hey exanchorite, good work but little confusing, some gravity dredges trap pay dirt in there ribbing along the 100 ft or so of pipe, but clean up is a problem, with your suction nossel do you need another short section of pipe to a sluice box close to where you are working?, post another effort all connected up, im sure youve developed a far better gravity dredge not obvious to us less imaginative persons, the gravity dredge is all about getting out into nature and enjoying the piece and quite.
Yes another section of hose attached to a sluice box. You can start at the top with a larger diameter hose and get more suction or just get more hose and a taller drop. I gave my hose away when I moved to AK. Most likely won't be testing this idea further since I'm making an ice diving dredge right now.
@exanchorite i know im a bit thick but if the hose to the sluice is separate to the long hose providing the fall and suction, how does the short hose suck up the gravels, vortex?, cheers david
They call it a Venturi effect. The whole concept of a gravity dredge came to me from the old timers hydraulicing. Google hydraulicing. The basic idea is to take a large volume of water in conjunction with gravity and reduce the size of the pipe the water travels in as you get lower in elevation. Gravity creates a certain amount of pressure as the weight of the water in the pipe above has nowhere to go but down. The reduction in pipe size from large to small creates a "venturi effect".
Google venturi effect. When you reduce the size of the pipe the pressure does not increase or stay the same, the pressure decreases, but the velocity (speed) of the water increases. The speed of the water is what creates the suction. In my case I used just one size hose to see what gravity could do on its own. I reduced it down from 2" to 1" with a suction nozzle. I got mediocre results.
If I had the same amount of fall and hose length, but I started with a 4" pipe and reduced down to a 2" pipe and then down to my 1" suction nozzle the velocity of the water would be even faster and the suction would be even greater. Because of the venturi effect 4” of water reduced to 2” equals increased velocity and 2" down to 1" increases velocity again which will increase suction on a jet log or suction nozzle.
i wonder if working at a waterfall would be better =D I'll have to make a vid i guess, i see this fuckin hose all the time and im always wondering what i could use it for, now i gotta go find some again!
I have a tool that creates very high vacuum underwater, much higher than any small dredge now being used to look for Placer Gold, I am looking to talk to someone with experience in this area. You can see the tool if you do a search for "Barton abrasive removal tool" where you will see it being used to vacuum fine solids (garnet and expended media) from water filled tanks. email if interested placergolddredge@yahoo.com
why don't you just get a highbanker with a recirculating water pump that runs off a car battery? that way you could run your concentrates through the highbanker and do your cleanup in a gold pan later.
Good Idea. The purpose of a gravity dredge is to be able to dredge in remote places with no electricity or gasoline required. I wonder how long a battery would power a 2" pump before needing to be recharged on a highbanker. All the hose I brought in weighs about 60lb which is what one car battery would weigh. The cool thing about a gravity dredge is if it works on a small scale you can scale it up as long as you have enough water for your 6" or 8" dredge.
amazes me how much time people waste in this "hobby" I want to see some cost.benefit analysis to this lunacy or some bank statements before I go swamping with the copperheads
It's more than just prospecting. It's getting out into nature and enjoying yourself. I'm not selling anything here, just informing other prospectors of what is possible. I never got into this hobby with dreams of getting rich, but I have been very fortunate and if you keep watching my videos I will show you what is possible for a full time miner.
think about golf. you go out and spend money and have fun. now think about gold. you go out and spend money and have fun. but maybe, just maybe if you are lucky, you may get a little bit back. its all for fun
i would have liked to see the gold you got with that set up,i really like the clean ups and smiling faces seeig the gold in the sluce or pan. great video
The amount of flow/pressure that you were losing due to the coupling problem was robbing HUGE amounts of suction from your nozzle. I know that you realize that, but I don't know whether you understand the MAGNITUDE?
There are several side creeks in the area with very steep descent.Ideal for the suction nozzle or power jet . I'm not near enough to one of these tributaries to use this setup. the bedrock is just too good where I am. for now I'm using gravity only dredging at the top of the system using a three inch pipe and hose,and yes,with a hundred feet of pipe there's great potential for jams. I try to be mindful of what enters the nozzle. Best of luck,
Bro your vid rocks. I have not known much about the gravity dredge. The concept, yes, to an extent, but I like that you not only saw your mistakes, but seem like the type of person to learn from them. Very cool. I don't sell a thing. But I was looking at a "Desert fox" to retrieve gold, and I bring that up cuz it's like $300, almost the cost of your hose. And I THINK you may shovel in more material, and retrieve more for about the same price. Not sure. I would like to build a repore. TY, ~Kev~
Thanks for the compliment Kev. Might be hard for us to build a repore since there is a good possibility I will be in Nome AK this summer. I will be taking pictures and video of my trip, and yes the trip is prospecting related. What do you call home mate?
I have the gold miner.. pretty much the same design. Its a great machine and it was about 3 bills. I generally use it at home for fine recovery of my cons.. works absolutely great if set properly. I use a 12 mesh because 1/2 mesh kicks out some of the fine gold. You can use 1/2 in the field with some practice on water flow and tilt position of the wheel. It is a "must have" when you bring home buckets of material. It has many many hours on it and still works great!
It is smooth on both sides, but even if it was ribbed I was only using the pipe to transport water to create pressure for the venturi at the end of the suction nozzle. If you were to suck gravels from the top you would have 85 feet of potential rock jams.
hey like the idea,but instead of a rock at the end, try a gate valve cracked open just enough to let the air out,then when your done let er flow,could even try quick connect fittings to streamline the process and allow for more time dredging ?
Great video! I have been wanting to do what you did here. Just havent been motivated yet. I want to build a 4" with lay flat using a jet instead of suction nozzle. I love the idea of not paying for gas. Just need to figure out how to power an air compressor with the gravity flow! Thanks for the motivation.
I've been working on the same thing but I,m using a suction log instead of a nozzle. The area I'm going to is very remote so I'm experimenting with smaller diameter suction hose to get it there in one trip.
Great video. I was impressed that you used the opposite end of the pipe for the energy to run your nozzle instead of my method (very creative!). But ouch the pipe does sound kinda pricy. none the less though, it is a first rate video and you work the camera like a rock star.
Pretty Cool. But seems like to much work for the money. @ $255.00 for the hose you could add a few more hundred and buy a nice second hand backpack dredge. But still pretty cool.
hope he can make gas money.
maxinpains 8 months ago
I have thought about this alot and with enough tube u could gvet around the dredging laws!great vidieo
ucamper08 10 months ago
@ucamper08
Itsn't in a ban on all suction dredging? Or just gas powered dredging?
Woodchuckk 3 months ago
The pressure is reduced as you go from 4" to 2", but the speed is increased.
exanchorite 1 year ago
hey exanchorite, good work but little confusing, some gravity dredges trap pay dirt in there ribbing along the 100 ft or so of pipe, but clean up is a problem, with your suction nossel do you need another short section of pipe to a sluice box close to where you are working?, post another effort all connected up, im sure youve developed a far better gravity dredge not obvious to us less imaginative persons, the gravity dredge is all about getting out into nature and enjoying the piece and quite.
starflash08 1 year ago
Thanks Star,
Yes another section of hose attached to a sluice box. You can start at the top with a larger diameter hose and get more suction or just get more hose and a taller drop. I gave my hose away when I moved to AK. Most likely won't be testing this idea further since I'm making an ice diving dredge right now.
-Kevin
exanchorite 1 year ago
@exanchorite i know im a bit thick but if the hose to the sluice is separate to the long hose providing the fall and suction, how does the short hose suck up the gravels, vortex?, cheers david
starflash08 1 year ago
They call it a Venturi effect. The whole concept of a gravity dredge came to me from the old timers hydraulicing. Google hydraulicing. The basic idea is to take a large volume of water in conjunction with gravity and reduce the size of the pipe the water travels in as you get lower in elevation. Gravity creates a certain amount of pressure as the weight of the water in the pipe above has nowhere to go but down. The reduction in pipe size from large to small creates a "venturi effect".
exanchorite 1 year ago
Google venturi effect. When you reduce the size of the pipe the pressure does not increase or stay the same, the pressure decreases, but the velocity (speed) of the water increases. The speed of the water is what creates the suction. In my case I used just one size hose to see what gravity could do on its own. I reduced it down from 2" to 1" with a suction nozzle. I got mediocre results.
exanchorite 1 year ago
If I had the same amount of fall and hose length, but I started with a 4" pipe and reduced down to a 2" pipe and then down to my 1" suction nozzle the velocity of the water would be even faster and the suction would be even greater. Because of the venturi effect 4” of water reduced to 2” equals increased velocity and 2" down to 1" increases velocity again which will increase suction on a jet log or suction nozzle.
exanchorite 1 year ago
Fabulous!!!
SFR1985 1 year ago
by the way, this video is confusing as fuck, remake it.
9DragonMaster 1 year ago
i wonder if working at a waterfall would be better =D I'll have to make a vid i guess, i see this fuckin hose all the time and im always wondering what i could use it for, now i gotta go find some again!
9DragonMaster 1 year ago
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I have a tool that creates very high vacuum underwater, much higher than any small dredge now being used to look for Placer Gold, I am looking to talk to someone with experience in this area. You can see the tool if you do a search for "Barton abrasive removal tool" where you will see it being used to vacuum fine solids (garnet and expended media) from water filled tanks. email if interested placergolddredge@yahoo.com
jdshep1 1 year ago
Use a few feet of rigid hose then clamp on some of that collapsible blue hose to it. It's much cheaper and works the same.
captjames5 1 year ago
nice video
oceanghost2006 1 year ago
I would like to see a vid of it attached to a sluice box. Kinda spendy on the hose!
mrfish40 1 year ago
here ya go buddy hint of the day start with a 6 in. hose down to 1 1/2 in or 2 in =p
MrSokitumi 1 year ago
That's pretty cool dude, nice work. I might have to give that idea a go around here, as i don't have money for an actual dredge.
scarumanga 1 year ago
what about making a wood plug to put in it insead of a rock? love the idel got my little pea brain working lol bob threet SMGP//GPAA missouri
bobinmissouri 2 years ago
Cool
TheDownunderHunter 2 years ago
why don't you just get a highbanker with a recirculating water pump that runs off a car battery? that way you could run your concentrates through the highbanker and do your cleanup in a gold pan later.
2yung4u 2 years ago
Good Idea. The purpose of a gravity dredge is to be able to dredge in remote places with no electricity or gasoline required. I wonder how long a battery would power a 2" pump before needing to be recharged on a highbanker. All the hose I brought in weighs about 60lb which is what one car battery would weigh. The cool thing about a gravity dredge is if it works on a small scale you can scale it up as long as you have enough water for your 6" or 8" dredge.
exanchorite 2 years ago
cool vid but what happened to the backpack dredge vid? Ever prospect in Oregon?
joecugo 2 years ago
Thanks Joe. I got the wrong motor and my pontoons were too heavy, so I just made a regular 3" dredge.
exanchorite 2 years ago
"At first, if the idea doesn't sound absurd, than there is no hope for it" ~ Albert Einstein
Props to anyone who tries everything. I have, and yes, the heads turn.. but I'm getting gold:) Great job man.
tubecat72072 2 years ago
so where do I get one of those suction nozzles?
metropool 2 years ago
amazes me how much time people waste in this "hobby" I want to see some cost.benefit analysis to this lunacy or some bank statements before I go swamping with the copperheads
metropool 2 years ago
It's more than just prospecting. It's getting out into nature and enjoying yourself. I'm not selling anything here, just informing other prospectors of what is possible. I never got into this hobby with dreams of getting rich, but I have been very fortunate and if you keep watching my videos I will show you what is possible for a full time miner.
exanchorite 2 years ago
@metropool
think about golf. you go out and spend money and have fun. now think about gold. you go out and spend money and have fun. but maybe, just maybe if you are lucky, you may get a little bit back. its all for fun
chestateegold 1 year ago
@metropool you should just stay at home, doing your 9 to 7:30, 6 days a week job. Leave the fun/adventure/$1200peroz gold to us.....
ds1919ds1919 1 year ago
i would have liked to see the gold you got with that set up,i really like the clean ups and smiling faces seeig the gold in the sluce or pan. great video
tappakeggaday1 2 years ago
Great video! Your enthusiasm is contagious.
The amount of flow/pressure that you were losing due to the coupling problem was robbing HUGE amounts of suction from your nozzle. I know that you realize that, but I don't know whether you understand the MAGNITUDE?
Heavy Pans,
faaus
riverbender 2 years ago
Good going
We have a 200 ac. claim in No CA
There are several side creeks in the area with very steep descent.Ideal for the suction nozzle or power jet . I'm not near enough to one of these tributaries to use this setup. the bedrock is just too good where I am. for now I'm using gravity only dredging at the top of the system using a three inch pipe and hose,and yes,with a hundred feet of pipe there's great potential for jams. I try to be mindful of what enters the nozzle. Best of luck,
BigBrian500 2 years ago
Bro your vid rocks. I have not known much about the gravity dredge. The concept, yes, to an extent, but I like that you not only saw your mistakes, but seem like the type of person to learn from them. Very cool. I don't sell a thing. But I was looking at a "Desert fox" to retrieve gold, and I bring that up cuz it's like $300, almost the cost of your hose. And I THINK you may shovel in more material, and retrieve more for about the same price. Not sure. I would like to build a repore. TY, ~Kev~
unclearless 2 years ago
Thanks for the compliment Kev. Might be hard for us to build a repore since there is a good possibility I will be in Nome AK this summer. I will be taking pictures and video of my trip, and yes the trip is prospecting related. What do you call home mate?
exanchorite 2 years ago
I have the gold miner.. pretty much the same design. Its a great machine and it was about 3 bills. I generally use it at home for fine recovery of my cons.. works absolutely great if set properly. I use a 12 mesh because 1/2 mesh kicks out some of the fine gold. You can use 1/2 in the field with some practice on water flow and tilt position of the wheel. It is a "must have" when you bring home buckets of material. It has many many hours on it and still works great!
tubecat72072 2 years ago
I noticed that the pipe is ribbed. Does anyone know if there is a risk of the gold gathering in the pipe instead of the sluice box?
tuvoca 2 years ago
Hey tuvoca,
It is smooth on both sides, but even if it was ribbed I was only using the pipe to transport water to create pressure for the venturi at the end of the suction nozzle. If you were to suck gravels from the top you would have 85 feet of potential rock jams.
exanchorite 2 years ago
Yes it does collect some until the riffles are "Full" of heavy material.
shopken1 2 years ago
Real cool video Dude, will be looking for more like this from you in future.
robofx69 2 years ago
hey like the idea,but instead of a rock at the end, try a gate valve cracked open just enough to let the air out,then when your done let er flow,could even try quick connect fittings to streamline the process and allow for more time dredging ?
contenderplacer 2 years ago
Good job.......enjoyed watching.
hixonAu 2 years ago
Great video! I have been wanting to do what you did here. Just havent been motivated yet. I want to build a 4" with lay flat using a jet instead of suction nozzle. I love the idea of not paying for gas. Just need to figure out how to power an air compressor with the gravity flow! Thanks for the motivation.
Idigauinca 2 years ago
Yeah the jet would be nice.. they have a lot more suction I've heard.
exanchorite 2 years ago
Hey, I really liked your video.
I've been working on the same thing but I,m using a suction log instead of a nozzle. The area I'm going to is very remote so I'm experimenting with smaller diameter suction hose to get it there in one trip.
surfnhamster 2 years ago
Great video. I was impressed that you used the opposite end of the pipe for the energy to run your nozzle instead of my method (very creative!). But ouch the pipe does sound kinda pricy. none the less though, it is a first rate video and you work the camera like a rock star.
ron
mnbvczxc 3 years ago
Thanks Ron!
exanchorite 3 years ago
Pretty Cool. But seems like to much work for the money. @ $255.00 for the hose you could add a few more hundred and buy a nice second hand backpack dredge. But still pretty cool.
FunWithTreasure2 3 years ago
awsome-you could even run an impeller and turn a generator for free power.
m3sca1 3 years ago