@seriouslycurious1 yes i agree. god is energy. there's no other explanation for it. energy can neither be created nor destroyed thus energy is merely a manifestation of god and the energy transferred is the creation itself i.e. our universe and potential parallel universes.
@seriouslycurious1 i'm a supporter of string theory. this is the theory of everything and it ties general relativity with quantum mechanics. also there's interesting outcomes of this theory. it also suggests that there are more dimensions to reality than meet the eye... 7 extra dimensions. god can dwell in one of these dimensions and god rides on light like you said. the particle for light is the photon caused by the propagation of electromagnetic waves through a medium such as space.
@seriouslycurious1 also, time wraps, so the various manifestations that have appeared throughout known time, major prophets, the lineage, etc, could very well be, so try to live love be, ok?
@soccerules1031 You see what going on here? When the evidence doesn't support you you say its not so even though science says it is. This is also whats happening when people are trying to go back to the old ancient belief that the universe is infinite when clearly science says its finite.
This is pathetic and only proves you're not a free thinker. You'll only follow the evidence if it leads to no God. Why not be a real freethinker and just follow the evidence where it leads?
@soccerules1031 "the list just keeps going. the universe is not tuned for anything"
Its a logical fallacy to assume attributes of the whole as attributes of the parts. The fact is the most world renowned scientists can conclude this and have evidence for it, and you having hardly any experience compared to Steven Hawkings, Albert Einstein, and Michio Kaku, who all have this same conclusion, means you are in no position to refute it.
The universe is finely tuned for life. That seems to suggest whatever made or makes the fundamental properties of the universe was sentient enough to have complex life in mind.
just leaving my two cents, as i see it, the human consciousness that u refer to is not the same shared with god, because in this life your have identity and an ego that you must for most of the circumstances in your life. god being energy he doesnt have a personal identity but rather an eternal level of vibrations that generates love and connect the higher conciousness deep within us as one. we must go throught different experiences in life, to get a grasp and comprehend this.
@miksedene God is not energy but god causes energy and energy causes matter. In reality energy and matter are absolutely nothing for there existence is illusory. God can be considered indivisible in-finite perception, it is ONE. Perception perceives itself and this causes consciousness. There is only perception and consciousness, consciousness is what the one existence, you me and everyone uses to know itself. We are God and God is the sole existence, the only reality.
Although I hope this explanation intrigues you I do not expect you to understand it. I just hope it intrigues you enough to listen to me when I tell you.. Meher Baba explains everything, read and study the life and work of Meher Baba.
one thing is god can come through you if you believe look at jesus for example god came through him he showed us an example if we believe in god and be righteous he'll will send us a spirit of god and the spirit of god will be through us the believers think like we're the tool what god can use we're gods tool here is a saying someone taught me do your best and let god do all the rest
All life, words, energy mean everything but also mean nothing. Defining life or god is flaw in the human mind, the quest for meaning where there is none!
Our position SO chaotic it would destroy any stable mind if it because aware of this state!
Birth-breed-die......I am sorry that's it! If you manage to get $100,000,000 whilst your here as well Great. But the sum total is death and annihilation.
Came across this a little late, but it's just what I needed! I was talking theology with my (Christian) mother and she brought up the fact that she considers God to be this big ball of energy and that when we die, all the energy in our bodies (our souls) leave the body and go off to join the big ball of energy (God). A ball of energy she likes to talk and pray to and feels comfort in the thought that it listens. I wasn't sure how to respond to that, but this video helps. Thanks!
The word God has so many meanings. We make our assumptions based on our intelligence but even that is limited, so we keep on guessing. Needing to know how we got here isn't half as important as what do we do now that we're here is. The wise make peace by the allowing of misunderstanding and ignorance to a certain point. Chaos is a natural part of life. Life moves forward evolving into a better consciousness reason and logic will prevail.
It would be better if it was even half way funny and not completely annoying. But you can click something to flip it back around, on the right hand side of this page.
I remember reading somewhere that some insane Christians personified the planet earth by saying it is a single conscious entity, therefore, capable of sin and as a whole, worthy of hell.
Don't you just hate it when the substitute ontologies?
You said you heard some arguments for matter other than brains having consciousness. Is that a reference to Hameroff and Penrose? As I understand it they have arguments for biological tissues having consciousness, but I haven't heard anyone claim that a rock or such things have consciousness. Can you drop a few names? I'll do the research. Cheers.
It's not an argument that objects have consciousness as we recognise it, simply an argument that if you take a certain definition of consciousness you are forced to say that everything is conscious. I can't give you the names as I didn't study it in depth. The view is called 'panpsychism' and it appears as a response to functionalist theories of mind and matter.
Thanks. I just did a little bit of reading on it. I think I remember John Searle mention it in a lecture once. I believe he used the word 'absurd'.
It doesn't seem to be testable, or even (as I understand it) to solve anything. We are still left with the hard problem. How does somehow-slightly-conscious matter come together to be the subjective experience of a human? We may as well stick with emergentism and try to solve that.
Firstly, it's a philosophical criticism of a certain type of materialism, so it is by nature untestable. Secondly, although I don't know what you read I don't have too much of a problem with it as all the view states is that if you take a functionalist approach (which I am tempted to do) you end up having to apply the word 'conscious' to all objects. This isn't a problem in itself as it doesn't imply that everything is sentient as we know it, it simply devalues the concept of consciousness.
Certainly does. To the point of meaninglessness. If a proton is 'conscious', then it must be some epiphenomena that has no discernible effect on its behaviour. Occam's razor neatly slices it off.
I had just read the wiki article on it, but later I checked out the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy entry on panpsychism. It seems William James made the same criticism I did. He called it the 'combination problem'. Check it out. :)
I might just do that. To be honest, I have no problem with consciousness being meaningless but as you say, the point is that it's not a useful concept in this view. That's why I asked the question, I'm wondering if theprodigy2168 is approaching it from some alternate route.
GOD IS ENERGY
seriouslycurious1 1 year ago
@seriouslycurious1 yes i agree. god is energy. there's no other explanation for it. energy can neither be created nor destroyed thus energy is merely a manifestation of god and the energy transferred is the creation itself i.e. our universe and potential parallel universes.
FallofDarkness55 1 year ago
@FallofDarkness55 no it's more than that, god rides on light or something, i dunno, i'm not a fucking particle physicist, rrgg
seriouslycurious1 1 year ago
@seriouslycurious1 i'm a supporter of string theory. this is the theory of everything and it ties general relativity with quantum mechanics. also there's interesting outcomes of this theory. it also suggests that there are more dimensions to reality than meet the eye... 7 extra dimensions. god can dwell in one of these dimensions and god rides on light like you said. the particle for light is the photon caused by the propagation of electromagnetic waves through a medium such as space.
FallofDarkness55 1 year ago
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seriouslycurious1 1 year ago
@seriouslycurious1 lmfao. do your research on string theory first before commenting again. you sound ignorant.
FallofDarkness55 1 year ago
@FallofDarkness55 dont have time, got a message several years ago things are gonna be okay, go figure
seriouslycurious1 1 year ago
@FallofDarkness55 and i dont appreciate you telling me what to think, buddy, that's the end of our conversation
seriouslycurious1 1 year ago
@FallofDarkness55 or say
seriouslycurious1 1 year ago
@FallofDarkness55 but you better listen to your conscience, because it's definately an inside job
seriouslycurious1 1 year ago
@seriouslycurious1 also, time wraps, so the various manifestations that have appeared throughout known time, major prophets, the lineage, etc, could very well be, so try to live love be, ok?
seriouslycurious1 1 year ago
@seriouslycurious1 and keep doing the next right thing
seriouslycurious1 1 year ago
@soccerules1031 You see what going on here? When the evidence doesn't support you you say its not so even though science says it is. This is also whats happening when people are trying to go back to the old ancient belief that the universe is infinite when clearly science says its finite.
This is pathetic and only proves you're not a free thinker. You'll only follow the evidence if it leads to no God. Why not be a real freethinker and just follow the evidence where it leads?
nazra7 1 year ago
@soccerules1031 "the list just keeps going. the universe is not tuned for anything"
Its a logical fallacy to assume attributes of the whole as attributes of the parts. The fact is the most world renowned scientists can conclude this and have evidence for it, and you having hardly any experience compared to Steven Hawkings, Albert Einstein, and Michio Kaku, who all have this same conclusion, means you are in no position to refute it.
nazra7 1 year ago
The universe is finely tuned for life. That seems to suggest whatever made or makes the fundamental properties of the universe was sentient enough to have complex life in mind.
nazra7 1 year ago
just leaving my two cents, as i see it, the human consciousness that u refer to is not the same shared with god, because in this life your have identity and an ego that you must for most of the circumstances in your life. god being energy he doesnt have a personal identity but rather an eternal level of vibrations that generates love and connect the higher conciousness deep within us as one. we must go throught different experiences in life, to get a grasp and comprehend this.
Deismcomprehension 1 year ago
@miksedene God is not energy but god causes energy and energy causes matter. In reality energy and matter are absolutely nothing for there existence is illusory. God can be considered indivisible in-finite perception, it is ONE. Perception perceives itself and this causes consciousness. There is only perception and consciousness, consciousness is what the one existence, you me and everyone uses to know itself. We are God and God is the sole existence, the only reality.
soldatheero 1 year ago
Although I hope this explanation intrigues you I do not expect you to understand it. I just hope it intrigues you enough to listen to me when I tell you.. Meher Baba explains everything, read and study the life and work of Meher Baba.
soldatheero 1 year ago
one thing is god can come through you if you believe look at jesus for example god came through him he showed us an example if we believe in god and be righteous he'll will send us a spirit of god and the spirit of god will be through us the believers think like we're the tool what god can use we're gods tool here is a saying someone taught me do your best and let god do all the rest
jonathonbaur123 1 year ago
All life, words, energy mean everything but also mean nothing. Defining life or god is flaw in the human mind, the quest for meaning where there is none!
Our position SO chaotic it would destroy any stable mind if it because aware of this state!
Birth-breed-die......I am sorry that's it! If you manage to get $100,000,000 whilst your here as well Great. But the sum total is death and annihilation.
Halboy10 2 years ago
I like this guy. He's got a proper head on his shoulders.
gonzoimperialism009 2 years ago
Came across this a little late, but it's just what I needed! I was talking theology with my (Christian) mother and she brought up the fact that she considers God to be this big ball of energy and that when we die, all the energy in our bodies (our souls) leave the body and go off to join the big ball of energy (God). A ball of energy she likes to talk and pray to and feels comfort in the thought that it listens. I wasn't sure how to respond to that, but this video helps. Thanks!
Andalitebandit6 2 years ago
The word God has so many meanings. We make our assumptions based on our intelligence but even that is limited, so we keep on guessing. Needing to know how we got here isn't half as important as what do we do now that we're here is. The wise make peace by the allowing of misunderstanding and ignorance to a certain point. Chaos is a natural part of life. Life moves forward evolving into a better consciousness reason and logic will prevail.
Sammybizness 2 years ago
why is everything upside down? i hate this lol
sandman3698 2 years ago
It's Youtube's idea of an April Fools day joke.
conradleviston 2 years ago
It would be better if it was even half way funny and not completely annoying. But you can click something to flip it back around, on the right hand side of this page.
TheStig000 2 years ago
I appear to be the only one on youtube that does not see anything upside down. lol
Brianswers 2 years ago
same!
MrDJLaw 2 years ago
So... the definition of God is essentially the Borg?
I mean, they are connected in some weird energy way and yet, we assume that the Borg (Queen) is sentient.
Borg=God. Just another reason to watch Star Trek.
Numfarh 2 years ago
:-) yep, star trek is way too cool man
heethen1 2 years ago
Why the fuck should we call it God with that definition? I believe we already have a word for that: "matter".
anthonzi 2 years ago 2
I remember reading somewhere that some insane Christians personified the planet earth by saying it is a single conscious entity, therefore, capable of sin and as a whole, worthy of hell.
FallenAngel0fDoom 2 years ago
You look upside down :P
MelCartman 2 years ago
Don't you just hate it when the substitute ontologies?
You said you heard some arguments for matter other than brains having consciousness. Is that a reference to Hameroff and Penrose? As I understand it they have arguments for biological tissues having consciousness, but I haven't heard anyone claim that a rock or such things have consciousness. Can you drop a few names? I'll do the research. Cheers.
riversonthemoon 2 years ago
It's not an argument that objects have consciousness as we recognise it, simply an argument that if you take a certain definition of consciousness you are forced to say that everything is conscious. I can't give you the names as I didn't study it in depth. The view is called 'panpsychism' and it appears as a response to functionalist theories of mind and matter.
miksedene 2 years ago
Thanks. I just did a little bit of reading on it. I think I remember John Searle mention it in a lecture once. I believe he used the word 'absurd'.
It doesn't seem to be testable, or even (as I understand it) to solve anything. We are still left with the hard problem. How does somehow-slightly-conscious matter come together to be the subjective experience of a human? We may as well stick with emergentism and try to solve that.
riversonthemoon 2 years ago
Firstly, it's a philosophical criticism of a certain type of materialism, so it is by nature untestable. Secondly, although I don't know what you read I don't have too much of a problem with it as all the view states is that if you take a functionalist approach (which I am tempted to do) you end up having to apply the word 'conscious' to all objects. This isn't a problem in itself as it doesn't imply that everything is sentient as we know it, it simply devalues the concept of consciousness.
miksedene 2 years ago
"it simply devalues the concept of consciousness"
Certainly does. To the point of meaninglessness. If a proton is 'conscious', then it must be some epiphenomena that has no discernible effect on its behaviour. Occam's razor neatly slices it off.
I had just read the wiki article on it, but later I checked out the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy entry on panpsychism. It seems William James made the same criticism I did. He called it the 'combination problem'. Check it out. :)
riversonthemoon 2 years ago
I might just do that. To be honest, I have no problem with consciousness being meaningless but as you say, the point is that it's not a useful concept in this view. That's why I asked the question, I'm wondering if theprodigy2168 is approaching it from some alternate route.
miksedene 2 years ago