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  • Eloquent and beautiful = Truth.

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  • wtf dude!!! consiousness is not some magic!!! its all part of your brain! dick head..u have a good vocab knowledge but not science..be practical

  • Hahaah, if you people could read a Chopra book and COMPREHEND it, you would have your life changed and you would unable to  even think of disrespecting him.

  • @PushingLight Chopra is the truth.

  • Anything that "exists" outside of space-time, does not exist, by definition. It is a logical fallacy to state that something exists, outside of existence. The conclusion does not follow logically from the premise of the statement.

  • @007Neutrin0 Your logical fallacy is that only measurable space-time exists... Furthermore what kind of cognitive dissonance allows you to deny your own consciousness? I mean, obviously you are conscious unless your comment was generated by a computer program. Your consciousness is not measurable or objectively perceivable by anyone but yourself.... Therefore WHERE IS your consciousness?

  • @rfrantzt Firstly, by definition something cannot exist outside of existence. Secondly, our conciseness is dependent on physical matter i.e. the brain a biological organ, without the electrochemical reactions taking place in this organ there would be no functionality, and no consciousness. So my consciousnesses is generated electrochemically by my brain i.e thus it is in my brain. Moreover, to argue otherwise then the onus would be on you to prove the claim the burden of proof is on you.

  • @007Neutrin0 I reject all of your assertions.

    1. Space-time is only that part of existence which is measurable by human beings.

    2. The brain is only a conduit of electrochemical signals. The decision to type is made by your consciousness which uses your brain as a tool to control your hand.

    3. I don't feel the need to prove any of this to you because it is inconsequential to me what you believe to be true.

    The proof is out there for you to research on your own. Peace.

  • @rfrantzt rejecting an argument does not disprove it. So simply saying you reject something does not mean you're automatically correct.

    He said outside, space-time, nothing exists outside of space time by definition.

    Point 2, of your post is just gibberish.

    3.) I don't have an agenda to sell, I am not selling anything Deepak is, I don't get paid to sell an idea. The fact that you feel the need to reinforce Deepak's arguments does indirectly at least imply my comments are consequential to u.

  • @007Neutrin0 I never intended to prove anything to you... The fact that you think my second point is "gibberish" lets me know that you really have no knowledge of human anatomy and physiology, especially of neuroscience.

    I have never bought anything from Dr. Chopra, but I certainly am no opposed to supporting him. He is an asset to humanity.

    My "need" to reinforce Deepak's argument is really just an attempt to have a conversation with an anonymous person. Hey man, believe what you wish.

  • Uhh, this guy is a doctor? He seems to know NOTHING about human anatomy or consciousness. Did he seriously say "Trauma from OTHER LIFETIMES????" Why do people take him seriously?!??

  • @FighterDoken

    Probably because his body is telling us that his words are real and as evolved apes some of us have the tendency to believe his words.

  • You cannot find your soul in your body

    because your body is an expression of your soul.

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    Just like being in a virtual world (world of warcraft, minecraft, sims, etc),

    looking for the real world.

    In a VIRTUAL world you will never find the REAL world because the virtual world is an expression of the real world.

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    We are just little AI's stuck in a virtual realm when we are actually the ones who created it. I laugh when people argue that TRON was a meaningless action movie blockbuster.

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  • Deepak Chopra - bullshit expert

  • Good job Mr.Deepak Chopra , verry pure and clear philosophy!

  • It is your heart, the very thing the creator of all things began when he sent us all into this world. The heart is why we are here because our beloved is all here. That is why this man was created to be with his beloved, nothing more.

  • This is b.s. Love and all that is a product of the brain and the chemicals it produces...There was a man who got brain damage and was unable to produce love. Did part of his soul leave his conscious awareness of his being? This idea is comforting but not true in my honest opinion...

  • @utube3215 ur very right,...all this guy has is the dualistic view, which is very wrong. granted, we are all dualistic by nature because that's how we feel. we feel like we are a person who owns this meat sack (our bodies). tho the reality is the other way around, we are our brains.

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  • "how do we know that brain exist?" we have some much evidence that brains exist. we've seen, touched, treated brains. you have one and i have one. if you want more evidence, go to the hospital and have a surgeon cut a little piece of ur brain and then you'll know for sure that u have one lol and if u tryin to bring the idea of mayb this world is just an illusion, i have one word for you, prove it! Also, what makes you think that we might not have brains? i mean we are our brains,

  • @simw7 I don't believe the world IS an illusion. Just asking how do we know for sure if it is not? Couldn't you be a "brain in a vat" (or a similar scenario with no brain)? Electronic signals from a computer simulation are fed to your brain, so losing your mind due to brain injury could be a part of the simulation. Because the simulated life replicates exactly the life you would have lived except the external world is not real. I can't prove, or disprove this. If you can please tell me.

  • u hav to kno that we can't know anything for sure. it could be that we don't even exist. i mean how do I know for sure that everybody around me has a mind? etc...but all these ideas are useless because we have no reason to think that they're true, all of them are just philosophical nonsense. all i'm sayin iz that almost every animal on earth has a brain, which is them, and the brain actually has a map of their whole body inside it. so i don't understand why u'd think that the brain doesn't exist

  • also how do you explain how alcohol, and drugs affecting your way of thinking? they are all chemicals, and we know that chemicals actually effect your neurons, and how they communicate, and we know that they communicate with chemicals in the neurotransmitters.. so if we didn't have brains how do you explain all this? so according to u, alchol have electronic signals too? i don't get it. All evidence point to us having brains, and we are our brains, there havn't been any evidence against that

  • @ignatei The world is not an "illusion", but it is a compilation of stimuli consolidated by the brain and interpreted by the soul/consciousness. The stimuli from a computer to the brain would also be subject to interpretation.

    Either scenario, whether natural or computer simulated, leads to an EXPERIENCE.

    Brain damage, etc, does not lead to loss of the "mind" but to altered stimuli resulting in a different conscious experience.

  • i really like this guy.... i could never "define" soul. i knew what it meant as a mental abstraction but i could never explain it. consequently, every time i had a discussion with somebody about the "soul" we would both have different definitions and we would both be unable to explain it. chopra describes it really well :)

  • consciousness creates space and time?! that's totally unfounded, unjustified and there's no evidence for that....this amounts to no more than a new age cult.

  • @knightm27 Yeah it's real easy to write it off as a new age cult. Who needs new ideas?

  • @JarethGT don't get me wrong my friend, i love new ideas but...a) it's not a new idea. it's been around for centuries...try typing in 'idealism' or reading some of plato's work. b) the idea has subsequently been overturned by the march of our knowledge about the universe and misinterprets several scientifically testable truths. the bottom line is, what chopra is saying is ultimately not true...

  • @knightm27 I've never heard any argument that suggests that consciousness couldn't be fundamental in reality. Seeing as all of our scientific work or anything we've ever experienced, is through the screen of consciousness, its not really something we can "overturn". Does this mean that "spiritual healing" and all that other shit he talks about is true? Not necessarily.

    The only problem with the idea is that it's all a matter of philosophy, theres no way to scientifically test it, yet.

  • @JarethGT i think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. it's not a matter of philosophy. we live in an objective universe. e.g. light has properties whether we observe it or not. space and time exist as objective properties of the universe. best wishes.

  • @knightm27 Cosciousness being fundamental in reality doesn't always have to imply that there is no objective reality.

    It is a HUGE philosophical problem, and it doesn't go away just because there are people like Deepak who exploit it. And if your not even going to acknowledge that the problem is there then talking with you would be useless anyway. If philosophy isn't your thing then it isn't your thing. But don't pretend that you have some sort of objective truth because you dont.

  • @JarethGT ouch! did i challenge a fragile belief system? i'm a scientist and can assure you that light, gravity, space and time are all objective properties of our universe. i can direct you to the relevant articles if i thought you would read them. but you won't as you're stuck in a circular belief system. good bye, good luck and best wishes.

  • @knightm27 You have absolutely know idea what my belief system is. If your a scientist, your among the most arrogant ones I've ever had a brief dialogue with. Anyone who doesn't agree with you is a religious fanatic right?

    Why does objective consciousness somehow mean no objective reality to you? It's like you didn't even read my comment and responded with "ha! I win ubjectiv reality ftw!"

    I'd wish you luck too, but I don't believe in it. Sorry to challenge your fragile belief system. >.>

  • @JarethGT "Anyone who doesn't agree with you is a religious fanatic right". wrong. if you have a new theory, show me the evidence. i'm all ears. shouting and making ad hominem remarks is not constructive.

  • @JarethGT "Since our inner experiences consist of reproductions, and combinations of sensory impressions, the concept of a soul without a body seem to me to be empty and devoid of meaning.

    Albert Einstein"

  • @knightm27 I was shouting? I didn't know I could shout through text. Maybe your just a sensitive and defensive person who imagines that I'm shouting as you read my comments?

    There's a whole world of secular minds with new ideas about extremely interesting mystery that is consciousness and almost none of them agree with your naive materialist viewpoint, sadly I can't be your mentor. You have to get outside the mainstream yourself.

    Very relavent einstein quote by the way. Have a good one.

  • @JarethGT you're a patronising, pompous little person with a superiority complex who prefers to make ad hominem attacks rather than answer my questions or provide evidence when his beliefs are threatened. "sadly I can't be your mentor" (!) you can barely string a sentence together. goodbye.

  • @knightm27 you're pathetic. People like you should be excluded from society. You are reciting pseudo-science like it is reliable, please fuck off.

  • @knightm27 I was commenting on the wrong person, excuse me.

  • The titel of this vid. does not match with the message that is told in it. 

  • The soul of this sucker could learn some english pronunciation. What bunch of crap

  • @uacho try to speak in the mother tongue of this sucker soul and expecting a little bit better than his english pronounciation. It will help us to understand your point.

  • That was a little sarcasm from me. I know Chopra does not contribute to any progressive programmes.

    You give me no reason to believe what you are saying. Your statement that we will never understand consciousness logically reminds me of the ancient Greeks and their rudimentary beliefs of space and time.

    And no, science does not usually consider being asleep as being conscious. Consciousness is considered by science to be analogous to attention, and awareness.

  • @encarta007 Well, it doesn't matter, consciousness is still something that can't be explained and won't be in near future.And when we sleep we are at different level of consciousness.I can remember once when i was very tired i fell asleep and i was quite aware that i did.It was as if my personality has been taken away, like me, but without my personality !I was asleep and still ON somehow, it lasted few minutes or less.

  • @Greatmk

    If you are not conscious when asleep, how do you prevent being awaken to someone pulling on your shoulder?

    You accuse me of creating absolute statements, but you are the one who is saying consciousness will not be explained in the near future. And oh, I don't know, who does this remind me of? Flat-earthers.

  • @encarta007 Yeah, i totally forgot that i am doing that of which i am accusing you.So the thing with consciousness is, we are not fully conscious when we are asleep, but we are aware, there is an awareness.Again i speak about my own personal experience.Some say that this awareness never goes, even when we die.

  • @encarta007 I just want to say that you can't claim anything with certainty as you do.You can't say - consciousness is absolutely in the brain, in that way you are creating a dogma.And we know who uses dogmas to keep people in mental slavery.

  • This all well and good. The main trouble I see with all this is the profound lack of evidence in the most currently available reliable way - scientific method. Just because we string scientific words in ear pleasing and grammatically correct words doesn't make this true or false... Sorry, we don't just talk sweet talks, show the proof

  • Quoting the first words of Deepak here: "The first thing to realize is that your soul is not in your body." Why is this titled as it is?

  • G-d is Spirit, therefore I am Spirit for G-d lives within me. As Jesus said, I will always be with you until the end of time

  • Everything is an apparition in the CONSCIOUSNESS.

  • @DarthKrattus It actually IS!! Listen again till you get it!

  • So all of our thinking is because of this "consciousness", huh? I guess the complicated network of neurons in our brains is worthless.

  • @DarthKrattus Its just a tool. The brain is the tool, the driver is consciousness.

  • @porche12312 Actually, no, it's not. We have sensory neurons that pick up information that convey them to chambers of the brain that instigate responses.

  • @DarthKrattus Just like the piano has keys and hammers and chords. The song isn't in the piano.

  • You can't really use an analogy for something like this.

  • @DarthKrattus My understanding is that it would be, according to this theory, roughly the mechanism by which consciousnes interfaces with physicality. And yes, all of our thinking is consciousness, by definition.

  • @DarthKrattus your neurons are the tools for your intentions, your decisions, your humanity to manifest themselves. They are only pathways for transfering information. They alone cannot feel love, enjoy art or to sorrow.

  • @DarthKrattus They are tools for your soul to function in physical world. you have the same type of neurons than a criminal has. But, THE DECISION the criminal make, is different from yours. because he has a different personality! of course our neurons get affected by our actions ( you are a sympathetic person, so your frontal lobe gets more activated!) who does activate your neurons on your frontal lobe?! of course your consciousness!

  • @DarthKrattus No man, it's not like that. Thoughts are thoughts because of neruons, the awareness of the thought is the consciousness. The fact that this universe has an experiencer, an observer to it, that is consciousness. Consciousness has no more to do with thought than it does to do with which way the wind is blowing.

  • @DarthKrattus - Your brain is very important, however you consciousness is what experiences your thoughts. Consciousness is what experiences everything. Consciousness knows without thought, it does not need to think, it's higher that thought, it just knows.

  • Very interesting vid : ) thanks

  • You can feel when someone speeks from heart. so thank you for posting this

  • what an idiot.

  • Outside space-time, huh? How then can one, who lives in the space-time, detect something that's outside of it?

  • @encarta007

    Space-Time is in consciousness!

  • @MiSha400

    Stating unfalsifiable responses doesn't help Chopra's case.

    And that's not what he said, either. Even if he says that somewhere else, it doesn't help (again) to provide statements that are unsubstantiated by evidence.

  • @encarta007 only if you dogmatically require every phenomenon in the universe to be observable. Consciousness just isn't observable outwardly.

  • @LambChowder1

    Dogmatic to require observable evidence? I think not, in 99.99% of cases. But assuming your case to be in the .01% there is no reason to think, let alone evidence, that "conscience is not observed outwardly". I claim that consciousness exists only in the brain, and there is evidence to this.

    Change in brain chemistry and physiology in mental patients. Period.

  • @encarta007 "I claim that consciousness exists only in the brain, and there is evidence to this." You can't claim anything since consciousness is a foreign topic in science.It cannot be even approached.With quantum mechanics maybe... we have yet to see.Well you can claim anything, but it will remain an opinion.

  • @Greatmk

    Consciousness is a foreign topic to science? So what have we been using to study it until now? Religion? Deepak Chopra's books? Please.

    Quantum Mechanics may be used to study it, but nothing like Chopra claims it. I have supplied you with reasonable evidence to doubt that consciousness exists anywhere outside the brain. Remember Phineas Gage, the 19th Century railway worker who had an iron pole pierce through his skull? His personality and thinking mode changed drastically afterwards.

  • @encarta007 We have been using nothing.How can Chopra study it, he is not even a scientist.Thinking and personality are the brain.But even when our brain is sleeping we are conscious, not awake, but at different level of consciousness.

    Even the statement that our brain and body are in our consciousness is just an opinion - different than reality and my -belief- is that we will never come close to understanding it logically.Roger Penrose's work is interesting but controversial.

  • Let me be the first to comment and to say thanks for the video upload and wealth of knowledge from Deepak Chopra - wise man.

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