@MrASSYRIANKINGS idiot assyrian you coward & low level (Subartu was apparently a polity in Northern Mesopotamia, at the upper Tigris,in the general sphere of influence of the Hurrians. Its precise location has not been identified.According to some scholars like Harvard Professor Mehrdad Izady, identifies Subartus with the current Kurdish tribe of Zibaris inhabiting the northern ring around Mosul up to Hakkari in TurkeySubartu marked the northern geographical horizon,just as Martu,Elam and Sumer)
@volkanozadayou idiot turkman dirty gypsy , you gypsy mongols(The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th &11th centuries AD Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China & Inner Mongolia)
@volkanozada best thing is that to remember you is that turk are mongols(the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD (the Early Middle Ages). Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia)
725 - 735 yılları arasında ilk Türk alfabesi yazılmıştır. Bu yazının Türkler tarafından eski zamandan beri kullanıldığı anlaşılıyor fakat ne kadar eski olduğu kesin olarak çıkarılan gümüş bir tabağın üzerinde bulunan iki satırlık Orhun Harfleriyle yazılmış yazı, öz be öz Türk alfabesinden oluşan bu yazının M.Ö. 5. yüzyıldan itibaren kullanıldığı tespit edilmiştir.
@volkanozada ungly mongols face(The population ancestral to the Turkic language speakers is thought to have been included in the Xiongnu of Mongolia or along the upper Yenisei in Siberia known from historical sources. The Han Dynasty chronicle of the Xiong-nu, included in the Shi Ji, traces a legendary history of them back a thousand years before the Han to a legendary ancestor, Chunwei, a supposed descendant of the Chinese rulers of the Xia Dynasty.[ He lived among the "Mountain Barbarians" )
@volkanozada turk are mongols stupid(The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD (the Early Middle Ages)Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns.Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia)
@volkanozada fuck off little mongols ftupid go and fuck your mom dick sucker motherfucker lick my penis...İDİOT (volkanozada ) you mongols (number of tribes and geographic groups, not all of which were probably Turkic (considering the later mixed ethnicity). The Shi Ji mentions the Mianshu,, Wiezhi and Quyan north of the Qi and Liang mountains and Jing and Qi Rivers; the Forest Barbarians and Loufan north of Jin and the Eastern Barbarians and Mountain Barbarians north of Yan
@volkanozada GORAN FUCK YOUR MOTHER FUCKER,you are bastard donkey mongols ancestor,go search you father real you dont know how was your greadfather,lol you mongols you must go to north gread wall or inner mongolia,or may son of those childs whom the ottmani stole him from him father in balkan or inrussia,at all your lineage didn't known simply you bastard,& that npo matter for you cause all same kind not one better than other first onr (Atadog) was jewish slaink bastard my his father was Greek
@volkanozada GORAN FUCK YOUR MOTHER FUCKER,you are bastard donkey mongols ancestor,go search you father real you dont know how was your greadfather,lol you mongols you must go to north gread wall or inner mongolia,or may son of those childs whom the ottmani stole him from him father in balkan or inrussia,at all your lineage didn't known simply you bastard,& that npo matter for you cause all same kind not one better than other first onr (Atadog) was jewish slaink bastard my his father was Greek
@volkanozada fuck you and fuck ASSyrian and fuck turk mongols &arab idiot you son of whore ,(Rawlinson was surprised during his research to discover that the founders of the Mesopotamian civilization were of Kushite origin.He made it clear that the Semitic speakers of Akkad & the nonSemitic speakers of Sumer were both Black or Negro people who called themselves sag-gig-ga In Rawlinson s day the Sumerian people were recognized as Akkadian,while the Semitic speaking blacks were called Assyrians)
@MrASSYRIANKINGS FUCK OFF ASSyrian negro(As result, Rawlinson was surprised during his research to discover that the founders of the Mesopotamian civilization were of Kushite origin. He made it clear that the Semitic speakers of Akkad and the non-Semitic speakers of Sumer were both Black or Negro people who called themselves sag-gig-ga “Black Headsâ€. In Rawlinson’s day the Sumerian people were recognized as Akkadian or Chaldean, while the Semitic speaking blacks were called Assyrians)
I'll start by correcting you info, 1-Arminians are Christians but not ethnically semetics so they have no connection to Assyrians or Chaldeans, 2- The tern Syriac it came from the word Suryaya (it is written with a silent A like this Asuryaya) and that is how the Greeks referred to the Assyrians at the time of the Byzantine. Go on the web and see for your self. Some of major Assyrian political leaders and parties are Syriac and Chaldeans which make no deferent to us because we're all one PEOPLE.
I don't no you or who is putting up for this, but regardless Assyrians, Chaldean and Syriac are the names of the same people history have proven that and if you are at any level of education you can check that out for your self and you don't need my help. On the other hand The Kurdish people that came from Uzbekistan and occupied the land of the Assyrians, Chaldean and Syriac with the help of the Mongolians and Tatars shouldn't get involved in other peoples affairs.
@Ahridium777 fuck off little ASSyrian .nowadays dont mean any thing cause the ASSyrian extibct with fall of nenivah in 612 BC(The fall of Nineveh shocked the ancient world. The Jewish prophet Nahum described the Median armies advancing to the city that had once ruled the Near East.
@goran21715 i again ask you bastard to proove me were kurdistan is as land you land stealers, tell me were in mesopotamia witch is beth nahrin is kurdistan show me and dont speak with me like a donkey bastard!
@Ahridium777 donkey ASSyrian and bastard idiot Kurdistan or kurd derived from Gutian , or Guti or kurdi (Gutian is same of khurrti or khuti or khudi or kurdi , all these same thing it chang in utter acording to nation around kurd like egyptian and sumerian& ugharite and Elamite. ancient HURRIAN (KURDIAN) WAS FROM MEDDETERNIAN SEA TO CASPIAN SEA IN EAST &FROM HIGHLAND OF ARARAT TO STRAITE'S HURMIZ OG GULF you can see map of Akkadian empire in Akkadian encyclopedia or in hurrian encyclopedia
@Ahridium777 kurdistan hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahashahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.there is no such thing, no such thing ...dream on.
@volkanozada TURK hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahashahhaahahahaha-hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
lol the turk are mongols(). The Shi Ji mentions the Mianshu, Hunrong and Diyuan west of Long; the Yiqu, Dali, Wiezhi and Quyan north of the Qi and Liang mountains and Jing and Qi Rivers; the Forest Barbarians and Loufan north of Jin and the Eastern Barbarians and Mountain Barbarians north of Yan. Later the treatise mentions others.)
@volkanozada turkwoman, the turk are mongols(The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia. )
@volkanozada The earliest written evidence for an Indo-Aryan language is found not in India, but in northern Syria in Hittite records regarding one of their neighbors, the Hurrian-speaking Mitanni. In a treaty with the Hittites, the king of Mitanni, after swearing by a series of Hurrian gods, swears by the gods Mitrašil, Uruvanaššil, Indara, and Našatianna, who correspond to the Vedic gods Mitra, Varuṇa, Indra, and Nāsatya (Aśvin). Contemporary equestrian terminology it in north Kurdistan
@volkanozada Lullubi,ancient group of tribes that inhabited the Sherizor plain in the Zagros Mountains . A warlike people, they were especially active during the reign of the Akkadian king Naram-Sin (reigned c. 2254–c. 2218 bc)&at the end of the dynasty of Akkad (2334–2154 bc)The Lullubi were apparently subjugated by Naram-Sin,who commemorated his triumph on a masterpiece of Mesopotamian sculpture,the Naram-Sin stele;the tribes Later overshadowed by their more powerful neighbours, ...
@volkanozada Sar-e Pol-e Zahab (“Sarpol”) is an Iranian town, not far from the Iraqi border, with no particular claim to fame, although you may have heard the name during the final stages of the First Gulf War, as one of the places during Iran’s 1988 counteroffensive against the Mujahedin-e Khalq. I would never have gone there, had it not been for five small, ancient rock reliefs.
@volkanozada The Anubanini reliefThe youngest one was made during the reign of the Parthian king Gotarzes I or II,& shows a satrap doing obeisance to his king. It is about twenty centuries younger than the four other reliefs,which commemorate the investitures of four kings of Lullubi.This state was more or less identical to the valley of the river Diyala,north of Baghdad; the kings of Akkad (2335-2154)&the Third Dynasty of Ur (2112-2004) had to fight against the Lullubians on several occasions
@volkanozada kurdistan hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahashahhaahahahaha-hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. WE LIVE IN KURDISTAN,we live in freedom more than all lslamic country . peoples realy live in democracy and freedom ,we see forign peoples and tourest very happy , they see him homeland ,homeland of aryan , they see real aryan tradation and aryan cultuer and ancient mithra religion in IZDY TEMPLE,evry day many Germen group visit Mithra temple , you poor mongols idiot
@volkanozada an Indo-Aryan presence the peacock motif found in the Middle East from before 1600 BC and quite likely from before 2100 BC.
In contrast, most scholars reject the possibility that the Indo-Aryans of Mitanni came from the Indian subcontinent as well as the possibility that the Indo-Aryans of the Indian subcontinent came from the territory of Mitanni, leaving migration from the north the only likely scenario.[60] The presence of some BMAC loan words in Mitanni,
@Ahridium777 Approximately 4,000 years ago, the first groups of Indo-European-speaking peoples started trickling into Kurdistan. These groups included the Medes, Mitanni, Scythians and Sagarthians and other Indo-European-speaking Aryans who settled in Kurdistan. Approximately 2,600 years ago, the Medes had already formed an empire that included much of what is today Kurdistan and beyond.
@Ahridium777 FUCK OFF ASSyrian idiot (According to some scholars like Harvard Professor Mehrdad Izady,identifies Subartus with the current Kurdish tribe of Zibaris inhabiting the northern ring around Mosul up to Hakkari in Turkey.From the point of view of the Akkadian Empire,Subartu marked the northern geographical horizon,just as Martu,Elam &Sumer marked "west,"east &"south",respectively)where bull shit in this early time in around sumernianThey was north babylion to highland of ararat mountian
@goran21715 i again ask you bastard to proove me were kurdistan is as land you land stealers, tell me were in mesopotamia witch is beth nahrin is kurdistan show me and dont speak with me like a donkey bastard!
@2012atra Subartu was apparently a polity in Northern Mesopotamia, at the upper Tigris, in the general sphere of influence of the Hurrians. Its precise location has not been identified. According to some scholars like Harvard Professor Mehrdad Izady,identifies Subartus with the current Kurdish tribe of Zibaris inhabiting the northern ring around Mosul up to Hakkari in Turkey.From the point of view of the Akkadian Empire,Subartu marked the northern geographical horizon,just as Martu, Elam &Sumer
Assyrian fagets are trying make problem between Kurds, Chaldeans and Syriacs! They are American/Saddam ass lickers, they should be expelled to Europe with Jews.
@KingAshurbanipal Arbil Urban life at Arbil can be dated back to at least 6000 BC& it is one of the oldest continuously inhabited cities in the world.At the heart of the city is the ancient Citadel of Arbil.The Hurrians were the first to establish Urbilum&expand their rule to the rest of Northern Mesopotamia.Afterwards,stupid why ottmani dont brought mongols instead of kurdish,indeed the ASSyrian negro bedouin tribes invasion Hurrian-Subartuian land in 2500BC,Kurd base of mesopotamia civilation
MATE YOU ARE REALLY WRONG CHALDEAN "FAKE NAME" MOST OF YOUR CHALDEAN WORDS YOU STOLE ARE ARABIC AND KURDISH AND A BIT OF ASSYRIAN, AND TURKISH TOO.
BUT LET ME TELL YOU ASSYRIANS DO USE PERSIAN WORDS BUT ALSO USE ARMENIAN WORDS TOO BECAUSE ARMENIANS AND ASSYRIANS HAVE BEEN BROTHERS SINCE 1300 AD AND SINCE WE WERE VERY CLOSE WE DID ADOPT A LITTLE ARMENIAN, BUT CHALDEANS "FAKE NAME" STOLE WORDS FROM ASSYRIANS, TURKISH, ARABIC, ARMENIAN, KURDISH. CHALDEANS STOLE FROM ALMOST 5 EHNIC LANGUAGES FAKE
@Ahridium777 The Sumerian mythological epic Enmerkar and the Lord of Aratta lists the countries where the "languages are confused" as Subartu, Hamazi, Sumer, Uri-ki (Akkad), and the Martu land (the Amorites). Similarly, the earliest references to the "four quarters" by the kings of Akkad name Subartu as one of these quarters around Akkad, along with Martu, Elam, and Sumer. Subartu in the earliest texts seem to have been farming mountain dwellers
PRODUCER OF THIS VIDEO IS VERY STUPID THAT HE DOESNT KNOW ( CHANTA IS ACTUALLY TURKISH AND NOT ARABIC ) THE ARABS USE THAT WORD BECAUSE THEY WERE OCCUPIED BY THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE SO GET UR FUCKING FACTS RIGHT BUDDY BEFORE MAKING UP SHIT.
@G33KN3rd fuck off idiot there wasn't arab exsist in that time , arab are bedouin first meantion with lslam invasion in 6th AD century , l never seen idiot like arab they appear in 5th ADcentury and the other nation like akkadian and sumerian and Elamite was borrow words from arab , what this foolish you live bedouin , if arab was so intelligent they was built house for himself and don't dwelt in tent, and live like dog in desert. lol arab absent in stage of yhistory till lslam era
@goran21715 yes there was and don't swear at me little boy, im ten times smarter than you and you know it, hostility is a sign of weak intellect. KURDS didn't exist until the 1200s A.D.
@G33KN3rd who are you retard and stupid to claim you are stupid or idiot what you know , kurd more smarter than you and your father too , from which desert you bedouin kurd esist befor sumerian foolish the GUTIAN dwelt in 3rd millennium in med-euphrat , and even Sargon off akkad was his father Guti the Gutian (sources give the region between the Tigris and the Zagros Mountains as the home of the Gutians, these people probably also lived on the middle Euphrates during the 3rd millennium)
@G33KN3rd stupid the Medes was six tribes(1.The Busae group 2.The second group is called the Paraetaceni, 3The third group is called Strukhat 4.The fourth group is the Arizant 5.The fifth group were the Budii 6.The sixth tribe were the Magi...
lol Medes was one off may kin tribes (Hurrti ,Guti, Lullubi .Subartu , Khamzi and Kassite )
that Gutium or Guti, the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language, which was also spoken by their kin of Subartu, Lulu, Kassite, and Mittani
@G33KN3rd The region of Mahabad was the centre of the Mannaeans, who flourished in the early 1st millennium BC.Approximately 4,000 years ago, the first groups of Indo-European-speaking peoples started trickling into Kurdistan. These groups included the Medes, Mitanni, Scythians and Sagarthians and other Indo-European-speaking Aryans who settled in Kurdistan. Approximately 2,600 years ago, the Medes had already formed an empire that included much of what is today Kurdistan and beyond.
@G33KN3rd Hamazi held hegemony over Sumer after defeating Kish,but was in turn defeated by Enshakushanna of Uruk.Subartu other tribes on ancient kurdish ancestoe and Guti tribes thom they fall Akkadian empire2212BC -2000B.C &ruled mesopotamia they expension empire to ELAM &other tribes ruled mesopotamia was Kassite from 1700 BC -1100 BC and other forefather of KURD was Metanni whom they expension from anatolia to syria to babylon they leave scriptioncly tablet in aryan language 1700BC-1500BC,
@G33KN3rd the Mitanni Dynasty controlled trade routes down the Habur to Mari and up the Euphrates from to Carchemish. They also controlled the upper Tigris Mukish, which stretched between Ugarit and Quatna west of the Orontes to the sea, and the Niya which controlled the east bank of the Orontes from Alalah down through Aleppo, Ebla and Hama to Quatna and Kadesh. To the east the Mitanni had good relations with the Hurrian-speaking Kassites whose territory corresponds to present-day Kurdistan.
@G33KN3rd lol language is kurdish( theonyms,proper names & other terminology of the Mitanni exhibit an Indo-Aryan superstrate,suggesting that an Indo-Aryan elite imposed itself over the Hurrian population in the course of the Indo-Aryan expansion.
In a treaty between the Hittites and the Mitanni the deities Mitra, Varuna, Indra, Kikkuli's horse training text 1400 BC includes technical terms such as aika (eka, one), tera (tri, three), panza (pancha, five), satta (sapta, seven), na (nava, nine)
@G33KN3rd animal the clay tablet inscription in kurdish l understand it and all lranian too, all l mention they was kin tribes , you stupid dont read it not mean its non exsistance (text (circa 1400 BC) includes technical terms such as aika (eka, one), tera (tri, three), panza (pancha, five), satta (sapta, seven),na (nava, nine),, stupid it kurdish eka meaning one try or siy is 3.,, 9 nu or na go learn kurdish &came argue me,its not like assyrian,no assyrian can understand assyrian inscription
@G33KN3rd Zagros highlands which is the original dwelling of the ancient Kurds who were the native inhabitants of the area long before the migration of the other races and tribes.In an article published in Kurdistan Times in its issue of winter1990,Mr.Mustafa Qaradaghi states that Gutium or Guti,the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language,which was also spoken by their kin of Subartu,Lulu,Kassite,&Mittani.Their capital city was in &around the town of Kirkuk,named Arrapha"Mazouri2002
@G33KN3rd Not only was Gutium located within the modern Kurdistan. The very name 'Kurd' itself has been viewed by scholars as being merely a corruption of the ancient Iranic word 'Guti'.Thus, Prof.Howorth concurs with the derivation of Kurdistan from Gutium, & identifies the ancient Babylonian term for Kurds,'Khuradi'or 'Quradu,'with 'Guti':"The land of Guti answers in substance&perhaps also in name, to the modern Kurdistan. According to Sayce the name Kurd is derived from the Babylonian quradu
@G33KN3rd scholars as being merely a corruption of the ancient Iranic word 'Guti'. Thus, Prof. Howorth concurs with the derivation of Kurdistan from Gutium, and identifies the ancient Babylonian term for Kurds, 'Khuradi' or 'Quradu,' with 'Guti':"The land of Guti answers in substance& perhaps also in name, to the modern Kurdistan. According to Sayce the name Kurd is derived from the Babylonian quradu,'a warrior,'a word which was borrowed by the people of Van. In the forms of 'khuradi' & 'quradu'
@G33KN3rd The name Guti, at any rate,survives today clearly in the name of the Kurdish clan of Judikan, inhabiting the heartland of the ancient Gutis in southeatern Kurdistan. The "Kardukhoi"who come to subsequently be known as the Gordyene to the classical authors, are none other than the predecessors of modern Girdi clan of Kurds who still reside exactly where the ancient Kardukhoi/Godyene were found.The name "Kurti/Kurd"seem likely to be of Aryan origin*one of the first,in fact, in Kurdistan*
@G33KN3rd The Gutians overthrew the Akkadian dynasty, liberating the Sumerians from the Semitic yoke.The attempt by the fanatical Akkadian rulers to suppress the Sumerian language were rolled back,&a Sumerian renaissance occurred under benevolent Guti rule.Describing the Sumerian revival under the Guti,Badawy notes,The Akkadian dynasty (2350-2150 BC) marked a decisive phase in the Semitization of Mesopotamia,a process which went on in spite of the renascence of Sumerian under the Gutians 2000 BC
@G33KN3rd . Gutium (Qutium), situated in Western Iran, is mentioned already in the presargonic period in a document ( 2500 B.C.)The fact that the Guti belonged to the proto-Iranians,is confirmed by their language, which is attested mainly by personal names. According to them the Guti spoke an Indo-European language,which was close to the TokharianThe relation between the Tokharian and the Aryan is corroborated by linguistic remnants in Tokharian& the grammatical parallels between both languages
which means if they are the closest to the assyrians by dna what does that mean u fools?intermarriage read the posts do your researchyou will find this to be very true
some of you are too funny and i am a indian muslim but both my forefathers are from iraq and both looked like semitic people not aryan i am brown but my forefather from mosul was very fair straight nose bridge and arched eyebrows and my forefather from baghdad was a dusky color with curly black hair
However, it soon became apparent that the CMH is not specific to Jews or descendants of Jews. In a 1998 article in Science News, Dr. Skorecki indicated (in an interview) that some non-Jews also possess the Cohen markers, and that the markers are therefore not "unique or special".(((((( The CMH is very common among Iraqi Kurds, according to a 1999 study by C. Brinkmann et al.))))))))))
In 729 B.C. Babylonia was taken by the Assyrians and, with a few brief interludes, remained dependent for a century. A revolt against Assyrian domination flared up in 626, headed by Nabopolassar, who had been appointed governor of the southern part of the country. Nabopolassar revitalized the traditional alliance of the Chaldean tribes of southern Babylonia with Elam
In November, 626, he was crowned in Babylon, thereby founding the Chaldean, or Neo-Babylonian, dynasty. There followed a protracted war between Babylonia and Assyria, with the advantage shifting from one side to the other and back again. No clear result emerged until 614, when Assyria was attacked by the Medes.
The Medes, under their king Cyaxares, first seized the Assyrian province of Arrapha. Then, in the autumn of the same year, and after a fierce battle, they gained control of Assyria’s ancient capital, Assur. Nabopolassar brought his Babylonian army and joined the Medes after Assur had fallen. The Medes and the Babylonians formed an alliance and cemented it through the marriage of Nabopolassar’s son Nebuchadnezzar to Cyaxares’ daughter Amytis.
((( The Iraqi Kurds are very close to Assyrians in their genetic makeup, and probably have shifted into an Iranic tongue.))) Thus all groups in Iraq decent from a common ancester with a limited gene flow from various male invaders, who intermarried with the local female population. Jordanian, Lebanese, Turks also cluster closer to Assyrians,((( but not as strong as the Iraqi Arab or Kurds))), showing again their common genetic ancestery.
The fact that you don't even know who pazuzu was makes me question whether you know what you are talking about when you talk about mid East history. WHat you quote is strongly biased. Such differentiation between Assyria and Syria are clearly stated in the works of Josephus who wrote almost two thousand years ago.
ONce again the ignorance of those who reject the truth of the Assyrians. Assyrian is not a Kurdish language nor is it called Assyrian. The alphabet you portray is the Aramaic alphabet. If I'm not mistaking it is known as Strangulo. It is semitic in origin and it dates as far back 600 AD.
U know u kurds or who ever is trying to make assyrians look bad and make it look like assyrians have no culture at all u guys r sick and jealous just because u kurds belong to persia and came from somewhere in asia and now try to base ur roots in our lands we say no and the history says it even louder kurdish language is more persian and turkish than it is semetic or close to aramaic that what assyrians used so i think u should try try some thing else to promote ur short built history
Scholars and Christians call it Assyrian (Aramaic)... not average fools like yourself. Kurds/Chalds are of the same ignorance. Of course, it's no wonder they're always classified together. Any basic google search will teach you the intellectual truth.
@Pazuzu773 ,, theres no such thing called Assyrians,, u r nestorian chaldeans and persian nestorians,, england made u asyrians 100 yers ago,, yalla baba yalla,, go do ur home work , u have school tomorrow
@AssyrianMelodies Better luck next time. They got the name "Assyrian" from the Assyrians and the same goes for Chaldeans. They relied on them for the names. In any of the near thousand reports on Iraqi Ethnicity roots from the local libraries records at the time, they all grouped them together and called them Iraqi Christians. Truth was they never did distinguish them from each other, the Assyrians and Chaldeans did, long ago.
@that1nigglet Adding on to that, where else would Christianity come from? It never spread down into Arabia, as you know, because of Islam. There was only a 300 year gap from 300-600. And that's when Muslims came from the south and took over. So then, who were the ancestors of the modern day Iraqi Christians? Kurds were in essence, originally white Hindus, as they are from the Indus region of India/Pakistan, mostly from Kashmir. Your so-called "strong genetic links" to Iraq are fictional.
@Pazuzu773 Excuse you, but I really don't think any self-respecting scholar would use "Assyrian" for "Aramaic" interchangeably. Aramaic itself is a language that came out of the Aram region of Syria. You're off by a near 200 miles there. Kurds are Muslims, and Chaldeans are Catholics. When are they ever grouped together except by your narcissistic, egotistical church? Who, mind you call everyone who doesn't speak Aramaic "gentiles".
LOL- caught another loser Kurd/Chaldean... no wonder Assyrians, Armenians, and Greeks hate you dirty folks... by the way, muslims and roman catholic church are the same trash.catholic church was a dirty church from ancient times to present day, and islam is all dirty!
Serbian orthodoxy always defends their Assyrian/Armenian/Greek brothers!!!! Not no dirty Kurds/Chalds... like the loser who made this video with multiple accounts! LMAO
@Pazuzu773 You caught nothing. The Catholic Church was started by Peter, of whom, Jesus entrusted fully. Calling our Church "dirty" is calling the man Jesus himself put into power. This is why we smock at other Churches, because ours originally was the first Church. Everything else, is an offshoot. Greeks hate everyone who aren't Greeks. Armenians are some of my closest friends and Assyrians...a lot of people think they're the most Arabized people I know. Khanazzer!
Catholic Church was started by the dirty Romans who refused to accept Christianity for merely 250 years of its inception. The originial Christians (Assyrians/Armenians/Coptics) had Christian Churches (Orthodox branch/ Eastern Church) before Catholic Church was initiated by Romans. The Romans caused the division of Christians... Peter was depicted as speaker of all Apostles (Church branches).
I'm Serb, all my friends are Armenian/Assyrian, which are culturally/historically united.
@Pazuzu773 I'm afraid you don't understand history. The Catholic Church has had members in it since 77AD, when Peter first started it, and then he was killed. He sent missionaries, Bartholomew and Thomas from Israel to the part of the world known at that time called "Chaldea". This is where Chaldeans get there name, and it is evident because they have a Chaldean Church in India, thus, they went into Southern Iraq, and through Basra, established a Catholic Church there by 109AD.
Catholic church was not the original Church. First Church originated in Middle East by Eastern Church. I don't know too much, really, as I have not studied this matter. But, because almost all my friends are Assyrians/Armenians, I have learned a lot. There's the original Assyrian Church of East, Syriac Orthodox, and Chaldean (catholic) Church. I would say half the Assyrians I know are Orthodox, other half Catholic.
@Pazuzu773 The Catholic Church is the oldest, and most original form for a Church. It was not accepted by the Romans and Catholics were persecuted until ca. 300AD, when the Emperor turned Catholic himself. The Church has had Chaldean followers since 79AD. This also is what united Assyrians and Chaldeans at the time. The Church of the East was, as you know, a Catholic Church originally.
Serbs/Assyrians/Armenians/Greeks understand history better than you fools, trust me. Also, was it necessary to make multiple fake accounts to hide your chald identity? Just because most are repulsed by chalds/kurds/turks, doesn't mean you should be, too. Exercise polite, and proper language, and you'll receive respect from others. Until then, chalds continue to remind us of the same turk/bosnik/arab peoples. Sillies.
Only people that think Assyrians are Arabized/Turkized are Arabs/Kurds/Chalds themselves bc they wish to Arabize all Assyrians/Israeli's/Armenians/Maronites of Middle East. History shows that will never happen. Most Assyrians today live in Sweden/Germany/USA/Brasil, leaving the Israeli's/Armenians to suffer alongside you infidels. May the US, E.U., Israeli's/Assyrians/Armenians eradicate you infidels.
@Pazuzu773 No, once I went to St. Peters in Phoenix, most people there spoke Sureth that was 1/2 Sureth and 1/2 Arabic. Who uses "floos" as money in an Aramaic language? "Zuuzih" or "Parieh". None of this "floos" stuff. History shows what has happen, not what will happen. Israel? Israel is the source for all the problems in the Middle East. While I'm for an Israel, I really want "Israel" to be somewhere else on the map. Catholics are not infidels. I'm Marionite, and I live with Chaldeans.
My Assyrian friend said "zoo-zeh" (phonetically) means money in Aramaic (Assyrian). They have never heard of "floos". By the way, arabs/chalds live mostly in Detroit and Arizona, while Assyrians live in Chicago and S.Diego. You're Maronite, so obviously you're an Arab... thats why you have much in common with Chalds/Kurds. Arabs/Chalds live side by side in Middle East and in US. I dont care of your religion. Youre Arab, and arabs/bosniks/albos/kurds/chald/turks are merely same!
@Pazuzu773 Maronite are not Arabs. Maronites stand out from the shit brown eyed, and shit colored hair of the Arabs. No, I have nothing in common with Arabs or Kurds, as I I'm not stupid. (Tell your Assyrian friend the joke, he'll get it)
I'm having a hard time believing your a Chald. You must be an incognito Turk, trying to divide fragile Christians! Maronites are Arabs... old Christian Arabs.
@Pazuzu773 I'M MARONITE! Arabs are Bedouins from the Southern Arabian peninsula..There was no such a thing as an Arab in the area till' the Islamic Conquests of The Near East.
Foundation of Christianity (as Bible readers/non-Bible History-buffs alike know), started with Jesus sending the Assyrians to punish the Jews for their sinful ways. At that time, there was no Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Turkey, etc. It was Assyria with various Israelite and Palestinian provinces. Arameans (Jesus' first followers) assimilated in Assyrian empire, making them the first Christians in the World. Armenia was first country to nationalize Christianity but not first peoples.
@Pazuzu773 Henceforth, my lineage is one that eclipses that of the Assyrians, in terms of becoming a Christian first! We did not become Assyrians, as we still are Lebanese Catholics. We were the first, because in Acts 11:26, it mentions Antioch BY NAME as the first to become and realize who Jesus was, and THEY WERE CATHOLICS, as they are today.
@Pazuzu773 I'm mixed. My father is a Romanian Orthodox, and his mother is A Greek Orthodox. My mother is A Maronite Catholic, and my great Grandmother is a Chaldean-Assyrian Catholic.
@Pazuzu773 I'm sorry, I'm Romanian, Greek, Lebanese and Assyrian/Chaldean. I have all my citizenship for those countries, and an American passport. I am a first generation here, alas.
Arameans were first to accept Christianity, as they were Jesus' nomads, and assimilated under Assyrian empire; hence, they, the Syraics are classified as foundation of Christianity. However, it doesn't matter who was first. What matters is the three ethnic peoples
He, our Lord, chose... the Egyptians, His People, the Assyrians, the people of His hand, and the Israelites, His inheritance. Isaiah 19:25
@Pazuzu773 ,, and does ur LORD say ,, only ORTHODOX christians are good and the rest are dirty infidels?
since u read the bible,,then read the book of NAHUM, its only 2 pages,, he said "ASSYRIANS VANISHED" they dont EXSIST any more,, p.s. Nahum was an eye witness
@Pazuzu773 Assyrian in the Syriac Bible is "Achurayo". This is also a name meaning anybody that speaks "Sureth" or, Syriac, with the exception of the "o", as it is interchangeable with the letter "a" since it varies from dialect to dialect. Keep in mind that this is the word for a a speak of Aramaic even in the Chaldeans and Maronites dialect of Aramaic.
@AssyrianMelodies שׂוּר is Sur, and it is the one that is used in the Bible. Though it translates as "Assyrian" , if you've actually read the Bible in Sureth, it means any speaker of Aramaic. It's a mistranslation.
@that1nigglet ,, baba what bible? the word SYRIAC/Syrian is derived from Osroene / Osrohene ,, ܡܵܠܟܘܼܬܵܐ ܕܒܹܝܬ ܥܸܣܪܵܐ ܥܝܼܢܹܐ ,, and it means (ten wells) ,, as for the country SYRIA /SORYA its derived from the city of Tyre / Tyrus in Lebanon, its (SUR) in semitic and it means (WALL/ MURE)
England labeled u asyrians 100 yers ago BASED on FAKING this Syria /Assyria shit,, just to fool u and to drag u in their wars,, read ONLY 40 pages from the book im promoting in my background
@AssyrianMelodies 1)I'm Maronite. 2) The other guy is Serbian Orthodox. You are reaching nothing so far. Let me ask you one question: In your Aramaic, when you call someone a "Suraya", what does it mean? The Peshitta, habibi! The one I have is in Hebrew script, but is in Aramaic. Kind of like writing Arabic in English, though, since I couldn't order one in Syriac, so you'll forgive me if I can't say what it is in Syriac script.
@that1nigglet ,, Pazuzu is NOT Serbian,, is a Nestorian (fake Assyrian) they pretend to be different Nationalities, to defend their case,, there are many claim to be Jewish or Serbs etc..
theres this user (proudchaldean) hes not chaldean,, just created this acount to insult ppl in the name of Chaldeans,, cos they know we're friendly ppl and dont like to make enemies,, so theyre making them for us,, this SHOWS u how LOW CLASS they are
@that1nigglet ,, suraya for chaldeans is used in a term referring to a Christian,, ask my grand mother whats the religion of the Italians? she'll answer (Suraya) ,, its because christianity came to Mesopotamia via the Syriacs,, even the Iraqi Arab say sontimes (they are speaking christian) cos Sureth/Syriac has been always used to identify a christian, i know its wrong, but thats how it is
i didnt say everyone speaks Sureth is from Libanon,, Sureth means SYRIAC,, is a dialect of Aramaic
@AssyrianMelodies you say that the assyrians are fake, ok let say that it is true. but why do you and the rest of the "chaldean" community use a foreign pronunciation to label them self. why dont you use the real name KASDI. that is what the ancient "chaldeans" used to call them self.
@AssyrianMelodies Melkuth dbetha 3sra 3na? Kingdom of the House of 10 Springs? There's a place in Israel with that name. 10 springs, I mean. What are you suggesting exactly, that everybody that speaks Sureth is from Lebanon? That's not true! My mom only spoke a bit and she is a Maronite and Chaldean/Assyrian. Have you ever read our Raza, and compared it to the Assyrians? Notice, how they both are pretty much the same thing, just one is in Madnhaya and Estrangela.
The term Syria came from ancient Roman/Greco times, when the Greeks called the land of Assyrian warriors Syria. People referred to them as such, along with their language... Only recently did they drop the a in Syria and made it Syriac to distinguish their native tongue, and to clarify their separate ethnic and religion origin.
There was never a "Caldea" nation, and never will be. You guys are worse than Kurds... wishing and stealing ancient identities.
Everyone during that time in the Mediterranean spoke Aramaic, as the Assyrians made it their lingua franca, and because they were the mightiest empire, they expanded the language to all peoples, alogn with some Akkadian (most ancient language). But Assyrian means ethnic Assyrians, not just an Aramaic speaker. The Old Testament specifically states Assyria is blessed, and He used the Assyrians to punish the Jews; untimately He punished the Assyrians for their militaristic arrogance
@Pazuzu773 Even in the Peshitta, of which, it is translated as "Sur", it says that this denotes, and I quote "The Aramaic speaking" a-sriyeh, meaning people of the Surayih, people who speak Aramaic. Do you not know Sureth?
I dont know Sureth, and I dont speak it, as I only know Engl and Serb. But I did a google search and it does not state such. Assyrians are classified as an "entity." (a people). All Middle Eastern/Mediterranean folks spoke Aramaic at that time, it was not something beautiful as Akkadian was to the people. And as a Christian, I go by the Old testament (even tho New Test is merely same), which states the significance of certain nations (Egypt, Assyria, Israel), and it's peoples.
And I studied World History/ sub-major Mid East history/relations in Chicago, and have quite the knowledge of the ethnic origins and religions of the region. Many who don't believe in God (advanced educators), are nonchalent towards these religions, and are more inspired by these ancient civilizations (Sumer, Assyria/Babylonia).
East West Schism resulted in the division of all Christians, resulting in both (Eastern) Orthodoxy and (Western)Catholicism. Romans were dirty back then, and still are present day, as the World watches the un-Holy Catholic Church and their daily scandals. Despicable!
@Pazuzu773 Say what you wish about respect, but you are surely not showing it here. It's important to remember that they do not represent the Church as a whole. Like, how the only Serbian people I know of are Muslims. Most of you are Christians, so I know not to judge by what they seem, but the confines of their character. There's good and bad in all; I only wish that God would open your eyes to see this.
Arabs/Turks/Kurds = problem of Middle East, not Israeli's. As a Serb, I see fault with Israeli's, too, but there's more fault and blood on the hands of Arabs/Kurds/Turks. The Armenians and Assyrians, whom are the foundation of Christianity, have endured unbearable conditions bc of you animals. I feel the pain of all Armenians/Assyrians/Israeli's. As does the entire West.
@psmx7 Great! Cause kurds dont use Media, Mittani, Elam, Lullubi, Guti, Kassites, Hittites and Manea as homeland, term kurd were founded by roman empire known as Cordyene/Cordochoi which means mountain peoples of south Caucasia to north Mesopotamia while Persia steal were survived as Persia untils Iran 1923 Treaty of Lausane when Kurdistan were divided. Iran means aryans, Kurdistan means mountains of north Mesopotamia inside Caucasus geography there even semitic jews consider themself as kurds
@psmx7 Kurds will never share semitic blod, kurds are among Caucasian native land and nations. Kurds are Indoeuropean! Not semitic despite 80% of us are moslims! We always stand and die for our root blood of Caucasian nations whatever which religion we use, we will share same blood and history with our sisters and brothers Caucasian nations. Proud to be kurd. Islam ans Christianity is for semitic peoples, Good did not punished us Caucasians, hurrians empire protected Abraham from semitic empires
@kurdishleader Yeah, assyrians stole histories to themself while syreans are good people, cause They love their Jesus which is loved by our Caucasian relations, not same like assyrians who stole history from Iraqi arabs, cause Babylionian, sumerians and akkadians are proved to be ancestor to Iraqi arabs, Jesus were Syrean/aramaic, not Babylionian such as Newroz is from Medians who are among the ancestor to kurds, not persians, same I think with syreans/arameans and Assyrians/chaldeans.
Melodies, the reason why we Mesopotamians have Turkish/Persian/Kurdish is cuz the Suraye that call themselves Assyrians mostly live in Urmia, Iran, some in the East side of North Iraq, and some in Turkey. The Suraye that call themselves Chaldeans mostly live in North Iraq, which why Chaldeans speak mostly Arabic and have some kurdish words in their Syriac.
fucked up video, we have loanwords in our language, but so does every other language? but we actually have an equivalent to all the words we loan.
Do your research properly before you state anything i didnt even watch this video till the end.
Chappa is not kurdish? it is just a way some dialekts pronounce is... making K into CH. just like iraqi arabs say shlonech and not shlonek. It is KAPPA.. like the arabs say KAF.. we just switch between P and F, and put an A on our nouns. do ur research.
get rid of this fukd up video mother fucker. why did u even mention fucked up kurds in this video. kurds have no fkn country nd no alphabets. Its Assyria, no such thing as a iraq. And plus all Assyrians are Christians, kurds are all muslims..... Assyrians all the way mother fuckers
hey fuck of, there is no kurdish language, there is only Suryoyo language, kurds even have no alphabet, what rubbish are they talking about these idiot kurds
هل يمكن ان نقول ان اللغة العربية اصلها انجليزي او انها مليئة بمفردات انجليزية لمجرد استعمال مثلاً كلمة okay مع العلم يوجد لهذه الكلمة مرادفة في اللغة العربية
ما قد جعلني اضحك ان بعض الناس يقولون كلاما يشابه التالي:الولد علم والده الكثير من المفردات..اليس الاصح ان نقول ان الولد تعلم الكلام من ابيه؟حيث ان الاب اقدم و اعلم من الابن...اليس الاشوريون او السريان او الكلدان من اقدم ما دونه التاريخ؟
WRONG parts, Waraqa comes from Proto-Semitic *Waraq meaning leaf or green, so Waraqa is Syriac and Arabic since both languages are Semitic. Gami is actua
@MrASSYRIANKINGS idiot assyrian you coward & low level (Subartu was apparently a polity in Northern Mesopotamia, at the upper Tigris,in the general sphere of influence of the Hurrians. Its precise location has not been identified.According to some scholars like Harvard Professor Mehrdad Izady, identifies Subartus with the current Kurdish tribe of Zibaris inhabiting the northern ring around Mosul up to Hakkari in TurkeySubartu marked the northern geographical horizon,just as Martu,Elam and Sumer)
goran21715 1 month ago
CENGİZ-HAN YAŞADIĞI MÜDDETÇE SENİN ATALARINI SİKMİŞ BELLİKİ OROSPUÇOCUĞU GORAN goran21715
volkanozada 1 month ago
@volkanozadayou idiot turkman dirty gypsy , you gypsy mongols(The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th &11th centuries AD Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China & Inner Mongolia)
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 olmayan tarihinize sokayım orospunun çocukları ermeni kırması orospuçocuğu
volkanozada 1 month ago
@volkanozada best thing is that to remember you is that turk are mongols(the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD (the Early Middle Ages). Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia)
goran21715 1 month ago
725 - 735 yılları arasında ilk Türk alfabesi yazılmıştır. Bu yazının Türkler tarafından eski zamandan beri kullanıldığı anlaşılıyor fakat ne kadar eski olduğu kesin olarak çıkarılan gümüş bir tabağın üzerinde bulunan iki satırlık Orhun Harfleriyle yazılmış yazı, öz be öz Türk alfabesinden oluşan bu yazının M.Ö. 5. yüzyıldan itibaren kullanıldığı tespit edilmiştir.
volkanozada 1 month ago
@volkanozada ungly mongols face(The population ancestral to the Turkic language speakers is thought to have been included in the Xiongnu of Mongolia or along the upper Yenisei in Siberia known from historical sources. The Han Dynasty chronicle of the Xiong-nu, included in the Shi Ji, traces a legendary history of them back a thousand years before the Han to a legendary ancestor, Chunwei, a supposed descendant of the Chinese rulers of the Xia Dynasty.[ He lived among the "Mountain Barbarians" )
goran21715 1 month ago
@volkanozada turk are mongols stupid(The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD (the Early Middle Ages)Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns.Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia)
goran21715 1 month ago
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@goran21715 CENGİZ-HAN YAŞADIĞI MÜDDETÇE SENİN ATALARINI SİKMİŞ BELLİKİ OROSPUÇOCUĞU GORAN goran21715
volkanozada 1 month ago
goran21715 go and fuck your mom dick sucker motherfucker lick my penis...İDİOT GORAN.
.go and fuck your ass
volkanozada 1 month ago
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@volkanozada fuck off little mongols ftupid go and fuck your mom dick sucker motherfucker lick my penis...İDİOT (volkanozada ) you mongols (number of tribes and geographic groups, not all of which were probably Turkic (considering the later mixed ethnicity). The Shi Ji mentions the Mianshu,, Wiezhi and Quyan north of the Qi and Liang mountains and Jing and Qi Rivers; the Forest Barbarians and Loufan north of Jin and the Eastern Barbarians and Mountain Barbarians north of Yan
goran21715 1 month ago
kürdün amına sokim devletsiz orospuçocukları hain şerefsizler...
GORAN MOTHER FUCKER
volkanozada 1 month ago
@volkanozada GORAN FUCK YOUR MOTHER FUCKER,you are bastard donkey mongols ancestor,go search you father real you dont know how was your greadfather,lol you mongols you must go to north gread wall or inner mongolia,or may son of those childs whom the ottmani stole him from him father in balkan or inrussia,at all your lineage didn't known simply you bastard,& that npo matter for you cause all same kind not one better than other first onr (Atadog) was jewish slaink bastard my his father was Greek
goran21715 1 month ago
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@volkanozada GORAN FUCK YOUR MOTHER FUCKER,you are bastard donkey mongols ancestor,go search you father real you dont know how was your greadfather,lol you mongols you must go to north gread wall or inner mongolia,or may son of those childs whom the ottmani stole him from him father in balkan or inrussia,at all your lineage didn't known simply you bastard,& that npo matter for you cause all same kind not one better than other first onr (Atadog) was jewish slaink bastard my his father was Greek
goran21715 1 month ago
fucking kurdish... fucking goran...fuckin idiots
volkanozada 1 month ago
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@volkanozada fuck you and fuck ASSyrian and fuck turk mongols &arab idiot you son of whore ,(Rawlinson was surprised during his research to discover that the founders of the Mesopotamian civilization were of Kushite origin.He made it clear that the Semitic speakers of Akkad & the nonSemitic speakers of Sumer were both Black or Negro people who called themselves sag-gig-ga In Rawlinson s day the Sumerian people were recognized as Akkadian,while the Semitic speaking blacks were called Assyrians)
goran21715 1 month ago
@volkanozada fuck you mom idot and fuck your grandmother and fuck your extinct and fuck your extinct ancestor . you som of bitch
goran21715 1 month ago
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komigennufan 1 month ago
lol what a stupid video.
komigennufan 1 month ago
ASSYRIAN NOT KURDISH FUCK KURDISH
MrASSYRIANKINGS 2 months ago
@MrASSYRIANKINGS FUCK OFF ASSyrian negro(As result, Rawlinson was surprised during his research to discover that the founders of the Mesopotamian civilization were of Kushite origin. He made it clear that the Semitic speakers of Akkad and the non-Semitic speakers of Sumer were both Black or Negro people who called themselves sag-gig-ga “Black Headsâ€. In Rawlinson’s day the Sumerian people were recognized as Akkadian or Chaldean, while the Semitic speaking blacks were called Assyrians)
goran21715 1 month ago
I'll start by correcting you info, 1-Arminians are Christians but not ethnically semetics so they have no connection to Assyrians or Chaldeans, 2- The tern Syriac it came from the word Suryaya (it is written with a silent A like this Asuryaya) and that is how the Greeks referred to the Assyrians at the time of the Byzantine. Go on the web and see for your self. Some of major Assyrian political leaders and parties are Syriac and Chaldeans which make no deferent to us because we're all one PEOPLE.
2012atra 2 months ago
I don't no you or who is putting up for this, but regardless Assyrians, Chaldean and Syriac are the names of the same people history have proven that and if you are at any level of education you can check that out for your self and you don't need my help. On the other hand The Kurdish people that came from Uzbekistan and occupied the land of the Assyrians, Chaldean and Syriac with the help of the Mongolians and Tatars shouldn't get involved in other peoples affairs.
2012atra 3 months ago
@2012atra you are wrong, assyrians , chaldeans and arameans, are reffered as syriacs, witch means christians, and are names.
Ahridium777 2 months ago
@Ahridium777 fuck off little ASSyrian .nowadays dont mean any thing cause the ASSyrian extibct with fall of nenivah in 612 BC(The fall of Nineveh shocked the ancient world. The Jewish prophet Nahum described the Median armies advancing to the city that had once ruled the Near East.
An attacker advances against you, Nineveh. [...]
The shields of his soldiers are red;
the warriors are clad in scarlet.
The metal on the chariots flashes
on the day they are made ready;
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 i again ask you bastard to proove me were kurdistan is as land you land stealers, tell me were in mesopotamia witch is beth nahrin is kurdistan show me and dont speak with me like a donkey bastard!
Ahridium777 1 month ago
@Ahridium777 donkey ASSyrian and bastard idiot Kurdistan or kurd derived from Gutian , or Guti or kurdi (Gutian is same of khurrti or khuti or khudi or kurdi , all these same thing it chang in utter acording to nation around kurd like egyptian and sumerian& ugharite and Elamite. ancient HURRIAN (KURDIAN) WAS FROM MEDDETERNIAN SEA TO CASPIAN SEA IN EAST &FROM HIGHLAND OF ARARAT TO STRAITE'S HURMIZ OG GULF you can see map of Akkadian empire in Akkadian encyclopedia or in hurrian encyclopedia
goran21715 1 month ago
@Ahridium777 kurdistan hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahashahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.there is no such thing, no such thing ...dream on.
volkanozada 1 month ago
@volkanozada TURK hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahashahhaahahahaha-hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
lol the turk are mongols(). The Shi Ji mentions the Mianshu, Hunrong and Diyuan west of Long; the Yiqu, Dali, Wiezhi and Quyan north of the Qi and Liang mountains and Jing and Qi Rivers; the Forest Barbarians and Loufan north of Jin and the Eastern Barbarians and Mountain Barbarians north of Yan. Later the treatise mentions others.)
goran21715 1 month ago
@volkanozada turkwoman, the turk are mongols(The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia. )
goran21715 1 month ago
@volkanozada The earliest written evidence for an Indo-Aryan language is found not in India, but in northern Syria in Hittite records regarding one of their neighbors, the Hurrian-speaking Mitanni. In a treaty with the Hittites, the king of Mitanni, after swearing by a series of Hurrian gods, swears by the gods Mitrašil, Uruvanaššil, Indara, and Našatianna, who correspond to the Vedic gods Mitra, Varuṇa, Indra, and Nāsatya (Aśvin). Contemporary equestrian terminology it in north Kurdistan
goran21715 1 month ago
@volkanozada Lullubi,ancient group of tribes that inhabited the Sherizor plain in the Zagros Mountains . A warlike people, they were especially active during the reign of the Akkadian king Naram-Sin (reigned c. 2254–c. 2218 bc)&at the end of the dynasty of Akkad (2334–2154 bc)The Lullubi were apparently subjugated by Naram-Sin,who commemorated his triumph on a masterpiece of Mesopotamian sculpture,the Naram-Sin stele;the tribes Later overshadowed by their more powerful neighbours, ...
goran21715 1 month ago
@volkanozada Sar-e Pol-e Zahab (“Sarpol”) is an Iranian town, not far from the Iraqi border, with no particular claim to fame, although you may have heard the name during the final stages of the First Gulf War, as one of the places during Iran’s 1988 counteroffensive against the Mujahedin-e Khalq. I would never have gone there, had it not been for five small, ancient rock reliefs.
goran21715 1 month ago
@volkanozada The Anubanini reliefThe youngest one was made during the reign of the Parthian king Gotarzes I or II,& shows a satrap doing obeisance to his king. It is about twenty centuries younger than the four other reliefs,which commemorate the investitures of four kings of Lullubi.This state was more or less identical to the valley of the river Diyala,north of Baghdad; the kings of Akkad (2335-2154)&the Third Dynasty of Ur (2112-2004) had to fight against the Lullubians on several occasions
goran21715 1 month ago
@volkanozada kurdistan hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahashahhaahahahaha-hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. WE LIVE IN KURDISTAN,we live in freedom more than all lslamic country . peoples realy live in democracy and freedom ,we see forign peoples and tourest very happy , they see him homeland ,homeland of aryan , they see real aryan tradation and aryan cultuer and ancient mithra religion in IZDY TEMPLE,evry day many Germen group visit Mithra temple , you poor mongols idiot
goran21715 1 month ago
@volkanozada an Indo-Aryan presence the peacock motif found in the Middle East from before 1600 BC and quite likely from before 2100 BC.
In contrast, most scholars reject the possibility that the Indo-Aryans of Mitanni came from the Indian subcontinent as well as the possibility that the Indo-Aryans of the Indian subcontinent came from the territory of Mitanni, leaving migration from the north the only likely scenario.[60] The presence of some BMAC loan words in Mitanni,
goran21715 1 month ago
@Ahridium777 Approximately 4,000 years ago, the first groups of Indo-European-speaking peoples started trickling into Kurdistan. These groups included the Medes, Mitanni, Scythians and Sagarthians and other Indo-European-speaking Aryans who settled in Kurdistan. Approximately 2,600 years ago, the Medes had already formed an empire that included much of what is today Kurdistan and beyond.
goran21715 1 month ago
@Ahridium777 FUCK OFF ASSyrian idiot (According to some scholars like Harvard Professor Mehrdad Izady,identifies Subartus with the current Kurdish tribe of Zibaris inhabiting the northern ring around Mosul up to Hakkari in Turkey.From the point of view of the Akkadian Empire,Subartu marked the northern geographical horizon,just as Martu,Elam &Sumer marked "west,"east &"south",respectively)where bull shit in this early time in around sumernianThey was north babylion to highland of ararat mountian
goran21715 1 month ago
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@goran21715 i again ask you bastard to proove me were kurdistan is as land you land stealers, tell me were in mesopotamia witch is beth nahrin is kurdistan show me and dont speak with me like a donkey bastard!
Ahridium777 1 month ago
@2012atra Subartu was apparently a polity in Northern Mesopotamia, at the upper Tigris, in the general sphere of influence of the Hurrians. Its precise location has not been identified. According to some scholars like Harvard Professor Mehrdad Izady,identifies Subartus with the current Kurdish tribe of Zibaris inhabiting the northern ring around Mosul up to Hakkari in Turkey.From the point of view of the Akkadian Empire,Subartu marked the northern geographical horizon,just as Martu, Elam &Sumer
goran21715 1 month ago
Assyrian fagets are trying make problem between Kurds, Chaldeans and Syriacs! They are American/Saddam ass lickers, they should be expelled to Europe with Jews.
SultanOfSwords 3 months ago
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@KingAshurbanipal Arbil Urban life at Arbil can be dated back to at least 6000 BC& it is one of the oldest continuously inhabited cities in the world.At the heart of the city is the ancient Citadel of Arbil.The Hurrians were the first to establish Urbilum&expand their rule to the rest of Northern Mesopotamia.Afterwards,stupid why ottmani dont brought mongols instead of kurdish,indeed the ASSyrian negro bedouin tribes invasion Hurrian-Subartuian land in 2500BC,Kurd base of mesopotamia civilation
goran21715 4 months ago
MATE YOU ARE REALLY WRONG CHALDEAN "FAKE NAME" MOST OF YOUR CHALDEAN WORDS YOU STOLE ARE ARABIC AND KURDISH AND A BIT OF ASSYRIAN, AND TURKISH TOO.
BUT LET ME TELL YOU ASSYRIANS DO USE PERSIAN WORDS BUT ALSO USE ARMENIAN WORDS TOO BECAUSE ARMENIANS AND ASSYRIANS HAVE BEEN BROTHERS SINCE 1300 AD AND SINCE WE WERE VERY CLOSE WE DID ADOPT A LITTLE ARMENIAN, BUT CHALDEANS "FAKE NAME" STOLE WORDS FROM ASSYRIANS, TURKISH, ARABIC, ARMENIAN, KURDISH. CHALDEANS STOLE FROM ALMOST 5 EHNIC LANGUAGES FAKE
andymadshood 5 months ago
@andymadshood completly wrong!
Ahridium777 2 months ago
@Ahridium777 The Sumerian mythological epic Enmerkar and the Lord of Aratta lists the countries where the "languages are confused" as Subartu, Hamazi, Sumer, Uri-ki (Akkad), and the Martu land (the Amorites). Similarly, the earliest references to the "four quarters" by the kings of Akkad name Subartu as one of these quarters around Akkad, along with Martu, Elam, and Sumer. Subartu in the earliest texts seem to have been farming mountain dwellers
goran21715 1 month ago
PRODUCER OF THIS VIDEO IS VERY STUPID THAT HE DOESNT KNOW ( CHANTA IS ACTUALLY TURKISH AND NOT ARABIC ) THE ARABS USE THAT WORD BECAUSE THEY WERE OCCUPIED BY THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE SO GET UR FUCKING FACTS RIGHT BUDDY BEFORE MAKING UP SHIT.
ME5OPOTAMIAN 5 months ago
shoosha isn't kurdish, shoosha is supposed to mean licorice
midrasa is arabic but it comes from Syriac midrasha
korsi is Arabic but don't forget Aramaic koorsya and akkadian kussu
sa'at is Arabic but it's related to Akkadian Sha'a
safina is also arabic but it's from Syriac Safi(n)ta
zibla is aramaic, it means dung, manure; so obviously as slang, it means trash or WASTE
G33KN3rd 6 months ago
@G33KN3rd fuck off idiot there wasn't arab exsist in that time , arab are bedouin first meantion with lslam invasion in 6th AD century , l never seen idiot like arab they appear in 5th ADcentury and the other nation like akkadian and sumerian and Elamite was borrow words from arab , what this foolish you live bedouin , if arab was so intelligent they was built house for himself and don't dwelt in tent, and live like dog in desert. lol arab absent in stage of yhistory till lslam era
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 yes there was and don't swear at me little boy, im ten times smarter than you and you know it, hostility is a sign of weak intellect. KURDS didn't exist until the 1200s A.D.
G33KN3rd 1 month ago
@G33KN3rd who are you retard and stupid to claim you are stupid or idiot what you know , kurd more smarter than you and your father too , from which desert you bedouin kurd esist befor sumerian foolish the GUTIAN dwelt in 3rd millennium in med-euphrat , and even Sargon off akkad was his father Guti the Gutian (sources give the region between the Tigris and the Zagros Mountains as the home of the Gutians, these people probably also lived on the middle Euphrates during the 3rd millennium)
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 nice grammar lol.....
Kurds have 6 tribal ancestors, name all six....
G33KN3rd 1 month ago
@G33KN3rd stupid the Medes was six tribes(1.The Busae group 2.The second group is called the Paraetaceni, 3The third group is called Strukhat 4.The fourth group is the Arizant 5.The fifth group were the Budii 6.The sixth tribe were the Magi...
lol Medes was one off may kin tribes (Hurrti ,Guti, Lullubi .Subartu , Khamzi and Kassite )
that Gutium or Guti, the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language, which was also spoken by their kin of Subartu, Lulu, Kassite, and Mittani
goran21715 1 month ago
@G33KN3rd The region of Mahabad was the centre of the Mannaeans, who flourished in the early 1st millennium BC.Approximately 4,000 years ago, the first groups of Indo-European-speaking peoples started trickling into Kurdistan. These groups included the Medes, Mitanni, Scythians and Sagarthians and other Indo-European-speaking Aryans who settled in Kurdistan. Approximately 2,600 years ago, the Medes had already formed an empire that included much of what is today Kurdistan and beyond.
goran21715 1 month ago
@G33KN3rd Hamazi held hegemony over Sumer after defeating Kish,but was in turn defeated by Enshakushanna of Uruk.Subartu other tribes on ancient kurdish ancestoe and Guti tribes thom they fall Akkadian empire2212BC -2000B.C &ruled mesopotamia they expension empire to ELAM &other tribes ruled mesopotamia was Kassite from 1700 BC -1100 BC and other forefather of KURD was Metanni whom they expension from anatolia to syria to babylon they leave scriptioncly tablet in aryan language 1700BC-1500BC,
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 Kassites are unrelated to Aryans, Mitanni was a country of Hurrians ruled by Indo-Aryans, and Hurrians weren't Aryan or Semitic at all.
the ancestors of the Kurds are the Medes, Gutians, Lullubis, Cyrtii, and Carduchi peoples. This process is known as "Ethnogenesis"
G33KN3rd 1 month ago
@G33KN3rd the Mitanni Dynasty controlled trade routes down the Habur to Mari and up the Euphrates from to Carchemish. They also controlled the upper Tigris Mukish, which stretched between Ugarit and Quatna west of the Orontes to the sea, and the Niya which controlled the east bank of the Orontes from Alalah down through Aleppo, Ebla and Hama to Quatna and Kadesh. To the east the Mitanni had good relations with the Hurrian-speaking Kassites whose territory corresponds to present-day Kurdistan.
goran21715 1 month ago
@G33KN3rd lol language is kurdish( theonyms,proper names & other terminology of the Mitanni exhibit an Indo-Aryan superstrate,suggesting that an Indo-Aryan elite imposed itself over the Hurrian population in the course of the Indo-Aryan expansion.
In a treaty between the Hittites and the Mitanni the deities Mitra, Varuna, Indra, Kikkuli's horse training text 1400 BC includes technical terms such as aika (eka, one), tera (tri, three), panza (pancha, five), satta (sapta, seven), na (nava, nine)
goran21715 1 month ago
@G33KN3rd animal the clay tablet inscription in kurdish l understand it and all lranian too, all l mention they was kin tribes , you stupid dont read it not mean its non exsistance (text (circa 1400 BC) includes technical terms such as aika (eka, one), tera (tri, three), panza (pancha, five), satta (sapta, seven),na (nava, nine),, stupid it kurdish eka meaning one try or siy is 3.,, 9 nu or na go learn kurdish &came argue me,its not like assyrian,no assyrian can understand assyrian inscription
goran21715 1 month ago
@G33KN3rd Zagros highlands which is the original dwelling of the ancient Kurds who were the native inhabitants of the area long before the migration of the other races and tribes.In an article published in Kurdistan Times in its issue of winter1990,Mr.Mustafa Qaradaghi states that Gutium or Guti,the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language,which was also spoken by their kin of Subartu,Lulu,Kassite,&Mittani.Their capital city was in &around the town of Kirkuk,named Arrapha"Mazouri2002
goran21715 1 month ago
@G33KN3rd Not only was Gutium located within the modern Kurdistan. The very name 'Kurd' itself has been viewed by scholars as being merely a corruption of the ancient Iranic word 'Guti'.Thus, Prof.Howorth concurs with the derivation of Kurdistan from Gutium, & identifies the ancient Babylonian term for Kurds,'Khuradi'or 'Quradu,'with 'Guti':"The land of Guti answers in substance&perhaps also in name, to the modern Kurdistan. According to Sayce the name Kurd is derived from the Babylonian quradu
goran21715 1 month ago
@G33KN3rd scholars as being merely a corruption of the ancient Iranic word 'Guti'. Thus, Prof. Howorth concurs with the derivation of Kurdistan from Gutium, and identifies the ancient Babylonian term for Kurds, 'Khuradi' or 'Quradu,' with 'Guti':"The land of Guti answers in substance& perhaps also in name, to the modern Kurdistan. According to Sayce the name Kurd is derived from the Babylonian quradu,'a warrior,'a word which was borrowed by the people of Van. In the forms of 'khuradi' & 'quradu'
goran21715 1 month ago
@G33KN3rd The name Guti, at any rate,survives today clearly in the name of the Kurdish clan of Judikan, inhabiting the heartland of the ancient Gutis in southeatern Kurdistan. The "Kardukhoi"who come to subsequently be known as the Gordyene to the classical authors, are none other than the predecessors of modern Girdi clan of Kurds who still reside exactly where the ancient Kardukhoi/Godyene were found.The name "Kurti/Kurd"seem likely to be of Aryan origin*one of the first,in fact, in Kurdistan*
goran21715 1 month ago
@G33KN3rd The Gutians overthrew the Akkadian dynasty, liberating the Sumerians from the Semitic yoke.The attempt by the fanatical Akkadian rulers to suppress the Sumerian language were rolled back,&a Sumerian renaissance occurred under benevolent Guti rule.Describing the Sumerian revival under the Guti,Badawy notes,The Akkadian dynasty (2350-2150 BC) marked a decisive phase in the Semitization of Mesopotamia,a process which went on in spite of the renascence of Sumerian under the Gutians 2000 BC
goran21715 1 month ago
@G33KN3rd . Gutium (Qutium), situated in Western Iran, is mentioned already in the presargonic period in a document ( 2500 B.C.)The fact that the Guti belonged to the proto-Iranians,is confirmed by their language, which is attested mainly by personal names. According to them the Guti spoke an Indo-European language,which was close to the TokharianThe relation between the Tokharian and the Aryan is corroborated by linguistic remnants in Tokharian& the grammatical parallels between both languages
goran21715 1 month ago
WTF? most of these words are either Syriac in origin or Persian/Turkish/Indian that spread through the whole near east.
Also the change of the sound K to Ch is a well known linguistic phenomenon that exist in almost all languages.
To my Assyrian brothers Please don't pay attention to this. You have the purest dialect of Syriac unlike us Dashtaye who messed it with Arabic.
rav8x8 6 months ago
which means if they are the closest to the assyrians by dna what does that mean u fools?intermarriage read the posts do your researchyou will find this to be very true
some of you are too funny and i am a indian muslim but both my forefathers are from iraq and both looked like semitic people not aryan i am brown but my forefather from mosul was very fair straight nose bridge and arched eyebrows and my forefather from baghdad was a dusky color with curly black hair
rasheed1660 7 months ago
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rasheed1660 7 months ago
Many Kurds have the "Jewish" Cohen Modal Haplotype
for below post please talking rubbish the kurds arameans and assyrians are living in the exact same areas same same same
rasheed1660 7 months ago
However, it soon became apparent that the CMH is not specific to Jews or descendants of Jews. In a 1998 article in Science News, Dr. Skorecki indicated (in an interview) that some non-Jews also possess the Cohen markers, and that the markers are therefore not "unique or special".(((((( The CMH is very common among Iraqi Kurds, according to a 1999 study by C. Brinkmann et al.))))))))))
rasheed1660 7 months ago
In 729 B.C. Babylonia was taken by the Assyrians and, with a few brief interludes, remained dependent for a century. A revolt against Assyrian domination flared up in 626, headed by Nabopolassar, who had been appointed governor of the southern part of the country. Nabopolassar revitalized the traditional alliance of the Chaldean tribes of southern Babylonia with Elam
rasheed1660 7 months ago
In November, 626, he was crowned in Babylon, thereby founding the Chaldean, or Neo-Babylonian, dynasty. There followed a protracted war between Babylonia and Assyria, with the advantage shifting from one side to the other and back again. No clear result emerged until 614, when Assyria was attacked by the Medes.
rasheed1660 7 months ago
The Medes, under their king Cyaxares, first seized the Assyrian province of Arrapha. Then, in the autumn of the same year, and after a fierce battle, they gained control of Assyria’s ancient capital, Assur. Nabopolassar brought his Babylonian army and joined the Medes after Assur had fallen. The Medes and the Babylonians formed an alliance and cemented it through the marriage of Nabopolassar’s son Nebuchadnezzar to Cyaxares’ daughter Amytis.
rasheed1660 7 months ago
So the medes(kurds) joined with the semitic chaldeans to defeat the assyrians!
they did intermarry
rasheed1660 7 months ago
@rasheed1660 bullshitt
Ahridium777 2 months ago
info below is from
The Genetics of Modern Assyrians and their Relationship to Other People of the Middle East
by Dr. Joel J. Elias - Professor (Emeritus), University of California School of Medicine, San Francisco
Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2000 11:55 am CST
rasheed1660 7 months ago
@rasheed1660 bullshitt
Ahridium777 2 months ago
((( The Iraqi Kurds are very close to Assyrians in their genetic makeup, and probably have shifted into an Iranic tongue.))) Thus all groups in Iraq decent from a common ancester with a limited gene flow from various male invaders, who intermarried with the local female population. Jordanian, Lebanese, Turks also cluster closer to Assyrians,((( but not as strong as the Iraqi Arab or Kurds))), showing again their common genetic ancestery.
rasheed1660 7 months ago
@rasheed1660 bullshitt
Ahridium777 2 months ago
pazuzu
The fact that you don't even know who pazuzu was makes me question whether you know what you are talking about when you talk about mid East history. WHat you quote is strongly biased. Such differentiation between Assyria and Syria are clearly stated in the works of Josephus who wrote almost two thousand years ago.
proudmckinleyparent 7 months ago
ONce again the ignorance of those who reject the truth of the Assyrians. Assyrian is not a Kurdish language nor is it called Assyrian. The alphabet you portray is the Aramaic alphabet. If I'm not mistaking it is known as Strangulo. It is semitic in origin and it dates as far back 600 AD.
proudmckinleyparent 7 months ago
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this are assyrian language not other language ever it happened that cuz. . look at the history for ever
joluos17 8 months ago
this are assyrian language not other language ever it happened that cuz. . look at the history
joluos17 8 months ago
U know u kurds or who ever is trying to make assyrians look bad and make it look like assyrians have no culture at all u guys r sick and jealous just because u kurds belong to persia and came from somewhere in asia and now try to base ur roots in our lands we say no and the history says it even louder kurdish language is more persian and turkish than it is semetic or close to aramaic that what assyrians used so i think u should try try some thing else to promote ur short built history
ME5OPOTAMIAN 9 months ago
@ME5OPOTAMIAN ,, u r not assyrian,, england labeled u so 100 yrs ago
AssyrianMelodies 9 months ago
Scholars and Christians call it Assyrian (Aramaic)... not average fools like yourself. Kurds/Chalds are of the same ignorance. Of course, it's no wonder they're always classified together. Any basic google search will teach you the intellectual truth.
Pazuzu773 10 months ago
@Pazuzu773 ,, theres no such thing called Assyrians,, u r nestorian chaldeans and persian nestorians,, england made u asyrians 100 yers ago,, yalla baba yalla,, go do ur home work , u have school tomorrow
AssyrianMelodies 10 months ago
@AssyrianMelodies Better luck next time. They got the name "Assyrian" from the Assyrians and the same goes for Chaldeans. They relied on them for the names. In any of the near thousand reports on Iraqi Ethnicity roots from the local libraries records at the time, they all grouped them together and called them Iraqi Christians. Truth was they never did distinguish them from each other, the Assyrians and Chaldeans did, long ago.
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@that1nigglet Adding on to that, where else would Christianity come from? It never spread down into Arabia, as you know, because of Islam. There was only a 300 year gap from 300-600. And that's when Muslims came from the south and took over. So then, who were the ancestors of the modern day Iraqi Christians? Kurds were in essence, originally white Hindus, as they are from the Indus region of India/Pakistan, mostly from Kashmir. Your so-called "strong genetic links" to Iraq are fictional.
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 Excuse you, but I really don't think any self-respecting scholar would use "Assyrian" for "Aramaic" interchangeably. Aramaic itself is a language that came out of the Aram region of Syria. You're off by a near 200 miles there. Kurds are Muslims, and Chaldeans are Catholics. When are they ever grouped together except by your narcissistic, egotistical church? Who, mind you call everyone who doesn't speak Aramaic "gentiles".
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@that1nigglet
LOL- caught another loser Kurd/Chaldean... no wonder Assyrians, Armenians, and Greeks hate you dirty folks... by the way, muslims and roman catholic church are the same trash.catholic church was a dirty church from ancient times to present day, and islam is all dirty!
Serbian orthodoxy always defends their Assyrian/Armenian/Greek brothers!!!! Not no dirty Kurds/Chalds... like the loser who made this video with multiple accounts! LMAO
Pazuzu773 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 You caught nothing. The Catholic Church was started by Peter, of whom, Jesus entrusted fully. Calling our Church "dirty" is calling the man Jesus himself put into power. This is why we smock at other Churches, because ours originally was the first Church. Everything else, is an offshoot. Greeks hate everyone who aren't Greeks. Armenians are some of my closest friends and Assyrians...a lot of people think they're the most Arabized people I know. Khanazzer!
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@that1nigglet
Catholic Church was started by the dirty Romans who refused to accept Christianity for merely 250 years of its inception. The originial Christians (Assyrians/Armenians/Coptics) had Christian Churches (Orthodox branch/ Eastern Church) before Catholic Church was initiated by Romans. The Romans caused the division of Christians... Peter was depicted as speaker of all Apostles (Church branches).
I'm Serb, all my friends are Armenian/Assyrian, which are culturally/historically united.
Pazuzu773 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 I'm afraid you don't understand history. The Catholic Church has had members in it since 77AD, when Peter first started it, and then he was killed. He sent missionaries, Bartholomew and Thomas from Israel to the part of the world known at that time called "Chaldea". This is where Chaldeans get there name, and it is evident because they have a Chaldean Church in India, thus, they went into Southern Iraq, and through Basra, established a Catholic Church there by 109AD.
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@that1nigglet
Catholic church was not the original Church. First Church originated in Middle East by Eastern Church. I don't know too much, really, as I have not studied this matter. But, because almost all my friends are Assyrians/Armenians, I have learned a lot. There's the original Assyrian Church of East, Syriac Orthodox, and Chaldean (catholic) Church. I would say half the Assyrians I know are Orthodox, other half Catholic.
Pazuzu773 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 They called it the "Church of the East," and it was a Catholic Church, as Peter even said so himself in his Annals.
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 The Catholic Church is the oldest, and most original form for a Church. It was not accepted by the Romans and Catholics were persecuted until ca. 300AD, when the Emperor turned Catholic himself. The Church has had Chaldean followers since 79AD. This also is what united Assyrians and Chaldeans at the time. The Church of the East was, as you know, a Catholic Church originally.
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@that1nigglet
Serbs/Assyrians/Armenians/Greeks understand history better than you fools, trust me. Also, was it necessary to make multiple fake accounts to hide your chald identity? Just because most are repulsed by chalds/kurds/turks, doesn't mean you should be, too. Exercise polite, and proper language, and you'll receive respect from others. Until then, chalds continue to remind us of the same turk/bosnik/arab peoples. Sillies.
Pazuzu773 9 months ago
@that1nigglet
Only people that think Assyrians are Arabized/Turkized are Arabs/Kurds/Chalds themselves bc they wish to Arabize all Assyrians/Israeli's/Armenians/Maronites of Middle East. History shows that will never happen. Most Assyrians today live in Sweden/Germany/USA/Brasil, leaving the Israeli's/Armenians to suffer alongside you infidels. May the US, E.U., Israeli's/Assyrians/Armenians eradicate you infidels.
Pazuzu773 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 No, once I went to St. Peters in Phoenix, most people there spoke Sureth that was 1/2 Sureth and 1/2 Arabic. Who uses "floos" as money in an Aramaic language? "Zuuzih" or "Parieh". None of this "floos" stuff. History shows what has happen, not what will happen. Israel? Israel is the source for all the problems in the Middle East. While I'm for an Israel, I really want "Israel" to be somewhere else on the map. Catholics are not infidels. I'm Marionite, and I live with Chaldeans.
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@that1nigglet
My Assyrian friend said "zoo-zeh" (phonetically) means money in Aramaic (Assyrian). They have never heard of "floos". By the way, arabs/chalds live mostly in Detroit and Arizona, while Assyrians live in Chicago and S.Diego. You're Maronite, so obviously you're an Arab... thats why you have much in common with Chalds/Kurds. Arabs/Chalds live side by side in Middle East and in US. I dont care of your religion. Youre Arab, and arabs/bosniks/albos/kurds/chald/turks are merely same!
Pazuzu773 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 Maronite are not Arabs. Maronites stand out from the shit brown eyed, and shit colored hair of the Arabs. No, I have nothing in common with Arabs or Kurds, as I I'm not stupid. (Tell your Assyrian friend the joke, he'll get it)
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@that1nigglet
I'm having a hard time believing your a Chald. You must be an incognito Turk, trying to divide fragile Christians! Maronites are Arabs... old Christian Arabs.
Pazuzu773 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 I'M MARONITE! Arabs are Bedouins from the Southern Arabian peninsula..There was no such a thing as an Arab in the area till' the Islamic Conquests of The Near East.
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@that1nigglet
Foundation of Christianity (as Bible readers/non-Bible History-buffs alike know), started with Jesus sending the Assyrians to punish the Jews for their sinful ways. At that time, there was no Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Turkey, etc. It was Assyria with various Israelite and Palestinian provinces. Arameans (Jesus' first followers) assimilated in Assyrian empire, making them the first Christians in the World. Armenia was first country to nationalize Christianity but not first peoples.
Pazuzu773 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 Henceforth, my lineage is one that eclipses that of the Assyrians, in terms of becoming a Christian first! We did not become Assyrians, as we still are Lebanese Catholics. We were the first, because in Acts 11:26, it mentions Antioch BY NAME as the first to become and realize who Jesus was, and THEY WERE CATHOLICS, as they are today.
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 Mind you, we ARE the first Christians, it even says so in Acts 11:26. Antioch
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@that1nigglet
What ethnicity are you? Maronite is not an ethnicity. For ex., I'm an Orthodox Serbian, living in the US.
Pazuzu773 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 I'm mixed. My father is a Romanian Orthodox, and his mother is A Greek Orthodox. My mother is A Maronite Catholic, and my great Grandmother is a Chaldean-Assyrian Catholic.
that1nigglet 9 months ago
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that1nigglet 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 I'm sorry, I'm Romanian, Greek, Lebanese and Assyrian/Chaldean. I have all my citizenship for those countries, and an American passport. I am a first generation here, alas.
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@that1nigglet
Arameans were first to accept Christianity, as they were Jesus' nomads, and assimilated under Assyrian empire; hence, they, the Syraics are classified as foundation of Christianity. However, it doesn't matter who was first. What matters is the three ethnic peoples
He, our Lord, chose... the Egyptians, His People, the Assyrians, the people of His hand, and the Israelites, His inheritance. Isaiah 19:25
Pazuzu773 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 ,, and does ur LORD say ,, only ORTHODOX christians are good and the rest are dirty infidels?
since u read the bible,,then read the book of NAHUM, its only 2 pages,, he said "ASSYRIANS VANISHED" they dont EXSIST any more,, p.s. Nahum was an eye witness
AssyrianMelodies 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 Assyrian in the Syriac Bible is "Achurayo". This is also a name meaning anybody that speaks "Sureth" or, Syriac, with the exception of the "o", as it is interchangeable with the letter "a" since it varies from dialect to dialect. Keep in mind that this is the word for a a speak of Aramaic even in the Chaldeans and Maronites dialect of Aramaic.
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@that1nigglet ,, assyrian and syriac are 2 different words,, STOP telling LIES´and FAKING history,, this is NOT FAIR
AssyrianMelodies 9 months ago
@AssyrianMelodies שׂוּר is Sur, and it is the one that is used in the Bible. Though it translates as "Assyrian" , if you've actually read the Bible in Sureth, it means any speaker of Aramaic. It's a mistranslation.
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@that1nigglet ,, baba what bible? the word SYRIAC/Syrian is derived from Osroene / Osrohene ,, ܡܵܠܟܘܼܬܵܐ ܕܒܹܝܬ ܥܸܣܪܵܐ ܥܝܼܢܹܐ ,, and it means (ten wells) ,, as for the country SYRIA /SORYA its derived from the city of Tyre / Tyrus in Lebanon, its (SUR) in semitic and it means (WALL/ MURE)
England labeled u asyrians 100 yers ago BASED on FAKING this Syria /Assyria shit,, just to fool u and to drag u in their wars,, read ONLY 40 pages from the book im promoting in my background
AssyrianMelodies 9 months ago
@AssyrianMelodies 1)I'm Maronite. 2) The other guy is Serbian Orthodox. You are reaching nothing so far. Let me ask you one question: In your Aramaic, when you call someone a "Suraya", what does it mean? The Peshitta, habibi! The one I have is in Hebrew script, but is in Aramaic. Kind of like writing Arabic in English, though, since I couldn't order one in Syriac, so you'll forgive me if I can't say what it is in Syriac script.
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@that1nigglet ,, Pazuzu is NOT Serbian,, is a Nestorian (fake Assyrian) they pretend to be different Nationalities, to defend their case,, there are many claim to be Jewish or Serbs etc..
theres this user (proudchaldean) hes not chaldean,, just created this acount to insult ppl in the name of Chaldeans,, cos they know we're friendly ppl and dont like to make enemies,, so theyre making them for us,, this SHOWS u how LOW CLASS they are
AssyrianMelodies 9 months ago
@AssyrianMelodies Ya Habibi, Are you not doing the same thing? Calling youself "AssyrianMelodies"? Lazim tekhmilit ...
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@that1nigglet ,, lol,, im just having fun with my channel title
AssyrianMelodies 9 months ago
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that1nigglet 9 months ago
@that1nigglet ,, suraya for chaldeans is used in a term referring to a Christian,, ask my grand mother whats the religion of the Italians? she'll answer (Suraya) ,, its because christianity came to Mesopotamia via the Syriacs,, even the Iraqi Arab say sontimes (they are speaking christian) cos Sureth/Syriac has been always used to identify a christian, i know its wrong, but thats how it is
i didnt say everyone speaks Sureth is from Libanon,, Sureth means SYRIAC,, is a dialect of Aramaic
AssyrianMelodies 9 months ago
@AssyrianMelodies you say that the assyrians are fake, ok let say that it is true. but why do you and the rest of the "chaldean" community use a foreign pronunciation to label them self. why dont you use the real name KASDI. that is what the ancient "chaldeans" used to call them self.
sonofpazuzu 9 months ago
@AssyrianMelodies Melkuth dbetha 3sra 3na? Kingdom of the House of 10 Springs? There's a place in Israel with that name. 10 springs, I mean. What are you suggesting exactly, that everybody that speaks Sureth is from Lebanon? That's not true! My mom only spoke a bit and she is a Maronite and Chaldean/Assyrian. Have you ever read our Raza, and compared it to the Assyrians? Notice, how they both are pretty much the same thing, just one is in Madnhaya and Estrangela.
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@AssyrianMelodies
The term Syria came from ancient Roman/Greco times, when the Greeks called the land of Assyrian warriors Syria. People referred to them as such, along with their language... Only recently did they drop the a in Syria and made it Syriac to distinguish their native tongue, and to clarify their separate ethnic and religion origin.
There was never a "Caldea" nation, and never will be. You guys are worse than Kurds... wishing and stealing ancient identities.
Pazuzu773 9 months ago
@that1nigglet
Everyone during that time in the Mediterranean spoke Aramaic, as the Assyrians made it their lingua franca, and because they were the mightiest empire, they expanded the language to all peoples, alogn with some Akkadian (most ancient language). But Assyrian means ethnic Assyrians, not just an Aramaic speaker. The Old Testament specifically states Assyria is blessed, and He used the Assyrians to punish the Jews; untimately He punished the Assyrians for their militaristic arrogance
Pazuzu773 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 Even in the Peshitta, of which, it is translated as "Sur", it says that this denotes, and I quote "The Aramaic speaking" a-sriyeh, meaning people of the Surayih, people who speak Aramaic. Do you not know Sureth?
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@that1nigglet
I dont know Sureth, and I dont speak it, as I only know Engl and Serb. But I did a google search and it does not state such. Assyrians are classified as an "entity." (a people). All Middle Eastern/Mediterranean folks spoke Aramaic at that time, it was not something beautiful as Akkadian was to the people. And as a Christian, I go by the Old testament (even tho New Test is merely same), which states the significance of certain nations (Egypt, Assyria, Israel), and it's peoples.
Pazuzu773 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773
And I studied World History/ sub-major Mid East history/relations in Chicago, and have quite the knowledge of the ethnic origins and religions of the region. Many who don't believe in God (advanced educators), are nonchalent towards these religions, and are more inspired by these ancient civilizations (Sumer, Assyria/Babylonia).
Pazuzu773 9 months ago
@that1nigglet
You can message me if you want to further discuss. Its annoying coming onto this page. Ciao!
Pazuzu773 9 months ago
God Bless the ancient Assyrians!! God will forever watch over His chosen people!!
God Bless from the Great U.S.A.!!!
Manhatten312 9 months ago
@that1nigglet
East West Schism resulted in the division of all Christians, resulting in both (Eastern) Orthodoxy and (Western)Catholicism. Romans were dirty back then, and still are present day, as the World watches the un-Holy Catholic Church and their daily scandals. Despicable!
Pazuzu773 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 Say what you wish about respect, but you are surely not showing it here. It's important to remember that they do not represent the Church as a whole. Like, how the only Serbian people I know of are Muslims. Most of you are Christians, so I know not to judge by what they seem, but the confines of their character. There's good and bad in all; I only wish that God would open your eyes to see this.
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 Are you admitting you're wrong?
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 On top of that, the East–West Schism made the Orthodox church, so it wasn't the original.
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@that1nigglet
Arabs/Turks/Kurds = problem of Middle East, not Israeli's. As a Serb, I see fault with Israeli's, too, but there's more fault and blood on the hands of Arabs/Kurds/Turks. The Armenians and Assyrians, whom are the foundation of Christianity, have endured unbearable conditions bc of you animals. I feel the pain of all Armenians/Assyrians/Israeli's. As does the entire West.
Pazuzu773 9 months ago
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that1nigglet 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 Arabs/Turks/Kurds are the problem, AMEN!
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@Pazuzu773 While their Mass is in Sureth, ours is in Arabic. This is why I go to a Chaldean church. It's more original than our own.
that1nigglet 9 months ago
@psmx7 Great! Cause kurds dont use Media, Mittani, Elam, Lullubi, Guti, Kassites, Hittites and Manea as homeland, term kurd were founded by roman empire known as Cordyene/Cordochoi which means mountain peoples of south Caucasia to north Mesopotamia while Persia steal were survived as Persia untils Iran 1923 Treaty of Lausane when Kurdistan were divided. Iran means aryans, Kurdistan means mountains of north Mesopotamia inside Caucasus geography there even semitic jews consider themself as kurds
1Azadman 10 months ago
@psmx7 Kurds will never share semitic blod, kurds are among Caucasian native land and nations. Kurds are Indoeuropean! Not semitic despite 80% of us are moslims! We always stand and die for our root blood of Caucasian nations whatever which religion we use, we will share same blood and history with our sisters and brothers Caucasian nations. Proud to be kurd. Islam ans Christianity is for semitic peoples, Good did not punished us Caucasians, hurrians empire protected Abraham from semitic empires
1Azadman 10 months ago
Were is the guy known as XxSouthKurdistanXx ????
1Azadman 10 months ago
Chaldeans are Good people so are Sryani, but Assyrians are fucked up they speak and act Arabic. They even callthemseves Arab/Iraqi...
kurdishleader 11 months ago
@kurdishleader Yeah, assyrians stole histories to themself while syreans are good people, cause They love their Jesus which is loved by our Caucasian relations, not same like assyrians who stole history from Iraqi arabs, cause Babylionian, sumerians and akkadians are proved to be ancestor to Iraqi arabs, Jesus were Syrean/aramaic, not Babylionian such as Newroz is from Medians who are among the ancestor to kurds, not persians, same I think with syreans/arameans and Assyrians/chaldeans.
1Azadman 10 months ago
Melodies, the reason why we Mesopotamians have Turkish/Persian/Kurdish is cuz the Suraye that call themselves Assyrians mostly live in Urmia, Iran, some in the East side of North Iraq, and some in Turkey. The Suraye that call themselves Chaldeans mostly live in North Iraq, which why Chaldeans speak mostly Arabic and have some kurdish words in their Syriac.
G33KN3rd 11 months ago
kora zoornachee, vara vara!
VaniaLolham 1 year ago
fucked up video, we have loanwords in our language, but so does every other language? but we actually have an equivalent to all the words we loan.
Do your research properly before you state anything i didnt even watch this video till the end.
Chappa is not kurdish? it is just a way some dialekts pronounce is... making K into CH. just like iraqi arabs say shlonech and not shlonek. It is KAPPA.. like the arabs say KAF.. we just switch between P and F, and put an A on our nouns. do ur research.
xxAtrinxx 1 year ago
@xxAtrinxx
neither is Spy kurdish? its akkadian, which is also assyrian.
jullah is kurdish yes but we have our word luwasha for it.
zarda is kurdish yes but we have our word yarooqa.
jum is kurdish yes, like in jum poomokh, but we can say shtuq pummokh ?
your an arab and point a finger at us for saying MEZ, but how do you arabs yourself say table? ups, u was trapped in your own trap.
Midrasa? we say madrashta.
jeeba is an arabic word that derives from our word gub3a.
Millet? we say umta.
xxAtrinxx 1 year ago
@xxAtrinxx
kursi? we say kursiya which is pure assyrian.
baidakh? we say ata.
maymoon? we say qopa and qerda.
sa3at? we say sha3ta.
düz? we say treeca. (C=sadheh)
kirwish? i sory but ur the only kir here, and we say arnuba.
faqeera? we say meskeena...
i dont wish to continiue but since ur an asshole my comments wont stop you, but they will help people from not falling for ur lies.
xxAtrinxx 1 year ago
get rid of this fukd up video mother fucker. why did u even mention fucked up kurds in this video. kurds have no fkn country nd no alphabets. Its Assyria, no such thing as a iraq. And plus all Assyrians are Christians, kurds are all muslims..... Assyrians all the way mother fuckers
rb26dett4life 1 year ago
hey fuck of, there is no kurdish language, there is only Suryoyo language, kurds even have no alphabet, what rubbish are they talking about these idiot kurds
Mozart888100 1 year ago
Ohhh yes, I speak Kurdish, and those Kurdish words were right, I think I only found 1-2 mistakes.
Sarezh998 1 year ago
kurd have nothing to do with assyria this is shit
dusakibu 1 year ago
ساضع مثالاً مشابهاً للذي قمت بوضعه،لكن للغة العربية:
كامرة:english-camera
قط:english-cat
بانيو:spanish-banio
ميرسي:franch-merci
هل من المعقول ان ننسب العربية الى اللاتينية؟
sankhiero 1 year ago
هل يمكن ان نقول ان اللغة العربية اصلها انجليزي او انها مليئة بمفردات انجليزية لمجرد استعمال مثلاً كلمة okay مع العلم يوجد لهذه الكلمة مرادفة في اللغة العربية
sankhiero 1 year ago
ما قد جعلني اضحك ان بعض الناس يقولون كلاما يشابه التالي:الولد علم والده الكثير من المفردات..اليس الاصح ان نقول ان الولد تعلم الكلام من ابيه؟حيث ان الاب اقدم و اعلم من الابن...اليس الاشوريون او السريان او الكلدان من اقدم ما دونه التاريخ؟
sankhiero 1 year ago
So your saying not 1 word that the modern Assyrians speak is their own??
And words like kosa (hair) & maymoon (monkey) is used by more than just arabs or assyrians. Try greeks, Macedonians etc. You are wrong.
Your clip is rubbish!!
Not 1 piece of historically backed piece of evidence.
If you rubbish others to make yourself seem more superior its often the case that you have NOTHING to offer. hahaha, fool!
MesopotamiaGod 1 year ago
"Assyrians,nestorium rite church" was centered in Iraq in the Sassanian empire, Its no surprise that its people are primarily Iranic.
Obasiliasfilosofos 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
so much to assyrian empire....chaldeans are the one's who are pure.
Khatar11 1 year ago
WRONG parts, Waraqa comes from Proto-Semitic *Waraq meaning leaf or green, so Waraqa is Syriac and Arabic since both languages are Semitic. Gami is actua