cancer and the chemical in marijuana called CBD inhibits cancer growth. Tobacco contains additives that have radioactive isotopes in it which is why it causes cancer, dumbass.

[jpbalkenende]

I sincerely apologize now please get that sand out of your vagina.

[resistancesoldier]

They wouldnt dare outlaw weed in Amsterdam its waaaay! to lucrative most of now all their tourism money comes from the"Coffee Shop" sector in Amsterdam so yea.

[nuikaus]

What about tobacco and cigar bars? Or are there none?

[flamablesteve]

IDK about there.

but when a indoor smoking ban passed in Seattle, it instantly made tobacco and cigar bars illegal.

I was pretty pissed.

[motodude1]

I'm gonna pack a bowl in honor of the enlightened Dutch govt ;-)

[Marcella1971]

gracias♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

beijão

Marcella :)

**************

Luz Bluzzzzzzzzzz

[y2knoproblem]

Why don't they just ban ALL freedoms and liberties.  Then they can cart the Jews off to the gas chambers AGAIN.

[MCDB91390]

dont say dumb shit on youtube, it just makes you look like stupid jack ass.

[SubmarinerAndroid]

That's how it should be in America.

[scentciti]

I love it i can smell it while watching

[mutedmajority]

they only recently started mapping the brain and figuring out how it works. When they said pot kills brain cells, that was propaganda. DuPont lobbied and demonized hemp because it was competition for their product "Nylon" I can pursue happiness by the venue of my choice, and that is inalienable. Therefore the Controlled substances act is alienable.

[radicalGOD]

fantastic.......but why ban anything

[Nutrino2179]

Because Libertarianism doesn't feed anybody's power jones.

[nickvanzetti]

good! next there should be a ban on coke,pepsi and McDonalds and the like. i'm so happy!!! peace from Caracas

[hamzeeco]

that's fucking stupid,,,allowing pot,,and banning smokes!

wtf?!

it doesn't logically add up!

[curiousproclivity]

Actually it does, tobacco smoke contains radioactive isotopes of Polonium a constituent that is not in cannabis smoke.

[flamablesteve]

cigarettes contain the isotopes. that doesn't mean all tobacco does.

Cigars and pipe smoke. as well as roll-your-own cigarettes dont contain the same chemicals.

I think the anti-smoking lobby is really going the wrong way about it. Instead of stopping people from smoking where they want, they should stop the companies from adding all that crap to the cigarettes.

[curiousproclivity]

Actually it is the farming methods and heavy chemical fertilizers that degrade and attach chemically to the tobacco plant.

[goodmood102]

I LOVE POT!!!

[Organjic]

Bans are stupid.

[GodSaveThePres]

YEEEA

"THE WRONG KIND OF SMOKE" - Al Jazeera

EPIC

[Dedhedted71]

Now when is America gonna wise up?

[Nutrino2179]

DedHedTed: Not until social evolution finally frees us from the dementia seeded by the Puritans, and social policies can finally be rooted in humanist reality.

It'll likely be a long wait.

A very long wait.

I think while I'm waiting, I'll just -- roll another -- fat one... 8-)

[Dedhedted71]

Amen brother.

[jamsheehan]

Journalists don't do their jobs anymore. It's a workplace smoking ban, we have had it in Ireland since 2004.

[hozehd]

we should be more worried about banning GMO foods and Roundup. The whole world is going Nazi. were one step away from having government mandated smoke detectors in our living rooms to alert the swat team. If you think this is a good thing than I say fuck your health you don't deserve it.

[MarkG45]

Nazi I tell you! Nazi! Next thing you know, they'll make GMO cats that meow "Heil Hitler!" in their adorable squeaky voice

[Ceadem]

excuse my ignorance but how the hell are you gonna smoke a joint without tobacco?

[AMVtheburning]

Pure skunk joint, thats how.

Most people smoke it that way anyway, in Amsterdam.

[Ceadem]

that's me out for the count then

[AMVtheburning]

Yeah its called being Amsterdamged.

[vainprop]

no they dont. most tourists do it that way in amsterdam.

[Dedhedted71]

Since when does a joint contain tobacco? A joint is pot. A cigarette is tobacco.

[maofas]

It's the norm for silly euros to mix tobacco and weed.

[Ceadem]

maybe the silly yanks could legalise weed

[Drurison]

using all weed .. jesus you nether land people are so ignorant .. you have the closest to legalization in the world and you fucking ruin it by adding tobacco to your cannabis

[Ceadem]

lols at thumbs down. obviously my ignorance wasn't excused.

[Subfavscream]

Atleast when people smoke weed we all recognise its a drug that affects the mind yet people dont see people smoking tobaco as being affected by a drug

[DVincentW]

Marijuana is not harmful.

Many responsible smokers do not consider it a drug.The word 'drug', conotates control, abuse and prison, if caught without a perscription.

What do you think the American Indian smoked?

It has been demonized by irresponsible users, governments propagate it as evil.

No one has ever died from pot.

Human suffering will never go away, as long as suffering continues, some people are going to get high.

Nicotine sucks,I hate it , I want to quit.

:)

[EyesoreII]

Uh. Okay. But I don't think the case is that "marijuana is unhealthy". And if it were, it would be irrelevant, since we don't criminalize things for being unhealthy.

[Yggdrasill4]

One of the definitions for drugs:

2. A chemical substance, such as a narcotic or hallucinogen, that AFFECTS THE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM, causing changes in behavior and often addiction.

THC in Marijuana is a psychoactive compound. Drugs don't necessarily always bring an addiction. Just look at substances like piracetam, you can't get addicted to that psychoactive anymore than you can with vitamin c pills.

[flamablesteve]

idk what people you know.

The people I talk to are not that dumb.

[st4nd4u]

thats pretty insane 3500 dollars for smoking a cigarette. atleast they arent in north korea. kim jong quit smoking cigarettes and he made the whole fucking country quit. they wont fine you there... they'll just kill you haha

[johnfinbarburke]

hahaha

[vainprop]

you dont have to pay, the owner of the bar/restaurant/coffee shop must do it. and first times they get a warning, then small fines (c.a. 300 euro) and in extreme cases it will be 2400 euro (the maximum)

[wildchildplasma]

I think The duch should adopt a more confederate mold because they are beccoming too federal in there ways so much so that they get contradiction like this.

[johnfinbarburke]

true

[vainprop]

well, still beats going to an illegal war and kill 100.000's innocent men, women and childeren.

[wildchildplasma]

I don't dissagree with war but just because a buch of idiots are fighting dosent mean you can better yourselves into a confederate.

Being in holland is better than living under the BRitish empire but it still dosent mean it couldent be even better.

This is why i hate you.

[wildchildplasma]

excuse the dyslexia there.