The 2-stage secret rapture is indeed a lie. The disciples did ask where the ones gathered will go:
"I tell you, in that night there will be two in one bed. One will be taken and the other left. There will be two women grinding together. One will be taken and the other left." And they said to him, "Where, Lord?" He said to them, "Where the corpse is, there the vultures will gather." Luke 17:34-37
Jesus WILL come, on the last day. Not in 2 stages. There will be no do-overs. No 2nd chances.
You have to look at the Bible in context. What was going on in II Thess. 2 is that there were people going around saying that Christ's second coming had already come and people were starting to become discouraged and deceived. But even in the same chapter verse 7 says that "He that restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way" Which means the antichrist wont reveal himself till all signs of God's Spirit is gone hence the Rapture. The antichrist's treaty with Israel starts the Tribulatin
For the record, the rapture is commonly mistaken as the second coming of Christ. It is not the second coming. For it to be the second coming, Christ would have to literally come back to earth, which the Bible does say will happen after the Tribulation. II Thess. does say that Christ will not come until the great falling away and the antichrist is manafest. But the reference of Christ's return and the gathering of the believing to Him was made only to assure the people that it hadn't happened yet
What a joke. Is that supposed to be a scare tactic to cause people to believe a lie? Um, where does it say in the Bible that people are going to disappear? Oh yeah, it doesn't! As a matter of fact, II Thes. 2 says that the anti-christ comes first. Also, in Mark 13 Jesus Himself says that He will return AFTER the great tribulation. Wake up. Open your eyes. Study your Bible. Don't drop it on the ground like the guy in this video.
reaper, you are an atheist because your ancestors were apes and you don't have the cognitive abilities of higher spiritually minded individuals. You must be made in the image of God to know God, but since you are made in the image of an ape, you can not know God. Sad for you little ape boy.
reaper, you are right, indoctrination causes people to believe something without reasonable evidence. During your childhood you were taught there is no God and that your ancestors are apes. That's a sad thing that you were abused like that as a child but if you ask God to show himself to you and you are earnest in your heart, then you will see God. But for now you are blind, blinded by the illusion the world has fed you, and you are hell bound and without hope of salvation. God have mercy.
@AstronomyGuru1 have you never had a strong religious childhood or religion if you did you would know God and know that he isnt suppose to make his existence known but in the bible he did back then now days man has screwed up and God does not make much strong interactions with man , and religion is NOT about money and controlment its the church im christian and i dont beat the word into people and i go to church 1 time every two months and God still reconizes me
@reaper83001 Indoctrination causes people to believe something without reasonable evidence. During childhood it's most effective, we absorb knowledge like a sponge and are wired to trust authority figures. There's no reason to believe the bible is true, anymore than all the other supposed holy books. The reason you don't take those other books seriously, is the same reason why people don't take the bible seriously. Saying God doesn't show because man screwed up is an untestable excuse.
Ok i for one am not going to have some random person tell me when im going to die. Im 18 years old just graduated and im going to live my life. I believe in god and we have a relationship and i know where i stand with him. But someone who says i talk to god is not gonna tell me right from wrong!
i stoped reading that crap that someone wrote so long ago. i think its just a cult or maybe a reason for making people feel better that when a loved one dies they are in "a better place" they're not. And if they are its only because they are not on this corrupted planet anymore.. period. this world will keep on spinning. its not a god or his son that will dominate this world or end it.. it is just distruction. just plain out physical distruction.
I personally, do not believe there will be that many gone, I believe that only a handfull of those in church will be taken. why? just look at some of the responses, they are so true, people "professing", but not following The Lord......
The Lord Says...... IF YOU LOVE ME, YOU WILL KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS.....
this does not mean they are kept out of obligation, but out of love for the Lord. When you love some one you do things to please them, not displease them. Sin Displeases God!
@winterstellar WHAT YOU SAID IS FUNNY LOL. BUT THE BIBLE SAY UNLESS A MAN IS BORN AGAIN HE CAN NOT ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD. AGAIN THE BIBLE SAYS A FOOL SAID IN HIS HEART THAT THERE IS NO GOD. YESHUA HAMASHIYAC WHO IS CALLED IN THE YORUBA LANGUAGE (JESU) WILL COME DOWN TO EARTH FROM HEAVEN RIDING ON A WHITE HORSE WITH THE ARMY OF HEAVEN TO SMITE THE NATION AND HE SHALL RULE THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON.
what makes me wounder is all relgions think there's the right one there so igonate its discusts me i dont hate for what anyone belives in but i am a person that every one forces there belives one me
for those who think this is a joke that they think they can add more to the scriptures, think again,,,god will add more plagues to their lives according to what is listed in the book,,,hear me not " I AM HE WHO SPEAKETH FROM WITHIN",,, REPENT!!!!!
Many profess to follow Jesus, yet it is not genuine when you see the same people outside of Church. If you are one of those Christians who are not following Christ, then start now. Repent, ask him to change you and then follow Him. Repent of sins and turn away from wickedness. That is your salvation and walk with God. Please don't be one of those people who say "Lord, Lord" and hear back, "Depart from me , I do not know you."
why would the first part of the Bible be true and the rest be false. Jesus is real and thee most relavant person in the Bible. No man shall see the Father Unless he comes through the Son. Accept Jesus please believe in Jesus and you shall be saved I love and God does as well. Be Blessed
This whole New Testament is false Ahch. Yah is one and always has been Isaiah 43:11, There never was a "Jesus the only begotten son". Yah had only one son and that is all of Israel Exodus 4:22, II Samuel 7:14. The old testament never speaks of this Jesus. Emanuel which means (The strong one is with you) was Isaiah's son. Isaiah 53 was speaking of all of Israel just look at verse 10 it says, "he shall see his seed" and prolong his days. Christ had no children and died at age 33.
@iam7who7iam7 I will pray for you, you have it all wrong. Jesus is the Only begotten Son of the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. He is the fulfillment of a promise He (God) made of a Savior long ago. If Jesus isn't the promise, then why has there been no prophet for Israel in the past 2500 years? Read Isaiah 53....how was Israel a guilt offering? How did Israel bear griefs? How can they atone sin? They cannot, but JESUS DID! He was pierced for our transgressions (v. 5) on a cross.
A pre-trib rapture makes no sense and is merely inferred by Christians who want to be taken out of the way. Are there two raptures? There would have to be if a pre-trib one was correct, because of the martyrs and saints during the tribulation period. The rapture is obviously at the end of the tribulation, before the battle of Armageddon.
Oh my gosh! The footage of the universe at the beginning of the clip is completely unexplained by religion! But totally explained by science! If you believe in a 'rapture' you're an idiot.
@bregan8813 The beginning of the Universe is not explained by science. The Big Bang is an hypothesis with no evidence. There was nothing, then it became something, then it exploded... C'mon! Where did the elements come from, the energy? Science does not explain it. That is a lie.
@BogusDonut. It's a theory. just like gravity, newtonian physics, and that the sun is hot. These are all substantiated by lots of provable science, mathematics and simple observation. What's the idea of a 'rapture'? Nothing but yet another in a long succession of mythological mutation of humankind's fear of dying, void of any verifiable or provable truths. You can believe if you want, I guess... but wouldn't it be better to use your brain and find truth?
But we can prove gravity. I jump and I fall. When the sun is behind the clouds its cool. On a cloudless day, we can feel the heat from the sun and know without a doubt that the sun is hot. We cannot prove that an explosion that was isolated from all forms of matter created life.
when god comes the wicked will be destroyed by the brightness of his comming 2 Thessalonians 2: 8, there is no second chance just as the days of lot and noah where so shall the comming of the son of man shall be. THe wicked people outside of the ark died, the people in sodom and gomarh died. Jeremiah 4: 23- 26 says the world will have no habitations. The left behind theory doesnt fit nowhere in the bible.
Why do you all think that people will be disapearing all over. This is a lie we have to understand the bible for ourselves not what someone has been telling you traditionally. We go with one persons belief and we run with it. There will be no Raptue. This is a false teaching. We wil have to go through some or maybe through all of the tribulation.
"is a dubious idea of creator 's activitiesand god saw the light and that it was good""is a dubious idea of creator 's activitiesand. this video intention is to reinforce the belief system that if you dont believe you will not disapear and be left out of the systems they believe in, it is a paranoid type reaction emotive to those that are not totally down with the belief system they all in on to one degree of total belief the good ones and those with some unbeliefs bad ones.
WOOOOW JUST WOOW theres a longer version, gahhhhh AMEN AMEN AMEN!!!! i hav an "interesting" bond with god, but i wanna change, i dont wanna get left bhind, no way "I WANNA GO TO MY REAL HOME" :DDDD WHOS WITH ME?!!!!!!
@juventinorocks any sin that comes your way, cast it away in jesus name. it is NOT worth an eternity in hell no matter what! christ wants us to be image bearer's of him alone.
Dude its really scary because i wanna ask a question im 11 years old i pray to God everynight but not every morning i go to church sometimes and most of the time if i dont go to church i read 2 bible stories,If i pray for Jesus to come in my life does that mean i must stop doing all bad things i do despite how old i am??
@ninjastick5 ye it does u are yung ng growing but angels r watching... go to church every saturday and honor the lord. keep his commandments and laws...the truth is real
@ninjastick5 keep your head up bud and try to live as the Lord lived, we are all naturally sinners no one is perfect but it doesnt give you the excuse to do bad things....itll happen but repent your sins and pray every day...the more the Lord is in your thoughts the more you will be like Him...stand up for Him and spread faith it might be 2, 4 even 50 or a hundred years before judgement will pass....me personally i think itll be here before we know it....if the Lords in your heart youll be fine
@ninjastick5 you must repent all sin and trust and obey jesus christ's command for all the days of your life and you will enter into the gates of heaven for eternity. i promise you.
Rapture first before tribulation. The saved righteous people who obtained forgiveness of sin, put in his hearts that their sins are washed away by Jesus' blood on the cross, made righteous by the Grace of God and forever righteous through the power of Jesus Christ, and not by thier own effort will be raptured. Not all saved will be raptured to give others to receive the Gospel of Salvation. then tribulation comes
@iheartkpop031 no such thing buddy u must not really read the bible and jus listen to preachers. no one is saved til the end and after judgement...u must beleive ppl r already in heaven to...and why wud all MIGHTY GOD take us away if heaven is on earth pointless aint it
Xtian leaders have been telling their flocks the the Rapture is coming for centuries to keep them obedient and emptying their pockets for centuries. End times prophecies have been documented since approximately 634BCE. The true end of the Earth will come in about 4.5 billion years when our sun goes nova. If you can tell me why you dismiss all other end times prophecies (past/present/future) then you will understand why I dismiss your bronze age story. The Rapture isn't truth, it is Fear.
@OneSoullessAtheist According to some of the other prophecies it won't take forever to happen, it's around the corner. I got no clue what "Xtian" leaders are oh wait now I get it (Christian Leaders.. ha ha... I just woke up, not Miss Morning Sunshine here). I get what you're saying; I've come across a lot of greedy Xtian leaders, but also across ones that aren't in it for the gold or glory. They're not all the same. No one knows the time or day. Just be ready dude. :)
BOTTOM LINE!!! Whether the rapture or tribulation comes first; we're are to do what we were born to do: Spread the word of faith. Our words are not the only ones that speak. We are to watch our actions. We are an Army of One. We gotta have each others backs. Prayer. May God bless the world.
@jcampos713 there is no rapture lmfao.no such thing buddy u must not really read the bible and jus listen to preachers. no one is saved til the end and after judgement...u must beleive ppl r already in heaven to...and why wud all MIGHTY GOD take us away if heaven is on earth pointless aint it
you can not prove that the following statement is not an accurate statement, and if it is accurate a pretrib. rapture is impossible:
The day of the Lord, I Thess. 5:2, is the "same day (hour)" Christians meet the Lord in the air, I Thess. 4:17 "AND" the Wicked man of sin consumed, II Thess. 2:8-dragon/devil bound Rev 20:2 and his/the 2nd world kingdom (Rev.13:11) imposed the mark, kills saints, and received seven plagues "tribulation" Rev.15 is destroyed at Christ coming,
Your god has not had a single success yet. He made perfect angels. He made perfect humans on a perfect earth. He had a perfect son. And all but a fraction of them end up tortured and dead. He ends up with a handful of buddies to lay around paradise with for ever while ALL the rest are destroyed or tortured for eternity. Has there ever been a bigger loser? Ever? And you think he's gonna show up and take you all to Disney World? Education dissolves religion. Get some.
That is the price of free will. There is only one thing God can't do and that's make us love him. If you had no free will you would still hate God because you would ask what kind of creator would make a being and force them to love him? 1930's Germany was the most educated society of the time, how did that work out? The most educated people in the world made the atom bomb too. The 2 biggest mass murderers in history, Mao and Stalin were atheists. You should work on that education a bit more....
"Love is God." I'm afraid I don't share your definition. "Dear Child, You are my offspring. Nothing will ever separate you from my love. I will always comfort you. Unless you don't believe me, or you're gay, or you voted for Obama, in which case I will torture you for ever and ever in the torture chamber I made. You know I'll do it, too. I already tortured and mutilated and killed and abandoned my only REAL son. Trust me. Your loving Father, God."
OMFG ahah LOL iam never gone believe that shit... U DUMB FUCKS!! PPL are the inventors or christianism..or how u call it...watch a movie..Mission with jeremy irons and de niro.yay i know its an historical event things like this hhave happened and behind this WAS GOD OMFG take of ur dark glasses morons...colonization of americas..the wanted with brute force killing stuffs for ppl from america to believe in OUR GOD!! they...nvm THINK MORONS there IS NO GOD not what bible says a man with beard haha
Way to call us dumb then butcher the English language. No one INVENTED Christianity. You think we should "watch a movie" to get information? Is that how YOU got your "information"? I can't even really decipher your comment but it made me mad because of the blatant ignorance of the faith of Christianity.
I guess theres no hope for those who get left behind?? I don't know what God they serve but the Lord I know wouldn't leave any of His children in the dark, not knowing what to do.. He's the shepard that would go back for that one lost sheep.. I don't believe in the rapture. We are in the Last Days, it will be the Last DAY!! You read that"Last DAY" not "DAYS".. I said DAY, is when hes going to make His return.
The people who get left behind can accept Christ even after the Christians are gone. There will still be Bibles and I'm sure there will be some people who knew of the rapture who will recognize when it happens.
I have always wanted to have a vision or dream about the rapture, well last night I didnt see the rapture happen but there was a Rapture count down calender thats the only way to describe it, And I looked at it saying WOW thats when the rapture will happen, when I woke up I new that I had seen how many days but all I could remember was it was less than 300 days
If God was like what these people described i wouldn't believe in him either! God demonstrated his love towards us through Jesus it says while we were yet sinners Christ died the Godly for the unGodly, if you really want God on HIS terms he will reveal himself to you by his Holy Spirit,God looks on the heart not the outward appearence. ASK him to show you what is the TRUTH I'm very confident he is able and willing if a person is genuinely seeking him.I hope you don't mind if i will pray for you
if the rapture really does ever happen, I dont see how the whole world WONT go christian. only the christians will be gone, and the rest of the world will say they were right all along, the first ever supernatual event witnessed by humanity, undeniable proof that the bible is right, the kinda evidence that agnostics like me need. I dont see hw anyone in their right mind wounldn turn to jesus because its obvious if they dont they will burn in hell, a gun pointed at your head is very convincing
@Teamfortresskilla These clips (some good some bad ) are out there to inform for that purpose,however people believe what they want to regardless of evidence Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead after 3 days and many belived, others went to tell the jewish authority and they plotted not only how to put jesus to death but also to kill Lazarus aswell! Bible says Light has come into the world but people PREFER to remain in darkness,and people believe a LIE because they do not LOVE the TRUTH
When Jesus was here the Jewish priests crucified him KNOWING he was the messiah ONLY the Messiah could do his miricles. ie cleansing lepars, raising someone from the dead AFTER 3 days he waited until 3 days as the jews believed a person could be ressusatated up to that point,after this great miricle many believed but others went and told the priests who then plotted how to kill Lazarus aswell as jesus some people won't believe no matter what happens because they don't WANT God.
Yea your right, I have heard many people who say that if they die there is a god, they will gladfully go to hell because they want nothing to do with a god who rules through fear, is a racist (only talks to jews, the "chosen ones") and a murderer (killed the first borns in egypt, and millions of others in the name of israel. and does not reaveal himself to tell us which religion is right thus allowing Billions to be led astray to hell. for me though, if theres a gun at my head, ill say anything
Wow!your so inteligent and convincing i must have got it wrong all these years,i guess after reading your wisdom i will have to renounce my faith and give it all up,please feel free to share more.
if your god is so good and full of love then pls answer why the god in the old testement was an evil wicked vengefull god. but then changed into a nice god for the new testement.
you are crazy! jesus was just a savior myth like hourus and mythrar and various others. if you believe in anything pls just check out the evidence first pls. you will realise a few things if you do i promise!
@Matyus So how will you deal with your own personal sinfullness '''the WAGES of sin are Death'' but the''GIFTof God is eternal life through Jesus Christ''. We are all accountable to God for our Sin how do you propose to deal with yours without a saviour?
i try not to do anything that i would call sinfull!
i dont need a threat of eternal hell to make me live my life in a good and right way. or the promise of a "heaven"
i am accountable to me for anything i do. not some made up fairy story like god/bible.
also if you read the bible. u will see that the god in the old testement was an evil wicked vengefull god. but then changed into a nice god for the new testement. READ IT YOURSELF! its aload of bull made up to keep people in line years ago!
@ matyus ''I try not to do anything I would call sinful'' so are you saying your sinless without fault? or your just a little bit Sinful? are you claiming to be Good but the only measuring stick is what you Think?
im saying that some people dont need to be scared into being good by religion. and the threat of eternal hell! i dont need that to live my life good and right. and noone is perfect, but i live my life right! you seem to be worried about your own "sins" but i dont need a fake belief to justify what i do. but you seem to.
and yes i am claiming to be good. or at least the best person i can be. im no slave to a fake god/belief.
I'm no slave to a ''f'ake God'' either, because i KNOW he's real I submit willingly to the Lord Jesus Christ,you God haters are all the same drowning in your own arrogance it's not a problem if you don't believe though as it won't alter the fact that Christians stand before the judgement seat of Christ and unbelievers will stand before God at the Great white throne judgement , so go ahead and spew your bile it's still gonna happen.Oh and you still didn't answer my questions?
I have a subjective experience of Christ inside me through thePOWER of the Holyspirit (Born again) that proves to me what I'm sure of,What you got? 1corinth ch2 v14 ''But the natural man recieveth not the things of the spirit of God for they are foolishness to him because they are spiritually discerned'' I don't have a religious belief i have a relationship with God through grace, your beliefs, are they strong enough for you to die for? where does the concept of Sin come from?
I believe in God but I would never Judge you for what you believe in, some people think their representing the Lord but just like Moses in the Desert when he hit the rock and accused the people, he couldnt enter in the promise land cause he misrepresented the Lord. Sometimes people step out of their authority and think they are right in wat they are saying.. I jus want to apologize on the churches behalf for judging you, God doesnt judge you, Hes loves you.. Sorry for their attacks, be Blessed!
@punkinthepark ''God is not STRICTLY wicked?'' so is he a bit wicked then? sounds like we got a schizophrenic on our hands! the scripture says ''I am the LORD who CHANGES NOT. I wouldn't stone you because I'm as guilty of sin as you are before God .Jesus said ''he that is without sin cast the 1st stone'' also if you want a definition of Morality jesus said ''Love thy neigbour as thyself''and read 1 corinthians chapter 13.
@kate151269 - It's sickening that you find it humorous that the being you think runs it all has committed some of the most horrific acts. Clearly your judgment is a bit diluted. All you do is show exactly how hypocritical God is. I mention how he murders millions, then you mention some lame ass verse mentioning how he loves us. I mention how he DEMANDED people murder members of their own family, and you mention how he sent his only son to save us. You're delusional.
I'm not laughing I'm mocking your logic that says Gods not ''Strictly Wicked'' if he murdered millions on a whim do you think you would still be alive? no but as the Bible says he is longsuffering towards us giving us time to repent as he is not willing any should perish but all should come to a knowledge of the truth. this is my last comment to you on this so you can post your final comment to me and offload all you would like to say and we will call it a day thanks.
@kate151269- I thought it was clear what I meant by "Not strictly wicked". Obviously I was pointing out that God has done some wonderful things, but those don't justify how terrible he can be. Just because someone "Loves" you and promises you great pleasures, doesn't mean they have the right to massacre millions and to demand Human beings take wicked actions. What does him murdering millions have anything to do with me being alive?? I'm not sure wheat ur trying to get at.
(Cont) where as, if a species of animal discovers that by working together they can obtain food more efficiently, than it's very likely that an animal would treat those members better. Working together = more food = survival. From there, as our history shows us, we discover what makes people happy and sad. Religion has played a KEY ROLE in molding our current moral standards. If you took all your morals from the bible then why arn't you stoning me to death? Will you murder your kids for God?
This is a nice MYTH. It would make a lovely New Age children's story book. Of course some creatures exist symbiotically, yet this is not a mind process. Creatures don't in nature CONCEPTUALIZE cooperation. They more often than not CONSUME one another. Sure they invite one another to a lovely communal dinner! The weakest one is served! Nature is not the ORGANIZING, LOVING, FRIENDLY thing you are DEIFYING. It is a DESTROYER. It will RAVAGE your aging body and make SURE you are EXPENDABLE.
This fairy tale is one of the latest attempts of atheist biologists to explain the origins of moral behavior. They want to REDUCE all phenomena to the biologically explicable, pretending to solve the mind/body problem. Silly biologists! We can't explain everything! Many physicists looking for Unified Field Theory understand this. Explanations of EVERYTHING are essentially explanations of NOTHING. Logic can not explain itself. The derivation of things must be EXTERNAL to themselves.
@jhall38 - Biologists attempts at explaining moral behavior have nothing to do with REDUCING all phenomena, that's ridiculous and you know it. Some people blow my mind sometimes. Dude, through EVIDENCE and observation this is clearly the most likely, and most evident way our morals evolved. It's fucking insane that people refuse to understand reality. You obviously refuse to think logically. As i've said...evidence. The world will be a better place when it comes to terms without fairy tales.
The real issue in moral thought involves creatures doing things for other creatures that could bring DIRECT HARM to themselves, just for the other creature's benefit. Your explanation of self-serving moral behavior does not answer this question. Nice try.
Why aren't you being stoned? Well, were the Mosaic laws in force, you might be, but there would be ways around that. I'm not sure why you think the law of Moses would have condemned you with stoning. Why? Under Jesus and the church, you would NOT be stoned. That's silly.
If you would just give the morality you're proposing here some thought, you might find it as disgusting as I do. Do you think that it is a praiseworthy thing that I should be good to others only if doing so BENEFITS me? This is EVIL in the final analysis. Jesus said that if you love those that love you it is NOTHING. You must do good to those who ABUSE you. The moral bar you think you've described is just INSTINCTUAL behavior. It represents LOW LEVEL, amoral behavior.
Your way of talking about the Bible lacks such accuracy as to be DISHONEST. If you have read ANYTHING AT ALL in the Bible. how can you come away with the thinking that STONING is a legal answer provided by the followers of Jesus? Morality in scripture is not MONOLITHIC. It is represented in various, CHANGING legal structures. The law of Moses is just one. Followers of Jesus don't follow Moses, not being covenanted under the law but under grace. Do you think Jesus would have stoned you?
the world was not created 6thousand years ago where did they get that from... or was it? :S :S :S :S :S :S :S then all the dinosours and science carbon dating would be wrong?
Pick your myth, man. The truth is, there is NO OBSERVATIONAL SCIENCE regarding ultimate origins. There is also good philosophical evidence that our origins can not be explained materialistically. That is, it would be CIRCULAR REASONING to say that material things MADE the first MATERIAL THINGS. The truth must be that something BEYOND nature caused NATURAL things to begin existing. We have to work with ASSUMPTIONS. I choose to BELIEVE the Bible's narrative. It has more authority than I do.
Ever increasing number generation is a trick. Materialists think that giving ever more billions of years to their findings will somehow overcome the problem of origins. Dating is sometimes manufactured. How old is this fossil? Well, it's a billion years old. How do we know? Well, because it was found in a layer we know is a billion years old. How do we know how old that layer is? Well, because of the age of fossils found there. So much so-called evolutionary biology is STORY-TELLING.
Atheistic perpetual motion machines must be abandoned. Motion is not getting more energetic in the universe. Energy is being LOST. In the beginning was God. He created EVERYTHING that is. Since then, everything has been on a downward spiral, since that is its nature, to go down towards entropy, towards less complex ways of interaction. Our only hope out of this unwinding is to seek God. God did not create a perfect universe. That would have been impossible, since God could not make Himself.
Consider the argument of the First Cause. It comes from one of the most basic relationships in science, CAUSALITY. Time and space are our ways of understanding events. Consider that any event Y to the nth has a cause Y to the nth - 1. This causation extends backwards indefinitely, yet not infinitely. Either postulate a beginning to the sequence of causes in time or postulate INFINITE REGRESSION, an absurdity. A universe without a beginning is an absurdity. God is the Necessary First Cause.
Absolute relativism is an idea impossible to maintain. It is self-canceling. Absolutes may NEVER be dismissed, unless one is willing to give up THINKING itself. We have to have somewhere to start. This is at the level of our ASSUMPTIONS. A good place to begin is with the assumption that there is indeed a God. Otherwise, we simply can not explain how MATTER begins. It can not explain itself. That would be circular reasoning (begging the question). The best approach to this is to SEEK GOD.
This video is spreading false doctrine. The bible never teaches a pre-trib rapture. Jesus, Paul, Daiel and John all taught post-trib rapture. So where does the church get the idea for a pre-trib rapture if the bible never directly teaches that, but DOES DIRECTLY TEACH post trib rapture?
i agree olivertwisted but when adam and eve took of the forbidden tree man and women were sent to the gallows. forgiveness then was through sacrifice for attone for thier sins. when jesus died and was risen forgivness was through faith through grace. after that man was not inteded for heaven but hell. it was then mans choice to recieve the gift of christ or denie it. which is why there will be many many many more in hell than heaven. keep with the faith though man. glad to see your comment.
This is not surprising coming from an atheist. As with all other atheists, it takes a lot of arrogance to assume that material things like ourselves HAVE NO BEGINNING and so are ETERNAL. The fact that we don't get to BE God seems to escape atheists like Hume. Things that EXIST had to have a BEGINNING. Infinite regression is a logical ABSURDITY. There must have been a FIRST CAUSE which can not have the character of MATERIAL. In the end all the atheist has is circular reasoning.
@jhall38 No one said anything about being eternal...I have no idea how you think I would ever state anything as eternal. You seem to be dreaming up distorted ideas so you can make some sort of point, thus leading to you being right. Well you're wrong, of course. To assume there is anything supernatural when not ever has there been a piece of evidence to support such a claim is not only sad, but a state of delusion as well.
You seem to be missing the point. Nature can not explain the origin of nature. Something "trans nature" is needed to explain things. Otherwise, we're begging the question. Our conclusions are part of our assumptions.
@jhall38, no I get your point, I'm not saying I know how the UNiverse started...NO ONE KNOWS....yet. One day if our species lives long enough we may discover it, or maybe not....either way it'll take evidence.
You are still not giving your full attention. The IDEA of material things having ETERNAL existence is NOT scientific. Time IS limited, not eternal. Space is measured and so LIMITED, not ENDLESS and INFINITE. Infinity is a limit. No matter how many atoms there are, they are NUMBERED and so are NOT INFINITE. No matter how much time has passed since the initial CREATION event, the nanoseconds can be counted. Time is NOT and NEVER WILL BE INFINITE, no matter how much our science progresses.
No amount of evidence will EVER turn finite space into INFINITE space. No collection of events or units of time will ever equal INFINITY. Time had a beginning. Also, space is bounded. No number of quantities will ever in sum be INFINITE. Working backwards from our time and position, it is easy to consider that there MUST HAVE BEEN a FIRST CAUSE. This first cause is by definition outside the web of causation. Future advances in science can only CONFIRM this, as long as there is time & space.
The view that perhaps "one day if our species lives long enough we may discover it", regarding the question of origins, is a clever philosophic trick. It is used by atheists commonly. It is really just a scientific face of materialism, that all material things CAN be explained by other material things. It is the philosophical, materialist assumption that the only things that are REAL are touched, tasted, seen, smelled or heard. It is REDUCTIONIST since senses give only one type of knowledge.
Time is at hand when son will be against father, nation will rise against nation, kingdom against kindom. There will be wars, and rumors of wars, and there will be pestillance, famine, earthquake. these things will come like a birth paings of a woman as she is about to conceive. But His coming will not come emedietly for all the things must come to past. These are the sign that He is right at the door. Don't be offended have a great day.
Same to ya. You and your thoughts are your own instrument for your SOCIAL CONTROL. You can't HAVE YOUR CAKE and eat it too. Everyone must serve something. Bob Dillon. You're caught in your own web. The problem is that you don't have the discernment to choose which instrument of social control is best. Go get some of it. Read the Bible instead of taking the all too popular road of ignorantly trashing it. Be brave and go against your peers and be a Bible nut. Try it; you might like it.
@jhall38...Ugh, I have read the Bible. I was a Christian like most poor unsuspecting children who were brought up in America and too young to possibly know what they want to believe about existence. Luckily for me I have great genes...My father was a closet Atheist and so was my gramps, though I never knew this till after I became an Atheist. So naturally I was bright, and always told myself "This doesn't seem right, in fact it feels incredibly sad if this is how it is". Go to a museum.
While you may have read the Bible, something easily done in a few days' continuous reading, understanding its significance relative the many ideas/cultures represented in it is not so simple. Good understanding is the result of much work. It is an easy thing to trash by students who are either too lazy to actually explore its historic, cultural, linguistic roots or by those who just have an axe to grind. To the avid student, it can become a lifelong pursuit, an object of intense interest.
Why such anti-intellectualism? Do you realize that the ancient literature found in the Bible, of which there are 66 different books representing the cultures, writing styles, histories and concerns of many cultures, spans approximately four thousand years of early human history? Saying that a student of the Bible is a brainwashed moron sounds like brainwashing!. It is an uninformed bullying tactic, meant to demean, just "argumentum ad hominem". You should read it well. I doubt you have.
mathew 5:10-12 Blessed are those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when man cast insults at you, and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely, on account of Me. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in Heaven is great, for so they persecuted the prophets before you.
remember man was not supposed to go to heaven. Only through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ was it possible. We have to except his gift. It is a free gift. The gift of life. How i cannot wait to see my savior and worship him purely.
For one it is not a free gift. You have to give up everything that is fun in life. Second I never asked to be born, so why would I be accountable. Third, the whole concept is stupid. God sent himself to earth as a man, to sacrifice himself, to himself, so that his laws ( that he created) could be changed. This was the only way go could save us from a hell he created. An all powerful god and this was the only way. It is laughable.
Ityrone9009 It is because U have no understanding of scripture Ur idea of what is FUN IN LIFE is what? U have to know the whole story from its beginning,what happened and why He did not have to come and die and U find it laughable? U may stop laughing one day & it may be sooner than U think Find something better to do that you LIKE as clearly it is not here but U R here searching for TRUTH? It is a free gift,U confuse Ten Commandments with FUN you would miss?READ THEM=U miss which ones R fun?
chill out with the threats of hell. Funny you have to make someone believe in your stories by threatening them with eternal torture. I have studied the scripture, I was christian until about 9 months ago. You judge me before you know anything about me, Thats a really good christian value you have. Your just like all the rest of them. Hypocrite.
The 2-stage secret rapture is indeed a lie. The disciples did ask where the ones gathered will go:
"I tell you, in that night there will be two in one bed. One will be taken and the other left. There will be two women grinding together. One will be taken and the other left." And they said to him, "Where, Lord?" He said to them, "Where the corpse is, there the vultures will gather." Luke 17:34-37
Jesus WILL come, on the last day. Not in 2 stages. There will be no do-overs. No 2nd chances.
bibleortraditions 2 months ago
You have to look at the Bible in context. What was going on in II Thess. 2 is that there were people going around saying that Christ's second coming had already come and people were starting to become discouraged and deceived. But even in the same chapter verse 7 says that "He that restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way" Which means the antichrist wont reveal himself till all signs of God's Spirit is gone hence the Rapture. The antichrist's treaty with Israel starts the Tribulatin
NoahMartin14 4 months ago
For the record, the rapture is commonly mistaken as the second coming of Christ. It is not the second coming. For it to be the second coming, Christ would have to literally come back to earth, which the Bible does say will happen after the Tribulation. II Thess. does say that Christ will not come until the great falling away and the antichrist is manafest. But the reference of Christ's return and the gathering of the believing to Him was made only to assure the people that it hadn't happened yet
NoahMartin14 4 months ago
What a joke. Is that supposed to be a scare tactic to cause people to believe a lie? Um, where does it say in the Bible that people are going to disappear? Oh yeah, it doesn't! As a matter of fact, II Thes. 2 says that the anti-christ comes first. Also, in Mark 13 Jesus Himself says that He will return AFTER the great tribulation. Wake up. Open your eyes. Study your Bible. Don't drop it on the ground like the guy in this video.
GodsTruthSeeker 4 months ago
Mark 9:1 and Mark 13:30 says that the kingdom is already here.
k0smon 5 months ago
reaper, you are an atheist because your ancestors were apes and you don't have the cognitive abilities of higher spiritually minded individuals. You must be made in the image of God to know God, but since you are made in the image of an ape, you can not know God. Sad for you little ape boy.
tot792 5 months ago
reaper, you are right, indoctrination causes people to believe something without reasonable evidence. During your childhood you were taught there is no God and that your ancestors are apes. That's a sad thing that you were abused like that as a child but if you ask God to show himself to you and you are earnest in your heart, then you will see God. But for now you are blind, blinded by the illusion the world has fed you, and you are hell bound and without hope of salvation. God have mercy.
tot792 5 months ago
There have always been wars and natural disasters...this is not proof.
Cool effect when the good Christians disappeared and were Raptured. I guess the others did not do the Christian Side Hug.
deanosumo 8 months ago
@AstronomyGuru1 have you never had a strong religious childhood or religion if you did you would know God and know that he isnt suppose to make his existence known but in the bible he did back then now days man has screwed up and God does not make much strong interactions with man , and religion is NOT about money and controlment its the church im christian and i dont beat the word into people and i go to church 1 time every two months and God still reconizes me
reaper83001 8 months ago
@reaper83001 Indoctrination causes people to believe something without reasonable evidence. During childhood it's most effective, we absorb knowledge like a sponge and are wired to trust authority figures. There's no reason to believe the bible is true, anymore than all the other supposed holy books. The reason you don't take those other books seriously, is the same reason why people don't take the bible seriously. Saying God doesn't show because man screwed up is an untestable excuse.
Slanguaj 8 months ago 2
@AstronomyGuru1 ughhhh why..............?
reaper83001 8 months ago
Ok i for one am not going to have some random person tell me when im going to die. Im 18 years old just graduated and im going to live my life. I believe in god and we have a relationship and i know where i stand with him. But someone who says i talk to god is not gonna tell me right from wrong!
bethany271 8 months ago
i stoped reading that crap that someone wrote so long ago. i think its just a cult or maybe a reason for making people feel better that when a loved one dies they are in "a better place" they're not. And if they are its only because they are not on this corrupted planet anymore.. period. this world will keep on spinning. its not a god or his son that will dominate this world or end it.. it is just distruction. just plain out physical distruction.
ablenumbersix 8 months ago
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why are you calling God if you are not obeying Him
katsugemitchi 11 months ago
I personally, do not believe there will be that many gone, I believe that only a handfull of those in church will be taken. why? just look at some of the responses, they are so true, people "professing", but not following The Lord......
The Lord Says...... IF YOU LOVE ME, YOU WILL KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS.....
this does not mean they are kept out of obligation, but out of love for the Lord. When you love some one you do things to please them, not displease them. Sin Displeases God!
RM1USNRET 11 months ago
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winterstellar 1 year ago
@winterstellar WHAT YOU SAID IS FUNNY LOL. BUT THE BIBLE SAY UNLESS A MAN IS BORN AGAIN HE CAN NOT ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD. AGAIN THE BIBLE SAYS A FOOL SAID IN HIS HEART THAT THERE IS NO GOD. YESHUA HAMASHIYAC WHO IS CALLED IN THE YORUBA LANGUAGE (JESU) WILL COME DOWN TO EARTH FROM HEAVEN RIDING ON A WHITE HORSE WITH THE ARMY OF HEAVEN TO SMITE THE NATION AND HE SHALL RULE THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON.
topshotter001 8 months ago
@topshotter001 Actually I'm sorry about that comment. It was nasty and I don't remember making it. Sometimes I troll when I'm drunk.: (
winterstellar 8 months ago
what makes me wounder is all relgions think there's the right one there so igonate its discusts me i dont hate for what anyone belives in but i am a person that every one forces there belives one me
heretic1915 1 year ago
for those who think this is a joke that they think they can add more to the scriptures, think again,,,god will add more plagues to their lives according to what is listed in the book,,,hear me not " I AM HE WHO SPEAKETH FROM WITHIN",,, REPENT!!!!!
fh1564838 1 year ago
Many profess to follow Jesus, yet it is not genuine when you see the same people outside of Church. If you are one of those Christians who are not following Christ, then start now. Repent, ask him to change you and then follow Him. Repent of sins and turn away from wickedness. That is your salvation and walk with God. Please don't be one of those people who say "Lord, Lord" and hear back, "Depart from me , I do not know you."
t888m 1 year ago
wow this vid gives me chills every time <3 i love this and i hope lots of ppl come 2 kno Jesus by it! :)
bobobalinano1 1 year ago
why would the first part of the Bible be true and the rest be false. Jesus is real and thee most relavant person in the Bible. No man shall see the Father Unless he comes through the Son. Accept Jesus please believe in Jesus and you shall be saved I love and God does as well. Be Blessed
vwatts16 1 year ago
This whole New Testament is false Ahch. Yah is one and always has been Isaiah 43:11, There never was a "Jesus the only begotten son". Yah had only one son and that is all of Israel Exodus 4:22, II Samuel 7:14. The old testament never speaks of this Jesus. Emanuel which means (The strong one is with you) was Isaiah's son. Isaiah 53 was speaking of all of Israel just look at verse 10 it says, "he shall see his seed" and prolong his days. Christ had no children and died at age 33.
iam7who7iam7 1 year ago
@iam7who7iam7 I will pray for you, you have it all wrong. Jesus is the Only begotten Son of the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. He is the fulfillment of a promise He (God) made of a Savior long ago. If Jesus isn't the promise, then why has there been no prophet for Israel in the past 2500 years? Read Isaiah 53....how was Israel a guilt offering? How did Israel bear griefs? How can they atone sin? They cannot, but JESUS DID! He was pierced for our transgressions (v. 5) on a cross.
2007DNT 10 months ago
if you think that there have never been earthquakes, floods and wars before the past 20 years, your a moron.
fightstance 1 year ago
tis is totally acted out.... they are really bad actors and actresses
receivejesusnow 1 year ago
hey what is the music in the beginnning??
receivejesusnow 1 year ago
whoa did anyone create this vid?
receivejesusnow 1 year ago
Science creates life from inanimate things. Meaning: We can accomplish what these people say is God's domain.
Ginoindahaus 1 year ago
It's in a bronze age book, si it most be true!!!!! Hallelujah!!!!
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BogusDonut 1 year ago
A pre-trib rapture makes no sense and is merely inferred by Christians who want to be taken out of the way. Are there two raptures? There would have to be if a pre-trib one was correct, because of the martyrs and saints during the tribulation period. The rapture is obviously at the end of the tribulation, before the battle of Armageddon.
BogusDonut 1 year ago
Oh my gosh! The footage of the universe at the beginning of the clip is completely unexplained by religion! But totally explained by science! If you believe in a 'rapture' you're an idiot.
bregan8813 1 year ago
@bregan8813 The beginning of the Universe is not explained by science. The Big Bang is an hypothesis with no evidence. There was nothing, then it became something, then it exploded... C'mon! Where did the elements come from, the energy? Science does not explain it. That is a lie.
BogusDonut 1 year ago
@BogusDonut. It's a theory. just like gravity, newtonian physics, and that the sun is hot. These are all substantiated by lots of provable science, mathematics and simple observation. What's the idea of a 'rapture'? Nothing but yet another in a long succession of mythological mutation of humankind's fear of dying, void of any verifiable or provable truths. You can believe if you want, I guess... but wouldn't it be better to use your brain and find truth?
bregan8813 1 year ago
@bregan8813
But we can prove gravity. I jump and I fall. When the sun is behind the clouds its cool. On a cloudless day, we can feel the heat from the sun and know without a doubt that the sun is hot. We cannot prove that an explosion that was isolated from all forms of matter created life.
ParasiteQueen1 1 year ago
i love this video!!!! sosososo truuee!
bobobalinano1 1 year ago
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"I am coming quickly"
That's what she said!
ImChristopherRobin 1 year ago
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the day of the rapture is on may 21 2011!
makeme708 1 year ago
wow! great job! In the twinkling of an eye. He is coming and sooner than anyone thinks. Praise his name for there is none like him no not one!
MegaPaul1973 1 year ago
I just felt led to look for and share videos about the the rature;
gracely77 1 year ago
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BogusDonut 1 year ago
watch?v=LPfVc1UWx68 watch this one: rapture debate
BogusDonut 1 year ago
it really sad seeing those people left behind
idonotwastenames 1 year ago
when god comes the wicked will be destroyed by the brightness of his comming 2 Thessalonians 2: 8, there is no second chance just as the days of lot and noah where so shall the comming of the son of man shall be. THe wicked people outside of the ark died, the people in sodom and gomarh died. Jeremiah 4: 23- 26 says the world will have no habitations. The left behind theory doesnt fit nowhere in the bible.
Fakyou321 1 year ago
I don't think there would be any sound, but it's impressive.
Johngtr13 1 year ago
Why do you all think that people will be disapearing all over. This is a lie we have to understand the bible for ourselves not what someone has been telling you traditionally. We go with one persons belief and we run with it. There will be no Raptue. This is a false teaching. We wil have to go through some or maybe through all of the tribulation.
iam7who7iam7 1 year ago
50000 Prists have been educated By the CIA!!?
Ebdan88 1 year ago
this video makes me happy though. to hope that it does happen as quick as lightning/thunder from east to west
RedDragon915 1 year ago
lol I almost fell out of my chair!! O_O
lightning745 1 year ago
"is a dubious idea of creator 's activitiesand god saw the light and that it was good""is a dubious idea of creator 's activitiesand. this video intention is to reinforce the belief system that if you dont believe you will not disapear and be left out of the systems they believe in, it is a paranoid type reaction emotive to those that are not totally down with the belief system they all in on to one degree of total belief the good ones and those with some unbeliefs bad ones.
xtiml 1 year ago
WOOOOW JUST WOOW theres a longer version, gahhhhh AMEN AMEN AMEN!!!! i hav an "interesting" bond with god, but i wanna change, i dont wanna get left bhind, no way "I WANNA GO TO MY REAL HOME" :DDDD WHOS WITH ME?!!!!!!
juventinorocks 1 year ago
@juventinorocks im with you brother.
jgtheman84 1 year ago
@jgtheman84 AMMMMEN!!!!
juventinorocks 1 year ago
@juventinorocks any sin that comes your way, cast it away in jesus name. it is NOT worth an eternity in hell no matter what! christ wants us to be image bearer's of him alone.
jgtheman84 1 year ago
@jgtheman84 AGREEEEEED
juventinorocks 1 year ago
@tendure00 Amen:)
halb95 1 year ago
THATS ABOUT THE WAY ITS GONNA HAPPEN.
MDF12 1 year ago
Wow
24thchance 1 year ago
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aifammafiaaifam 1 year ago
Dude its really scary because i wanna ask a question im 11 years old i pray to God everynight but not every morning i go to church sometimes and most of the time if i dont go to church i read 2 bible stories,If i pray for Jesus to come in my life does that mean i must stop doing all bad things i do despite how old i am??
ninjastick5 1 year ago
@ninjastick5 ye it does u are yung ng growing but angels r watching... go to church every saturday and honor the lord. keep his commandments and laws...the truth is real
TheMrrudex3 1 year ago
@ninjastick5 keep your head up bud and try to live as the Lord lived, we are all naturally sinners no one is perfect but it doesnt give you the excuse to do bad things....itll happen but repent your sins and pray every day...the more the Lord is in your thoughts the more you will be like Him...stand up for Him and spread faith it might be 2, 4 even 50 or a hundred years before judgement will pass....me personally i think itll be here before we know it....if the Lords in your heart youll be fine
Billiever4life 1 year ago
@ninjastick5 you must repent all sin and trust and obey jesus christ's command for all the days of your life and you will enter into the gates of heaven for eternity. i promise you.
jgtheman84 1 year ago
Rapture first before tribulation. The saved righteous people who obtained forgiveness of sin, put in his hearts that their sins are washed away by Jesus' blood on the cross, made righteous by the Grace of God and forever righteous through the power of Jesus Christ, and not by thier own effort will be raptured. Not all saved will be raptured to give others to receive the Gospel of Salvation. then tribulation comes
iheartkpop031 1 year ago
@iheartkpop031 no such thing buddy u must not really read the bible and jus listen to preachers. no one is saved til the end and after judgement...u must beleive ppl r already in heaven to...and why wud all MIGHTY GOD take us away if heaven is on earth pointless aint it
TheMrrudex3 1 year ago
Xtian leaders have been telling their flocks the the Rapture is coming for centuries to keep them obedient and emptying their pockets for centuries. End times prophecies have been documented since approximately 634BCE. The true end of the Earth will come in about 4.5 billion years when our sun goes nova. If you can tell me why you dismiss all other end times prophecies (past/present/future) then you will understand why I dismiss your bronze age story. The Rapture isn't truth, it is Fear.
OneSoullessAtheist 1 year ago
@OneSoullessAtheist According to some of the other prophecies it won't take forever to happen, it's around the corner. I got no clue what "Xtian" leaders are oh wait now I get it (Christian Leaders.. ha ha... I just woke up, not Miss Morning Sunshine here). I get what you're saying; I've come across a lot of greedy Xtian leaders, but also across ones that aren't in it for the gold or glory. They're not all the same. No one knows the time or day. Just be ready dude. :)
ninashadows777 1 year ago
BOTTOM LINE!!! Whether the rapture or tribulation comes first; we're are to do what we were born to do: Spread the word of faith. Our words are not the only ones that speak. We are to watch our actions. We are an Army of One. We gotta have each others backs. Prayer. May God bless the world.
ninashadows777 1 year ago
@ninashadows777 Two hands doing are more affective than 1 billion hands clasped in prayer.
OneSoullessAtheist 1 year ago
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@OneSoullessAtheist That's pretty much what I said dude.
ninashadows777 1 year ago
there are something strange about the president of america now.. I mean Barrack Obama
insoyvideos 1 year ago
The tribulation will come before the rapture!
jcampos713 1 year ago
@jcampos713 there is no rapture lmfao.no such thing buddy u must not really read the bible and jus listen to preachers. no one is saved til the end and after judgement...u must beleive ppl r already in heaven to...and why wud all MIGHTY GOD take us away if heaven is on earth pointless aint it
TheMrrudex3 1 year ago
whoever reads this...pray for me...and yourself..God be with you.
Itstooshort22 1 year ago
Jeeeez I jumped out of my flamin chair - you scard the crap out of me - I refuse to live in fear!
Bundydeb1 1 year ago
"Christ is coming to take his church (his believers) to heaven. To never have to see this evil world again! Charist is Lord, and we are going home."
heavenbliss34 1 year ago
Dan
dktacts23 1 year ago
you can not prove that the following statement is not an accurate statement, and if it is accurate a pretrib. rapture is impossible:
The day of the Lord, I Thess. 5:2, is the "same day (hour)" Christians meet the Lord in the air, I Thess. 4:17 "AND" the Wicked man of sin consumed, II Thess. 2:8-dragon/devil bound Rev 20:2 and his/the 2nd world kingdom (Rev.13:11) imposed the mark, kills saints, and received seven plagues "tribulation" Rev.15 is destroyed at Christ coming,
refutes pretrib.
JoBernard12oxen 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
That is the price of free will. There is only one thing God can't do and that's make us love him. If you had no free will you would still hate God because you would ask what kind of creator would make a being and force them to love him? 1930's Germany was the most educated society of the time, how did that work out? The most educated people in the world made the atom bomb too. The 2 biggest mass murderers in history, Mao and Stalin were atheists. You should work on that education a bit more....
ampinflames 1 year ago
Hitler was a professing Christian
and his government was as Christian as today's in the USA.
Bad example.
You also make uninformed and, hence, erroneous assumptions.
I don't hate fictional characters.
And you have very nimbly avoided every single failure
I listed about YHVH.
Most acrobatic of you.
Congratulations.
Education dissolves religion.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Love is God.
Get Some.
Peace.
ChatDEau69 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69:
You bore me.
ChatDEau69 1 year ago
Sometimes we encounter comments with which we disagree.
It has been my observation that most people respond in one of two ways.
If they CAN refute the offensive comment, they do.
If they can NOT refute the comment,
they leave an insult or a snide one-liner.
You appear to be perfectly average.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69:
What? You still here?
ChatDEau69 1 year ago
OMFG ahah LOL iam never gone believe that shit... U DUMB FUCKS!! PPL are the inventors or christianism..or how u call it...watch a movie..Mission with jeremy irons and de niro.yay i know its an historical event things like this hhave happened and behind this WAS GOD OMFG take of ur dark glasses morons...colonization of americas..the wanted with brute force killing stuffs for ppl from america to believe in OUR GOD!! they...nvm THINK MORONS there IS NO GOD not what bible says a man with beard haha
zawud 1 year ago
Way to call us dumb then butcher the English language. No one INVENTED Christianity. You think we should "watch a movie" to get information? Is that how YOU got your "information"? I can't even really decipher your comment but it made me mad because of the blatant ignorance of the faith of Christianity.
DiabolicalLefty 1 year ago
I guess theres no hope for those who get left behind?? I don't know what God they serve but the Lord I know wouldn't leave any of His children in the dark, not knowing what to do.. He's the shepard that would go back for that one lost sheep.. I don't believe in the rapture. We are in the Last Days, it will be the Last DAY!! You read that"Last DAY" not "DAYS".. I said DAY, is when hes going to make His return.
AdamPardo24 2 years ago
The people who get left behind can accept Christ even after the Christians are gone. There will still be Bibles and I'm sure there will be some people who knew of the rapture who will recognize when it happens.
DiabolicalLefty 1 year ago
6,000 years since the earth was created, eh?
and now god wants to destroy it, like a child busting up his toys?
LMAO i don't believe it.
Elvisdogg 2 years ago
I like it very much!
Well done!!
tiamarchos 2 years ago
That was a good one.COME LORD COME!
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I have always wanted to have a vision or dream about the rapture, well last night I didnt see the rapture happen but there was a Rapture count down calender thats the only way to describe it, And I looked at it saying WOW thats when the rapture will happen, when I woke up I new that I had seen how many days but all I could remember was it was less than 300 days
mrfellowship 1 year ago
If God was like what these people described i wouldn't believe in him either! God demonstrated his love towards us through Jesus it says while we were yet sinners Christ died the Godly for the unGodly, if you really want God on HIS terms he will reveal himself to you by his Holy Spirit,God looks on the heart not the outward appearence. ASK him to show you what is the TRUTH I'm very confident he is able and willing if a person is genuinely seeking him.I hope you don't mind if i will pray for you
kate151269 2 years ago
if the rapture really does ever happen, I dont see how the whole world WONT go christian. only the christians will be gone, and the rest of the world will say they were right all along, the first ever supernatual event witnessed by humanity, undeniable proof that the bible is right, the kinda evidence that agnostics like me need. I dont see hw anyone in their right mind wounldn turn to jesus because its obvious if they dont they will burn in hell, a gun pointed at your head is very convincing
TeamFortressKilla 2 years ago
i couldnt have put it better myself!
"a gun pointed at your head is very convincing" lol
thats so true.
matyus111 2 years ago
@Teamfortresskilla These clips (some good some bad ) are out there to inform for that purpose,however people believe what they want to regardless of evidence Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead after 3 days and many belived, others went to tell the jewish authority and they plotted not only how to put jesus to death but also to kill Lazarus aswell! Bible says Light has come into the world but people PREFER to remain in darkness,and people believe a LIE because they do not LOVE the TRUTH
God Bless
kate151269 2 years ago
When Jesus was here the Jewish priests crucified him KNOWING he was the messiah ONLY the Messiah could do his miricles. ie cleansing lepars, raising someone from the dead AFTER 3 days he waited until 3 days as the jews believed a person could be ressusatated up to that point,after this great miricle many believed but others went and told the priests who then plotted how to kill Lazarus aswell as jesus some people won't believe no matter what happens because they don't WANT God.
kate151269 2 years ago
Yea your right, I have heard many people who say that if they die there is a god, they will gladfully go to hell because they want nothing to do with a god who rules through fear, is a racist (only talks to jews, the "chosen ones") and a murderer (killed the first borns in egypt, and millions of others in the name of israel. and does not reaveal himself to tell us which religion is right thus allowing Billions to be led astray to hell. for me though, if theres a gun at my head, ill say anything
TeamFortressKilla 2 years ago
Wow!your so inteligent and convincing i must have got it wrong all these years,i guess after reading your wisdom i will have to renounce my faith and give it all up,please feel free to share more.
kate151269 2 years ago
thank you. im glad you can see the truth now!
i hope you can live your life in a good and right way now, without doing it because you think you will get punished and go to hell!
matyus111 2 years ago
hm its strange how some of my comments are removed. it must be god angry at me lololololol
matyus111 2 years ago
Proverbs ch14 v12 says ''There is a way that seems right unto a man,but the END thereof are the ways of death''
kate151269 2 years ago
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kate151269 2 years ago
Oh and why do think i would quote the Bible without having read it?
kate151269 2 years ago
if your god is so good and full of love then pls answer why the god in the old testement was an evil wicked vengefull god. but then changed into a nice god for the new testement.
very inconsistant?
matyus111 2 years ago
you are crazy! jesus was just a savior myth like hourus and mythrar and various others. if you believe in anything pls just check out the evidence first pls. you will realise a few things if you do i promise!
matyus111 2 years ago
@Matyus So how will you deal with your own personal sinfullness '''the WAGES of sin are Death'' but the''GIFTof God is eternal life through Jesus Christ''. We are all accountable to God for our Sin how do you propose to deal with yours without a saviour?
kate151269 2 years ago
i try not to do anything that i would call sinfull!
i dont need a threat of eternal hell to make me live my life in a good and right way. or the promise of a "heaven"
i am accountable to me for anything i do. not some made up fairy story like god/bible.
also if you read the bible. u will see that the god in the old testement was an evil wicked vengefull god. but then changed into a nice god for the new testement. READ IT YOURSELF! its aload of bull made up to keep people in line years ago!
matyus111 2 years ago
@ matyus ''I try not to do anything I would call sinful'' so are you saying your sinless without fault? or your just a little bit Sinful? are you claiming to be Good but the only measuring stick is what you Think?
kate151269 2 years ago
im saying that some people dont need to be scared into being good by religion. and the threat of eternal hell! i dont need that to live my life good and right. and noone is perfect, but i live my life right! you seem to be worried about your own "sins" but i dont need a fake belief to justify what i do. but you seem to.
and yes i am claiming to be good. or at least the best person i can be. im no slave to a fake god/belief.
matyus111 2 years ago
I'm no slave to a ''f'ake God'' either, because i KNOW he's real I submit willingly to the Lord Jesus Christ,you God haters are all the same drowning in your own arrogance it's not a problem if you don't believe though as it won't alter the fact that Christians stand before the judgement seat of Christ and unbelievers will stand before God at the Great white throne judgement , so go ahead and spew your bile it's still gonna happen.Oh and you still didn't answer my questions?
kate151269 2 years ago
1 im no god hater i just dont believe!
2 if there is a loving understanding forgiving god then im sure he would forgive me.
3 im not spewing bile im just stating my beliefs.
4 what questions did u ask? i will answer anything u ask me. if i can
5 i dont hate u for believing i just cant understand how you or anyone can believe what you do!
matyus111 2 years ago
1 why do you slander someone that doesn't exist.
2how can you be sure? when the wages of sin are death?
3 you don't seem to have any?
4 are you accountable for your sin if so to whom and how will you pay?
5 i never said you hated me?you will never understand these things because you DON'T want to come to the light of Gods Word.
kate151269 2 years ago
my beliefs as an athiest are just as strong if not more than your religious beliefs for "god"
how can i slander someone if they dont exist?
i am as sure as you.
we are all accountable to ourselfs for our own "sins"
matyus111 2 years ago
I have a subjective experience of Christ inside me through thePOWER of the Holyspirit (Born again) that proves to me what I'm sure of,What you got? 1corinth ch2 v14 ''But the natural man recieveth not the things of the spirit of God for they are foolishness to him because they are spiritually discerned'' I don't have a religious belief i have a relationship with God through grace, your beliefs, are they strong enough for you to die for? where does the concept of Sin come from?
kate151269 2 years ago
I believe in God but I would never Judge you for what you believe in, some people think their representing the Lord but just like Moses in the Desert when he hit the rock and accused the people, he couldnt enter in the promise land cause he misrepresented the Lord. Sometimes people step out of their authority and think they are right in wat they are saying.. I jus want to apologize on the churches behalf for judging you, God doesnt judge you, Hes loves you.. Sorry for their attacks, be Blessed!
AdamPardo24 2 years ago
thanks for the nice reply!
its the first one that my beliefs havent been attacked in. good luck to you too!
matyus111 2 years ago
@punkinthepark ''God is not STRICTLY wicked?'' so is he a bit wicked then? sounds like we got a schizophrenic on our hands! the scripture says ''I am the LORD who CHANGES NOT. I wouldn't stone you because I'm as guilty of sin as you are before God .Jesus said ''he that is without sin cast the 1st stone'' also if you want a definition of Morality jesus said ''Love thy neigbour as thyself''and read 1 corinthians chapter 13.
kate151269 2 years ago
@kate151269 - It's sickening that you find it humorous that the being you think runs it all has committed some of the most horrific acts. Clearly your judgment is a bit diluted. All you do is show exactly how hypocritical God is. I mention how he murders millions, then you mention some lame ass verse mentioning how he loves us. I mention how he DEMANDED people murder members of their own family, and you mention how he sent his only son to save us. You're delusional.
Punkinthepark1 2 years ago
I'm not laughing I'm mocking your logic that says Gods not ''Strictly Wicked'' if he murdered millions on a whim do you think you would still be alive? no but as the Bible says he is longsuffering towards us giving us time to repent as he is not willing any should perish but all should come to a knowledge of the truth. this is my last comment to you on this so you can post your final comment to me and offload all you would like to say and we will call it a day thanks.
May the Lord Bless you.
kate151269 2 years ago
@kate151269- I thought it was clear what I meant by "Not strictly wicked". Obviously I was pointing out that God has done some wonderful things, but those don't justify how terrible he can be. Just because someone "Loves" you and promises you great pleasures, doesn't mean they have the right to massacre millions and to demand Human beings take wicked actions. What does him murdering millions have anything to do with me being alive?? I'm not sure wheat ur trying to get at.
Punkinthepark1 2 years ago
(Cont) where as, if a species of animal discovers that by working together they can obtain food more efficiently, than it's very likely that an animal would treat those members better. Working together = more food = survival. From there, as our history shows us, we discover what makes people happy and sad. Religion has played a KEY ROLE in molding our current moral standards. If you took all your morals from the bible then why arn't you stoning me to death? Will you murder your kids for God?
Punkinthepark1 2 years ago
This is a nice MYTH. It would make a lovely New Age children's story book. Of course some creatures exist symbiotically, yet this is not a mind process. Creatures don't in nature CONCEPTUALIZE cooperation. They more often than not CONSUME one another. Sure they invite one another to a lovely communal dinner! The weakest one is served! Nature is not the ORGANIZING, LOVING, FRIENDLY thing you are DEIFYING. It is a DESTROYER. It will RAVAGE your aging body and make SURE you are EXPENDABLE.
jhall38 2 years ago
This fairy tale is one of the latest attempts of atheist biologists to explain the origins of moral behavior. They want to REDUCE all phenomena to the biologically explicable, pretending to solve the mind/body problem. Silly biologists! We can't explain everything! Many physicists looking for Unified Field Theory understand this. Explanations of EVERYTHING are essentially explanations of NOTHING. Logic can not explain itself. The derivation of things must be EXTERNAL to themselves.
jhall38 2 years ago
@jhall38 - Biologists attempts at explaining moral behavior have nothing to do with REDUCING all phenomena, that's ridiculous and you know it. Some people blow my mind sometimes. Dude, through EVIDENCE and observation this is clearly the most likely, and most evident way our morals evolved. It's fucking insane that people refuse to understand reality. You obviously refuse to think logically. As i've said...evidence. The world will be a better place when it comes to terms without fairy tales.
Punkinthepark1 2 years ago
The real issue in moral thought involves creatures doing things for other creatures that could bring DIRECT HARM to themselves, just for the other creature's benefit. Your explanation of self-serving moral behavior does not answer this question. Nice try.
jhall38 2 years ago
Why aren't you being stoned? Well, were the Mosaic laws in force, you might be, but there would be ways around that. I'm not sure why you think the law of Moses would have condemned you with stoning. Why? Under Jesus and the church, you would NOT be stoned. That's silly.
jhall38 2 years ago
If you would just give the morality you're proposing here some thought, you might find it as disgusting as I do. Do you think that it is a praiseworthy thing that I should be good to others only if doing so BENEFITS me? This is EVIL in the final analysis. Jesus said that if you love those that love you it is NOTHING. You must do good to those who ABUSE you. The moral bar you think you've described is just INSTINCTUAL behavior. It represents LOW LEVEL, amoral behavior.
jhall38 2 years ago
Your way of talking about the Bible lacks such accuracy as to be DISHONEST. If you have read ANYTHING AT ALL in the Bible. how can you come away with the thinking that STONING is a legal answer provided by the followers of Jesus? Morality in scripture is not MONOLITHIC. It is represented in various, CHANGING legal structures. The law of Moses is just one. Followers of Jesus don't follow Moses, not being covenanted under the law but under grace. Do you think Jesus would have stoned you?
jhall38 2 years ago
the world was not created 6thousand years ago where did they get that from... or was it? :S :S :S :S :S :S :S then all the dinosours and science carbon dating would be wrong?
madzane94 2 years ago
omg man never had to make 1:30 so dramatic with the flash, i had on head phones, it really scared the crap outa mi
madzane94 2 years ago
6 thousand yrs later? the eartyh wasn't created 6k years ago -_-
madzane94 2 years ago
Pick your myth, man. The truth is, there is NO OBSERVATIONAL SCIENCE regarding ultimate origins. There is also good philosophical evidence that our origins can not be explained materialistically. That is, it would be CIRCULAR REASONING to say that material things MADE the first MATERIAL THINGS. The truth must be that something BEYOND nature caused NATURAL things to begin existing. We have to work with ASSUMPTIONS. I choose to BELIEVE the Bible's narrative. It has more authority than I do.
jhall38 2 years ago
Ever increasing number generation is a trick. Materialists think that giving ever more billions of years to their findings will somehow overcome the problem of origins. Dating is sometimes manufactured. How old is this fossil? Well, it's a billion years old. How do we know? Well, because it was found in a layer we know is a billion years old. How do we know how old that layer is? Well, because of the age of fossils found there. So much so-called evolutionary biology is STORY-TELLING.
jhall38 2 years ago
Atheistic perpetual motion machines must be abandoned. Motion is not getting more energetic in the universe. Energy is being LOST. In the beginning was God. He created EVERYTHING that is. Since then, everything has been on a downward spiral, since that is its nature, to go down towards entropy, towards less complex ways of interaction. Our only hope out of this unwinding is to seek God. God did not create a perfect universe. That would have been impossible, since God could not make Himself.
jhall38 2 years ago
simple question then. who created god? where did god come from?
answer these simple questions and i will believe
matyus111 2 years ago
Consider the argument of the First Cause. It comes from one of the most basic relationships in science, CAUSALITY. Time and space are our ways of understanding events. Consider that any event Y to the nth has a cause Y to the nth - 1. This causation extends backwards indefinitely, yet not infinitely. Either postulate a beginning to the sequence of causes in time or postulate INFINITE REGRESSION, an absurdity. A universe without a beginning is an absurdity. God is the Necessary First Cause.
jhall38 2 years ago
Absolute relativism is an idea impossible to maintain. It is self-canceling. Absolutes may NEVER be dismissed, unless one is willing to give up THINKING itself. We have to have somewhere to start. This is at the level of our ASSUMPTIONS. A good place to begin is with the assumption that there is indeed a God. Otherwise, we simply can not explain how MATTER begins. It can not explain itself. That would be circular reasoning (begging the question). The best approach to this is to SEEK GOD.
jhall38 2 years ago
This video is spreading false doctrine. The bible never teaches a pre-trib rapture. Jesus, Paul, Daiel and John all taught post-trib rapture. So where does the church get the idea for a pre-trib rapture if the bible never directly teaches that, but DOES DIRECTLY TEACH post trib rapture?
RichPivo39 2 years ago
Can't see the forest for the trees?
jhall38 2 years ago
whats the name of that video clip
DERLENSz2k8 2 years ago
"Behold, that I'm coimng quickly" sounds like the warning from a premature ejaculator!
MasterZorro2008 2 years ago
how vulgar ur mind cannot understand the subject at hand.WHY r u viewing this video?
snooky1942 2 years ago
His coming soon...... Tell as many people you can about the GOSPEL.
Paramedic918 2 years ago
Beware your president's "ONE WORLD ORDER".
MegaSeraphim 2 years ago
i agree olivertwisted but when adam and eve took of the forbidden tree man and women were sent to the gallows. forgiveness then was through sacrifice for attone for thier sins. when jesus died and was risen forgivness was through faith through grace. after that man was not inteded for heaven but hell. it was then mans choice to recieve the gift of christ or denie it. which is why there will be many many many more in hell than heaven. keep with the faith though man. glad to see your comment.
worrior777 2 years ago
The Rapture is at hand!
tonydegn 2 years ago
The only real miracle is that people believe in miracles at all. -David Hume
AmongAliens 2 years ago
This is not surprising coming from an atheist. As with all other atheists, it takes a lot of arrogance to assume that material things like ourselves HAVE NO BEGINNING and so are ETERNAL. The fact that we don't get to BE God seems to escape atheists like Hume. Things that EXIST had to have a BEGINNING. Infinite regression is a logical ABSURDITY. There must have been a FIRST CAUSE which can not have the character of MATERIAL. In the end all the atheist has is circular reasoning.
jhall38 2 years ago
@jhall38 No one said anything about being eternal...I have no idea how you think I would ever state anything as eternal. You seem to be dreaming up distorted ideas so you can make some sort of point, thus leading to you being right. Well you're wrong, of course. To assume there is anything supernatural when not ever has there been a piece of evidence to support such a claim is not only sad, but a state of delusion as well.
Punkinthepark1 2 years ago
You seem to be missing the point. Nature can not explain the origin of nature. Something "trans nature" is needed to explain things. Otherwise, we're begging the question. Our conclusions are part of our assumptions.
jhall38 2 years ago
@jhall38, no I get your point, I'm not saying I know how the UNiverse started...NO ONE KNOWS....yet. One day if our species lives long enough we may discover it, or maybe not....either way it'll take evidence.
Punkinthepark1 2 years ago
You are still not giving your full attention. The IDEA of material things having ETERNAL existence is NOT scientific. Time IS limited, not eternal. Space is measured and so LIMITED, not ENDLESS and INFINITE. Infinity is a limit. No matter how many atoms there are, they are NUMBERED and so are NOT INFINITE. No matter how much time has passed since the initial CREATION event, the nanoseconds can be counted. Time is NOT and NEVER WILL BE INFINITE, no matter how much our science progresses.
jhall38 2 years ago
No amount of evidence will EVER turn finite space into INFINITE space. No collection of events or units of time will ever equal INFINITY. Time had a beginning. Also, space is bounded. No number of quantities will ever in sum be INFINITE. Working backwards from our time and position, it is easy to consider that there MUST HAVE BEEN a FIRST CAUSE. This first cause is by definition outside the web of causation. Future advances in science can only CONFIRM this, as long as there is time & space.
jhall38 2 years ago
The view that perhaps "one day if our species lives long enough we may discover it", regarding the question of origins, is a clever philosophic trick. It is used by atheists commonly. It is really just a scientific face of materialism, that all material things CAN be explained by other material things. It is the philosophical, materialist assumption that the only things that are REAL are touched, tasted, seen, smelled or heard. It is REDUCTIONIST since senses give only one type of knowledge.
jhall38 2 years ago
bollocks!
matyus111 2 years ago
The Bible is nothing more than a tool used for SOCIAL CONTROL -it's a Mystery GOD dogmatic practice -Free your mind and your ass will follow.
oneapmechanic 2 years ago
Time is at hand when son will be against father, nation will rise against nation, kingdom against kindom. There will be wars, and rumors of wars, and there will be pestillance, famine, earthquake. these things will come like a birth paings of a woman as she is about to conceive. But His coming will not come emedietly for all the things must come to past. These are the sign that He is right at the door. Don't be offended have a great day.
macdogq 2 years ago
Same to ya. You and your thoughts are your own instrument for your SOCIAL CONTROL. You can't HAVE YOUR CAKE and eat it too. Everyone must serve something. Bob Dillon. You're caught in your own web. The problem is that you don't have the discernment to choose which instrument of social control is best. Go get some of it. Read the Bible instead of taking the all too popular road of ignorantly trashing it. Be brave and go against your peers and be a Bible nut. Try it; you might like it.
jhall38 2 years ago
@jhall38...Ugh, I have read the Bible. I was a Christian like most poor unsuspecting children who were brought up in America and too young to possibly know what they want to believe about existence. Luckily for me I have great genes...My father was a closet Atheist and so was my gramps, though I never knew this till after I became an Atheist. So naturally I was bright, and always told myself "This doesn't seem right, in fact it feels incredibly sad if this is how it is". Go to a museum.
Punkinthepark1 2 years ago
While you may have read the Bible, something easily done in a few days' continuous reading, understanding its significance relative the many ideas/cultures represented in it is not so simple. Good understanding is the result of much work. It is an easy thing to trash by students who are either too lazy to actually explore its historic, cultural, linguistic roots or by those who just have an axe to grind. To the avid student, it can become a lifelong pursuit, an object of intense interest.
jhall38 2 years ago
"bible nut"=brainwashed moron!
matyus111 2 years ago
Why such anti-intellectualism? Do you realize that the ancient literature found in the Bible, of which there are 66 different books representing the cultures, writing styles, histories and concerns of many cultures, spans approximately four thousand years of early human history? Saying that a student of the Bible is a brainwashed moron sounds like brainwashing!. It is an uninformed bullying tactic, meant to demean, just "argumentum ad hominem". You should read it well. I doubt you have.
jhall38 2 years ago
mathew 5:10-12 Blessed are those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when man cast insults at you, and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely, on account of Me. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in Heaven is great, for so they persecuted the prophets before you.
worrior777 2 years ago
remember man was not supposed to go to heaven. Only through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ was it possible. We have to except his gift. It is a free gift. The gift of life. How i cannot wait to see my savior and worship him purely.
worrior777 2 years ago
For one it is not a free gift. You have to give up everything that is fun in life. Second I never asked to be born, so why would I be accountable. Third, the whole concept is stupid. God sent himself to earth as a man, to sacrifice himself, to himself, so that his laws ( that he created) could be changed. This was the only way go could save us from a hell he created. An all powerful god and this was the only way. It is laughable.
tyrone9009 2 years ago
Ityrone9009 It is because U have no understanding of scripture Ur idea of what is FUN IN LIFE is what? U have to know the whole story from its beginning,what happened and why He did not have to come and die and U find it laughable? U may stop laughing one day & it may be sooner than U think Find something better to do that you LIKE as clearly it is not here but U R here searching for TRUTH? It is a free gift,U confuse Ten Commandments with FUN you would miss?READ THEM=U miss which ones R fun?
snooky1942 2 years ago
chill out with the threats of hell. Funny you have to make someone believe in your stories by threatening them with eternal torture. I have studied the scripture, I was christian until about 9 months ago. You judge me before you know anything about me, Thats a really good christian value you have. Your just like all the rest of them. Hypocrite.
tyrone9009 2 years ago