She was once a beautiful girl with a gorgeous body but, unfortunately, no common sense at all. She was a nut. And she went after the only guy she couldn't get - a Mormon missionary. I think it was a challenge for her, though one with comic/tragic consequences.
Egomaniac, out of control, selfish and deceitful. That's Joyce,the kidnapping insane rapist-she should of done much more time or at least get some help for goodness sake!
UNFORTUNATELY i HAD AN ILLNESS AND SAW THIS ON TV . I THOUGHT THAT SHE WAS NUTS UNTIL SHE LOOKED INTO THE CAMERA AND BEGAN TO BARK! THEN, I WAS SURE. THIS IS ALL FOR HER, LIMELIGHT, THE MONEY AND I'D NEVER HEARD OF HER OR THIS CASE. IT'S TO MY ADVANTAGE BUT IF IT WAS SO BAD AND HER I.Q. IS SO HIGH WHY IS SHE STANDING ON THE STAGE?
i saw this case discussed in a national lampoon magazine as a cartoon once @__@ at the end, one of the pre-teen girls presenting the stories said, "You know, some guys are SO shy!"
This little performance of McKinney's only reinforces the impression I got from Morris' brilliant movie--that she's a hopeless narcissist who's succeeded in fooling even herself about herself.
,If Joyce were a man and did the same things she did to Kurt to a woman - would your opinion still be the same? Would the crimes of kidnapping and rape still be amusing rather horrific? Also, the LDS Church is not a cult (yes I am a member).
@sublimelytwisted I'm a member, the church is a cult, don't take that the wrong way but many sects of christianity are cults by definitions. It wasn't always a negative word. Just because a person says cult doesn't mean you're drinking koolaid and slitting throats
I'm not saying she didn't do it but there are women who come up with elaborate stories because they feel guilty giving into sex. It wouldn't surprise me if a sexually repressed mormon gave in and felt guilty and came up with the story.
@dredsdomain I think you are probably right. Fortunately for him, the woman he gave in to also happens to have a screw loose. If she weren't so unreliable, I think people would be laughing at his story.
@sublimelytwisted this was many years before viagra was created. there's a big difference between a large man raping a small woman and the other way around. let's not be silly here and pretend they're the same thing.
This woman is cuckoo-for-coconuts. She was a willing participant in this film -- most of it is her talking head-style -- and she is still complaining about her story.
It was a hoot of a documentary, but I walked away thinking it was a waste of $ and my 2 hours.
Have you ever met a good lookin blonde at a local dance hall, have her offer you a ride home in her Vette, & while you're sitting in her car talking in your driveway it suddenly occurs to you, "This girl is nuts and has some serious emotional problems"? It was about 1975, it was my driveway and it was Joyce & me in her Vette. I know Kirk. I know a missionary who was in the same mission. I know others over whom she obessessed. I would believe Kirk long before I would trust Joyce in this matter.
I don't think this poor lady deserved to have her life ruined or to have been vilified. She was crazy in love with someone & got a little carried away.
What a little dweeb her intended must have been to have gotten the police involved.
@thrummer1953 She kidnapped her boyfriend, locked him up, and repeatedly raped him. I'd say that's a little more than getting "a little carried away." And she's obviously crazy and full of her self.
she's definitely kooky, but come on. i really don't believe she was capable of having sex with this guy completely against his will.
nogoodbastid 3 weeks ago
She was once a beautiful girl with a gorgeous body but, unfortunately, no common sense at all. She was a nut. And she went after the only guy she couldn't get - a Mormon missionary. I think it was a challenge for her, though one with comic/tragic consequences.
anitalittle2002 1 month ago
Egomaniac, out of control, selfish and deceitful. That's Joyce,the kidnapping insane rapist-she should of done much more time or at least get some help for goodness sake!
lulumariemissypu 1 month ago
UNFORTUNATELY i HAD AN ILLNESS AND SAW THIS ON TV . I THOUGHT THAT SHE WAS NUTS UNTIL SHE LOOKED INTO THE CAMERA AND BEGAN TO BARK! THEN, I WAS SURE. THIS IS ALL FOR HER, LIMELIGHT, THE MONEY AND I'D NEVER HEARD OF HER OR THIS CASE. IT'S TO MY ADVANTAGE BUT IF IT WAS SO BAD AND HER I.Q. IS SO HIGH WHY IS SHE STANDING ON THE STAGE?
Otisxsnotbset 1 month ago
i saw this case discussed in a national lampoon magazine as a cartoon once @__@ at the end, one of the pre-teen girls presenting the stories said, "You know, some guys are SO shy!"
aachelabelaaron 3 months ago
I remember the case well even though I was only 12 at the time. How time flies!
mikeatcora 3 months ago
11:52 - check out Errol's face after the maniacal laughter
avarioussire 3 months ago
This little performance of McKinney's only reinforces the impression I got from Morris' brilliant movie--that she's a hopeless narcissist who's succeeded in fooling even herself about herself.
minkwilliesez 3 months ago
; She is mentally ill, and she is a stalker, and a predator, if she were a man would she be dismissed, and giggled at?
12Zwolf 6 months ago 3
I believe her.
Google Mormon.
michigananon 6 months ago
Um.... question?
WhiplashFilm 7 months ago
,If Joyce were a man and did the same things she did to Kurt to a woman - would your opinion still be the same? Would the crimes of kidnapping and rape still be amusing rather horrific? Also, the LDS Church is not a cult (yes I am a member).
sublimelytwisted 7 months ago
@sublimelytwisted I'm a member, the church is a cult, don't take that the wrong way but many sects of christianity are cults by definitions. It wasn't always a negative word. Just because a person says cult doesn't mean you're drinking koolaid and slitting throats
I'm not saying she didn't do it but there are women who come up with elaborate stories because they feel guilty giving into sex. It wouldn't surprise me if a sexually repressed mormon gave in and felt guilty and came up with the story.
dredsdomain 7 months ago 2
@dredsdomain I think you are probably right. Fortunately for him, the woman he gave in to also happens to have a screw loose. If she weren't so unreliable, I think people would be laughing at his story.
DejectedPanda 3 months ago
@sublimelytwisted this was many years before viagra was created. there's a big difference between a large man raping a small woman and the other way around. let's not be silly here and pretend they're the same thing.
nogoodbastid 3 weeks ago
This woman is cuckoo-for-coconuts. She was a willing participant in this film -- most of it is her talking head-style -- and she is still complaining about her story.
It was a hoot of a documentary, but I walked away thinking it was a waste of $ and my 2 hours.
GlobalIconoclast 7 months ago
Have you ever met a good lookin blonde at a local dance hall, have her offer you a ride home in her Vette, & while you're sitting in her car talking in your driveway it suddenly occurs to you, "This girl is nuts and has some serious emotional problems"? It was about 1975, it was my driveway and it was Joyce & me in her Vette. I know Kirk. I know a missionary who was in the same mission. I know others over whom she obessessed. I would believe Kirk long before I would trust Joyce in this matter.
batterdown 7 months ago 8
@cozymonk,
We all go a little crazy sometimes.
Have a little compassion.
thrummer1953 7 months ago
@thrummer1953
we all go crazy -- really enough to kidnap someone? omg. be real.
harrogatetoffeetin 6 months ago
I don't think this poor lady deserved to have her life ruined or to have been vilified. She was crazy in love with someone & got a little carried away.
What a little dweeb her intended must have been to have gotten the police involved.
thrummer1953 7 months ago
@thrummer1953 She kidnapped her boyfriend, locked him up, and repeatedly raped him. I'd say that's a little more than getting "a little carried away." And she's obviously crazy and full of her self.
cozymonk 7 months ago 7
Joyce, ... do you remember ... me?
aman4alady1 7 months ago
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Where can I see this film? Is there going to be a dvd release?
jedf666 8 months ago