@lolerbabop Crf450r dry weight = 228 pounds. Cr500 dry weight, 238 pounds. Crf450r makes around 50-52 horsepower stock. The CR500 makes about 55 stock. Take handling into account and the 450 completely destroys the old 2 stroker. 500's are cool for bragging rights and everything, but I'd much rather ride a CR250 or Crf450.
@lolerbabop Oh yeah its ancient technology. I've seen some pretty sick CR500 AF's and I would totally own one of those. But when it comes to racing, four strokes are just a better technology.
@lolerbabop Yes and Yes unfortunately. I love 2 strokes just as much as the next guy, but If you want to be competitive in the racing scene, you need to ride a 4 stroke. That's just the facts man.
I have a 11 CRF450r and race desert. Great bike I would like to ride the 12 with the suspension changes. I was happy with the stock suspension on the 11. Anyone here ride the 12? What was your impression?
And also to the 2-stroke people - if you can't afford to buy and maintain a real race bike - stay home. Stop blaming motorcycle companies for being broke. You're broke because you don't work hard enough. lol
You 2-stroke turds are crazy. There is no 2 stroke 250 that can beat a 4-stroke 450, riders being equal. That's why NO ONE is riding them in the pros. If they could compete on a cheaper, lighter bike - they would.
@vnormdavies you obviously do not know what your talking about. Its 20% Bike 80% Rider. and NO a crf450 wont "blow away" a cr250r in "top speed, trails, or on a track"
I wonder what would happen if they used something like thrust vectoring on the F-22 Raptors engine and had a 3 dimensional swing-arm movement instead of the 2D. Hmmm...engineering at it's best?
@12sem12 hahahahahaha ktm is the worst bike to ever exist and will never make it in american sx or mx. Hmmmmmmm............shit out a kawi? eat hondas??? i dont think so buddy....both honda and kawasaki have one sx and mx in the past...KTM..NEVER ONE SHIT, so go suck some dick you little faggot.
@KTMisFORfaggots pretty sure pingree won a title back in the early 2000's on a KTM. Its a matter of time until they are sucsessful here, after all they are unstopable in Europe. Your just gay..ignorant..closeminded...gay..ignorant..ext..ext..
@DillaDirtMouth im none of those thing....i just hate KTM cuz its a shit bike trying to take over by bribing good riders to join them with monney. Fact is they are just shit..notjing more to it buddy.
So new tyres which will get changed by rider anyway , Changes to suspension whcih will get changed by rider anyway and some bigger footpegs which could be bought cheap online ... May as well stay with an '11 and make the small changes yourself ( and maybe add some power with the money you saved)
@awsome3451 Honestly, get whichever has the best deal. Both are great bikes, they are so close in performance that buying one over the other is not going to make you much faster. Plus speed is going to come down to which bike suits you more...
@11alpinestars not a dent. They come with that from factory. Yes it looks like a dent but it isn't. It is for when the suspension is bottomed out, the muffler doesn't bang the rear brake.
i dont see why manufacturer's worry so much about tires and suspension. any racer is ripping both off, getting better tires, and suspension set up for them,
@ktmmxer131 I Think they're trying to cater more to the types of people that are going to leave the bikes mostly stock and ride it the way it is. The mx51's are more than sufficient for any terrain, but like you stated, anyone knows that someone who is serious about riding is having the suspension revalved and resprung for them anyway.
@ktmmxer131 besides guy like me who still race but dont have the money for aftermarket suspensions because i pay for my bike, gas, diesel, and truck payments
@ktmmxer131 bro the tire this bike come with are what the pros us dunlop mx51 and most 250 riders are betwween 150 to 185 to they get the suspension close to right around that area. ur dumb and getting more suspension work to get it set up perfect is like 2500. i have had it done and yes it helps but most people dont have all that extra cash so thats why the factory spends so much time on that area
@ktmmxer131 lol cause some people, like my self, barley have enough to buy the bike, let alone after market suspension and diffrent tires, so they try to give us folk the best set up then can from the factory.
@ktmmxer131 as a racer i agree but dont be so naieve, the majority of people buying a bike are riding for fun and dont really care to spend the money. And thanks for switching sides from KTM, we knew you would see the light.
@ktmmxer131 Most people who go out and uby a 450r aren't going to get it solely for racing. If that's what is was for, they'd have a chassis with very few parts, with most spaces open for any part you desire.
@ktmmxer131 and stock tyres arent going to last the whole life of the bike it doesnt make sense to me why they say what tyres comes stock we donttt care
kinda weird how they had chad reed out there and not try canard. seeing as how one is the Honda Factory rider and the other is a private team owner...
@CRmxer85 not true. he does not get full factory support. actually i believe jason weigant even said that at the beginning of the season? but trey canard and josh grant are the only one's who get FULL factory honda support. For example, they get forks from showa that reed can't get. that's why reed's engine is done by pro circuit as is his suspension. if he had full honda factory support he would have their stuff.
@fox13z400 hey bro they have a 2007 yz 250f at my dealer with a RACE RADIATOR, FULL FMF SYSTEM, FACTORY CONNECTION SUSPENSION FRONT AND REAR, RENTHAL SPROCKETS AND CHAIN,PROTAPER BARS, is that good for 3,399 im trying to get a bike soon ?????????????? my first motorcross bike if i get one
@RAHMX145 hey bro they have a 2007 yz 250f at my dealer with a RACE RADIATOR, FULL FMF SYSTEM, FACTORY CONNECTION SUSPENSION FRONT AND REAR, RENTHAL SPROCKETS AND CHAIN,PROTAPER BARS, is that good for 3,399 im trying to get a bike soon ?????????????? my first motorcross bike if i get one
Went to the honda shop earlier today, I think what I saw was a 2012, but if im wrong it was a 11, anyways, the bike seemed so much more nimble than my 08 250 just from the looks, I really want to try one out someday.
@Ryd3r22 hey bro they have a 2007 yz 250f at my dealer with a RACE RADIATOR, FULL FMF SYSTEM, FACTORY CONNECTION SUSPENSION FRONT AND REAR, RENTHAL SPROCKETS AND CHAIN,PROTAPER BARS, is that good for 3,399 im trying to get a bike soon ?????????????? my first motorcross bike if i get one
HONDA:
Hop
On
N'
Dick
Around!
BlondBoy321 1 day ago
Honda!!
NITROFINK22 2 weeks ago
HAH!! "Big bore"? A cr500 would kill that heavy piece of shit.
lolerbabop 3 weeks ago
@lolerbabop Crf450r dry weight = 228 pounds. Cr500 dry weight, 238 pounds. Crf450r makes around 50-52 horsepower stock. The CR500 makes about 55 stock. Take handling into account and the 450 completely destroys the old 2 stroker. 500's are cool for bragging rights and everything, but I'd much rather ride a CR250 or Crf450.
yfzrider13 2 days ago
@yfzrider13 The 2012 crf450r actually weighs in at 231. And im pretty sure the cr500 would be less if you updated its info this century.
lolerbabop 2 days ago
@lolerbabop Oh yeah its ancient technology. I've seen some pretty sick CR500 AF's and I would totally own one of those. But when it comes to racing, four strokes are just a better technology.
yfzrider13 1 day ago
@yfzrider13 lol NO No and NO. 2 strokes are not ancient technology and 4 strokes arent better.
lolerbabop 1 day ago
@lolerbabop Yes and Yes unfortunately. I love 2 strokes just as much as the next guy, but If you want to be competitive in the racing scene, you need to ride a 4 stroke. That's just the facts man.
yfzrider13 11 hours ago
@yfzrider13 Hah. You should look over your facts.
lolerbabop 2 hours ago
I have a 11 CRF450r and race desert. Great bike I would like to ride the 12 with the suspension changes. I was happy with the stock suspension on the 11. Anyone here ride the 12? What was your impression?
mrgreeneyes51 3 weeks ago
this is odd but i like how the hondas made the number plate blend with the bend fender. makes it look slick!
scmproductions144 1 month ago 2
@scmproductions144 totally agree with ya bro
ajewlikesmoney 3 weeks ago
4 strokes are like tampons every pussy needs one
TwirrlyTasZ 1 month ago
@TwirrlyTasZ yur just mad cuz any 450 will beat a 2 stroke ;)
ajewlikesmoney 3 weeks ago
And also to the 2-stroke people - if you can't afford to buy and maintain a real race bike - stay home. Stop blaming motorcycle companies for being broke. You're broke because you don't work hard enough. lol
tpowell453 2 months ago 4
@tpowell453 I ride a 2 stroke..,Its called a ktm thats enough money to spend on the maintence probs more than what you do,,
illyrianalbanian100 1 month ago
You 2-stroke turds are crazy. There is no 2 stroke 250 that can beat a 4-stroke 450, riders being equal. That's why NO ONE is riding them in the pros. If they could compete on a cheaper, lighter bike - they would.
tpowell453 2 months ago 5
@tpowell453 DREAMER..
illyrianalbanian100 1 month ago
:40 that piece of dirt cleared that jump
YFZ450Kid09 2 months ago 2
HONDA CRF450R how to buy sir?
lyza123ful 2 months ago
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lyza123ful 2 months ago
honda does make two stokes
MegaXXRAPTORXx 2 months ago
@MegaXXRAPTORXx not this year
connorwhitted 2 months ago
HONDA ALL THE WAY
Threesixty12 2 months ago
get a yamaha bro
birdystyle420 2 months ago
"go pick one up" because they don't cost much..
168TomP 2 months ago 3
I used to ride Kawasaki, then I took an arrow in the knee.
imrpowers 3 months ago
ya buddy!!!!!1
NITROFINK22 3 months ago
yamaha or bust
kontaktseistrup 3 months ago
I have a 2002 cr250r that could blow this bike away, but damn i still wouldnt mind having this beautiful machine
MegaSchwag 3 months ago
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vnormdavies 3 months ago
@vnormdavies iam srry but no it wont
kxbeast 3 months ago
@vnormdavies you obviously do not know what your talking about. Its 20% Bike 80% Rider. and NO a crf450 wont "blow away" a cr250r in "top speed, trails, or on a track"
JuniorPros118 2 months ago
honda is deffinatly the best looking bike
dh4life100 3 months ago
I wish I could ride half as good as these guys...amazing. MCGrath, Reed...and many others are legends.
FyreFox94 3 months ago
looks nice, but i think ill just stay with my 2008 450R there like a rocket of some cartoon show,
GOINGTOHARD 4 months ago
awesome bike
MAljr100 4 months ago
awww 2 jelios yamaha owners
crzymonkey1000 4 months ago
love it XD
wandres121 4 months ago
i swear ive watched this video atleast 50 times
thewistleboy 4 months ago 3
Name this song ???????????
LeonardoPawao19 4 months ago 30
@LeonardoPawao19 i tried using soundhound but because there is no lyrics, i couldn't find anything
deluca286 4 months ago
I wonder what would happen if they used something like thrust vectoring on the F-22 Raptors engine and had a 3 dimensional swing-arm movement instead of the 2D. Hmmm...engineering at it's best?
FMXPRO199 5 months ago
new smaller chain roller. lol. good job boyz.
NESCrider227y 5 months ago
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im 12 years old ,Jewish and have brown hair. Is this a good bike for me?
thewistleboy 5 months ago
HONDA , Y U NO MAKE 2 STROKE??
0wner69 5 months ago 50
@0wner69 cos they burn too much fuel and apparantly the earth cant handle it
honestnestanderson 4 months ago
@0wner69 they make more money by only supplying 4 strokes
88yougurt88 3 months ago
@0wner69 they do? cr 250 cr 125 cr 85
kingofbass63 2 weeks ago
@kingofbass63 yyeah , like 6 years ago... im talking about new 250 and 125 2 strokes...
4 strokes are really expensive for maintenance...
0wner69 2 weeks ago
@0wner69 o ok i got ya...yea they are lol
kingofbass63 2 weeks ago
@0wner69 check out honda cr125 2012 hon google images :)
thewistleboy 2 weeks ago
my dream´s bike!!! I love it!!
fermcmetz 5 months ago
@fermcmetz same dude.. i would do anything to have this bike
thewistleboy 5 months ago
song??????????
thewistleboy 5 months ago
@12sem12 yea while being lapped by crf 450 hehe
ninjasaurusrex123 5 months ago
HONDA....simple!!!
HONDASINNOVAS 5 months ago
is Chad Reed going to ride the American Honda(official team) in 2012 or again in two two motors sport ?
Spanky974 5 months ago
@Spanky974 considering he has his own team......
irockoutlouder1 5 months ago
ktm will eat your hondas and shit out a kawi
12sem12 5 months ago
@12sem12 hahahahahaha ktm is the worst bike to ever exist and will never make it in american sx or mx. Hmmmmmmm............shit out a kawi? eat hondas??? i dont think so buddy....both honda and kawasaki have one sx and mx in the past...KTM..NEVER ONE SHIT, so go suck some dick you little faggot.
KTMisFORfaggots 5 months ago
@KTMisFORfaggots pretty sure pingree won a title back in the early 2000's on a KTM. Its a matter of time until they are sucsessful here, after all they are unstopable in Europe. Your just gay..ignorant..closeminded...gay..ignorant..ext..ext..
DillaDirtMouth 5 months ago
@DillaDirtMouth im none of those thing....i just hate KTM cuz its a shit bike trying to take over by bribing good riders to join them with monney. Fact is they are just shit..notjing more to it buddy.
KTMisFORfaggots 5 months ago
@12sem12 good try... but NOT FUNNY
hondaspeed152 2 months ago
in other words........this is the exact same bike as the 2011
ti4rmz 6 months ago
@mxlife94 my dick's too damn bulky
FuckPeople91 6 months ago
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mxracing6 6 months ago
@mxracing6 101? No Reed's number is 22.
yomac119 6 months ago
Crf 450's look to damn bulky
FuckPeople91 6 months ago
Nice
TeamHMhonda 6 months ago
they could put a o-ring chain on instead of the shitty stock ones
06summit 6 months ago
damn i just bought an 11
chrisrider28 6 months ago
@chrisrider28 they practically havent changed anything that matters
bigkazuma 6 months ago
As Ricky Bobby said, "Hi I'm Ricky Bobby and if you don't ride Big Red, then fuck you!"........I think lol
09crf250dreamz 7 months ago
So new tyres which will get changed by rider anyway , Changes to suspension whcih will get changed by rider anyway and some bigger footpegs which could be bought cheap online ... May as well stay with an '11 and make the small changes yourself ( and maybe add some power with the money you saved)
BIGGESTxxEMINEMxxFAN 7 months ago
@BIGGESTxxEMINEMxxFAN you make an excelent point.
dbracr27 6 months ago
Yes, the plot of land at 0.39 has better style than Vuillemin...
BernalCross 7 months ago
no many reasons to buy one, better keep the old year and do those little changes yourself, will cost nothing
andresarango22 7 months ago
Nothing like beating double your cc's on a 125
TheKawi125rider 7 months ago
Is the honda better than the kawi? i want to buy a 450 but cant decide on which one to get, does any body know which one is best over all?
awsome3451 7 months ago
@awsome3451 Honestly, get whichever has the best deal. Both are great bikes, they are so close in performance that buying one over the other is not going to make you much faster. Plus speed is going to come down to which bike suits you more...
jumpinstocktoyotas 7 months ago
great bike
CLEGG110 7 months ago
Let's see the 250!
Kawasaki1788 7 months ago 4
i love the dent in the muffler at :51
11alpinestars 7 months ago
@11alpinestars not a dent. They come with that from factory. Yes it looks like a dent but it isn't. It is for when the suspension is bottomed out, the muffler doesn't bang the rear brake.
64AdamSeifert 7 months ago
@11alpinestars Its contoured to clearance the rear brake. Thats not a dent.
superdave308 7 months ago
Hopefully it dosnt suck this year
TeoZMuff313 7 months ago
Best bike review on YouTube
spencer150r 7 months ago
Would be awesome if it came in blue and was made by Yamaha.
Dredger119 7 months ago 2
i dont see why manufacturer's worry so much about tires and suspension. any racer is ripping both off, getting better tires, and suspension set up for them,
ktmmxer131 7 months ago 48
@ktmmxer131 I Think they're trying to cater more to the types of people that are going to leave the bikes mostly stock and ride it the way it is. The mx51's are more than sufficient for any terrain, but like you stated, anyone knows that someone who is serious about riding is having the suspension revalved and resprung for them anyway.
2strokerider 7 months ago
@ktmmxer131 because the bikes off the market are made for consumers.
Cisco606 7 months ago
@ktmmxer131 most people that buy the bike wont cange either, untill the tires wear out ofcourse
FreeSkier155 7 months ago
@ktmmxer131 For the people that dont race
800canamrider 7 months ago
@800canamrider
then why are you getting a RACE bike in the 1st place? lol you would be better off with an X or a WR
RedBullBurger25 7 months ago
@RedBullBurger25 I dont race and I always buy race bike... I dont like a bike with no power
800canamrider 7 months ago
@800canamrider
then get a ktm300. Best stock suspension out there. and it has all the power you want
RedBullBurger25 6 months ago
@ktmmxer131 probably to try and save some $ for not so serious racers, or 450 beginners
DylanLTZ250 7 months ago
@ktmmxer131 its for the people who just rde to have fun and don't wanna have to get better tires and suspention.
JsDs1020 6 months ago
@ktmmxer131 besides guy like me who still race but dont have the money for aftermarket suspensions because i pay for my bike, gas, diesel, and truck payments
rider412719 6 months ago
@ktmmxer131 its for the racers that cant afford to get 2500 dollar factory connection suspention and still want something halfway decent
m0t0cr0ss17 6 months ago
@ktmmxer131 bro the tire this bike come with are what the pros us dunlop mx51 and most 250 riders are betwween 150 to 185 to they get the suspension close to right around that area. ur dumb and getting more suspension work to get it set up perfect is like 2500. i have had it done and yes it helps but most people dont have all that extra cash so thats why the factory spends so much time on that area
force52xxxx 6 months ago
@ktmmxer131 lol cause some people, like my self, barley have enough to buy the bike, let alone after market suspension and diffrent tires, so they try to give us folk the best set up then can from the factory.
ReturnOfJorddo 6 months ago 2
@ktmmxer131 as a racer i agree but dont be so naieve, the majority of people buying a bike are riding for fun and dont really care to spend the money. And thanks for switching sides from KTM, we knew you would see the light.
harmon151 6 months ago
@ktmmxer131 Most people who go out and uby a 450r aren't going to get it solely for racing. If that's what is was for, they'd have a chassis with very few parts, with most spaces open for any part you desire.
StormHornet56 6 months ago
@ktmmxer131 because most of the people riding them are goons and there like ooooohhhh oh shit they have mx51s!
rylasuddberg23 5 months ago
@ktmmxer131 and goons dont change suspension
rylasuddberg23 5 months ago
@ktmmxer131 better ratings. and people who want a good bike without having to buy after market suspension.
crf150rider705 5 months ago
@ktmmxer131 and stock tyres arent going to last the whole life of the bike it doesnt make sense to me why they say what tyres comes stock we donttt care
meda789 5 months ago
kinda weird how they had chad reed out there and not try canard. seeing as how one is the Honda Factory rider and the other is a private team owner...
fox13z400 7 months ago
@fox13z400 canard rebroke his leg a few weeks ago
kallan02 7 months ago
@kallan02 i remember that crash and they said he might have rebroken it but i never knew for sure, well thx for filling me in.
fox13z400 7 months ago
@fox13z400 yes but chad reed owns his team but he gets full factory support from honda
CRmxer85 7 months ago
@CRmxer85 not true. he does not get full factory support. actually i believe jason weigant even said that at the beginning of the season? but trey canard and josh grant are the only one's who get FULL factory honda support. For example, they get forks from showa that reed can't get. that's why reed's engine is done by pro circuit as is his suspension. if he had full honda factory support he would have their stuff.
fox13z400 7 months ago
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@fox13z400 hey bro they have a 2007 yz 250f at my dealer with a RACE RADIATOR, FULL FMF SYSTEM, FACTORY CONNECTION SUSPENSION FRONT AND REAR, RENTHAL SPROCKETS AND CHAIN,PROTAPER BARS, is that good for 3,399 im trying to get a bike soon ?????????????? my first motorcross bike if i get one
CLUMZYLB 7 months ago
Didn't talk about any motor work buy ohwell they sure did "change a lot" hahah wow new pegs and fork springs
caseyclifford 7 months ago
lol basically all they did was put on a lowering link and put in stiffer fork springs. Those bikes still need work.
RAHMX145 7 months ago
@RAHMX145 hey bro they have a 2007 yz 250f at my dealer with a RACE RADIATOR, FULL FMF SYSTEM, FACTORY CONNECTION SUSPENSION FRONT AND REAR, RENTHAL SPROCKETS AND CHAIN,PROTAPER BARS, is that good for 3,399 im trying to get a bike soon ?????????????? my first motorcross bike if i get one
CLUMZYLB 7 months ago
@CLUMZYLB sounds like a good deal to me
2001yz250rider1 7 months ago
B-E-A-UTIFUL!
motomaniax000 7 months ago
ride red all the way
Rider241Mx 7 months ago
Hunk of scrap.
Liberalsuck100 7 months ago
@Liberalsuck100 gtfo you troll
FMXndMXismylife 7 months ago
this bike looks awesomee..i cant wait to see it on the track in supercross
shagwell62694videos 7 months ago
Went to the honda shop earlier today, I think what I saw was a 2012, but if im wrong it was a 11, anyways, the bike seemed so much more nimble than my 08 250 just from the looks, I really want to try one out someday.
KRice37 7 months ago
@KRice37 08 250 still a great bike
Ryd3r22 7 months ago
@Ryd3r22 Yea I absolutely love my 250; I just love what honda has done to their bikes lately.
KRice37 7 months ago
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@Ryd3r22 hey bro they have a 2007 yz 250f at my dealer with a RACE RADIATOR, FULL FMF SYSTEM, FACTORY CONNECTION SUSPENSION FRONT AND REAR, RENTHAL SPROCKETS AND CHAIN,PROTAPER BARS, is that good for 3,399 im trying to get a bike soon ?????????????? my first motorcross bike if i get one
CLUMZYLB 7 months ago
Superr Sickk!
TheRedBull46s2Chnl 7 months ago
i needd new shorts
suzukibeast5 7 months ago
FIRSTTTTT
TheMX196 7 months ago
@TheMX196 first to comment, last to get laid
DB9Productions100 7 months ago 36
@DB9Productions100 hahaha omg omg omg so funny you so funny. that guy is never gonna get fucked!
stone4451 7 months ago
@DB9Productions100 lol
TheLZproductions 5 months ago