Well this is in 2006, although even at that time Chuck, Randy, Tito and others were making alot of money...Dont go by fight purses, thats a small amount to what some of these guys get paid...Chucks last 4 fights=17 mill...Randys last 4=12 mill..Brocks last 2=5.4 mill..GSP's last fight=2.6 mill...Andersons last fight=2.0 mill....Sorry Frank, Be happy Strikeforce paid you 300k to only sell 10,000 seats in your home town...you were great back in the day though..
Looks like Frank is going to need a job now. The UFC pays better than any MMA organization out there. What the heck are you guys taliking about. I bet you would fight for the UFC if you had the choice. Most of you hate the UFC because your jealous.
If these people, the fighters don't get paid enough, or the people making money off their bodies and well being are paid way more disproportionately, then it's EXPLOITATION. Everyone should stand behind the fighters, they are the money makers and the owners are the parasites. These guys' are at risk with their health.
@boatstaylor Yes many people didn't C these fights because they were when the ufc got kicked off ppv & b4 zuffa got the ufc I wish frank won't have retired all thoses yrs. ago. He was @ his prime but I understand Y he did.
Well Franky, i don't think Dana White really cares if you ever fight again or not. And for Dana to step into the ring, why would he. He makes a hell of alot more money then most the fighters do most likely. I actually hate Dana White, and agree the UFC fighters should be paid a little more, if they can pull in tens of millions on a pay per view, they can pay the stars of the show a bit more. But i dont think too many people are dying to see Frank Shamrock fight.
no matter what anybody says, these fighters that work for the ufc that get 5 or 10k a fight are getting fucked....I'm sure the supplements they take cost more than that. But until all the fighters get together and form a union or something, like the NBA or NFL, shit almost every sport...they will most definitely continue to take it up the ass while dana white laughs about it in his mansion drinking champagne.
yeah tottaly agree they risk they life in there their health their future...
and some get only like 5000 dollars a fight i mean common , that hardly covers the training costs and what if the fighter got badly injured? what will u do with 5k?
Shit i love UFC but if they go on like this they r going to self destruct...
I mean they v got a name thats hard to get sticking to it is the only way to succed in future ....fighters leave their lives for ufc and thats how they get paid back shitttt
@oldschoolrock4evr wat do u think boxers starting out get? everybody talking about the ufc but they would give u 5000 to fight and 5000 win bonus, and a extra 5000 wit a good finish. not to mention of the night bonus. thhe average person lives off of 30,000, 2 good fights and u made average. mma puts ur career in ur hands so if u want big money go get some wins. look at some payouts they get a lot of money and more sponsors
@oldschoolrock4evr besides that look wat strikeforce pay ppl. look up strikeforce carano vs cyborg payouts, they gave mousasi 2,000. maybe a lil more under the table. find me one person that made less then 5,000 to lose in the ufc. unlike other sports its easy to get in boxing or mma but if u want big money u gotta do work. in basketball and football the process is hell to get in, so only the strong make it, its 100s of mma fighters that made it and aint good
Stop whining, people in law enforcement/military risk their lives for much less. Boohoo I can't make millions right off the bat, boohoo cry me a river.
Dana is that dude!!...But he should pay the fighters better..there is such abig gap in pay between what chuck and gsp make as opposed to leben or koscheck..The sport itself is not agood money making sport for the avg ultimate fighter..
100,000 for 3yrs..Thats abt 33 per year a percentage goes to managers and gyms..thats like working as a secretary..
I agree. GSP should be paid more too. Boxers still making like 50 times more than the best guys in UFC. Doesn't make sense. All the under cards should be paid more too. Like some gets paid only a few thousand. You can make more at MacDonald than that.
True true...Mayb the ufc has better benefits or something that make up for the lack of pay..becuz they do do a good job of keeping fighters from ending up like ali..ofcousre we wont be able to tell until mayb like 30years from now if they develop cognitive problems
Frank Shamrock no longer fights in the UFC because the sport has passed him by. What I'm saying is that he's a has been, just like his brother. Get out of the sport before you embarrass yourselves too much boys.
How's this for a UFC fight. Lesnar v. both of you ignorant assholes?
Of course White wouldn't fight Franks manager, that would take actual courage,and who needs that when you can talk shit about some of the best fighters in the world and post videos of yourself lifting weights on the internet?
I wonder who hates Dana White more, Frank Shamrock, Ken Shamrock, Tito Ortiz, or Pat Miletich? The UFC is a great success but man has Dana made some high profile enemies!
he challenged Tito to a boxing match since he's a former pro. I dunno if he really is as bad as his enemies say since Randy Couture i remember saying in a press conference that Dana and Zuffa have done a lot for the sport, but he just couldn't work with them because his position and their's wouldn't work basically.
i agree the ufc does take advantage over fighters if ur in the ufc and suck u can make around 3-4k (reasonable since u suck) but if ur really good you can make around 900k but thats nothing compared to boxing fighters, good boxing fighters can make up to around 25-50M
Better fighters, yes. As for Dana White, he's a bitch. Just compare the payrolls of UFC fighters versus the payrolls of boxers. And if anybody speaks up asking for more money, they get crushed eg. Randy Couture, Tito Ortiz, and Frank Shamrock.
dana white is just a buisness man he could do things better and he does suck but he runs the buissness the best just as good as monte cox and better than anybody at proelite and better than tom atencio(though he is a nicer guy)
main point is, if frank shamrock can outstrike the best striker at middleweight in phil baroni, he would make a chump out of anderson silva. being shamrock is the submission caliber of nogueira or fedor, he would bone george st. pierre at his game. all pierre can do to win is hold you down, gnp you or submit you, and frank shamrock would guillotine or put a triangle choke on gsp so fast it would look like grease lightening. him out striking baroni was as classic as fedor outstriking cro cop.
it's just that frank has an uncanny way at beating you in every facet of mma. he has beaten the best and i don't ever see him losing. he outstruck the striker against baroni who hits like a ton of bricks, and on the ground, whether off his back or in full mount he will submit you. if pierre bulked up to middleweight frank would make him look like he never trained, he would do the same to anderson silva. look how he embarassed such a feared striker in baroni. frank is superior in every facet.
frank shamrock, at his weight class, is emelianenko fedor. example, kevin jackson put him on his back and frank had him tapping to a triangle choke arm bar, he slammed igor zinoviev out like he was a little tart, he completely jacked up tito ortiz, he came back from a defeated situation to defeat jeremy horn by heel hook, and he buttered baroni's ass outboxing him and choking him out. shamrock is as dominant a middleweight as fedor is heavyweight. shamrock would kill anderson silva.
dana probably doesnt even know the video exists, he couldnt care less what frank has to say, why would he want frank to fight, nobody cares, and he wouldnt get anywhere close to a title shot in the ufc. thats why, ufc fighters are the best. id love to see rich franklin put him down, or michael bisping, or even chris leben could do it.
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frank shamrock claims to be a businessman, this fighter is a complete joke. no-one respects him in the business and he recently accused a large majority of fighters of using steroids....your not in the ufc because your not good for the sport dick. heres hoping cung le breaks ur other arm next time
I wonder why so many fighters share this view of the UFC and dana: Emilianenko, Couture, Ortiz and shamrock and even Tim sylvia. What if all these fighters Got their resources together and formed an MMA league?
UFC does pay good, if dana likes you..theres just so many skilled fighters in the ufc that dana cant afford to pay. but the payscale is unfair though..for ex how does chuck liddell make 500k in fight and randy cant even top 250k. how does brock lesnar make 250k in his first fight ( including another 200k if he won). its b.s how dana pays people, but because ufc has a bigger audience and they bring the money that comes along..ufc fightesr are stuck where there at.
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I smell another Yuki Kondo pf 96'...
Shamrock is delusional in his old age, If Kondo can KO frank so bad that he flies through the ropes and out the ring!... Then Cung will damage Frank permanently.
strong words but he has the point, maybe thats why he and fedor are not in the UFC right now, fighters should be paid according to their TRUE VALUE, lesnar who is new and has 1-1 record is paid MUCH than NOGUEIRA and MIR
i recently heard a conversation on wccc by (ceo) of mohecen sun casino,where they have the ufc.
talking about the pay scall being so low that the fighters cant even pay for their hospital bills. dana's taking all the money. it isn't right!!! the fighters are the show.
They hate each other...and with good reason. Dana White robs the fighters. But Dana should bite the bullet and get Frank back in UFC--fans wanna see what he has left.
just fight in the ufc,show your skills then change the world once your respected more,i just made an ass of myself telling someone it was legal shit stopping you from fighting not this bullshit,be a man or lose a good fan of many years
Yes,he is Latin, he was born in Santa Monica, and was adopted by Mr. Shamrock, and as well Ken Shamrock's last name is not Shamrock either. They were raised in a boys town inder the care of there adopted father.
no....unfortunately not...it makes me lose alot of respect for him everythime he challenges dana white....truth is, frank just cant hang with the young UFC fighters anymore and wants to keep his record....
Frank Juarez is great fighter, but, to destroy anyone in the UFC is a strong statement and has no validity other than your perception. You sound like a 14 year old kid, now go to your room !
Funny, but I would ask for Rampage or someone who can draw people. Chuck is on his way out, and can't even beat losers from reality shows. Dana White is a fucken fag, and he wouldn't even have the balls to consider a fight. He tried to fake a fight with Ortiz to draw attention to himself, but ended up looking like an even bigger fag then he is. Hopefully no more great fighters will turn to the ufc brand.
He's right, Boxer's get paid millions, even if they lose, while fighters in the UFC get paid very little. Randy Couture got paid only $250K to fight Sylvia. PayPerView paid Randy more than the UFC did.
um... St. Pierre tore Matt apart in every aspect of the game. Matt did try to stand for a little bit, like always, and like always went for the shot after getting hit hard once. St. Pierre threw him off like a LITTLE GIRL and once Matt realized he couldnt get the takedown he strait choked. He lost cuz hes bunk.
Now there are exceptions where some fighters can't defeat others either due to lack of skill, lack of will or whatever. Ken Shamrock will never beat Ortiz. Why? I am assuming he has lost his skill. Shamrock just isn't aggressive as he once was and has seem to have lost the thirst and hunger of domination.
Anderson Silva... omg, the most overused name in MMA. Shall I dare say... "overrated?"
Anyone can lose in MMA, it isn't like any other sport where one great player can lead a team due to sport rules and protocol. But, this is fighting, if you think your opponent is throwing a kick to your chest and you block it, but BOOM his foot lands upside your head, you made a boo-boo and lost the fight. Shit happens, everyone can lose to another fighter, it all depends on their match-level and game plan.
Evidence? Cro Cop VS Gonzaga, Hughes VS St. Pierre. Cro Cop is a way better fighter than Gonzaga, but he lost due to a misjudgment. Hughes is on another level than St. Pierre, but he lost due to strategy. He tried to stand with GSP, when he knows he is a total badass at ground and pound. If Hughes stuck with what he was best with, he would not have lost. He dominates at GnP.
I have to disagree. Crocop did not fight well that night against Gonzaga. But ultimatley, Gonzaga's ground game is better than Crocops. Crocop is not a way better fighter, or else he would have won. Misjudging, poor strategy is all part of the fight game and are elements into what make one fighter better than the other. Thats what I think.
but also in the hughes vs. st.pierre fight, hughes had one or two takedown attempts and he couldn't do it. St.Pierre is a better wrestler i think. In his most recent fight against koscheck, he beat koscheck at his own game, wrestling. So I think St.Pierre is all around better.
I agree.. St. Pierre is the FUTURE of MMA and ufc...he fucked Hughes up period.. go back and watch the first fight...he was owning Hughes even then until he tapped..w/ 1 sec left!!! In the rematch he tore hughes apart..Same w/ Koscheck, he's a 4 time D1 wrestling champ...GSP over powered him at his own game.
Lol Yeahh anderson who hass walked through the UFCs Middleweight divison, the only one who had a chance was henderson and we all saw what happened to henderson....
Fedor fought for bodog??? cause it was a better pay day...anyone who develops a name in the UFC will eventually get their own promoter and try and do what Frank, R. Gracie and Fedor are doing...making cash for themselves, not an organization. If Dana doiesn't back down from the hostile attitude about it, we may as well call him Dana King, or Don White, cause the sport IS MMA, not the UFC
Fedor fought for bodog??? cause it was a better pay day...anyone who develops a name in the UFC will eventually get their own promoter and try and do what Frank, R. Gracie and Fedor are doing...making cash for themselves, not an organization. If Dana doiesn't back down from the hostile attitude about it, we may as well call him Dana King, or Don White, cause the sport IS MMA, not the UFC
I dislike Frank SHAMErock. thing is, he makes some good points. lower tier fighters don't earn nearly enough of the purse. that's what ruined boxing and will trouble UFC in the future if it already hasn't.
boooo...nobody wants you in the fucking ufc anyways you weenie ass faggot! your a has been buddy, plus it's all about ko's and not submission. u wanna play that game go start your own camp with the gracie fuckers...you all suck!
theUFAman: There's a reason the sport is called mixed martial arts. Watching a fight that is all stand-up is boring. A good mix of both stand-up and ground game makes for an exciting fight. Those people who don't appreciate the ground game find it boring because they don't understand what they're watching. You seem to be one of those people. It's not all about KOs. Otherwise, you'd be better off watching K1 or boxing.
wow you can call frank "shamrock" a fag and say frank slamcock over a comp but if you did it to his face you woulg get knocked the fuck out! haha your fucking pathetic!
Seriously if anyone really thnks he can compete in the UFC right now THE YEAR IS 2007..... no ones talkkin about the damn past.... the guy will really get stomped out by most of the UFC compteition...most of the better welterweights will even smash him in the ufc
Only making mixed martial arts well known. Trying to make people understand that these people aren't just goons fighting, they are actually professional athletes. Dana white has been busting his ass the past 6 years trying to make this sport what it is today. Have some fucking respect.
second ufc is nr. 1 right now cause pride was bought
but ufc is horrible specially the rules.
pride was far better on the quality of every fight
i know a pride fighters will dominated your shitty ufc champion
is u who know nothing. i have see both leagues and ufc is HORRIBLE..and Boooooring. but u lame ass stupid piece of shit, redneck, fan of bush and ufc, please pick a hammer and smash it into your head
Okay, I could not understand one thing you said. If you can't speak english, get the fuck out gook. I am not American by the way, so I am not a bush fan, if that's what you meant.
lol dude... all your tryin to do is get into the UFC .. you know you would suk Danas balls if he gave you a UFC contract.. nobody wants to see you fight bru.. so put on your daisy dukes and light up your cigar...and you know what to do with tha cigar...... talkin bout Liddell... who are you tryin to fool.. who are you to be fighting Liddell, yourr sorry ass aint in that level.. who ar you tryin to fool man
i dont believe that i mean why not have the best fighters in the ufc like dana white is doing. its not bad for the sport for shitt its actually becoming mainstream so if frank shamrock just doesnt believe in that then hes ganna stay a little poorer than the ufc middleweights screw u shamrock peace
If you don't understand what Frank is saying you know nothing about MMA. UFC treats it's fighters like slaves. Silva made 50 grand for beating Franklin, who recieved 21 for getting pummeled. For a main event fighter in a sport that outsells boxing, that is chump change. Most of these guys have to work day jobs while Dana White and the UFC pocket tens of millions.
haha. How about you fight Dana White? That would probably be a more "suitable" opponent for you. Keep the trend going. You talked such a big game after the Baroni fight, which is humorous considering you haven't fought a world ranked opponent in years. Who's your next opponent, a kid in a wheelchair? Get over youself, your a joke.
Come on Guys....do some research...Frank is the best fighter alive right now...over all...pound for pound.. he is the man....he is an all around fighting machine!!!
What did frank do in that fight? The knees from the BOTTOM was all he did. Renzo took Frank down at WILL and passed his guard AT WILL. Frank just plain sux.
what the fuck? renzo cried like a fucking baby and didnt want to continue the fight so frank lost by DQ, so fuck you stupid gracie lover, frank is the anti submission man if you didnt know
You are a moron. If something is illegal, and intentional then Frank was just cheating. Renzo got really sick from being hit in the neck on the spine. If it was going to be a no holds barred fight, the Gracie's have been doing that for 80 years. Renzo can cheat too, but he has too much honor and SKILL to sink to Frank's pathetic level.
oh god.. stop it damn gracie lover, 1- renzo was scared all the fight. 2- renzo did nothing just hugging frank, 3- frank was kneeing as mad renzo and probably could have break his ribs. 4-frank is the anti-jiujitsu man. 5- renzo did cry and when he knew he could win by DQ he took it. SAD.
I like Frank alot, but 'anti jiu-jitsu'?, Frank uses BJJ techniques all the time! As Bas Rutten said, "This is MMA, saying your anti jiu-jitsu, is like going to a gun fight and saying your anti bullets" The shit dosent add up!
Frank is just trying to generate attention and capitalize on the fact that MMA is finally getting mainstream coverage. He wants to make a couple more strings of money before he calls it a day as a fighter.
Frank needs to STFU and just fight, Kinda like the real greatest fighter on the planet does Fedor. Everytime you hear from Frank he's either bitching or m aking ridculous demands, FRANK STFU AND FIGHT!!!!
all this bollocks ufc is the biggest organization in the world ! he should swallow is words and fight the best prove himself! mma has changed since he was in the ufc bigtime!
Frank thinks he's God's gift to MMA. He think's Dana would be so desperate to get him in the UFC that he would agree to another ridculous fight like the boxing match w/ Tito. The UFC is full of big stars now and Frank would just be a face in the crowd. If he fought in the UFC again he'd be exposed. Let's see if he does any better against Baroni than he did against Renzo (who he looked horrible against).
fuck frank chuck wanderlei or rampage would beat his ass i wish he would just shut the fuck up and relize that nobody gives a fuck about him and he will be forgotten by mainstream mma fans soon or already
i wouldnt put it past Dana, i mean, we all saw he was prepared and ready to fight Tito, and god knows this chump scott koker is no Tito Ortiz. but bottom line, yeah probably wont ever happen just because dana is to smart to take part in frank's dumb shit
idiot.......
bizabx 1 week ago
Well this is in 2006, although even at that time Chuck, Randy, Tito and others were making alot of money...Dont go by fight purses, thats a small amount to what some of these guys get paid...Chucks last 4 fights=17 mill...Randys last 4=12 mill..Brocks last 2=5.4 mill..GSP's last fight=2.6 mill...Andersons last fight=2.0 mill....Sorry Frank, Be happy Strikeforce paid you 300k to only sell 10,000 seats in your home town...you were great back in the day though..
cujo905 6 months ago 2
SCAMROCK
TheEots 7 months ago
frank sorry mate but your a cock head. DANA = MMA
gpkeleaki 8 months ago
wow some harsh words
1billion1deaths1 8 months ago
Its funny how he's under Dana White now................ I wonder how that conversation will be when Zuffa Fires his ass...
ITheJmanI 9 months ago
Looks like Frank is going to need a job now. The UFC pays better than any MMA organization out there. What the heck are you guys taliking about. I bet you would fight for the UFC if you had the choice. Most of you hate the UFC because your jealous.
speezguy 10 months ago
@speezguy really? because some fighters get paid $10,000 in the ufc to get their face disformed..
Alcaponage1 6 months ago
If these people, the fighters don't get paid enough, or the people making money off their bodies and well being are paid way more disproportionately, then it's EXPLOITATION. Everyone should stand behind the fighters, they are the money makers and the owners are the parasites. These guys' are at risk with their health.
booboonation 1 year ago
Frank Shamrock was unbeatable in the UFC! He was a GOD of MMA in the 90's! His legacy will live on forever. Anderson Silva has nothing on him.
boatstaylor 1 year ago
@boatstaylor Yes many people didn't C these fights because they were when the ufc got kicked off ppv & b4 zuffa got the ufc I wish frank won't have retired all thoses yrs. ago. He was @ his prime but I understand Y he did.
LegendoftheAce 1 year ago
@boatstaylor MMA is betar today .....
bizabx 1 week ago
Well Franky, i don't think Dana White really cares if you ever fight again or not. And for Dana to step into the ring, why would he. He makes a hell of alot more money then most the fighters do most likely. I actually hate Dana White, and agree the UFC fighters should be paid a little more, if they can pull in tens of millions on a pay per view, they can pay the stars of the show a bit more. But i dont think too many people are dying to see Frank Shamrock fight.
afghi420 1 year ago
no matter what anybody says, these fighters that work for the ufc that get 5 or 10k a fight are getting fucked....I'm sure the supplements they take cost more than that. But until all the fighters get together and form a union or something, like the NBA or NFL, shit almost every sport...they will most definitely continue to take it up the ass while dana white laughs about it in his mansion drinking champagne.
bukofezra 1 year ago
hahha frank always deliver!
Huy805 1 year ago
scott would get ktfo
borass69ass 1 year ago
llllllllloooooooooooollllllllll that was the funniest shit
mj19580 1 year ago
dana may be a prick but he's taken ufc to where it is now
ShockTherapist007 1 year ago 3
ufc is the best but they need to pay fighters more god dam
vicgarcia30 1 year ago
yeah tottaly agree they risk they life in there their health their future...
and some get only like 5000 dollars a fight i mean common , that hardly covers the training costs and what if the fighter got badly injured? what will u do with 5k?
Shit i love UFC but if they go on like this they r going to self destruct...
I mean they v got a name thats hard to get sticking to it is the only way to succed in future ....fighters leave their lives for ufc and thats how they get paid back shitttt
oldschoolrock4evr 1 year ago
@oldschoolrock4evr wat do u think boxers starting out get? everybody talking about the ufc but they would give u 5000 to fight and 5000 win bonus, and a extra 5000 wit a good finish. not to mention of the night bonus. thhe average person lives off of 30,000, 2 good fights and u made average. mma puts ur career in ur hands so if u want big money go get some wins. look at some payouts they get a lot of money and more sponsors
KingDre88 1 year ago
@oldschoolrock4evr besides that look wat strikeforce pay ppl. look up strikeforce carano vs cyborg payouts, they gave mousasi 2,000. maybe a lil more under the table. find me one person that made less then 5,000 to lose in the ufc. unlike other sports its easy to get in boxing or mma but if u want big money u gotta do work. in basketball and football the process is hell to get in, so only the strong make it, its 100s of mma fighters that made it and aint good
KingDre88 1 year ago
@oldschoolrock4evr
Stop whining, people in law enforcement/military risk their lives for much less. Boohoo I can't make millions right off the bat, boohoo cry me a river.
Warpath2198 1 year ago
Frank Shamrock is one bad ass dude, he's the man!
MusartJD 1 year ago 3
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now thats what u call a complete douchebag!!!! hima and ken should go wrestle in traffic!!!!!!
6kevtherev9 2 years ago
kinda like how u got beat up by nick?
GyancarloP 2 years ago
look up the zuffa contract. The UFC tried for years to get frank shamrock! Also, how the hell is he not in the ufc hall of fame??
sweddd1234 2 years ago 3
i guess cause they dont like him and tito
matrixlone 2 years ago
because he doesnt want to be in it. he hates dana white.
JJ68Czechmate 1 year ago
Dana is that dude!!...But he should pay the fighters better..there is such abig gap in pay between what chuck and gsp make as opposed to leben or koscheck..The sport itself is not agood money making sport for the avg ultimate fighter..
100,000 for 3yrs..Thats abt 33 per year a percentage goes to managers and gyms..thats like working as a secretary..
depeau44 2 years ago
I agree. GSP should be paid more too. Boxers still making like 50 times more than the best guys in UFC. Doesn't make sense. All the under cards should be paid more too. Like some gets paid only a few thousand. You can make more at MacDonald than that.
youbooyou 2 years ago
True true...Mayb the ufc has better benefits or something that make up for the lack of pay..becuz they do do a good job of keeping fighters from ending up like ali..ofcousre we wont be able to tell until mayb like 30years from now if they develop cognitive problems
depeau44 2 years ago
Frank Shamrock no longer fights in the UFC because the sport has passed him by. What I'm saying is that he's a has been, just like his brother. Get out of the sport before you embarrass yourselves too much boys.
How's this for a UFC fight. Lesnar v. both of you ignorant assholes?
kfloberetta 2 years ago
Fuck brock Shane carwin would fuck that bitch up
shredkill 2 years ago
Lesnar is shit.
Fedor will be owning the UFC soon.
tobywushu 2 years ago
Of course White wouldn't fight Franks manager, that would take actual courage,and who needs that when you can talk shit about some of the best fighters in the world and post videos of yourself lifting weights on the internet?
eltubster14 2 years ago 2
I wonder who hates Dana White more, Frank Shamrock, Ken Shamrock, Tito Ortiz, or Pat Miletich? The UFC is a great success but man has Dana made some high profile enemies!
abdiver12 3 years ago 3
LOL hell yea he has...
googlelizer 2 years ago
Lmao, Frank should teach Dana a lesson by beating his ass into shape.
NoUsername150 3 years ago 2
haha I can't imagine Dana fighting, I think this is a ridiculous proposition!
berad777 3 years ago 2
he challenged Tito to a boxing match since he's a former pro. I dunno if he really is as bad as his enemies say since Randy Couture i remember saying in a press conference that Dana and Zuffa have done a lot for the sport, but he just couldn't work with them because his position and their's wouldn't work basically.
1Jack1Attack1Man1 2 years ago
i agree the ufc does take advantage over fighters if ur in the ufc and suck u can make around 3-4k (reasonable since u suck) but if ur really good you can make around 900k but thats nothing compared to boxing fighters, good boxing fighters can make up to around 25-50M
PROgamer125 3 years ago
someone want to chat
ANY GUYS UP? 7d
ForBlueBlueSkiies 3 years ago
fuk id love to see frank vs chuck i like them both but id have to go with frank
TheDicamillo 3 years ago
Mary Van Note? Man I love her!
mCmadley 3 years ago
ha ha ha ha
adisaboston 3 years ago
ufc rips off their new fighters. Shamrock is a warrior.
TheDentist27 3 years ago 13
He is right there, UFC are treating their fighers like Roman gladiators. The UFC is worth more than $1bn, now and only few fighters are better off
jukcoder 3 years ago
i like Frank's attitudes!
zung01 3 years ago
havent seen frankie fight in a while how is he doing lately?
FlatFoot13 3 years ago
this is stupid!
otin311sheen 3 years ago
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what a faggot, the UFC is better than any shit promotion frank shamcock supports.
my god look at all the long ass typed shit, looks like the faggot PRIDE fans have arrived
cenahater5001 3 years ago
Better fighters, yes. As for Dana White, he's a bitch. Just compare the payrolls of UFC fighters versus the payrolls of boxers. And if anybody speaks up asking for more money, they get crushed eg. Randy Couture, Tito Ortiz, and Frank Shamrock.
ohhaibai 3 years ago
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no one gives a shit about frank, hes buttsore the ufc dont want him.
Skr3wdriv3r 3 years ago
dana white is just a buisness man he could do things better and he does suck but he runs the buissness the best just as good as monte cox and better than anybody at proelite and better than tom atencio(though he is a nicer guy)
madrockbannanas 3 years ago
Frank, i have new respect for you for standing up,
stillonparolee 3 years ago
Dana = dick head :)
Ruttenpapa 3 years ago
main point is, if frank shamrock can outstrike the best striker at middleweight in phil baroni, he would make a chump out of anderson silva. being shamrock is the submission caliber of nogueira or fedor, he would bone george st. pierre at his game. all pierre can do to win is hold you down, gnp you or submit you, and frank shamrock would guillotine or put a triangle choke on gsp so fast it would look like grease lightening. him out striking baroni was as classic as fedor outstriking cro cop.
odogcainemenace 3 years ago
WOW! What? Baroni is the best striker? Hardest hitter does not mean best striker.
kurtvon 3 years ago
it's just that frank has an uncanny way at beating you in every facet of mma. he has beaten the best and i don't ever see him losing. he outstruck the striker against baroni who hits like a ton of bricks, and on the ground, whether off his back or in full mount he will submit you. if pierre bulked up to middleweight frank would make him look like he never trained, he would do the same to anderson silva. look how he embarassed such a feared striker in baroni. frank is superior in every facet.
odogcainemenace 3 years ago
frank shamrock, at his weight class, is emelianenko fedor. example, kevin jackson put him on his back and frank had him tapping to a triangle choke arm bar, he slammed igor zinoviev out like he was a little tart, he completely jacked up tito ortiz, he came back from a defeated situation to defeat jeremy horn by heel hook, and he buttered baroni's ass outboxing him and choking him out. shamrock is as dominant a middleweight as fedor is heavyweight. shamrock would kill anderson silva.
odogcainemenace 3 years ago
little frankie is the shit but the ufc is good
zboy419 3 years ago
dana probably doesnt even know the video exists, he couldnt care less what frank has to say, why would he want frank to fight, nobody cares, and he wouldnt get anywhere close to a title shot in the ufc. thats why, ufc fighters are the best. id love to see rich franklin put him down, or michael bisping, or even chris leben could do it.
jmedmon 3 years ago
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frank shamrock claims to be a businessman, this fighter is a complete joke. no-one respects him in the business and he recently accused a large majority of fighters of using steroids....your not in the ufc because your not good for the sport dick. heres hoping cung le breaks ur other arm next time
colindutchgold 3 years ago
Uncle Fester haha.
cabbycabbycabby 3 years ago 2
I wonder why so many fighters share this view of the UFC and dana: Emilianenko, Couture, Ortiz and shamrock and even Tim sylvia. What if all these fighters Got their resources together and formed an MMA league?
1Mrflawless 3 years ago 3
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shut the fuck up frank
gocowboys703 3 years ago
UFC does pay good, if dana likes you..theres just so many skilled fighters in the ufc that dana cant afford to pay. but the payscale is unfair though..for ex how does chuck liddell make 500k in fight and randy cant even top 250k. how does brock lesnar make 250k in his first fight ( including another 200k if he won). its b.s how dana pays people, but because ufc has a bigger audience and they bring the money that comes along..ufc fightesr are stuck where there at.
joshkwong 3 years ago
ha funny shit. the man has a point, white def puts a lot more cash into his pockets than then of his fighters. look at titos interviews.
mpwrestling 3 years ago
and does anyone knw if dana responded to this?
MTLsoldier 3 years ago
lmao i love frank shamrock. he is so fkn funny.
MTLsoldier 3 years ago 2
LOL....Uncle Fester. YOu are a funny man Frank
NeoGeo46 3 years ago 2
OK so what does the UFC fighters make? how is he bad for the sport?
questsurfer 3 years ago
depends..if dana likes you..you can make over half of million..ex chuck lidell..or 3k..ex some unknown fighter
joshkwong 3 years ago
Frank Juarez - word of advice, do not ever
under estimate your opponent!!! Great lesson
learned last Saturday, huh !
LexAustin 3 years ago
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I smell another Yuki Kondo pf 96'...
Shamrock is delusional in his old age, If Kondo can KO frank so bad that he flies through the ropes and out the ring!... Then Cung will damage Frank permanently.
HitoriHonzo 3 years ago
Uncle Fester lol...that was fucking hillarious. Quinton Jackson and Frank Shamrock should battle it out for who has better comedic timing
STEALTH872003 3 years ago
Well said.
Frank is da man.
Amokbite 3 years ago
Fighters should get paid more....Especially in UFC.
amato2 3 years ago 17
strong words but he has the point, maybe thats why he and fedor are not in the UFC right now, fighters should be paid according to their TRUE VALUE, lesnar who is new and has 1-1 record is paid MUCH than NOGUEIRA and MIR
snakerattle79 3 years ago
i recently heard a conversation on wccc by (ceo) of mohecen sun casino,where they have the ufc.
talking about the pay scall being so low that the fighters cant even pay for their hospital bills. dana's taking all the money. it isn't right!!! the fighters are the show.
wailiquan 3 years ago
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fuck frank shamrock he is a fucking faget ufc kicks ass and dana white is sweet!!!!!
rampagerules34 4 years ago
They hate each other...and with good reason. Dana White robs the fighters. But Dana should bite the bullet and get Frank back in UFC--fans wanna see what he has left.
torr5962 4 years ago 2
hes real name is frank juarez...
and he is the best mma fighter that ever stepped in the cage
end of story
justgotpaidpop 4 years ago 4
just fight in the ufc,show your skills then change the world once your respected more,i just made an ass of myself telling someone it was legal shit stopping you from fighting not this bullshit,be a man or lose a good fan of many years
zzmannnn 4 years ago
Frank Juarez is his real name. He is the ultimate hypeman, on the level of "Flava Flav." Frank Juarez you silly guy !
jazwelter 4 years ago
u mean He's mexican???
pamirec 4 years ago
Yes,he is Latin, he was born in Santa Monica, and was adopted by Mr. Shamrock, and as well Ken Shamrock's last name is not Shamrock either. They were raised in a boys town inder the care of there adopted father.
jazwelter 4 years ago
I love shamrock, but that sounds dumb, is he joking?
GypsyKatcher24 4 years ago
no....unfortunately not...it makes me lose alot of respect for him everythime he challenges dana white....truth is, frank just cant hang with the young UFC fighters anymore and wants to keep his record....
DaCootMan 4 years ago
you just dont have what it takes to be a top fighter in the ufc or mma. thats why you arent going to fight in the ufc.
Pitch4D4 4 years ago
are you fucking kidding or just a moron? he would destroy anyone the UFC would put in front of him. From the TUF fags all the way up to the champion.
cfx5000 4 years ago 2
Frank Juarez is great fighter, but, to destroy anyone in the UFC is a strong statement and has no validity other than your perception. You sound like a 14 year old kid, now go to your room !
jazwelter 4 years ago
Don't hold your breath Frank.
On second thought, hold your breath. Save us all from your misery.
You're such the bitch in these videos. What's your malfunction?
w0rn 4 years ago
Lol.
They make alot more than you fucks know.
If the fighters weren't happy with it, they would never sign the contract.
PandaPooh 4 years ago
Funny, but I would ask for Rampage or someone who can draw people. Chuck is on his way out, and can't even beat losers from reality shows. Dana White is a fucken fag, and he wouldn't even have the balls to consider a fight. He tried to fake a fight with Ortiz to draw attention to himself, but ended up looking like an even bigger fag then he is. Hopefully no more great fighters will turn to the ufc brand.
dallassuckscock 4 years ago
CUNG LE insults FRANK SHAMROCK in the face!!!...here in YOUTUBE
santinorasheed 4 years ago
He's right, Boxer's get paid millions, even if they lose, while fighters in the UFC get paid very little. Randy Couture got paid only $250K to fight Sylvia. PayPerView paid Randy more than the UFC did.
GamerGuy87 4 years ago
Even though I hate this guy... He's right!
mjnmjd 4 years ago
LOL
solidyahoo 4 years ago
um... St. Pierre tore Matt apart in every aspect of the game. Matt did try to stand for a little bit, like always, and like always went for the shot after getting hit hard once. St. Pierre threw him off like a LITTLE GIRL and once Matt realized he couldnt get the takedown he strait choked. He lost cuz hes bunk.
dustinliska 4 years ago 2
Now there are exceptions where some fighters can't defeat others either due to lack of skill, lack of will or whatever. Ken Shamrock will never beat Ortiz. Why? I am assuming he has lost his skill. Shamrock just isn't aggressive as he once was and has seem to have lost the thirst and hunger of domination.
visvolt 4 years ago
Anderson Silva... omg, the most overused name in MMA. Shall I dare say... "overrated?"
Anyone can lose in MMA, it isn't like any other sport where one great player can lead a team due to sport rules and protocol. But, this is fighting, if you think your opponent is throwing a kick to your chest and you block it, but BOOM his foot lands upside your head, you made a boo-boo and lost the fight. Shit happens, everyone can lose to another fighter, it all depends on their match-level and game plan.
visvolt 4 years ago 3
Evidence? Cro Cop VS Gonzaga, Hughes VS St. Pierre. Cro Cop is a way better fighter than Gonzaga, but he lost due to a misjudgment. Hughes is on another level than St. Pierre, but he lost due to strategy. He tried to stand with GSP, when he knows he is a total badass at ground and pound. If Hughes stuck with what he was best with, he would not have lost. He dominates at GnP.
visvolt 4 years ago
I have to disagree. Crocop did not fight well that night against Gonzaga. But ultimatley, Gonzaga's ground game is better than Crocops. Crocop is not a way better fighter, or else he would have won. Misjudging, poor strategy is all part of the fight game and are elements into what make one fighter better than the other. Thats what I think.
TomPKan 4 years ago
but also in the hughes vs. st.pierre fight, hughes had one or two takedown attempts and he couldn't do it. St.Pierre is a better wrestler i think. In his most recent fight against koscheck, he beat koscheck at his own game, wrestling. So I think St.Pierre is all around better.
TomPKan 4 years ago
I agree.. St. Pierre is the FUTURE of MMA and ufc...he fucked Hughes up period.. go back and watch the first fight...he was owning Hughes even then until he tapped..w/ 1 sec left!!! In the rematch he tore hughes apart..Same w/ Koscheck, he's a 4 time D1 wrestling champ...GSP over powered him at his own game.
JayCei23 4 years ago
Frank is cool.
And to everyone saying Frank couldn't win/make it past the first round against a certain fighter... you know nothing of MMA.
visvolt 4 years ago
put him up against anderson silva and see how long he lasts
SASCartman 4 years ago
He'd win.
lLoseGuitarPicks 3 years ago
Lol Yeahh anderson who hass walked through the UFCs Middleweight divison, the only one who had a chance was henderson and we all saw what happened to henderson....
SASCartman 3 years ago
Don't talk shit frank made tito cry beat him like a bitch.
lasog341 4 years ago
Frank Shamrock is a Lengend
hitman69 4 years ago
Fedor fought for bodog??? cause it was a better pay day...anyone who develops a name in the UFC will eventually get their own promoter and try and do what Frank, R. Gracie and Fedor are doing...making cash for themselves, not an organization. If Dana doiesn't back down from the hostile attitude about it, we may as well call him Dana King, or Don White, cause the sport IS MMA, not the UFC
lordbreakdown 4 years ago
Fedor fought for bodog??? cause it was a better pay day...anyone who develops a name in the UFC will eventually get their own promoter and try and do what Frank, R. Gracie and Fedor are doing...making cash for themselves, not an organization. If Dana doiesn't back down from the hostile attitude about it, we may as well call him Dana King, or Don White, cause the sport IS MMA, not the UFC
lordbreakdown 4 years ago
I dislike Frank SHAMErock. thing is, he makes some good points. lower tier fighters don't earn nearly enough of the purse. that's what ruined boxing and will trouble UFC in the future if it already hasn't.
lordbreakdown 4 years ago
Don't worry Frank, it's not a big deal. You wouldn't be able to make it past the first round with Anderson Silva any way.
bigbusiness 4 years ago
sorry for robing bigbusiness's point i dident see that he put that but he is completly right
SASCartman 4 years ago
Are you serious? Challenging an old man to a fight? Was there no little girls available? I got a challenge for you, be a man.
MultipleScrotum 4 years ago
boooo...nobody wants you in the fucking ufc anyways you weenie ass faggot! your a has been buddy, plus it's all about ko's and not submission. u wanna play that game go start your own camp with the gracie fuckers...you all suck!
theUFAman 4 years ago
theUFAman: There's a reason the sport is called mixed martial arts. Watching a fight that is all stand-up is boring. A good mix of both stand-up and ground game makes for an exciting fight. Those people who don't appreciate the ground game find it boring because they don't understand what they're watching. You seem to be one of those people. It's not all about KOs. Otherwise, you'd be better off watching K1 or boxing.
teufelhunden70 4 years ago
frank shamrock is the best
jdiver7 4 years ago
wow you can call frank "shamrock" a fag and say frank slamcock over a comp but if you did it to his face you woulg get knocked the fuck out! haha your fucking pathetic!
LMFAO
EmoDani817 4 years ago
yyyyyyeaaaaaaahhhhhhh...frank slam cock is a tool...he used to be good, but he doesn't fight anyone worth a damn anymore...try rampage pal.
sleazebee 4 years ago
Seriously if anyone really thnks he can compete in the UFC right now THE YEAR IS 2007..... no ones talkkin about the damn past.... the guy will really get stomped out by most of the UFC compteition...most of the better welterweights will even smash him in the ufc
xYEREVANx 4 years ago
ur a fucking idiot
jmeyerhead 4 years ago
Frank Shamrock is a fucking idiot.
Dana white is bad?
Only making mixed martial arts well known. Trying to make people understand that these people aren't just goons fighting, they are actually professional athletes. Dana white has been busting his ass the past 6 years trying to make this sport what it is today. Have some fucking respect.
PandaPooh 4 years ago
Dana White is worse than Don King. The fighters in the ring are the ones busting there ass, not the business raking in the cash.
LSDetroit 4 years ago
dana white is a fucking moron
he is not trying to make understadnd people the sport
he is trying to win money.
If u mean what the sport is today.. pride being buyed and destroyed yes is a shame what happend to mma.
cuase now there are only and only ufc rules which happend to suck. it is a monopoly. dana white is a fucking LAMER
rounderst 4 years ago
Go back to grade three and learn some grammar. Also, if UFC sucks, then why is it #1 right now?
Please stfu, you know nothing.
PandaPooh 4 years ago
lol stupid piece of shit pandapooh
english is not my fisrt languague
second ufc is nr. 1 right now cause pride was bought
but ufc is horrible specially the rules.
pride was far better on the quality of every fight
i know a pride fighters will dominated your shitty ufc champion
is u who know nothing. i have see both leagues and ufc is HORRIBLE..and Boooooring. but u lame ass stupid piece of shit, redneck, fan of bush and ufc, please pick a hammer and smash it into your head
rounderst 4 years ago
Okay, I could not understand one thing you said. If you can't speak english, get the fuck out gook. I am not American by the way, so I am not a bush fan, if that's what you meant.
PandaPooh 4 years ago
I am an American, and many Americans are not Bush fans.
daven1381 4 years ago
lol dude... all your tryin to do is get into the UFC .. you know you would suk Danas balls if he gave you a UFC contract.. nobody wants to see you fight bru.. so put on your daisy dukes and light up your cigar...and you know what to do with tha cigar...... talkin bout Liddell... who are you tryin to fool.. who are you to be fighting Liddell, yourr sorry ass aint in that level.. who ar you tryin to fool man
xYEREVANx 4 years ago
God, what a n00b. Frank is already a UFC legend.
LSDetroit 4 years ago
REALLLYYY... DAMNNNNN... I DIDNT KNOW..... lol cmon MAN IV BEEN INVOLVED IN MMA WHILE YOU WERE STILL SUCKIN ON A NIP
xYEREVANx 4 years ago
how can anyone here say frank cant fight in the ufc watch some highlights u fucking douchebags
jmeyerhead 4 years ago
frank just to scared to scared to fight in the ufc because he knows he'll get his ass kicked
maniacoffroader 4 years ago
No body made less than 10K in Elite XC, shamrock won 1.3 millon, and all other fighters got between 100K and 10K.
Baroni got 75K for letting frank use his head as a punchbag.
nativechayanne 4 years ago
lol dana would get his assed whooped!!!
adamshodan 4 years ago
i dont believe that i mean why not have the best fighters in the ufc like dana white is doing. its not bad for the sport for shitt its actually becoming mainstream so if frank shamrock just doesnt believe in that then hes ganna stay a little poorer than the ufc middleweights screw u shamrock peace
rickdawg56 4 years ago
If you don't understand what Frank is saying you know nothing about MMA. UFC treats it's fighters like slaves. Silva made 50 grand for beating Franklin, who recieved 21 for getting pummeled. For a main event fighter in a sport that outsells boxing, that is chump change. Most of these guys have to work day jobs while Dana White and the UFC pocket tens of millions.
LSDetroit 4 years ago
BLAF is white trash.
okicat1 4 years ago
haha. How about you fight Dana White? That would probably be a more "suitable" opponent for you. Keep the trend going. You talked such a big game after the Baroni fight, which is humorous considering you haven't fought a world ranked opponent in years. Who's your next opponent, a kid in a wheelchair? Get over youself, your a joke.
OutlawtorN369 4 years ago
War Frank!!!!!!!!
Titus0011 4 years ago
best fighter is fedor hands down no question yo monkeys
tffdwg38 4 years ago
Come on Guys....do some research...Frank is the best fighter alive right now...over all...pound for pound.. he is the man....he is an all around fighting machine!!!
rjcashley 4 years ago
frank is gonna kill bafony. but talking like this sure isn't gonna get him back into the ufc.
dubc44444 4 years ago
Remember how Frank was totally owned by Renzo? Frank did NOTHING the whole fight.
srw15 4 years ago
Ur fuckin stupid, he wasnt owned at all, Renzo wasnt doin shit, he jus stayed on top and won by DQ like a lil pussy
chiefhandsome2008 4 years ago
What did frank do in that fight? The knees from the BOTTOM was all he did. Renzo took Frank down at WILL and passed his guard AT WILL. Frank just plain sux.
srw15 4 years ago
what the fuck? renzo cried like a fucking baby and didnt want to continue the fight so frank lost by DQ, so fuck you stupid gracie lover, frank is the anti submission man if you didnt know
lionking15 4 years ago
You are a moron. If something is illegal, and intentional then Frank was just cheating. Renzo got really sick from being hit in the neck on the spine. If it was going to be a no holds barred fight, the Gracie's have been doing that for 80 years. Renzo can cheat too, but he has too much honor and SKILL to sink to Frank's pathetic level.
srw15 4 years ago
oh god.. stop it damn gracie lover, 1- renzo was scared all the fight. 2- renzo did nothing just hugging frank, 3- frank was kneeing as mad renzo and probably could have break his ribs. 4-frank is the anti-jiujitsu man. 5- renzo did cry and when he knew he could win by DQ he took it. SAD.
lionking15 4 years ago
I like Frank alot, but 'anti jiu-jitsu'?, Frank uses BJJ techniques all the time! As Bas Rutten said, "This is MMA, saying your anti jiu-jitsu, is like going to a gun fight and saying your anti bullets" The shit dosent add up!
zedrein18 4 years ago
well, i think i wasnt talking to you, was i?
lionking15 4 years ago
Nope, just letting everyone here see how much of an ignorant schlub you are!
zedrein18 4 years ago
wow im so ignorant, good, now go outside of home and make some friends.
lionking15 4 years ago
No.
zedrein18 4 years ago
Frank is just trying to generate attention and capitalize on the fact that MMA is finally getting mainstream coverage. He wants to make a couple more strings of money before he calls it a day as a fighter.
DizzyDice777 4 years ago
Dana is a P R I C K. Frank is good, but an egomaniac
griffinslates 4 years ago
Frank needs to STFU and just fight, Kinda like the real greatest fighter on the planet does Fedor. Everytime you hear from Frank he's either bitching or m aking ridculous demands, FRANK STFU AND FIGHT!!!!
Sureshot82 4 years ago
amen
m1k3yc1n1 4 years ago
all this bollocks ufc is the biggest organization in the world ! he should swallow is words and fight the best prove himself! mma has changed since he was in the ufc bigtime!
calzage26 4 years ago
I am 100% sure that Frank will definitely kick Baronis ass on they match on June 22.
RESPECT on Frank!!!!
DavidDorozsmai 4 years ago
well he can talk it up like that cause he is a really good fighter unlike most of u bums posting negative shit bout him
manhunter94 4 years ago
Frank thinks he's God's gift to MMA. He think's Dana would be so desperate to get him in the UFC that he would agree to another ridculous fight like the boxing match w/ Tito. The UFC is full of big stars now and Frank would just be a face in the crowd. If he fought in the UFC again he'd be exposed. Let's see if he does any better against Baroni than he did against Renzo (who he looked horrible against).
MacgyverMMA 4 years ago
does any1 know the reasons why they dont get on? please reply.
karawilson1984 4 years ago
fuck frank chuck wanderlei or rampage would beat his ass i wish he would just shut the fuck up and relize that nobody gives a fuck about him and he will be forgotten by mainstream mma fans soon or already
spanishfly640 4 years ago
Frank Shamrock talk too much. Two fights since 2003- one of them he was getting owned (Renzo) and finally was DQ. Not that impressed.
arizonacat 4 years ago
Dana doesn't like Frank either and doesn't need him.
Frank is no longer a draw due to inactivity. Frank needs Dana but Dana won't pay him......ever.
Frank is on Youtube and Dana's practice sparring sessions are on Spike TV and his play shows are prime time
Frank is owned by Dana
nysurfsf 4 years ago
Dana is an a**hole. It's always f*uckin' this and f*ckin that. I would love to see him get knocked out.
cormicar 4 years ago
i wouldnt put it past Dana, i mean, we all saw he was prepared and ready to fight Tito, and god knows this chump scott koker is no Tito Ortiz. but bottom line, yeah probably wont ever happen just because dana is to smart to take part in frank's dumb shit
MCjaspers 4 years ago
"Uncle Fester" now that's funny! That challenge will never happen.
PepWan 4 years ago
Frank Shamrock is a fuckin fag I hope Baroni knocks his has been ass out, his own brother Ken thinks he's a fag (frank was Adopted).
TapURassout 4 years ago
so was ken dumbshit lol
garurific 4 years ago
Badass and cool!
WhatsaSpeedLimit 4 years ago
haha
Jeroin 4 years ago