Joan Sutherland "Alfredo di questo core" La Traviata

[Ariadne7710]

This is the worst Traviata I have ever heard in my life (and I have heard dozens and dozens). They are all past their sell by date and half asleep. And the orchestra is sounds in a trance too. The poor Japanese audience they had to pay for this!!!!

[francescoeelisa]

RIP JOAN :(

[mariloly38]

BRAVA

[lips555so]

Bellissima redemtion. La amo.

[galago38]

Too much vibrato in her voice. How can you compare her with the exhillaration of Anna Netrebko or even Renee Fleming. She belongs to old opera.

[Drelnis]

@galago38 I don't know how much Netrebko herself can say about this level of coloratura singing, but Fleming has expressed deep admiration for Sutherland.

I suggest you take a look at my video channel and other videos to see the truth in her sublime coloratura singing, comparing her to Netrebko is just absurd, Netrebko isn't even a true coloratura soprano.

[galago38]

Sutherland had a most disconcerting vibrato in her voice once she hit middle age. As for her appearence, I don't think she was ever the femme fatal demanded by so many roles. Netrebko is awsome and she is just beginning her career. Do you think Domingo or Villazon would perform with her if she was not first rate?

[Drelnis]

@galago38 I'll only give full respect of Netrebko when she sings Donizetti's queens, I believe, more than Lucia or Elvira, Maria Stuarda and Elisabetta are definitive of the Bel Canto repertoire, sure, Norma, Lucia are so much more famous, and even vocally demanding with their lengthy scenes, but Netrebko would never be singing Quel Sangue or Ah! Se Un Giorno. Compare her work with Sutherland's, where is the flare? Can Netrebko sing Turandot, Amina, Bolena, or the great Esclarmonde, or Lucrezia?

[Drelnis]

@galago38 seems you are not aware of Villazon's current standing in the operatic stage, he is almost the laughing stock, it is not "Villazon agree to perform with her", why, Netrebko is even more first rate than Villazon, after what he's been through on Popstar, Operastar. If Sutherland belongs to old opera then you wouldn't know the beauty of Caballe, Sills, Callas, Tebaldi or Scotto? Now are they to be locked away as well? Are you familiar with Gruberova, Devia? Today's divas, real bel canto.

[galago38]

Drelnis, fact is Netrebko is sought after by all major opera houses on both sides of the Atlantic. You can't say this about Gruberova. As for Villazon, give him time to recover from throat surgery. Fact is, both he and Domingo chose Netrebko for their megaconcert in Berlin a few years ago. Sutherland's vibrato became embarrassing in the second half of her career. Her looks were not in her favor either.

[MadonnaImperia]

@galago38 Netrebko has been singing since the mid-90's so she's hardly beginning her career which only makes it even more embarassing for her that she is so technically inadequate that she can't be counted on to perform even the simplest fioritue correctly and yet sings roles that demands quite a lot technically. She may be slim and beautiful, but she's not a great SINGER. So when she chooses to sing roles that is above her level, she aims to satisfy her own wims, not to serve the composer.

[monnfair]

@MadonnaImperia You can't be serious. Do you think the Metropolitan Opera, Royal Opera House Covent Garden and the Staatsoper, Vienna would engage Netrebko season after season in leading roles if she was not one of the very top singers today? As for Sutherland, bless her soul, her excessive vibrato is an indication that she is was well past her prime when this was taped. I won't comment on her appearence apart from saying they are not exactly ideal for the role of violetta.

[MadonnaImperia]

@monnfair Of course I'm serious. I'm well aware that she is a top singer in commercial terms and that is of course why she is hired at the top opera houses. But that isn't the same as being a top singer in purely musical terms. This page is full of examples of how the demands of a lot of the music she sings are too high for her limited technique. Another example: On the cd "Juan Diego Flórez Bel Canto Spectacular" she sings the duet from "I puritani" with Flórez....

[MadonnaImperia]

@monnfair ...It only contains a single coloratura passage and a rather simple on at that, but she doesn'tmanage to sing it without mistake - in a studio recording! I think that is a very clear indication of what I mean when I say that in purely musical terms, she is not a top singer, no matter how popular and sought-after she may be commercially or how compelling her stage presence might be.

[llamasaresmelly]

@MadonnaImperia It wasn't a studio recording. If you are talking about the one w/ Villazon, that was taken from live performances. Honestly, if you saw the position Netrebko had to sing it in, you'd be amazed at the sound she was able to produce.

I think both are great. I like Netrebko more because of her characterization, but I can totally appreciate your views on Sutherland.

Also, have you seen Treb's Mimi or her Manon? They are pretty incredible, and I think she honors the composers there.

[Homoclassicus]

@galago38 That's funny, because both Netrebko and Fleming have stated absolute admiration for Sutherland's voice and singing. Netrebko even said she heard, at a store, a recording of "Casta diva" and thought immediately that was perfection only to notice afterwards that was Sutherland singing. There's no old opera: there's good singing and bad singing, and that's it. Of course, tastes do change, but if you think there's much vibrato in her voice here you probably wanna hear Kirkby singing Verdi.

[jmahlon]

blech to all his spread vowels, almost forced me to turn off the clip..

[lips555so]

Grazie Verdi.

[actor001]

Her voice is a miracle of nature , She will always be my favorite coloratura soprano

[ilzeroze1]

@actor001 My also for ever.

[Lindow]

Joan looks like the queen of the night rather than Violetta...

[zurriussII]

@Lindow yeah but it's not her fault

[petitspirouet]

je regrette, mais aller a l'opera pour voir ça, je reste chez moi et j'ecoute un dvd ou un cd.

[awixa2]

Sutherland looks anything but consumptive