So... Can you make a homeopathic poison by the same logic? Like say.. putting a tiny amount of sugar in some water. The more you dilute that, shouldn't it induce a diabetic coma in whoever takes it?
I think your explanation of Homeopathy is pretty close. While your suggestion to refer to the sidebar is honest enough, the first video listed is one by Ullman. It'd probably be better to do a Youtube search for "Randi explains Homeopathy" or go to homeowatch org.
I'd give you two thumbs up, but Youtube only allows the one. :-)
@Ziztur Thank you so much for making this vid. The more people we find who will help to share in demonstrating that homeopathy is not medice, but lactose sugar pills and grain alcohol tinctures, the more we'll impede the practitioners of quackery from placing children and adults in harm's way.
You didn't Quite explain homeopathy correctly? Where the hell did you even pull that crock of shit from anyway? You're in no place to make a video trying to disprove homeopathy, if you don't even know what homeopathy is. And your description that you added in the video info is not quite accurate either. But Regardless, any good homeopath will tell you that over-the-counter homeopathic remedies will not work. Those are a scam. So that's all you've proven, and good homeopaths already know that.
I laughed when you mentioned that children are supposed to take 1/2 the adult dose. Wouldn't that make it stronger? Glad you survived and are fighting the good fight.
Homeopathy works and is the most advanced science of healing, scientists has proved it,(search IIT BOMBAY HOMEOPATHY) and the research paper appeared in PEER reviewed well established journal and the result was published after 4 years of study on nanotechnology and homeopathy by scientists of IIT Bombay.
This definitely shows that HOMEOPATHY is the MOST ADVANCED science of healing and medicine of present and future.
@drchristoaa That was not a citation (A citation looks like this: Ernst E (2002), "A systematic review of systematic reviews of homeopathy", Br J Clin Pharmacol 54 (6): 577--582) but I searched anyway. Yes, it was "PEER" reviewed, but published in a journal of homeopathy. Even if there were particles of metals in water, this does not demonstrate that homeopathy is effective. To demonstrate that homeopathy is effective, you have to... demonstrate that homeopathy is effective!
@drchristoaa furthermore, the researchers used "market samples" of popular medicines to test for minute particles of metal. My guess is that these "market samples" did not use distilled water (or water already free of metal particles), and the water of the "market samples" was not tested for metal particles before being used in the homeopathic remedy. This does not prove that homeopathy works. It shows that metal particles can be detected in commercially produced homeopathy remedies.
@Ziztur sorry you are worng,the truth is biological action of homeopathic medicne is already proved in clinical experence, answer my question Have u ever taken homeopathic medicine for any disease?
@drchristoaa I think that the numerous citations and journal articles I provided in the information section of my video and the general scientific consensus beg to differ.
I have not taken a homeopathic medication to treat any disease, but I do not rely on anecdotal evidence for my position on homeopathy. My personal experience would be merely anecdotal. I have never broken a bone, but I can rely on the scientific consensus to know that setting the bone with casting works to heal broken bones.
@drchristoaa The Organon of Medicine, the first book written by Hahnemann, is considered by many to be the "Bible of Homeopathy". Then he wrote Materica Medica, which some people also consider to be the "Bible of Homeopathy".
Your turn! Tell me how much "u" know about research"?" Why is effect size important in research?
@Ziztur Good, smart reply.i know the fact that homeopathy works, because it cures and it is my personal experience and what my 2000 patients said.
So my conclussion is if there ia effect means then there is a cause behind it. And that research in homeopathy is to find the cause how it acts and now science has proved the fact how homeopathy works.
@drchristoaa Well, you didn't actually talk about effect size. Effect size is a measure of the strength of the relationship between two variables in a statistical population, or a sample-based estimate of that quantity. Can you tell me why this is important in medical research?
Lots of diseases are self-limiting (meaning they go away on their own without any intervention) and lots of complaints are nonspecific, and thus highly susceptible to placebo.
@drchristoaa I don't have to "feel" that eczema in children is self-limiting, it is self-limiting! Here, have a citation: Coupland S, Popay J, Naysmith, K. The epidemiology and experience of atopic eczema during childhood: a discussion paper on the implications of current knowledge for health care, public health policy and research. Journal of Epidemiology & Community Health 54, no. 8 (2000): 581-589
I didn't say anything about curing it with a placebo.
@Ziztur sorry i have to go now, read Ghai,Essential of pediatrics. fifth ed, page 509, Here it is mentioned that atopic dermatitis is never self limiting, and never with in 2 days and never with placebo.
But Homeopathy cures it.... Homeopathy works and is the most advanced science of healing. understand it..know it experience it.
@drchristoaa I have to go too but Atlas of clinical dermatology By Anthony Du Vivier, Phillip H. McKee, page 38, disagrees with Essential Pediatrics, stating, "atopic dermatitis is a common chronic but eventually self-limiting inflammatory disorder, mainly of childhood, but sometimes persisting into adult life." Does Essential Pediatrics REALLY say "atopic dermatitis is never self limiting, and never with in 2 days and never with placebo"? That's oddly specific.
@drchristoaa I never said eczema was cured by a placebo. Eczema is difficult to diagnose even for dermatologists, perhaps you misdiagnosed. Eczema is also not limited to only atopic dermatitis, it is a collection of skin disorders. What about contact dermatitis, Seborrhoeic dermatitis, Xerotic eczema, Autoeczematization, Dermatitis herpetiformis, Neurodermatitis, Discoid eczema, Dyshidrosis, or Venous eczema?
@Ziztur Dear , i never became a physician just in one day. I finished my studies after 6 years + 2 years, I do Have the eligiblity to diagnose a skin conditon.
so our topic is Homeopathy? can u do a test for me? please take homeopathic medicne GLONOINE 30C,5 pill 2 hourly for four days. and can you report me what happened to you. According to you sugar cant cause any symptoms, be genuine to your self if u are a true researcher.
@drchristoaa I never said you do not have the eligibility to diagnose eczema. I said eczema is often misdiagnosed (by physicians and even experienced dermatologists) So are you saying that you are somehow immune from misdiagnosing?
Me taking homeopathic pills is anecdotal evidence. A true researcher would do a literature review, form a workable and falsifiable hypothesis, develop methods to test that hypothesis, and then perform research on multiple subjects.
@drchristoaa Anyway, where would I find a homeopath in St. Louis willing to give me glonoine 30c for the purposes of a case study experiment on myself?
@Ziztur Luyties Pharmacal Co., 4200 Laclede St., St. Louis, MO 63108, tel 1-800-HOMEOPATHY,1-800-466-3672, fax 314-535-9600
Thanks for accepting to do some real research. go to the pharmacy and ask for Glonoine 30c(pills/liquid), and take 5 pills 2 hourly for four days.(The reaction which is going to happen is severe headache) this process is called drug proving in homeopathy
Try and reply to me.i feel u are honest and genuine.
@drchristoaa I am very surprised a pharmacy would just give me a remedy without a prescription if I merely ask for it. But we shall see. I have emailed you privately.
@drchristoaa Congratulations for making it through an entire response without using caps-lock or your mantra of homeopathy is the most advanced science of healing nonsense.
You haven't responded to Mike's proving for 10:23 with nux vom?
@drchristoaa "i know the fact that homeopathy works, because it cures and it is my personal experience and what my 2000 patients said."
The first reason is circular, the second is irrelevant, and the last reason is placebo. You're financially wrapped up in the industry so you WANT to come to the conclusion that homeopathy is effective. It isn't effective above placebo, sorry. Stop fooling yourself, your patients and trying to fool us!
@drchristoaa eczema is a group of skin conditions with various causes, it's not really a specific disease. In children it is mostly self-limiting and goes away on it's own, or goes away and then reoccurs. It's not a placebo, it probably diminished on its own. What would be really interesting is a study comparing homeopathy to a placebo control on the treatment of eczema. If the homeopathy group experiences less observable eczema than the placebo, then you would show there is an effect.
@Ziztur Dear, i am medical physician, i never waited for a eczyma to disappear it self. But i give homeopathic medicine and it goes off with in 2 days or 3. But i have seen the presentations in which eczyma progressed and even caused death of infants.
Common cause of eczyma is bacteria maily staphyloccinum.
Dear i see the effect and cure by using homeopathic medicne than modern medicne.
@drchristoaa Well, I am an OTD researcher, though I don't like to flaunt my credentials. If you have such am amazing cure, I suggest you submit a grant to the NIH to fund a study, rather than post patronizing comments on youtube. You'll do a lot more good that way if you really have something.
Also, you have not answered my question about Effect Size.
@drchristoaa Even distilling water does not remove all impurities. These metal particles could have been easily present in the starting water. We don't know, because the paper's authors do not say which brand of homeopathic remedy they purchased, only that they purchased them from a store. Once again, the presence of metal particles in a homeopathic remedy does not demonstrate that homeopathy is effective.
@drchristoaa Have you read the paper? I just did. Smart people can do bad research. If they ruled out these possibilities, then why did they not mention it? They stated that they could not get the remedies directly from the company and so purchased them from the market. What are the chances that they are privy to the manufacturing methods? My guess is that the manufacturing methods introduce impurities such as trace metals found in most water sources.
@drchristoaa You didn't read the study if you think it was a double blind test. It wasn't. There was no blinding or double blinding whatsoever. They also made no comparisons to control solutions. I know this, because I have the study right here in front of me. Here is a citation to it so you can find it: Chikramane PS, Suresh AK, Bellare JR, Kane SG. Extreme homeopathic dilutions retain starting materials: A nanoparticulate perspective. Homeopathy. 2010 Oct;99(4):231-42.
the researchers received confirmation of the existence of nanoparticles at two different homeopathic high potencies (30C and 200C) and because they tested four different medicines (Zincum met./zinc; Aurum met. /gold; Stannum met./tin; and Cuprum met./copper), the researchers concluded that this study provides “concrete evidence.”
@drchristoaa Great! Citation needed please! Also, perhaps there are particles, but do they have an observable effect on disease states? Did they test this on distilled water? Were the experimenters blinded? I need a citation of this study. Some studies are great, and others are poor. I can't accept this "concrete evidence" without reading the methods.
New research conducted at the respected Indian Institutes of Technology has confirmed the presence of “nanoparticles” of the starting materials even at extremely high dilutions of homeopathic medicines. Researchers have demonstrated by Transmission Electron Microscopy (TEM), electron diffraction and chemical analysis by Inductively Coupled Plasma-Atomic Emission Spectroscopy (ICP-AES), the presence of physical entities in these extreme dilutions.
Keep up the good work, Ziztur. Don't let the pro-Homeopathy crowd get you down. They're envious of medical science the way all magic believing types are envious of science in general.
Homeopathy sycophants, post your verifiable, peer-reviewed evidence of your claims, or shut up, dry up and blow away already.
I was distracted with your beauty. Keep up the great video. Marry me or I will take 10 bottles of Sleep Aid. Also, I am a bit lactose intolerant, so if I do not die from overdose, I get gas.
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Madam, try homeopathic medicine KALI CYNATUM 1X,4 TABLETS for sucide ok, bite and break the tongue and allow the medicine to mix with your blood , it acts fast...
HOMEOPATHY WORKS AND IS THE MOST ADVANCED SCIENCE OF HEALING.SCIENCE HAS PROVED IT RECENTLY, GOOGLE SEARCH-IIT BOMBAY HOMEOPATHY
@jamesbondking Right, so you're telling me that I should take some cyanide, dilute ("success") it to a 1:10 ratio, drip said "medicine" on some tablets and then mix said tablets with an open wound in my mouth. Clearly you think this is very clever, but your suggestion can hardly be called "homeopathy" as you are betraying the very principals you are trying to advocate. You must have SOME understanding of the dose-response effect to understand why cyanide tablets will kill people.
@Ziztur friend, the homeopathic diltuion starts from 1X to CM potency, and the main drug proving was done in 1x potency of the drugs, and the same drug in higher potency is found to cure the conditon caused,Hence the pills which you took does have only curative action for those who suffer from sleeplessness and shoud be taken in reccomented dosage to heal.
so if you want to see action of dilutions of 30c, then in healthy state take homeopathic medicine GLONOINE 30C,5 pills 2 hourly for 4 days.
@Ziztur You dont understand ABC....Of Homeopathy, with 0 Understanding of homeopathy how foolish are you to test homeopathic medicine. Read understand experience and then respond
HOMEOPATHY WORKS AND IS THE MOST ADVANCED SCIENCE OF HEALING
@jamesbondking What part of homeopathy do I not understand? Good double blind placebo controlled studies conclude with fair certainty that homeopathy is no more effective than a placebo. I think my references and explanation in the "more info" section will indicate that I understand it just fine. Since you appear incapable of backing up your assertions with evidence but very capable of committing ad hominem fallacies (repeatedly), I will maintain my position that you have no evidence to give.
Thank you for eating that bottle of sugar for us. I wouldn't waste my blood sugar spike on it. It amazes me how many people know more about pseudoscience than real science. I wonder what would happen if you contacted poison control about it, they would probably laugh.
ziztur has got what she wants.Attention.Uploading a video and talking about a subject she doesn't understand,while wearing a short skirt,dropping the pills so the camera can show her legs.Shes nuts,but shes got 17000 views.wow!
This is how a remedy is distinguished from distilled water: check for the dielectric constant! A bottle of remedy can be easily distinguished from 99 control bottles of distilled water!
Ok if Homeopathy works. then you should be able to take a substance that cases XYZ symptoms in some one put a small amount of it in 10 parts of water and do that several times and a person with the XYZ symptoms that comes into the office take that pill and they will be fine.
If that is the case one could do that to vodka, beer, whiskey, etc take a pill and be sober again.
dear friend, the action of medicne and vodka is totally different, first study how human body functions, then study homeopathy , then experience homeopathy...do you know the fact that how much amount of hormone is needed to make some changes in our body functions?
@jamesbondking well right it is different. If abc substance causes xyz symptoms you then you take a small part of abc and put it in a "jar" shake, take small part of that and repeat to get the medicine. Isn't that how it works?
@blva888 high concentration of drug in body increases the present symptoms of the patient, so our founder started diluting so that the disease symptoms do not increase on taking the drug, and he found out that only a small amount of medicine is needed to make a cure or to stimulate the recovary process in our body.
@jamesbondking diluting xyz makes a small about of xyz present. Diluting even more makes it just about non existent or no traces what so ever. the more diluting something is the less of it or none of it there is. But then again WTF do I care if you or any one spends there money on this crap. I would love to see a chemical analysis of diluting something 10X
Everyone who has taken a first-year course in chemistry knows that something cannot become nothing.
A chemical analysis? You're way behind the times. That's Newtonian. This is the 21st century, and we're using quantum physics. Guess you didn't know that photoelectric cells are used to measure the intensity and wave length of substances in homeopathics.
You're wondering how a remedy can be distinguished from distilled water?
@den151redbank I think I know which study you're talking about, and it wasn't even blinded. Jeez. If you don't blind your study, you're going to see what you want to see.
Quantum physics is not used to test the content of water, nor does it have anything to do with chemistry. Also, your magical water vibrations of the 15 dimension are complete nonsense. A recent test done on homeopathic mega water showed that other then the smallest of molecules, so small it couldn't be identified, it is exactly like distilled water.
Real is scientific homeopathy. It cures even when Conventional Allopathic Medicine (CAM) fails. Evidence-based modern homeopathy is a nano-medicine bringing big results for everyone
@DrNancyMalik Uh. In the earlier days it was quantum based, now it's nano based. Whatever the current buzzwords are, right? So, why are there no RIGOROUS studies that prove homeopathy works? With rigorous I mean randomized double blind studies.
Homeopathic pills containing naturally occurring metals such as gold, copper and iron retain their potency even when diluted to a nanometre or one-billionth of a metre, states the IIT-Bombay research published in the latest issue of 'Homeopathy', a peer-reviewed journal from reputed medical publishing firm Elsevier
Homeopathy is the most advanced science of theraputics.. science has proved it....
The water that those metals were diluted in have touched many other substances over the course of the earth's history billions of years before homeopathy was invented. You are a fucking idiot.
@sellingmypokecards, my dear friend, first study what is homeopathy, experiences how it cures the disease, you know, my grandfather was diagnosed to have oesophagal carcinoma , and your modern medicine doctors(experts from USA) told that there is no scope and he will die with in 23 days, but with homeopathic treatment since 4 years he is doing good, and he is taking just homeopathic medicines....now he can swallow food, still the modern medicine doctor phone him, and they are surprised,it works
@sellingmypokecards , i just told the reason why i belive in homeopathy, and this experience happened to one wh om i liked the most, homeopathy saved him....homeopathy works... you too try ,experience it then, if u failed to recover then critizice it.....
it is experience....and myself and my family,realtives all take just homeopathic medicnes since many years, and we are untouched by chemical drugs since last 10 years,
Science was not advanced to prove how homeopathy works, but now science has done it with the help of nano science.
eg:since many years earth was rotating around sun, also earth rotated it self, and hence we could experience day and night, but the true fact why day and night comes was proved just recently.
@jamesbondking No, science hasn't proved that homeopathy magically works because of nano science. What a dubious journal article claims to have shown is that the dilution isn't as good as people claim it is, which is to be expected when contaminated tools are used.
James Randy can suck my dick. Whatever works for u, bottomline is to be healthy. If u get healthy by eating grass. Eat it. It doesn't matter whether its, allo, homo, or any other pathy. Allopathy is usually fast acting and can cure diseases in a technological trashy world of today. Homeopathy is slow acting but cures the disease once and for all. So, every medicine has its own Pros and Cons. Enjoy life, don't judge, as we all r dumb you tubers, not MD's.
In homepathy it's said that you shouldn't touch the pills, you just put them under your tongue from the container. Also, it's not the amount of pills what's important but the frequency that the pills are taken. Try taking the same remedy, 3 pills under the tongue every 5 minutes (let them dissolve under your tongue) and see if you can tell any difference in 1 hour +/-.
@fkoff99 What is the mechanism by which homeopathy's effects are neutralized because you touched the pills?
Other people have done such an experiment, and I might do it too, though it seems kind of pointless - I imagine the homeopathy believers will simply say that I faked it, or that I altered the pills, or some other such nonsense.
@Ziztur I'm just telling you what homeopaths say. If it's nonsense or not I don't know. I'm just giving you the information for you to do the "experiment" in a right way when you take a homeopathic remedy. I didn't leave you the comment to contrast personal opinions or judge the efficacy of homeopathy, just telling you the way in how homeopathic remedies are taken, that's it.
@Ziztur It would matter in your credibility in front of homepaths and people that support homeopathy and are watching the video. It would give you more credibility if you do it the right way (under the homeopathic point of view). You know what I mean? If you are doing an experiment about the efficacy or inefficacy of a remedy, follow the guidelines that are related to that therapy. Even if you agree or not, but It would give you more coherence, objectivity formality in the experiment.
But see you drank water, and that negated the effects of the homeopathic stuff. because you know that water probably went through a swamp at some point, picking up all kinds of other stuff. Bird poop, horse manure, etc. Yum! ;-)
I saw an article where a guy fell into a vat of DHM (di-hydrogen monoxide), the main constituent of homeopathic medicines. He died, due to inhalation of the DHM, thus proving the potency and danger of it.
So I say stay away from homeopathic medicine as it is really dangerous.
@den151redbank Really? You've been "wasting your time" with me for over a year! I don't get how you can claim several times that you're not going to be wasting your time here, yet you keep coming back. It's just another way for you to be dismissive of evidence and throw yet another ad hominem my way.
@den151redbank Look up the definition of ad hominem fallacy. I didnt say because you are thick as pig shit what you say about homeopathy is wrong, I said you are thick as a concrete slab because you believe in this snake oil homeopath horseshit peddling scam. See a fallacy is only created when one attacks the person and then claims this is an attack on the claim. That was not an ad hominem because merely calling someone a name is not a fallacy, especially when its true.
Anyone with a true interest in studies evidencing for homeopathy will find many of them at the web site for the National Center for Homeopathy.
There are 100's proving h'pathy works and a hand full not proving it works. Here's just one. It proves that h'pathy ameliorates the negative effects of conventional cancer treatment: Kassab, et. al., 2009.
This post is for readers with an interest in and who want to use a truly curative system of medicine.
@den151redbank I just read that study. It more or less says that reviews on studies of homeopathy for cancer were studied, and half of those studies showed a negative effect, half showed a positive effect. Only one of them was a high quality study. If you were looking at a medicine in which half the studies showed a positive effect and half showed a negative, effect (taking into account that positive studies are more likely to be published) would you say that medicine was amazingly effective?
@den151redbank In fact, the study itself says, "There is no convincing evidence for the efficacy of other homeopathic medicines for adverse symptoms and skin reactions" and, "Further RCTs of homeopathic medicines for adverse symptoms
and skin reactions related to radiotherapy are needed to confirm
the results described in this review." So your amazing evidence is one review in which one single remedy showed promise, but is uncomplicated in further studies. That is not impressive.
@den151redbank Also, here is an actual citation of your study:
Kassab S, Cummings M, Berkovitz S, van Haselen R, Fisher P. Homeopathic medicines for adverse effects of cancer treatments. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2009, Issue 2
@den151redbank I also picked up and read the one positive study, which was not double blinded nor placebo controlled. This kind of study would never pass muster in what you dub "western" medicine. This kind of study would not pass FDA approval. I would not, therefore, trust it over medicine shown effective by more robust means.
@Ziztur Here is the citation for your one positive study, which actually appears to not even be a study on homeopathy. How did it even get into this review?:
P. Pommier, F. Gomez, M.P. Sunyach, A. D'Hombres, C. Carrie, X. Montbarbon Phase III Randomized Trial of Calendula Officinalis Compared With Trolamine for the Prevention of Acute Dermatitis During Irradiation for Breast Cancer Journal of Clinical Oncology, Vol 22, No 8 (April 15), 2004: pp. 1447-1453
What I wonder is... when any substance is diluted to such an extent, and they make pills (or solutions, etc) isn't it very likely that, since the likelihood of the "active" substance occuring in the final product is very close to (almost certainly) zero, and considering the vast number of different molecules that exist, that any other molecule from any other "valid" remedy is present, or have been present during the succussing (?) either from water, chalk, lactose extract, or whatever, ,
Your video doesn't prove at all that Calms Forte doesn't work. Drinking 10 packs of herbal tea won't kill me either. So what? This doesn't mean it can't help me relax via its natural properties. You need to critically assess your assumptions before posting a video that, ultimately, results in nothing but a non sequitur. Poor skeptics. Always sacrificing logic for the sake of their petty skepticism.
@dramafreeek I never said that it proved anything. I trust empirical science, and I don't think that's petty. I made no assumptions. I read research articles and made this video for fun, but also to give links to said research.
Of course, there is no statistical significance in a non-double-blinded, one person study such as this, but nice video, especially the smoke effects.
For your personal safety, you should have had some passion flower to hand, because you would be counteracting to potency of the homeopathetic sugar pills by increasing the concentration of 'active' ingredient solute in your body. Possibly a passionfruit yoghurt might also have worked.
Viewers should of course only take FDA approved medication.
I couldn't even continue to watch the rest of this video. You have absolutely no idea on how homeopathy works. Here's the deal, the oh so lovely FDA, mandates the remedies, and as such they apply the same principle to OTC meds as they do the homeopathy remedies, which is why there is a warning. The succussion method you mentioned (shaking the remedy) has to do only when you dilute the pill in water, and THEN you are to shake it. Please do not get on here talking about something you do not
I took a college course in homeopathy. You might consider doing the same - there are even free courses you can take online.
You don't shake a diluted pill. You success a quantity of "remedy" to dilute it. Once diluted to a certain power designated by a homeopath, the solution is dripped onto pills. It is dripped onto pills because pills are more convenient and easier to administer.
Some people seem not have access to internet. On internet you can search for research in homeopathy in for example medical journals. Or see all those homeopathic hospitals in UK, USA, EU. To be sceptic and critical does not means it is more scientific. Her trial is not scientific, it is not repeated during different times during a longer period. Allopathic painkiller is not always working and all cancer patient is not saved by chemotheraphy either.
If a child took a half a dose..... that would be twice as strong as the adult dose, according to the basic principles of homeopathy. What a crock of shit it is, it is sad to think we live in a society where people are walking around among us believing shit like this. But then again, Tom Cruise is a Scientologist... go figure. Michael Savage wrote "The Complete Guide to Homeopathy"...... what a loon.
well there goes my motervation sleeping pills have got to be the most painless way to die i have found a site that you can get them without perscription and ive been thinking maybe when im board from now on i might just take a pill or two btw im not suicidal it does cross my mind though
I caught a relative (an incurable rube), buying a traditional Chinese herbal remedy a couple of years ago. When I pointed out the ingredients contained monkey semen she went bananas (lawl), and refused to take any more.
Moral of the story : most people are idiots and will take medicines without even reading the ingredients.
I caught a relative (an incurable rube), buying a traditional Chinese herbal remedy a couple of years ago. When I pointed out the ingredients contained monkey semen she went bananas (lawl), and refused to take any more.
Moral of the story : most people are idiots and will take medicines without even reading the ingredients.
Calms Forte is a combination remedy and people are being misdirected by being told to swallow them with water. The people who manufacture them are ripping people off. I am surprised they work at all and my advice is to avoid them. Go see a reputable homeopath if you have trouble sleeping. These pills and other combination remedies are against the essential principles of homeopathy.
Whether you take one pill or a hundred at a time, it is still only one dose. The manufacturers encourage you to take two or three pills so you will use up the product more quickly. You should place the pill under your tongue and let it dissolve. Do not take them like ordinary pills and swallow with water. If you really want to test homeopathy, take one pill a day over a couple of weeks or so. You will start to develop symptoms that are particular to the remedy you are taking.
@alldown2me Just flat-out wrong. If there's anything chemically active in there, chewing the pills up and swallowing them should produce near-instantaneous effects. There isn't, so voila - Ziztur or anybody else could slug them down by the handful and be just fine.
Compare - if Ziztur had chewed up and swallowed a big handful of Xanax, for example, she'd have had a very quiet second half of the video, and then died.
@phlorky I think you misunderstand the nature of homeopathic remedies. Most people criticize on the basis that there is no identifiable substance left at the end of remedy preparation....there is no chemical content. Remedies work in a way that we are not able to understand, but if you are prepared to try them according to the directions laid down by Hahnemann then they will have an effect.
@alldown2me why would we not be able to understand homeopathic remedies? what is there possibly to understand that is not fathomable? why would you trust your health to something you don't or can't understand? sounds like you're well under the influence of the placebo effect.
I think I'm going to become a homeopathic surgeon. I mean, if less is more effective, then my surgical procedures will be absolutely AWESOME when I simply stay home and play video games instead of going to the hospital and cutting on someone! I'm gonna be RICH!
@Ziztur Whenever someone says something the likes of "work in a way that we are not able to understand"? you have to know bullshit is coming your way, if you don't understand the field you are practicing, specially if its something that people's well being depends on, you should probably be arrested. Good job on swallowing the pills, did it give you diarrhea?, the sugary ones are a good laxative.
Like aspirin? No one knew how that worked until a few years ago. How many doctors were arrested for telling their patients to "take two aspirins and call me in the morning"?
The peer-review British Medical Journal states that of 2,500 commonly prescribed conventional treatments only 11% --- yes, 11% --- have been proven to be beneficial. The other 89% have either: - not been proven to do anything
- are proven to be purely harmful or
- are proven to be a toss-up between harm and benefit
Shouldn't all the doctors who prescribe these treatments every day be arrested?
@phlorky If you take Belladonna in its natural form it will kill you. If you take it in homeopathic form....one pill a day to dissolve under the tongue then you will eventually develop symptoms that are similar to being poisoned by Belladonna. The thing is, people who are anti homeopathy will not try this simple test. You should avoid coffee and strong perfumes when carrying out this test as they act as an antidote to any remedy.
Dopeopaths would claim that you did, indeed, die, from your dopeopath overdose, but that you returned to life.
There is nothing as dilute as a dopeopath's brain.
mphello 2 months ago
So... Can you make a homeopathic poison by the same logic? Like say.. putting a tiny amount of sugar in some water. The more you dilute that, shouldn't it induce a diabetic coma in whoever takes it?
htomerif 2 months ago 2
I think your explanation of Homeopathy is pretty close. While your suggestion to refer to the sidebar is honest enough, the first video listed is one by Ullman. It'd probably be better to do a Youtube search for "Randi explains Homeopathy" or go to homeowatch org.
I'd give you two thumbs up, but Youtube only allows the one. :-)
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Science has ALREADY proved ,that how and why Homeopathy works.There are millions of clinical evidences that homeopathy works.
Even the Father of modern medicine, and others suppoted homeopathy.Homeopathy cures all disease without any side effects.Modern Homeopaths
are best in diagnosing the disease using latest investigation procedures.
HOMOEOPATHY IS THE MOST ADVANCED SCIENCE OF HEALING,SAFEST,FUTURE MEDICINE
drchristoaa 4 months ago
& she didnt die :/
MRXSC1 4 months ago
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@Ziztur Thank you so much for making this vid. The more people we find who will help to share in demonstrating that homeopathy is not medice, but lactose sugar pills and grain alcohol tinctures, the more we'll impede the practitioners of quackery from placing children and adults in harm's way.
thedeeliciousplum 5 months ago
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thedeeliciousplum 5 months ago
did you know you are not supposed to touch them, and certainly not chew them? duh...
Inhisgarden 5 months ago
Science has ALREADY proved (IIT BOMBAY),that how and why Homeopathy works.There are millions of clinical evidences that homeopathy works.
Even the Father of modern medicine, and others suppoted homeopathy.Homeopathy cures all disease without any side effects.Modern Homeopaths
are best in diagnosing the disease using latest investigation procedures.
HOMOEOPATHY IS THE MOST ADVANCED SCIENCE OF HEALING,SAFEST,FUTURE MEDICINE
drchristoaa 6 months ago
@drchristoaa Homeopathy cures all disease without any side effects? That's a pretty big claim.
Smithpolly 5 months ago
this movie is awesome..going to watch this in webmovietube
KayceTolayo 7 months ago
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You look like a cheap street hooker. You dress better if you are being on camera.
jazsingnum 7 months ago
or better yet just think about taking the pill?
bhunterjoyner 8 months ago
You didn't Quite explain homeopathy correctly? Where the hell did you even pull that crock of shit from anyway? You're in no place to make a video trying to disprove homeopathy, if you don't even know what homeopathy is. And your description that you added in the video info is not quite accurate either. But Regardless, any good homeopath will tell you that over-the-counter homeopathic remedies will not work. Those are a scam. So that's all you've proven, and good homeopaths already know that.
macgeek2005 8 months ago
@macgeek2005 How do homeopaths know that homemade remedies work?
Smithpolly 5 months ago
You're doing it wrong. In order to overdose, you'd have to take 0 pills.
thegillotine09 9 months ago 2
I followed her around that day and told her she kept looking like she was going to fall asleep, lol.
delroady 9 months ago
I was trying to find the most effective sleeping pill. At least you knocked this BS out of the equation! :)
Btw, you're very pretty!
electronbabies 10 months ago
I laughed when you mentioned that children are supposed to take 1/2 the adult dose. Wouldn't that make it stronger? Glad you survived and are fighting the good fight.
murdocha 10 months ago
Nice to see a good argument between two people versed in their fields. It appears you have met your match drchristoaa.
ithinksoiis 10 months ago
Homeopathy works and is the most advanced science of healing, scientists has proved it,(search IIT BOMBAY HOMEOPATHY) and the research paper appeared in PEER reviewed well established journal and the result was published after 4 years of study on nanotechnology and homeopathy by scientists of IIT Bombay.
This definitely shows that HOMEOPATHY is the MOST ADVANCED science of healing and medicine of present and future.
drchristoaa 10 months ago 2
@drchristoaa That was not a citation (A citation looks like this: Ernst E (2002), "A systematic review of systematic reviews of homeopathy", Br J Clin Pharmacol 54 (6): 577--582) but I searched anyway. Yes, it was "PEER" reviewed, but published in a journal of homeopathy. Even if there were particles of metals in water, this does not demonstrate that homeopathy is effective. To demonstrate that homeopathy is effective, you have to... demonstrate that homeopathy is effective!
Ziztur 10 months ago
@drchristoaa furthermore, the researchers used "market samples" of popular medicines to test for minute particles of metal. My guess is that these "market samples" did not use distilled water (or water already free of metal particles), and the water of the "market samples" was not tested for metal particles before being used in the homeopathic remedy. This does not prove that homeopathy works. It shows that metal particles can be detected in commercially produced homeopathy remedies.
Ziztur 10 months ago
@Ziztur sorry you are worng,the truth is biological action of homeopathic medicne is already proved in clinical experence, answer my question Have u ever taken homeopathic medicine for any disease?
drchristoaa 10 months ago
@drchristoaa I think that the numerous citations and journal articles I provided in the information section of my video and the general scientific consensus beg to differ.
I have not taken a homeopathic medication to treat any disease, but I do not rely on anecdotal evidence for my position on homeopathy. My personal experience would be merely anecdotal. I have never broken a bone, but I can rely on the scientific consensus to know that setting the bone with casting works to heal broken bones.
Ziztur 10 months ago
@Ziztur Tell me how much u know about homeopathy? which book is known as Bible of homeopathy?
drchristoaa 10 months ago
@drchristoaa The Organon of Medicine, the first book written by Hahnemann, is considered by many to be the "Bible of Homeopathy". Then he wrote Materica Medica, which some people also consider to be the "Bible of Homeopathy".
Your turn! Tell me how much "u" know about research"?" Why is effect size important in research?
Ziztur 10 months ago
@Ziztur Good, smart reply.i know the fact that homeopathy works, because it cures and it is my personal experience and what my 2000 patients said.
So my conclussion is if there ia effect means then there is a cause behind it. And that research in homeopathy is to find the cause how it acts and now science has proved the fact how homeopathy works.
drchristoaa 10 months ago
@drchristoaa Well, you didn't actually talk about effect size. Effect size is a measure of the strength of the relationship between two variables in a statistical population, or a sample-based estimate of that quantity. Can you tell me why this is important in medical research?
Lots of diseases are self-limiting (meaning they go away on their own without any intervention) and lots of complaints are nonspecific, and thus highly susceptible to placebo.
Ziztur 10 months ago
@Ziztur so can you cure eczyma in children with pacebo with in 2 days? or do u feel that eczyma in children is self limiting disease?
drchristoaa 10 months ago
@drchristoaa I don't have to "feel" that eczema in children is self-limiting, it is self-limiting! Here, have a citation: Coupland S, Popay J, Naysmith, K. The epidemiology and experience of atopic eczema during childhood: a discussion paper on the implications of current knowledge for health care, public health policy and research. Journal of Epidemiology & Community Health 54, no. 8 (2000): 581-589
I didn't say anything about curing it with a placebo.
Ziztur 10 months ago
@Ziztur sorry i have to go now, read Ghai,Essential of pediatrics. fifth ed, page 509, Here it is mentioned that atopic dermatitis is never self limiting, and never with in 2 days and never with placebo.
But Homeopathy cures it.... Homeopathy works and is the most advanced science of healing. understand it..know it experience it.
will catch u later bye
drchristoaa 10 months ago
@drchristoaa I have to go too but Atlas of clinical dermatology By Anthony Du Vivier, Phillip H. McKee, page 38, disagrees with Essential Pediatrics, stating, "atopic dermatitis is a common chronic but eventually self-limiting inflammatory disorder, mainly of childhood, but sometimes persisting into adult life." Does Essential Pediatrics REALLY say "atopic dermatitis is never self limiting, and never with in 2 days and never with placebo"? That's oddly specific.
Ziztur 10 months ago
@drchristoaa I never said eczema was cured by a placebo. Eczema is difficult to diagnose even for dermatologists, perhaps you misdiagnosed. Eczema is also not limited to only atopic dermatitis, it is a collection of skin disorders. What about contact dermatitis, Seborrhoeic dermatitis, Xerotic eczema, Autoeczematization, Dermatitis herpetiformis, Neurodermatitis, Discoid eczema, Dyshidrosis, or Venous eczema?
Ziztur 10 months ago
@Ziztur Dear , i never became a physician just in one day. I finished my studies after 6 years + 2 years, I do Have the eligiblity to diagnose a skin conditon.
so our topic is Homeopathy? can u do a test for me? please take homeopathic medicne GLONOINE 30C,5 pill 2 hourly for four days. and can you report me what happened to you. According to you sugar cant cause any symptoms, be genuine to your self if u are a true researcher.
agree??
drchristoaa 10 months ago
@drchristoaa I never said you do not have the eligibility to diagnose eczema. I said eczema is often misdiagnosed (by physicians and even experienced dermatologists) So are you saying that you are somehow immune from misdiagnosing?
Me taking homeopathic pills is anecdotal evidence. A true researcher would do a literature review, form a workable and falsifiable hypothesis, develop methods to test that hypothesis, and then perform research on multiple subjects.
I said nothing about sugar.
Ziztur 10 months ago
@drchristoaa Anyway, where would I find a homeopath in St. Louis willing to give me glonoine 30c for the purposes of a case study experiment on myself?
Ziztur 10 months ago
@Ziztur Luyties Pharmacal Co., 4200 Laclede St., St. Louis, MO 63108, tel 1-800-HOMEOPATHY,1-800-466-3672, fax 314-535-9600
Thanks for accepting to do some real research. go to the pharmacy and ask for Glonoine 30c(pills/liquid), and take 5 pills 2 hourly for four days.(The reaction which is going to happen is severe headache) this process is called drug proving in homeopathy
Try and reply to me.i feel u are honest and genuine.
drchristoaa 10 months ago
@drchristoaa I am very surprised a pharmacy would just give me a remedy without a prescription if I merely ask for it. But we shall see. I have emailed you privately.
Ziztur 10 months ago
@drchristoaa Congratulations for making it through an entire response without using caps-lock or your mantra of homeopathy is the most advanced science of healing nonsense.
You haven't responded to Mike's proving for 10:23 with nux vom?
murdocha 10 months ago
@drchristoaa "i know the fact that homeopathy works, because it cures and it is my personal experience and what my 2000 patients said."
The first reason is circular, the second is irrelevant, and the last reason is placebo. You're financially wrapped up in the industry so you WANT to come to the conclusion that homeopathy is effective. It isn't effective above placebo, sorry. Stop fooling yourself, your patients and trying to fool us!
LAnonHubbard 10 months ago
@Ziztur Then tell me how eczyma in children get cured with in 2 days after taking homeopathic medicne? is it placebo?
drchristoaa 10 months ago
@drchristoaa citation needed.
Ziztur 10 months ago
@drchristoaa eczema is a group of skin conditions with various causes, it's not really a specific disease. In children it is mostly self-limiting and goes away on it's own, or goes away and then reoccurs. It's not a placebo, it probably diminished on its own. What would be really interesting is a study comparing homeopathy to a placebo control on the treatment of eczema. If the homeopathy group experiences less observable eczema than the placebo, then you would show there is an effect.
Ziztur 10 months ago
@Ziztur Dear, i am medical physician, i never waited for a eczyma to disappear it self. But i give homeopathic medicine and it goes off with in 2 days or 3. But i have seen the presentations in which eczyma progressed and even caused death of infants.
Common cause of eczyma is bacteria maily staphyloccinum.
Dear i see the effect and cure by using homeopathic medicne than modern medicne.
drchristoaa 10 months ago
@drchristoaa Well, I am an OTD researcher, though I don't like to flaunt my credentials. If you have such am amazing cure, I suggest you submit a grant to the NIH to fund a study, rather than post patronizing comments on youtube. You'll do a lot more good that way if you really have something.
Also, you have not answered my question about Effect Size.
Ziztur 10 months ago
@drchristoaa Then, we would be able to show that we are not confusing correlation with causation.
Ziztur 10 months ago
@drchristoaa Even distilling water does not remove all impurities. These metal particles could have been easily present in the starting water. We don't know, because the paper's authors do not say which brand of homeopathic remedy they purchased, only that they purchased them from a store. Once again, the presence of metal particles in a homeopathic remedy does not demonstrate that homeopathy is effective.
Ziztur 10 months ago
@Ziztur IIT scientists are not fools i guess...they have ruled out all the other possibilities and finally they came to a conclussion.
drchristoaa 10 months ago
@drchristoaa Have you read the paper? I just did. Smart people can do bad research. If they ruled out these possibilities, then why did they not mention it? They stated that they could not get the remedies directly from the company and so purchased them from the market. What are the chances that they are privy to the manufacturing methods? My guess is that the manufacturing methods introduce impurities such as trace metals found in most water sources.
Ziztur 10 months ago
@Ziztur Dear, theyhave done duble blind test and no chance of mistake in it. They have studied for 4 years before publishing it.
drchristoaa 10 months ago
@drchristoaa You didn't read the study if you think it was a double blind test. It wasn't. There was no blinding or double blinding whatsoever. They also made no comparisons to control solutions. I know this, because I have the study right here in front of me. Here is a citation to it so you can find it: Chikramane PS, Suresh AK, Bellare JR, Kane SG. Extreme homeopathic dilutions retain starting materials: A nanoparticulate perspective. Homeopathy. 2010 Oct;99(4):231-42.
Ziztur 10 months ago
the researchers received confirmation of the existence of nanoparticles at two different homeopathic high potencies (30C and 200C) and because they tested four different medicines (Zincum met./zinc; Aurum met. /gold; Stannum met./tin; and Cuprum met./copper), the researchers concluded that this study provides “concrete evidence.”
drchristoaa 10 months ago
@drchristoaa Great! Citation needed please! Also, perhaps there are particles, but do they have an observable effect on disease states? Did they test this on distilled water? Were the experimenters blinded? I need a citation of this study. Some studies are great, and others are poor. I can't accept this "concrete evidence" without reading the methods.
Ziztur 10 months ago
New research conducted at the respected Indian Institutes of Technology has confirmed the presence of “nanoparticles” of the starting materials even at extremely high dilutions of homeopathic medicines. Researchers have demonstrated by Transmission Electron Microscopy (TEM), electron diffraction and chemical analysis by Inductively Coupled Plasma-Atomic Emission Spectroscopy (ICP-AES), the presence of physical entities in these extreme dilutions.
drchristoaa 10 months ago
smoke cigarettes,eat mcdonalds,get a flu shot everyday they won't hurt you aswell
yeah10000000000000 10 months ago
Keep up the good work, Ziztur. Don't let the pro-Homeopathy crowd get you down. They're envious of medical science the way all magic believing types are envious of science in general.
Homeopathy sycophants, post your verifiable, peer-reviewed evidence of your claims, or shut up, dry up and blow away already.
wstevenschneider 11 months ago
Just out of curiosity, did you sleep well that night XD?
OhhhMyAxels 11 months ago
Hi Ziztur! Can you please reupload this video with lesser fabric and more skin?
I know all about the Homeopathy lie but know nothing about what your B88bs look like.
azzy314159 11 months ago
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Probably better than the movie is gonna be! check this in webmovietube
glenniesamoyoa26 11 months ago
Who is this twerp!!! Same as the other twerps Randi et al
sheradized 11 months ago
I was distracted with your beauty. Keep up the great video. Marry me or I will take 10 bottles of Sleep Aid. Also, I am a bit lactose intolerant, so if I do not die from overdose, I get gas.
Topazman12 11 months ago
IT'S A TRAP!
RainbowShitter 11 months ago
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Madam, try homeopathic medicine KALI CYNATUM 1X,4 TABLETS for sucide ok, bite and break the tongue and allow the medicine to mix with your blood , it acts fast...
HOMEOPATHY WORKS AND IS THE MOST ADVANCED SCIENCE OF HEALING.SCIENCE HAS PROVED IT RECENTLY, GOOGLE SEARCH-IIT BOMBAY HOMEOPATHY
jamesbondking 11 months ago
@jamesbondking Right, so you're telling me that I should take some cyanide, dilute ("success") it to a 1:10 ratio, drip said "medicine" on some tablets and then mix said tablets with an open wound in my mouth. Clearly you think this is very clever, but your suggestion can hardly be called "homeopathy" as you are betraying the very principals you are trying to advocate. You must have SOME understanding of the dose-response effect to understand why cyanide tablets will kill people.
Ziztur 11 months ago 2
@Ziztur friend, the homeopathic diltuion starts from 1X to CM potency, and the main drug proving was done in 1x potency of the drugs, and the same drug in higher potency is found to cure the conditon caused,Hence the pills which you took does have only curative action for those who suffer from sleeplessness and shoud be taken in reccomented dosage to heal.
so if you want to see action of dilutions of 30c, then in healthy state take homeopathic medicine GLONOINE 30C,5 pills 2 hourly for 4 days.
jamesbondking 11 months ago
@Ziztur You dont understand ABC....Of Homeopathy, with 0 Understanding of homeopathy how foolish are you to test homeopathic medicine. Read understand experience and then respond
HOMEOPATHY WORKS AND IS THE MOST ADVANCED SCIENCE OF HEALING
jamesbondking 11 months ago
@jamesbondking What part of homeopathy do I not understand? Good double blind placebo controlled studies conclude with fair certainty that homeopathy is no more effective than a placebo. I think my references and explanation in the "more info" section will indicate that I understand it just fine. Since you appear incapable of backing up your assertions with evidence but very capable of committing ad hominem fallacies (repeatedly), I will maintain my position that you have no evidence to give.
Ziztur 11 months ago
@jamesbondking you're a twat and just confirmed it to the world.
MusicStudyMan 11 months ago
Thank you for eating that bottle of sugar for us. I wouldn't waste my blood sugar spike on it. It amazes me how many people know more about pseudoscience than real science. I wonder what would happen if you contacted poison control about it, they would probably laugh.
mts198 1 year ago
if i spit in a lake, and the water is processed and packaged into drinking water... then all u suckaz are drinking my concentrated saliva!!!
hehe so much succusion in the process too =)
homeopathy fails.
xtam092 1 year ago
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I love this video , oh and I have something to ask you can I send you a message i want to c this movie in webmovietube
divinagoettel22 1 year ago
ziztur has got what she wants.Attention.Uploading a video and talking about a subject she doesn't understand,while wearing a short skirt,dropping the pills so the camera can show her legs.Shes nuts,but shes got 17000 views.wow!
manish567100 1 year ago
@manish567100 Aww, The only argument you can muster is an ad hominem. Cute.
Ziztur 1 year ago 6
@Ziztur did you learn a new word, troll?
Seigu007 3 months ago
Wondering about all these uninformed comments providing misinformation? See the web site of extraordinary medicine org.
den151redbank 1 year ago
This is how a remedy is distinguished from distilled water: check for the dielectric constant! A bottle of remedy can be easily distinguished from 99 control bottles of distilled water!
Thanks for coming! Bless!
den151redbank 1 year ago
@den151redbank Citation needed.
Ziztur 1 year ago 2
@den151redbank Can you please shut up, nobody cares what you have to say and neither does Ziztur.
imyourfuturewife 11 months ago
Mythbusters needs to get on Homeo.
blva888 1 year ago 5
Ok if Homeopathy works. then you should be able to take a substance that cases XYZ symptoms in some one put a small amount of it in 10 parts of water and do that several times and a person with the XYZ symptoms that comes into the office take that pill and they will be fine.
If that is the case one could do that to vodka, beer, whiskey, etc take a pill and be sober again.
blva888 1 year ago
@blva888
dear friend, the action of medicne and vodka is totally different, first study how human body functions, then study homeopathy , then experience homeopathy...do you know the fact that how much amount of hormone is needed to make some changes in our body functions?
jamesbondking 1 year ago
@jamesbondking well right it is different. If abc substance causes xyz symptoms you then you take a small part of abc and put it in a "jar" shake, take small part of that and repeat to get the medicine. Isn't that how it works?
blva888 1 year ago
@blva888 high concentration of drug in body increases the present symptoms of the patient, so our founder started diluting so that the disease symptoms do not increase on taking the drug, and he found out that only a small amount of medicine is needed to make a cure or to stimulate the recovary process in our body.
jamesbondking 1 year ago
@jamesbondking diluting xyz makes a small about of xyz present. Diluting even more makes it just about non existent or no traces what so ever. the more diluting something is the less of it or none of it there is. But then again WTF do I care if you or any one spends there money on this crap. I would love to see a chemical analysis of diluting something 10X
blva888 1 year ago
@blva888
My dear soul,
Everyone who has taken a first-year course in chemistry knows that something cannot become nothing.
A chemical analysis? You're way behind the times. That's Newtonian. This is the 21st century, and we're using quantum physics. Guess you didn't know that photoelectric cells are used to measure the intensity and wave length of substances in homeopathics.
You're wondering how a remedy can be distinguished from distilled water?
den151redbank 1 year ago
@den151redbank I think I know which study you're talking about, and it wasn't even blinded. Jeez. If you don't blind your study, you're going to see what you want to see.
Ziztur 1 year ago
@den151redbank
This statement just shows how dumb you really are. wow go back to school
mts198 1 year ago
@den151redbank
Quantum physics is not used to test the content of water, nor does it have anything to do with chemistry. Also, your magical water vibrations of the 15 dimension are complete nonsense. A recent test done on homeopathic mega water showed that other then the smallest of molecules, so small it couldn't be identified, it is exactly like distilled water.
Agiinor 11 months ago
Real is scientific homeopathy. It cures even when Conventional Allopathic Medicine (CAM) fails. Evidence-based modern homeopathy is a nano-medicine bringing big results for everyone
DrNancyMalik 1 year ago
@DrNancyMalik Uh. In the earlier days it was quantum based, now it's nano based. Whatever the current buzzwords are, right? So, why are there no RIGOROUS studies that prove homeopathy works? With rigorous I mean randomized double blind studies.
lagerbaer 1 year ago
Homeopathic pills containing naturally occurring metals such as gold, copper and iron retain their potency even when diluted to a nanometre or one-billionth of a metre, states the IIT-Bombay research published in the latest issue of 'Homeopathy', a peer-reviewed journal from reputed medical publishing firm Elsevier
Homeopathy is the most advanced science of theraputics.. science has proved it....
jamesbondking 1 year ago
@jamesbondking
The water that those metals were diluted in have touched many other substances over the course of the earth's history billions of years before homeopathy was invented. You are a fucking idiot.
sellingmypokecards 1 year ago
@sellingmypokecards, my dear friend, first study what is homeopathy, experiences how it cures the disease, you know, my grandfather was diagnosed to have oesophagal carcinoma , and your modern medicine doctors(experts from USA) told that there is no scope and he will die with in 23 days, but with homeopathic treatment since 4 years he is doing good, and he is taking just homeopathic medicines....now he can swallow food, still the modern medicine doctor phone him, and they are surprised,it works
jamesbondking 1 year ago
@jamesbondking
You expect me to take that seriously?
sellingmypokecards 1 year ago
@sellingmypokecards , i just told the reason why i belive in homeopathy, and this experience happened to one wh om i liked the most, homeopathy saved him....homeopathy works... you too try ,experience it then, if u failed to recover then critizice it.....
jamesbondking 1 year ago
@jamesbondking
Correlation =/= causation. Why don't you understand that basic fact?
sellingmypokecards 1 year ago
@sellingmypokecards
it is experience....and myself and my family,realtives all take just homeopathic medicnes since many years, and we are untouched by chemical drugs since last 10 years,
Science was not advanced to prove how homeopathy works, but now science has done it with the help of nano science.
eg:since many years earth was rotating around sun, also earth rotated it self, and hence we could experience day and night, but the true fact why day and night comes was proved just recently.
jamesbondking 1 year ago
@jamesbondking No, science hasn't proved that homeopathy magically works because of nano science. What a dubious journal article claims to have shown is that the dilution isn't as good as people claim it is, which is to be expected when contaminated tools are used.
lagerbaer 1 year ago 2
@lagerbaer ,dont make unnecessery hyothetical arguments, evey test in IIT is done very sincerly and truthfully.
jamesbondking 1 year ago
James Randy can suck my dick. Whatever works for u, bottomline is to be healthy. If u get healthy by eating grass. Eat it. It doesn't matter whether its, allo, homo, or any other pathy. Allopathy is usually fast acting and can cure diseases in a technological trashy world of today. Homeopathy is slow acting but cures the disease once and for all. So, every medicine has its own Pros and Cons. Enjoy life, don't judge, as we all r dumb you tubers, not MD's.
saurav686 1 year ago
u r quite sexy.. x
MrBWtv 1 year ago
In homepathy it's said that you shouldn't touch the pills, you just put them under your tongue from the container. Also, it's not the amount of pills what's important but the frequency that the pills are taken. Try taking the same remedy, 3 pills under the tongue every 5 minutes (let them dissolve under your tongue) and see if you can tell any difference in 1 hour +/-.
fkoff99 1 year ago
@fkoff99 What is the mechanism by which homeopathy's effects are neutralized because you touched the pills?
Other people have done such an experiment, and I might do it too, though it seems kind of pointless - I imagine the homeopathy believers will simply say that I faked it, or that I altered the pills, or some other such nonsense.
Ziztur 1 year ago 3
@Ziztur I'm just telling you what homeopaths say. If it's nonsense or not I don't know. I'm just giving you the information for you to do the "experiment" in a right way when you take a homeopathic remedy. I didn't leave you the comment to contrast personal opinions or judge the efficacy of homeopathy, just telling you the way in how homeopathic remedies are taken, that's it.
fkoff99 1 year ago
@fkoff99 Sorry about that, your intentions in leaving your comment were not clear to me.
My question was one of consideration, like, "huh, homeopaths say that but now that I think of it.. why would that matter?"
Ziztur 1 year ago 2
@Ziztur It would matter in your credibility in front of homepaths and people that support homeopathy and are watching the video. It would give you more credibility if you do it the right way (under the homeopathic point of view). You know what I mean? If you are doing an experiment about the efficacy or inefficacy of a remedy, follow the guidelines that are related to that therapy. Even if you agree or not, but It would give you more coherence, objectivity formality in the experiment.
fkoff99 1 year ago
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phanisundarssimages 1 year ago
@phanisundarssimages So who is this magic man? You're so full of shit it's sad.
BlaineDeschain 1 year ago
@phanisundarssimages I am sorry, who was this scientist again?
saurav686 1 year ago
But see you drank water, and that negated the effects of the homeopathic stuff. because you know that water probably went through a swamp at some point, picking up all kinds of other stuff. Bird poop, horse manure, etc. Yum! ;-)
terriergal 1 year ago
Why should we not try this at home? And why on earth should it be obvious?
rgainsburg 1 year ago
I saw an article where a guy fell into a vat of DHM (di-hydrogen monoxide), the main constituent of homeopathic medicines. He died, due to inhalation of the DHM, thus proving the potency and danger of it.
So I say stay away from homeopathic medicine as it is really dangerous.
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
Ziztur,
I'm not going to waste my time talking with closed-minded individuals who have personal agendas such as yourself.
den151redbank 1 year ago
@den151redbank Really? You've been "wasting your time" with me for over a year! I don't get how you can claim several times that you're not going to be wasting your time here, yet you keep coming back. It's just another way for you to be dismissive of evidence and throw yet another ad hominem my way.
Ziztur 1 year ago 15
@den151redbank LOL that's funny.
terriergal 1 year ago
@den151redbank Well maybe you are just a moron. See some people actually use there brains and care what reality is. You clearly don't.
Why dont you try and think critically.
thesparitan 1 year ago
@thesparitan
Even if you had a case--which you don't--ad hominem attacks don't advance it.
den151redbank 1 year ago
@den151redbank Look up the definition of ad hominem fallacy. I didnt say because you are thick as pig shit what you say about homeopathy is wrong, I said you are thick as a concrete slab because you believe in this snake oil homeopath horseshit peddling scam. See a fallacy is only created when one attacks the person and then claims this is an attack on the claim. That was not an ad hominem because merely calling someone a name is not a fallacy, especially when its true.
Look it up
thesparitan 1 year ago
Anyone with a true interest in studies evidencing for homeopathy will find many of them at the web site for the National Center for Homeopathy.
There are 100's proving h'pathy works and a hand full not proving it works. Here's just one. It proves that h'pathy ameliorates the negative effects of conventional cancer treatment: Kassab, et. al., 2009.
This post is for readers with an interest in and who want to use a truly curative system of medicine.
den151redbank 1 year ago
@den151redbank I just read that study. It more or less says that reviews on studies of homeopathy for cancer were studied, and half of those studies showed a negative effect, half showed a positive effect. Only one of them was a high quality study. If you were looking at a medicine in which half the studies showed a positive effect and half showed a negative, effect (taking into account that positive studies are more likely to be published) would you say that medicine was amazingly effective?
Ziztur 1 year ago
@den151redbank In fact, the study itself says, "There is no convincing evidence for the efficacy of other homeopathic medicines for adverse symptoms and skin reactions" and, "Further RCTs of homeopathic medicines for adverse symptoms
and skin reactions related to radiotherapy are needed to confirm
the results described in this review." So your amazing evidence is one review in which one single remedy showed promise, but is uncomplicated in further studies. That is not impressive.
Ziztur 1 year ago
@den151redbank Also, here is an actual citation of your study:
Kassab S, Cummings M, Berkovitz S, van Haselen R, Fisher P. Homeopathic medicines for adverse effects of cancer treatments. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2009, Issue 2
It's not difficult to cite studies properly.
Ziztur 1 year ago
@den151redbank I also picked up and read the one positive study, which was not double blinded nor placebo controlled. This kind of study would never pass muster in what you dub "western" medicine. This kind of study would not pass FDA approval. I would not, therefore, trust it over medicine shown effective by more robust means.
Ziztur 1 year ago
@Ziztur Here is the citation for your one positive study, which actually appears to not even be a study on homeopathy. How did it even get into this review?:
P. Pommier, F. Gomez, M.P. Sunyach, A. D'Hombres, C. Carrie, X. Montbarbon Phase III Randomized Trial of Calendula Officinalis Compared With Trolamine for the Prevention of Acute Dermatitis During Irradiation for Breast Cancer Journal of Clinical Oncology, Vol 22, No 8 (April 15), 2004: pp. 1447-1453
Ziztur 1 year ago
@den151redbank
Homeopathy is water. Or sugar. It DOES NOT WORK.
DraconisRex 1 year ago
@shashimohansharma Yup. Screw empirical evidence. Science sure is stupid.
Ziztur 1 year ago
@shashimohansharma You're a moron.
plevyman 1 year ago
Wut? How can You read my response in favour of H?
lakrisdotcom 1 year ago
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lakrisdotcom 1 year ago
What I wonder is... when any substance is diluted to such an extent, and they make pills (or solutions, etc) isn't it very likely that, since the likelihood of the "active" substance occuring in the final product is very close to (almost certainly) zero, and considering the vast number of different molecules that exist, that any other molecule from any other "valid" remedy is present, or have been present during the succussing (?) either from water, chalk, lactose extract, or whatever, ,
lakrisdotcom 1 year ago
By the same logic, if you drank rain water, it should give you super-powers.
Good show!
frosted1030 1 year ago
suicide by homeopathic sleeping pills lol, funny stuff
turboclaps 1 year ago
@dramafreeek She never said that the "medicine" didnt work. She simply explained what homeopathic medications are-SHIT
smileyg333 1 year ago
Your video doesn't prove at all that Calms Forte doesn't work. Drinking 10 packs of herbal tea won't kill me either. So what? This doesn't mean it can't help me relax via its natural properties. You need to critically assess your assumptions before posting a video that, ultimately, results in nothing but a non sequitur. Poor skeptics. Always sacrificing logic for the sake of their petty skepticism.
dramafreeek 1 year ago
@dramafreeek I never said that it proved anything. I trust empirical science, and I don't think that's petty. I made no assumptions. I read research articles and made this video for fun, but also to give links to said research.
You're making a strawman argument.
Ziztur 1 year ago
I wonder if your salivary amylase could denature the active ingredients.
Do it again without chewing.
kittycatbrat84 1 year ago
Of course, there is no statistical significance in a non-double-blinded, one person study such as this, but nice video, especially the smoke effects.
For your personal safety, you should have had some passion flower to hand, because you would be counteracting to potency of the homeopathetic sugar pills by increasing the concentration of 'active' ingredient solute in your body. Possibly a passionfruit yoghurt might also have worked.
Viewers should of course only take FDA approved medication.
DissorderedArray 1 year ago
i heard she died shortly after this video was recorded
viperdude281 1 year ago
@viperdude281 Give me a break. i'm perfectly alive, thanks.
Ziztur 1 year ago
Does she doing a scientific trial?
TheNossnoj 1 year ago
I couldn't even continue to watch the rest of this video. You have absolutely no idea on how homeopathy works. Here's the deal, the oh so lovely FDA, mandates the remedies, and as such they apply the same principle to OTC meds as they do the homeopathy remedies, which is why there is a warning. The succussion method you mentioned (shaking the remedy) has to do only when you dilute the pill in water, and THEN you are to shake it. Please do not get on here talking about something you do not
LifeWithFullHands 1 year ago
@LifeWithFullHands The FDA does not regulate homeopathy.
I took a college course in homeopathy. You might consider doing the same - there are even free courses you can take online.
You don't shake a diluted pill. You success a quantity of "remedy" to dilute it. Once diluted to a certain power designated by a homeopath, the solution is dripped onto pills. It is dripped onto pills because pills are more convenient and easier to administer.
Ziztur 1 year ago
So scientific trial!
TheNossnoj 1 year ago
Some people seem not have access to internet. On internet you can search for research in homeopathy in for example medical journals. Or see all those homeopathic hospitals in UK, USA, EU. To be sceptic and critical does not means it is more scientific. Her trial is not scientific, it is not repeated during different times during a longer period. Allopathic painkiller is not always working and all cancer patient is not saved by chemotheraphy either.
TheNossnoj 1 year ago
@TheNossnoj Look at the research I posed in the description of the video.
Yes, there are hospitals in the UK and USA. Hospitals also once widely used bloodletting. This is an argumentum ad populum.
Ziztur 1 year ago
Hot how she pull out her tounge with the white creamy substance on it...
KimbalayaMilan 1 year ago
If a child took a half a dose..... that would be twice as strong as the adult dose, according to the basic principles of homeopathy. What a crock of shit it is, it is sad to think we live in a society where people are walking around among us believing shit like this. But then again, Tom Cruise is a Scientologist... go figure. Michael Savage wrote "The Complete Guide to Homeopathy"...... what a loon.
sparky7718 1 year ago 6
@sparky7718 Michael savage actually wrote a book like that LOL, wow I didnt know he was that crazy and thats saying something
thesparitan 1 year ago
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newrosenewman 1 year ago
well there goes my motervation sleeping pills have got to be the most painless way to die i have found a site that you can get them without perscription and ive been thinking maybe when im board from now on i might just take a pill or two btw im not suicidal it does cross my mind though
harriotdennis86 1 year ago
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Like the video.
I caught a relative (an incurable rube), buying a traditional Chinese herbal remedy a couple of years ago. When I pointed out the ingredients contained monkey semen she went bananas (lawl), and refused to take any more.
Moral of the story : most people are idiots and will take medicines without even reading the ingredients.
kcgeil 1 year ago
I caught a relative (an incurable rube), buying a traditional Chinese herbal remedy a couple of years ago. When I pointed out the ingredients contained monkey semen she went bananas (lawl), and refused to take any more.
Moral of the story : most people are idiots and will take medicines without even reading the ingredients.
kcgeil 1 year ago
Calms Forte is a combination remedy and people are being misdirected by being told to swallow them with water. The people who manufacture them are ripping people off. I am surprised they work at all and my advice is to avoid them. Go see a reputable homeopath if you have trouble sleeping. These pills and other combination remedies are against the essential principles of homeopathy.
alldown2me 1 year ago
Whether you take one pill or a hundred at a time, it is still only one dose. The manufacturers encourage you to take two or three pills so you will use up the product more quickly. You should place the pill under your tongue and let it dissolve. Do not take them like ordinary pills and swallow with water. If you really want to test homeopathy, take one pill a day over a couple of weeks or so. You will start to develop symptoms that are particular to the remedy you are taking.
alldown2me 1 year ago
@alldown2me Just flat-out wrong. If there's anything chemically active in there, chewing the pills up and swallowing them should produce near-instantaneous effects. There isn't, so voila - Ziztur or anybody else could slug them down by the handful and be just fine.
Compare - if Ziztur had chewed up and swallowed a big handful of Xanax, for example, she'd have had a very quiet second half of the video, and then died.
phlorky 1 year ago
@phlorky I think you misunderstand the nature of homeopathic remedies. Most people criticize on the basis that there is no identifiable substance left at the end of remedy preparation....there is no chemical content. Remedies work in a way that we are not able to understand, but if you are prepared to try them according to the directions laid down by Hahnemann then they will have an effect.
alldown2me 1 year ago
@alldown2me why would we not be able to understand homeopathic remedies? what is there possibly to understand that is not fathomable? why would you trust your health to something you don't or can't understand? sounds like you're well under the influence of the placebo effect.
imgdumpprep 1 year ago
@alldown2me How can I "misunderstand" them if the remedies "work in a way that we are not able to understand"?
Ziztur 1 year ago 3
@Ziztur bingo! LOL
I think I'm going to become a homeopathic surgeon. I mean, if less is more effective, then my surgical procedures will be absolutely AWESOME when I simply stay home and play video games instead of going to the hospital and cutting on someone! I'm gonna be RICH!
roentgen571 1 year ago
@Ziztur Whenever someone says something the likes of "work in a way that we are not able to understand"? you have to know bullshit is coming your way, if you don't understand the field you are practicing, specially if its something that people's well being depends on, you should probably be arrested. Good job on swallowing the pills, did it give you diarrhea?, the sugary ones are a good laxative.
ScepticEye 1 year ago
@ScepticEye
Like aspirin? No one knew how that worked until a few years ago. How many doctors were arrested for telling their patients to "take two aspirins and call me in the morning"?
den151redbank 1 year ago
@den151redbank "No one knew how that worked until a few years ago" - citation needed.
Ziztur 1 year ago
@ScepticEye
The peer-review British Medical Journal states that of 2,500 commonly prescribed conventional treatments only 11% --- yes, 11% --- have been proven to be beneficial. The other 89% have either: - not been proven to do anything
- are proven to be purely harmful or
- are proven to be a toss-up between harm and benefit
Shouldn't all the doctors who prescribe these treatments every day be arrested?
den151redbank 1 year ago
@den151redbank Citation needed. Give a real one, this one is too vague.
Ziztur 1 year ago
@Ziztur I mean that there is no chemical content in the pills.
alldown2me 1 year ago
@alldown2me Except that they don't have an effect beyond the placebo effect.
Ziztur 1 year ago
Actually, I criticize homeopathic remedies because they have not been proven to be effective beyond the placebo effect.
Ziztur 1 year ago
@phlorky If you take Belladonna in its natural form it will kill you. If you take it in homeopathic form....one pill a day to dissolve under the tongue then you will eventually develop symptoms that are similar to being poisoned by Belladonna. The thing is, people who are anti homeopathy will not try this simple test. You should avoid coffee and strong perfumes when carrying out this test as they act as an antidote to any remedy.
alldown2me 1 year ago
@alldown2me Why would a perfume have an antidotal effect? I don't drink coffee and I don't wear perfume.
People who are anti-homeopathy HAVE tried your simple test.
Ziztur