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  • I wish i was that chronos. I could have pwned ur as$!

  • Thank you but what is that item you just bought with the two blades called?

  • 1) everything changes when enemy is range, cuz he can harass u from far back

    2) why not buy doobringer instead frostburn ? gives u HUGE dps

  • Unfortunately, this strategy doesn't work if it's MID ONLY 1v1, which comprises most 1v1 games. Still, good guide for beta.

  • You need to understand this guide was made and filmed while the game was still in beta. I play literally thousands of beta HoN games, many of them 1v1 using this strat. I assume because this video and the guide still get hits, it must still work in theory. Beyond that...I cant help anyone with HoN any more. Check out my other vids.

  • hey um what those ur 5th item do at 3:47 asap tell me new to hon plz tell ty and if u dont know give me dota name

  • @hi123301 That was Hack&Slash, but now its "FrostBurn" It gives movement speed, agility, strength, and slows the enemy down when hit. Gives major dmg boost.

  • low

  • u totally just cant lasthit ... -.-

  • @5m4x Well he did last hit towers didn't he?

  • any decent player would pwn your ass

  • Guys This was a YEAR ago i have a NEW things for you so that it works : PLEASE READ :, or the items he buys won't work right now.. 1 ) Buy Whispering Helm 2 )Iron Buckler 3) 6 Runes of Blight 4) Courrier ( Lvl 1 do NOT upgrade yet) 5) Gloves of the Swift Then you can go to that lane, and here is what you have to do : Beat the first wave Mind control one of the second and regen your HP At level 2 : Take ADDITIONAL STATS for the armor Here is the way iam doing it right now, it works !!
  • this is a very awsome tactic if ur using it but lol if ur on the other end ur screaming (also insted of frostburn(ithink thats wat they did call it) u should get runed axe obliterating creep waves)

  • you use a lot of mods so that is a major flaw but... you have good strats!! btw whats your psr and k/d? i imagine you being like a 1.2 and 1560 psr lol

  • nice guide, i will use it right now. THANKS

  • Chronos was a huge noob though.... Seriously.. My build for chronos in that game would have been a early black legion helm and then go for the regular dps build= elder parasite, savage mace and so forth.

  • @lollerskatez1 wouldnt help a shit against this.. u won't get the farm he get and dont rush helm of the black.. No reason just a cash waste. Rush same tactic as scout but rush wingbow as fast as u can, then its EASY cuz scout misses 30% and ur getting rewind 25%.. this is 55% damage no taken from scout. WIN

  • @DJOllZon the evade% doesn't stack xD

  • Nice quide, me likes. ^^ Only thing to improve was lasthitting, i could have easily had 1/3 more gold. Still, n1

  • This Strategy is good...

    But man...

    YOU DON"T KNOW HOW TO LAST HIT AT ALL!!!

  • I could beat you with ophelia 1v1. No joke

  • not lifesteal at scout u need to take the other lifesteal that stacks with frostburn

  • @Naposk8 abysal skull?

  • @Naposk8 this is early beta. look at upload date before opening ur mouth please. at that time they stacked

  • The strat idea is pretty good and probably superior to most standard 1on1 strats. BUT.

    You were very cocky about winning that game although you did far from perfect and your opponent was far from good. You also lucked quite hard on the first two kills.

  • Bad.

  • Listen, to everyone who still watches this guide: I know its outdated but the principle still works until they change the mechanics of 1v1 games.

    I leave the hate as well as the praise comments because I think those who are able to use and abuse this game design flaw are also smart enough to know the truth.

  • @vizierfennin No, this doesnt work very well, because you always have the condition to play vs a noob, even any 1600+ would rape you using this tactic with this hero.

    Also this is not a principle, its just a picture of lameness. I guess 90% of the ppl that you played against with this tactic said " OM ", but you ignored it and switch from lane to lane.

    But well, as i said, every average player could counter it EASILY.

  • I enjoyed it :)

  • I really hope you have improved since you made this video. With all due respect it is pretty bad.

  • i believe i could even beat you with nymph 1v1

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  • This strat is easily countered with the right hero and right items. It is pretty plain that the chronos was bad. A scout tried this on me last night, but I was FA. I bought plenty of TPs and an eye right off the back. I was able to farm mid and take mid tower with my skeles faster than scout could take top. From then on I had a gold and exp lead, and just tped to harass all the time. My gold and exp lead increased, and I locked him out of this strategy. From then on I just pushed mid and won.

  • worst HON video ive ever seen

  • You win because Chronos is an idiot, look his items? Lol.. wrong upgraded boots, wrong item.. And this suck.. Witch Slayer/Pyromancer buy dust or gem.. And you're easy to kill every minute with ulti.

  • three things:

    1) You should probably try last hit more often and get gold even faster

    2) is it really that useless to get wards? (at least instead of stat point?) I think a silence before you anticipate him to use his ulti would be very nice.

    3) Get some items earlier. at least from the secret shop(s) (if there are items you need there, idk exactly) or at least courier. You were close to dying twice there.

  • the chronos u are facing sucks :S

  • well everyone knows this tactic and it works way better with maphack abd btw vs noob like this chronos you dont need any tactic but vs a good chronos you got no way to win i promise ;)

  • plz tell me wat items to buy and which one to buy first :D

  • this guide is useless against experienced players almost any str hero can tank lanes and much faster than scout in early game

  • have you ever watched the Hon:pub stomping superstars a vid by HoNLeague it seems to talk about scouts like you that are really bad and think their pro XD

  • lol dude that chronos is a noob though its not that your strat works mabye you just havnt played anyone good? like hes so bad i was watching him play

  • that chrono was a insane nap...dont be proud...and well u fucking failed with scout

    god-.- guids by naps GG

  • No Wards skilled.. no Team Play..

    Noob..

  • @MrDocey Teamplay in 1v1.. lol

  • erm i get steamboots/firesword thingy for speedboost then go for complete frostburn after that its elder parasite and brutalizer its EPIC

  • and what if chronos just keep laning and get farmed?

    u was really lucky at some times and chronos just sucked,

  • Even I don't play HoN (I play LoL ) but this was one of the best guidies of HoN I've ever seen , and you owned that chronos so hard ^^ . Was fun to watch :}

  • the guide's good, but this chronos is one of the most awful I've ever seen

  • what mode do u play when u 1v1 with this strat em?

  • BAD INFLUENCE!

  • I would say this is a great strat in a 1v1-game, i myself has met a guy who played this way although he lost. I dont see a real problem with this strat except ur itembuild, would have gone for brutalizer before sange. Maybe some lasthitting too :D

  • if chrono was smarter, he would of chronofield and ran and he would of got health items

  • u are just lucky that chronos has even less idea of how to play than you have captain autoattack

  • @KnochenMann87 lol...

  • okay? that chonos had bow idea of how to play this game. alchemist's bones??!! not even on recommended, at least not anymore. and he really didnt know what his first skill was did he? could have killed u at least twice in the begginning.. but good guide anyways.

  • dude can i have 5v5 guide pls.

  • i think that this strat has SOME merit.

    the way that he constantly keeps him opponent guessing as to his whereabouts is good.

    however, the chronos is obviously a noob and is a bad example.

    if u can show this strat working in a game where ur opponent isnt a noob then i will b more convinced

  • if you need a guide for sqout you srsly suck

  • i dont think this is a good strategy in non noob games =?

  • Im serius. GO FUCK YOURSELF!!

  • OH MY GOD!! Listen to all of u guys. You insult a person, who just wanna share his tactics with you. And if you dont like it, then tell him what he can do better in a nice way, OR SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!! BTW I think it was a rather good strat against other carriers and hereos that havent got like 1500 HP in lvl 8 or something.

  • That was a horrible guide, there was no strat. You didnt explain the strat. All you said was you were ahead in xp and gold. Scout vs. Chronos is pretty stupid because the obvious winner is chronos. Its pretty blatant that chronos is horrid. Thanks for wasting 9 minutes of my life.

  • 1. scout's an idiot, if you're going for farm it's runed axe before anything, vanish + 4 hits w/ runed = 1 dead wave of creeps

    2. chronos is an idiot as seen from his items.

    this whole guide's pretty idiotic... warbeast alone can mess up this guide

  • @aznboy666 Well, the point is the creep wave only comes every 30 sec, so even he cant force the spawns. And if he goes neutral he might miss a wave and the tower push becomes worse.

    Runed axe is more 3v3,5v5 option id say.

  • .... are you calling this a good strategy?... its a noobish, gayish, and dishonorable way of winning... like dota, if its 1v1, everybody should only be in the same lane... and maybe the one that uses chronos is a noob also...

  • good strat shitty player... you lost around 40 creep kills because you auto attacked...

  • I dont get it why people call this a noob strat, why is this a noob strat ?

    since HoN didnt design it to be only mid (yet) why is it noobish to play all 3 ?.

    Ok, you have the best one on one hero , but chronos should be able to get him .

  • how the hell do you loose a 1v1 game plaing with the best 1 on 1 hero lol :))) ... that chronos is really bad

  • @ABC10090 hey..... cronos SUCK!!!!! until he gets the right items...... not saying he is the best but the fact that the scout reced level 6 here should tell you that this is an early game...

  • when i said best 1v1 hero i was talking about mid-late game

  • @ABC10090 i know... but the poroblem is getting there

  • @ABC10090 and btw..... zephyr is the best 1v1 hero! oh no... here comes cronos with his bubble and time freeze.... oh, no wait.... he looses life even so :O

  • zephyr without his ult can't kill chronos(if your stupid enough to let him ult then thats another story) ... late game you should have more then enough lifesteel not to die before he dies (without his ult)

  • What a noob chronos :|

  • chronos was a noob , why didnt he jsut buy dust

  • so at first sure 1v1 witgh all three lanes sucks but this guide is good it is nooblike and he doesnt face chronos, chronos faces him but i wouldnt say this guys a noob cuz think about would you be able to make such an easy working Guide?

    maf Chickenwarrior

  • idiots who dont know what they are talking about: this is not em. this is normal mode.

  • rofl @ scout hat0rs

  • 1 word. NOOB

  • wowo that chronos sucked so bad

  • wow you got almost killed twice even though you outleveld him pretty soon.

    EM scout is really that easy to play?

    Cheap guide made for people who want to increase their e-peen nothing more.

    Also who plays EM anyways?

    Only reason he survives is vanish.

    No vanish = Chronos would have won because he's obviously better.

  • But.. vanish is scout's skill? if you take away scout's vanish then you're gonna have to take away one of chronos' skills lol... invalid argument imo.

  • Just telling.

    Scout is not a hero that existed in DotA.

    S2 did horribly wrong in making an hero with vanish, range attack, super strong melee attack, anti invis wards, disable.

    Thats what scout is.

    A 1v1 monster.

    Even without this strategy, all he needs is lifesteal and he's imba.

  • this worked great, i was playing vs a dark lady she could do nothing even harrassing just failed her but obviously needs update to item build, you cant afford those starting items anymore

  • dude, ur a auto-hitting noob with a nice strategy, who the hell play's 1v1's anyway? show me a 5v5 movie with u not getting raped and i might not hate you.

  • poor graphic settings

    GAMEBOY WOODEN PC:P

  • nice game play! scout did nothing player who using him did all ;)

  • noob

  • against a scout in 1v1 ? then a succubus with puzzlebox is your best freind !

  • and why did u never use your eyes to silence ?!

  • Sry but your enemy was the lowest chronoes ever seen :D Your tactic is not that bad but with scout I would recomend you to buy a rune axe so you dont gain out of mana and can creep like hell

  • arachna + eye = ownage agianst scout

  • btw chronos items are crap

  • and what are you gonna do when arachna can just kite you with web shot, i never lost 1v1 when i picked arachna ;p it is a lame hero, but easy to win with

  • null stone blade mail geo bane>arachna u just never lose with her cuz u play vs noobs i dont lose 1v1 with any hero

  • >ftShinanigan dude fck you scout rocks !!!

    >you suck you dont know how to use scout bitch fck you, your better off withyour ugly mother in rehab ..l..

  • @nicster12 You sound like a tard with 1500 psr.

  • @nicster12 REALLY STFU , i bet you are one of those that pick scout right after the 5 sec timer and KS all game long, making all 2v2 scenarios a 2v1 because you abandon your partner and only come back to finish the one with lower health, i beat your the cancer of the team and insulting like that wont make you any cooler you moron. 8/10 games there's always a scout and only 1 of them is a good one. I hope that all scout fans know that this can only work in a 1v1, so read guides for 5v5 !

  • you neve ult with scout? then why get it idiot ill pwn your scrub ass anyday

  • yes pesti would counter prty well, but scout as a base character is already fairly broken. of course agility+basher=gg. outside of a faster basher/disables.

    and playing all 3 lanes for a 1v1, and just playing cat and mouse is retarded. then it would simply be whoever farms better.

    if he was good at last hits, then he would be outfarming the time you spent not behind a tower.

    interesting idea i guess.

  • Just a question, when the guy is leaving the game and it tell you "Victory" can you leave the game or you must take down everything on the opposite side?

  • @KubsProductions yh, u can just leave the game if u want

  • Why argue about 1 vs 1? The hero with more stuns and dps can win easily. For example Succubus one of the best 1 vs 1 heros. Tempest is decent depending how you play him. Note they both have an ult that completely disables the enemy while dealing a fair amount of dmg. Succubus still has sleep and can lane easily with mana ring, while still able to harrass. Tempest summon stun hit hit hit plain simple.

  • i think one of the best to use in 1v1 is panda. hes skills go through magic resistance so that already makes him alot better in many ways..:)

  • hack and slash ROFL

    almost as bad of an item as scout is a hero

  • Fail guide is fail

  • no courrier? fail already,

    no basher? more fail.

    No fair play? failure

  • This strat is just fucking amazingly thought out, but really. I would never consider using it, its far from a fair game but i guess theres ways of countering it. 2/5

  • It works rather well, but you almost died there.. And that's a not exactly the best chronos I've seen.

    Pestilence works wonders as stated before, against this strat. A few ganks can reduce they efficiency of your farming by a great deal.. But it depends on who's at the keyboard I guess:p

    tried this myself once, worked great but felt like I was playing against the creeps and not the oposing player:)

  • What was the name of Chronos? Because I really belive it was me:P

  • @Xtas1 then i really believe you suck

  • Like I care about what you believe. Fucking retard!

  • lol wtf,

    deniss: have u ever heard of creep jacking?! frick man! obviously u havent calling it backdooring l2p if u wanna flame ppl

    RickAstleys: its a freaking 1v1 and 1v1's dont need skill they need push power which = tanking + auto attack creeps

    ravnica013: thanks for letting every1 knows that u wanna bang this guy for such a 'stupid' strategy... *cough* homo *cough*

    Geox: ur mom is cheating

  • where did u got the mod for respam timer for died?

  • I liked this vid, do some more about other heroes, perhaps one showing of some haxxor 1v1 maliken playing? (I'm not on the HoN forums at all so...). Nice vid : ]

  • fck u dude!!!

    thats an idiot way to play....

    i challenge you on 1 v 1 match w/scout!!!!

    lets see how stupid you are!!

    my HON account is:korlash013

  • this is backdoor and a noob strat for unskilled players

  • wow what a stupid way to play, 1v1 using this tatic shows no skill what so ever.

    What happened to GG's

  • w/ pesty... eye swarm flight then impale gore then impale again...

    gg

  • You guys can hate on this strat all you want, but it works, very very well.

  • @vizierfennin In EM. Where people goes to be noobs. SERIOUSLY look at that guy. Alchemist bones and ghostmarchers first? Yeah thats clever. Id rather see him build a hellflower....

  • If Chronos had any brains and wasn't so pathetic he could have beaten ur strat retardedly easy

  • this is crap,thats why scouts are so damn annoying.try playing better this is way i hate scouts.why do such a thing. this is cheating

  • wow that chronos was horrid he tries to chronosphere and kill you, when he's far below at least 5% and he doesnt try to get away and farm

  • 1v1 as Scout... zZz.. gg though

  • "Chronos will be unprepared for the huge DPS boost." => Hack 'n slash.. haha XD

    oh well, at least I understand why there's so much noobs with good K:D ratio in 1800+ games now ^^

  • Easy mode player detected. HnS is a huge dps boost in this game, watch the vid carefully, i rape him after i get hns.

  • @vizierfennin

    Is the HnS --> Flurry?

    And why no use of the whisp helm?:(

  • @vizierfennin I wonder why you didn't get runed axe. I see it as core on scout, think most people do. Seriously it gives 60+ dmg and great pushing abillities. You can be pushing all the lanes at the same time with scout. And it increases the farm insanely much too. Helm of domination is such a small item in comparison.

  • @SnoweyMan111 i think the lifesteal helps loads when farming. specially at lvl 1.

  • @DeJayHank I suppose its pretty viable with his "strat" but a lifetube gives more, its 5/sec lets pretend the base attackspeed is 1 attack/sec (because it lies around that.) 0.15*75 (here scout's base dmg is pretended to be 55 the +20 is for wispering helm)

    0.15*75=11.25hp/attack

    Its more but scout gains those 5 life all the time. And getting a runed axe would wipe those creepwaves off the planet so quickly he wouldn't even have to care about the hp.

  • zz throughout watching this i kept trying to scroll up, seems asif it could work ... To bad if you verse someone who does what you do.

  • If you play someone who is trying to mirror your strat, you do it better because you run faster than anyone else and have one of the top DPS in the game.

  • This cant work against any anti-scout..

    Pyromancer or w/e would totally own you no matter what unless you have luck with finding a noob pyro.

  • Pyro is a horrid 1v1 hero, and he is certainly not anti scout. Also he fights for the legion, so you wont ever face him. As far as I know there arent any anti scout heroes and I have played literally hundreds of 1v1 games using this strat.

  • "All Heroes" is normally on when I play, cuz leaving it off is just noobish imo..

    I agree that this strat has potential, but whenever I pick pyromancer vs scout, I just hunt him as soon im lvl 6. scout is an ezz kill with ulti, and the cd is only like 60-80 sec.

    If you go for war-pyro, he is a very good assist-carry, since he's dmg is just insane and you dont even have to buy attack speed.

  • Pyros problem is hes pointless after lvl 8, Theres no way a scout using this strat is going to let himself be ganked by pyro. Pyro disappears from his lane on the mini map you know know it wayyyy before he can get to you. l2think imo.

  • well yeah its true that the strat will work, and I tested it aswell, but if its only mid, you gotta admit im right :)

  • @vizierfennin *Cough* *cough* stormspirit/codex... Scout doesn't get health items because they're just not usefull.

  • Man that chronos is noob :P

    Anyway this worked really well for me until I vsed a pro... playing soulstealer.

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