Soundwaves and the Big Bang in the Poetic Edda - Hidden Knowledge in Old Norse Myths pt.1

[NewVinland]

Thank you so much, Lady. I always thought that these myths contained something more than the straightforward meaning. The ancients were far from being stupid.

[crobhan]

this is incredible! i have never looked at it this way, but it all makes sense! you have solved the riddles i've been studying for years. i was using all the wrong keys to decipher the myths, going in circles and never reaching the deeper meanings. thank you for sharing your knowledge, it means a great deal to me.

[Robertlynschultz]

Very nice young lady! I must say that you are hitting all "10s" with this'un! Thank you so much for your effort. Power & Light

[Membersonlyableto]

"In the beginning was the word and the word was" ---- BANG!!!

Question is who got this from who? Zoroastra > Mithras > John. Where does the Norse myth fit in?, indeed may not necessarily among these, although the re-telling by Snorri could have been influenced?. How old are the Norse people? perhaps you are at the front of the queue.

All kitted up now Milady, found an on-line Old Norse Dictionary.

[Auser001]

Great video, great approach.

The first thing I always do when I study anything, especially ancient scripts is going for the etymology.

Keep up the good work.

By the way, does Vingthor means friendly Thor?

[LadyoftheLabyrinth]

@Auser001 Thank you. :) About Vingthor, well, vínr (m.) or Vína (f) nmeans friend and vín-something means something friendly, but with the g in the end, that is, "ving", the meaning has more to do with battle or else fetters (a metaphor for divine powers) or with dedication and powerful shaking movements. The translation is thus very open for interpretation. In modern Norwegian it is always just translated as Vingtor, which would mean "winged Thor" in English, but this is probably inaccurate

[Auser001]

@LadyoftheLabyrinth I use an Old dictionary in which: vinga6r-standing in friendly relations vingan-friendship I thought it related to losing the Hammer/Lightning Bolt which is loosing power,ability to fight=friendly, pacifistic I`ve also thought of the connection to the english Wing. Suggesting 9or`s trip to Iotunheim and his flight missions (wings) to Loki in 9rymskvi6a where he`s called Ving90r Haven`t found relation to Wing in dicts so Ving90r actually means Winged Thor in modern?

[LadyoftheLabyrinth]

@Auser001 Hi! Well, the friendly meaning is not unlikely, but as said there are many possible ways of translating that name. Rudolf Simek listed the most common linguistic understanding of the name as having to do with battle, fetters or dedication. That it could mean friendly is possible. That it could be related to wings and flying is also a possibility as I see it, but I´m possibly conditioned by my own language (Norwegian) where "Vingtor" gives the impression of a Winged Thor ("vinge"=wing)

[ealaban]

Moran Tang! That was a beautiful elucidation. You should be very proud. A point on the subject you might find interesting, The Irish God whose title is the Dagda (~The Good God) had for a birth name Eochaid Ollathair which is cognizant (if not a direct translation for) Odin Alfadur (i wish there were proper scripting on this thing) in the Irish Gaelic. Perhaps the 2 cousin cultures are closer siblings than was previously thought.

[aBenDragon]

Pronouncing properly is important in all spiritual energy. The Tibetans believe their alphabet was created through vibration. I think it is very important for a person in any religion to learn the language of that religions origin. Also I believe the true history and knowledge of a people are through that cultures mythology. I really enjoyed your vid.

[Jamee43]

I really, really love it! =D I haven't heard anyone talk about the old myths like this before! I'm gonna watch your other videos right now =) And by the way, are you from scandinavia? so odd to hear someone speak english but pronaunce the norse words right :p

[LadyoftheLabyrinth]

@Jamee43 Thank you, yes, I am Norwegian. :)

[Skullfaakked]

Where did you get that translation from? Ár means year, and alda is the adjective form of alðr - age. Years were old = a long time ago/in the beginning. Where did you get the "wave" from?

[LadyoftheLabyrinth]

@Skullfaakked Ár also means "before" (in the beginning), and if that is the meaning it follows that that which was before was Alda, which means great wave. It should be in your Norse dictionary.

[LadyoftheLabyrinth]

@Skullfaakked Or to be more spesific: ár could mean "year" but is a neutral noun, whereas "alda" as an adjective form appears to be feminine, which does not make sense since it is describing a neutral noun. If alda is an adjective in this sentence, it should be describing a feminine noun, which would leave us with ár meaning "oar" (f.sg). "Old was the Oar"... However, ár can also be an adverb, meaning "early", "before", "in the beginning", leaving "alda" as the noun, which as a noun means wave.

[KillerBunny47]

@LadyoftheLabyrinth in faroese alda mean's wave, not big wave, if i was to say that, it would sound: Ein(one) stór(big) alda(wave) and ár means year, and árin means before, i just wanted to add that

[MegaMikss]

:)

[LadyoftheLabyrinth]

@ismolinnn Thanks . I think you language really is gold! Icelandic has kept many of the treasures of old, I think.

[teufelstaub]

Do you consider Audhumla to be the primordial life source then,according to your research into the Eddas?

[LadyoftheLabyrinth]

@teufelstaub Hi, thanks for nice comments! Audhumbla means "Rich Brew Ingredient" and is the first active power in the cosmic scene, defrosting the giant Bur ("Cage", "Storage Room") that was sleeping beneath the ice of Hel and at the same time nurturing Ymir (The Sound) with her milk. Because of her heat giving action from the mythical South (origin of norns, valkyrias and gods, the direction of the Well of Origin where the world tree is nourished), life comes into being or out of hibernation.

[teufelstaub]

@LadyoftheLabyrinth Thanks so much for the explanation...reminds me increasingly of Indic philosophy.Your lessons/videos are amazing and I'm working my way through them with enormous enjoyment,and learning tons with each one!I've just gotten a teach yourself Norsk kit,so the correct pronounciations are extremely helpful too.

[nazymann]

nice

[takforalt]

I am fascinated by your videos. I just so happen to have a Norse dictionary near me by E.V. Gorden and an Old Icelandic dictionary by Zoega and what you said its confirmed by them.

I hope you continue to do produce more lectures like this.

[keeelane]

this sounds very similar to what is said in ancient vedic literature, in the rig veda

"naada brahma" = the universe is sound

[LadyoftheLabyrinth]

@keeelane Yes, and the Eddas and the Vedas have many similarities when it comes to basic philosophical concepts and probably spring from the same well.

[rickbench1]

Yes! Yes! Yes! Please tell me more. I only found these videos today, but I've been searching for exactly this information since I first read the Norse myths in high school.

[DaystarDragon]

Pardon my asking, but where do you get that "ar" = "In the beginning?" This is all fascinating and I'm incorporating it into a class project, but there aren't a lot of resources for the Ancient Norse Language here in Midwest America. :P

[LadyoftheLabyrinth]

@DaystarDragon Hi! ár means "before" or "in the beginning" or "early" or "in ancient days", according to the Old Norse dictionaries that I have used. :)

[lightpyramid]

VERY, VERY informative and well stated!!! Please do some more!!!

[brotherhoodofmagni]

I think that you are doing a wonderful job and you should continue to do these videos. There are many who don't know these things and need to learn them, If you want to get in touch with me, I would be interested in being friends and hopefully having great conversations along these same lines. My actual name is Michael Norcutt, I am on Facebook and my email address if OlafOdinsson@yahoo.com I'll be looking forward to hearing from you and seeing more videos too...thank you,

Sincerely,

~Michael

[centuryflower]

Please keep doing what you are doing. I need all the information I can about this age for a novel I am writing. I have thought for a while that the names needed to be translated to understand the stories and have had a dreadful time trying to look them up. Are the names of Odin's brothers translatable? Thank you!

[LadyoftheLabyrinth]

@centuryflower Thanks! You could watch the whole series - all in my playlist at my channel or perhaps easier on theOdinMysteries channel (you find that through my channel), the translation of these names and explanations are offered in the last video, number 22. :)

[Basroil22]

Great videos!

[kaedrich]

Excellently explained and well put. Thank you! I suspected, from my translation of the Havalmal that this initial sound was the fimbulgaldr....it seems your interpretation correlates to my suspicions. At least as I am seeing it, os far.

[LadyoftheLabyrinth]

@kaedrich Yes, there are several references to "great sound", "resounding" rivers and giants or giantesses with names indicating loud sounds or having names such as Skrymir = great speaker. Hymir=Hymn (song)...The poem Hrafngaldr Odins is also known as Forspjallsljod = The Song of the First Speech....

[acerb45666555]

a Norse "bard" did exactly what a Celtic bard did. he sang everything in long historical adventurous poems that made you use youre mind and gave local news stories too! and he also was propaganda worker for the noble who was his benefactor!

[GermanicHeathen]

and out of that still disordered mass comes Wotan and his kin and these are the ordered force that created the Cosmos as we know it, can you see where i am going with this? The Voluspa (depending on how one interperts it) is the only holy scripture i have read that can actually be put in line with the science of the modern age, if you put the metaphors and the riddles together correctly.

[GermanicHeathen]

I sometimes like to think as Ymir as the chaos that existed before whatever creation event started it all and Odin and his brothers were the forces of order that eventually sorted out the Cosmos, that is looking at it from a scientific point of view. Imagine that the big bang is the collision of muspelhiem and Niflhiem and that Audhumla is the product of this (the material created in the explosion) and out of that disorder is created Ymir, a basic framework for something to exist Continued

[kalebman5000]

Thanks a lot for the video!!! Henceforth, I will endeavor to learn Old Norse, for full understanding.

[yngona]

Well done. I wrote at length on this subject in my book, _Voluspa: Seidr as Wyrd Consciousness_, directly explaining and expounding on these ideas.

[Vidarskald]

This might be a stretch but I wonder if you could take the "Big Sound" that is Ymir and see it as Big Energy. I also have a limited understanding of physics but I know the second law of thermodynamics says that all things flow toward disorder/entropy/chaos.  It takes will to reform and make something of that chaos, or great supply of energy, in Ymir's case. So then you have Odinn and his brothers (spirit, conscious intelligence and poetry (art,creativity)) making something out of this chaos.

[Vidarskald]

@Vidarskald . . . or to put this another way, they made mass (matter) out of energy. E=mc(squared). Maybe Einstein wasn't all that original. ; )

[LadyoftheLabyrinth]

@Vidarskald I absolutely agree! Einstein was great but there have been many "Einsteins" in ancient times too, I guess.

[LadyoftheLabyrinth]

@Vidarskald Yes, I think you are on to something there. After all, sound IS, essentiually, energyvibration. This great "sound" emerging from the frozen remnants of earlier worlds (NIFLHEIM) when it is stirred by the heated breath and nourishment of "the cow Audhumbla", the Wave, and the fact that a great deal of adjectives about these primeval forces include variants of "powerful" - In think the myth-makers were trying to convey a message about original energy as they perceived it...

[ufonordic1]

since being asatru since 1979 I think some of it is connected to flying saucers and space nordics rig-heimdahl creating d.n.a. of scandinavians...

[ufonordic1]

please study youtube video "semjase(english)" and youtbe channel "sukofu" pleiadian nordic humans landed their flying saucers in switzerland 1975-1984...ancient astronauts nordic giants from lyra pleiades and aldebararn.../ @ milwaukee

[ufonordic1]

5-stars! excellent job! more! more! more! (your english is a+ excellent!) / @ milwaukee

[zetetic0void]

Your talks are great ... I just discovered them yesterday and listened to them all whilst painting. I agree that mythologies contain hidden ideas(often overlooked by "experts"). In my thinking (mostly from looking into Greek mythology) I feel that the characters of the gods/goddesses contain hidden details about Reality and human consciousness (including deep meditative or entheogenically induced states). Also they may contain historical event info or Cosmological knowledge but personified.

[zetetic0void]

part2... I'm curious about your mentioning 'the big wave' because when I heard about Odin and his brothers killing Ymir and the blood flooding and killing all giants except Bergelmir and his wife, I thought of Great Flood legends which allegedly ended a great age of civilization (Atlantis). Obvious erosion around the enclosure of the Sphinx in Egypt seems to suggest water erosion and this would have been around 10500 BC. Could even the Norse myths somewhat refer to such a great cataclysm?

[LadyoftheLabyrinth]

@zetetic0void Hi! It is nice to see how this video can inspire so many thoughts. I am also interested in the water erosion of the Sphinx - it is a marvel how Egyptologists just snarl at the very thought, when the though is hard evidence...now I do not know if the Norse myths refer to such a cataclysm. it is certainly not impossible, but I think the possibilities for what they are refering to here are many, and I lean towards the Vedic connection, a metaphysical/spiritual perception of soundwaves

[zetetic0void]

@LadyoftheLabyrinth I'm starting to feel (in my vague attempts at piecing research together) that mythologies (and secretly even current mainstream religions) may contain multiple layers of hidden information. I am not expert enough to have enough grip on all of this but i am suspicious that there may be several congruent interpretations all interwoven (but also perhaps half-forgotten or altered by cultural change). Egypt, as a point source, can be controlled for political or other reason.

[nutopiansg]

goodmorning, greetings from nutopia the new civilization game,i give your work ten out of ten. This is a mastrwork of"Epic" proportions please get this into hard copy asap.YOu are absdolutely doing the right and a good thing to presesnt this on the international electronic stage.I am also working on translating the pre christian myths worlwide to reveal the historical substructure of planet earth and the cosmologies that produced the situation here.we feel the love, even at a distance.

[shamsRabytzi]

Are you familiar with Normandi Ellis's translation of the Egyptian Book of the Dead? What struck me about what you said, particularly about the significance of names beyond their identifying function, was that Normandi's translations of the hymns are prose that run into pages because she understands the old meanings encapsulated in the names of the Egyptian gods and wove that understanding into her translation making it more meaningful compared other classic translations... continued on mySpace.

[LadyoftheLabyrinth]

@shamsRabytzi I am afraid I have not read that, but I have put it on my "to do list". I saw your mail on my myspace blog, thank you! I dont use myspace that much so I just respond here. I think there is a very interesting Egyptian-Norse connection that is usually overlooked because of the Indo-European focus. To mention just one thing: The god Odin is called Fjölnir - "The One Who Is Many" - a concept identical to that found in the pantheist traditions of Egypt. Big subject for future reference

[beajoh]

Nice work. I especially like hearing your pronunciations. Thanks.

[MARI0LAND]

Very interesting! Reminds me of the concept of "Aum" in the Hindu mythology, which is also a sound connected to the creation of the universe.

[werwulf222]

Hi Lady. I watched your videos out of order, but now my goal is to write a message in Icelandic to you for each video you produce. At this point in time you have made 10 of these educational videos, so 10 messages at least, and more if you make more videos. It will take me awhile to get to Iceland and learn the language though, but it will be a good way to practice the language. I like all your videos, and I've been thinking about the Cosmic sea and mermaids for some reason.

Wassail.

[adiiz100]

in old languages every name had a meaning. in the languages spoken in my country it is stil so, the names are actual words we use every day, and names are given after much thought, it is impossible to us to ignore their meaning in any text...

[Schattenninpo]

Awesome.

Love your stuff, please do more, your insights are quite interesting!

[Helvinr]

I am loving your videos more and more! You are truely a Gydia. Please, teach us more!

[LadyoftheLabyrinth]

@Helvinr Thank you, I will! :)

[53Aubergine]

Thank you. Beautiful work. I am also looking for a source to hear recital in the old style cadence, do you know of such a thing?

[LadyoftheLabyrinth]

@53Aubergine Thank you for the compliment! :)) I am not sure what you mean - you would like to hear a recital of Old Norse poetry? I am afraid I know none for the time being (will let you know if I come across some) You are not the first to ask, maybe I shall attempt a recital myself...

[Razzziell]

Awesome! Please continue, I am so very curious as to what else you know about the Norse religion! Message me!

[odddom4]

Please please please continue! Utterly fascinating and so good to see and hear you.

[SalamanaGundi]

I want more of this! You rock! :)

[idavision]

Yes,please continue this amazing lectures. Me looking for the inne truth found this answers in the Hindu mythology and it has also the 3 main Gods creating the universe. The holy cow and many other equal methaphors to explain the creation. But I never knew that we have the well of truth hidden in the old nors myths. Im looking forward to learn more. Thank you! Student Ida

[LadyoftheLabyrinth]

@idavision Thank you for the response Ida :). Yes, there is an obvious connection with the Indian Vedas, Ymr and the Cow apparently corresponding with Aum and Vac, as well as several other mythological systems, a connection that must be reaching back thousands of years...