What's the problem? Wings are allowed to flex a certain amount, and it was even more lenient under the 2008 regs. If the FIA - who were unbelievably bad in 2008 - wanted to get McLaren for it, they would've done.
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all teams had that not just mclaren. Honestly, can we all stop bitching about mclaren and saying they're the only ones bending the rules. everyone does it, not just mclaren.
This isn't a flexi wing you idiot, its called vibration. F1 cars dont ride any surface as smooth as silk, not even tarmc. Even on smooth circuits you get some vibration, and Melbourne isn't one at all.
@Nish2280 wow actually an enlightened one here. Here, we clearly see the first bending mode due to aeroelastic loading as well as mechanical vibration from the course surface. The divergence isn't significant enough to worry in regards of material failure, but of course there will be some deflection. Nevertheless, every material will have some speed at which this or flutter will occur
its not flexible,the car is moving at a high speed, its like a normal car, made out of fibre glass,even the cars u c on the road which have spoilers will be WOBBLY. when u reach a bump, due to the material,it looks like its soft but actually its quite hard, thats all physics
the angle of attack increases during braking >>> leading to increased downforce
then the angle of attack decreases in straight line (almost flat) in effect decreasing downforce and increasing straightline speed, even with similar downforce
@siskue2007 I understand what you mean with the braking and straight line speed. But the part of the wing you've shown us moving doesn't seem to affect that. It just seems like a plate designed for smooth flow over bodywork.
@siskue2007 this is when mclaren had adrian newey, this is when they were on par with ferarri as the best cars on the grid. red bull have had adrian newey since 2009 when the red bull was the fastest car on the grid and has been since...
@JUNIORROTAX55 Mclaren didnt have Newey in 08 at all ! Newey actually moved to RBR in 2006 but cause he didnt bring RBR to the front of the grid until 2009 that probably had something to do with your thoughts. Its when the regulations changed for 2009 that he got to weave his magic ! cause before that RBR were so far behind the already stable regulations it took 3 years to catch up & in 08 were it not for a 30 - 40 BHP power defecit I reckon the Silverstone front row would'nt of been a one off !
I think the wing is within tolerances, especially when you consider that you need to make these parts a bit flexible in order to keep them from breaking under high loading. McLaren did later add a small strut onto the front middle of that bridge wing to stop that vertical movement. I remember when they introduced that type of wing in Spain 2007, there was a bit of a stir.
you see the fia wants engineers to be creative and inovative with developing new technologies, thats why all the new regulations are in play for the 09 season. but then the engineers do think of something new and the FIA makes it illegal the next day! WTF is the point! they encourage it but then when it apears on the cars they make it illegal! makes no sense to me!
check out on youtube "uPPYhuWNi1c" That spacer on the nose of Renault F1 (same as on the McLaren) means nothing, wings are still felxible. FIA men are blinds or they are stupid idiots.
It's vibrating, not flexing. If you compare its position in the slow conrners to the postion at the end of the main strait, it doesnt change. Thus there isnt any aerodynamical advantage caused by this part.
Ok... Then Red Bull's "tail" is flexible too. And btw they had to connect the nose bridge to the nose. And if it shakes it's not flexible. So don't talk rubbish.
the regulations say that external parts of the front wing are allowed to flex to a certain amount of cm when under high air pressure, this front wing bridge is clearly an external piece therefore it can flex, if one watches the video the actual front wing structure does not flex/bounce etc which it isnt allowed to do therefore mclaren havent made a front wing that does so, now can we stop moaning please?
@siskue2007 Its allowed to move to a certain point but it also has to withstand a certain amount of weight and pressure from the f.i.a and under braking. if there was a problem it would have been dealt with.
Do not look at the bridge, look at the main wing itselfs @ the bridgestone sticker. That is flex, but it is all within the limits so this is another useless discussion...
It's just vibrating and just bending a bit from high forces of airflow
w00xer 4 months ago
mclaren bastardo ferrari is the father
89kyn98 8 months ago
What's the problem? Wings are allowed to flex a certain amount, and it was even more lenient under the 2008 regs. If the FIA - who were unbelievably bad in 2008 - wanted to get McLaren for it, they would've done.
RoLLWithITOasis1 9 months ago
I think thats not really a flexible wing. Cause only the extra part on the wings is vibrating...(useles part on top of the wing)
mitcmaik 9 months ago
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stealthysmirth 10 months ago
It is not against the rules for the wing to flex. it is against the rules if it doesnt reach a certain height off the floor, *cough cough* redbull
stigg46 10 months ago
I think people are confusing flexing with vibrating
XR8xSHOCKWAVE 10 months ago 3
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hirbonen 10 months ago
fucking cheating wankers
soundman1100 10 months ago
So cool. After playing loads of F1 2010 (despite bugs, good game)
I can recognise all the tracks in about a second now : D
Who says games are bad for you?
gnark1ll1us 1 year ago 5
@gnark1ll1us Play Rfactor... Its only good for you :D
mitcmaik 9 months ago
every team had that bridge
keytek9 1 year ago
Wtf, Flexy Wings? Why didnt they just call them "Bendy wings". What a dumb name
carveriscool 1 year ago
all teams had that not just mclaren. Honestly, can we all stop bitching about mclaren and saying they're the only ones bending the rules. everyone does it, not just mclaren.
droidbait 1 year ago
you should see red bulls rb5
QOTSAPT 1 year ago
@craigsimons1993 Just dont worry about people like that. They dont know anything about f1
Alan471 2 years ago
This isn't a flexi wing you idiot, its called vibration. F1 cars dont ride any surface as smooth as silk, not even tarmc. Even on smooth circuits you get some vibration, and Melbourne isn't one at all.
craigsimons1993 2 years ago
Its called aero-lastic
Nish2280 2 years ago
@Nish2280 flix wings is more like it
keytek9 2 years ago
@Nish2280 wow actually an enlightened one here. Here, we clearly see the first bending mode due to aeroelastic loading as well as mechanical vibration from the course surface. The divergence isn't significant enough to worry in regards of material failure, but of course there will be some deflection. Nevertheless, every material will have some speed at which this or flutter will occur
Shadowboost 1 year ago
take an A-Level in Physics fool
beyblader10171 2 years ago 2
it wasnt a flexi wings.its jst moving because of the wind
141471 2 years ago
odprick t800= immature cock-sucker!
tafftich 2 years ago
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tafftich 2 years ago
mclaren=beautifull!!!
tafftich 2 years ago
you = stupid
OdrikT800 2 years ago 3
Flexy front wings have been partly allowed in 2009.
loetkoe27 2 years ago 3
its not flexible,the car is moving at a high speed, its like a normal car, made out of fibre glass,even the cars u c on the road which have spoilers will be WOBBLY. when u reach a bump, due to the material,it looks like its soft but actually its quite hard, thats all physics
RCAddicts 2 years ago 2
but this car is made of carbon fiber and it mustn't move as f1 regulations say
DunkleVollNuss 2 years ago
how is that gonna help with the downforce
keytek9 2 years ago
i was asking me the same question
OdrikT800 2 years ago
the wing should not move
keytek9 2 years ago
the angle of attack increases during braking >>> leading to increased downforce
then the angle of attack decreases in straight line (almost flat) in effect decreasing downforce and increasing straightline speed, even with similar downforce
siskue2007 2 years ago 32
@siskue2007
not really..just to increase the flow to the rear wing (+while following other cars which produces turbulences)
flexible rear and front wings can produce by their own more grip and straightline speed
AndZzo101 1 year ago
@siskue2007
not really, they're "just" increasing the airflow to the rear wear, to reduce turbulence of other cars.. which can produce more downforce
AndZzo101 1 year ago
@siskue2007 I understand what you mean with the braking and straight line speed. But the part of the wing you've shown us moving doesn't seem to affect that. It just seems like a plate designed for smooth flow over bodywork.
nickJod1234 11 months ago
@siskue2007 this is when mclaren had adrian newey, this is when they were on par with ferarri as the best cars on the grid. red bull have had adrian newey since 2009 when the red bull was the fastest car on the grid and has been since...
JUNIORROTAX55 9 months ago
@JUNIORROTAX55 Mclaren didnt have Newey in 08 at all ! Newey actually moved to RBR in 2006 but cause he didnt bring RBR to the front of the grid until 2009 that probably had something to do with your thoughts. Its when the regulations changed for 2009 that he got to weave his magic ! cause before that RBR were so far behind the already stable regulations it took 3 years to catch up & in 08 were it not for a 30 - 40 BHP power defecit I reckon the Silverstone front row would'nt of been a one off !
LedFanZeppelin 8 months ago
More down force in slower corners, less on a straight.
justjesper 2 years ago
I think the wing is within tolerances, especially when you consider that you need to make these parts a bit flexible in order to keep them from breaking under high loading. McLaren did later add a small strut onto the front middle of that bridge wing to stop that vertical movement. I remember when they introduced that type of wing in Spain 2007, there was a bit of a stir.
Ferrariman601 2 years ago 2
you see the fia wants engineers to be creative and inovative with developing new technologies, thats why all the new regulations are in play for the 09 season. but then the engineers do think of something new and the FIA makes it illegal the next day! WTF is the point! they encourage it but then when it apears on the cars they make it illegal! makes no sense to me!
hell5torm 2 years ago 3
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FIA thought that to remover mclaren of F1 because hamilton lied at australia 2009: it would be great
udumaeG 2 years ago
Yeah - losing one of the top teams would do wonders for the sport... idiot
BlindingAddiction 2 years ago 4
I think its really cool technology, FIA should legalize it and let teams develop it.
callum122 2 years ago 4
ileeeeeeeegal !!!!!!!!!!!!!
xpackxpack 2 years ago
If you skip from 0 secs to 10 secs and back again you will see the difference.
vertigo8 3 years ago 2
That is McCheat!
rhadamg 3 years ago
My girlfriend loves flexy wings
Welloiledcog 3 years ago 27
Kinky
TheYoghurtTop 3 years ago 4
check out on youtube "uPPYhuWNi1c" That spacer on the nose of Renault F1 (same as on the McLaren) means nothing, wings are still felxible. FIA men are blinds or they are stupid idiots.
mesa155 3 years ago
It's imposible to make it stick . Even a airplanes wing vibrates like that. Moving parts mean to modifiy it's angle or/and it's distance !
tracto91 3 years ago 3
At breaking around :22 you can see that it moves up creating more downforce for the curve while it was lower for the straight.
Zcarbon 3 years ago
Its flexing McLaren had to put an upright suport to the top wing to prevent it from doing this.
streamleazefishhouse 3 years ago 4
It´s flexing!!! If you don´t see it you are blind. Just because it´s vibrating, doesn´t say that it isn´t flexing...
it probably moves by 3/4 of an inch...
fillefilander 3 years ago 2
Your culture is far behind homo sapiens ... :P
mesa155 3 years ago 3
It's vibrating, not flexing. If you compare its position in the slow conrners to the postion at the end of the main strait, it doesnt change. Thus there isnt any aerodynamical advantage caused by this part.
zwamman 3 years ago
Put a color point with a pen onto your monitor at half of this video at left. And check that the front wing is flexible! :D
mesa155 3 years ago 2
Ok... Then Red Bull's "tail" is flexible too. And btw they had to connect the nose bridge to the nose. And if it shakes it's not flexible. So don't talk rubbish.
ramzesthesecond1 3 years ago
the regulations say that external parts of the front wing are allowed to flex to a certain amount of cm when under high air pressure, this front wing bridge is clearly an external piece therefore it can flex, if one watches the video the actual front wing structure does not flex/bounce etc which it isnt allowed to do therefore mclaren havent made a front wing that does so, now can we stop moaning please?
F1Guru1992 3 years ago 10
just place ur mouse pointer over the Bridgestone logo on its lower element and watch is FLEX ASWELL!!!!!!!!
siskue2007 3 years ago 2
@siskue2007 thats not flex thats merely the vibration from driving
reaversword 1 year ago
@siskue2007 Its allowed to move to a certain point but it also has to withstand a certain amount of weight and pressure from the f.i.a and under braking. if there was a problem it would have been dealt with.
jraybay 1 year ago
@siskue2007 uhh vibrations form the road?
PJ2436 1 year ago
@siskue2007 ever seen a total stiff wing at high speed?
traumsphaere 11 months ago
i love how people go all weepy over mclaren but nobody gives a shit about the renault from the same race with similar flex levels!
tahadar 3 years ago
are u blind?...that wing flex a lox.
vitto 3 years ago 2
Do not look at the bridge, look at the main wing itselfs @ the bridgestone sticker. That is flex, but it is all within the limits so this is another useless discussion...
Vriezzer 4 years ago
Cheathers
vitto 3 years ago
The Ferrari fans are reaching with this one. It ain't even close to the amount of flex the Ferrari has..
I looks more like bouncing when going over uneven track.. IMO.
prabha71 4 years ago
This isn't flexing, it's just a bit of bouncing!
ianghowlett 4 years ago
a lot of flex...blind
vitto 3 years ago