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  • You eat pigs, in South Korea they eat dogs; the Jains of India are born, live and die without ever having eaten meat.

    Your dog in nature would not have chosen to eat cooked meat, he would much rather have taken the boar down himself and eaten it raw.

    Can you connect all the dots or will I have to right a dissertation?

  • Your video proves nothing, are you trying to make fun out of the aphorism by Harvey Diamond? You put a baby in a crib with an apple and a rabbit. If it eats the rabbit and plays with the apple, I'll buy you a new car

    If thats what youre trying to do then your video is without logic; it doesnt make any point other than dogs are carnivores and not fruitarians

  • I'm not trying to be a smart arse; I am just trying to make sense of this video. And I'm sure when you said," there you go, you can't process thought, you're a dog" Im sure I saw your dog wanting to say,"hey biach, I'm just not fucking hungry at the moment!" :-)

    There's a business for yah, animal psychic, and now vegans and veggies aside, they are not the real nut cases, it is animal psychics/communicators.

  • you have missed the point of the video.

  • Yeah, i know... my bad

  • its all good babe.

    the only thing i was getting at was the very last part. eat and let eat!

  • lol my dog will eat an apple only if its cut up very small lol other than that yuppp they love their meat

  • same. he will never eat a whole veggie/fruit. only if i cut it up.

    its kind of like how a baby will not eat a whole bunny. they will only eat a cut up bunny.

    that is towards an argument given to me by a PETA crackpot. it is not aimed at you at all my dear.

  • i like my road kill cajun style

  • Luna is a dog. Dogs are scavengers. So of course he would go for the road kill.

  • that is not roadkill- that is the bone from the delicious pork roast.

    dog are omnivores like poeple- we are also scavengers- hence we are adaptable and opportunistic eaters.

  • Eww you are a scavenger.

  • yo mama!

  • I wanted to add to your already existing warning that one of my Goldens had an eposide with blood in his stool. I'm still not sure what caused it. After I calmed down from all the blood in the snow and read up on it, I feel it was some kind of tear due to either a piece of a bone or something he had gotten into in the yard. The blood tapered within a day, thankfully but the vet recommended I fast him for 24hrs, whether that helped or not I'll never know. Just wanted to share that!

  • oh thank you- definitely- chicken bones, pieces of wood, sometimes even rocks are ingested by dogs who, quite frankly, cannot help themselves!

    when giving dogs bones for treats they need to be watched at all times. also you cannot let a dog eat that much bone at once otherwise their poop will be calcified, dry, and painful to expell.

    bones are just as a treat.

  • Yes, of course. They need to be surpervised at all times but just like kids (although I don't have any) sometimes you need eyes in the back of your head!

  • i thought this video was about fiona apple

  • again- this is complete nonsense you are telling me- an omnovire eats both plant and animal matter- they have generalized digestive systems that are nonspecific so that they are able to break down both protien and fiber. humans eveolved eating meat, we will always continue to eat meat, and the vast majority of the world laughs at you and the others who do not partake in the meat deliciousness.

    eating meat is not an addiction- you are brainwashed and a complete fool. you need therapy- get help.

  • Personal Values Deceive Taste Buds ScienceDaily(July 18, 2008)— Many heavy meat eaters believe they eat a lot of meat because of the taste. But according to groundbreaking new research the reason that a beef burger tastes better than a veggie burger to some people has more to do with values than actual taste" Original study available online, explains common traits of culturally conditioned meat feeders- special desire for social power/domination/inequality/ac­ceptance/self-concept, etc.

  • blahblahblah- you believe this yet you dont believe that humans are omnivores-

    this is not goundbreaking -its just foolish.

    the reason a meat burger tastes better than a veggie burger is because IT IS BETTER.

    every single non meat eater i know has said they have to TRAIN themselves NOT to eat meat... meaning it is not natural.

    please. you believe that nonsense but you dont think humans, apes, chickens, dogs, etc are omnivores.

    you embarrass yourself here sir.

  • cowgodess "you dont believe that humans are omnivores"

    Dietary classification is not a 'belief" system, nor is it a vote. And no working definition for 'omnivore' has been provided.

    "every single non meat eater i know has said they have to TRAIN themselves NOT to eat meat" Once addicted to animal fat 'training' involves intermediate foods such as soy/nuts/beans/avocado/coconut­s, etc until 'cravings' subside. After about 22 months on a natural diet the risk of relapse is diminished greatly.

  • Take a child an put it in front of an apple and a living rabbit. If it bites into the rabbit, you convinced me that humans are carnivores.

  • i babysit my friends kids all the time- seth has tried to eat my bunny and i had to scream at him to stop him- he literally tried to take off my sweet bunniculas ear with his teeth.

    now, while i COULD have taken a video, the welbeing of my bunny was higher up on my priority list.

    personally, i will NOT eat bunny. i only eat adult cows, chickens, and piggies. i no hesitation in slaughtering and preparing the beast for food. i am not afraid of where food comes from. dont like meat? dont eat it.

  • people that say this clearly dont have kids. What a child tries to eat doesnt prove anything about what is good for it to eat.

    want proof. warning labels.

    choking hazards,poison warning. keep out of reach of -children- now why do you suppose they have them?

  • ever read those articles about the parents trying to feed their children vegan diets?

    and what happens to those children?

    THEY DIE.

    little kids definitely are not the smartest creatures... they are young and sitll need learning.

    precious lil hoodlums.

  • That had nothing to do with veganism & everything to do with feeding a child only apple juice & soymilk!

    If parents feed a child ONLY bacon & fries & the child dies would you blame that on an omni diet or simply a poor diet? I can be vegan & only eat fries & drink soda but I wouldn't be very healthy....is that because of being vegan or just not eating a nutritious diet?

    I have a baby growing in me right now. He/she will be raised vegan & get plenty of nutrition. My obstetritian supports this.

  • i would not feed my child either of those diets.

    also, there is no such thing as soy milk because there is no soy nipple!

    and yes, that is correct- this video has NOTHING to do with veganism, but is also has NOTHING To do with feeding a child only apply/soy juice.

    it is aimed at the PETA peoples. it was one of a couple ongoing arguments given, so i made a video about it.

  • Are you saying Vegans don't breast feed their children? That's fucking ridiculous! But I'm still not following the logic of this video, can you point me to the PETA thing that sparked the idea of your vid?

  • if you cannot follow the logic that you have missed the point. its simple. if you are confused im a little concerned.

  • "I have a baby growing in me right now. He/she will be raised vegan & get plenty of nutrition. My obstetritian supports this"

    Hey Veganbutterfly, the Jains of India have been doing the same thing for centuries and it hasn't hurt them any. Good onyah mate!

  • the notion that tool use is somehow "unnatural" is a ridiculous vegan tactic. animals invent tools through their intelligence. is intelligence unnatural?

  • did you notice that kinda big word there? the one starting with "S"?

    that word is SIMILAR meaning, it is kinda like something but isnt actualy the same.

    AND monkies, apes, chimps are all making ant catching devices from sticks- stop splitting hairs here- you are wrong, they, as well as humans, are OMNIVORES. admit you are wrong and embrace truth.

    hippie.

  • That's sad, even the dog knows what is dog food but some of the people seem confused.

    Humans are frugivorous apes so why would anyone think humans and dogs eat the same thing? Dogs are carnivores so of course they don't favor the apple...

    What is the point of this video?

  • hey- sorry to be a buzz kill but you do know that humans and dogs are OMNIVORES right? no seriously! and no, this isnt new news at all! this has been known for quite awhile now... yeah.

    the point is for you to come by to say something stupid like "humans are not omnivores".

    so do you believe the moon is made of cheese? and that we never landed there, or that the holocaust never happened? and that there is a santa clause and tooth fairy? humans AND dogs are OMNIVORES- this is fact not opinion.

  • Not sure why u are daydreaming of cheese on the moon...

    Please provide a WORKING definition of 'omnivore' Please list some biochemical/physiological traits that would apply to humans if such a dietary classification were true or reflected any hominoidea.

    If u give me the tired response: 'eats both animals and plants' I'll then say 'so do cows/rabbits/crocodiles, etc.'

    I'm talking biological classification (ie list criteria). NOT behavior.

    Hint: human digestive system is NOT like dogs

  • ever hear the whole cow has 4 stomaches? they have that so as to break down the plants- humans do not have this- we have a GENERALIZED and NONSPECIFIC digestive system which is DESIGNED through EVOLUTION to make us able to eat BOTH meat and veggie.s

    we are comnivores- i have given many articles which you obviously have not read. you are wrong, the end. you can keep saying we are frugivores but you would still be wrong. we are omnivores- this is a F A C T.

  • The fact he wont go straight to an all fruit diet shows that we arent "frugivores" lol

  • "Dogs are carnivores so of course they don't favor the apple..." Wow...weren't you saying on the vegan video that dogs ARE omnivores? and now they are only carnivores..MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!

    The reason I know dogs are omnivores is because I actually give my dogs fruits and veggies every now and then and one of my dogs sees that I have an apple, she jumps around and acts like she wants it just like how she would want a piece of meat.

  • also, if you feed a dog nothing but meat it will die! dont forget about that.

  • If humans are "frugivorous" apes, why dont you eat a full fruit only diet and not just 80%? If humans were naturally "frugivores", shouldn't you be able to go on an all fruit diet all at once instead of a little bit everyday?

  • also: apes dont eat just fruit as he claims- they also eat smaller animals and insects!! this means they are OMNIVORES.

  • dont get crisism started on that topic haha

  • exactly.

    someone on another video had a quote from chrisisms saying gorillas are "frugivores" and then a quote from National Geographic saying gorillas are omnivores.

    apparently chrisisms thinks he's smarter than the people at national geographic lol

  • I never said apes 'eat just fruit'. You said that above. Those are YOUR words. u insist on purposely misquoting me. Why? All u have to do is copy and paste. Has it ever occurred to u that when you repeatedly have to lie about what others said that u might not be correct about an issue?? False. Cows also consume insects. This does not make them omnivores. u still have refused to provide a working definition for the term 'omnivore' but you'll keep using it because you are conditioned to believe it

  • cows consume insects? when was the last time u saw a cow making a tool to gather insects to eat? get real.

  • Tools are a function of culture. Thank you.

  • yes and culture is a servant to needs including nutrional.

  • tools are not in opposition to nature they spring from nature. tools are natural.

  • bigusdikus0 "tools are not in opposition to nature they spring from nature."

    Tools... spring.. from... nature...

    Beautiful... Your microwave oven and antacids grow on trees now...

  • hey smarty pants- hate to be the buzz kill again, but like, when apes use sticks to get ants from ant kills that is a TOOL literally SPRUNG from NATURE.

    epic fail.

  • ovens come from the invention of humans which come from nature.

  • the human mind is just as "natural" as a tree brainless

  • the point is that cows eat insects accidentally and chimps eat them purposefully indication nutritional need. the fact that they use tools does not negate this assumption it supports it. why would they go to all the trouble to make a tool to obtain insects? as a cultural ritual? like a tea party. get real.

  • "cows eat insects accidentally and chimps eat them purposefully indication nutritional need."

    Culture may be purposeful but certainly NOT necessarily "nutritional". So if u are eliminating unintentional bug consumption u can go back and change the fraction of avg meat consumed by chimps. You're really on top of things being able to read the intentions of the chimps by the way...

    Intentional or not, meat is NOT digested properly by any hominoidea.

  • apes use sticks as tools to get bugs- monkies do NOT have culture.

    and you have failed to prove to me that you are not a complete fool who is brainwashed and misguided by PETA. i am conditioned to answer my phone when i hear it ring- im inclined to find something true when it IS. you are wrong, humans are OMNIVORES- grow up, admit you are wrong, and embrace.

    you hippie.

  • Nobody said monkies have culture. Apes are NOT monkies. The topic is all hominoidea have culture and tool use IS culture. There is an entire emerging field on chimp culture. u just don't have a clue.. But -

    Chimpanzees may build their 'cultures' in a similar way to humans

    11-01-2008 - ScienceDaily

    ScienceDaily (Jan. 10, 2008) Socially-learned cultural behaviour thought to be unique to humans is also found among chimpanzees colonies, scientists at the University of Liverpool have found.

  • how are u defining natural? are u saying all tool use is unnatural?

  • ur really stupid crisism. all behavior is cultural. lions teach their young to kill. everything has to be learned. that doesnt mean its "unnatural"

  • bigusdikus0 "all behavior is cultural"

    FALSE. Lions are NOT culturable. Lions REQUIRE animal fat/cholesterol. HUMANS DO NOT.

  • what? that makes no sense. all animals are socialized. what does nutrititional requirements have to do with that?

    FALSE.

  • lions are not culturable? haha what a total fool ur crisism. ALL animals are taught by their parents

  • liarism

    how do u think cultural behavior arises fool? it arises out of necessity. not just out of thin air. get a clue

  • bigusdikus0 "how do u think cultural behavior arises fool?"

    I appreciate how faithful u are to your religion/customs but culture is NOT genetic instruction. Custom reflects your desire to obtain social acceptance- good luck..

    "it arises out of" your wish to become popular.

  • "Custom reflects your desire to obtain social acceptance- good luck.."

    completely wrong. culture comes from nature. too bad u cant separate culture from nature. culture is natural.

  • ""it arises out of" your wish to become popular." projecting again? ur the one with the desire to be accepted and popular thats why u became vegan.

  • If you type the following into a browser you should get the latest study on the sociological influences of eating meat:

    "Journal of Consumer Research, August 2008, Vol 35, p294-308 The Interactive Effect of Cultural Symbols and Human Values on Taste Evaluation"

  • i like vegans and vegetarians and meat eaters all the same- just dont tell me i am evil or wrong for eating what i eat. i dont tell them they are wrong so i dont want to hear it from them.

    i am just anti peta.

    screw peta.

  • even luna is smarter than vegans haha

  • apples are murder!

  • mmmmm that pork roast looked tasty :)

  • can i have that delicious pork roast? much more tasty than an apple haha

  • both are tastey- pork is delicious when cooked with apples too!!

  • I was just thinking that! lol

    and then sprinkle some honey and cinnomon on the apples...delicious :)

  • seriously- braise the apple, cut in half, with a cinnimon stick, bay and sage leaves, and all spice berries in a cup of broth or water. then drain and put in the baking dish with the pork. mmmm yeah.

  • hey u guys makin me hungry!

  • ooooh and it was. i just poke holes and put garlic cloves in it. i liberally sprinkle salt and pepper then sear that bitch... then bake in oven.

    mmmhmmm.

  • yayyyyyyyyyy the greatest vid ever!!!!!!!!!!!

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