Sorry, NO SALE. There are over 20 Million Unemployed legal, legitimate US citizens looking for work. Why aren't the policy makers (both private & public) not offering re-settlement packages for the MILLIONS OF LAID OFF WORKERS in other states to re-locate to Arizona and fill the vacated jobs? Seriously.
@mjcamck: That would be nice, but the problem is, the elite in this country have a divide-and-conquer agenda in mind. They want to keep screwing over American workers, and they will do things such as destroying the unions to do so, and they are trying to place all the blame for our unemployment woes on people from other countries who just wanted a better life here. This is happening in several European countries, too, including Britain.
I'm Black American and I'm against all illegal immigrants.Legal immigrants and illegal immigrants from all Spanish speaking countries must be stopped,it's too many of these parasitic people over populating this country.
@xxmkerror Many of these "legal" immigrants you defend are the main ones burning American flags,placing their Spanish homeland flag above the USA flag,and show no loyalty to the U.S.,that's treason. Allowing someone to enter your country illegally,give birth then their baby is automatically a citizen,is appalling.There is also the huge issue with over population,over crowding of schools,traffic jams,all caused by legal and illegal immigrants.Get educated;become a real American like me
@WestcoastMusicals I'm not american and if a real american thinks like that i don't want to be one. You should learn that a flag is just a flag, sure your Forefathers sacrificed their lives for it, but not for a flag more for the Concept of a free america. The USA is the so called "Land of the Free" immigrants build this country, everyone should have the right to live his life to the fullest. You have so much why not share it, with people who have less. They just want to live
@WestcoastMusicals over population,over crowding of schools,traffic jams aren't caused by immigrants, its just the result of poor management.
"Allowing someone to enter your country illegally,give birth then their baby is automatically a citizen,is appalling" i don't know, but ask the indians how they think about that
They just want to live they don't hurt anybody, let them pay taxes and they will. And if they hurt anybody than sure send them back
@xxmkerror@xxmkerror This has nothing to do with Indians stop dwelling in the past,history is history.There was no constitution,no government,no laws when the indians ruled America.God planned for Caucasians to discover this land to advance the world.Over population,over crowding and traffic jams are a direct effect of legal and illegal immigrants.Immigrants increase the population more than double that of regular citizens.
@WestcoastMusicals So the indians lived without any laws and without goverment, you must have been a good history student, thats just ridiculous do some research try google or wikipedia and search for tribal chief, educate yourself befor you say bullsh*t like that. You shouldn't be allowed to teach other people, if you are that uninformed.
@xxmkerror The indians had no constitution,the killed anyone who was not of their tribe,and collected the skulls.They were always at war with other tribes,it was basically uncivilized,until the great white man came to this land and changed the world for the better.God knew the opportunity the white man had in America,and gave him the knowledge once they came to America,many innovations and inventions followed.The white man's power of thought was released when he came to America.
@WestcoastMusicals Let me thing about how long the usa exist about 235 years and now how long they were in war 209 years, well you must be an indian. Dude your white and again before you bring god in this read the bible.
@WestcoastMusicals how did the white men changed the world for the better? With the indian running it there were no taxes, no debt, planty of wildlife, free land, free food and free medical care. How do you want to improve that?
@xxmkerror - And tribal warfare out the ass. The land was not "free". They fought other tribes tooth and toenail for it almost daily. Nor was the food "free". They had to grow it by working the soil with sticks in the hot sun and take down huge dangerous game with rocks and spears. And there WAS NO healthcare - except for a medicine man dancing around. Their life expectancy through all this was about 25 years. Your argument is just wrong on so many levels.
@coochie2u Well in case you don't know you still have to work the soil and you still have to kill animals nowadays but you pay for the food. They have grown their own food for free, they where Self Reliant. They had a medicine man who used healing herbs, that was their Healthcare. In todays medicin we still use those herbs. And the thing with the life span is bullshit, do some research. And if doing researches is to difficult, watch some western and count the old guys
@WestcoastMusicals "God planned for Caucasians to discover this land to advance the world" Yeah right and God planned for the Caucasians to enslave black people and treat them like animals. Oh yeah and racism also Gods plan. Read the bible befor you bring God in this, oh and by the way you have broken the 3 Commandment.
@xxmkerror When schools,cities,highways are designed it's based on census of legal citizens living in that area.Immigrants are a random increase in population,which causes many problems.Crime,gangs,noise pollution,culture conflict,racism,over crowding,traffic jams,poor customer service,are all the results of too many legal and illegal immigrants coming to the U.S. I'm Black by the way,remember that,and I'm teaching every black and white person I know about the immigrant invasion.
@xxmkerror Im glad you're not American either stay in Japan and China,and I'll stay in the great USA.A flag is a representation of your country,your culture,your history.If I burned your Asian homeland flag I guarantee you and your people will be pissed,so don't give me your bullshit woman lies.I'm glad Asians and Arabs keep women out of political power;women are stupid,weak,and contradict because women are all emotions,not reason.How many people do Japan or China let migrate their? O
@WestcoastMusicals I'm not Asian/Arab and i'm not a women. You have serious problems, you hate on other ethnic groups and the opposite Sex. What happend to you? Only in the USA people get offended by burning a flag, the rest of the world doesn't care about it. You should be more concerned that your Flag is produced cheaply in communist China. And before you hate on china i think they own your ass. That shows how far the usa has come.
This is why I find all the shit people say on these videos entertaining. They act like as if they know what their talking about, simply because they saw it somewhere or someone told them so. I'm glad CNN is actually bringing this to light, I'm sure not many people will actually listen to the message and take note. Do you idiots hear that? Billions of dollars in economic output that the state will missing out on, output that lazy Americans wouldn't be able to achieve.
"Billions of dollars in economic output" ??? HAHAHAAA This is the same old "illegals-are-good-for-the-economy" excuse, but then these politically correct charlatans CONTRADICT themselves by complaining that illegal aliens are "exploited"!!? So you're proud that "exploitation" is "good" for the economy??! See? You can't have it both ways. And if illegals are soooo "good" in the "BILLIONS of dollars" then why is mexico itself a relatively poor thirdworld country?? What a farce.
PINCHE VIEJITO PENDEJO!!! You want crops to come in pues get up off ur fucking fat ass y recojelos tu mismo pendejo or grab some of ur racist gavachos to do the job ya k tanto dicen k we're a burden to them!
You did it to the chinos and native americans y ahora a nosotros. Mientras nos necesitan bien padre no pero ya cuando acavamos de hacer el trabajo nos mandan a la chingada!
Fuck Russell Pearce and shove a nopal up ur ass puto gavacho de mierda!!!
If I was illegal I wouldn't f-in go back to that job. Let the white ppl fill those positions. Where are they now? Complaining about mexicans taking job but reality reveals when they are sitting their fatasses on the couch mooching off welfare
@XNMR53 Oh and btw my WHITE citizen history teacher IN COLLEGE says that the white racist laws are shit. Racist ppl are shit. Stupid hypocrites are shit. Hmmm And good for your family fighting. Did you fight? No! So get over yourself you retarded lame ass! For your information. Aztecs and native Americans were here first. In Mexico which was California, Arizona, and other states retard! Lol
@XNMR53, you're so stupid! You say you've worked with professionals all over the world? Hahaa you sure as hell are a dumbass. My cousin who is 100% Mexican works with ppl all over the world and travels because of her job! I'm 100% sure she makes wayyyyyy more money than your sorry ass. Quit being racist. Obviously were a threat to you racist dumb fucks because we are doing good thing with our lives.
Most of the blaming on illegal immigrants taking our jobs is giving our children the wrong idea about other cultures. We should keep our opinions away from our children so they can be loving of all races.
I'm not sure what's so hard about understanding one simple word "illegal" did this one word stop speaking for itself. really guys come on. Get it please its really not hard. We would not have this topic of discussion if some people understood the definition of ILLEGAL . Lol
@XNMR53 What a fantastic past; I just hope your present is as "Good" as your past; but not as "good" as your future...Illiterate? based on what? ASSHOLE; I'm witting in your language. I speak 4 languages; very fluenty; how many do you speak? You RAT! En la proxima me contestas en la tuya PUTO!
Ask the ass-hole Arizonians; including mother fucker ARPAIO to go to hell. Let HIM work for minimum wage...you want to play racial games? go to hell! This is negociating time: You made a whore endous mistake; now pay $20.00/hr. for their labor. Miserable rats!!
How does "minimum wage, $20.00/hr, workers, blah blahh" pertain to enforcing immigration laws??? If illegal aliens feel they're being "exploited" then why don't they just leave?? No one forces mexicans to live in the U.S. You can't obstruct immigration enforcement by arguing that illegals are "good" for the U.S. economy but then complain that illegals are "exploited"!(?); HAHAHA That's a CONTRADICTION. See?? You can't have it both ways. Illegals & their supportes are a cheap fraud.
@XNMR53 look, it's true several illegal immigrants have crossed the country in that way, and lets see, they work in the sun for low pays, some of the immigrants are brought here and later to be left behind, and if they're to deport them back, at least they should have the decency to send the whole family instead of taking them apart. My family's friendwere taken away when he was 10 and he couldn't go with them because he was an American-born citizen and now lives with relatives.
"he couldn't go with them because he was an American-born citizen"??? As "U.S. citizens"--fraudulent U.S. citizens--anchor babies have the right to travel abroad. No one forces deported illegal alien parents to ABANDON their anchor babies in the U.S. So who's "separating" who? Sweden & mexico--for example--do NOT grant citizenship to illegal aliens' children born in those territoties. We need to end the absurdity of birthright U.S. citizenship for illegal aliens' children.
@WTX4XTW I agree, but we must also end anchor generations, especially those who received their citizenship through unjust means. This entire country is an anchor nation, placed on top of the land of the Native Americans. You and your entire family are anchor citizens just as much as any "anchor" baby. Not even your "founding fathers" have any legitimate claim to this land, only through deceptive and genocidal ways was any claim achieved. Not even Washington belongs. What makes you think you do?
"citizenship through unjust means. This entire country is an anchor nation"??? Where? Who? The indigenous tribes of the New World did not even have a concept of "citizenship" & much less would they have customs & immigration protocols. HAHAHAA The Stone Age tribes did not believe any man could own land, so the early European pioneers settled on un-claimed land & were attacked by indigenous SQUATTERS. How "progressive" is it to long for a primitive cannibal existence?? HAHAHAA
the law isn't racist. anyone who says it's racist is leftarded. it's like saying since illegal aliens are primarily christian, that the law is persecuting christians. nonsense.
so get an american. he needs help I can give you a bunch. I wish I knew about this I would have moved. but the wages that they pay are ilegal and thats Y Americana's will not do it. look in to his company HE IS NOT WILLING TO PAY.
wow. that white legislator guy sounds like a real slave owner in the 17th centery. Listen to his own words at 2.25-2.50, sounds like he wants to enslave the mexican laborers. can't do this and can't do that, just work for us till u die. cruelty. shame on you mr legislator.
Why just "boycott" AZ?? Mexicans & illegal aliens should boycott the entire U.S. by returning to mexico, staying in mexico, & quit jumping the border.
The U.S. doesn't "need" illegal aliens. The U.S. without illegals would have less poverty, misery, racial pandering, entropy, graffiti & gangbangers. These contradicting left wing types arguing that illegals are "good" for the U.S. capitalist economy are the same socialist trolls that demonize capitalism in the first place! hahahaa What a joke.
@WTX4XTW well, without immigrants this whole country would go down, such as food shortage, because many immigrants raise the food for this country, and the white people don't want to work in the sun, blacks are too lazy, and if you think latinos shouldn't be in this country, go back to Europe or Africa
There is a very critical difference between a legal immigrant & an illegal alien. In mexico, foreigners aren't even allowed to own land & HYPOCRITE mexico's own immigration laws are laughably more strict than anything in the U.S. And it's the height of absuridy to argue that "latinos & Immigrants" buy food for all the "whites" in the U.S. when it's mexicans that jump the U.S. border escaping mexico's hunger & poverty in the first place. HAHAHAA Quit making excuses.
Framing the illegal alien problem as a "jobs, labor" issue is intended to hide the real issue of borders & immigration laws/sovereignty being violated compounded by the tremendous social & political impact the illegal alien invasion inflicts on the U.S.--or any nation. If there were 47 million U.S. citizens running aroung illegally in mexico crying "racism" & arguing that they're "wrokers" then you left wing charlatans would be crying "U.S. IMPERIALISM!!" hahaha Illegal invasions are a farce.
Arizona is plagued by racist.Many of my friends who have visited Arizona have been discriminated against for their skin color.And this happened WAY before the anti immigration law thingy......And how do illegals get welfare ?!?!?!?! They need papers for that!
Arizona learned real quick that chasing away low wage workers that actually work hard was a big mistake for the economy. Since that time, Republican lawmakers have rejected 5 of their own anti-immigrations laws that they originally proposed. Money talks, so many of the workers have been lured back to the very same state those that drove them away.
@christiancecena: I'm ignorant? I have a Ph.D. in sociology and political philosophy. Very few illegals actually pay taxes. The majority of them collect welfare benefits.
@FreeMenDieFree sorry to let you know, but i dont believe you have a phd in sociology, if you had one, you will know that without papers you cant collect welfare, i just hope the american people didnt pay for your education...
My forman told me straight out -" fuck white boys, I would rather run a constuction project with mexican boys, if something needs to be done they all offer to do it, white boys think they are all special and bitch alot ." and every one of his workers were legal and U.S born mexican workers.
mejor cierren la boca putos gringos racistas de cagada, por que ustedes saben cerdos que sin los mexicanos no serian nada en este mundo pendejos, ahora vean a su alrededor no todos son mexicanos ilegales, hay muchos malditos chinos y sudamericanos mejor piensen y solo dire dos palabras mas PANCHO VILLA !!
sen barbara jordans 1995 commission on immigration found 12 ways to solve immigration, applauded by Clinton but amnesty offered as alternative to her real solutions. fastest growing group of illegals are not hispanic, but indians and chinese overstaying their visas.
2012 go to numbersusa and find the immigration voting record of your weasel in washington and vote the weasels out.
look here you son of bitch we do pay our fucking taxes every year at time its do so dont go making assumptions that we dont pay taxes you ignorant fuck!!!!!
Do you know what kind of BS you have to go through to get your papers to come to the US! I am paying about $7000 trying to get my husbands papers! It takes years and its just for a maybe! So i may have to end up living in mexico thanks to the US gov! My husband is a good man and works his but off- He deserves to be able to come here and live with me! But thanks to racist people he may not be able to!
AZ knows they need the workers and are just to big headed to just say it! For the ones they keep saying well if you went to mexico illegal..... i have before - the first time i ever went bc nobody told me what i needed. all I had to do is go pay $20 and I got my visa-- Coming to the US and getting papers is totally different than going to mexico-- when you fly to mexico you get your tourist visa for 6 months w the ticket! Try getting a tourist visa to come to the US!
This is a remix of slavery--you want the work of the undocumented immigrants but you dont want them-- This is straight up BS! People are people no matter where they are from or what they look like.Mexicans are not the only ones illegal-where did ur family come from?! When are people going to grow up-we all bleed the same, people are all trying to make it in life. If yall have been to where I have been in Mexico you may understand.No power some places-no running water! No food!$4 to work all day
minute 2:00. so this Russell Pierce character wants cheap labor, but none of the costs of it? can anybody please explain me how his "worker's program" propousal is not just plain slavery????
then mexico is a "racist fascist" state because police in mexico are authorized to question anyone at any time, period; with no "racism" concerns slowing them down,,,mexico denies jobs, housing, medical care, schools, rights, & etc. to undocumented migrants--mostly Guatemalans & Salvadoreans--in mexican territory...then hypocrite mexico demands that illegals be accomodated in the U.S.! HAHAHA this is an illegal invasion & you all know it,,,so we mexican trolls cry "racism" & demonize the AZ law
No Dream Act, No Amnesty, Im amazed to see that the Senate Dems are pushing amnesty, Dream acts for illegals and there kids. Unbelievable, Americans in dire staits & the Dems make amnesty for illegals a priority!?! This is about what is best for the DemParty. A mnesty = illegal votes, whooppee!)
Politicians R tone deaf to what Americans want. So FED UP with this nonsense.
Folks, it is time for US to organize. To teach. To learn. To vote!
these "illegals-are-good-for-economy" arguments are a joke: so if an intruder (or burglar) breaks into someone's house then the homeowner has to commission ten studies claiming that the intruder is "bad" for his household's economy to have the police take action, & the intruder's lawyer commissions another ten studies claiming the intruder is "good" for the household's economy but all the while the burglar gets to live in the house indefinitely while the surreal debate rages on forever?! hahahaa
@mexicano666h Tell me, you humongous moron, when did you hear that a whole country is private property? Of WHOM? The steel plant of Bailey IS HIS PROPERTY! PRIVATE!. If sanity prevailed, he would get to decide whom he contracts with, after a routine background check. PERIOD. He had to try hiring even ex-cons, over people who might only have on them an ADMINISTRATIVE OFFENSE. SURREAL.
@logonorrhea...go sneak illegaly into mexico, tell them it's "ok" because mexico is not a "wholly private property" & watch how fast they throw you in jail HAHAHAHAAA...you're a politically correct racial pandering clown that cannnot see past your racial-misery pathology & marxist class warfare...you claim to seek "equality" but you ONLY(!) hold the U.S. to UNILATERAL UTOPIAN standards that you'd never apply to the rotten repressive anti-U.S. nations that are exempt from your asinine indictment
@mexicano96636s You continue to be a MORON, and a F-TARD to boot. Mexico and it's government are no examples to follow in regard to rule of law and the rest. Mexicans get out of Mexico for very real reasons. But you cannot grasp even that.
UNLESS you want the USA to become like Mexico. Yes, follow Mexico's example with individual freedoms, bureaucracy, police powers and the like, and in no time, Sirrah, I guarantee HORRIBLE results.
@logorrhea In fact, what I DON'T WANT, is for developed nations to devolve, or worse even, become totalitarian. What I don't need is racist trolls like you, with all the potential and IQ to vote in a fascist or communist dictatorship in the U.S.A., without a minimal understanding of the thing they are buying in. I like my, and others' privacy, I cherish PRIVATE property and freedom of others, as well as mine. You seem not to have developed beyond an infantile state.
we hate the AZ law because it makes it difficult for our illegal alien invasion to to run smoothly...but please don't tell anyone that police in mexico question anyone at anytime with no "racial profiling" concerns to slow them down, & we hypocrite mexicans' own immigration laws are so draconian & strict that if they were copied in the U.S. we would cry "nazis!!" HAHAHA
so we cry "racism" & flop as "victims" & you scared gullibe americans give us anything we want HAHAHAA!! VIVA MEXICOOO
@logorrhea I think you have Liberal and Libertarian mixed up. No self respecting Libertarian would agree to an open borders policy, or turning of the head to illigal activity. Illegally living in the country, identity theft, and stealing from the public treasury does not serve anyone right. The laws are not "evil" they are meant to protect the freedom and property of the citizens of the united states. Its your country bud, get on board.
@FizzyBublech - Right you are! "Free" doesn't mean free-for-all. If the US does not get control of our borders, this will become the same over-populated, polluted, socially chaotic mess that so many of our global citizens are trying to escape. These are, mostly, decent hard-working people who we should be helping to build up their own economies. As you know, no one nation can be the world's lifeboat. Peace to ALL.
@FizzyBublech Libertarian means advocating freedom. Freedom means that if a person is not harming others by their own actions, and there's absolutely no other grounds to stop them, you should let them be. Specifically, if a person can get a job contract (or seek a job even!) in a country, a Libertarian should be with him and his employer as parts to an honest contract, not with the bureaucrats or with busybodies trying to stop them because of country of birth or any other idiotic reason!!!
@logorrhea I for my part will never side with the INS against honest, hardworking people. Crop pickers for example do hard work for pay, on the most honest basis ever!
Dishonest people is another matter. Like the INS and the bureaucrats who are actually parasites living off an imaginary need for control over borders, outside of keeping criminals, and I mean actual thieves and murderers, out.
@logorrhea - Hello. Freedom is God given right. Mass immigration (NOT individual entrants) has done MUCH HARM, having caused severe wage depletion (simple supply & demand). I volunteer for a homeless shelter. Hard-working parents (w/children) are showing up because of jobs lost to foreign born individuals willing to work for a less than livable wage, which is why immigrant families are jammed 4 to a tiny apartment. Is this how you want us all to have to "live?" Seriously? Just asking. Peace.
@mjcamck71 Of course, were the now "illegals" granted a legal status, and were the visa conditions reasonable and conducive to having a real life in the country, they could also demand higher wages, and you could deport any "illegals" who choose to forego an entirely reasonable process with a clear conscience. BUT THERE IS NO REASONABLE PROCESS IN PLACE NOW. Face it.
@logorrhea - Hello. There is a reasonable legal, unlimited guest worker process. In the meantime, "legal" immigration is just as harmful as illegal if it's excessive. Quotas have gone from 290,000 per year to 1.3 million annually. Farms, forests & wetlands are disappearing under the resultant development rapidly. At this rate, the US will have to cease ALL food exports in only 20 years. As long they're all non-criminals, should the US accept hundreds of millions? Seriously. Peace.
@logorrhea So let me get this straight. Being a Libertarian means you think that it is ok to cross over our nations borders illegally, seek employment using stolen identities, then begin siphoning off public services such as education, health care, and housing at the expense of the tax payers so as long as you dont "hurt" anyone? Again, you are mistaking Libertarian with Liberal as that has absolutely nothing to do with Freedom.
@logorrhea Libertarians believe in the Constitution and the rule of law. That being said, one of the Federal Governments main responsibilities is to secure and protect our nations borders. There is not 1 Libertarian that I know that does not understand or agree with this. Even MEXICO strictly enforces its nations borders especially to the south.
@FizzyBublech We believe in rights, and in the Constitution. Rule of law is subject to those, and laws too. Nowhere in the Constitution I see that there should be a Federal Bureaucracy to deal with immigrants in the most obstructive way conceivable, and intrude on the rights and privacy of all people. Employers and employees among them. Propose a Constitutional Ammendment for that. Good luck, LOL!
Secure and protect nation borders against foreign agressors. Not immigrants.
@logorrhea Illegal immigration costs California taxpayers more than 10.5bn a year in education, medical care and incarceration. The annual fiscal burden per household is about 2k US per year for native born residents. And as for foreign aggressors, the number of violent crimes each year committed by illegal immigrants is staggering. Incarceration of illegals in US jails for violent crimes are triple that of native born residents. Still think there is no credible threat? What about my rights?
@logorrhea The most violent gangs in america are populated with illegal immigrants. They murder, rape, rob, and sell drugs to survive. Getting back to cost, the total contributions (tax dollars) by illegals equals less than 10% of what it costs to support them hence, another reason why it is important to have strict immigration guidelines. What you call bureaucratic and obstructive I call necessary and smart.
@FizzyBublech "the total contributions (tax dollars) by illegals equals less than 10% of what it costs to support them hence" Oh yeah, every study published up to date contradicts this figure of yours by, like, 1000% or more. In fact illegals pay taxes, at times more than any native, and without claiming most services.
As for the illegals being the violent criminals, you are flat wrong about that too, if every study published up to date is right. Most places, illegals are more law-abiding
@logorrhea than natives and legal immigrants, except for the little administrative matter. Anyhow, bureaucratic immigration restriction is getting nowhere. Face reality for once.
@logorrhea You cant discount facts because you dont like them. The STATE OF CALIFORNIA estimates it cost native born taxpayers 10.9bn dollars a year to cover education, healthcare and housing for illegal immigrants. The tax revenue generated (1.7bn dollars) in income tax (from stolen identities) as well as sales and service taxes from them is less than 10% of that cost. This accounts for nearly 1/2 of the states budget deficit.
@logorrhea Arizona: Department of Homeland Security 2010 - Undocumented prisoners accounted for 40% of all the prisoners serving time in Arizona state prisons for kidnapping; 24% of those serving time for drug charges; and 13 percent of those serving time for murder. US DOJ- 18th street gang, 80% illegal aliens with total membership of 50k active in 44 cities and 20 states. MS13 with 10k Members up to 90% illegal immigrants.
@FizzyBublech I don't either believe a tenth of the figures you pose. Going back to topic: and... like I said at the start, there's no sweeter sound or smell than arrogant bastards hoisted on their own petards. It's a shame the R. Pierce will not be made to pay for all the financial damage... It would be most amusing. And... why should immigrant workers pay all their taxes, if they don't receive full benefit?
@logorrhea If you dont belive them then check them yourself. I gave documented, re searchable, provable facts. I have already proven that it costs more to educate, house, and provide healthcare to illegals than they contribute which means they get benefits they dont pay for and not the other way around. And what financial damage are you referring to? Enforcing laws are not meant to be held at the digression of the public treasury even if that where the case.
@FizzyBublech For all the financial damage caused by the bill he sponsored. Billions. I know the score, you can't sue the govt. Hail Goddess Democracy in the 20th. Century, where some idiots get to be majority and the minority picks up the tab. That's why good Constitutions begin by severely defining and limiting government powers, specially what govts. could do with democracy.
@logorrhea Well, its natural that when given the chance, people will vote themselves more services at someone elses expense. With all the class warfare that is instigated by politicians, those on the receiving end feel no empathy towards those they are taking from. With regards to illegal immigration, dont you think its fair that any costs associated with providing services to people from say Mexico, are paid by Mexico?
@FizzyBublech It would be reasonable... if the destiny of a person's taxes was their country of citizenship. Or if no taxes were paid by such a person or anyone having the person as a dependent. However, the usual case is that taxes are paid to the country of residence regardless of citizenship. Services are being paid for and services ought to be provided on an equitable basis to the person and their dependents. Else it's a complete scam.
@logorrhea That makes no sense to send tax dollars earned here to another country. The marketplace is "ours" the cost to run it is "ours" and the jobs that generate the tax revenue to support the market are "ours". Having a job and paying taxes does not entitle you to free healthcare, hell I work 50hrs a week, pay taxes, I am 4th generation and I dont get free healthcare. At that point why not just renounce citizenship, continue paying taxes and I wouldn't need to buy health insurance.
@FizzyBublech It's only natural and fair to pay taxes in the place you earn income. It's natural and fair that the services paid for by those taxes are provided in the same place. If the government cannot offer services with what it earns, there's a problem, but not with immigration, but with how government is run. Ron Paul said something about getting rid of freebies.to get rid of the people who come seeking freebies.
@logorrhea This depends on how you define "services". The Constitution is very specific with regards to how the federal government conducts itself. Services, in the welfare sense, are strictly un-constitutional. Services, in the nation defense sense, are withing the powers of the federal government. You are right about Ron Paul, but he was making reference to why they come here. He is however for protection our nations borders which he says needs to be address first.
Over 20 million unemployed Americans & this man can't find 12 new legal workers? The "other side" of less economic output is also LESS RESOURCE CONSUMPTION & ENVIRONMENTAL DESTRUCTION. Something no one wants to talk about. We human beings are resource consumers. The USA is rapidly depleting our land & water supplies due to immigration driven population growth. Developers in my former state went out of business when they ran out of land to build on. Please stop & think. Peace, ALL.
@AstrumSol - Hello. I happen to be at the computer. I hope you're an intelligent, rational person interested in facts. I suspect we'll still disagree about US population size & it's ill effects on environmental & social structures. But, maybe you'll look: The Carrying Capacity Network, Negative Population Growth & NumbersUSA. We can & should help our global neighbors create betters lives on their own soil. 2 billion people live on less than $2 a day. How many should we accept here? Peace.
@mjcamck71 Tear down trade barriers. Allow the Third World to trade with Europe and the U.S.A. and you will see them prosper without ever leaving their own soil. Stop subsidizing agro production in the developed world. Trade not aid. Level the intellectual property field so patent monopolies don't last forever and medicines and technology become cheaper through markets. Of course, much is to be done by people in the Third World. But this can help. Not the answer everybody wanted to hear? Sorry.
@DIRECTVable i agree. America should let in some of the actual immigrants. i do not condone or like anyone sneaking into the USA illegally. it isnt fair to anyone who was already here, if someone just comes in , doesnt pay taxes, they cause trouble and crime, and disrespect OUR culture, then i would gladly deport them. What about you?
@icup728 I'd do the same, it doesn't matter who does it, if anyone breaks the law they should be persecuted. If they come here to work, get better education, adapt to our culture, follow the law, pay their taxes,and contribute to the community, I don't see why we shouldn't let them stay. But if people are going to come in thinking they can do whatever they want ,thinking they're gonna get some kind of special treatment, then they should definitely leave.
@DIRECTVable THANK YOU. someone who agrees with me. you dont know how many times ive tried to explain this to my buddies, and they call me racist because they're Mexican. I DONT KNOW WHY CHUCK NORRIS DOESNT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS! lol
Tip to anyone go to ARIZONA to get work. If the rest of America is unemployed by 9 percent why not move to this place?
The problem is that illegals exist. If you come to this country, do what people did at the turn of the 20th century. Learn the language. Learn how to be just like an other American. There is no easy answer.
Wa ha, I knew this was gonna happen. Fuck arizona stay out let them eat shit. That's what they asked for now they got it. Carefull what you wish for cuss you might end up eating shit too.
illegals were meant to work out in the fields. then they crossed to the blue collar jobs and took those jobs at a lower pay scale. the companies raised their prices and hired the cheap labor. many U.S. Citizens suffered because of this injustice. send them all back to the fields. you will see more Americans coming to fill those spots but not at the cheap labor rate.
the only solution for illegal aliens problem is: DEPORT, DEPORT, and DEPORT. Otherwise, you should pay from your pocket for illegals' kids education, emergency room bills, infrastructure use, food stamps, social wellfare programs their kids are on and so on.
Panda bears are endangered and they are trying to preserve this unique and precious life form.
If someone came forward and said, we should flood the Pandas' territory with Brown Bears and mix them both, you would say, this person is a criminal.
Demanding all white countries be flooded with millions of people that are not their race, until whites become a minority, calling anyone that objects a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews is GeNOcide.
YOU have more in common with the Nazis than you think Anti-White, The only thing you disagree with them on, is the race to be gotten rid of and the method of genocide.
Why do "anti-racists" DEMAND all white countries and only White countries have this immigration?
Re-Hire at the Price that the Legal Market demands. If the price is high..that's a good thing..
jimeckland 1 week ago
Sorry, NO SALE. There are over 20 Million Unemployed legal, legitimate US citizens looking for work. Why aren't the policy makers (both private & public) not offering re-settlement packages for the MILLIONS OF LAID OFF WORKERS in other states to re-locate to Arizona and fill the vacated jobs? Seriously.
mjcamck 3 weeks ago
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@mjcamck: That would be nice, but the problem is, the elite in this country have a divide-and-conquer agenda in mind. They want to keep screwing over American workers, and they will do things such as destroying the unions to do so, and they are trying to place all the blame for our unemployment woes on people from other countries who just wanted a better life here. This is happening in several European countries, too, including Britain.
MiracleMile90 3 weeks ago
20 Million People of ALL races, native & naturalized UNEMPLOYED and these businesses "can't find" a couple of dozen workers?
mjcamck 3 weeks ago
@mjcamck It's all lies just to get cheap labor from Mexicans,and no overtime for over working them.
WestcoastMusicals 3 weeks ago
I'm Black American and I'm against all illegal immigrants.Legal immigrants and illegal immigrants from all Spanish speaking countries must be stopped,it's too many of these parasitic people over populating this country.
WestcoastMusicals 3 weeks ago
@WestcoastMusicals As a black man you should know better, if you hate against illegals ok but hating against legal immigrants is just stupid.
xxmkerror 3 weeks ago
@xxmkerror Many of these "legal" immigrants you defend are the main ones burning American flags,placing their Spanish homeland flag above the USA flag,and show no loyalty to the U.S.,that's treason. Allowing someone to enter your country illegally,give birth then their baby is automatically a citizen,is appalling.There is also the huge issue with over population,over crowding of schools,traffic jams,all caused by legal and illegal immigrants.Get educated;become a real American like me
WestcoastMusicals 3 weeks ago
@WestcoastMusicals I'm not american and if a real american thinks like that i don't want to be one. You should learn that a flag is just a flag, sure your Forefathers sacrificed their lives for it, but not for a flag more for the Concept of a free america. The USA is the so called "Land of the Free" immigrants build this country, everyone should have the right to live his life to the fullest. You have so much why not share it, with people who have less. They just want to live
xxmkerror 3 weeks ago
@WestcoastMusicals over population,over crowding of schools,traffic jams aren't caused by immigrants, its just the result of poor management.
"Allowing someone to enter your country illegally,give birth then their baby is automatically a citizen,is appalling" i don't know, but ask the indians how they think about that
They just want to live they don't hurt anybody, let them pay taxes and they will. And if they hurt anybody than sure send them back
xxmkerror 3 weeks ago
@xxmkerror @xxmkerror This has nothing to do with Indians stop dwelling in the past,history is history.There was no constitution,no government,no laws when the indians ruled America.God planned for Caucasians to discover this land to advance the world.Over population,over crowding and traffic jams are a direct effect of legal and illegal immigrants.Immigrants increase the population more than double that of regular citizens.
WestcoastMusicals 3 weeks ago
@WestcoastMusicals So the indians lived without any laws and without goverment, you must have been a good history student, thats just ridiculous do some research try google or wikipedia and search for tribal chief, educate yourself befor you say bullsh*t like that. You shouldn't be allowed to teach other people, if you are that uninformed.
xxmkerror 3 weeks ago
@xxmkerror The indians had no constitution,the killed anyone who was not of their tribe,and collected the skulls.They were always at war with other tribes,it was basically uncivilized,until the great white man came to this land and changed the world for the better.God knew the opportunity the white man had in America,and gave him the knowledge once they came to America,many innovations and inventions followed.The white man's power of thought was released when he came to America.
WestcoastMusicals 3 weeks ago
@WestcoastMusicals Let me thing about how long the usa exist about 235 years and now how long they were in war 209 years, well you must be an indian. Dude your white and again before you bring god in this read the bible.
xxmkerror 3 weeks ago
@xxmkerror I'm Black not white
WestcoastMusicals 3 weeks ago
@WestcoastMusicals how did the white men changed the world for the better? With the indian running it there were no taxes, no debt, planty of wildlife, free land, free food and free medical care. How do you want to improve that?
xxmkerror 3 weeks ago
@xxmkerror - And tribal warfare out the ass. The land was not "free". They fought other tribes tooth and toenail for it almost daily. Nor was the food "free". They had to grow it by working the soil with sticks in the hot sun and take down huge dangerous game with rocks and spears. And there WAS NO healthcare - except for a medicine man dancing around. Their life expectancy through all this was about 25 years. Your argument is just wrong on so many levels.
coochie2u 1 week ago
@coochie2u Well in case you don't know you still have to work the soil and you still have to kill animals nowadays but you pay for the food. They have grown their own food for free, they where Self Reliant. They had a medicine man who used healing herbs, that was their Healthcare. In todays medicin we still use those herbs. And the thing with the life span is bullshit, do some research. And if doing researches is to difficult, watch some western and count the old guys
xxmkerror 1 week ago
@WestcoastMusicals "God planned for Caucasians to discover this land to advance the world" Yeah right and God planned for the Caucasians to enslave black people and treat them like animals. Oh yeah and racism also Gods plan. Read the bible befor you bring God in this, oh and by the way you have broken the 3 Commandment.
xxmkerror 3 weeks ago
@xxmkerror When schools,cities,highways are designed it's based on census of legal citizens living in that area.Immigrants are a random increase in population,which causes many problems.Crime,gangs,noise pollution,culture conflict,racism,over crowding,traffic jams,poor customer service,are all the results of too many legal and illegal immigrants coming to the U.S. I'm Black by the way,remember that,and I'm teaching every black and white person I know about the immigrant invasion.
WestcoastMusicals 3 weeks ago
@xxmkerror Im glad you're not American either stay in Japan and China,and I'll stay in the great USA.A flag is a representation of your country,your culture,your history.If I burned your Asian homeland flag I guarantee you and your people will be pissed,so don't give me your bullshit woman lies.I'm glad Asians and Arabs keep women out of political power;women are stupid,weak,and contradict because women are all emotions,not reason.How many people do Japan or China let migrate their? O
WestcoastMusicals 3 weeks ago
@WestcoastMusicals I'm not Asian/Arab and i'm not a women. You have serious problems, you hate on other ethnic groups and the opposite Sex. What happend to you? Only in the USA people get offended by burning a flag, the rest of the world doesn't care about it. You should be more concerned that your Flag is produced cheaply in communist China. And before you hate on china i think they own your ass. That shows how far the usa has come.
xxmkerror 3 weeks ago
there taking the job to mexico i work for bank of america and i live in mexico xD and there not the only company or bank xD
rodopeth 1 month ago
This is why I find all the shit people say on these videos entertaining. They act like as if they know what their talking about, simply because they saw it somewhere or someone told them so. I'm glad CNN is actually bringing this to light, I'm sure not many people will actually listen to the message and take note. Do you idiots hear that? Billions of dollars in economic output that the state will missing out on, output that lazy Americans wouldn't be able to achieve.
UniverseOffspring 1 month ago
"Billions of dollars in economic output" ??? HAHAHAAA This is the same old "illegals-are-good-for-the-economy" excuse, but then these politically correct charlatans CONTRADICT themselves by complaining that illegal aliens are "exploited"!!? So you're proud that "exploitation" is "good" for the economy??! See? You can't have it both ways. And if illegals are soooo "good" in the "BILLIONS of dollars" then why is mexico itself a relatively poor thirdworld country?? What a farce.
WTX4XTW 1 month ago
@WTX4XTW You're a good American
WestcoastMusicals 3 weeks ago
they know without mexicans they cant last, they wont do our work
scoobydubeedew 1 month ago
arizona is racist even more with those arizona racist girls ...
carloss1904 2 months ago
Lol, arizona, what a joke.
deka360 2 months ago
PINCHE VIEJITO PENDEJO!!! You want crops to come in pues get up off ur fucking fat ass y recojelos tu mismo pendejo or grab some of ur racist gavachos to do the job ya k tanto dicen k we're a burden to them!
You did it to the chinos and native americans y ahora a nosotros. Mientras nos necesitan bien padre no pero ya cuando acavamos de hacer el trabajo nos mandan a la chingada!
Fuck Russell Pearce and shove a nopal up ur ass puto gavacho de mierda!!!
PrincessitaFea 2 months ago
It like that south park episode
cooljoshable 2 months ago
If I was illegal I wouldn't f-in go back to that job. Let the white ppl fill those positions. Where are they now? Complaining about mexicans taking job but reality reveals when they are sitting their fatasses on the couch mooching off welfare
ddgarcia90 2 months ago 6
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@ddgarcia90: Sadly, that definitely is happening to an extent........not that I have anything against welfare, of course.
MiracleMile90 3 weeks ago
Bahaha what now you dumb pink rasist ?
ozzyperez1993 2 months ago
Thats how ignorant these people realy are.. Enough said!!
sanluis777 2 months ago
poor lil lost boy from africa
JRbitch09 2 months ago
@XNMR53 Oh and btw my WHITE citizen history teacher IN COLLEGE says that the white racist laws are shit. Racist ppl are shit. Stupid hypocrites are shit. Hmmm And good for your family fighting. Did you fight? No! So get over yourself you retarded lame ass! For your information. Aztecs and native Americans were here first. In Mexico which was California, Arizona, and other states retard! Lol
stefj921 2 months ago
@XNMR53, you're so stupid! You say you've worked with professionals all over the world? Hahaa you sure as hell are a dumbass. My cousin who is 100% Mexican works with ppl all over the world and travels because of her job! I'm 100% sure she makes wayyyyyy more money than your sorry ass. Quit being racist. Obviously were a threat to you racist dumb fucks because we are doing good thing with our lives.
stefj921 2 months ago
Most of the blaming on illegal immigrants taking our jobs is giving our children the wrong idea about other cultures. We should keep our opinions away from our children so they can be loving of all races.
jmm4th 2 months ago
I'm not sure what's so hard about understanding one simple word "illegal" did this one word stop speaking for itself. really guys come on. Get it please its really not hard. We would not have this topic of discussion if some people understood the definition of ILLEGAL . Lol
cjersey10 2 months ago
@XNMR53 What a fantastic past; I just hope your present is as "Good" as your past; but not as "good" as your future...Illiterate? based on what? ASSHOLE; I'm witting in your language. I speak 4 languages; very fluenty; how many do you speak? You RAT! En la proxima me contestas en la tuya PUTO!
Opusdei1951 2 months ago
Barbaque Arpaio! Having for dinner on the 4th of July!
Opusdei1951 2 months ago
@XNMR53 Which one of the two are you? Are you IRISH? German? because AMERICAN you are not! RED NECK!
Opusdei1951 2 months ago
Ask the ass-hole Arizonians; including mother fucker ARPAIO to go to hell. Let HIM work for minimum wage...you want to play racial games? go to hell! This is negociating time: You made a whore endous mistake; now pay $20.00/hr. for their labor. Miserable rats!!
Opusdei1951 2 months ago
How does "minimum wage, $20.00/hr, workers, blah blahh" pertain to enforcing immigration laws??? If illegal aliens feel they're being "exploited" then why don't they just leave?? No one forces mexicans to live in the U.S. You can't obstruct immigration enforcement by arguing that illegals are "good" for the U.S. economy but then complain that illegals are "exploited"!(?); HAHAHA That's a CONTRADICTION. See?? You can't have it both ways. Illegals & their supportes are a cheap fraud.
WTX4XTW 2 months ago
@ptsmmrs
CNN called it the Arizona Immigration Law. If it's misleading blame CNN.
xxmkerror 2 months ago
@XNMR53 look, it's true several illegal immigrants have crossed the country in that way, and lets see, they work in the sun for low pays, some of the immigrants are brought here and later to be left behind, and if they're to deport them back, at least they should have the decency to send the whole family instead of taking them apart. My family's friendwere taken away when he was 10 and he couldn't go with them because he was an American-born citizen and now lives with relatives.
TheLafamilia80 2 months ago
"he couldn't go with them because he was an American-born citizen"??? As "U.S. citizens"--fraudulent U.S. citizens--anchor babies have the right to travel abroad. No one forces deported illegal alien parents to ABANDON their anchor babies in the U.S. So who's "separating" who? Sweden & mexico--for example--do NOT grant citizenship to illegal aliens' children born in those territoties. We need to end the absurdity of birthright U.S. citizenship for illegal aliens' children.
WTX4XTW 1 month ago
@WTX4XTW I agree, but we must also end anchor generations, especially those who received their citizenship through unjust means. This entire country is an anchor nation, placed on top of the land of the Native Americans. You and your entire family are anchor citizens just as much as any "anchor" baby. Not even your "founding fathers" have any legitimate claim to this land, only through deceptive and genocidal ways was any claim achieved. Not even Washington belongs. What makes you think you do?
UniverseOffspring 1 month ago
"citizenship through unjust means. This entire country is an anchor nation"??? Where? Who? The indigenous tribes of the New World did not even have a concept of "citizenship" & much less would they have customs & immigration protocols. HAHAHAA The Stone Age tribes did not believe any man could own land, so the early European pioneers settled on un-claimed land & were attacked by indigenous SQUATTERS. How "progressive" is it to long for a primitive cannibal existence?? HAHAHAA
WTX4XTW 1 month ago
the law isn't racist. anyone who says it's racist is leftarded. it's like saying since illegal aliens are primarily christian, that the law is persecuting christians. nonsense.
UltraProle21 2 months ago
so get an american. he needs help I can give you a bunch. I wish I knew about this I would have moved. but the wages that they pay are ilegal and thats Y Americana's will not do it. look in to his company HE IS NOT WILLING TO PAY.
bustabusts 3 months ago
guys STFU with your prejudice... i hope this law is repealed..
chrisstevensjunior 3 months ago
wow. that white legislator guy sounds like a real slave owner in the 17th centery. Listen to his own words at 2.25-2.50, sounds like he wants to enslave the mexican laborers. can't do this and can't do that, just work for us till u die. cruelty. shame on you mr legislator.
HarryNotFrowning 4 months ago
Why just "boycott" AZ?? Mexicans & illegal aliens should boycott the entire U.S. by returning to mexico, staying in mexico, & quit jumping the border.
The U.S. doesn't "need" illegal aliens. The U.S. without illegals would have less poverty, misery, racial pandering, entropy, graffiti & gangbangers. These contradicting left wing types arguing that illegals are "good" for the U.S. capitalist economy are the same socialist trolls that demonize capitalism in the first place! hahahaa What a joke.
WTX4XTW 4 months ago
@WTX4XTW well, without immigrants this whole country would go down, such as food shortage, because many immigrants raise the food for this country, and the white people don't want to work in the sun, blacks are too lazy, and if you think latinos shouldn't be in this country, go back to Europe or Africa
TheLafamilia80 3 months ago
There is a very critical difference between a legal immigrant & an illegal alien. In mexico, foreigners aren't even allowed to own land & HYPOCRITE mexico's own immigration laws are laughably more strict than anything in the U.S. And it's the height of absuridy to argue that "latinos & Immigrants" buy food for all the "whites" in the U.S. when it's mexicans that jump the U.S. border escaping mexico's hunger & poverty in the first place. HAHAHAA Quit making excuses.
WTX4XTW 2 months ago
@WTX4XTW Shut up, ordinary dumbo!
Opusdei1951 2 months ago
Arizona is Stupid!!!! Hope all Mexicans leave and BOYCOTT!!!!! By the way all people that post with fake names are pu**ys!!!
mikecantu52 4 months ago
Arizona is Stupid!!!! Hope all Mexicans leave and BOYCOTT!!!!!
mikecantu52 4 months ago
Framing the illegal alien problem as a "jobs, labor" issue is intended to hide the real issue of borders & immigration laws/sovereignty being violated compounded by the tremendous social & political impact the illegal alien invasion inflicts on the U.S.--or any nation. If there were 47 million U.S. citizens running aroung illegally in mexico crying "racism" & arguing that they're "wrokers" then you left wing charlatans would be crying "U.S. IMPERIALISM!!" hahaha Illegal invasions are a farce.
WTX4XTW 4 months ago
@WTX4XTW "WROKERS"?? at least spell better before leaving bullshit on Internet, dumbass..........
antiregayton1 4 months ago
Arizona is plagued by racist.Many of my friends who have visited Arizona have been discriminated against for their skin color.And this happened WAY before the anti immigration law thingy......And how do illegals get welfare ?!?!?!?! They need papers for that!
legallyinsane456 4 months ago
Arizona learned real quick that chasing away low wage workers that actually work hard was a big mistake for the economy. Since that time, Republican lawmakers have rejected 5 of their own anti-immigrations laws that they originally proposed. Money talks, so many of the workers have been lured back to the very same state those that drove them away.
FreedomFighter2112 5 months ago
@christiancecena: I'm ignorant? I have a Ph.D. in sociology and political philosophy. Very few illegals actually pay taxes. The majority of them collect welfare benefits.
FreeMenDieFree 5 months ago
@FreeMenDieFree sorry to let you know, but i dont believe you have a phd in sociology, if you had one, you will know that without papers you cant collect welfare, i just hope the american people didnt pay for your education...
petelebu 4 months ago
My forman told me straight out -" fuck white boys, I would rather run a constuction project with mexican boys, if something needs to be done they all offer to do it, white boys think they are all special and bitch alot ." and every one of his workers were legal and U.S born mexican workers.
TheSololobo 5 months ago
man fuck that racist old dude
scarface2530 5 months ago
mejor cierren la boca putos gringos racistas de cagada, por que ustedes saben cerdos que sin los mexicanos no serian nada en este mundo pendejos, ahora vean a su alrededor no todos son mexicanos ilegales, hay muchos malditos chinos y sudamericanos mejor piensen y solo dire dos palabras mas PANCHO VILLA !!
MsIsraelon 5 months ago
@MsIsraelon Eat dirt, spick.
oysterjoe 5 months ago
fuckers deserve it for knowingly helping criminals
Anonymous87916 5 months ago
If they cant benefit from the system why should they pay Taxes?
periaadoc 5 months ago
mandatory E verify End anchor babies
jail employers of illegals
end fraudulent visa worker programs
sen barbara jordans 1995 commission on immigration found 12 ways to solve immigration, applauded by Clinton but amnesty offered as alternative to her real solutions. fastest growing group of illegals are not hispanic, but indians and chinese overstaying their visas.
2012 go to numbersusa and find the immigration voting record of your weasel in washington and vote the weasels out.
mrhulot101 5 months ago
SERVES HIM RIGHT! MEN LIKE THIS ARE A PROBLEM! HIRING NON-TAX PAYING ILLEGALS!
FreeMenDieFree 6 months ago
look here you son of bitch we do pay our fucking taxes every year at time its do so dont go making assumptions that we dont pay taxes you ignorant fuck!!!!!
My007bond007 6 months ago
@FreeMenDieFree Are you fucking kidding me your an ignorant idiot! ha ha ha ha ha Seriously get an education!
christiancecena 5 months ago
ha! TRY 37000... AND he is still not here!!!!! It's freakin impossible!!
cqmsch 6 months ago
without the immigrants this country isnt strong i knew that was going to happen
Daxiel123 6 months ago
Not all Mexicans are iIlegal immigrants. But most illegal immigrants are Mexican.
yeanoyeano 6 months ago
Do you know what kind of BS you have to go through to get your papers to come to the US! I am paying about $7000 trying to get my husbands papers! It takes years and its just for a maybe! So i may have to end up living in mexico thanks to the US gov! My husband is a good man and works his but off- He deserves to be able to come here and live with me! But thanks to racist people he may not be able to!
sonyamartinez4 6 months ago
AZ knows they need the workers and are just to big headed to just say it! For the ones they keep saying well if you went to mexico illegal..... i have before - the first time i ever went bc nobody told me what i needed. all I had to do is go pay $20 and I got my visa-- Coming to the US and getting papers is totally different than going to mexico-- when you fly to mexico you get your tourist visa for 6 months w the ticket! Try getting a tourist visa to come to the US!
sonyamartinez4 6 months ago
This is a remix of slavery--you want the work of the undocumented immigrants but you dont want them-- This is straight up BS! People are people no matter where they are from or what they look like.Mexicans are not the only ones illegal-where did ur family come from?! When are people going to grow up-we all bleed the same, people are all trying to make it in life. If yall have been to where I have been in Mexico you may understand.No power some places-no running water! No food!$4 to work all day
sonyamartinez4 6 months ago
minute 2:00. so this Russell Pierce character wants cheap labor, but none of the costs of it? can anybody please explain me how his "worker's program" propousal is not just plain slavery????
gutroplalim 6 months ago
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vechorik 6 months ago
What's that expression, you reap what you sow.
RDBeatnik 7 months ago
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logorrhea 7 months ago
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logorrhea 7 months ago
then mexico is a "racist fascist" state because police in mexico are authorized to question anyone at any time, period; with no "racism" concerns slowing them down,,,mexico denies jobs, housing, medical care, schools, rights, & etc. to undocumented migrants--mostly Guatemalans & Salvadoreans--in mexican territory...then hypocrite mexico demands that illegals be accomodated in the U.S.! HAHAHA this is an illegal invasion & you all know it,,,so we mexican trolls cry "racism" & demonize the AZ law
mexicano96636s 7 months ago
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No Dream Act, No Amnesty, Im amazed to see that the Senate Dems are pushing amnesty, Dream acts for illegals and there kids. Unbelievable, Americans in dire staits & the Dems make amnesty for illegals a priority!?! This is about what is best for the DemParty. A mnesty = illegal votes, whooppee!)
Politicians R tone deaf to what Americans want. So FED UP with this nonsense.
Folks, it is time for US to organize. To teach. To learn. To vote!
Before it is too late. Im A Fed UP American
onstageagain 7 months ago
wheres all the white people running to get jobs? I don't see it. lololololol! I guess it was all talk
darkyperv34 7 months ago
IT IS NOT ANTI IMMIGRATION LAW. IT'S ANTI ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION LAW. PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID!
123tacohell 7 months ago
these "illegals-are-good-for-economy" arguments are a joke: so if an intruder (or burglar) breaks into someone's house then the homeowner has to commission ten studies claiming that the intruder is "bad" for his household's economy to have the police take action, & the intruder's lawyer commissions another ten studies claiming the intruder is "good" for the household's economy but all the while the burglar gets to live in the house indefinitely while the surreal debate rages on forever?! hahahaa
mexicano666h 7 months ago
@mexicano666h Tell me, you humongous moron, when did you hear that a whole country is private property? Of WHOM? The steel plant of Bailey IS HIS PROPERTY! PRIVATE!. If sanity prevailed, he would get to decide whom he contracts with, after a routine background check. PERIOD. He had to try hiring even ex-cons, over people who might only have on them an ADMINISTRATIVE OFFENSE. SURREAL.
logorrhea 7 months ago
@logonorrhea...go sneak illegaly into mexico, tell them it's "ok" because mexico is not a "wholly private property" & watch how fast they throw you in jail HAHAHAHAAA...you're a politically correct racial pandering clown that cannnot see past your racial-misery pathology & marxist class warfare...you claim to seek "equality" but you ONLY(!) hold the U.S. to UNILATERAL UTOPIAN standards that you'd never apply to the rotten repressive anti-U.S. nations that are exempt from your asinine indictment
mexicano96636s 7 months ago
@mexicano96636s You continue to be a MORON, and a F-TARD to boot. Mexico and it's government are no examples to follow in regard to rule of law and the rest. Mexicans get out of Mexico for very real reasons. But you cannot grasp even that.
UNLESS you want the USA to become like Mexico. Yes, follow Mexico's example with individual freedoms, bureaucracy, police powers and the like, and in no time, Sirrah, I guarantee HORRIBLE results.
Still, a country is NOT private property.
logorrhea 7 months ago
@logorrhea In fact, what I DON'T WANT, is for developed nations to devolve, or worse even, become totalitarian. What I don't need is racist trolls like you, with all the potential and IQ to vote in a fascist or communist dictatorship in the U.S.A., without a minimal understanding of the thing they are buying in. I like my, and others' privacy, I cherish PRIVATE property and freedom of others, as well as mine. You seem not to have developed beyond an infantile state.
logorrhea 7 months ago
we hate the AZ law because it makes it difficult for our illegal alien invasion to to run smoothly...but please don't tell anyone that police in mexico question anyone at anytime with no "racial profiling" concerns to slow them down, & we hypocrite mexicans' own immigration laws are so draconian & strict that if they were copied in the U.S. we would cry "nazis!!" HAHAHA
so we cry "racism" & flop as "victims" & you scared gullibe americans give us anything we want HAHAHAA!! VIVA MEXICOOO
mexicano666h 7 months ago
I am Mexican,
I dont hate anyone but i dislike a few people.
If you would just take your skin off you'd see that me & you are just the same.:)
Itonyx3o3 7 months ago
Speaking as a libertarian: there's no sweeter sound than that of arrogant SOBs being hoisted with their own petard.
Serves them right, and they deserve much more for stupid and evil laws. Unfortunately they won't get run out of town come next election.
logorrhea 7 months ago
@logorrhea I think you have Liberal and Libertarian mixed up. No self respecting Libertarian would agree to an open borders policy, or turning of the head to illigal activity. Illegally living in the country, identity theft, and stealing from the public treasury does not serve anyone right. The laws are not "evil" they are meant to protect the freedom and property of the citizens of the united states. Its your country bud, get on board.
FizzyBublech 7 months ago
@FizzyBublech - Right you are! "Free" doesn't mean free-for-all. If the US does not get control of our borders, this will become the same over-populated, polluted, socially chaotic mess that so many of our global citizens are trying to escape. These are, mostly, decent hard-working people who we should be helping to build up their own economies. As you know, no one nation can be the world's lifeboat. Peace to ALL.
mjcamck71 7 months ago
@FizzyBublech Libertarian means advocating freedom. Freedom means that if a person is not harming others by their own actions, and there's absolutely no other grounds to stop them, you should let them be. Specifically, if a person can get a job contract (or seek a job even!) in a country, a Libertarian should be with him and his employer as parts to an honest contract, not with the bureaucrats or with busybodies trying to stop them because of country of birth or any other idiotic reason!!!
logorrhea 7 months ago
@logorrhea I for my part will never side with the INS against honest, hardworking people. Crop pickers for example do hard work for pay, on the most honest basis ever!
Dishonest people is another matter. Like the INS and the bureaucrats who are actually parasites living off an imaginary need for control over borders, outside of keeping criminals, and I mean actual thieves and murderers, out.
logorrhea 7 months ago
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logorrhea 7 months ago
@logorrhea - Hello. Freedom is God given right. Mass immigration (NOT individual entrants) has done MUCH HARM, having caused severe wage depletion (simple supply & demand). I volunteer for a homeless shelter. Hard-working parents (w/children) are showing up because of jobs lost to foreign born individuals willing to work for a less than livable wage, which is why immigrant families are jammed 4 to a tiny apartment. Is this how you want us all to have to "live?" Seriously? Just asking. Peace.
mjcamck71 7 months ago
@mjcamck71 Of course, were the now "illegals" granted a legal status, and were the visa conditions reasonable and conducive to having a real life in the country, they could also demand higher wages, and you could deport any "illegals" who choose to forego an entirely reasonable process with a clear conscience. BUT THERE IS NO REASONABLE PROCESS IN PLACE NOW. Face it.
logorrhea 7 months ago
@logorrhea - Hello. There is a reasonable legal, unlimited guest worker process. In the meantime, "legal" immigration is just as harmful as illegal if it's excessive. Quotas have gone from 290,000 per year to 1.3 million annually. Farms, forests & wetlands are disappearing under the resultant development rapidly. At this rate, the US will have to cease ALL food exports in only 20 years. As long they're all non-criminals, should the US accept hundreds of millions? Seriously. Peace.
mjcamck71 7 months ago
@logorrhea So let me get this straight. Being a Libertarian means you think that it is ok to cross over our nations borders illegally, seek employment using stolen identities, then begin siphoning off public services such as education, health care, and housing at the expense of the tax payers so as long as you dont "hurt" anyone? Again, you are mistaking Libertarian with Liberal as that has absolutely nothing to do with Freedom.
FizzyBublech 7 months ago
@FizzyBublech No, that the laws that leave few alternatives and make it attractive to commit felonies are wrong and should never have been passed.
That the bureaucracy responsible should never have been created.
And particularly, that the freebies should never be given off.
logorrhea 7 months ago
@logorrhea Libertarians believe in the Constitution and the rule of law. That being said, one of the Federal Governments main responsibilities is to secure and protect our nations borders. There is not 1 Libertarian that I know that does not understand or agree with this. Even MEXICO strictly enforces its nations borders especially to the south.
FizzyBublech 7 months ago
@FizzyBublech We believe in rights, and in the Constitution. Rule of law is subject to those, and laws too. Nowhere in the Constitution I see that there should be a Federal Bureaucracy to deal with immigrants in the most obstructive way conceivable, and intrude on the rights and privacy of all people. Employers and employees among them. Propose a Constitutional Ammendment for that. Good luck, LOL!
Secure and protect nation borders against foreign agressors. Not immigrants.
logorrhea 7 months ago
@logorrhea Illegal immigration costs California taxpayers more than 10.5bn a year in education, medical care and incarceration. The annual fiscal burden per household is about 2k US per year for native born residents. And as for foreign aggressors, the number of violent crimes each year committed by illegal immigrants is staggering. Incarceration of illegals in US jails for violent crimes are triple that of native born residents. Still think there is no credible threat? What about my rights?
FizzyBublech 7 months ago
@logorrhea The most violent gangs in america are populated with illegal immigrants. They murder, rape, rob, and sell drugs to survive. Getting back to cost, the total contributions (tax dollars) by illegals equals less than 10% of what it costs to support them hence, another reason why it is important to have strict immigration guidelines. What you call bureaucratic and obstructive I call necessary and smart.
FizzyBublech 7 months ago
@FizzyBublech "the total contributions (tax dollars) by illegals equals less than 10% of what it costs to support them hence" Oh yeah, every study published up to date contradicts this figure of yours by, like, 1000% or more. In fact illegals pay taxes, at times more than any native, and without claiming most services.
As for the illegals being the violent criminals, you are flat wrong about that too, if every study published up to date is right. Most places, illegals are more law-abiding
logorrhea 7 months ago
@logorrhea than natives and legal immigrants, except for the little administrative matter. Anyhow, bureaucratic immigration restriction is getting nowhere. Face reality for once.
logorrhea 7 months ago
@logorrhea You cant discount facts because you dont like them. The STATE OF CALIFORNIA estimates it cost native born taxpayers 10.9bn dollars a year to cover education, healthcare and housing for illegal immigrants. The tax revenue generated (1.7bn dollars) in income tax (from stolen identities) as well as sales and service taxes from them is less than 10% of that cost. This accounts for nearly 1/2 of the states budget deficit.
FizzyBublech 7 months ago
@logorrhea Arizona: Department of Homeland Security 2010 - Undocumented prisoners accounted for 40% of all the prisoners serving time in Arizona state prisons for kidnapping; 24% of those serving time for drug charges; and 13 percent of those serving time for murder. US DOJ- 18th street gang, 80% illegal aliens with total membership of 50k active in 44 cities and 20 states. MS13 with 10k Members up to 90% illegal immigrants.
FizzyBublech 7 months ago
@FizzyBublech I don't either believe a tenth of the figures you pose. Going back to topic: and... like I said at the start, there's no sweeter sound or smell than arrogant bastards hoisted on their own petards. It's a shame the R. Pierce will not be made to pay for all the financial damage... It would be most amusing. And... why should immigrant workers pay all their taxes, if they don't receive full benefit?
logorrhea 7 months ago
@logorrhea If you dont belive them then check them yourself. I gave documented, re searchable, provable facts. I have already proven that it costs more to educate, house, and provide healthcare to illegals than they contribute which means they get benefits they dont pay for and not the other way around. And what financial damage are you referring to? Enforcing laws are not meant to be held at the digression of the public treasury even if that where the case.
FizzyBublech 7 months ago
@FizzyBublech For all the financial damage caused by the bill he sponsored. Billions. I know the score, you can't sue the govt. Hail Goddess Democracy in the 20th. Century, where some idiots get to be majority and the minority picks up the tab. That's why good Constitutions begin by severely defining and limiting government powers, specially what govts. could do with democracy.
logorrhea 7 months ago
@logorrhea Well, its natural that when given the chance, people will vote themselves more services at someone elses expense. With all the class warfare that is instigated by politicians, those on the receiving end feel no empathy towards those they are taking from. With regards to illegal immigration, dont you think its fair that any costs associated with providing services to people from say Mexico, are paid by Mexico?
FizzyBublech 7 months ago
@FizzyBublech It would be reasonable... if the destiny of a person's taxes was their country of citizenship. Or if no taxes were paid by such a person or anyone having the person as a dependent. However, the usual case is that taxes are paid to the country of residence regardless of citizenship. Services are being paid for and services ought to be provided on an equitable basis to the person and their dependents. Else it's a complete scam.
logorrhea 7 months ago
@logorrhea That makes no sense to send tax dollars earned here to another country. The marketplace is "ours" the cost to run it is "ours" and the jobs that generate the tax revenue to support the market are "ours". Having a job and paying taxes does not entitle you to free healthcare, hell I work 50hrs a week, pay taxes, I am 4th generation and I dont get free healthcare. At that point why not just renounce citizenship, continue paying taxes and I wouldn't need to buy health insurance.
FizzyBublech 7 months ago
@FizzyBublech It's only natural and fair to pay taxes in the place you earn income. It's natural and fair that the services paid for by those taxes are provided in the same place. If the government cannot offer services with what it earns, there's a problem, but not with immigration, but with how government is run. Ron Paul said something about getting rid of freebies.to get rid of the people who come seeking freebies.
logorrhea 7 months ago
@logorrhea This depends on how you define "services". The Constitution is very specific with regards to how the federal government conducts itself. Services, in the welfare sense, are strictly un-constitutional. Services, in the nation defense sense, are withing the powers of the federal government. You are right about Ron Paul, but he was making reference to why they come here. He is however for protection our nations borders which he says needs to be address first.
FizzyBublech 7 months ago
By Guest Worker card I assume they mean a "slavery" card.
VonHalford 7 months ago
Over 20 million unemployed Americans & this man can't find 12 new legal workers? The "other side" of less economic output is also LESS RESOURCE CONSUMPTION & ENVIRONMENTAL DESTRUCTION. Something no one wants to talk about. We human beings are resource consumers. The USA is rapidly depleting our land & water supplies due to immigration driven population growth. Developers in my former state went out of business when they ran out of land to build on. Please stop & think. Peace, ALL.
mjcamck71 7 months ago
@mjcamck71
HAHAHA.
That is all.
AstrumSol 7 months ago
@AstrumSol - Hello. I happen to be at the computer. I hope you're an intelligent, rational person interested in facts. I suspect we'll still disagree about US population size & it's ill effects on environmental & social structures. But, maybe you'll look: The Carrying Capacity Network, Negative Population Growth & NumbersUSA. We can & should help our global neighbors create betters lives on their own soil. 2 billion people live on less than $2 a day. How many should we accept here? Peace.
mjcamck71 7 months ago
@mjcamck71 Tear down trade barriers. Allow the Third World to trade with Europe and the U.S.A. and you will see them prosper without ever leaving their own soil. Stop subsidizing agro production in the developed world. Trade not aid. Level the intellectual property field so patent monopolies don't last forever and medicines and technology become cheaper through markets. Of course, much is to be done by people in the Third World. But this can help. Not the answer everybody wanted to hear? Sorry.
logorrhea 7 months ago
@logorrhea - Hello. Don't know about the rest, but I think THESE ARE ALL GOOD ANSWERS. Well thought out & realistic. Best Wishes & Peace to ALL.
mjcamck71 7 months ago
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StLukey7 7 months ago
hahahah, chuck norris is NEVER out of bubblegum >.>
DIRECTVable 8 months ago
Fuck arizona.
kingda117 8 months ago
so first we dont want illegal people, now we do?! i fcking dont
icup728 8 months ago
@icup728 We should just let in the ones that are truly here for work and better education, and leave out the ones with criminal records.
DIRECTVable 8 months ago
@DIRECTVable i agree. America should let in some of the actual immigrants. i do not condone or like anyone sneaking into the USA illegally. it isnt fair to anyone who was already here, if someone just comes in , doesnt pay taxes, they cause trouble and crime, and disrespect OUR culture, then i would gladly deport them. What about you?
icup728 8 months ago
@icup728 I'd do the same, it doesn't matter who does it, if anyone breaks the law they should be persecuted. If they come here to work, get better education, adapt to our culture, follow the law, pay their taxes,and contribute to the community, I don't see why we shouldn't let them stay. But if people are going to come in thinking they can do whatever they want ,thinking they're gonna get some kind of special treatment, then they should definitely leave.
DIRECTVable 8 months ago
@DIRECTVable THANK YOU. someone who agrees with me. you dont know how many times ive tried to explain this to my buddies, and they call me racist because they're Mexican. I DONT KNOW WHY CHUCK NORRIS DOESNT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS! lol
icup728 8 months ago
@icup728 lol sending him to guard the border would solve everything.
DIRECTVable 8 months ago
@DIRECTVable hahaha. hes kicking ass and chewing bubble gum.... but hes all out of bubble gum.
icup728 8 months ago
Tip to anyone go to ARIZONA to get work. If the rest of America is unemployed by 9 percent why not move to this place?
The problem is that illegals exist. If you come to this country, do what people did at the turn of the 20th century. Learn the language. Learn how to be just like an other American. There is no easy answer.
Greenvegan828 8 months ago
Wa ha, I knew this was gonna happen. Fuck arizona stay out let them eat shit. That's what they asked for now they got it. Carefull what you wish for cuss you might end up eating shit too.
eezzeemon 8 months ago
The guy is a liar about losing 5 million. Who loses 5 million before they offer a living wage and only make 3 million?
They want people at super low wages and the woman politician is going to get herself thrown out of her job if she keeps this up.
The answer to labor needs has to be offering more pay not bringing back the poverty inducing wages.
Shinertheantizionist 8 months ago
Give it time Americans will move there to take whatever jobs are avaliable and you can be sure that CNN will not be there to report on it.
IamtheBurceDickenson 8 months ago
Sooner or later AZ will adjust... stay out!!!
Powerball160 8 months ago
Haha That's What These Bitches Get For Being Racist .
sdfwsdfsdgvdfgdfge 8 months ago
This... makes me kind of sick.
Yes. Illegals. Who are taking up the jobs of tax-paying Americans. And contributing to the failing job market.
*facepalm*
ughfup 8 months ago
@ImperialGenKlenner penis
silverdemonz 8 months ago
illegals were meant to work out in the fields. then they crossed to the blue collar jobs and took those jobs at a lower pay scale. the companies raised their prices and hired the cheap labor. many U.S. Citizens suffered because of this injustice. send them all back to the fields. you will see more Americans coming to fill those spots but not at the cheap labor rate.
brokenarrow2222 8 months ago
the only solution for illegal aliens problem is: DEPORT, DEPORT, and DEPORT. Otherwise, you should pay from your pocket for illegals' kids education, emergency room bills, infrastructure use, food stamps, social wellfare programs their kids are on and so on.
Bokismoki77 8 months ago
@Bokismoki77 LOL no. that'll take forever.
silverdemonz 8 months ago
@silverdemonz SELF-Deport
Bokismoki77 8 months ago
@AlexanderDina You're not pro-white Your are anti-white
antonioveraa 8 months ago
@RedArmyPatriot
Panda bears are endangered and they are trying to preserve this unique and precious life form.
If someone came forward and said, we should flood the Pandas' territory with Brown Bears and mix them both, you would say, this person is a criminal.
Demanding all white countries be flooded with millions of people that are not their race, until whites become a minority, calling anyone that objects a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews is GeNOcide.
You want White GeNOcide.
AlexanderDina 8 months ago
@RedArmyPatriot
Being white isn't a good enough excuse for genocide.
Everyone has an excuse for GeNOcide.
You are calling me a Nazi, because I am white. Anti-whites call anyone that opposes White GeNOcide, a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
YOU are the one that wants WHite GeNOcide.
GeNOcide is a crime against humanity.
YOU are the criminal. What drugs are you on Anti-WHite. Pol Pot was a Cambodian. He committed GeNOcide against Cambodians.
AlexanderDina 8 months ago
@AlexanderDina
He is calling you a Nazi because you are one.
not the GeNOcide is a crime against humanity, People like YOU are a crime against humanity
xxmkerror 8 months ago
@xxmkerror
YOU have more in common with the Nazis than you think Anti-White, The only thing you disagree with them on, is the race to be gotten rid of and the method of genocide.
Why do "anti-racists" DEMAND all white countries and only White countries have this immigration?
THEY want White GeNOcide.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
AlexanderDina 8 months ago
@AlexanderDina You are not alone in this disgrace. You are not worthy to call yourself "human".You're worth less than a cockroach.
antonioveraa 8 months ago
"Anti-racists" think we don't understand irony:
If I say I want a Brown Future in ONLY white countries, I am "anti-racist".
If I say I want a White Future in ONLY white countries, they say I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews!
Who do they think they are kidding?
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
THEY want White GeNOcide.
AlexanderDina 8 months ago
@AlexanderDina anti racist is code for anti evil and anti white. Racisme is a code for pure evil.
antonioveraa 8 months ago
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@antonioveraa
You Demand and Justify race replacement for ONLY White Countries.
Now that is the definition of Hate.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
YOU want White GeNOcide.
AlexanderDina 8 months ago
@AlexanderDina i want genocide for destroy the scum like you.
antonioveraa 8 months ago